Retired Commodore Rex Robles said the release of the tape showing Brig. Gen. Danny Lim announcing withdrawal of support from a “bogus president” is a “knife that can cut both ways.”

Malacañang may use it to support its claim that there was a planned attempt against Gloria Arroyo’s presidency, which is what presidential chief of staff Mike Defensor and Justice Secretary Raul Gonzales have been crowing about since Monday when ABS-CBN first showed it in their reformatted late evening news, “Bandila”.dannylim.JPG

On the other hand, Robles said, it can also backfire because it allows Lim to disseminate his message publicly which is close to the hearts of military officers who have not lost their idealism. He noted that Lim and the officers implicated with him, like Col. Ariel Querubin, are bemedalled and respected. “They are credible,” he said.

Contrast that to Lim’s accusers who are either implicated in the Hello Garci tapes or in the cover up on the role of the military in the rigging of the 2004 elections.

The contest in credibility was most stark when the ABS-CBN showed the portion of the tape where Lim was saying, “We cannot stand idly by while the rule of law, the moral order and the integrity of our institutions, the very future of our country and people and our own professional careers are destroyed by this bogus president.”

Army Chief Hermogenes Esperon was also shown reacting to it, saying, “He can allege that but who is he to judge the President to be a bogus President when we went through all these electoral process and she (Arroyo) is the duly constituted authority?”

Between the two, who would the Filipino public believe? Credible surveys showed that a large majority of Filipinos believe Arroyo cheated in the 2004 elections. And who was one of the military officers used in the cheating as mentioned in the “Hello Garci” tapes? Esperon!

Robles also raised another interesting point. “What happened now to their scenario that (former military officer and senator) Greg Honasan was the brains behind the plot to oust Arroyo? They even put a P5 million price for his head. Different names now are being mentioned. There’s Oscar Orbos and Rene de Villa. There’s something incongruent there.”

Last March, the Armed Forces of the Philippines released a documentary “Paglaban sa Kataksilan: 1017″ to justify Arroyo’s declaration of national emergency, arrests of persons undermining her presidency and clampdown on media. They mentioned an “Operation Hackle”.

The documentary was largely based allegedly on documents seized from Lt. Lawrence San Juan, a member of the Magdalo group of soldiers who staged a mutiny at the Oakwood Hotel in July 2003. San Juan escaped last January 31 but was arrested in Batangas on Feb. 21.

“Paglaban sa Kataksilan: 1017″ claims that the Left (New People’s Army) and the Right (disgruntled military, retired and active) have banded together to stage a “military action” to oust Arroyo and establish a transition government.

Sen. Rodolfo Biazon is of the opinion that the Danny Lim video was leaked to the media to determine the extent of grumbling in the military rank and file. He said military leaders are determining the effects of “legal actions that are possibly to be taken against those who are suspected to be participating in the events of February 24 and 26.”

He said if the military leaders see no violent reaction on the leaked video, they would press on with charges against Lim and his group, and might charge more members of the Armed Forces. A former AFP chief of staff, Biazon called on the AFP leadership “to be careful about the handling (of) the issue.”

There are also suspicions that Malacañang released it so it could be used to counter the second impeachment complaint filed before the House of Representatives.

One of the three main charges in the new impeachment complaint is Arroyo’s issuance of Proclamation 1017 as part of her “dictatorial powers to silence, if not stifle, political dissent arising from her illegitimate presidency.”

Biazon raised the question which was also asked by Parañaque Rep. Roilo Golez, “If it was not wrong for then AFP chief of Staff Angelo Reyes to withdraw support from President Estrada in 2001, why is it wrong for Lim to withdraw support from Arroyo.”

Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez’ answer is classic and should be engraved in the Hall of Justice: “If it succeeds, it’s a patriotic act. If it fails, it’s a crime.”

It clearly lays down the rule of might, not of the law, that prevails in the administration of Gloria Arroyo.

The Danny Lim video brings back once again many issues related to the Hello Garci tape. In fact, Lim can use the argument of Mike Defensor when he presented two experts to undermine the authenticity of the “Hello Garci” tape.

Defensor and his experts (only one, Jonathan Tiongco, remained after the other one said he was just invited to the forum and didn’t know that he would be used to bolster something he did not agree with) argued that in this day and age, digital technology allows one to mix voices and images. Thus his famous quote, “It was the voice of the president but it was not the president speaking.”

When Lim goes to the NBI, he can borrow Defensor’s quote and said, “It’s my face and my voice but it’s not me speaking.”

If NBI refuses to accept that, does it mean they also think Defensor was lying and that it was really Arroyo in the tape telling Comelec Garcillano to “dagdag! dagdag!” (pad) her votes? They have to be consistent.

July 7, 2006 7:20 am   Posted in: Malaya

95 Responses

  1. Ellen - July 7, 2006 7:57 am

    Dean Jorge Bocobo has a sharp commentary on Gonzalez’ quote:

    Secretary of Justice Raul M. Gonzalez was as charming as a burping chupacabra today when asked by reporters to describe his philosophy on coup d’etats and coup plots in the Philippines:

    “If a coup plot succeeds, it is patriotic; if it fails it is a crime.”

    I have always FELT this to be the most immoral, cynical, fallacious and downright evil piece of reasoning that is in common use in our public life. And now I KNOW why. It is actually an incitement to rebellion and sedition, for it upholds the attempt to succeed at a coup plot as patriotic.

    Whole comments at

  2. luzviminda - July 7, 2006 8:15 am

    Ellen, mukhang magiging makulay ang mga darating na scenario ah. Maaring puti o itim o iba’t-ibang kulay. The military and Gloria Engkantada has now another puzzle to solve. As Ret. Rex Robles said, “the knife that can cut both ways”. As some reports says that “galit-na galit na ang mga junior officers” sa mga abuses ng bogus Arroyo Administration. And it was Gen. Lim’s idea of “withdrawal of support” that prevented a “bloodshed”. If ALL democratic means have been exerted and failed to OUST ARROYO, then a MORE DRASTIC MOVE IS NOW NEEDED!!!! Maski DUMANAK ANG DUGO NG MGA ARROYO. LET US CLAIM OUR FREEDOM FROM THIS OPPRESSIVE ARROYO REGIME!!!!!!!

  3. luzviminda - July 7, 2006 8:19 am


  4. ystakei - July 7, 2006 8:28 am

    I second the motion. Frankly, I gave some contribution to the fund initiated by Senator Lim for Gudani, et al. to let the soldiers in the AFP that they are not alone, and should not be afraid to say “No” to the criminally inclined mediocre calling herself “President of the Philippines.” Time indeed for the true soldiers of the Philippines to show their patriotism. Huwag silang matakot. Hindi sila nag-iisa! PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! WALANG NANG GENTLEMAN, GENTLEMAN WHEN DEALING WITH THESE CROOKS RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT MUCH WORSE THAN HELL!

  5. ystakei - July 7, 2006 8:30 am

    I also offered to contribute to the funds for the Magdalo group just to let them know that there are Filipinos and ex-Filipinos, even foreigners, sympathizing with their cause, but a friend close to them just said, keep the money for now! Mahirap nang magaya sila kay Bansot at sa mga heneral niyang ganid at swapang!

  6. nelbar - July 7, 2006 9:00 am


    anumang coup ngayon ay hindi magtatagumpay! 
    anumang aksyon ngayon ng AFP o anumang paksyon sa nasabing institusyon, ay BALEWALA!
    Balewala dahil hindi para sa bansa ang gagawin nila.
    Isasalba muna nila ang sarili nilang grupo bago ang bansa! 
    kawawang bansa!

  7. vic - July 7, 2006 9:11 am

    Secretary Gonzalez reasoning of “If a coup plot succeeds, it is patriotic; if it fails it is a crime.”, is just a repetition of the same line uttered by better men that goes this way; “only losers in war are guilty of War Crimes”.

    Just a mark of Arrogance for those men and women in power, whose Egos are bigger than themselves. Out of Power and they are the Cowards of the coward.

  8. goldenlion - July 7, 2006 9:23 am

    Ret. Col. Rex Robles is right. The showing of the video of Gen. Lim withdrawing his support to the “black magic woman”is heading to a more serious confrontation. Once again, malacanang’s trick backfired on their semented faces. Sec. Gonzalez is very sick. Bring him now to the Hospital for Mental Health.

    I am throwing my support to Gen. Lim and company for being pro-people. Let’s bring back the honor and dignity of the Marine Corps. Do not let the queen of illusions, the cheater, the liar, the corrupt, the killer, the bogus president bring this country to chaos. . PULL OUT THE FAKE OCCUPANT OF MALACANANG. HANG THE CORRUPT GENERALS AND ALL THE CABINET MEMBERS THAT BETRAYED THE FILIPINO PEOPLE. RECLAIM NOW OUR LOST DEMOCRACY!!!

  9. Spartan - July 7, 2006 10:43 am

    Ellen, this latest “twist in the plot” of “Reyna Engkantasya and Her Evil Empire” is really “one of a kind”… :-D Like a lot of people have said, how would GMA and her “cohorts” “treat” Gen. Lim in a “legal way”? I mean, yes they could do whatever they wish to do to him, as what this “ubod ng yabang” na si Esperon was bragging on TV last night, but talk about the “due process” of filing charges against him in court…”what charges? coup’? sedition?..he had “done” nothing of those on this “decade” to say hte least. all they got is a “video footage” of Gen. Lim, surrounded by his men, saying blah-blah this, blah-blah that. But, knowing how this GMA and her “tentacles” can “twist and manipulate” the laws in their favor, I would not be surprised if they could really “pull-out” another “legal coup’” against their so-called “destabilizers”.

  10. pringemilyn - July 7, 2006 10:56 am

    nelbar, nelbar, manood ka na lang sa mga susunod na pangyayari … imbes na maging supportive ka sa mga lumalaban sa mga mapang api ay parang sinusuportahan mo pa ang mga nang aapi … huwag ka sanang maging katulad ni gloom na laging nagsasabi “we’ll never make it, we’ll never make it” … sa bandang huli ay hindi uubrang magtagumpay ang kabuktutan laban sa kabutihan

  11. pringemilyn - July 7, 2006 10:57 am

    esperon reminds me of ver

  12. soleil - July 7, 2006 11:29 am

    Gonggongzales saying things like this…sinasabi ko na…talagang malala na ang sayad nyan matagal na.It just shows kung sino sino na lang ang pinangtatapal ni Bruha sa mga sangay ng govt – from the Supreme Court to the BIR collectors!!!…so mga kababayan….What are we gona do now? How are we gona stop this bit*h and her kawatan from staying longer in power…mahal lang yung tv ko kaya hindi ko maitapon sa balcony pagkanakikita ko mga pagmumukha nila defensor, gonggongzales, nograles, lumibao et al…

  13. ystakei - July 7, 2006 11:33 am

    Spartan, All:

    I cannot understand why it is a crime to say “I am withdrawing support from a criminal suspect” while it is OK to steal votes and commit perjury, etc.? Over here, I can tell fellow Japanese not to support Koizumi but the police will not try ever to get a warrant to arrest me unless I have caused Koizumi some physical harm. Verbal abuse is something that he is supposed to take with a smile for wanting to be in his position, and the only one that may constitute a crime is when there is the possibility of libel that will mar his good name and reputation. Otherwise, it is OK to berrate a crook, especially one who needs to undergo a thorough investigation to establish without any proof of a doubt her guilt as the Bansot whom everyone knows has stolen votes aside from squandering public funds, etc. tantamount to plunder.

    Kaya ano ba ang ipinaglilinis ni Bansot na siya mismo umamin na tinawagan niya si Garci para magnakaw ng 1M votes na ipinagbabawal sa Election Code. Bakit hindi ba nila naiintindihan ang batas nilang nakasulat sa ingles. Bakit hindi nila tagalogin para walang palusot si Bansot na hindi niya naintindihan ang batas.

    Ang bobo naman na kakasuhan si Lim ganoong ang sinasabi niya ay dapat lamang na ginagawa ng mga sundalong pilipino laban sa isang criminal!

    Ang daming abogado at ang daming batas sa Pilipinas hindi naman pala naiintindihan. Bobo nga!

    Now, the Philippines is not under military rule (sabi da) e bakit itong mga militar na sipsip kay Punggok na either kaibigan o kamag-anak niya ay panay ang balandra at akala mo sila na lang ang magagaling? Iyong isa ngang sumisingit sa blog na ito ang linaw na taga AFP! Nag-spy pa e hindi naman ito secret at accessible sa Internet.

    Secret combination ay mahigpit na inaayawan ng Panginoon sa totoo lang dahil sa mga kasinungalingan, kahayupan, etc. na ginagawa ng ma kasapi ng mga ganoong organisasyon na pinamumunuan ng demonyo at demonyang katulad ni Bansot!

    Tama si Vic, et al. hindi kailanman maaaring magtagumpay ang kawalanghiyaan sa kabutihan! Ang masama ang akala ni Bansot siya ang banal!

  14. ystakei - July 7, 2006 11:34 am

    Dala-dalawa ang gunggong na Gonzales,sino sa dalawa ang maysakit? Ipagdarasal kung huwag nang makauwi mula sa ospital!

  15. soleil - July 7, 2006 11:39 am

    ..not related much, speaking of pyramiding like wat the wify of defensor is bz with (as wat i read in another entry)…Ellen, isnt it there’s another guy again whose wife also victimize many people in a pyramiding scam way back i think 3-4 years ago,..i can’t remember the name of the mocong but i saw him one time on tv at the background and he seems to be in good connections with the palace pa!..guy w sharp nose, mustache, i think he’s from Paranaque or Las Pinas..he was visible during the time or FVR if i am not mistaken. My question is, their wives doing this scams, nakakalusot sa batas..ano ba yan!!!!and now this guy is something like a consultant even….please help me with the name of the modong (looks like charlie chaplin in some way his eyes like jdv)…

  16. soleil - July 7, 2006 11:43 am

    pareho silang gunggong…basta nasa kandungan ni Bruha…kasi ang tanga nila at ang lalakas ng apog para maki-kiskisan ng braso..pweh pweh pweh…everytime i see her talk ang nakikita ko ay overbite nya…napapangiwi ako tuloy…i wana chisel out those front teeth!!!!!

  17. Jefferson Chiong - July 7, 2006 12:45 pm

    Mirror, mirror on the wall, who’s the cleanest of them all?

    If anything, would-be National Savior Señeres (by his own proclamation) sounds eerily like Osama bin Laden. Don’t you think it’s similar to the logic of the Islamic terrorist and suicide-bomber? The jihadi believes that Allah has commanded him to slay the evil ones – including Crusaders (Christians) and Zionists (Jews). Did God, therefore, enjoin, Señeres and Danny Lim to overthrow the evil Gloria? It’s terrifying

    Have a nice day & God bless us all :)

  18. Dominique - July 7, 2006 2:02 pm

    I find this Señeres weird. Is he trying to smoke out anti-gloria personailities. And he styles himself as opposition, anti-gloria.

    I remember him also with Abat.

    He is either a publicity hound or a crude operator.

  19. Dominique - July 7, 2006 2:08 pm

    I like the Raul Gonzales doctrine on comparing the january 2001 and february 2004 events: “If it succeeds, it’s a patriotic act. If it fails, it’s a crime.”

    That means, there’s nothing illegal about it. Next time, idealistic military officers should make sure they succeed. Don’t think about the law. Go ahead, oust gloria. You are heroes.

  20. goldenlion - July 7, 2006 2:43 pm

    One of the biggest sins gloria has commited is the division among the men in uniform. Imagine!! looks like a volcanic eruption is on the brewing between generals. Nagawa ni black magic woman na mag-away-away ang mga sundalo??? Hayop talaga ang virus, tindi ng pagkademonyo niya. Gen. Esperon, baka ho pwedeng sagipin nyo ang inyong hanay. Ang inyong proteksyon ay para po sa bayan hindi sa isa lang sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw, mamamatay-tao, at mapagsamantala. May mga tao pa po na nagmamahal sa inyo. May panahon pang natitira. Ibalik nyo ang dangal ng mga sundalo!

  21. Emilio_OFW - July 7, 2006 4:13 pm

    Sampal sa makapal at manhid na mukha ni Bansot ang nilalaman ng video tape ni General Lim. Ganyan ang sentiments ng 80% na mga Pilipino sa kanyang pamahalaan!

    Sabayan pa ng comments ng siraulong (in)Justice Secretary – lalo lamang nakakakulo ng dugo. Mayroon pang papungay-pungay ng mata na akala mo talagang nakakaloko.

    Mabuhay kayo Generals Lim, Miranda at Gudani. Kayo ang sumasalamin sa nakararaming Pilipino na mayroon paninindigan. You are the principled officers who know the wisdom between what is right and what is wrong.

    Sana naman ay mayroon mga kamag-anak o kapamilya ang mga military generals na nakakabasa sa blog na ito at kausapin sila. Habang mayroon pa silang panahon na magsisi sa pagpanig sa pamamahala ni Bansot.

  22. pringemilyn - July 7, 2006 4:18 pm

    goldenlion, huwag mo nang pakiusapan si esperon na sagipin ang kaniyang hanay dahil may konsensya siya, kaya lang nangangapal … hindi ka niya pakikinggan … di bat kasama siya sa mga opisyal na nandaya sa botohan? … ang motto niya ay “dito na ako mamamatay” … nalubog na siya sa kumunoy kaya hindi na siya makakaahon … kawawang nilalang

  23. goldenlion - July 7, 2006 4:36 pm

    Hindi ako nawawalan ng pag-asa na sa malaon at madali ay ilalaglag ni Esperon si Bansot. Mas gugustuhin niya ang mamatay na may dangal, at hindi ang mamatay na kasama ang sinungaling, mandaraya at magnanakaw. ang pagkasilaw niya at nga iba pa niyang kapwa general sa pera ay lilipas din sapagkat unti-unti niyang makikita ang bunga ng pagsunod sa reyna na kadiliman. Dahil kapag hindi sila sumuko sa kanilang kapalaluan……….ang kanilang dugo ay ididilig sa dahon ng kasaysayan!!!

  24. ystakei - July 7, 2006 4:49 pm

    I can understand the principle of the men uniform, and so do the citizens of the land, to pledge allegiance to the flag and the country for which it stands, but do they have to be beholden to someone who has definitely committed a crime against the people of the land or tolerate her and her minions in insulting the mentality of the Filipino people with their spins that she is not legally responsible for her actions just because she has managed to put people in the agencies responsible for removing corrupt officials, pretenders to the throne, and in her case, a usurper, seditionist and a fraud, etc., all combined in one?!!! Ang tindi!

    This talk of this woman as indispensible and irreplaceable is the most intolerable insult that any crook in the Philippine government has ever hurled at the people of the Philippines. Ang tindi ng hangin sa ulo! Talaga naman! Parang sinabi na nilang wala nang matinong pilipino kundi itong kriminal na ito!

  25. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 4:59 pm


    For once I will agree with Rex Robles.

    Lim’s tape will and not just “CAN” cut both ways.

    Pandawan was right in a previous comment when he said that the silent troops could be the danger – and both ways too.

    I am for Free Lim or Court Martial him.

    He’s got to be brought to a venue where he can be seen and heard by our soldiers and he’s go to be tried in a court martial so that we can all dig deeper into the truth.

  26. schumey - July 7, 2006 5:05 pm

    It seems everything is falling into place, Lim’s miscalculation back in Feb. could be the turning point now. The administration with its arrogant air could have well miscalculated this time.


    Yes Abu is one of the best we had. Cracks in the military are showing and could grow bigger in the days to come. Is this the crack that could finally break the dam? I hope so, but I fear bloodshed cannot be averted this time. Lim’s stand to protect the people and shy away from politics which he despises is a welcome view. This only shows how professional this general really is.

  27. schumey - July 7, 2006 5:24 pm


    Seven persons were arrested this morning in Quezon City. They were escaped Magdalo soldiers and Mayor Belmonte’s nephew. Also Esperon said that Lt. San Juan has also turned against Magdalo. They presented to media this morning.

  28. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 5:41 pm


    Lt San Juan did that? Hmmm… he must have been tortured. Brig Gen Vic Corpuz is an expert on mental torture – and wrote about it extensively (Check records of NDCP). I bet AFP counter intel agents applied the Vic Corpuz doctrine on San Juan if it’s true that he ratted on his comrades.

    And if that’s the case, can you imagine the real character of our men in uniform?

  29. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 6:24 pm


    This is the gross overstatement of the year:

    ‘Military united behind Arroyo’
    By Jolene Bulambot
    Inquirer Last updated 03:11pm (Mla time) 07/07/2006

    “CEBU CITY – Outgoing Armed Forces chief of staff General Generoso Senga sought to assure the public that the military remains united behind President Macapagal-Arroyo amid fears of possible rifts in the military over the ongoing probe of officers allegedly involved in a botched coup attempt last February.”

    And there goes PDI again with it’s “botched coup”.

    What drivel that newspaper propagates at times!

    How can a coup d’état be botched when there was no coup d’état. Either they don’t understand the mechanics of a coup d’état or they are trying to propagate a lie for journalistic purposes.

    Coup d’état is a distinct military term with military connotations and military meaning. It stands for itself and a coup d’état is either committed or not committed.

    It can only be botched when it’s been launched.

    But I will accept that a coup d’état ATTEMPT was botched, foiled, quashed if a coup d’état had taken place. But to say that there was a botched coup d’état is absolutely meaningless.

    It’s as if PDI is still propagandizing for Malacanang when it says this. The worse thing is that foreign press buy the story that there was a coup d’état in the Philippines giving Gloria a significant amount of support for staying put – nobody likes coup d’états in the west!

    That’s why I’m very upset about this sort of drivel being spewed. Not so much about the semantics but the foreign media buy it and it helps Gloria garner support on the international front – it’s like giving Gloria implicit support for trampling on citizens’ rights.

  30. lakay - July 7, 2006 7:37 pm

    Soleil-He is Reli German. Wifey is Bunny.

  31. Tedans - July 7, 2006 8:26 pm

    So ang PANDADAYA at PAGNANAKAW ay ibig sabihin ay isang PATRIOTIC na gawain din? Saan ba grumadweyt yang Tandang Gonzalez na yan? Ganyan ba ang mga itinuro mo sa iyong Pamilya?

    Sabihin mo TANDA, gaguhan na ang mga pinag-gagawa niyo. Kayo na ang gumagawa ng sarili niyong Batas.

  32. Tedans - July 7, 2006 8:33 pm

    Yang mga takas na Magdalo Mutineers na yan, di kaya pakawala ng mga Pekeng Regimen para tugisin ang mga kalaban nila. Bakit nong inilabas yang video ni Gen. Lim sabay huli rin sa mga yan. KUWARTA ang dahilan lahat. GAnyan ang Pekeng Pamahalaan natin ngayon, KUWARTA lang ang katapat mo. Dalawa lang ang pagpipilian KUWARTA o BUHAY? Mahirap na talaga ang buhay dito sa Bansa natin. Yang mga tuso, kapal-muks at may mga kuwalta lang ang mabubuhay.

  33. Tedans - July 7, 2006 8:50 pm

    Ayaw man nating aminin na ang isang pangit na ugali natin ay ang maging isang MAKAPILI. Panahon nang Hapon marami tayo niyan, yon ang sabi nila. Kung saan ka makaka-angat doon ka. Di ba? Si Tandang Gonzalez ay lumaban noong panahon ni Pangulong Marcos kasi tae lang siya pero ngayon na kahit Peke ang pinaglilingkuran niya, ay talaga namang kapit tuko siya. Pagkat siya ay natural na MAKAPILI. Marami pa ang katulad niya na nagtatago sa saya ni Bansot. PATRIOTIC siya kay Bansot hindi sa Bansa niya.

  34. anna de brux - July 7, 2006 8:51 pm

    “PATRIOTIC siya kay Bansot hindi sa Bansa niya.” Heheheh! Totoo yan!

  35. Toney Cuevas - July 7, 2006 9:50 pm

    Please, don’t call Gloria Arroyo president, it’s an insult.

    Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim as we all know is quiet on the money when he said, “the entire system has broken down, thanks to Gloria Arroyo whose legitimacy has been denied by the vast majority of our people”. Undeniably, our democracy is broken, so nothing much matter anymore in the Philippines. Gloria and her goons will do anything un-constitution, and law of the land matter not as long as Bogus Gloria remain in power.

    Lim’s tapes, Hello Garci’s tapes or any other tapes which can put Gloria away for good are just talking points and it will not go nowhere. Bogus Gloria and bunch of her thieves will make sure of that. Same as when Gloria grabbed power back in 2001, IMPSA, dagdag bawas of the recent presidential national election, recovered Marcos stolen Phil. Treasury, Jose Pidal, Fertilizer scam, automatic voting machines, et al.

    Gloria should’ve been subjected for prosecution and detained instead of President Estrada, of course it’s just my hope. President Estrada won’t even make a pimple on Gloria’s butt when it comes to lying, cheating and stealing, President Estrada is just a rookie. Gloria is the master and perfected the art of lying, cheating and stealing. Dictator Marcos doesn’t even close to Gloria when it comes to raping the country of its wealth and violation of human rights.

    Gen. Lim is right that Gloria is Bogus. And, the only way to rid of Bogus Gloria is by force, the same standard that she applies to remain in power. Talking to Gloria and through court of justice are a waste of time. Gloria already bought everybody which is why Chavit can threaten her, Garci can give her the fingers, the Generals can tell her go to h.ll. Gloria owes so much debt and favors that she don’t have the time to govern. Justice must be justified, and sooner the better, Gloria must go!

  36. Phil Cruz - July 7, 2006 11:30 pm

    There seems to be a growing cry for forcible action now to finally terminate the reign of the Mole Queen. But Gen. Danny Lim has been quartered. The perplexing puzzling Gen. Senga will soon be retired. The dreaded Gen. Esperon will soon lord it over the AFP.

    What are the chances of forcible action now? It would be interesting to see how Esperon would deal with a military that’s seething at the seams. Do you buy his statement that everything is now okay with the boys?

  37. anna de brux - July 8, 2006 12:55 am


    BBC news: Friday 07 July 2006, 16:54 GMT 17:54 UK

    Berlusconi to be tried for fraud
    Former Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi is to stand trial over alleged fraud at his media firm, a judge rules.

    Wish Philippines could do the same with its corrupt officials.

  38. magdalo_you - July 8, 2006 3:14 am

    Good day Ellen,

    Natatawa naman ako sa mga nagsusulat sa iyong pitak, it seems na hindi sila nakapag aral sa kanilang mga sinusulat sa ating mahal na pangulong arroyo,

    At hindi lang yan nagpapakita rin sila ng masamang pag uugali, nakakatakot naman na mabasa ito ng ating mga susunod na henerasyon, kasi non sense at wala silang matutunan,

    Ellen hindi ka ba natatakot na mawalan ng mambabasa ang pahayagang abante, dahil sa mga isnusulat ng ating mga kaibigang manunulat ay paulit ulit na lang at wala namang kwenta.

    For example Mr. Arnold Clavio aba eh baka mapanaginipan na nya si pangulong arroyo sa sobrang kaiisip nya rito sa araw araw na kanyang pagsusulat.

    Mabuti naman ellen at hindi araw araw ang pagsusulat mo dito kung hindi ay baka magkapalit na kayo ng mukha ni pangulo arroyo dahil ganon din ang ginagawa mo, nakakasuka na, kumbaga sa ulam araw araw tuyo lagi, pwede ba sardinas naman.

    Mga kasama dyan sa taas wag kayong magkakain ng baboy at baka di kayo umabot ng pasko, masyado kayong high blood,

    Tingnan nyo muna ang sarili nyo kung kayo ba ay matino?
    sus baka sangkaterbang baho rin ang itinatago nyo!!
    magbago na kayo habang hindi pa huli ang lahat.

    Malapit ng dumating ang paghuhukom, malapit nyo ng makasama ang amo nyo si Taning, kaya kung ako sa inyo manahimik na lang kayo at panigurado akong tatahimik din ang bayan.

  39. magdalo_you - July 8, 2006 3:25 am


    Maniwala kayo dyan kay Danny Lim, eh milyonaryo na yan sa dami ng kinamal nyan sa jueting payola sa bulacan, kaya nag hahanap damay lang yan,

    sus kilala yan sa bulacan, Gen. Lim sir ano ba naisip mo at bumaliktad ka na , balita ko ay malaki ang tinangap mo para magkaganyan ka,

    Ang swerte mo naman sir nabiyayaan ka pa pala.

  40. florry - July 8, 2006 6:20 am

    Right on the money ka, Ellen and 100% agree ako saiyo. Talagang mas malaki ang mga kasalanang nagawa nila, at ngayon ay binigigyan din ng kasalanan si Gen. Lim. Si Esperon ng Hello Garci, pumapapel lang yan, sumisipsip para mas malaki ang chances niyang ma-appoint na chief of staff, Obvious ba?

    Kung sila ang lalabag sa batas, tulad ng pag-kidnap, pagpatay, pagnakaw at pandaraya, walang crime na nangyari, pero kung mag-criticize ka sa kanila, isa kang destabilizer, communist at kakasuhan ka pa ng rebellion. Maliwanag na ang gustong mangyari ng mga naghaharing mangungulimbat at mga tulisan ay sumunod na parang maamong tupa ang lahat ng tao sa ano mang gustuhin nila.

    Ang pinakamasama pa sa mga mandarambong na ito, sila na ang nandaya para maka-puwesto, hindi man lang sila makagawa ng mabuti para sa mga tao. Ang dapat nga sana nilang gawin ay malinis at tapat na paglilingkod sa bayan at baka sakali makuha pa nila ang simpatiya ng mga tao at matanggap na sila bilang mga pinuno ng bayan. Pero talagang pagka-kapal ng mga mukha, walang tigil sa panluluko at pangumgulimbat.

    Mayroon na nga bang nagawang kabutihan ang tulisang gobyernong ito para sa mga tao. Wala pa akong alam kundi ang pag-export ng mga nanny, caregivers, and domestic helpers para mabawas-bawasan ang mga taong nagagalit sa kanila. Kung nalalaman lang nila (alam pala nila)kung gaano kahirap ang malayo at mahiwalay sa pamilya.

    Malaking tulong sa kabuhayan pero iyan ang isang dahilan ng break-up of a family. Dahil sa kalungkutan at homesickness, si Misis (hindi ko nilalahat) ay nagkakaroon ng lover, tinuturotot si Mister, at kung si Mister naman, nagkakaroon ng ibang bagong pamilya, at sino ang apektado sa lahat kundi ang mga batang walang malay. Mabuti kung ang mga umaalis ay mga single, kahit na anong gawin niya, sarili lang niya ang problema. Iyan ba ay magandang accomplishment ng mamdarambong na gobyerno?

    Hindi ko alam, kaya isip pa, pero talagang wala, kaya hihingi tayo ng saklolo sa mga blind loyalist, defenders, and apologist ni mrs. pidal & co. Help! c’mon guys, stand up and be recognized-Magdalo you, Mabini, Bentong, at lahat na kayo kung sinu-sino man kayo, mukhang malapit yata kayo sa Kusina, baka may mga nalalaman kayong mga magagandang bagay na hindi alam ng mga tao, ipaalam niyo naman sa amin. Pero mukha yatang wala kayong ibinatbat. Dapat magtsumikap pa kayong lalo sa mga amo ninyo, at huwag kayong magmukhang mga TANGA AT BOBO. Ipagsigaw ninyo, ipamalita at ipaalam ninyo sa buong Pilipinas at buong mundo ang mga magagandang nagawa ng mga ipinagtatanggol ninyo. Iyan ang pinaka-effective na depensa ninyo sa mga pinakamamahal ninyo, baka sakaling maging successful kayo sa pagdepensa sa mga indefensible, then you can start a career as criminal lawyers-yon bang maging abogado de kampanilya pa kayo. Dito sa widely read na Blog ni Ms Ellen ang pinakamagandang forum para maipaabot ninyo sa mga tao ang magagandang balita ng tulisang gobyerno. Pero kung magsusulat lang kayo ng mga non-sense, lalabas pa kayong mga BUNCH OF IDIOTS, at kung wala naman kayong masasabi, puwede be SHUT UP na lang kayo, OK ba sa inyo?

  41. florry - July 8, 2006 6:48 am

    It looks like the country is sitting on top of a volcano ready to explode anytime soon. I think this is the kind of situation this government ruled by PINHEADS are expecting and waiting for. It all brought about by the series of impeachment complaints filed against the Queen of Fantasy.

    The release of the video on Gen. Lim is not just a coincidence, but a perfect timing to draw attention of the people to have something new and more thrilling and exciting to talk about. Add to this is the statement of Siraulo Goon-zales to wit “If you win, it’s a patriotic act, if you lose, you committed a crime”. Wow, how idiotic, where did he get that, maybe from his she-evil master, maybe from Hitler or maybe he is just plain SIRAULO and on medication.

    With these confluences of events, they succeeded in drawing attention from the real business of the day. The topic of conversations among people now is Gen. Lim, Esperon of Hello Garci fame who wants the former to be jailed to show the madwoman of malacanang that he deserves to be the next chief of staff, and of course madman Siraulo with his infamous statements.

    It’s really a perfect ploy and maybe a prelude to martial rule, but may also backfire and may serve as a wake-up call to the patriotic men and women in uniform to react and start somthing that will stir and at the same time appeal to the consciousness and conscience of the silent majority to rally behind them, only this time, bearing in mind the words of Siraulo Goon-zales, be decisive.

    If and when this happen, it will be remembered as D Day in Philippine history, and to insure its success, everybody must get into the act. Yes, NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL MEN AND WOMEN (GOOD AND BAD) TO COME TO THE AID AND RESCUE OF THEIR COUNTRY. The line sounds familiar, but whoever coined these words before, I’m using it to appeal to all Filipinos to help put an end to a ruthless, corrupt, immoral and injustice regime. And if I may add “ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY”-IMMORTAL Words of JFK. And the time is right now.

  42. jorgie - July 8, 2006 7:59 am

    It’s this kind of double standard that truly sucks in this Arroyo regime. It was okay to withdraw support from Erap but wrong to do the same to this dwarf in the Palace. It was okay and free to go out in the streets daily without rally permit during Erap’s time but today it’s not. It’s okay for Cardinal Sin and CBCP to call for Erap’s resignation but wrong today for the Catholic Bishops to criticize the midget.

  43. Dominique - July 8, 2006 8:22 am

    Florry, reminder from Men-ok from previous post: Let’s not fall into the trap of these Arroyo spies.They want to provoke us to shift the topic away from the Evil Queen. Best is ignore them.

    I’m saddened by the arrest of the Magdalo officers. Kung sino pa ang adhering to their ideals for truth and justice, yun pa ang pinaparusahan. Look at Esperon, who participated in Gloria Arroyo’s cheating. Siya pa ngayon ang naghahari-harian.

    But then I remember the sufferings of Jesus Christ.

    I’m praying for these young men. May they be given the strength to overcome these trials.

    I’m not ready to believe the report that Lt. Lawrence san Juan has turned around. But even if it’s true, i will still not take it against him. I can imagine the torture that he is being subjected to.

    It’s understandable that makipa-laro lang muna sila kay Arroyo. What is important is what is deep in their hearts.

  44. Bentong - July 8, 2006 9:29 am

    Bakit ba kapag hindi sangayon sa OPINYON ninyo ay branded agad na alipores ni GMA, Malayong malayo ako sa KUSINA..nalapit nga ako sa kubita malapit sa inyo. Alam ko naman na kahit anong sabihin ko dito ay hindi rin malalaman ng buong Pilipinas dahil kayo kayo lang ang nagtatalakan dito. Daming nagsasabi na bakit nuon ay ganoon at hindi pwedi ngayon. Simple lang, lessons were learned.

    You know this is not the truth, marami pang iba…..

    “Only ‘Gringo’ at large

    Calderon hailed the arrests as a “big blow to destabilization forces.” He said only the group of ex-Sen. Gregorio “Gringo” Honasan remained at large.

    “Siya na lang ang natitira (He’s the only one left),” said Calderon.

    Sarmiento, Rabonza and Bumidang carried a P500,000 bounty each for their alleged participation in the 2003 Oakwood mutiny in Makati City. The money–P1.5 million in all–will go to informants, police said.

    The trio escaped from detention in Fort Bonifacio on Jan. 17 while on trial for coup d’etat. The other three men had gone on absence without leave (Awol) soon after.”

  45. Spartan - July 8, 2006 10:22 am

    Ellen…dumarami na naman ang mga “pakawala” ng mga “alipores ni Gloria” na “ngaumagak-ngak” dito sa “forum” mo. Ang mahirap nito, katulad din sila ng kanilang mga “panginoon” na pulos “taliwas” sa KATOTOHANAN ang pinagsasabi. Ewan ko, pero totoong “NAPAKARAMI NA TALAGA NG DEMONYO” sa lupa, at hindi na rin “nakaligtas” ang ating bansa sa mga “naglipanang mga masasamang espiritu” na katulad ng mga ito. Kung hindi ka naman talaga…”pumapasok sila dito para lamang ipilit ang kanilang mga HUWAD na PANANAMPALATAYA sa kanilang “Lord Gloria”. “There are people who talk without speaking, hearing without listening, but the worse are those who are looking without seeing”.

  46. Bentong - July 8, 2006 10:55 am

    And pity those who talk and talk. Pity also those that calls GMA, Lord. There is only one Lord and that’s the creator. GMA might have created you. Kaya nag pupulitika na rin ang mga Obispo dahil pagsesermon at preacher na rin ang dating ninyo. Heto anf tutoo..pakawala at alipores ako ng FREEDOM of SPEECH. Hindi pweding ikaw lang ang puro speech! MABUHAY ANG MALAYANG PAMAMAHAYAG.

  47. Spartan - July 8, 2006 11:11 am

    O me nag-react? Kala ko ba “bato-bato sa langit tamaan huwag magagalit”? “Kadugo” talaga ni Gloria ang mga ito, “they just keep on contradicting themselves”.

  48. ystakei - July 8, 2006 11:17 am


    You’re right, why call the Bansot president when everybody knows she stole votes and should have been axed if the agencies that are authorized to send her to jail and punished are not dominated by her friends, cronies and kin? Me? Never addressed her as such!

    Now, they (the puppets of the Bansot) are jumping like monkies for the “capture” (kuno) of the Magdalo who were allowed to escape in February but are now being returned to the barracks for debriefing or torturing depending on which side they would pledge allegiance to, the Philippines or the Enchanted Kingdom!

    Playing innocent pa nga si Bansot para kungyari talagang wala siyang kinalaman sa pananakot na ginagawa niya sa mga sundalong nagiging kanin na sa hirap na dinadanas nila regardless of whether or not they are graduates of the PMA, etc.

    Now, sabi ng publicity ni Bansot, sumuko na si San Juan. O sige nga, ilabas nga nila siya. Baka magsisigaw iyan katulad noong supporter ni Erap na nagsisisigaw na niloto ang kaniyang bayag ng mga hoodlums sa AFP! Hindi ba nahihiya ang mga sundalong kanin na iyan.

    Now, regarding the MAKAPILI, itong mga ito ay sumapi sa mga hapon (iyong mga talagang makapilipino) dahil sa gusto nilang lumaya na ang Pilipinas. Ito ang natutunan ko sa ginawa naming documentary tungkol sa Makapili at gerilya noong WWII. Sa totoo lang ay mas makabayan pa nga sila because they were not fighting for Japan but for Philippine independence from the USA. Iyong mga gerilya lumaban sa Hapon as a matter of fact for the sake of America na ang nagbibigay sa kanilang pag-asa ay iyong pangako ni MacArthur na babalik siya. Unfortunately, may mga sumali siguro sa Makapili na gusto lang magsamantala just like the Tongressmen of today who are supporting the Bansot for the money that she can supply them, but once nawala ang supply, balimbingan na naman!

    Kawawang bansa!

  49. ystakei - July 8, 2006 11:38 am

    FYI, I have kept the original copies of the videos of interviews we did with aging members of SAKDAL (the mother organization of MAKAPILI) and the guerrillas who are in fact still trying to be recognized for possible compensation for their services to America during WWII.

    At Sta. Rosa, Laguna in fact there are only a handful of these Makapilis left and with these interviews with them, I hope I can write a history book on this movement and correct the impression that they were traitors for they were in fact likewise fighting for their country to be free!

    Mas matino pa nga sila kesa dito sa Bansot na sinira na ng husto ang sistema ng pamahalaan at parang impakta na ginawang parang mga hayop ang mga sundalong pinoy na nagmistulang mga busabos. Dito iyan, kung hapon iyan, baka matagal nang nasibak iyan! Hindi kasi papayag ang mga tao dito na magutom at ito lang si Bansot ang nagpapasarap kasama ng mga binabasbasan niya ng grasyang galing sa kaban ng bansa!

  50. ystakei - July 8, 2006 11:40 am


  51. ystakei - July 8, 2006 11:47 am


    May kanta tungkol diyan:

    Doon po sa aming
    bayan ng San Roque
    May nagkatuwaang
    apat na pulubi
    Sumayaw ang pilay,
    nanood ang bulag
    Kumanta ang pipi,
    nakinig ang bingi.

    Pero mali yata. Hindi ito applicable doon sa mga nagbubulag-bulagan na ispiya ni Bansot na umamin na taga military siya. Bistado naman kahit hindi niya sabihin.

    In fact, sumali ako sa research na isinasagawa ngayon ng Ministry of Communication namin tungkol sa pagpapairal ng bagong Internet Law ng Japan. Sa totoo lang monitored and aking mga emails sa aking account.

  52. soleil - July 8, 2006 11:48 am

    thank u lakay…yes ur ryt…reli german…wonder wat happen sa mga dinenggoy nila…but they have all d money – to “fix” everything and to harass those who have “no voice” so to speak…like the Bruha n her minions – puro bingi at pakapalan ng mukha at sobra-sobra-sobrang walanghiya…read one time dat bruha’s doter prefer nt to read news against her family daw kc she cries a lot. e ano ngayon. kausapin mo ang mga magulang mong gahaman, kc sa inyong mga anak babagsak ang pinakamalaking karma that u can never imagine. on the other hand,kayongt angkan ng mga demonyo sa palasyo ay wala paring paki cz even wen ur out na in the palace, u still have your mansions and summer houses in the usa n sigurado sa europe…lumindol sana ng malakas at takluban kayo ng tsunami while ur all vacationing in ur summer mansions….mga hayop na angkan!!!!!!

  53. Spartan - July 8, 2006 11:53 am

    Military, NBI, PNP, o kahit pa mga “kubrador ng jueteng” na galing Lubao ang mga “alipores” na iyan ni Gloria na “inatasang” magman-man o “mag-monitor” sa mga “pangkaraniwang tao” tulad natin…iisa lang ibig sabihin niyan…sa kanila “napupunta” at “ginugugol” ni Gloria at ng kaniyang “pangkat” ang salapi ng bayan…kasama na iyong mga “nakubra mula sa e-vat”. Mga “walang kuwentang tao” ang mga iyan “Manang” Yuko.

  54. Bentong - July 8, 2006 12:20 pm

    Ingat lang sa panalangin ng Lindol at Tsunami..idadamay mo pa ang mga mamamayan. Buti kung lumindol ay yung target mo lang ang lindolin. Easy lang sa madugong pamamarahan. Kawawa naman kaming nasa Pinas. Buti kayo diyan sa abroad ay okay lang pag nagkalintikan na dito. Hindi bulit proof ang kubo ko.
    Ewan ko kung kanino galing ito but it covers everyone.

    “People are not seeing the truth not because there is no truth to be seen but rather it is refusal to accept and “open” their eyes to the truth.”

  55. Dominique - July 8, 2006 1:25 pm

    “Hindi bulit proof ang kubo ko.
    Ewan ko kung kanino galing ito but it covers everyone.”

    Ang maganda dito kay Bentong may sense of humor.

  56. ystakei - July 8, 2006 1:27 pm

    The truth shall make you free! Pero free ba ang mga pilipino?

    Gosh, nagkalat ang mga pilipino sa buong mundo, nakakaawa ang mga itsura ng karamihan dahil nagmumukhang busabos sa uri ng mga trabahong hinahanap ni Bansot para may makikilan siya! Tarantado talaga!

    Meron akong nakitang mag-asawang pilipino sa may Picadilly Circus nakaupo sa bangketa kumakain ng ice-cream, gosh, nakakaawa ang itsura! Sa SFO, isang pilipino nagpapalimos, akala intsik ako at nanay ko, lumapit sa amin para magpalimos, nang tagalogin ko napahiya siguro at nagtatakbong lumayo. Naisip ko tuloy, kung ganoon din lang ang magiging buhay ng mga ito sa ibang bansa, bakit pa ito dumayo sa malayo?!

    Sino ngayon ang bulag sa katotohanan? Itong nagpapanggap na makapilipino pero ginugutom at itinutulak ang mga pilipino na layasan ang kanilang bansa o iyong mga makapiling lumaban sa mga amerikano kasama ng mga hapon para sa kasarinlan ng Pilipinas?

    Tangna (sorry for the bad word) inubos na ang kayamanan ng bansa sasabihin pang bigyan ng pagkakataon. Anim na taon nang nagnanakaw ng husto at decada nang taon na pihadong matagal nang nagnanakaw kaya nakabili ng gusali sa SFO?

    O tignan mo nga si Koizumi bababa na dahil kinukulit ng mga ayaw sa kaniya na bumaba na siya dahil sa totoo lang ayaw namin ng isang lider na sunud-sunuran sa mga kano! Pero kumpara kay Bansot, di hamak namang may ginagawa ang ungas para hindi naman mapahamak ang bansa at mga kababayan niya.

    Alam ni Bush iyan kaya naman kunyari hindi niya inuuto si Koizumi. Isinakay pa sa Air Force One para isama sa Graceland at lokong-loko kay Elvis! Abaw, may regalo pa si Koizumi na ’54-vintage na jukebox na may 25 na plakang paboritong kanta ni Koizumi na kanta ni Elvis. Magsawa siya pagbaba niya na mag-rock n roll.

    Inggit ngayon si Bansot! At akala niya makakaisa na siya sa pagsisigaw niya na parang lukaret tungkol sa North Korea. E di pahiya siya! Buti nga sa kaniya! :-P

  57. Bentong - July 8, 2006 2:30 pm

    Sige na mo na itong sinulat mo tungkol sa AirForce 1 kay GMA, baka sakaling atakihin ng hika sa katatawa. Hindi pa madugo kaya lang baka mas dumanak ang dugo sa mga gustong umupo sa pag aagawan.

  58. men0k - July 8, 2006 2:32 pm

    hi guys!…

    just an observation?.. have you noticed that the video of the ‘capture’ of the ‘magdalo escapees’ have no date and time stamped on it.. nka-blank ung date and time nung video.. kasi if you really want to document that thru a video the first thing you would do is to activate or enable the date/time of your video capturing device, isn’t it?.. hindi kasi nila pwedeng lagyan ng date and time nkasi malalamang ‘scripted’ eh ;-) simple lang di ba?.. i mean simple lang, sa mga nag-iisip.. oopss.. am getting carried away na naman..

    i said ‘magdalo escapees’.. si MIDGET, aral sa states yan and very close sila ni Bush.. ang style ni bush in his anti-terrorism approach is, kunyari may mga terorista at ‘huhulihin’ sila to say na may nahuhuli silang ‘kalaban’ but those were part of the previous groups na nhuhuli nila.. ini-installment lang ang pagpapalabas para my media coverage.. kasi nga naman nakakhiyang after two-three years, ‘wala’ silang nahuhuling kalaban…

    ganun din ang ginagawa ni gloria… di ba ung mga magdalo na un, part of those group na na-pardon ni MIDGET before?.. tapos nag-AWOL daw ba o ‘tumakas?’.. tapos ngaun nahuli kasi ramdam ng mga tao na balak na namang mag-aklas ng mga sundalo kung kya kunyari na-’preempt’ na naman because of this ‘capture’.. my video coverage pa.. bakit?.. kasi kung walang video hindi sila paniniwalaan?.. tapos my storya pa na magpapasabog sa SONA?… tsk, tsk, tsk… i bet my two cents here that before the SONA or during SONA, MIDGET might declare Martial Law…

  59. Bentong - July 8, 2006 4:18 pm

    Galing ng obserbasyon mo. B@b@ talaga ang kumuha ng video. Baka naman dead na yung memory battery at walang pampalit. Nakakahiya..Patalsikin na, now na! Ang hirap niyan baka mga look alikes lang ang mga ito sayang lang ang 3 araw na stake out. Huwag naman sanang magkagulo at bangitin ang Martial Law dahil baka hulihin lahat ng nag blogging dito..damay pa ako, nakikibalita na nga lang. Balak ko pa naman sanang mag abroad din.

  60. magdalo_you - July 8, 2006 7:44 pm


    Nakakaawa naman itong nasa nasa taas ko, puro pantasya na lang, ikaw na lang kaya ang patalsikin, Martial law ba ika mo, kahit sa pabiro ay wag mong banggitin yan, dahil hindi ka pa nakaranas nyan, kaya nakakapagsalita ka ng ganyan.

    Maawa naman kayo sa ating mga kapatid na pulis at sundalo na isinakripisyo ang kanilang mga sarili para lang mahuli ang mga puganteng sundalo, di ba nyo naisip kung nanlaban ang mga yan, kaya nyo bang pakainin ang maiiwan pamilya nga ating mga sundalo at kapulisan.

    Puro satsat wala namang kwenta, meron pa kayong mga sense sense na nalalaman at mga grupo ng oposisyon na walang ginawa kung hindi manggulo at ilagay ang ating bansa sa kahihiyan.

    Patahimikin nyo naman ang pilipinas.

  61. magdalo_you - July 8, 2006 8:02 pm


    Isa pa tong si arnold Calvio bakit kaya hindi sya ang pumunta don sa edsa at doon sya magsisigaw, hindi yung gagamitin nya pa ang dyaryong abante sa mga panghihikayat nya sa mga tao na mag aklas labang sa kasalukuyang gobyerno.

    Anong palagay nya sa sarili nya si Ninoy Aquino hoy malayo ka malayo ka kay ninoy. aba eh sinisi pa nya yung mga bayaning nakalibing, wag na raw nating antaying bumangon, eh gago pala sya, alam nyang patay na yun.

  62. Ellen - July 8, 2006 8:49 pm

    Paki-usap, please huwag tayo magmura. Huwag gumamit ng mga bastos na expression.

    Ginagalang ko ang karapatan ng bawat isa na magpahayag ng kanyang saloobin kahit hindi kapareho ng aking opinyon. Ngunit walang excuse gumamit ng bastos na salita.

    We can be emotional and still be decent. Let’s keep it that way. Thanks.

  63. Bentong - July 8, 2006 8:55 pm

    Kawawa ka naman, mukhang natorture ka. Hindi na sana kita papansinin kaya lang baka lalong sumama ang loob mo at bangungutin ka. At kung Martial Law na sinasabi mo dinanas ko na rin iyan kaya nga tulad ng sabi ko sa itaas ay huwag mangyari muli. Huwag kang nagmumura at galing ka rin sa ina mo. Ingat ka na lang.

  64. Bentong - July 8, 2006 8:58 pm


  65. soleil - July 8, 2006 9:00 pm

    nasa pinas din ako dont worry…and i am not praying for the tsunami n earthquake to happen here…i said sa mga private retreat nila…may mga ari-arian na little island ang mga yan for all we know…PEro kahit paano, I know mahal pa rin tayo ng Diyos (na kahit puro walanghiya ang dapat mangalaga sa bansa)..we are still spared frm deadly forms of catastrophe like SARS, bird flu, tsunami. In the end, we all have to take care of ourselves talaga bec this administration will only do things in the form of showing-off and pasikat…God help us all!!!

  66. soleil - July 8, 2006 9:15 pm

    Ellen, makikilala mo ang tao sa mga lumalabas sa mga bibig nila…but the internet is a very good disguise kc…one can always fantasize or pretend to be someone strong and so powerful in words, when in reality, they r like puppies with tails under their hind legs….i admire the guys in this blog who realy pour out their hatred in their most honest way, informing us of the reality in its most blunt form, without offense, just reality!

  67. Ellen - July 8, 2006 9:16 pm

    I believe that all the trials that our nation is going through doesn’t mean God cares less for us. These trials, if we overcome it, should make us stronger.

    But it doesn’t mean that God loves less people in those countries that were hit by natural disasters like sars, bird flu and tsunami. It doesn’t mean that God loves us more than he does for them.

    God moves in mysterious ways.

  68. soleil - July 8, 2006 9:23 pm

    very well said Ellen…just said it this way, kc talagang kawawa naman ang karamihan sa mga kababayan natin…we here hav to admit are luckier in the sense we sit in front of our notebooks, pouring our sentiments to one another, while a majority are soaked and shivering in the rain, or rummaging through garbage cans for left overs frm airconditioned, lighted malls around the country :(

  69. lakay - July 8, 2006 9:50 pm

    maganda itong palitan natin ng opinyon. nailalabas natin ang ating mga saloobin. kaya lang, in a way, parang tama rin iyong sinasabi ng nasa itaas na paulit-ulit ang mga sinasabi natin. batuhan lang tayo ng kuro-kuro pero tayo-tayo lang dito. may inaabot ba ang mga good ideas natin o hanggang magandang ideas na lang ang mga ito? wala na bang ibang paraan? palagay ko, kahit magkulay hinog na siling labuyo ang mga words natin dito dahil sa init at tindi ng emosyon, eh, sa palagay ko lang parang mga fence sitters pa rin tayo.

    you might say, at least, maingay na fence sitters, hehehe!

  70. ystakei - July 8, 2006 10:03 pm


    Kaya nandiyan ang Internet Brigade dahil nag-iingay tayo! Paulit-ulit! So what? Dapat lang para mabingi iyong mga bingi! :-P The truth is this blog is being monitored by the spies of the Bansot! And so are those lists dominated by people who hate her but cannot do more than what they are doing!

    Hindi kasi kayo sanay ng pagbatikos ng walang urungan gaya ng ginagawa ng mga media dito sa Hapon kapag may tarantadong abusadong katulad ni Bansot. Arya lang para makunsumi si Mrs. Kurakot!

  71. pringemilyn - July 9, 2006 2:00 am

    hindi kaya magandang ideya na simula ngayon ay sikapin nating sa wikang tagalog lang tayo mag sumite ng ating mga komento? … nasabi ko ito ng sa ganoon ay magawa nating mainprenta ang mga palitan ng kuru kuro dito sa blogsite na ito at pagkatapos ay ipabasa natin sa ating mga kapitbahay na walang internet access … mas maiintindihan nila ang mga palitan ng kuru kuro sa wika natin kesa sa wikang banyaga … tingnan nga natin kung totoong 80 porsiyento ng mga pilipino ay ayaw na kay glo … anong sa palagay ninyo?

  72. ystakei - July 9, 2006 2:11 am

    Last shot before I go to bed. Natapos ko ang isang video tape for the documentary on the caregiver to be aired on NHK here in November.

    Just as I thought, itong caregiver program ni Boba e glorified version ng Japayuki. Golly, 15-year-old nire-recruit na umattend ng mga orientation daw! Susmaryopes! Baka ang ginagawa diyan ibinibenta iyong mga dalaginding doon sa mga pedophile!!! Heaven forbid!

    Ellen, this is another thing that you can do another exclusive dahil I am pretty sure may racket. Apparently, these caregivers are supposed to be sent to Japan, Canada (especially the French-speaking part of Canada), and some English-speaking countries.


  73. jorgie - July 9, 2006 6:06 am

    It’s easy for me to suspect that this Lt. San Juan could be another military asset or spy sent by Arroyo’s government to penetrate the rebel groups accused of ousting GMA. I recall very well that immediately after his arrest, San Juan showed so much determination and conviction to fight against this GMA government. He was shown in the media with fist held high shouting anti-government remarks. Why did he now go to the side of the government? And why only now…after months of solitary confinement in the cell? Was he physically and mentally tortured? Was he brainwashed or threatened? Was there a leverage that he could not turn down? Or was he another government spy sent to infiltrate the rebel’s group Magdalo?

    It reminds me of then Lt. Victor Corpuz who deserted from PMA and joined the underground Communist movement. Now, he is a General and was given many sensitive positions. I believe there are many of this kind. In the police and military, one won’t be able to know for sure if the other is on which side. That’s why there’s the so called counter intelligence group. Whatever it is, despite the mess this GMA government is causing the country, they’re pretty good in intelligence work. The recent arrest of the remaining six Magdalo officers proves this.

  74. Dominique - July 9, 2006 9:11 am

    Or is it possible that San Juan is just coorperating with them to buy time? Nakipaglaro lang. I ddn’t want to judge him because we don’t know the situation that he is in. It’s not farfetched that he was tortured.

    Gloria may have scored in arresting the rebels. But has she suppressed the unrest that stemmed from her cheating in the 2004 elections and other anomalies she committed? I doubt it.

  75. florry - July 9, 2006 11:51 am

    Bentong, pasensiya ka na hindi kita nakita, nagpunta ka pala sa kubeta malapit sa amin. Pero may mga nakita ka bang mga estudyante doon, kasi balita ko, ginagawa na raw classrooms ang mga bathroom and kubeta dahil sa shortage. At saka palagay ko naligaw ka lang sa pagpunta mo rito. Di ba dapat ang puntahan mo ay mga kubeta ng LTA Building sa Makati, o kaya sa PAGCOR, o kaya sa Batasan at mas malamang ay sa Malacanang? Mahinang klase talaga, ang alam kong mga nasa undercover assignments ay matitinik, tipong james bond. pero naligaw ka pa. Kasi ang kubeta yan ang paboritong meeting place ng mga under, doon sila gumagawa ng transactions at nagaabutan ng kung anu-ano at kung tipong alanganin ka, doon pa rin nagkaka- alam mo na siguro yon kung matinik ka na.
    At yong isang kasama mo rin o baka ikaw pa rin yon parang medyo napika yata sa mga salitang sense-sense. Talaga naman kasing walang sense ang mga pagdadada ninyo. Bakit ang titirahin ninyo ay yong mga columnist, si Ellen, si Calvo trabaho nilang magbigay ng opinion at ipakita sa mga tao ang nabgyayari. Iyan ang gayahin ninyo, ang isulat ninyo ang magagandang gingawa ng paymaster ninyo, pero mali yata ano, kasi pag mahal na ng mga tao ang mga amo ninyo, wala na kayong ipagtatanngol, wala na ring delihensiya.

  76. jorgie - July 9, 2006 12:03 pm

    It is also very possible the five months of solitary confinement has caused him mental suffering such that he has really succumbed to the desires of his captors… this is how heinous Pandak is…

  77. men0k - July 9, 2006 1:35 pm

    The gov’t is trying to banner now that they can unmask those who are behind the coup plot (civilians and military) and they will be charged. No matter how hard they try to divert the issue, the bottom line is they cannot fool the people nor the military. It doesn’t matter if they can pinpoint the people behind these coup rumors today, tomorrow, next month, etc.. does knowing these people behind the coup plot make MIDGET a legitimate president? Maski mahuli pa nila lahat ang nagpapakana ng coup, mga civilian man or sundalo o general man, still hindi pa rin ito magpapatunay na hindi nandaya at hindi sinu-supress ang katotohanan ng gobyernong ito… coup plot is one story BUT the bigger and more serious story is the legitimacy of MIDGET… NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY TO DIVERT THE ISSUE OF MIDGET’S LEGITIMACY, THE PEOPLE WILL STILL CRY FOR TRUTH! Mahuli nyo man ngaun lahat ng Magdalo, lahat ng civilian supporters, lahat ng NPA, lahat ng tao man sa Pinas ikulong nyo… IT WON’T CLEAR OUT THE DOUBT ON LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION! And that is the root of emergence of another group like Magdalo, another General like Lim and Miranda, another Bishop like Yniguez, another mediaman like Clavio, another People Power… You can’t hide the TRUTH from us.

  78. men0k - July 9, 2006 1:58 pm

    The gov’t say “Give the country a break…” I suggest those DOGS of MIDGET, before they say that line, get first a mirror and face it, then say that line, wholeheartedly…

  79. Dominique - July 9, 2006 3:19 pm

    That’s right. The Evil Queen and her cohorts should give the country a break. Tigilan na ang kasinungalingang. Let’s bring back honesty and decency.Out with the liar, cheat and thief.

  80. ystakei - July 9, 2006 4:58 pm

    Hindi nila inilalabas si San Juan kasi baka sumigaw na katulad noong mga supporters ni Erap na nagsisisigaw na niloto ang kanilang bayag para paaminin ng kasalanang hindi naman nila ginagawa!

    Dapat diyan ibalik na ang dating sistemang independent ang pulis sa militar! At saka ang mga heneral ay di dapat na si Bansot ang nag-a-appoint at gagawin nga nila ang mga kawalanghiyaang ginagawa nila ngayon! Nakakademoralized. Kung ako ang sundalong pinoy, hihikayatin ko ang mga kasama kong mag-mass AWOL kami!

    Laking anomalya iyan kapag nagkataon. E tignan ninyo naman ang nangyayari. Dahil binigyan ng kapangyarihan pati kriminal na bastosin ang militar, kapag ginawa pa nila ang ganyan ay ang panakot sa kanila ay madali naman daw na palitan sila ng mga nagugutom na istambay na kakalapin sa mga squatters at garbage pits gaya ng mga binayaran nila noong eleksyon para bumoto kay Bansot na binigyan pa ng health card na ang bayad ay galing sa OWWA fund na para sa mga OFWs! Unbelievable? Sa mga matinong bansa, yes, but not in present Philippines! Kaya itong mga sundalong pilipino ang labas parang mga tsimoy! Sundalong kanin labas pa ang tumbong!

    Kaya lahat gustong ma-assign sa ibang bansa, ang kaso nga kinikikilan naman sila ng mga swapang na nararangko mga hidhid gaya ni Garcia na yumaman sa kawalanghiyaan! Gosh, walang katapusang kabulastugan! Please, PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  81. men0k - July 9, 2006 5:15 pm

    Just a side info.. can you count how many ex-PNP officials and ex-AFP officials are now occupying Gov’t posts?… If you are a general now and you will be given a promise like a government position after you retire in echange for your ‘support’ to MIDGET’s bogus gov’t, what would you do?

    Let’s see where will Lomibao and Senga be after their retirement…

  82. men0k - July 9, 2006 5:19 pm

    but where is Gudani, Miranda, et al, now?..

    General Lim is even confined to his barracks for several months now with no cases filed against him…

    bakit ung mga sundalo natin ngaun parang walang mga isip at hindi nakikita ang mga pangyayari na ito?.. you don’t have to always follow the chain of command specially if the chain of command is not anymore acting with and for the people…

  83. Bentong - July 9, 2006 8:20 pm

    FLorry sorry muntik na kitang ma flush diko kita. Sorry to disappoint you na hindi ko amo ang nilalait ninyo. Don’t care kung magsabunutan kayo. The only thing I care is the repercussions this will bring to my countryman. Don’t want innocent people get caught in-between the bloodshed that will bring joy to those that wants to bring down the government. This will go on until WE(Filipino’s) ALL CHANGE including the wannabe’s..just like this never change..
    “PATALSIKIN NA, (NAME)..NOW NA!” the only thing that change were the names >Marcos, Cory, FVR, Erap, Gloria at marami pang iba.

  84. lakay - July 9, 2006 9:25 pm

    Parang basketball game. If you want to win, ilabas mo ang player na nagsasabog at palitan ng another one. Ang coach na magaling dapat objective at palit lang nang palit hanggang sa makuha ang right combination of players. In a way, sa present situation, tayo ang coach. Kaya hindi tayo nanalo, hindi tayo marunong mamili ng mga players. Worse, baliktad ang situation, tayo ang hawak ng players. Kaya, tayo, ang coach, ay ngawa lang nang ngawa at mawalang magawa. Wala nga ba?

  85. florry - July 10, 2006 1:19 am

    Bentong, Paano mo ako miiflush hindi naman ako pumupunta sa KUBETANG pinupuntahan mo. Soory ka na lang!

  86. Bentong - July 10, 2006 10:36 am

    Break Muna…

    While walking down the street one day a Senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

    “Welcome to heaven,” says St. Peter. “Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we’re not sure what to do with you.”

    “No problem, just let me in,” says the man.

    “Well, I’d like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we’ll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.”

    And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he is greeted by all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him in the past. They shake his hand and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.

    Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises… The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him. “Now it’s time to visit heaven.”

    So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and enjoy peace and harmony and love. But, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

    “Well, then, you’ve spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.”

    The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: “Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.”
    So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

    Now the doors of the elevator open and he’s in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above. The devil, now looking evil, comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder.

    “I don’t understand,” stammers the senator. “Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and we ate rich foods and expensive drinks, danced and had a great time. Now there’s just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?”
    The devil looks at him, smiles and says, “Yesterday we were campaigning. Today you voted.”

  87. Ellen - July 10, 2006 10:42 am

    Ok itong anecdote mo, Bentong.

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