Ang mas malaking kasalanan

Tuwang-tuwa ang Malacañang sa nilabas ng ABS-CBN na video tape kung saan nakikita si Brig. Gen. Danny Lim na nagwi-withdraw ng support sa pamahalaan ni Gloria Arroyo.

Ito ay kuha daw ng Feb. 23, 2006 at dapat ngang ipinalabas kung natuloy ang pag-martsa ng mga sundalo palabas sa kanilang kampo kasalubong ng mga sibilyan na mga lider sa Edsa.

Sabi ni Justice Secretary Raul Gonzales ito raw ang smoking gun na ebidensya na magdidiin kina Lim. Sabi naman ni Presidential chief of staff Mike Defensor ang video raw ay nagpapatunay na tama ang ginawa ni Arroyo na magdeklara ng Proclamation 1017, manghuli ng mga kritiko at magbusal ng media.

Sa tape sinabi ni Lim, “The entire system has broken down – thanks to a President whose legitimacy has been denied by the vast majority of our people. (Ang buong sistema natin ay bumagsak. Salamat sa isang presidente na hindi kinikilala ng karamihan ang kanyang pagka-presidente.)”

“In her mad desire for power, she has corrupted and destroyed all institutions, she has promoted a policy of loot and plunder while hypocritically announcing a war on corruption. (Sa kanyang pagkagahaman sa kapangyarihan, sinira ang lahat na institusyon, at pinairal niya ang ang pangungurakot samantalang ipinagyayabang ang laban raw sa corruption.)”

Ano ang mali sa sinabi ni Lim? Sa lahat na survey, naniniwala ang mas maraming Pilipino na nandaya si Arroyo noong 2004 elections. Sa imbestigasyon ng Senado lumabas kung paano ginamit ni Arroyo ang bilyun-bilyon na pera ng taumbayan para sa election. Kung ginamit man lahat yun sa pambibili ng boto, hindi natin alam. Ang nakita lang ay kung paano nawala ang pera na sana ay para sa kabutihan ng mahihirap.

Sa video, tinatawagan ni Lim si Arroyo na tanggapin ang bagong pamahalaan. Sabi niya”As soldiers, we don’t seek political power for ourselves, but we shall not allow anyone to use political power to commit crimes against our people, or pursue their own personal agenda at the expense of the national interest. (Bilang sundalo, hindi kami naghahanap ng kapangyarihan para sa aming sarili ngunit hindi namin papayagan ang sino man na gumamit ng kapangyariham pampulitika para gumawa ng krimen laban sa taumbayan at isulong ang personal na plano laban sa interest ng bayan.)

Kung kasalanan itong ginawa nina Lim, bakit hindi kasalanan ang ginawa nina Angelo Reyes laban kay Joseph Estrada noong 2001?

Si Estrada ay binoto ng tao. Lehitimo siyang presidente. Kaya, pagtaksil sa taumbayan ang ginawa nina Reyes.

Si Arroyo ay nang-agaw ng kapangyarihan. Mga opisyal ng military ang kasabwat niya noong nang-agaw siya ng kapangyarihan noong 2001 at marami rin siyang kasabwat na military nang nandya siya noong 2004.

Ano ang mas malaking kasalanan? Ang tumulong sa paglagay ng mandaraya sa kapangyarihan o ang pagalis ng mandaraya sa kapangyarihan?

July 6, 2006 8:41 am   Posted in: Web Links

79 Responses

  1. Ellen - July 6, 2006 8:49 am

    Text message from Rep. Roilo Golez:

    Malacañang appears to be in a dilemma in Gen. Lim’s case. The Gen. Lim video has parallels with the Garci tape. If they say Lim video is admissible as evidence subject to authentication, then Garci tape should also be admissible.

    It also has parallels with Angelo Reyes withdrawal of support. If Lim should be prosecuted, Reyes should also be prosecuted. Worse in the case of Reyes because his act was consummated. In Lim’s case, it was not so because video was not aired.

  2. ystakei - July 6, 2006 9:16 am

    Yehey! Point is who will prosecute this Bansot when the Department of Justice and the Supreme Court are beholden to the criminally inclined.

    I support Congressman Golez for what he is doing. Ellen, will you kindly email to me his email addy and phone nos. as we plan to invite people like him to come to Japan and meet with members of the Japanese Diet for a briefing on Philippine issues.

    Thanks and best regards

  3. lakay - July 6, 2006 10:06 am

    Para sa akin, isang bayani ang kagaya ni Gen. Lim. He sacrificed his profession and future for our country. Sayang.

  4. jinxies6719 - July 6, 2006 10:31 am

    06 July 2006

    Funny thing with gen esperon, he claims that the video of gen lim is a prima facie evidence, but what do they call the names mentioned in the hello garci tape??? wasn’t it a prima facie evidence, he wants gen lim and company to be transferred to the maximum detention at tanay, if that is again the case, what do they call, again, the case of angie reyes other general and public officials in 2001, more importantly, the video showing the leprechaun telling everybody that she talked and plotted to remove the constitutionally elected president in 2001???

  5. Ellen - July 6, 2006 11:32 am

    Another text message from Rep. Roilo Golez:

    I believe Gen. Lim, Roy Señeres et al should be summoned to Congress.

    I am instructing my staff to draft the House Resolution to inquire into intentions and justications of Gen. Lim et al with a view to determining whether the term “withdrawal of support” is adequately defined in the stature of books, including the role of the AFP as “protector of the people” and how well AFP officers and enlisted personnel have been regimented on the principle of “civilian supremacy over the military.”

  6. Bentong - July 6, 2006 11:34 am

    Sana parusahan ang mga gumamit kay Heneral Lim.

  7. Diego K. Guerrero - July 6, 2006 12:17 pm

    Army General Danilo Lim is a true hero of the Filipino people. He risks his career, life and family for a just cause- the PRESERVATION and DEFENSE of our DEMOCRATIC WAY of LIFE. We salute your courage and conviction in service to Inang Bayan. Withdrawal of support from bogus Commander in Chief is the right thing to do. Power grabber and cheater Gloria Arroyo doest not deserve a minute in Malacanag Palace. The Arroyo government is in fishing expedition in the so-called left and right power grab conspiracy.

  8. Spartan - July 6, 2006 12:57 pm

    Bentong, sino ba “daw” ang “gumamit” kay Gen. Lim? At kung meron, saan ba siya “ginamit”? “Nagmartsa” ba sa kalsada ang sino man kina Gen. Lim at mga tauhan niya nuong nakaraang Feb. 24? At ano naman ang “kaparusahan” na “mairerekomenda” mo para sa “anong” kasalanan “kung meron man”? 😛

  9. Ronnie Mabini - July 6, 2006 1:59 pm

    Kawawa naman c Gen. Danny Lim, nasaan na kaya ang mga pulitiko at utak-talangka na nagsulsul sa kanya para gawin yun? Tanong lang ni Roy Seneres, die hard anti-GMA “Bakit nanahimik sila ngayon at iniwan sa gitna ng laban si Gen. Lim, bakit ayaw magsalita nina Oscar Orbos, Renato De Villa, Tony Boy Cojuangco at Inigo Zobel”?

    Karamihan naman sa mg ANTI-GMA, magaling lang sila mag-ingay at manggulo pero kulang naman sa aksyon. Sino ngayon ang mas katawa-tawa? Sinira lang nila ang magandang military career ni Gen. Lim, poor general, siya rin naman kasi nagpadala ka sa mga utak-talangka. Sana kapulutan ang malaking aral o leksyon ang masakit na karanasan ni Gen. Lim!

    Walang kaparusahan mai-rerekomenda kay Gen. Lim. Ang nangyari sa kanya ay isang mensahe na maituturing na isang biyaya at babala sa lahat ng mga sundalo para hindi na muling mahikayat o matuksong sumama sa mga utak-talangka!!! 🙂

  10. johnmarzan - July 6, 2006 3:03 pm

    Sana parusahan ang mga gumamit kay Heneral Lim.

    Parusahan? Katulad nung parusa na natanggap ni Angie Reyes at Virgilio Garcillano, at sa mga taong gumamit sa kanila, to steal the presidency — twice?

  11. men0k - July 6, 2006 3:09 pm

    Ronnie Mabini,

    Kung ‘utak-talangka’ ang mga taong kumausap kay lim, ikaw kya at sa mga taong katulad mo ano pwedeng itawag?… “MULAT NA BULAG”?… Look at what is happening around you… This is not anymore about of what is one’s political affilitiation nor belief, this is about what is RIGHT and TRUE…

    For so long, there are many discussions and arguments, talks of coup d’etat, etc.. all rooted from where?.. did MIDGET really win?. un lang naman di ba?.. hayaan lang nila na magkaroon ng imbestigasyon, wag lang nilang harangan ang imbestigasyon, un lang ang hiling ng marami.. and i know, lahat mananahimik na pag hinayaan nilang magkaroon ng imbestigasyon about that issue… and let the truth come out.. the congress’s crushing of the impeachment last year just because of ‘not having 79 votes’ doesn’t clear the issue of her illegitimacy.. simple lang nman di ba?..

    ikaw ba, hindi ka ba naniniwalang hinaharang ng administrasyon ang anumang klase ng imbestigasyon about MIDGET’s legality in the PRESIDENT’s office?..

    let’s all go back to the basics, to the fundamentals… just let the truth come out..

  12. Bentong - July 6, 2006 3:11 pm

    Yung mga gumamit kay Heneral Lim ay biglang nagka AMNESIA. At yung kaparusahan ay may batas na. Hindi ako pwedi mag rekomenda dahil hindi naman ako kasali sa Military Court or Civil Court. Ikaw pare, anong husga mo?

  13. goldenlion - July 6, 2006 3:15 pm

    Kung kasalanan ang magwithdraw ng suporta ke gloria e di 80% ng Filipinos ay ikulong niya. At sino ang maysabi kay gloria na suportado siya ng mga mamamayan? Palibhasa nabubuhay siya sa ilusyon, kung anu-ano ang mga pinagsasabi. mas mabuti kung kakasuhan niya si Gen. Lim para makasuhan din sina Angelo Reyes, FVR, Cory A., Cardinal sin (kahit patay na siya).

    Para sa akin,si Gen. Lim ay isang bayani, hindi siya plastik, hindi nagtatago sa saya ng donya sinungaling, mandaraya at magnanakaw. Nagsakripisyo para ilantad ang katotohanan.Dapat si Mike D. , Ermita, Gonzalez, Bunyeta ang kasuhan ng pagtataksil sa bayan.

    Kailangan na talagang kumilos ang bayan. Sagad na sa buto ang kapalaluan at pagkagahaman ni black magic woman sa kapangyarihan.Naghihintayan lang kasi ang militar at ang ang bayan eh. Bawa’t isa sa kanila ay nag-aabang kung sinong mauuna sa pag-aalsa at susunod na lang lahat. Calling Gen. Senga, uulitin ko may panahon pa, habang may mga nagmamahal pa inyo, itama na ang mali. I believe Gen. Esperon is a fine man, a gentleman, may damdamin para sa tao. Pasasaan ba at iiwan din niya si bansot.

    Walang nilabag na batas ang pagsasabi ng “withdrawal of support kay gloria” dahil wala naman talaga siyang suporta mula sa sambayanang Filipino. ang mahirap kapag si Fatso man ang nagwithdraw!!!Saan siya tatakbo?

    Ano ba ang motibo ng ABS-CBN at inilabas nila iyon tape? Gatungan si gloria para kasuhan si Gen. Lim, o pag-initin ang bayan? Sana noon pa iyan inilabas para naging hudyat ng isang bagong umaga. Pero sa mga nangyayari ngayon, ang tingin ko si black magic woman ay nagpa-panic na naman. Kabi-kabila ang banat sa kanya. patong-patong na problema. Buti nga!!! Magdusa siya!!!

  14. Dominique - July 6, 2006 3:18 pm

    I just saw on TV Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez was asked what’s the difference between what Angelo Reyes did in 2001 and waht Gen. Lim did last February. His answer: if you win, it’s a patriotic act. if you lose, it’s a crime.

    That our JUSTICE SECRETARY speaking!

  15. men0k - July 6, 2006 3:21 pm

    To my fellow bloggers, just share here your take on the matters.. and don’t be provoked by others..

    so long as we know what we want and what we are fighting for, we will be fine.

  16. goldenlion - July 6, 2006 3:23 pm

    Maganda iyan, kung dadalhinsa Camp Capinpin sina Gen Lim at mga kasama, tutal andon si Pres. Erap , malaki ang lugar, pwede nang magtayo ng bagong malacanang doon. At least maganda ang kapaligiran, mga sariwang punong kahoy, hindi mabahong ilog na pinamumugaran ng mga virus. Kaya lahat ng nasa malacanang ay mukha na rin virus….hindi pala mukhang tungaw!!!

  17. Dominique - July 6, 2006 3:25 pm

    Thanks for the reminder, MenOK. Kasi i”m tempted to react to some comments but then that would be falling into their trap. Thanks again.

  18. nelbar - July 6, 2006 3:42 pm

    To Ronnie Mabini:

    Paki isplika nga: LYING, CHEATING, STEALING and MANIPULATING

  19. lca - July 6, 2006 3:52 pm

    Katulad ni Brig Gen Gudani, labis ang pag hanga ko kay Brig Gen Lim, I think prensipyo ang nag tulak kay Gen Lim’ para bawiin ang suporta niya kay ginang arroyo. At hindi ako na niniwala na may nag udyok kay Brig, Gen Lim na gawin ang ganitung desisyon. Tama ba O mali ang sinabi ni Gen Lim’ Mr mabini? At kung mayroon man tao na nag udyok kay Lim, pinag aralan niya muna ang mga bagay bagay na maaring mangyari sa kanyang gagawin. Mr mabini’ hindi kaawaawa si Lim’ mas kaawa-awa ung mga opisyal na alam na ang mali e pinag wawalang bahala pa nila’ sa takot na mawala sila sa posisyon na kanilang kinalalagyan ngaun, at hindi boyscout kundi Brig Gen ang pinag uusapan dito. Hindi siguro makitid ang utak ng isang Brig Gen para mag desisyon ng ganito kabigat, sina alang alang niya ang kanyang kalagayan’ ang kanyang Posisyon sa militar’ para lamang gawin ang alam niyang tama., kung ang ordinaryong Pilipino e alam ang kasamaang nangyayari sa ating bansa, how much more ang isang Brig Gen’ ano ka ba? Katulad ng ginawa ni Brig Gen Gudani at ng iba pa na tunay na hindi sang ayon sa pamamalakad ng Gobyerno ni ginang arroyo, Ngaun kung parurusahan si Lim sa kanyang ginawa, e mas lalong lalabas ang kulay ng gobyernong ito, na kung saan, na kapag hindi pabor sa kanila ang ginawa O desisyon ng opisyal O sino pa man’ kahit sa paningin ng Diyos at tao na tama ang kanyang ginawa at hindi pabor sa gobyerno ay gigipitin nila at parurusahan. Pero kung pabor sa gobyerno ang ginawa ng isang opisyal O kahit sino pa man, pero sa paningin ng Diyos at tao ay mali, e ok lang. para sa gobyerno. Ganito na ba talaga kasama ang gobyernong ito. Si Garci, Bolante, Pidal, Nani Perez, Singson atb, pina imbistigahan ba ng gobyernong ito? Ang mga gumagawa ng mga pag salvage at pag torture, natututukan ba ito ng mga kina uukulan? Ngaun sabihin mo Mr mabini’ tama ba ang mga sinabi ni Lim para I widraw niya ang kanyang suporta kay arroyo ? Gising na mga kabayan, masyado na tayung pinag loloko ng mga tao sa gobyernong ito. Talagang walang kaparusahan na mai rerekomenda kay Gen Lim’ kasi kung pararusahan siya ng dahil sa kanyang ginawa e mauubos ang AFP at PNP, kung tutuusin e mas malala pa nga ung mga na unang gumawa ng pag widraw sa leader ng ating bansa, pero hindi na parusahan e’gumanda pa ang kanilang posisyon sa gobyerno. So itinuturing mo palang utak talangka ang mga sumama sa edsa 1 & 2, kasi sila ay nahiyat din na pabaksakin ang nauna nating gobyerno. So ano ngaun’ you vote a dog, you deserved a dog’ OGAG

  20. schumey - July 6, 2006 3:52 pm

    I saw the same interview with the (in)justice secretary. He only strengthened the belief that a double-standard does exist in this current dispensation. But law is supposed to be blind and fair, everybody must submit to it regardless of affiliation. Does he mean to say that if stole and was not caught, then I’m without guilt? The law should apply to all, Angie Reyes and all those who withdrew their support back in ’01 should suffer the same fate that awaits Gen. Lim. Morally devoid is what I can describe this line of belief this administration espouses.

    There seems to be a power play now in the adminstration. Esperon seems so eager to neutralize Gen. Lim. He was implicated in the Garci tapes and to silence Gen. Lim would bolster his bid for the AFP head honcho. Senga however is in a quandry on how to deal with Gen. Lim. Prosecuting Lim would open a Pandora’s Box, the tape has already opened a can of worms which has led to different scenarios and interpretaions.

    Rep. Golez hit the nail on the head when he stated that there is a parallel to the Garci tape. Without anybody owing up to the wiretap, there is no way it can be used, so is the Lim tape which if Lim denies cannot be used aaginst him. But then again, Gonzalez’s own assertion reeks of double standard.

    Lastly, the administration should stop portraying itself as the state. We the entire populace is the state. GMA is not the commander in chief, as we the people/civilian authority is the true commander of the AFP. What GMA holds is the title, but not the body. This doctrine of chain of command has to be made clear to all members of the military, we the people are their leaders, they must never protect an invidual claiming to be president and government, for we the people, is the government.

    GMA and her cohorts are merely holding a temp job. We can remove them anytime as we are their true masters and not the other way aroound.

  21. jinxies6719 - July 6, 2006 3:55 pm

    06 July 2006

    Dominique, I have heard in the radion that siRAULo gonzales mentioned, the problem right now is that the country is run by people who are really crazy.

    That is why the Republic of the Philippines has now becomes the BAnana Republic.

    jinx

  22. lca - July 6, 2006 3:57 pm

    johnmarzan Says:

    July 6th, 2006 at 3:03 pm

    Sana parusahan ang mga gumamit kay Heneral Lim.

    Parusahan? Katulad nung parusa na natanggap ni Angie Reyes at Virgilio Garcillano, at sa mga taong gumamit sa kanila, to steal the presidency — twice?
    tama nga naman’ para lahat ng sundalo e gumanda ang puesto sa Gobyerno’ ano sali tayo?????

  23. Bentong - July 6, 2006 4:28 pm

    Parusahan ang may mga Sala…NOW NA, Patalsikin na ang mga TAKSIL. Mabuhay tayong mga Commander in Chief ng AFP!

  24. johnmarzan - July 6, 2006 4:28 pm

    I just saw on TV Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez was asked what’s the difference between what Angelo Reyes did in 2001 and waht Gen. Lim did last February. His answer: if you win, it’s a patriotic act. if you lose, it’s a crime.

    That our JUSTICE SECRETARY speaking!

    Hahahahaha!

    Para sa akin,si Gen. Lim ay isang bayani, hindi siya plastik, hindi nagtatago sa saya ng donya sinungaling, mandaraya at magnanakaw.

    and i loved the part where gen. lim called arroyo a bogus president. indeed!

    so now that we saw the lim tape on tv, can we now expect the tv stations to play the gloriagate tapes on tv too? if they played the phony bunye tapes on TV, and Chavit’s X-tapes on tv, and Gen. Lim’s tapes on tv, bakit ayaw nila i-play ang GLORIAGATE TAPES sa tv rin? dahil baka ipakulong sila ng arroyo admin?

    it’s never too late to play the GLORIAGATE tapes on the TV news shows of ch. 2 and ch. 7, dahil late na ring lumabas ang lim tape, even though we’ve heard about it’s existence before.

  25. schumey - July 6, 2006 4:37 pm

    John, don’t expect Bunye(ta) to appear on tv holding two tapes of Danny Lim. That would really bring back “fond” memories.

  26. men0k - July 6, 2006 4:44 pm

    nice one, schumey!… 😉

  27. johnmarzan - July 6, 2006 5:36 pm

    ellen, are you part of NUJP? just asking.

  28. ystakei - July 6, 2006 5:42 pm

    Lumalabas na ang tunay na kulay noong mga intruders to this blogs. Yehey! Pretending to be all knowing pa ang mga ungas! Sipsip!

    God willing, the time is near! Ang ganda ng nangyayari. Kitang-kita sa ngiti ni Bansot na upset siya. At kahit na anong gawin niya an unseen hand seems to turn the tide against her and her minions, including the sundalong kanin who are going to burn in hell!!!

    Tawa ko lang pag nagkataon! From afar, napapakamot na lang kami ng ulo sa kagaguhan ng mga ungas! Sa kadadaya sila ang nadadapa!

  29. schumey - July 6, 2006 5:56 pm

    Thanks Menok, but I’d love to see Bunye(ta) make a fool of himself again. With the kind of people in the palace, the least they can do for us is to give us something to laugh at from time to time. And we thought the best clowns can be found in the majority at the lower house.

  30. Jefferson Chiong - July 6, 2006 6:05 pm

    Gen. Lim heroic act is a blessing in disguise. An act that revealed the true colors of dirty politics. Maraming nangarap maging taga-pagligtas ng bayan Pilipinas pero sino ba talaga ang tunay?!

    Thank you Gen. Lim, for educating us 🙂

  31. ystakei - July 6, 2006 6:11 pm

    Off topic, but thanks to all who sent me an email re the North Korean crisis. No damage here, and I am not worried. Nor are people here, for this matter is the responsibility of those who sit in the government. Besides, my family and I are prepared for this kind of disaster, basta huwag lang matamaan ng diretso ng bomba! I have a food supply for at least a month kept in plastic storage containers, and each ward (borough)in Japan has a warehouse of emergency and relief supplies that will be enough to feed people here for as long as necessary. We are actually just told to prepare an emergency kit each person for at least 72 hours until the government relief comes. Sa Pilipinas, golly, kawawa ang mga victims! Mamamatay sila ng gutom bago dumating ang tulong kasi iyong Bansot ninakaw na ang perang pambili ng relief goods, at busy na tawag dito, tawag doon sa ibang bansa para manghingi ng abuloy na hindi naman nakakarating sa mga biktima!

    Anyway, would like to share this note from our Jun-chan (Koizumi):

    Protest against North Korea’s missile launches/
    Japan-US alliance in the global context

    Junichiro Koizumi here.

    From the early hours of yesterday, North Korea fired ballistic
    missiles on several instances.

    North Korea went ahead with the missile launches in spite of
    advance warnings from the countries concerned including Japan.
    This is a serious issue from the standpoint of the security of
    Japan and the peace and stability of the international community,
    as well as from the standpoint of the non-proliferation of weapons
    of mass destruction (WMDs), and may constitute a violation of the
    Japan-DPRK Pyongyang Declaration.

    Japan has immediately lodged a vehement protest against North Korea.
    We strongly urge North Korea to reconfirm its moratorium on missile
    launch, to follow through on the moratorium and to expeditiously
    return to the Six-Party Talks without preconditions.

    The Government has decided to impose sanctions against North Korea,
    including a ban on the entry of Man Gyong Bong. Japan will further
    enhance its cooperation with the United States (US) in accordance
    with the Japan-US alliance, as well as further advance its
    coordination with the countries concerned including other parties
    to the Six-Party Talks. At the same time, Japan will call on the
    United Nations (UN) Security Council to take appropriate measures.

    Last week I visited Ottawa, the capital of Canada. On June 28,
    Prime Minister Stephen Harper and I discussed cooperation toward
    expanded economic relations between Japan and Canada, as well as
    the issue of North Korea, the G8 Summit and other matters that
    require cooperation between Japan and Canada in the international
    community. This was my first meeting with Prime Minister Harper who
    took office in February of this year, and the two of us were able
    to have a very thorough discussion.

    I arrived in Washington, DC that same afternoon, and on the next
    day, the 29th, I had a meeting with President George W. Bush
    following the Arrival Ceremony at the White House.

    In addition to bilateral relations including the issue of the
    realignment of US forces in Japan, our discussions covered wide-
    ranging topics relating to the peace and safety of the world and
    other issues such as the fight against terrorism, reconstruction
    assistance in Iraq and Afghanistan, North Korea’s nuclear, missile
    and abduction issues, Iran’s nuclear development, UN reform, energy
    and environment, and poverty alleviation and disease control
    measures.

    We talked at length on the issue of North Korea. President Bush
    said he was moved when he met Mrs. Sakie Yokota, a family member of
    one of the abductees. Anyone whose child suffered a similar tragedy
    would naturally be grieved and Mr. and Mrs. Yokota’s grief is
    shared by every Japanese and American.

    Japan has attached importance to Japan-US relations over the 60
    years since the end of World War II. We have also maintained
    international coordination while recognizing the importance of
    Japan-US relations because we have continued to believe that this
    was the best choice in light of the lessons of the War.

    This is the basis of Japan’s foreign policy and this will remain
    unchanged.

    There is a view that if Japan-US relations are no longer favorable,
    this should be offset by Japan’s relations with other countries.
    I, however, do not share this view. My belief is that the better
    the relations are between Japan and the US, the more favorable
    Japan’s relations will be with Asian countries such as China and
    the Republic of Korea (ROK).

    There seems to be some misunderstanding. I am by no means saying
    that what happens to Japan’s relations with other countries is of
    little consequence as long as Japan-US relations are good. I am
    simply saying that no relations are as important as Japan-US
    relations.

    Japan achieved remarkable growth and development after the War.
    This was possible only because Japan learned from the lessons of
    the War, attached importance to Japan-US relations and built
    international coordination. Japan intends to cooperate with
    countries around the world to resolve the various challenges faced
    by the world by reinforcing and enhancing the Japan-US alliance in
    the global context.

    At the State Dinner at the White House on the evening of June 29,
    I gave the following remarks in English:

    Mr. President,

    It was exactly five years ago, June 30th, 2001, that I first
    met with you. After our talks, the President and I played catch
    in the woods of Camp David. Since then, based upon our
    heartfelt friendship, we have nurtured this vital bilateral
    relationship and have joined together as close allies to tackle
    a diverse set of challenges.

    Actually, I believe it was thanks to that game of catch with
    the President that I was able to feel confident when I stood on
    the pitcher’s mound and threw out the first pitch at Yankee
    Stadium in September 2004. USA Today reported that it was, and
    I quote, “a near perfect strike!”

    The President often mentions in public that Japan and the
    United States went from being enemies during World War II to
    become the closest of allies and leading members of the
    community of free and democratic nations.

    In the new year of 1946–only several months after the end of
    war–then Emperor Showa composed a Japanese traditional poem,
    which reads, “Courageous pine–enduring the snow that is piling
    up, color unchanging. Let people be like this.”

    I can imagine the Emperor gazing at a pine tree in his palace
    and reading out this poem, at the time when our land was
    devastated and our people were depressed by Japan’s defeat. The
    snow is heavily piling up, and almost all the trees’ leaves are
    either gone or have changed colors. However, this pine stands
    firm without losing its needles or changing its color. I think
    the Emperor wished our people to be like the pine, when he
    wrote this poem for encouraging the people in the most
    difficult of times.

    Since then, the people of Japan have strived to fulfill this
    poem’s spirit by hard work and discipline. At the same time,
    Japan will never forget that it was also the generous support
    provided by the United States after the War that contributed
    heavily to Japan’s remarkable postwar development.

    During the War, the people in Japan were taught to fear and
    hate the Americans as if they were monsters, but the Americans
    who arrived in front of us in fact came with warm and generous
    hearts. The Japanese people are still impressed with, as well
    as grateful for, the generosity of the United States and the
    American people.

    In March 1865, just before the end of the Civil War, President
    Abraham Lincoln spoke to his audience in his second inaugural
    address,
    “With malice toward none, with charity for all, . . . let us
    strive on . . . to bind up the nation’s wounds . . . to do all
    which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among
    ourselves and with all nations.”

    I believe, it was this American spirit that lifted the hearts
    of our Japanese people, made Japan’s reconstruction possible
    and built a foundation for the solid friendship between our two
    nations.

    It is such an impressive thing that our two nations, who once
    fought against each other, now share common values and together,
    as close friends and allies, are tackling a wide variety of
    challenges around the world.

    9/11 was an attack not solely against your country. It was a
    challenge against all of us, the entire human race, and all
    those who respect human dignity and freedom. Terrorism and the
    proliferation of WMDs threaten the basic fundamentals of our
    life. I would like to pay my sincerest respect to President
    Bush, who has been so steadfast and determined in protecting
    freedom and democracy.

    I sometimes see the image of the United States as Gary Cooper
    in my favorite movie, “High Noon.” Marshal Cooper stood up
    alone with courage and justice against four outlaw men. However,
    there is one huge difference between that marshal and the
    United States. The United States is not alone when facing the
    evils that exist today. The United States is always with its
    allies and friends. And Japan stands by the United States of
    America.

    The President and I both recognize the importance of the Japan-
    US alliance as we, at the same time, cooperate with many other
    nations around the world, as well as with the United Nations.
    Japan is determined to further develop this cooperation with
    the United States on a wide variety of issues ranging from the
    fight against terrorism, to democratization and reconstruction
    of Afghanistan and Iraq, to alleviation of poverty, to natural
    disaster relief.

    Tomorrow, the President, Mrs. Bush and I are going to visit
    Memphis, Tennessee, home to Elvis Presley. When I was young, my
    exposure to “America” was Presley, which is a vivid memory of
    my youth. The first English song I ever learned by heart was
    Presley’s “I want you, I need you, I love you.”

    Mr. President, Mrs. Bush, Ladies and Gentlemen,

    I would like to propose a toast to the further enhancement of
    the Japan-US relationship. In the words of Elvis, “I want you,
    I need you, I love you,” as those lyrics suggest, I hope that
    our two nations, sharing fundamental values and interests, will
    continue to be essential to each other, will cooperate for
    world peace and prosperity, and will further enrich our
    bilateral relationship.

    Kanpai!

    I visited Memphis, Tennessee the following day, where I was greeted
    by Ms. Priscilla Presley, the former wife of Elvis Presley, as well
    as Ms. Lisa Marie Presley, their daughter. I lost my sense of time
    as I studied the many memorabilia of this great star at Graceland.
    I would like to offer my heartfelt gratitude to the people of the
    US beginning with the President and Mrs. Bush, who welcomed me to
    their country.

    Memphis is also where the father of the American Civil Rights
    Movement Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., known for his famous speech,
    “I have a dream,” was assassinated. I also visited the National
    Civil Rights Museum, where the site of his assassination is
    preserved.

    The Basic Policies for Economic and Fiscal Management and
    Structural Reform will be decided this weekend. The policies will
    serve as the fundamental guideline for our mid-term economic growth
    strategy and restoring financial health. Next week, I will visit
    Israel, Palestine and Jordan in the Middle East, then attend the G8
    Summit in St. Petersburg in Russia.

    Japan, as a responsible member of the international community, will
    further engage in efforts to tackle the various challenges faced by
    the international community with the Japan-US alliance and
    international coordination as the basis of foreign policy.
    ****
    Pihado ko inggit si Bansot kay Koizumi kasi sakay ng Air Force One touring US skyspace with Dubya! Kasama pa sa Graceland!

  32. Jefferson Chiong - July 6, 2006 6:15 pm

    What’s happening in this land is truly a comedy combined with tragedy. And it’s the little people who suffer, not our politicians and those noisy know-it-alls in the civilian sector who lead cushy, air-conditioned lives.

  33. anna de brux - July 6, 2006 6:18 pm

    Ellen,

    Tama si Golez!

    Sige, out with the whole thing. I doubt however that Esperon will allow Lim to attend the hearing.

    What they should do is summon FF Cruz, Gabby Lopez, Babe Romualdez and Max Soliven as well.

    Golez, an Annapolis graduate, ex naval captain (colonel in the army), was ex NSA and should know how things work at that level. He already knows that “withdrawal of support” is BS in military legal parlance.

    However, what really gobsmacked me is that Lim should be kowtowed to making such a tape. What on earth did he learn in West Point? That’s extremely poor military tactic.

  34. men0k - July 6, 2006 6:33 pm

    Yeah, I think this ploy of making this ‘video’ public backfired to the gov’t… they made it public to ‘prove’ that 1017 was really needed that time.. I think Biazon was right when he said the gov’t doesn’t know how wide this problem has gotten already in the AFP/PNP..

    I feel something big will happen SOON…

  35. FB - July 6, 2006 6:43 pm

    I agree that malacanang’s plan has backfired right in their own face… ouch… now we can compare whats the difference between tha tape and the video. Lim can also say that its fabricated 🙂 spliced 🙂
    Compare Reyes with Gen Lim’s act. Its not a crime to withdraw support from a person who stole the presidency.

    I just feel sorry for Gen Lim. Naiwan sa ere…

  36. Ellen - July 6, 2006 7:35 pm

    Re: johnmarzan Says:

    July 6th, 2006 at 5:36 pm

    ellen, are you part of NUJP? just asking.

    John, No, I’m not a member of NUJP or any media organization. But I attend activities organized by NUJP. I also share their concern for the protection of journalists and defense of press freedom.

  37. Bentong - July 6, 2006 7:52 pm

    Puro pala ulianin ang mga kausap ni Roy Seneres. Ni hindi yata siya kilala. Me mga amnesia.

  38. ystakei - July 6, 2006 7:56 pm

    Anna:

    Ask me about police work, etc., I’ll probably answer you accurately and with precision, but as for how the Philippine military is run, nada! Meaning nothing good to say about it presently with all the bobos de la yuca running the show now! But then, military tactic is nothing ingrained or inborn or anything else but something crafted not really to save lives but to defeat enemies in war.

    But what does it prove when they show this video of Lim who must have been tricked into making those “damaging” statements more as a prank than as something to incite sedition or whatever the criminally inclined wants to make out of it? Lim must have been just looking for some diversion as the man must have been up to his neck with boredom with the kind of pa-cutie-cutie BS of the Punggok who thinks her pa-cute-cute is enough qualification for greatness.

    Anybody in his right frame of mind no doubt says the same thing and much, much worse—may kasama pang “Tangna mo Punggok! Mamatay ka na sana!”

    You bet, they show Lim’s video, we insist on the criminals to explain about the Garci tapes that is more real to me than this tape of Lim!

  39. Bentong - July 6, 2006 7:59 pm

    No guts no glory

  40. ystakei - July 6, 2006 7:59 pm

    Jinx,

    Pag pinakinggan mo si SiRaul-O, masisira lang ang ulo mo kaya forget him. May nakikinig pa ba sa gunggong na iyan! I have promised not to say any profanity anymore but by golly, I can’t help it. Tangna, ang bobobo! Ang galing mang-insulto ng kapwa nila pilipino! Anong palagay nila sa mga kababayan nila? Lahat kapareho nilang tarantado? Maawa naman sila sa lahi nila!

  41. ystakei - July 6, 2006 8:04 pm

    O may isa pang ulol dito na nagmamagaling, akala mo sino. Bistado naman! You bet, Ellen, maraming pinadalang spy si Bansot dito! Matira ang matibay! Tignan natin kung sino ang tama at sino ang mali. Me, I have only one standard—TRUTH AND RIGHT! Just listen to that Still Small Voice!

  42. Bentong - July 6, 2006 8:07 pm

    SANA GANITO RIN ANG BATAS SA ATIN, NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW!
    ———–
    Police officer busted for molesting high school girl on train
    YOKOHAMA — A middle-aged police officer has been arrested for molesting a high school girl on a train, police said on Thursday.

    Hiroshi Wada, 49, stands accused of molestation in violation of Kanagawa Prefecture ordinances.

    “Our bodies came close on a crowded train. So I felt a temptation (to touch her),” Wada was quoted as saying. He put his hand up the 16-year-old girl’s skirt and touched her legs on a Sagami Testudo train in Yokohama at about 9:10 p.m. on Wednesday.

    The girl grabbed Wada’s hand and handed him over to railway workers at Futamatagawa Station, where police arrested him.

    Kanagawa police plan to release Wada because there is no risk of him fleeing and plan to send a report on the case to prosecutors.

    “It was an act that police officers must never commit. We apologize to the victim,” a Kanagawa police official said. “We will punish him severely.” (Mainichi)

    Click here for the original Japanese story
    July 6, 2006

  43. schumey - July 6, 2006 8:34 pm

    Anna,

    Just saw Lim’s tape again on ANC. It seems that Lim was extending an invitation instead to some civilians instead of them being a part of a plot. I do not know what Seneres is up to. It seems that he has a deeper participation in this and the names he floated could have been those Lim chose to head a transitory council. With the denial of Orbos and de Villa now, who’s telling the truth. Lim did not mention any names but did extend an invitation to selfless civilians could lead the country.

    This puts me in a quandry as to why Seneres had to mention names if as he asserts has no firsthand knowledge of Lim’s plans. Clavio of GMA 7 interviewed a supposed participant in the plot. His account seems too detailed that one would wonder if his story is true. We all have to watch what happens in the next few days.

  44. ystakei - July 7, 2006 12:08 am

    Alam mo Bentong, it takes two to tango. Tama ka, possible ang pinost mo kaso dito na mangyari sa Japan kasi ang mga mismong nagpapairal ng batas ay sumusunod sa batas. Sa Pilipinas, iyong nakatungtong sa itaas ang mismong sumisira sa batas! Tama ba iyan? I should know because I work in the police, court and prison in Japan as an interpreter, but you will see even the difference between the Filipino and Japanese criminals as a matter of fact based on how they have been disciplined and made to abide by the law. Once a Japanese is caught, most likely, he bows his head and says “Sorry!” and the policeman who catches him does not even have to use physical and verbal abuse as they do in the Philippines. Filipinos in most cases would even try harder to try to evade by the law by saying a pack of lies!

    Let me give you an example. Noong may nahuling pilipinong pumasok ng isang bahay upang magnakaw ay dinakip siya sa akto habang nasa loob pa siya ng bahay dahil sa may nakakita sa kaniya nang paligid-ligid siya sa isang bahay at pumasok sa isang bintana. Ang nakakita ay isang tao na nandoon sa mataas na gusali sa harap ng bahay na pinasok niya. 10 minutes sa istasyon ng tren. Sinabi ko sa kaniya ang kaso niya at tinanong kung inaamin niya, ang sagot niya ay hindi. Tinanong namin siya kung kakilala niya ang may-ari ng bahay na pinasok niya, sinabi niya noon una na kakilala niya. Tamang-tama naman na ipinatawag ang nanakawan niya at dumating sa istasyon at tinanong kung kakilala siya. Sinabing hindi. Kaya hindi na nakapagsinungaling ang Pilipino. Ganumpaman ay ayaw umamin sa kasalanan. Tinanong siya ng pulis kung ano ang layunin niya ng pagpasok sa bahay. Ang linaw-linaw naman kung ano ang layunin niya. Ang sagot niya ay “Makikihiram lang po ng kobeta!” Tinanong siya kung bakit sa bintana siya dumaan? Ang sagot niya ay kasi walang taong magbubukas ng pinto pero taeng-tae na kasi siya kaya napilitan siyang pumasok sa bintana! Kung hindi iyan tarantado, ano iyan? Ganyan in fact ang ginagawa ni Bansot at ng mga ungas na kasama niyang niloloko ang kapwa mo Pilipino sa totoo lang!

    Batas ng Pilipinas wala nang pag-asa! Inilibing na sa lupa ng mga salbaheng namamahala ng pamahalaan mo! Kawawang Pilipinas! Puede ba sabihin mo sa amo bumaba na lang siya para tumino na ang bansa. Siya mismo ang promoter ng paglabag ng batas, papaano matoto ang mga Pilipino na maging mga law-abiding citizen. Sumunod ka man sa batas ng Pilipinas, kapag gusto ng mga walanghiya ipakulong ka gagawin nila kasi mga criminal ang mga utak at gawa ng mga nakaupo. Dito ang perjury ay pinaparusahan ng mahigpit. Iyong presidente mong peke, numero unong sinungaling, magnanakaw pa! Nakakahiya ang walanghiya!

  45. ystakei - July 7, 2006 12:16 am

    Alam mo Schumey, isang ugali ng mga pilipino ang dapat nilang baguhin dahil nakasanayan nilang hindi mabuti ay ang pagiging pahamak lalo na kung ipit na. Dito ang mga pulis ay tuwang-tuwa sa mga pilipinong nahuhuli nila kasi ang mga ungas akala kapareho sa Pilipinas na kapag sumigaw sila gagaang ang kaso nila. Kaya nangkupo, mag-boboluntaryo nang magsisisigaw ng mga kasama sa krimen. Okay lang sana kung pati sariling ginawa ay buong-pusong ikukumpisal e hindi. Ibibintang pa sa iba ang sariling kasalanan sa totoo lang. Kaya tawag ko sa kanila, PAHAMAK!

    Noong araw naman ay may kaunting dangal pa ang mga pilipino gaya ng sinabi mo tungkol sa mga magulang mo at kung papaano kayo pinalaki. Ganyan din kasi ang mga magulang ko. Hindi umaasa sa anak. Bagamat inaasahan nilang igalang namin sila. “Honor thy father and thy mother.”
    sabi nga ng Panginoon “that thy days may be longer.”

    Ngayon dahil sa ehemplo ng mga kriminal na nakaupo ay papaanong titino ang mga pilipino lalo na iyong mga ipinanganak at lumaki nang umupo iyong sinungaling at magnanakaw?! Diyos mahabagin!

  46. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 12:19 am

    Thanks a lot Schumey.

    Your info is very interesting. The actual language of Lim on the tape will be crucial to determining the charges that should be levied against him by the Advocate General, which when done needs the approval of Gloria as the bogus president to convene a martial law.

    Then the shit will hit the fan coz Lim’s defence counsels can call in Angie Reyes and company and even FVR as witnesses and out go the worms from the opened can… (Sorry for the language…)

  47. florry - July 7, 2006 12:39 am

    Nelbar, alam mo tinanong ko na rin yang tanong mo dyan sa mga defenders ni mrs.pidal and i know ronnie mabini one of them or iisang tao lang sila NOON ! For sure hindi ito sasagutin ng mga defenders ni mrs. pidal. At kapag pinilit natin sila BAKA maulit yong nagkaloko-loko yong mga posting sa blog ni ellen.Nawala lahat yong posting ko noon.To remind you ronnie mabini pls. paliwanag mo lang ito : Yong scam sa Fertilizer at saka yong Respect begets REspect na tanong ko sa iyo noon. Kung hindi ikaw noon ronnie mabini patunayan mo nga ngayon explain this to me at HINDI MAWAWALA SI florry sa blog ni ellen.

  48. ystakei - July 7, 2006 12:48 am

    Itong si Pandak talaga ang galing ng tirada. Akala niya siguro kung mag-iingay siya tungkol sa North Korea, kukumbidahin siya ni Dubya! Hindi nga siya pinapansin, trying hard lang siyang mapansin! Ungas talaga!

    Schumey, OK naman kami. Bilib ka nga sa mga tao dito hindi nagpa-panic. Cool lang parang walang nangyayari. Ito pa ngang si “Cry Wolf” Bansot ang maingay sa tingin ko! Kung hindi ba namang pasikat wala namang ibubuga ang Pilipinas kundi pa sasabit sa pantalon ni Uncle Sam! Kami nga maliit lang ang militar pero hindi naaantig at handang lumaban kahit kailan. Kahihiyan ng Hapon hindi iniaasa sa mga kano. Ganyan sana sa Pilipinas!

  49. schumey - July 7, 2006 1:11 am

    Anna,

    Nellie Simbayan would definitely be the most sought after reporter. I really don’t trust Seneres. I don’t find him credible at all. Could he be a government operative? Since he admits he is an instigator, he should have made himself scarce instead of singing like a canary just to boost his ego. This could be GMA’s grand design to justify a declaration of martial law. Lim could have been an unwitting pawn in Malacanang’s soap opera. Seneres could have passed himself as an oppositionist but is really a DPA sent out to destroy the opposition in one stroke. I hope I’m wrong with my theory but I just can’t disregard the signs that seem to be patterned after the Marcos tactics.

  50. ystakei - July 7, 2006 1:57 am

    Wow, ang daming ibebentang kotse ni Pandak! Kunyari pa raw ididistribute sa iba’t ibang region to fight communist insurgency.

    I wonder if those police cars were bought with the funds promised by Japan that I understand were in fact old request na ngayon lang ina-aprobahan because of the terror threat. Ang dapat gawin ng mga taumbayan ay bantayan na hindi maibibenta ang mga kotse na iyan na puedeng gawing taxi na ipapasada ng mga Pidal!

    Sa Japan iyan babantayan iyan ng mga media para hindi maibenta and changed into cash! Gosh, masamang mag-isip ng masama but with the track record of this Bansot, one cannot help it but wonder and think. Palibhasa mother of lies and deceit katulad noong Biblical father of lies and deceit!

  51. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 2:16 am

    Schumey,

    Sounds so Machiavellic to me but after what the Philippines has gone through these last few years under and with Gloria, I’m prepared to believe the worst.

  52. manuelbuencamino - July 7, 2006 2:18 am

    Oo nga may tape pero kung hindi naman pinalabas anong sama ang nagawa ng tape na iyon? No harm, no foul ika nga ng mga referree sa basketbol.

    Kung pinalabas yun tape noong pebrero masasaktan sana si Gloria pero ngayon lang pinalabas ang tape kaya ang nasaktan lang ay si Lim. At si Senga. Lalung-lalo na nung sinabi ni Esperon na ang prerogative ng pagkulong kay Lim ay na sa kapangyarihan niya. Sa madaling salita, walang kapangyarihan si Senga sa kaso ni Lim. So ang pinaka-kawawa sa [ag;abas ng tape at ng report ay si Senga. Sigurado pag-intiga yan ni esperon at ni GMA laban kay Senga. Ginamit lang ang tape ni Lim sa power struggle ng nga heneral ni GMA.

  53. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 3:31 am

    MB,

    The situation is very tricky. The military does operate in a totally different setting with its own rules and regulations embodied in its own laws and traditions.

    At the moment, I see the Armed Forces breaking some of the provisions in its own Articles of War.

    There is ONE BLATANT violation being committed today on the person of Brig General Danilo Lim:

    He’s been under arrest and detention since end of February without any charges filed against him (I’ve been on and on about this in other previous posts) which breaks his military rights under the article of law as well as his basic human rights under the UN Convention of human rights.
    So, on this aspect alone, Esperon being Lim’s commanding general is already culpable in the eyes of the military law.

    In the UK or in France and even in the US, a military officer particularly of a superior or star rank, cannot be arrested or detained for FOUR MONTHS without formal charges levelled against him for the simple reason that it could have a demoralizing effect on the chain of command down the line.

    In theory and in practice, as commanding general of the army, Esperon has sole authority over Lim.

    However, if after 4 months no formal charges have been leveled on Lim and no court martial convened to try him, Senga in his capacity as Chief Armed Forces of the Philippines has full authority to demand that the Commanding General of the Army OBEY MILITARY LAW & FOLLOW military procedures and make sure that Brig General Lim’s rights are protected as a person and also as befitting his rank.

    There is NOT ONE STROKE solution to the hierarchy or authority problem but in a democratic context and where professional military men are involved, the Chief of Staff Armed Forces would have to be absolutely confident and sure of his moves because the danger of overriding a major service commander’s authority would lead to chaos and demoralization in a military entity.

    Having said that, and if for the sake of argument Esperon should still refuse to obey military law and follow procedures pertaining to the arraignment of Lim, Senga as CSAFP could either:

    1. Relieve Esperon of his authority and place Lim under CSAFP jurisdiction to enforce the rule of military law.

    2. Call for a command conference that should include the Secretary of Defence, the NSA, NSC, the board of Generals and 2 senior members from the Legislature to call Esperon and to have him explain why Lim has not been charged formally and faced a court martial after so many months of detention; should Esperon persist that he is right, that SPECIAL BOARD may decide on the fate of Esperon, i.e., whether to relieve him or not.

    I am really surprised that Senga has not acted on the fate of Lim. If you remember, in my other previous posts, I have often said, if the military believes that General Lim is culpable, he must be charged and tried in a court martial illico. The procedures in military law is far more expedient and simpler than in civilian law. It is therefore surprising that Lim, a star ranking general has not been formally charged and if charged, has not been scheduled for trial in a court martial.

    I do agree that in the Articles of War, the president of the republic’s consent is or may be needed to convene a formal court martial, however, Senga as CSAFP should have made the recommendation long ago based on the Army Commanding General’s own opinion. In practice, the CSAFP and the board of Generals needen’t even have the formal consent of the commander in chief before they can convene a court martial. That it is not happening is really bad and speaks very badly of the military.

    If we look at the Philippines in a different setting as if it is in conflict or at war (either within or outside), the CSAFP could override, overule the Commanding General of the Army and take it upon himself to issue the orders to prosecute Lim. Obviously, we have to determine in what state the Philippines is actually before such scenario could be envisioned.

    This happened during the Falklands war when the Chief of Defence Forces UK (that’s how the Chief of Staff Armed Forces is called in the UK) had full authority and could overide and overrule the Royal Navy Chief in decisions pertaining to the conduct of operations. Same with prosecution of erring officers during the war – Chief of Defence Forces could, if he wanted to override the authority and decision by the Naval chief (but obviously did not need to happen in terms of prosecuting erring officers and the convening of court martials).

  54. schumey - July 7, 2006 3:54 am

    Anna,

    Point taken, but is the chain of command doctrine applicable or not applicable in this particular case? It seems to me the AFP is unsure of how big Lim’s support really is. From my personal point of view, the so-called Grievance Committee never achieved its goal. It was more of lip service. Now Senga seems to be the lame duck. I suppose, he could also be under fire because of how he handled the Feb. 24 event. It took him a while to order his men to stand down.

    Now there is demoralization in the force and more animosity towards the current chain of command. Senga is very deliberate with is actions now than I’ve seen before while I find Esperon too maverick. A power struggle seems to be brewing and could escalate. Could Senga be softening up and found this status quo in the AFP becoming untenable? Certain rules and gentleman’s agreements seems to have been broken and this could be affecting Senga. He wouldn’t want to have an all-out mutiny during his watch.

  55. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 4:01 am

    Schumey,

    I’m so disgusted by the cowardice in the military leadership today.

    I know Senga, I mean I USED to know a different Senga – the Senga I knew then was a hands on decision man and a courageous warrior.

    That he is now completely under the control of his own major service commanders is absolutely gobsmacking in the extreme.

    The military today is in deep shit – pardon the expression but it is!

    I suppose the last man who was a bit more professional in the Military these last couple of years was General Efren Abu, CSAFP who, perhaps because he knew the military was being polluted and prostituted by Gloria, CATEGORICALLY REFUSED to be formally named ambassador to Indonesia (which by the way, irked Gloria} and was content to be just some kind of special envoy to Jakarta.

  56. Tedans - July 7, 2006 5:30 am

    Si GENERAL LIM ay hindi nag-sorry. Itinuturing ko siyang isang tunay na lalake na may paninindigan. Hindi kagaya ng ibang GENERAL diyan na nagtatago sa saya ng isang huwad na Pangulo. Nakakahiya kayo!!!!! PUWEEEEEEEEEE!!!

  57. ystakei - July 7, 2006 6:47 am

    Kawawa naman talaga ang mga matitinong sundalong pilipino. Nasisiraan dahil sa mga tarantadong mga sundalong kanin na ito ng sipsip na sipsip kay Bansot! Pwe talaga! Ang point, bakit hindi sila kumikilos? Hindi kailangan ang gentlemanly approach sa Bansot dahil bastos naman iyan!

  58. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 6:47 am

    Tedans,

    Paano mag sorry iyan, nakakulong siya?

    At saka sa palagay ko ay matibay ang paniwala niya na siya ay tama.

    Kailangan talaga na ma-charge at ma court martial siya para madinig natin ang kanyang paniniwala at para lumabas ang katotohanan. Iyang court martial lang ang puwedeng magsabi sa publico na ano talagang ang mga nangyari (Ay nanay ko po! democracy issue na iyan… pero di bale, naniniwala pa rin akong may demokrasya sa Pilipinas dahil may mga journalists na hindi natatakot magsulat ng katotohanan).

    Kailangan IPALABAS si LIM dahil criminal na ang nangyayari ngayon – hindi tama sa military law na siya ay nakakulong ng 4 na buwan na walang trial lalo na sa rango niya.

    Lumalabas na may gustong i-hide si Gloria at ang kanyang mga alipores na militar sa taong bayan.

    Kaya dapat ay magkaroon na ng movement to either FREE LIM OR COURT MARTIAL HIM…(kasama na din and ibang militar na nakakulong pagkatapos ng PROC 1017.)

    Kung ang court martial trial ay malinis, marahil na ang lahat ng bagay na nangyari (pati na iyang election cheating) ay ma-investigate at lumabas ng husto.

  59. pandawan - July 7, 2006 7:18 am

    Marami nang matatapang na sundalo na nagsasalita. Nguni’t mas natatakot ako duon sa mga hindi umiimik gaputok man. Kung talagang tulad ng sabi ni Esperon ay tahimik naman ang mga Scout Rangers at ang mga marines ay lalu siyang dapat na mangamba. Ang isang bulkan ay tahimik bago ito pumutok at mamuksa.

    Napatahimik nila si Gen. Lim, pero hindi ang video na ginawa niya nuong Febrero. Naideklara niya na si GMA ay bogus president nang hindi siya ang mismong naglabas nito.Nuong una ang sabi ko mukhang nagkamali siya nang gawin ang videong ito gayong hindi pa napapatalsik si Gma. Nang hulihin siya akala ko mabubusalan na siya. Pero ngayon mas mabigat pa ang nabitiwan niyang mga salita nang wala siyang pananagutan sa paglabas nito.

  60. ystakei - July 7, 2006 8:38 am

    Anna:

    Malinaw naman may masamang layunin si Bansot at ang mga ganid at swapang na appointee niya sa military na totally demoralized under her reign. Point is bakit sila maaawa sa sinungaling at magnanakaw na iyan na sobra nang minamaliit ang mga kababayan niyang nilulubog niya sa putik. Utak bugaw kasi! Bakit hindi na sila kumilos na kasama ng mga taumbayan! Time to right the wrong sa totoo lang.

    Akala mo kung sino pang nakikialam sa problema dito tungkol sa mga North Korean e wala namang ipapanglaban ang Pilipinas gawa nang ninakaw naman niya ang mga perang dapat na ipangbili ng mga gamit ng mga militar at pulis, etc. Ang kaya lang niya mga sarili niyang kababayan na pinapapatay niya. I hate to use this word “Tangna” but talagang “Tangna ang pekeng presidenteng ito!” Ang kapal ng mukha. Kawawa naman ang mga magigiting na sundalo ng bansa. Tangna lantarang nepotism, bakit hindi sila kumikibo? Tangna nawiwili tuloy ang mga walanghiya!

    Mabuhay si Rep. Golez. At least, ipinapakita niya ang pagiging tunay na sundalo niya!

    PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  61. nelbar - July 7, 2006 8:51 am

    Ito palang AFP pagnagkataon magagaya sa ENRON.
    Hindi na paniniwalaan ng mga tao at mawawalan na rin ng budget.
    Lumalabas na PRIVATE ARMY rin pala, ang loyalty nila ay hindi dun sa interes ng bansa kungdi dun sa mga benefactor nila. Nakakalungkot isipin 🙁

    Tayo lang naman na may access sa internet at iba pang information ang nakakaunawa nito.
    Ang pangkaraniwang “Plipino” ay hindi naman nauunawaan ito?Ang mahalaga sa mga Plipino ay kumain ng 3 beses isang araw.

    Kung sino ang paniniwalaan ay sya ang panalo!Ito yung winning the hearts and mind!

    Kung napapanood nyo sa National Geographic at CCTV ang PLA sa China ay tikas ang dating kung mobilisation ang pag-uusapan. Nandyan agad sila pagdating ng natural disaster at calamities. At hindi nakakapagtaka kung bakit naitaboy ng PLA ang NRA sa mainland China.

    Sa ipinapakitang leadership ng AFP sa kasakukuyan, hindi nakakapagtaka kung bakit hindi matatagumpay ang anumang golpe de estado, dahil hindi sila paniniwalaan ng taumbayan.

  62. Spartan - July 7, 2006 10:23 am

    nelbar, tama ka na…”ang mahalaga sa mga (karamihan) Pilipino ay kumain (kung paano makakain) ng 3 beses sa isang araw.” Sa mga mulat ang mata, makikita natin na sa ngayon, ang “prinsipyong” pinapairal ng “pangkat” ni GLORIA ay ang ginawa rin ni Marcos nuon, na “kapag nagugutom ang mga tao, mas madali silang mako-kontrol…bigyan mo la mang sila ng tinapay, tiyak na tatahimik na sila para kumain imbes na magpu-putak sa lansangan”….sa ngayon, karamihan sa mga kababayan natin na “naghihirap” (at sadyang napakarami) kung paano “tutustusan” ang kanilang “pang-araw-araw na pamumuhay”, ay hindi mahihikayat na sumama sa mga “kilos protesta” laban sa mga KAWALANGHIYAAN ng “administrasyon ni GLORIA”. Pero tiyak na magigising din ang “karamihan sa mga kababayan” natin ito, na ang ginagawa ni GMA ay pulos “panggagantso” lamang. Nuong umpisa ng nakaraang buwan, nagpatawag pa ng mga “mamamahayag” itong si GLORIA, duon sa “PANDAKAN” este, Pandacan Depot…at tulad ng dati, “lakas boses” na nagmamagaling na wala na raw pagtaas na mangyayari sa presyo ng mga “produktong petrolyo” lalo na sa “diesel” at “LPG”, palakpak pa ang mga “alipores” niya sa pangunguna ni “Mighty Miyak” Defensor. Pero taliwas sa “press release” ng “REYNA ng mga PANDAK”, hindi lang iisang beses nagtaas ang presyo ng mga “produktong” sinabi niya nuong nakaraang buwan at hanggang sa kasalukuyang buwan ng Hulyo. Nasabi na halos natin lahat ang mga KABUKTUTAN at KAWALANGHIYAAN ni Gloria at ng mga “galamay” niya, ang tanong na lamang ay “KAILAN” babagsak sa kaniya ang “KAPARUSAHAN”. Ang lagi ko na lamang isinasa-isip ay “mamamatay” din naman ang mga PUT%^*!># MGA IYAN. Katulad nung siRAULong GONZALEZ, malapit nang “bumiyahe” ayaw pa rin gumawa ng “matino”, wala kayang nagsasabi sa kaniya na “mukhang bangkay” na siya sa telebisyon?, nakakasuka ang pagmumukha ng tao na yan.

  63. Jefferson Chiong - July 7, 2006 12:38 pm

    Hello to everyone?

    If anything, would-be National Savior Señeres (by his own proclamation) sounds eerily like Osama bin Laden. Don’t you think it’s similar to the logic of the Islamic terrorist and suicide-bomber? The jihadi believes that Allah has commanded him to slay the evil ones – including Crusaders (Christians) and Zionists (Jews). Did God, therefore, enjoin, Señeres and Danny Lim to overthrow the evil Gloria? It’s terrifying

    Need we say more SPARTAN?

  64. manuelbuencamino - July 7, 2006 4:09 pm

    Correction Jefferson. It is Gloria who has said she is here now because it is part of God’s plan for her and for us. She is the one eerily like Bin Laden. Osamacapagal Pidal Din.

  65. ystakei - July 7, 2006 5:42 pm

    Anna:

    The reason why they have not really acted on Lim at the moment is they fear what such step would entail with the kind of devotion and support the marines gave Lim in February. Now, the crooks must have felt they have tamed them to submission that they are now willing to tell tales on Lim. So confident they are that they are now revealing the “secrets” about this Lim tape.

    Last February, I saw the whole ABS-CBN unedited transmissions where Defensor even told Korina, et al to make sure that they would not be held legally liable for showing scenes that would constitute a crime of sedition and inciting the people to commit it.

    I was called in to transcribe the video transmissions from Manila, and I actually felt disappointed when nothing really significant happened then that was worth flashing on Japanese TV.

    I could not help feeling sorry for the Marine (what was his name?) who was made to look like a sorry lot crying for the people to come to their side as they ready themselves for the worse, but in the end,they were cajoled to give it up after realizing perhaps that Lim could be killed on the spot, and there would be nobody to lead them with all their friends now and then in jail.

    It’s really pathetic to see how the Philippine military has been so demoralized that in times of war, you can bet your bottom dollar, these soldiers will not be able to defend their country and their people, even themselves for that matter.

    On the other hand, we may be able to see a new bunch of guerrillas who will show their will and resolve to survive and save their country even from a fiend like the Bansot now pestering them. Perhaps, this time, Francis Escudero would act like his grandfather who was the father of the guerrillas, because the elder Escudero was in fact the main instigator of the guerrilla movement in the Philippines, especially in Luzon, in WWII.

  66. ystakei - July 7, 2006 5:45 pm

    This information on the elder Escudero I got from an interview with guerrillas for a special documentary on the resistance against the Japanese Imperial Army shown on Japanese TV that I helped edit for NHK last year.

  67. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 7:25 pm

    Bit of tecnical correction Yuko:

    Lim is with the Scout Rangers (the Marines of the Army).

    The Marines will obey and follow the orders of their direct commander without blinking – matter of motto. When Col Querubin of the Marines decided to mount his Edsa walk with his Marines troop, his subalterns were obeying his orders and not BrigGeneral Lim’s of the Scout Rangers.

    If you remember, when FOIC (Flag Officer in Command Vice-Admiral David Wong clashed with the Marine commander a couple of years ago, they almost mutinied – normally that should have been outright mutiny in military law – who lost? VAdm David Wong. He was promptly relieved of his command and retired right away.

    That’s why we call troops in the Marines, “Grunt, Grunt”…(a term which also applies to the lowest members of the other military units)

  68. ystakei - July 8, 2006 11:49 am

    Related topic from Bong Arki:

    Please visit http://www.arkibongbayan.org for the following updates:

    1. UP students rally for 2 abducted students, UP President writes to the Defense Secretary, July 7, 2006

    http://www.arkibongbayan.org/2006-07July07-UPvsAbductions/up-protests.htm

    2. Police violently disperse youth rally demanding the release of abducted students, July 7, 2006

    http://www.arkibongbayan.org/2006-07July07-YouthMorayta/youthmoraytaprotest.htm

    3. Filipino Youth Brings Homefront Issues to New Jersey, June 25, 2006

    http://www.arkibongbayan.org/2006-06June25-NewJersey/newjersey.htm

    Arkibong Bayan Web Team

  69. ystakei - July 8, 2006 1:54 pm

    E ano ngayon kung ilabas nila ang Lim tape? Matutuwa pa nga ang mga taumbayan na bangas na bangas na kay Bansot na malamang may isang tunay palang matapang na sundalong pinoy at hindi sundalong kanin labas ang tumbong! Tignan lang natin kung hindi lalong dumami ang magmartsa para matanggal na si Bansot!

    Sa isang banda, anong klaseng husgado meron ang Pilipinas ngayon? Kunya-kunyarian? Noong umalis kami ng Pilipinas, marami na ring kapalpakan (ang pangulo noon ay si Macapagal) gawa nga ng ubod ng luho at utang dito at utang doon ang ginawa ng ama ni Bansot. Meron ngang nabalitang hukom noon na namatay sa stroke at na-overdose ng cantaridas na kapareho yata ng Viagra ngayon. Dalaginding ako noon pero kahit hindi makasabat sa usapang matanda ay naririnig ang usapang matanda at saka nasa diyaryo kaya nababasa ko.

    At least, noon kahit papaano hindi hawak ni Macapagal ang Senado at Congress. Ngayon grabe, nilahat na ng peke namang nagmamagaling na presidente daw siya. Kaya nang tumakbo si Marcos, panalo siya! Ironically, ang nakalaban naman niya pagkatapos ay isang kapampangan din!

  70. Dominique - July 9, 2006 9:13 am

    Mukhang namang nag-boomerang sa kanila ang paglabas ng Danny Lim tape. Nabuhay ulit ang Hello Garci! Mabuhay si Gen. Lim! Mabuhay si Col. Querubin! Mabuhay si Nick Faeldon! Mabuhay ang Magdalo soldiers!

  71. ystakei - July 9, 2006 5:34 pm

    Dominique,

    You bet, nagpa-panick na si Bansot, kaya itong mga heneral niya tense na tense at mabibiyak na ang mga ulo sa kaiisip kung ano-ano pang kabulastugan ang gagawin nila para mapahinto ang mga taumbayan na magmartsa sa Mendiola! I should mention the attempt now to quell people on the Internet from bombasting the criminally inclined, the mother of lies and deceit and the wannabe worst occupant of the palace by the murky river.

    I was going to say, “worst president the Philippines has ever had” but this crook has never been elected to that position and therefore has no right to hold that title! And this is the reason why I can’t see why good soldiers like Lim should not say what he allegedly did in front of a video camera. No good soldier I think should serve and follow someone who has deliberately defied convention and violated the laws of the land that he has taken an oath to uphold to protect the land he loves and pledges to sacrifice his life for.

    To all those soldiers who really love their country and want to serve it right, we say “Mabuhay! Ipagtanggol ninyo ang mga karapatan ninyo, ang bayan at kapwa ninyo mga pilipino!”
    PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! PATALSIKIN DIN ANG MGA SUNDALONG KANIN, LABAS ANG MGA TUMBONG!

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