Subic rape case fallout

US cancels military exercises with RP over rape case

By Veronica Uy
Agence France-Presse, INQUIRER.net

THE United States has cancelled its annual joint military exercises with the Philippines due to the continued detention of a US Marine convicted of rape, an embassy spokesman said Friday.

“The custody issue is at the heart of this,” embassy spokesman Matt Lussenhop told INQUIRER.net. “Due to the current custody issue (over the US Marine), the usual protection provided to US servicemembers is in doubt.”

“This is an expression of displeasure on their part and you can’t fault them for being displeased,” Justice Secretary Raul Gonzales told Inquirer.net in a phone interview.

Chief Presidential Legal Adviser Sergio Apostol said the US could be sending the message that Smith’s continued detention at the Makati City Jail was a disrespect of the VFA.

Senate defense committee chairman Rodolfo Biazon meanwhile said the US decision was a form of “arm-twisting” to force the Philippines to turn over the American.

The Court of Appeals on Tuesday threw out a petition by Lance Corporal Daniel Smith that he be transferred immediately to the custody of the US embassy while his conviction is under appeal.

Smith, 21, of St. Louis, was convicted on December 4 of raping a Filipino woman, identified in court as “Nicole”, and was sentenced to 40 years in prison. He has been detained at the Makati City jail.

Lussenhop said: “Until the government and the courts ensure the Philippines is in full compliance with the VFA (visiting forces agreement), it would not be prudent to bring additional US troops to the Philippines at this time.”

Asked to comment on the US’s pullout from the Balikatan 2007 exercises, Foreign Affairs spokesman Eduardo Malaya said: “The DFA has not yet been officially notified.”

There was no immediate reaction from Malacañang.

Armed Forces spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Bartolome Bacarro said they were leaving the matter to the Department of Foreign Affairs.

Asked if the cancellation of the joint military exercises could be done unilaterally, Lussenhop said: “I honestly don’t know about that.”

He said the cancellation of the field exercises was announced by Admiral William Fallon, commander of the US Pacific Command.

Smith’s lawyers, the US Embassy and the Philippine departments of justice and foreign affairs have all said the American Marine’s current detention violates the VFA, which covers the presence of US troops in the Philippines.

A provision in the agreement says any accused American serviceman shall remain in US custody until all judicial proceedings are exhausted.

But regional trial court Judge Benjamin Pozon, who heard the case, said the provision applies only during “the judicial proceedings in the trial court” and expires upon a defendant’s conviction, regardless of a pending appeal.

Lussenhop said that the United States had “no plans” to cut military aid to the Philippines or pull out any additional US troops.

Balikatan is the largest US military exercise held in the Philippines each year, involving as many as 5,000 American soldiers.

At least one round of joint exercises between Filipino and US troops has been planned in February, said a military official who coordinated past war games.

The Field Training Exercises was set to be held at Fort Magsaysay in Laur town, Nueva Ecija province, Crow Valley in Capas town, Tarlac province, and the Marine Base in Ternate town, Cavite province, said the official, who asked not to be named.

The case of the Filipina raped by the US Marine has sparked street protests and revived anti-American sentiment in this former US colony.

December 22, 2006 8:45 pm   Posted in: General

470 Responses

  1. chi - December 22, 2006 9:37 pm

    To the Court of Appeals..hephep, hurray.hephep hurray!
    For ordinary Pinoys, the CA not giving up on Glueria and Uncle Sam’s pressure is a victory!

    For Glueria Ulupong, this could mean Dubya’s total displeasure of her Munting Sidekick. It would be interesting to watch for Glueria’s maniobra to please her Boss. What will she be serving Bush this time to win back a meaningless tapik sa balikat?

    Buti nga na umalis na ang US troops sa Pinas, tingnan natin kung hanggang saan ang tapang ng Pidal woman na ito.

    The Ulupong’s world is getting smaller and smaller everyday!
    Soon, she’ll be back in her shithole! Hahah!!!

  2. crimsonESTRELLA - December 22, 2006 9:42 pm

    Kasinggulo ng mga basurang nakatambak sa mesa niya ang utak (kung mayrón man) ni ingkong Raul Gonzales. Sino ba ang may pinakamalaking pakinabang sa VFA at tadhanang pagsasanay–militar nito? Ang laway na ibinugang pa–itaas ay sa mukha ng dumura babagsak. Kanselahin, o rebokahin, man ng America ang VFA ay imperyalistikong–interes din nito ang unang–unang masasalanta… pati na ang sa administrasyong binebeybi–tyának nito.

  3. Chabeli - December 23, 2006 12:10 am

    I mentioned in a previous thread that this recent U.S. brouhaha-I hope I am not using the wrong word, but I look at the recent move of cancelling the Balikatan as some sort of “SANCTIONS” on the Philippines. There will be ramifications for this move. They know damn well that she pretty much controls the court here. I cannot accept that a mere Judge Pozon from a mere Regional Trial Court has wrecked havoc on the U.S.-Philippines relations ! And Gloria is not aware ? Tell that to the Marines ! This Woman has this persistent character of taking all sides on an issue. For instance, her War on Terror. On one hand, she says she fully supports the Coalition of the Willing, and in a blink of an eye, for a fellow-province mate, the TNT (Tago-Ng-Tago) Angelo dela Cruz is the cause of her back-peddaling. Even more recent her stand regarding Cha-Cha. First she is for it, then back-tracks, and then she’s back in again. This is sooooo Gloria ! GLORIA is NOT AN ECONOMIST, but a POLITICAL PROSTITUTE, WHO SLEEPS WITH ANYONE WHO CAN SATISFY HER NEEDS.

    Gloria will be able to manipulate the U.S. The Red, White & Blue is no PUSH OVER, AND WHEN THE U.S. BUSINESS, THEY MEAN IT.

    Let’s watch events unfold.

  4. Chabeli - December 23, 2006 12:15 am

    If the U.S. for a minute thought that Gloria was not behind Judge Pozon, then a move such as the cancellation of “…its annual joint military exercises with the Philippines due to the continued detention of a US Marine convicted of rape…” would be too harsh of a move. Obviously, they smell Gloria’s stench all over the decision of Judge Pozon ! Poor “Nicole”. The woman thinks she won a victory through Judge Pozon..this is all part of Gloria’s “Pretend-Prented”. Watch.

  5. joeseg - December 23, 2006 12:27 am

    The headline should be: US PULLOUT-Subic Rape Case Fallout.

    Certainly, Judge Pozon and the Court of Appeals justices should be commended for their valiant stand against pressures from the administration.

    Chi is correct in saying the world is getting smaller and smaller to the ulupong. Others might say shorter and shorter.

    I would like think ito na ang simula, start and beginning towards nearing end-game. Whether we like it or not, the cancellation of the military exercise will have a side effect on the US conglomerates here. What if they, too, pullout their interests? Watch out for the financial markets’ reaction. And the dollars’ flight!

    Ate Ellen, if you don’t have photoshop program, you can borrow the caricature from Malaya or Abante’s editorial from time to time. With the writing talents you got in your blog, it will surely elicit postings replete with action, drama to funny interpretations.

  6. Diego K. Guerrero - December 23, 2006 12:43 am

    Political prostitute Gloria Arroyo will show her true colors soon after the United States flexed its muscle to achieve Daniel Smith custody. Future US military and economic aid to the Philippines is tied with mutual defense treaty. The bankrupt Arroyo regime cannot afford to lost US military aid.

  7. ystakei - December 23, 2006 1:09 am

    There is that potential leader to prove that the Great Switik is not worth patronizing and being retained in that august hall by the murky Pasig river. Mabuhay ka, Judge Pozon! You’ve proven your patriotism to country and people!

    Time for Filipinos to prove that they are not a WHITE MAN’S BURDEN!

    So what if the Americans threaten to discontinue the military exercise that has proven to be not beneficial to Philippine interests as a matter of fact?! It is serving only the interests of the Great Switik and her fellow crooks.

    God willing, matatapos din iyan si Great Switik! PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  8. hawaiianguy - December 23, 2006 1:12 am

    The Subic rape case reminds us of the Okinawa case. There, the Japanese govt stood firm in its resolve to put a GI rapist behind bars, and Uncle Sam could not do anything. The problem with the Philippines is that, aside from being a weak state, national leaders are weaker and easily yield to a powerful country. They quickly surrender the nation’s sovereignty at the drop of a hat. Look at how top officials like Gonzales, Nachura and others who lawyer for Smith (Fr. J. Bernas also pointed this out.). Only in the Philippines!

  9. joeseg - December 23, 2006 1:34 am

    Tama si Chabeli, let’s watch events unfold. Let’s watch how Malacanang spin this latest event with all kinds of excuse and fingerpointing. But the public are already well-informed. It’s all of GMA’s undoings. Wala nang iba.

    That’s why in another thread, I wrote: Following Phil Cruz’ description of greed to arrogance in taking potshots against GMA and her minions, I will spell out the name of GLORIA as:

    G-reedy
    L-iar
    O-utrageous
    R-evolting
    I-neft
    A-rrogant

  10. chi - December 23, 2006 1:48 am

    I would like to believe that Judge Pozon is acting on his own good judgement and that he’s one of the very few independent thinkers in the judicial department. May pag-asa ang pinas habang meron natitirang katulad niya sa korte.

    Sorry folks, ang daming typo and minor errors sa posts ko, kasi ang nagluluto ako for a party tonight, tapos ay pasilip-silip ako sa blog. Nakakaadik itong blog mo Ellen. :).

  11. Diego K. Guerrero - December 23, 2006 2:08 am

    The corrupt Arroyo government is fighting with the communist insurgency, the Moro separatist and the Abu Sayaff Muslim radicals. The United States is involved in counterinsurgency war after end of Pacific war. The cancellation or decrease of US military and economic aid to the Philippines will hamper the counterinsurgency campaign and bogus President Gloria Arroyo cannot afford to lose it. The goal of Oplan Bantay Laya II is to end the insurgency by year 2010. The great pretender Gloria Arroyo will bow-out to Uncle Sam’s wishes.

  12. Elvira Sahara - December 23, 2006 4:08 am

    There’s somethin’ behind over this Smith brouhahaha! What this Evil Woman from Malakanyang is apt to…we better watch out! Funny, it’s Christmas but instead of watching for Santa Claus, we are vigilant on something…..and we must!!!
    Instead of waiting for Santa, we’re waiting for SATANAS coming from Malakanyang!

  13. apoy - December 23, 2006 5:16 am

    I was waiting for Npongco on his post for I consider him an expert when it comes to American issues..What’s up with you Npongco? Tell us something about your uncle sam.Are the issues between you and some bloggers here still searing your head?

  14. Robert V. Maich - December 23, 2006 6:00 am

    side remark lang ito.

    dapat magalit ang mga Pinoy
    sa Kano tungkol kay Marcos.
    Iniligtas nila (hindi kinidnap)
    si Marcos at buong angkan niya
    from patriotic Filipinos.

    Kung hindi sila inakay, isinakay
    sa helicopter, tapos na ang problema
    ng Pinoy sa mga Marcos. Yari silang
    lahat nasa gate na Malakanyang ang
    mga hardcore victims ng Martial
    LaW. NAKITA BA NINYO SA TV ang
    nangyari ng mapasok ang Malacanang.
    Sayang, baka sina Borgy at mga
    Aranetang dugong Marcos wala na rin
    ngayon.

    hindi ako magtataka kung bakit
    maraming patriot bloggers ang
    galit sa Kano. Baka Ulitin nila
    yan sa pamilya ni Goria. HAWAII
    here we come again criminals from
    the Philippines.

  15. Robert V. Maich - December 23, 2006 6:04 am

    From Malaya Online Dec 23, 2006

    Senate proud of its
    defense of Constitution

    “Naging mainit po itong taon na 2006 at marami po ang nangyari. Sa Senado po naman, maipagmamalaki naming na talaga pong ginawa naming ang magagawa para maipagtanggol ang ating saligang batas at (nagawa) ang tungkulin na ibinigay ninyo po sa amin,” said Senate President Manuel Villar.

    He said the Senate stands proud for successfully defending the Constitution against the Palace-backed Charter change (Cha-cha) move with the House of Representatives as chief instigator.

    “Railroading a resolution to convene a Constituent Assembly (Con-Ass) to change the Constitution without the participation of this Upper Chamber was unconscionable. Even our people saw it for what it was, and they have spoken against it,” Villar said in his year-end address to fellow senators.

    THIS IS THE TRAGEDY OF THE PHILIPPINE SENATE. THEY THOUGHT THEY HAVE DONE ENOUGH TO THWART THE CON-ASS OF THE LOWER
    HOUSE OF ILL-REPUTE. IF THE PEOPLE DID NOT COME OUT WITH THE PLANNED MASSIVE RALLY, THE SENATE WILL BE AS INUTIL AS CAN
    BE. TAKBO SA SUPREME COURT NA HAWAK DIN NI GLORIA. CHIEF JUSTICE PUNO VOTED FOR GLORIA
    IN THE PEOPLE’S INITIATIVE USING GLORIA’S
    WAY OF LYING.

    DAPAT PASALAMAT SI VILLAR NAWALAN NG
    BATERYA ANG DILDO NI GLORIA, AT UMAKYAT
    SA TENGA NIYA ANG BAYAG NI DE VENECIA.
    KUNG HINDI PARANG NAULIT YUNG CANVASSING
    NOONG May 2004. ATAT NA ATAT NA NANUNOOD
    NG TRIPLE X ANG MGA SENADOR. PAGKATAPOS NAMAN PINAYAGAN SILANG MAKAHALIK AT
    MAKASAMYO SA NATITIRANG BANGO NG
    GINAHASANG BAYAN NILA. OY MGA BAYANI SA
    SENADO, MAG PARTY KAYO TULAD NI EMPEROR
    AT KUMBIDAHIN NINYO ANG INYONG DIOSA.

    NOW VILLAR SHOUTS THEY ARE HEROES.
    WAIT UNTIL THE SENATE IS FINALLY ABOLISHED
    WITH VILLAR, SHARON PANGILINAN, VILMA RECTO, JOCJOC ARROYO, DEAF-SANTIAGO
    AS NEW MEMBERS OF THE UNICAMERAL
    CADAVERS OF GLORIA.

    NOONG 2004 BILANGAN NG DAYANG BOTO
    NI GLORIA DAPAT INUPAKAN NG SUNTOK
    NI PIMENTEL SI GUNGONG GONZALEZ,
    INUPAKAN NG SUNTOK NI ESCUDERO SI
    SHARON PANGILINAN. DAPAT NAGSUNTUNKAN
    NA LANG PARA MATIGIL ANG PANGGAGAHASA
    SA MOTEL NG SENADO. MAS MARANGAL ANG
    MGA TAGA CONGRESO NG TAIWAN, BINUBUNTAL
    NILA ANG MGA WALANG HIYANG KASAMA NILA.

    SI PIMENTEL WALA SA DUMI NG KALINGKINAN NI
    CLARO RECTO AT LORENZO TANADA. SI JOCJOC
    ARROYO PEKENG HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER.

    MALAPIT NG ILIBING NI GLORIA ANG SENADO.
    KAWAWANG MGA SENADOR KUTSARA AT
    TINIDOR LANG ANG PANGHUKAY NG
    SUPREME COURT SA BANGKAY NG MGA
    INUTIL NA SENADOR. SISINGAW ANG
    RIGOR MORTIS NILA SA BUONG ASYA.

  16. Robert V. Maich - December 23, 2006 6:17 am

    ANG DAMING GENTLEMEN RAPISTS
    MAY MGA BABAE PA SA ATING
    CONGRESO, PERO SI JALOSJOS
    LANG NA ISANG BABAE AT HINDI
    BANSA ANG GINAHASA ANG SIYA
    LAMANG MINALAS NA NAKULONG.

    SOMEBODY SHOULD SEARCH FOR
    A FREUDIAN EXPLANATION TO THIS
    CANINE LIBIDO OF PINOY POLITICOS.

  17. GodSaveDConstitution - December 23, 2006 6:24 am

    Hi Ellen,
    This is Dean at Philippine Commentary. I finally got a successful registration into your blog. And here I thought I was a Rocket Scientist. Who knows maybe you blacklisted me from your Comment Thread, but I seriously doubt that, since you’re not THAT sort. Even Devil’s advocates are welcome here, no?

    We are sort of classmates in the blogosphere having started our blogs about the same time in 2005. Our class is proud of you and what you have accomplished–the establishment of a MEME called ellentordesillas–an infectious idea that has a life of its own beyond you and and your readers/collaborators.

    Merry Christmas to one and all!

  18. TonGuE-tWisTeD - December 23, 2006 6:33 am

    Ano pa ang aasahan ninyo sa mga rapists? E di papanig sa kapwa rapists!

    Ngayon, ipinamumukha na ng mga Kano ang utang na loob natin sa kanila, binibilangan na tayo. Pati na mga sundalong Kanong tumutulong sa Milenyo/Reming/Seniang victims, ipinull-out na! Walang balikatan, ibig sabihin, walang bagong (segundamano?) mga armas, helicopter, trak o kagamitang ililimos sa AFP. Mawawala rin ang ginagastos ng mga sundalong mahigit 50 milyong piso kada buwan ($1000 x 1000 soldiers x P50/$).

    Hindi pa nagkasya sa panghihimasok sa sistemang legal ng bansa, pati ba naman bantay sa bilangguan, mga US Marines pa! Nakakainis na habang ang mga Pinoy na preso, isang pritong kanduli at masabaw na munggo lang ang kinakain, itong si Smith nagpapakabusog sa steak at salad. Pagkatapos deadma lang sa gobyerno.

    Matinding laban ito para kay Judge Pozon. Lahat na ng nasa itaas niya, kumampi na sa kapwa rapist, siya na lang ang hindi bumibigay.

    Kakatuwang tignan na ang isang malakas na bansa ay yuyukod lamang pala sa isang pangkaraniwang huwes na nasa tamang katwiran.

  19. cocoy - December 23, 2006 7:40 am

    I agree with you about the U.S. Sanction, Angelo De La Cruz scenario and Nicole half-baked victory, Dela Cruz tarnished the image of the Philippines with the U.S.
    U.S. Interest as of now to the Philippines is to gain custody of Smith. U.S. will do it by hook or by crooked..If you all remember how they rescue Jessica Lynce. Think about it?The U. S .Marine Corps motto is “SIMFER FIDELIS” look it up what does it mean.U.S.MARINES they don’t leave any man behind. They don’t care if they will sacrifice the whole unit as long as they can rescue one man.
    About Nicole half-baked victory.I am saving my comment until the court have spoken,The Judge
    rendered the decision upon the evidence presented in court. Now, I’m going to give my personal opinion not on the case but to a reality. The reality is this: If Nicole just filed a civil case asking for moral,physical and emotional damages she might enjoying the dough of victory.In Civil case she might get a bountiful cash of out court settlement.In my opinion the U.S.will be willing to give her what she is asking for just to cooled-off the issue.Accept the fact Smith could not keep his Zipper because he got another gun to fire too,Nicole was in the wrong place at the wrong time and she don’t keep her vurnability.Nicole must be enjoying looking for a time on a Rolex watch on her wrist if she went the other way.Yes,she was degraded,shamed but what kind of life lay ahead of her.You think those people sympatethic to her care.No,they just want to ride on the issue.
    Smith is incercarated but,can the prison in the Philippines provided him a clean linings, bacon and ham on breakfast?. Don’t be offended if the U.S.EMBASSY provided him all this basic needs,He’s not only a U.S.CITIZEN.He’s an extraordinary being in the Marine.You maybe all, all crying foul and don’t agree with me,but the reality is the U.S. Look upon his people.They won’t hesitate to declare war just to get their son. Philippine has a lot of stakes to lost.

  20. chi - December 23, 2006 7:44 am

    Haharanahin daw ng Christmas Carols ng mga pinay si Smith. Ang tindi ng colonial mentality ng mga babaeng pinay na ito. OK lang sa kanila na reypin ang kapwa pinay nila. Pinagtatanggol ang rapist dahil Amerikano.

    Mauunawaan ko ang bias ng Jesuit priest Reuter dahil Kano siya, kahit kontra ako sa kanyang pahiwatig na na-seduced lang ni Nicole si Smith. Pero itong mga pinay na ito, ipinagkakanulo ang sarili nilang kapatid! Kakahiya kayo!

    *****

    National (as of 4:32 AM), ABS-CBN Interactive, 12/22/06

    Christmas gifts, carols for jailed Marine

    By Michael Punongbayan

    Supporters of Lance Corporal Daniel Smith, the 21-year-old US Marine found guilty of raping a 23-year-old Filipina, will sing Christmas carols for the American soldier on Tuesday outside the gates of the Makati City Jail.

    Members of the group Justice for Daniel Smith (JDS) said they would bring him gifts and sing hymns that they hope he would hear from the stockroom of the jail facility where he is detained.

    Click here for the rest of the story.

  21. Spartan - December 23, 2006 8:14 am

    SO WHAT!!! MGA KANUTO YAN…eh di kanselahin nila, at itong si siRAULo gonzales, nananakot pa na pati “daw mga tulong” ng mga kanuto duon sa mga tinamaan ng kalamidad tulad sa Bicol ay maaapektuhan….GAGO!!! Bakit kailangan iasa sa mga kanuto ang pagtulong duon? At tumulong man ang mga kanuto na ito, kailangan ba na KAHIT BINABABOY NA NG ISA NILANG “ISTUPIDO AT MAKATING” SUNDALO ANG SARILI NATING KABABAYAN AY MAGKIBIT BALIKAT NA LAMANG TAYO??? This latest “stupid action” of this americans in connection with the “Subic Fiasco” is one “knuckle-head move” by GWBush’s “foreign policy makers”. Kung ako ang namumuno sa Pilipinas, ayaw nilang makipag”Balikatan”? Then, I think it’s about time we make a “serious talk” with Mainland China about our “regional security”. Ano ba ang “naibigay na sa atin” ng bansang amerika simula pa nuong matapos ang pananakop ng mga Kastila sa atin? History 101, matapos umalis ang mga Kastila, sila naman ang “nagsilbing mananakop” sa atin. Bagaman at nasa proseso na “raw” tayo ng independensya bago sumiklab ang Ikalawang Digmaang Pandaigdig, binigyan “daw nila” tayo ng “kalayaan” nuong matapos ang digmaan, pero patuloy pa rin nilang “dinidiktahan” ang ating “pansarili at panlabas na polisiya”, which was so “strong” until the time of Marcos. Medyo “nag-low-profile” sila ng pagdikta ng mawala sa poder si “Angko”, pero ng si “el tabako” na ang maupo, medyo bumalik ito…ng si Erap ay maupo, na isa sa mga malakas na Senador nuon na “nagpasara” sa mga base militar ng kano sa atin, medyo “kinabahan” sila, in fact there was a common belief among the US politicians that Erap has a “strong anti-american policy sentiments”…kaya “tuwang-tuwa” ang mga kanuto ng si gloria na isang “puppet” ni GWBush ang ngayon ay nasa puwesto. Kaya lang, Judge Pozon is proof that a “blowing wind of change” with regards to the Filipinos mentality of “sunod-sunuran sa mga kano” is becoming stronger. Sa ginagawa ng mga “diplomatikong” kano na andyan sa ating bansa kaugnay sa isyu nitong “convicted rapist” (although his appealing) na si l/C Daniel Smith, masasabi ko lang na “wala rin palang delikadeza” tulad ni gloria ang mga ito…”birds of same feathers” talaga ang pangkat ng mga republicans na ito at si gloria. :-x

  22. Spartan - December 23, 2006 8:27 am

    Right now, GWBush’s foreign policy makers are just proving that America is the “bully” of the world.

  23. zenzennai - December 23, 2006 9:36 am

    salamat, ‘Merika, salamat.

    Maraming salamat sa pagkansela mo ng joint military exercises, na walang idinulot sa mamamayang Filipino kundi panggagahasa ng iyong tropa sa aming mga kababaihan at patuloy na patayan sa kanyang kapwa na siyang natutunan ng aming mga sundalo, mula sa inyo.

    Kanselahin na rin po ninyo ang sa susunod na taon at tuluyan na ang ganitong policy.

    Hamon ko sa ating mga kababayan, umpisahan na ang neutral o non-aligned policy pagdating sa usaping seguridad. Kaibigan ang lahat, ‘Merkano man o Tsino o NoKor o Ruso, o sa kahit na sinong naghahangad na maging superpower. Huwag umasa sa kanila, dahil sa sandaling ikiling mo ang ilong sa isang panig, nagiging target ka naman ng kabila.

    Ang India, Switzerland, Brazil atbp., ay ganito ang kalakaran, bakit kailangan natin sunod-sunuran sa isang pulis-patola?

    Sa wakas, may maganda ring naisip itong si Dubya.

    Kung si Judge Pozon man ang dahilan (malapit, pero hindi lang ito ang buong kuwento), salamat sa inyo, Judge. Iginawad lang naman ninyo ang nararapat para sa isang rapist, di ba? Binabati ko kayo sa inyong desisyon.

  24. cocoy - December 23, 2006 9:40 am

    Spartan:
    The U.S. in not bullying no one. They become the most dominant superpower in the world because the people binding together to build it’s empire. In America the Federal Government function smoothly, No corruption ,no read tapes and bureaucracy. People is independently free.

    Every citizen is law-abiding. Everyone pay the right tax with no exception. American has shame.
    Nixon resigned because of the Watergate scandals. He not only look for his own interest but, the interest of American generation. Here every citizen are equal under the law.

    Before you start cursing, look at the environment surrounds you. Can you be proud of your country, your leader and the economy. If your answer is yes. I don’t have no argument. I dissent your opinion if your answer is no.

    Switching allegiance to China is not a possibility. China is like a swallow river, they talk loud but they have a hallow voice, U.S. ignored their calling. See what happen to North Korea when they fire a testing missile, U.S. clipped there wings, Now, they’re asleep.

    Before you gain respect from other country, you must have your sovereign respect. Do you think there is another country in the world respect the Philippines. You send your mother and daughter to another country to work as a maid. Now what economy can you depend on.All of Juan Dela Cruz money is in Jose Pidal coffers.Wake up and help fight corruption..

  25. apoy - December 23, 2006 10:07 am

    visiting forces agreement? these americans dont understand their own language!! visiting is visiting..they can visit smith in jail anytime, anyday…anymore??
    case closed!!

  26. Ellen - December 23, 2006 11:59 am

    Nice to hear from you agan, Dean. Sometime ago, my adminstrator upgraded this blog which required a new registration of all visitors.

    Ngayon ka lang nag-paregister ulit. That shows that you have been away for quite a long, long time. I always visit you blog. I learn a lot from your intelligent postings.

    What’s MEME?
    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

  27. Mrivera - December 23, 2006 1:16 pm

    panahon na upang maintindihan ng mga pulpol na nasa poder na dapat na nilang harapin ang kanilang tungkulin at pananagutan sa bayan! nasanay silang iniaasa sa kapitbahay ang pagsasaayos ng sariling tahanan habang kampante silang nakaupo at nanood lamang!

  28. Mrivera - December 23, 2006 1:22 pm

    mga kasama, huwag tayong humusga ng malawakan! tandaan nating ang lahat ng pananagutan ay nagsisimula at nagtatapos sa namumuno. kung maganda ang halimbawa ng isang pamunuan, magiging mahusay ang daloy ng sunuran sa pamayanan at gagampanan ng bawat isa ang kani kaniyang bahagi sa lipunan.

    sa kasalukuyang pinakabulok na administrasyon, ano ang aasahan natin? kung manonood lamang tayo at hindi kikilos sa anumang paraan, lalong walang magiging magandang bukas ang sa atin ay naghihintay!

  29. cocoy - December 23, 2006 1:44 pm

    Mrivera:

    You hit the bulls eye. It’s about time to wake-up and smell the coffee. Everyone must involve to share it’s part in reviving the rotten bureaucracy. Cut the red tapes in government agency. Educate our youth so that they can compete globally.

    You know what I am smelling, Don’t get me wrong. That Smith scenario was already baked in the oven. They are only waiting for Judge Pozon to serve it with the Right Price.When Smith is gone, Judge Pozon will move on his Mansion with a backyard swimming pool.The Judge is playing a Poker Game right now. His Ace is about ready to draw.

  30. apoy - December 23, 2006 2:08 pm

    kaya pala Tatlong Alas lang ang ginawa ng mga Lapid dahil pang-apat si judge Pozon..hmmm..
    Maam Ellen,
    You’re asking about MeMe? Maraming ibig sabihin nyon..Yun ang tunog ng kambing.Pwede ring lullaby. As in, me- me nah
    Bansot!

  31. Ellen - December 23, 2006 2:39 pm

    Judge Pozon has a reputation of integrity.

  32. cocoy - December 23, 2006 2:49 pm

    Ellen:
    I HOPE SO,but for how long he can handle the pressure.

  33. parasabayan - December 23, 2006 3:28 pm

    Cocoy, you read my mind about Pozon. It seems like at the right price everything is possible. Even the Supreme Court justices are not exempt from this. Look at Davide? The tiyanak is just building some kind of momentum on this case. May konting drama muna para hindi masyadong halata. I just hope though that Pozon will not cave in. He has a daughter too and he has to be very careful with what he does. The Filipinos may be subservient but they are not stupid! If one commits blunder( and plunder), they sure remember and for a looooooooong time! This case may yet again the straw that would break the camels back! Tiyanak has already over burdened the Filipinos with her flip flops. This may be her final one!

  34. GodSaveDConstitution - December 23, 2006 4:55 pm

    Ellen,

    Best to google on MEME–it’s kind of a long compliment.

    But on the rape case, your commenter is perceptive that there is a bit of political theatre being put on for the benefit of those inflamed by the usual feelings that Americans and Filipinos are not treated EQUALLY by the VFA. It certainly “unequal” that a convicted American rapist should be able to stay in the luxurious US Embassy rather than Bilibid Prison with the rest of the Filipino convicts. As for Nicole, there is also however a grave inequality being done to her by the VFA. You see, since November 1, 2005, when she was evidently raped by Daniel Smith, the National Statistics and Coordination Board reports that some 3000 Pinays have already been raped by Pinoys, many of them their fathers, uncles, brothers or cousins and neighbors. But NONE of them, to my knowledge has gotten the degree of justice that Nicole, because of that God-awful, unequal VFA with its insane insistence on “Justice delayed is justice denied”. When Leo Echegarray was executed, his crime was already 14 yerars old!

    We should demonstrate against the VFA for such unequal treatment of Nicole!

  35. ystakei - December 23, 2006 5:51 pm

    Ellen:

    I’m glad that there are still men in position in the Philippiines with honor and integrity like this Judge Pozon, who is untouchable as yet unlike those officers of the AFP who are now in jail for defying a bogus president.

    To the likes of Col.Querubin or Gen. Lim (Did I get his rank right?), et al, I take my hat off and give a salute. In time, they will be out of prison, and that is, if there are among the ranks of Judge Pozon who will continue to uphold the laws of the land that the Great Switik wants changed so she can do what she and her Fatso of a husband want. God willing, the time will be soon.

    As for the Americans, they should be told to learn how to respect likewise the laws of other lands regardless of any treaty they may try to impose on another sovereign country. If the Americans can respect Japanese laws and judicial system, why can they not do so re Philippine laws, and not make the VFA a reason for violating Philippine laws and criminal procedure.

    Don’t believe the idiot of an unconfirmed Secretary of Justice, because even with the US-Japan Joint Military Agreement, the Americans allow the Japanese judicial system to take over jurisdiction of cases involving US servicemen in Japan especially when their victims are civilians of Japan. This holds true in countries likewise where there are US military bases.

    I don’t know why Filipinos would even want to publish the BS of some announcement that can be construed as an insult to the mentality of the Filipinos given by some meddling staff of the US embassy.

    Judge Pozon may cite cases in Japan where offending US servicemen are given to the custody of the police and the court before and after indictment for proper criminal prosecution according to Japanese laws when the crime is committed in Japan regardless of whether the case is outside or inside the Philippine base and when the offending serviceman is on a furlough and not wearing any uniform.

    The Americans may as well remember that the Philippines is a sovereign nation even when it is presently headed by a bogus president, who should be kicked out as a matter of fact to make the Philippine position valid and legal. Any agreement with the US by this Great Switik should in fact be considered null and void! :-P

    Smith should not be turned over to the custody of the US Embassy while appealing his case first to the High Court (Mataas ng Hukuman/Dulungan ng Pilipinas) and then if he still insists that he should not be sent to prison despite the evidence of semen, etc. to prove that he has committed rape, to the Supreme Court (Kataas-taasang Hukuman/Dulungan ng Pilipinas).

    I am providing the tagalog translation of the two courts where the horny soldier can appeal his case to make the US Embassy staff and the idiotic Secretary of Justice Gongonzales understand that they cannot railroad the decision of the Philippine Court and provide the horny soldier an exceptional/special treatment and favor but treat him like any other criminal who has violated the laws of the Philippines even just to prove to the world that the Philippines is an independent nation/country and not still a vassal/territory of the US of A even when there are Filipinos brainwashed not to appreciate being free with the US helping crooks ready to lick the asses of the Americans getting elected even with what we now know as covert operations of the CIA, etc.

    This is not anti-Americanism. It is simply putting things in their right perspective. Like the Americans who got their independence from Great Britain, France, etc. 200 years ago, the Filipinos, too, have the right to be free and own to what God has in fact provided them with.

    Time for Filipinos to stop convincing themselves that they are America’s favorite, for the truth is they are called by the imperialists as “white man’s burdens.” Google this up in the web, and you get lots of references, even of articles written by famous writer, Charles Dickens, writing as Mark Twain on US imperialism from the late 19th century.

    No one is being deceived any longer by what my history professor used to harp about as “US altruism” equals “imperialism.” Time to wake up, and with this call, PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  36. Mrivera - December 23, 2006 6:20 pm

    kung ating lilimiin ang tunay na puno’t ugat ng rebelyon, hindi kailangan ang armas sa alinmang magkabilang panig (AFP-CPP/NDFNPA at/o AFP-MNLF-MILF) upang makahanap ng solusyon sa hidwaang pinalalala ng personal na interest ng mga namumuno (gloria-joma sison-nur misuari-eid kabalu)sa pakikialam ng magulong pinuno ng US. parang napakahirap para sa kanila ang ipamalas ang taimtim na pagkakasundo, pagkakaunawaan at pagtutulungan upang magkaroon ng maayos na ugnayan.

    kung ano ang pinag-usapan at pinagkaisahan nang harapan ay siyang dapat pairalin at igalang. walang sinumang tauhan na gagawa ng patraydor na hakbang na ikasisira ng kasunduan kung walang namumuno sa magkabilang panig na nag-uutos.

  37. Chabeli - December 23, 2006 6:33 pm

    Now, I’m confused..Pancho Villaraza of “The Firm” was apparently the one who “got” Judge Pozon into the RTC. So, Gloria and the Glorialets must have pressured Pancho to make Judge Pozon reverse his decision. Apparently, Judge Pozon does not bend the rules. After which, even the Court of Appeals refused to issue a TRO on the transfer of custody of Daniel Smith to the U.S. Embassy..maybe I’m just too cynical already when it comes to the Philippines. You mean it’s possible that Gloria did not know Judge Pozon would decide the way he did ? The Woman has the best 007 agents everywhere ! Hmmmm..my assessment could have been wrong then about Judge Pozon. I take Ms. Ellen’s word that “Judge Pozon has a reputation of integrity.” If this is so, then WOW PHILIPPINES, there are heroes still available here ! Thank God !

  38. ystakei - December 23, 2006 6:58 pm

    This should read: To the likes of Col.Querubin or Gen. Lim (Did I get his rank right?), et al, I take my hat off and give a salute. In time, they will be out of prison, and that is, if there are among THEIR RANKS THE LIKES OF Judge Pozon who will continue to uphold the laws of the land that the Great Switik wants changed so she can do what she and her Fatso of a husband want. God willing, THAT time will be soon.

  39. ystakei - December 23, 2006 7:19 pm

    Cancellation of the Balikatan in the Philippines where the Philippine government agrees to make Filipinos as guinea pigs for testing new US weapons on the pretext of quelling insurgency should be welcome by patriotic Filipinos. Buti nga walang naa-assassinate when Filipinos negotiate for such treaty as the VFA with the US. Sa Japan, madugo when they were negotiating for the US-Japan Military Pact. Ang daming namatay na mga opisyal at mga protesters, but it was worth the fight. Hindi puede ang mga ka-horny-han ng mga kano sa Japan!!!

    You bet, Hawaiianguy, the US does not meddle in the implementation of Japanese Criminal Laws. I, myself, have interpreted for US servicemen caught violating Japanese laws. I have interpreted for them, who have committed rape. The US military here has its own legal advisers who are allowed to observe criminal proceedings but not meddle in the police investigations and court trials. In most cases, offending US personnel are even advised not to appeal their cases especially when evidences are intact and cannot be denied.

    Ang hirap kasi sa Pilipinas, ni walang police investigation like the kind of investigations police in Japan do complete with interpreters, and the Minister of Justice not siding with any US criminal but leave matters to the court to decide on such cases so that justice and truth may prevail. E kundi ba naman lokoloko iyong Justice Secretary, e siya pa ang unang-unang kumakampi sa kriminal at nagko-condemn sa kapwa niya pilipino. Gosh, kundi ba naman sira ang ulo, e bakit iyong biktima ang binabatikos ng bobong iyan? Ang sarap batohin ng takla e!

    Iyong mga alembong naman na pinay na inuutusang magharana sa malibog na kano, I wonder how much bribe they have received to act as stupidly as they plan to do! Akala siguro bibigyan sila ng US Embassy ng visa para sa Tate, ano? Pambihira rin ano?

    PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  40. ystakei - December 23, 2006 7:22 pm

    Bilib ka rin sa mga pinoy, ano? Kriminal na VIP treatment pa! May harana pa raw! ‘Tado rin ano?

  41. chi - December 23, 2006 9:42 pm

    Chabeli,

    It has always been my hunch that Judge Pozon is one of the very few good justices we have. Hindi mabibili ni Glueria lahat ang tao kasi ang iba ay may yagballs, heheh.

    Besides, it is very apparent that the fake president has no more clout or losing her clout with the justices of the court every passing days.

    As I said, Glueria’s world is becoming smaller and smaller everyday. Sabi naman ni joeseg, ay shorter and shorter.

    Merry Christmas to all Cyberwarriors!

  42. Mrivera - December 23, 2006 10:01 pm

    akala n’yo sina bayani agbayani, bayani fernando at hero bautista lang ang mga “buhay na bayani” sa pilipinas, ano?

  43. Mrivera - December 23, 2006 10:48 pm

    a cut from rey arcilla’s column in malaya:

    23/12/2006

    Gonzales is off-tangent
    on Pozon

    ——————————————————————————–

    There he goes again, shooting his mouth off, uttering uncalled for smart-alecky remarks unbecoming of a person in his position.

    I refer to our pathetic Justice Secretary Raul Gonzales who accused Judge Benjamin Pozon of “interpreting the provisions of the VFA in order to suit his agenda.”

    He said Judge Pozon was “sympathetic to Nicole and leftist group.”

    And who, may I ask, is the honorable(?) secretary sympathetic to?

    As a Filipino, and justice secretary at that, shouldn’t he be sympathetic to Nicole, the victim and not foreigner found guilty of raping her?

    Then Gonzales adds: “I think his (Pozon’s) agenda is to please the Left. Maybe he thinks that by doing so, he would be praised and would get the kudos and hosannas of certain sectors. He’s sympathetic to the victim. He’s sympathetic to those who support the victim, and who are those supporting the victim?

    I have news for Gonzales. The majority of the Filipinos are sympathetic to the victim, Nicole.

    ***

    Not everyone who speaks against iniquitous arrangements with the United States or any Western power is a leftist. Has it ever occurred to Gonzales and others like him that they could be patriotic Filipinos who love their own people and country above others?

    Even if they are leftists, at least they are Filipinos who most certainly love the Philippines more than the Americans or other foreigners do.

    What does that make of Gonzales and others like him in government and elsewhere, who would take the side of foreigners over their own countrymen? In certain situations, they would be called traitors.

    ***

    (………)

  44. GodSaveDConstitution - December 23, 2006 11:28 pm

    Ellen,

    I’m concerned because much of what I’ve read here today on your Comment thread is really quite undignified and does not represent the true Filipino character, in my humble opinion. So much of it is mean-spirited and ignoble. I don’t think 99.9995% of the Filipinos think or feel like this at all.

    Nicole has gotten far more justice than her 3000 classmates and fellow rape victims ever will. Because of the VFA. Americans–4 million of whom are also of Filipino extraction–and responsible for most of OFW remittances, detest, punish and condemn rape far more than Filipinos in the Archipelago, who seem to tolerate it, or won’t punish it as long as it is Pinoys doing it to Pinays! A good fraction of the informal jury of the people still have doubts of Daniel’s Smith’s actual guilt. By the way, he has not yet lost the presumption of innocence — ask any lawyer– to me that means the “judicial proceedings are not over.

    Many here disdain JDV and the House Majority for changing the Rules in the middle of the game to get Con-Ass. Yet isn’t that what many here want us to do with VFA?

    But okay, to substantial arguments…

    Equal protection under the Constitutions of the US and the Philippines are entirely equivalent in concept. In practice it is always a problem.

    But every govt has an obligation to uphold the rights of its citizens. Just because the Philippine govt does not usually do so, is an invalid reason to demand that the US govt do the same.

    But let me make it more concrete.

    Filipinos consider mutilation of one’s penis to be an inhumane punishment, even for rape. Likewise, we find it abhorrent that in many Muslim societies they stone women adulterers to death (but not men adulterers).

    Suppose we decide to help out Darfur (Sudan) or Somalia by offering to send humanitarian forces there, like doctors and nurses. I would certainly find it reasonable for the Philippine govt to want guarantees from the UN that any Pinay nurses caught cavorting with Somalis or Sudanese not their husbands and reported to Somali or Sudanese authorities as “unholy women” are not subjected to some of the local laws and customs.

    Now, since Pinoys also do rapes at an average rate of seven a day (three of them just since I registered this morning) it is not inconceivable that one of those Pinoy doctors commits rape. Are we actually forced to accept the Sudanese and Somali practice of stoning women adulterers, chopping off limbs of pickpockets and robbers, in order that we shall respect their sovereignty, especially AFTER they may have agreed to exempt us from those customs and laws? Would it be immoral and an act of treating the Sudanese and Somalis unequally for us to demand a level of humanity WE are accustomed to, and negotiate for an Agreement with them to address this. Or would we be imperialistic in doing so?

    I think, one day, the shoe will be on the other foot. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. But we are lost without moral consistency to guide us in all things and not treat everything like a spectator sport in a game between nations.

    Else, we shall never have self-respect. Only cold, hollow ideology.

    God Save the Constitution!

  45. Chabeli - December 23, 2006 11:42 pm

    Chi,
    Thanks for your reply. Your comments are appreciated. Once again, wishing you a Happy Christmas !
    ******************
    GodSaveDConstitution,
    You have very interesting comments. Only if you’d like to answer, of course, but I’m curious, what you meant exactly when you said that “A good fraction of the informal jury of the people still have doubts of Daniel’s Smith’s actual guilt.”

  46. GodSaveDConstitution - December 24, 2006 12:00 am

    Chabelli,
    Just take a poll of people you know (but not on this thread!)–betcha a good fraction of them side with Smith. Some because this really does not look like a Maggie de la Riva type rape (which burned in my young mind that Rape is Evil, especially when that nice young man basilio pineda had all his hair shorn off and sparks went into his brain). Some call it a “date rape.” Betcha he gets marriage proposals and offers of adoption or help. Betcha the tindera outside the Makati City Jail who brings him free food every day doesn’t think him guilty. She’d marry him in a flash, bless her sweet heart.

    Now I do think he’s been convicted, properly and justly, by the “First House” of the Judiciary. (In fact, I think he IS guilty of rape, but not brutal or really really monstrous rape). But you see, the Judiciary, according to the Constitution, has more than One House. It has a Second House and even a Supreme House.

    Due process and the Constitution demand that all capital crimes shall be concurred upon by all the Houses of the Judiciary, which are the RTC, Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court whose jurisidiction over the case has never been questioned by the RP or the US, though I see people here are sometimes confused over “jurisdiction” and “custody”.

    No accused loses his presumption of innocence until final judgment is rendered by the competent court.

    But what some want to do is just what JDV and House Majority did: Just the First House and that’s it! Case closed. It’s not Con-Ass by Dan’s Ass, eh?

    If that was your son or daughter in a Somali or Sudanese jail, and a lynch mob of them on carabaos and bolos show up at his or her trial crying blood and demanding that the Visiting Filipinos Agreement they signed ten years ago is no good and unfair to THEM! Well what can I say but…

    God Save the Constitution!

  47. artsee - December 24, 2006 12:33 am

    Matindi ang paniniwala ko sa aral ni Confucious. Kung ano ang ayaw mong gawin sa iyo huwag mong gawin sa iba. Kaya itong si Smith ay dapat gahasain din ng mga manyakis na preso sa loob ng bilangguan. Tutal, nakakasiguro naman siya na hindi siya mabubuntis. Etong si Fr. Reuter “bias” palibhasa kasi Amerikano din. Dapat tumahimik na lang siya lalo pa’t isa siyang Pari. Kung sa bagay, maraming pari din ang rapists tulad ni Smith. Iyon mga humarana naman kay Smith, aba mga alembong at malandi ang mga iyan. Dahil ba isang Puti si Smith? Hindi dapat sila nagpakita ng suporta kay Smith dahil napatunayan na ang kasalanan niya. Imbes na sa sariling kababayang Pilipina sila kumampi doon pa sa isang manyakis na banyaga. Bakit hindi na lang si Erap at mga nakakulong na kawawang mga sundalo ang kanilang haranain itong Pasko?

  48. Chabeli - December 24, 2006 2:03 am

    Thanks for your reply, GodSaveDConstitution. Actually, the reason I was curious about your answer was because, as you had already mentioned, “Just take a poll of people you know (but not on this thread!)–betcha a good fraction of them side with Smith.” I actually have asked several friends of mine, and quite a number of them have expressed their doubts that Lance Corporal Daniel Smith was guilty of rape. In fact these very people I have spoken to about this issue feel that it was consensual sex.

    As I mentioned earlier, I remain confused..There remains to be unanswered questions on my mind:
    1) What was “Nicole” doing at a place like “Neptune” Bar ?
    2) Why did she agree to ride with these military men alone ?
    3) If my memory serves me right, she (or her family ?) owns a bar in Subic that is frequented by U.S. Service men. Wouldn’t she have had first-hand knowledge already, or even have an idea at least of what these U.S. Service men do or want when they unwind in her bar ?
    4) I remember that the first time “Nicole” came out shouting, “Rape”, she said that all the men in the van raped her. I took that to mean that she was gang raped. Why did she recant her earlier story and say that only one person “raped” her ?

  49. Robert V. Maich - December 24, 2006 2:56 am

    GodSaveDConstitution Says:

    December 23rd, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    Ellen,

    I’m concerned because much of what I’ve read here today on your Comment thread is really quite undignified and does not represent the true Filipino character, in my humble opinion. So much of it is mean-spirited and ignoble. I don’t think 99.9995% of the Filipinos think or feel like this at all.

  50. Robert V. Maich - December 24, 2006 3:14 am

    that was premature pressing
    of the submit button:

    it’s this way:

    GodSaveDConstitution Says:

    December 23rd, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    Ellen,

    I’m concerned because much of what I’ve read here today on your Comment thread is really quite undignified and does not represent the true Filipino character, in my humble opinion. So much of it is mean-spirited and ignoble. I don’t think 99.9995% of the Filipinos think or feel like this at all.

    SORRY TO DISAGREE, SO SORRY BECAUSE
    MANY ARE LIKELY TO BELIEVE THE
    STATEMENT. THE TRUE FILIPINO CHARACTER
    ARE NOT THOSE OF RIZAL AND HIS
    BARKADA WHO WENT TO EUROPE AND HAD BEEN
    HAILED AS HEROES.

    I AM MORE TO BELIEVE THAT 99.9995% OF
    THE TRUE FILIPINOS ARE REPRESENTED
    BY YOUR BLOGGERS. ONLY A FEW CULTURED,
    FROM GOOD RICH FAMILIES, FROM RELIGIOUS
    FAMILIES EDUCATED AT SECTARIAN UNIVERSITIES
    ARE CONTRIBUTORS TO YOUR BLOG. I CAN SMELL
    THEM FROM WHAT THEY SAY. ELLEN YOU BELONG TO THE 99.99% WHO BY HARD WORK AND EXCELLENCE
    HAD COME TO HAVE YOUR OWN BLOGSITE. THE VERY FEW ONES EASILY HAVE THEIR BLOG SITES OR WHATEVER TO PRESEVE THE GOOD BUT FALSE IMAGE OF THE FILIPINO. YOU ARE A RARE JEWEL ELLEN.

    JUST THE SAME — MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THE
    100.00% FILIPINO MEAN-SPIRITED, IGNOBLE
    OR UNDIGNIFIED AND THE CULTURED ONES
    LIKE DAVAO PEARLS, OR WHATEVER THEY ARE.

  51. kitamokitako - December 24, 2006 5:53 am

    MR. Robert Maich, i suggest you pls refrain from using ALL CAPS, because it makes it harder to read your post.

  52. ystakei - December 24, 2006 6:02 pm

    Tongue T:

    Iyan ang napapala ng mga palaging nagpapalimos. Over in Japan, we have a saying, “Nothing cheap is free.” One of the first things I was told by my Japanese uncle when I came to settle in Japan was never to depend on other people, and that beggars cannot be choosers!

    He told me of the homeless in Japan, who would not beg for alms unlike in the Philippines where you see a lot many people begging, and upsetting a lot of people like the tourists I used to take to the PHilippines who are not used to seeing for example those kids on the streets of Manila saying, “Palimos po kahit limang piso lang!”

    He said that the reason why they would not beg was because they did not want to be spat at by their benefactor. Puede ka kasing duraan kahit na plema!

    I can see the US soldiers in Japan having more respect for their Japanese hosts. Nabubugbog pa nga ang mga gunggong na sundalong kano kapag aasta ng hindi maganda sa mga hapon. Kaya bakit hindi iyan magawa ng mga pilipino sa mga abusadong mga horny na sundalong kano diyan?

    It is not anti-Americanism, mind you. It is anti-imperialism and anti-ugly American. Kahit nga mga Amerikano nahihiya sa mga bastos na kapwa nila mga Amerikano sa totoo lang.

    I belong to a church dominated by Americans as a matter of fact, but I have met the most humble and decent Americans in our church. Iba sa mga bastos, malibog at walang modong Amerikano, including iyong mga nagpapanggap na kano sila!

    Tuloy ang batikos sa mga gunggong na opisyal na pilipinong humahalik sa mga tumbong ng mga rapist na kano! BTW, kilala ang mga pilipino sa paggawa ng mga baril, bakit hindi nila na-develop ang kakayahan nila diyan kesa naman para silang mga pulubing laging umaasa sa awa ng mga kano?

    Ingat sa mga deceivers. Ang daming pangalan, pero iisang tao lang ang karamihan. Kunyari anti-Bansot pero in the long run, sasabihin hindi daw matatanggal si Bansot kasi suportado ng mga kano! Nang-insulto pa ng mga pinoy! ‘Tado din ano?

    PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  53. Robert V. Maich - December 24, 2006 8:05 pm

    kitamokitako Says:

    December 24th, 2006 at 5:53 am

    MR. Robert Maich, i suggest you pls refrain from using ALL CAPS, because it makes it harder to read your post.

    =====

    Thanks for the advice. will do.
    pag medio galit ako, at gustong
    sumigaw, capitals ang gamit ko.
    pag gusto kong ihiwalay ang say
    ko sa mga kino quote ko capitals
    ang gamit. aber balik na lang
    ako sa sentence style.

  54. mandirigma - December 25, 2006 1:43 am

    We can just imagine the pressure exerted on Judge Pozon in rendering that decision. May natitira pang mga matitinong judges na tulad niya. Mabuhay ka Judge Pozon! Hindi naman natin masisisi ang Amerika kung bakit ganoon na lang ang pagtanggol nila kay Smith. That’s just normal for a country to protect her own citizens. America knows who to bully. If the incident happened in a large and powerful country like Germany, France, Japan, China…the US would apply a different approach. Diyan natin nakikita kung paano tayo hawak sa leeg ng mga Kano. Tungkol naman sa kinalalaman ng Amerika sa patuloy na pag-upo sa kapangyarihan ni Emperadora Arroyo, may punto din naman iyan angulo. We can be against Arroyo but at the same time should accept the fact that her ouster would hasten if only the US lets her go. These are two different issues and we should deal with them separately. In the end, I agree it is still for us Filipinos to decide our ouwn fate and destiny.

  55. TonGuE-tWisTeD - December 25, 2006 4:42 am

    Yuko,
    Ang tunay na ibig sabihin ng kuwento ni Smith ay ganito. Lasing ako. Nakakita ako ng Pinay na lasing. Mukha namang palaban ang babae, bakit di testingin kung pwedeng tikman? Tutal nakikipagsayaw sa akin, siguro “paka__” ito! Sinamantala ko ang pagkalango ni babae at kinuntsaba ang mga kasamang sundalo na bago bumalik sa kampo, magpaparaos muna sa nadagit na “pokpok”, kaya lang wala nang oras para mag-motel, dito ko na lang sa van titirahin. Pwede ninyo pang panoorin. Kaya naman habang binabanatan ko, sigaw kayo ng “Go, Smith, go!”…Malas ko naman, ang bilis ko nakatapos. Okey na mga pare ko, ibaba nyo na ng van iyan. Tulog na tulog, di naman natin alam kung saan nakatira iyan. Huwag na ninyong bihisan, tutal wala nang maaalala iyan pag gising. Iwan na lang ninyo sa sidewalk. Bilisan ninyo baka hinahanap na tayo ni Commander.

    Pero ang gustong palabasin ng iba, yung kwento ng babae. Uy pogi yung mga Kano, kagaya ng boyfriend kong malapit ko nang mapangasawa. Makikipagsayaw ako, para matikman ko siya. Siguro mapapagkamalan niyang hostess ako sa mga bar dito. Hindi naman halatang graduate ako sa Ateneo de Davao. Tama, pag naseduce ko siya siguradong matitikman ko siya. Kahit saan payag ako, kahit sa sasakyan lang, kahit may nanonood na ibang tao. Payag rin ako, kahit na iwan lang nila ako sa kalyeng baliktad ang pantalon at puno ng semilya ang panty ko. Oo, yun nga ang gagawin ko.

    Sa parehong anggulo, imposibleng mangyari ang sinasabi ng ibang consensual sex ang nangyari. Kahit pa sinong demonyo, pag may nakatagpo kang babaeng payag sa gusto mong “tikiman”, kahit paano’y pahahalagahan mo pa rin ang kaayusan ng taong katatapos mo pa lang na kasalo sa makamunduhang pagpaparaos. di ba? Kung may pagkakasundo ang ginawa nilang “banatan”, dapat lang na ibinalik man lang si Nicole ni Smith kahit sa labas ng bar kung saan niya unang nakita. Pero iyong itapon ka sa kalsada sa isang eskandalosong itsura ay may pagpapahayag ng masamang intensiyon at masamang ginawa. Na hindi mo gagawin kahit sa isang putang binayaran mo ng pera. Gagawin mo lamang itong pambababoy dahil iyong ang tunay mong motibo sa una’t una.

    Sino’ng may hinalang mali ang desisyon ni Judge Pozon? Ipabasa ninyo ito!

  56. mandirigma - December 25, 2006 5:07 am

    Let’s not forget that even a prostitute can be a victim of rape. Nicole was a rape victim regardless of her background as alleged by the defendants.

  57. mandirigma - December 25, 2006 7:49 am

    The US is cancelling the military exercises because they will not get custody of this perverted rapist.
    They reason they can not ensure the safety of Military personel if they have to live up to the punishment of the crimes committed in the Philippines. Ano bang klaseng katuwiran iyan? Either the US Embassy thinks rape is okay and that Filipino women should be happy to be throwing themselves at US service men or they think the Filipino people are violent and stupid. Ano kaya kung ang mga sundalo natin ang pumunta sa Amerika at gahasain ang mga Amerikana? Ano kayang mangyayari?

    As usual, Uncle Sam thinks he is superior to everyone and
    nobody can compete; and if they try they will be squashed.
    Uncle Sam calls it “freedom” What a hypocrisy! If the US military wants to take their ball and go home because of
    one soldier paying the price of his crimes then fine. Let’s tax every American that steps foot on Philippine soil the equivalent of 20% on everything they buy. And for every American who marries a Filipino woman, let’s charge them a
    fee for processing the visa (around $5,000). If they think they can force themselves on the world they need to
    wake up. Panahon na dapat tayong tumayo sa sariling paa at huwag nang umasa sa Amerika. Pero ang tanong: Kaya ba natin?

  58. Ellen - December 25, 2006 9:04 am

    I will delete postings hostile to other visitors.

    I don’t want another personal fight breaking out here. Let’s respect each other’s views. If you don’t like it, ignore.

  59. GodSaveDConstitution - December 25, 2006 10:01 am

    ellen,
    First Merry Christmas and, Let us pray unceasingly for that is the sound of the Universe. And thanks for that warning. If I recall previous visits here, your thread can be the most exciting in the wild wild east. So I like the practice of addressing the “chair” at all times to minimize emotional outbursts.

    I hope my criticism that some of the comments are ignoble won’t be taken personally by anyone, as that is not the intention.

    Dapat sigurong banggitin ko na yaring mga pangungusap ay hindi nga anti-Amerikano, kundi anti-Pilipino, sapagkat ibinubunyag natin sa mundo na hindi pa natin batid ang pagkakaiba ng Hustisya sa Pulitika. Labis ang galit na hindi naman makatarungan.

    Two wrong don’t make a right.

    Mali yaong isa rito na ang akala ay ito ang buod ng Ginintuang Alituntunin: Na gawin sa iba ang ginawa nila sa atin!

    Malaking kabulastugan ito at ang mga naniniwala nito ay dapat mamundok kasama ng mga ibang tulisanes, o kaya ay kay GMA at JDV–sapagkat wala namang pagkakaiba ang budhi ng mga naniniwala nang ganiri.

    Ellen, I shall always respect you, as I respect my mother, sisters, daughters. But wrong ideas are wrong ideas, and the great ancestral hatreds are worst of all.

    The VFA and our two great Constitutions, our two great peoples, have brought justice to Nicole, not the Lynch Mob that urges that we show the worst in ourselves to prove our patriotism.

    There are virtues greater than nationalism. We must learn them or perish in our own passions!

    God save Christmas.
    God save the Constitution.

  60. mandirigma - December 25, 2006 10:40 am

    I’m reminded of “God Save the Queen”. Natandaan niyo pa ba iyan? Ang kaso ni Nicole ay hindi lang isang hamon sa ating hustisya kundi sa pamunuan ng bansa. Marami ang sumisigaw na kalimutan na ang Amerika at isa ako sa naniniwala na dapat na tayong bumitaw sa kanila. Pero kaya ba natin? If the US leaves us alone, where do we go? This is not the time to talk about pride and nationalism. Think about the many who would be affected if America leaves us. But of course we all know that she won’t leave us.

  61. Mrivera - December 25, 2006 1:56 pm

    hindi pababayaan ng US ang pilipinas dahil sa strategic location nito. ito ang dapat isaksak sa utak ng ating mga pulitiko! mas malaki ang mawawala sa US kapag binitiwan ang ating bansa.

  62. cocoy - December 25, 2006 3:26 pm

    Mrivera;
    I disagree with you in this.Berlin Wall had collapsed,Only U.S, fears before are the Reds,They’ew gone.U.S.Has compassion not only to Philippines but,the whole world.

  63. GodSaveDConstitution - December 25, 2006 5:22 pm

    Ellen,
    Mayroon kayang tao ritong wala naman sa loob ng van na iyon, na kayang sumumpa sa ulo ng kanyang nanay na alam niya ang mga nangyari talaga noong gabing iyon? Ngunit kung pakinggan natin ang ibang mga binitiw na pananalita ay mismong ina nila ay mapapahiya.

    Higit na mas mabagsik kasi ang mga MEME ni Renato Constantino at Jose Maria Sison na silang mga nagpupunyagi ng kahayupang budhi–budhing itinuro rin sa kanila ng mga Amerikanong kinaaway at nandigma. Tignan ninyo, dalawang Inglisero, rebolusyonaryo kuno, na hanggang ngayon, ay bumubulong sa loob ninyo. Ngunit magbasa at magrebisa ng pagiisip. Siyasatin ang mundo nang buo at buod. Maling-mali ang dalawang iyon, kahit na popular sa mga galit na gusto namang gumawa nang mabait.

    Truth and beauty go together. The ugliness of ignobility comes from an ugliness within, that was however, planted from without.

    SOVEREIGNTY IS COAT WORN BEST WITH STOIC HONOR AND DIGNITY!

    God Save the Constitution!

  64. Ellen - December 25, 2006 6:39 pm

    Dean, what I meant about comments hostile to others are comments that are personally insulting. I’m sure we all agree that we can all disagree with each other in a civilized manner.

    By all means, let’s have a vigorous, healthy exchange.That’s how we learn from each other.

  65. Mrivera - December 25, 2006 6:55 pm

    cocoy, irerespeto ko ang opinyon mo. maaaring na-generalize ko lang. ang dapat siguro na naging punto ko ay ang pamunuan ng US. pero anu’t ano man, sa maniwala ka o sa hindi, takot ang US na mawalan sila ng OP kung saan mamo-monitor nila ang galaw ng bawat papasok o lalabas sa pacific ocean at china sea. ito ang sinasabi kong strategic location ng pilipinas. kita mo nga, binasura na ang bases treaty noong 1991, diba? pero nagkaroon ng VFA.

    ang isa pa, ang isinasagawang balikatan exercises na dati ay sa fort magsaysay lamang ginaganap, pero bandang huli, nasaan na? doon mismo sa actual frontline? in the far southern philippines? nagpapalipad pa sila ng surveillance man-less aircraft. bakit?

  66. mandirigma - December 25, 2006 10:27 pm

    When foreign countries (you may call them invaders or conquerors) such as America enter other countries, they usually enter under disguise of introducing religion, humanitarian and medical missions, joint military exercises or whatever term they choose to describe to justify their presence. The world has witnessed such actions for centuries. Today, Asia where China and Japan are located can no longer be ignored. Asian countries comprise some of the most strategic territories in the world; and that include the Philippines as the above gentleman has mentioned. China has emerged as the new sun in the solar system of Asian nations. While China perfects a timeless art, American interests become vulnerable. Kaya dapat lang na ang maliliit na bansa sa Asia tulad ng Pilipinas ay baguhin na ang kanilang pakikitungo sa Amerika at mga dating mananakop na hanggang ngayon na bagama’t wala na ang mga sundalo nila ay patuloy pang humahawak sa mga maliliit na bansa na dati nilang sinakop. Dapat sumabay tayo sa agos ng tubig. Aminin na natin na lubhang malaki ang ipinagbago at ikinaunlad ng China. Why still depend on the West when we have our neighboring countries like China, Japan, Taiwan, India, Singapore that can help us economically and even militarily? Trades between China and ASEAN is increasing faster than anyone expected. It increased by 25% over the previous year. China is proving herself as an alternative to America as an ally. No one can deny Asia and China’s growing influence on America. Asia is slowly taking over US manufacturing, transportation, industry and commerce. However, sad to say, where is the Philippines on the Asian map? Gee, Vietnam has even outranked us today.

  67. Robert V. Maich - December 25, 2006 10:45 pm

    Ellen Says:

    December 25th, 2006 at 6:39 pm

    Dean, what I meant about comments hostile to others are comments that are personally insulting. I’m sure we all agree that we can all disagree with each other in a civilized manner.

    By all means, let’s have a vigorous, healthy exchange.That’s how we learn from each other.

    ==============

    ellen, yung huling posting ko yata ang
    tinanggal mo. nagkamali ako akala ko
    ako ang tinutukoy na maka-kano at bagong
    brigader. Nagbasa ako uli, iba yata
    dahil wala akong posting tungkol kay
    Nicole at mga Kano. Noon, Napakatagal
    na. Sana nagka PHd ako sa U of Austin T
    kung di ako rebelde sa kano. Tanggap
    na ako pero, dapat daw kumuha ako sa
    Pinas ng Toeffel, sabi ko sa admissions
    committee walang Pinoy na bumabagsak
    sa test of English Language. Kung gusto
    nila, pagdating ko sa Texas, doon ako kukuha
    ng test. ayon good bye sa scholarship.
    Kaya ang post grad ed at trng ko sa
    England at Australia. Di ako nakapagaral
    sa Merika. To have studied in England
    is to know the inner bowels of Americans
    from the viewpoints of Professors and
    classmates. Hindi tulad ng mga Ateneans
    do or die for Bernas and Reuters,
    hindi ako do or die for America.

    Ang tragedy ni Erap, hindi siya do or
    die Atenean, kanto boy siya mas preferred
    niya ang tumambay sa kanto kaysa maki
    pagparty sa mga ka antas niya sa buhay.
    Hindi yata collegiala ang hilig niya.
    Hindi yata katalo kasi mga kapatid ni
    Erap, socialite at collegiala. Ayon
    sinu ba ang yumari sa kanya, yun mga
    ka antas or kauri ng pamilya niya. sinu ba
    kapanig niya, yung mga toothless, ugly
    at unwashed na binuhay sa kultura ng
    kanto. May mga bloggers ka ellen na
    do or die not by choice, but by birth.
    Sila’y bilanggo lamang ng katotohanan
    kung saan sila sumilang at lumaki.
    Kaya sabi ko kaawaan kayo ng Diyos.
    Kasama ako doon dahil hindi rin ako
    do-or-die para sa eskuelang kung saan
    hinubog ang isipan ko.

    Oy Pasko pa rin ngayon. Maligayang
    Pasko.

  68. Robert V. Maich - December 26, 2006 4:05 am

    ay mali, dapat PhD at
    U of Texas at Austin, di
    kasi ako nakatungtung doon.
    kasi wala ding akong PhD.

  69. cocoy - December 26, 2006 8:21 am

    God save D Constitution
    I don’t want to make nemesis out of you. I want to gather you as my friend. I heard you loud and clear although, you don’t mentioned my name. Your roaring is ringing in my ear. My friend, I admired your thinking.

    I educate myself to compete because I don’t want to regret my defeat. I was a bench warmer at English 101 in Mariam class,I learned and my IQ increase 500%.I am fluent in tagalog.I also, speak Japanese.

    That guy in Netherlands we parted ideology. His path of destruction is beyond repair.He’s a vulture.

    Don’t let your outrage control your emotion. Look at the big picture. There is a big storm on the horizon that will create havoc on your direction. Don’t make that big guy at the white house mad, He might star dropping TNT in front of you front door.They are numbered in several millions.

  70. cocoy - December 26, 2006 8:46 am

    I don’t mean dynamite. tago ng tago sa America.

  71. Ellen - December 26, 2006 10:13 am

    Cocoy and also to others: please use sentence case. all caps are distracting. Hindi maganda basahin. Parang nagsisigaw.

    Robert, please use regular paragraphing in your comments. It makes for easy reading. Don;t write it as a poem.

    These are all for easier reading of comments.

    Thanks.

  72. mandirigma - December 26, 2006 11:34 pm

    The women who showed support for the rapist Smith were wives of Filipino servicemen. The report didn’t specify if their husband belong to the Philippine or US military. Pero bakit pa? Hindi ba sila babae na tulad ni Nicole? Kahit na karapatan nila ang magpakita ng suporta kahit kanino, di kung ganoon lahat na convicted criminals kailangan din suportahan? Look at Sadam Hussein. I know he’s not a good leader. Marami na din pinatay siyang tao. But compare Iraq today and that of his regime, it’s a lot worse today. The US accused him of protecting and harboring terrorists; but Sadam was actually fighting against terrorists. In his time, there were no terrorists in his country. Kung kailan nandoon na ang mga Amerikano saka nagkaroon ng mga terrorists.

  73. Mike Uliling - December 26, 2006 11:48 pm

    FROM MALAYA NEWSPAPER DEC. 26th.

    A group called Justice for Smith (JDS) will serenade him with Christmas carols today at the Makati city jail. JDS is composed of wives of US military personnel, students and professionals.

    “We are hopeful that he would be able to hear the hymns from his detention room,” said the group’s leader Grace Santos, a Filipina wife of a US Navy enlisted personnel based in San Diego in California.

    She said they would also bring gifts like clothes and books to lighten his mood.

    “We hope it will further strengthen his conviction that he is innocent of the crime imputed against him,” said Santos.

    ….Ang masasabi ko lang po ay ganito… ANG KAKAPAL NAMAN NG MGA (DIS)GRACE SANTOS NA ITO SAMPU NG KANIYANG MGA HALING NA HALING SA MGA ASAWA NILANG KANO. (NAKATIKIM LANG KAYO NG GREENCARD PAKIRAMDAM NYO ANG GAGANDA NYO NA AT ANG GAGALING NYO NANG MAG INGLES.) PUWEDE BANG PABAYAAN NYO NA LANG ANG HUSTISYA SA ATIN ANG MAG DECIDE KUNG ANO DAPAT ANG MANGYARI SA PINAGTATANGGOL NINYO. NAKAKAHIYA KAYO. WALA AKO SA POSISYON KUNG YANG PINAGTATANGGOL NINYO AY INOSENTE O MAYSALA. PERO ILAGAY NINYO SA SARILE NINYO O SA MGA KAMAG ANAK NINYO BABAE ANG SINAPIT NG BIKTIMA. SABIHIN NA NATING PAREHO NILANG GUSTO, ANO NA LANG ANG MARARAMDAMAN MO KUNG ANG ANAK MO O KAMAG ANAK NA BABAE AY BIGLA NA LANG TINAPON SA GILID NG DAAN NA HALOS NAKAHUBAD MATAPOS PAGRAUSAN NG ISANG LALAKI SA LOOB NG SASAKYAN? SIGE NGA? EWAN KO LANG SA MGA TULAD NINYONG MGA LAPI NG (DIS)GRACE SANTOS NA YAN… BAKA SIGURO NAKIKIPAG HAGIKGIKAN PA KAYO O HUMIHIRIT PA NG ISA PA HABANG BINABABOY NA KAYO SA LOOB NG SASAKYAN. NAKAKAHIYA KAYO… IMBES NA MANAHIMIK NA LANG.

  74. mandirigma - December 27, 2006 12:02 am

    At the very least, bad taste ang ginawa ng grupo ni Santos. Paanong hindi paghihinalaan silang binayaran sa ginawa nila? I think the promotor was some US Embassy people. Ano kaya kung sa kanya at kanyang grupo nangyari ang rape o sa mga anak nilang dalaga, kapatid na babae o mga ina? Okay lang kung nasa proseso pa ng Korte a ng kaso. Pero nagpasiya na ang Hukuman tapos saka iingay ang mga iyan ngayon.

  75. mandirigma - December 27, 2006 12:25 am

    Nabalitaan din ninyo ang gulong nangyayari sa Somalia at Ethiopa. Do you know that the US is involved again in that? The US troops are training the Ethiopian commandos and fighters. Iyan nga ang mahirap, halos lahat ng gulo sa mundo kasangkot ang Amerika. Pati ang Husgado natin hindi man lang nila iginagalang. It’s an obvious blackmail to the RP government for canceling the Balikatan exercise. Kung pumalag si Arroyo na malabo naman niyang gawin, baka mabawasan pa ang isang tambak na kasalanan niya sa taong bayan.

  76. Mike Uliling - December 27, 2006 12:41 am

    Itong gloriang ito, mas masahol pa sa mga babaeng ang asawa ay kano. Hindi naman sya asawa, ni kabit pero panay ang papansin at bubuka bukaka pa sa harapan nila. Habang itong si raulong gonzalez na ito may hawak pang karatola at nakangisi at nagsasabing halika tikman mo ito. Libre na’t kakaibang langit pa ang mararating nyo. Mismong pekeng pangulong iyan binababoy din tayo. Walang pinagkaiba sa disgrace santos na yan. Mga pakakak!!!

  77. Mike Uliling - December 27, 2006 1:00 am

    Sorry Mam Ellen kung nagamit ko ay puro all caps sa isa kong comment. Nakakagigil lang talaga ang mga ganitong uri ng babae. Kahit dito sa pinagtratrabahuhan ko, hindi ko naman nilalahat pero ang mga iba, nakapag asawa lang ng kano kung umasta akala mo mas maputi pa sila at mas magaling mag ingles. Pero ang titigas naman ng dila at mas di hamak na mas may itsura pa sa kanila si Pokwang. Buti na nga lang at ang anak nila ay nagmana sa asawa nilang blue eyes at mestiza at hindi sa mga mukha nilang bangenge. Inuulit ko, hindi ko po nilalahat. Maliwanag? Ewan ko ba, ang mga kanong ito ay mahihilig talaga sa tinatawag na ethnic beauties. Ibig sabihin, sa itsura na lang nila, kahit si Bentong magdadalawang isip kung papatulan sila o hindi (mas malamang hindi). Yon ang gusto ng mga puti kasi alam nilang sila lang talaga ang nakauna.

  78. cocoy - December 27, 2006 7:31 am

    Mike Uliling:

    I feel your disgust about Grace Santos whom you quote [Dis]. My sentiment are with them.The court has spoken and the verdict was handed down. The case was not even closed yet and it is on appeal.

    Here in California or in any part of the world where the U.S.A.F. are based, all has the same vigil for the U.S.Marine corporal. Not only Filipino but global nation who has sons and daughters in the U.S.Armed Forces. They are not convinced that Daniel is guilty. I sided their opinion.Smith said that it was a consensual sex and she said it was a rape. She recanted her stories, that she was
    gang raped..Sex encountered occurred in that van that night. Those U.S.Marine gentlemen on that night could stop him if there was a rape.The have a military doctrine unbecoming an officer and gentlemen. We in the United States don’t trust your court system.What happened to Garcilliano he is scotts free while almost everyone including the some solons in the senate and congress pointing fingers at him.Where is the court integrity? Restore integrity in your court system then you can convince us that our marine is guilty. I leave a question: Do you think, there is a penetration without lubrication? Hindi nabutas ang condom kasi basa ang butas.Bakit basa? You can answer that from your sexual experence..

    I am not going to elaborate to you some details why we Filipinos love America.We work hard from dawn to dust to make a living.We are getting a decent living,which our country could not even provided us.Believe me my friend I am wearing a gold Rolex watch and driving a Mercedes.

  79. Mike Uliling - December 27, 2006 10:55 am

    Cocoy,

    Sinabi ko bang perpekto ang judicial system sa Pilipinas? And I would also believe that you would agree with me na ang batas din dyan sa Amerika ay di rin perpekto o patas. Ilan tao na ba ang nasentensyahan ng maraming taon pero di naman sila ang tunay na nagkasala? Ilan na ba ang nahatulang mamatay pero huli na nang mabaligtad ang sentensiya? Ang populasyon sa loob ng preso sa U.S., di ba karamihan doon ay di puti? Oo sabihin na nating consensual? Sa tingin mo ba papayag ang biktima na matapos siyang pagrausan ay basta na lang ibababa sa isang kanto na di pa hustong naisusuot ang pantalon at pang ibaba? Kung gawin kaya iyon sa isang taong malapit sa yo, anong mararamdaman mo? Im quite sure also na magagaling ang naging abogado ng Corporal nyo. Pero nagbaba na ng sentensiya ang Husgado, huwag nang makialam pa ang iba. Kung mag apela, good. Pero bakit pa kailangang may makisamang mga tulad ng grace santos na yan? Anong gusto niyang palabasin? Nga pala, yung sa Abu Ghraib prison, anong masasabi mo doon? Patas ba sila? May integridad ba doon? Simula nung lumabas ang mga litratong iyon, ilan na bang inosenteng sibilyan ang dinampot ng mga terorista at saka pinugutan ng ulo? Anong masasabi mo doon? Tungkol naman sa sobrang kayod na kahit kahit gabi ginagawang umaga para lang sa Rolex at Mercedes Benz, kung yan ang ikaliligaya nyo, well and good. Whether it’s fully paid or still paying installment for those material things, I don’t really care. Kasi alam ko kung sa Pilipinas natin dalhin ang ganiyang attitude, ni tricycle ay di pa rin tayo makakabili. Kaya lang, sa sobrang daling utangin ang mga bagay na yon, marami rin sa ating kapuwa Pilipino ang nababaon sa utang. Hindi ko rin nilalahat ang mga kano. Dahil may mga kaibigan din akong puti na medyo nadidismaya din sa nangyayari sa pamahalaan sa Amerika. Lalo na ang nangyayari sa Iraq. Pero ang batas ay batas. Malas lang nya at siya ang nasa ganong situwasyon. Isang halimbawa na lang, isa kang ehemplong mamayan ng U.S. Araw-araw nagtratrabaho ka, nagbabayad ng buwis sa tamang panahon, may pamilya, ulirang ama. Pero minsan sa sobrang pagmamadali mo nahuli ka dahil sa overspeeding at binigyan ka ng ticket, masasabi mo na bang masamang tao ka? Nahuli ka ng overspeeding, ang kapalit non ay speeding ticket at multa at puntos sa insurance. Sa tingin mo ba patas iyon sa yo dahil isa kang mabuting mamamayan? Ganiyan lang ang batas.

  80. IsipPilipino - December 27, 2006 11:06 am

    We seem to prefer questioning the character of the supposed victim. Rape is rape,whether she is a prostitute or not,etc. As to those American servicemen, can we expect better behaviour from no more than high schoolers, white boys anyway under the influence of alcohol and a group/mob mentality?

    NOTE: In 1995, anti-base protests broke out in Okinawa in response to the rape of a twelve-year-old girl by three U.S. servicemen, who had rented a car for the purpose, so that they could take her to a remote location and rape her; and in response to the callous view of Admiral Richard C. Macke, commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific, who told the press: “I think that [the rape] was absolutely stupid. For the price they paid to rent the car, they could have had a girl.”

    The widespread protests, led by an organization called Okinawa Women Act Against Military Violence, were not, however, just in response to this single rape, brutal though it was. Between 1972 and 1995, U.S servicemen were implicated in 4,716 crimes, nearly one per day, according to the Nihon Keizai Shimbun, a conservative Japanese newspaper.

    The Japan-U.S. agreement that governs the Okinawa base allows U.S. authorities to refuse Japanese requests for military suspects, and few indeed have suffered any inconvenience for their crimes.

    (check out: http://www.alternet.org/rights/19134

    Note also below article from PREDA, a charitable organization in Olongapo City since 1974:
    ******************************
    AMERICAN MILITARISM: Commercial sex for U.S. troops now a crime, Mike Cohen

    Commercial sex for U.S. troops is now a crime under an October 14th Presidential Order amending Article 134 of the UCMJ – note the date – Since Oct 14th US forces are barred from soliciting, frequenting, being near districts where human trafficking and prostitution happens. Click here for the whole article.

  81. kitamokitako - December 27, 2006 11:38 am

    Quote from Cocoy:
    “Believe me my friend I am wearing a gold Rolex watch and driving a Mercedes.”
    Well, ‘yan siguro ang bunga ng paghihirap mo. Kaya pala, kung tama ang nabasa ko, ilang daliri na lang ng kamay mo ang gumagana. Ganyan naman ang karamihan sa mga pinoy –
    nagpapakahirap ng husto masunod lang ang ilang luho. Ganoon pa man Cocoy, sana nage=enjoy ka rin sa buhay mo, because life is too short!!

    Off topic, but i want to share this with those who have been living overseas for long:

    ARe you still a filipino? Here are the tests:
    (My son copied it from a website and sent to me)

    MANNERISMS & PERSONALITY TRAITS

    You point with your lips.
    You eat using your hands and have it down to a technique!
    Your other piece of luggage is a balikbayan box.
    You nod your head upwards to greet someone.
    You put your foot up on your chair and rest your elbow on your knee while eating.
    You use a rock to scrub yourself in the bath or shower.
    You have to kiss your relatives on the cheek as soon as you enter the room.
    You’re standing next to eight big boxes at the airport.
    You collect items from hotels or restaurants “for souvenir’s sake.”
    Your house has a distinctive aroma.
    You smile for no reason.
    You flirt by having a foolish grin on your face while raising your eyebrows repeatedly.
    You go to a department store and try to bargain the prices.
    You use an umbrella for shade on hot summer days.
    You scratch your head when you don’t know the answer.
    You never eat the last morsel of food on the table.
    You go bowling
    You play pusoy & mah jong
    You find dried up morsels of rice stuck to your shirt.
    You prefer to sit in the shade instead of basking in the sun.
    You add an unwarranted “H” to your name (i.e., “Jhun,” “Bhoy,” or “Rhon.”)
    You put your hands together in front of you as if to make a path and say “excuse, excuse” when you pass in between people or in front of the TV.
    Your middle name is your mother’s maiden name.
    You like everything that’s imported or “state-side.”
    You check the labels on clothes to see where it was made.
    You hang your clothes out to dry.
    You are perfectly comfortable in a squatting position with your elbows resting on your knees.
    You consistently arrive 30 minutes late for all events.
    You always offer food to all your visitors.

    VOCABULARY:
    You say “comfort room” instead of “bathroom.”
    You say “for take out” instead of “to go.”
    You “open” or “close” the lights.
    You ask for “Colgate” instead of “toothpaste.”
    You ask for a “pentel pen” or a “ball pen” instead of just a pen.
    You refer to the refrigerator as the “ref” or “pridyider.”
    You say kodakan instead of “take a picture.”
    You order a “McDonald’s” instead of a “hamburger” (pronounced ham-boor-jer).
    You say “Ha?” instead of “What?”
    You say “Hoy!” to get someone’s attention.
    You answer when someone yells “Hoy!”
    You turn around when someone says “Psst!”
    You say “Cutex” instead of “nail polish.”
    You say “for a while” instead of “please hold” on the telephone.
    You say “he” when you mean “she” and vice versa.
    You say “aray!” instead of “ouch!”
    Your sneeze sounds like “ahh-ching” instead of “ahh-choo.”
    You prefer to make acronyms for phrases such as “OA” for overacting, “DOM” for dirty old man and “TNT” for, well, you know.
    You say “air con” instead of “a/c” or air conditioner.
    You pronounce the following words:”hippopo-TA-mus,” “com-FOR-table,” “bro-CO-li,” and “Mongo-mery Ward.”
    You say “brown-out” instead of “black-out.”
    You say “Uy!” instead of “Oops.”

    HOME FURNISHINGS:
    You use a walis tambo and a walis ting-ting as opposed to a conventional broom.
    You have a “Weapons of Moroland” shield hanging in your living room wall.
    You have a portrait of “The Last Supper” hanging in your dining room wall.
    You own a karaoke system.
    You own a piano no one ever plays.
    You have a tabo in the bathroom.
    Your house is cluttered with burloloys.
    You have two or three pairs of tsinelas at your doorstep.
    Your house has ornate wrought iron gates in front of it.
    You have a rose garden.
    You display a laughing Buddha for good luck.
    You have a shrine to the Santo Nino in your living room.
    You own a “Barrel Man” (shwing!)
    You have a parol hanging outside your house during the holidays.
    You cover your living room furniture with bedsheets.
    Your lampshades still have the plastic covers on them.
    You have plastic runners to cover the carpets in your house.
    You refer to your VCR as the “Beyta-Max.”
    You have a rice dispenser.
    You own a turbo broiler.
    You own one of those fiber-optic flower lamps.
    You own a lamp with the oil that drips down the strings.
    You have a giant wooden fork & spoon hanging in the dining room.
    You have wooden tinikling dancers on the wall.
    You own capiz shell chandeliers, lamps or placemats.

    AUTOMOBILES:
    You own a Mercedes Benz and call it “chedeng.”
    You own a huge van conversion.
    Your car chirps like a bird or plays a tune when it’s in reverse.
    Your car horn can make three or more different sounds.
    Your car has curb feelers on it.
    You hang a rosary on your car’s rear view mirror.
    You have those air fresheners in a bottle.

    There are some more, but i do not want you to take much of your time.

  82. cocoy - December 27, 2006 12:12 pm

    Mike Uliling;
    Now,you agreed with me that it was consensual.Case is closed Smith is acquited.That’s what we are believing on him.Now,someone agreed that our Daniel did not rape that woman.The case is on appeal, his counsel will present that evidence about dropping her.I’m not going to comment on that.
    About our prisoner you know what those are hardcore criminals mostly blacks and hispanic.They rather want to stay in prison than to be out and work 8-5.Just how the prisons in here,you are just like in a dormitory.Board and lodging are free with daily little compensation.
    Our court system is a jury trial.The 12 juries and 12 alternates will decide the case base on the evidence presented in court.If you’re a prosecutor you must convince the whole jury to hand you a guilty verdict.If any one of the jury dissent it’s called a hang-jury.The dependant walk free.Do you remember OJ Simpson?We all know that his guilty.he has a good lawyer.Remember that Phrase “If it don’t fit you must aquit’. Verdict on the case is not handed for the compassion of the victim but,the evidence beyond reasonable doubt presented on the trial.That’s the reasonable doubt I’m talking about. The wet hole.That what I called credibility issue.She doen’t has any credibilty by recanting his stories.Smith admitted that He has a consensual sex.Now,whose more credible.In here we don’t convict no one just for the sympathy of the victim.

    About Abu Ghraib,Gen Taguba is handling that.We need to wait for the result.

  83. cocoy - December 27, 2006 12:17 pm

    Kitamokitako:
    I work hard for my honest money.It didn’t come from corruption or we called it dirty money.I have a good job and a good life and you don’t have to know.Ang masasbi ko sa iyo ingit ka lang.

  84. mandirigma - December 27, 2006 12:47 pm

    One can work hard, earn money without bragging. Subukan mong magyabang sa Pilipinas at kung hindi ka ma-hold up o patayin. Sa Amerika kasi, basta masipag ka lang kaya mong bumili ng kotse at bahay. Kasi ba naman puro utang. I’m not implying that your rolex and Mercedez came from borrowed loans. Ang ibig kong sabihin ay kung ano ang kayang kainin ng mga mayayaman doon, kaya mo rin basta may trabaho. That’s the good thing about strong middle class. Tungkol naman kay Smith, it’s not only sympathy for Nicole but justice. How did you know it was a consensual sex? Nandoon ka ba? I would like to think that many in the US military services are good kids. Pero kapag nasa labas na ng kampo at kasama ang barkada, lumalabas na ang mga sungay. It won’t be hard to believe that a 21 years old soldier like Smith raped Nicole. Hindi porke maamo ang mukha mabait na. Napakabata pa siya at medyo hot wika nga. Tapos talagang mababa ang tingin ng mga iyan sa kababaihang Pinay. Let’s not twist the facts of the case. He committed the crime. The case was litigated. The court gave its decision. Ano pa ba ang gusto ng iba? Kulang na lang sabihin pakawalan siya. Once the guy is taken custody by the US, he’s like a free man.

  85. cocoy - December 27, 2006 1:53 pm

    Mandirigma;
    You don’t have any good argument in this issue,and it is no use of argueing with you.I don’t have no further question from you.I consider you a hostile witness.

  86. cocoy - December 27, 2006 2:40 pm

    Mandirigma;
    You are excuse.Take a law class so that you can learn.

  87. Mike Uliling - December 27, 2006 4:30 pm

    Cocoy:

    Just like what I said previously, I am in no position to declare whether your corporal is innocent or guilty. Labas ako diyan. Although as far as the military system goes in the U.S., you are already presumed guilty unless proven otherwise. Unlike in the civilian, it’s the other way around. Pero ang nakakasama lang ng loob bakit may humahalo pang kauri natin na magra rally doon sa labas ng kulungan at ipamumukha sa mga tao roon kung kanino sila kampi. This is a very sensitive issue at alam mo kung gaanon ka sensitive ang mga Pilipino sa Pilipinas. Doon ka pa sa bakuran nila na magrarally? Ba’t di na lang sila dito sa Philippine consulate sa L.A. o embassy sa Washington o embassy sa Japan? Sa isang magulang na malaman nila na ang anak nila ay naakusahan sa isang krimen, ang initial reaction ay di sila makakapaniwala. All this time akala nila mabait ang anak nila and they would stick to that. Tapos papasok pa doon ang state of denial. Pero sige, let’s see what the Court of Appeals will say or the Supreme Court in that matter.

  88. cocoy - December 27, 2006 4:42 pm

    k
    itamokitako,mandirigma,mike uliling:
    i used that rolex trick,para painitin ang ulo ninyo.I intentionaly do that para masira anf diskarte ninyo.Kita ninyo bumigay kayo.That’s how a lawyer work.di natutu kayo.If you go to discussion remain calm para hindi masira ang diskarte ninyo.

  89. cocoy - December 27, 2006 4:49 pm

    That’s how I win my battle.I’m slick.Learn from me.

  90. ystakei - December 27, 2006 5:32 pm

    Just sharing:

    From: Roland Simbulan
    Subject: The Issue is Justice, Not Special Treatment

    Recently, what is perhaps the next most significant victory for Philippine sovereignty after the 1991 Philippine Senate decision to dismantle U.S. military bases from the Philippines was achieved through the conviction of a U.S. military serviceman for rape by a Philippine court. This victory was achieved despite the special treatment accorded to the accused by the Philippine-U.S. Visiting Forces Agreement. Thanks to the victim Nicole and her family who refused to be bribed by the accused and their backer, the United States government, the mightiest superpower on earth today. Thanks to the brilliant legal acumen of Nicole’s private prosecutor, Atty. Evalyn Ursua, as well as the victim’s support groups, ranging from civic organizations to women’s organizations from the broad political spectrum. Atty. Ursua, who graduated class valedictorian from the University of the Philippines College of Law, made her alma mater and the U.P. Faculty proud, for this historic legal
    victory.

    We commend the decision of Judge Benjamin Pozon of the Makati Regional Trial Court in upholding the rule of law and the majesty of the Philippine judicial system in giving justice to Nicole, the Subic rape victim. Likewise, Judge Pozon’s decision to assert the jurisdiction of the Philippines over the convicted U.S. soldier, Lance Corporal Daniel Smith, has put to shame the officials of the Philippine Department of Justice, Department of Foreign Affairs and the VFA Commission. These officials, who are siding with the U.S. government’s position that the
    United States should have custody over the American soldier during the appeals process even after conviction by the trial court, have shamelessly become spokespersons and lawyers for foreign interests .

    Now, after conviction by the Philippine Court, the U.S. still wants to expand special treatment for U.S. Lance Corporal Smith who has been staying in a 5-star hotel all throughout the trial, with bodyguards and the luxurious amenities of a foreign diplomat. The U.S. government now
    threatens to suspend the year-round Balikatan military exercises and the U.S. military assistance that ostensibly go with it. Well and good. Let them eat their words.

    The best thing that could happen to the Philippines right now is for the Balikatan war exercises to be scrapped permanently, for the Balikatan has only been used as a smokescreen for U.S. military intervention in the Philippines under the guise of “anti-terrorism training”. They expect the Philippine judicial system and our laws to cave in to this threat. We cannot bargain the wheels of Philippine justice for supposed “goodwill in RP-US relations”, U.S. military intervention and a
    few crumbs of assistance from the U.S. global anti-terror campaign. This is a question of justice that cannot be compromised.

    Let us also take a hard look at the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA) and work towards its immediate abrogation. The VFA has only been used to give special treatment and extra-territorial rights to U.S. forces committing crimes on Philippine soil and violations of our laws, while
    engaged in so-called military exercises. This country and most especially its top officials should learn to obey its own Constitution which guarantees “equal protection before the law.” This is what Judge Pozon has taught all of us to assert in our own country.

    This is why this country has difficulty in taking the road to progress, national self-determination and national development: its officials would rather protect the interests of powerful foreign interests, rather than the interests of their own people. Our own Filipino officials are often our own worst enemies.

    Charles Bohlen, who served as U.S. Ambassador to the Philippines in the 1950s, once told a Filipino audience:
    “We in the U.S. Embassy are here to protect American interests. We expect your officials to protect your own interests.”

    For the coming year, we wish everyone more victories in the continuing struggle for national sovereignty and democratic governance.

    Roland G. Simbulan
    Professor and Faculty Regent
    University of the Philippines System December 26, 2006

  91. ystakei - December 27, 2006 5:51 pm

    Tongue T:

    Tama ka, sinong matinong tao ang maniniwala kay Smith e ang linaw-linaw ng ginawang kahayupan ng mga bastos na kanong iyan kay Nicole? Siraulo ang mga ulo siguro! Dapat pa nga, isinama iyong mga cheerleaders ni Smith na kundi dumating ang patrol e baka tinira rin si Nicole.

    I should know. Marami na akong nahawakang kaso ng mga sundalong kano sa Japan. The only difference is hindi kiumakampi ang Minister of Justice namin sa mga kano dahil hindi naman niya jurisdiction na makialam sa pamamalakad ng hustisya kahit na pa siya Minister of Justice. Ang jurisdiction ay nasa hukuman at hukom.

    Golly, sa Pilipinas, iyong gunggong pang Secretary of Justice ang unang-unang bumabatikos sa desisyon ng hukom ng hukuman ng Pilipinas. If that is not stupidity, what is?

    Isa pa, kaya hindi makahirit pati US Embassy sa Japan ay daig naman di hamak ng mga Japanese police ang mga kano kung imbestigasyon ang pag-uusapan. Very scientific ang approach ng mga pulis dito na may medico-legal pa na hindi nag-iimbento ng mga data at facts kapag rape, murder, etc. ang pag-uusapan. Sa Pilipinas, ang hilig pang mag-hocus-pocus ng mga batugan na mga imbestigador. ‘Kakahiya!

    OK ang analogy mo. Pero ilan kaya ang mga katulad mong pilipino na marunong magmalasakit sa kapwa mo pilipino at nakakaintindi na hindi sila dapat maawa sa isang horny na sundalong kano?! Dapat lang mabulok ang mga katulad niya sa bilangguan. Alam naman ng mga iyan na mabigat ang parusa sa rape sa Pilipinas. Baka akala niya makakalusot siya komo kano siya at may ginawang usapan ang mga gunggong na opisyal na pilipino at mayayabang na opisyal na kano na pabor na pabor sa mga kano kahit na tapakan nila sa ilong ang mga pilipino! Nakakakulo talaga ng dugo! :-x

  92. mandirigma - December 27, 2006 10:02 pm

    Calm down Cocoy. There’s no need to be upset. I wasn’t siding with kitamokitako or with anyone. I know you’re blessed living comfortably in the Golden State of California. Pero alam mo naman na marami din tumalon sa tinatawag mong Golden Gate Bridge. I have learned from you as you suggested. I’ve learned how good it feels to have a Rolex and Mercedez. Peace and God bless!

  93. mandirigma - December 27, 2006 10:19 pm

    The cancellation of the Balikatan exercise does not only harm the Philippine military but the US well. The US teaches our soldiers with the latest weapons while we teach them the jungle warfare. Anong alam nila sa jungle survival? Anong alam nila sa labanang guerilla? Kung mano-mano lang (man for man), tatalunin ng kahit sinong sundalong Pinoy ang Kano. Aba, di hamak na matatapang at mahuhusay tayo. Once, I heard the Americans were amazed to see how good the Filipino soldiers shoot with their old and unreliable weapons. Nagulat sila na kayang mag-target ang mga Pilipino kahit luma na ang gamit.

  94. Mike Uliling - December 27, 2006 11:13 pm

    Minsan may co-worker akong Vietnamese. Napag usapan lang namin ang tungkol sa giyera nila noon pa. Kung bakit daw di matalo ng kano ang kanilang sundalo kahit puro na sila high tech (nung panahong iyon) sa weapon ay dahil nasa puso ang pinaglalaban. Ke tama sila o mali sa pananaw ng ibang bansa. Ganon din ang mga Pilipinong sundalo. Ganunpaman, nakakalungkot din sabihin na ang iba doon ay nabayaran na o naging private army na ng dwende sa Malakanyang. Marami na ang sinira ng dwendeng itim na ito.

  95. mandirigma - December 27, 2006 11:23 pm

    Alam mo Mike, ang nakikinabang lang naman sa tinutukoy mong dwendeng itim ay iyon mga matataas na opisyales tulad ng mga Heneral. The rank and file possess the heart of patriotism and idealism including the young officers. The problem is if and when they get eaten up by the system of corruption and padrino system. Nagsimula ito sa panahon ni Marcos at tuloy-tuloy hanggang ngayon.

  96. mandirigma - December 27, 2006 11:56 pm

    MANILA — Bearing gifts, they traveled from within and outside Metro Manila to wish a jailed US soldier well.

    From as far as Olongapo City, Pampanga, and Cavite to as near as Quezon City, supporters of Lance Cpl. Daniel Smith went to the Makati City Jail (MCJ) one by one Wednesday afternoon to deliver gifts and letters to the Marine, convicted of raping a Filipino woman last year.

    Delivering on their promised holiday celebration for Smith, at least six members of the group “Justice for Dan Smith” also lit 23 candles for the serviceman, representing each day that Smith has been incarcerated in the local jail. The group was not allowed inside the jail and handed the gifts and letters to a jail guard.

    “This is my first time to come here to show my support for Smith. He is away from his family, his country, and he is pitiful so we have to help him. I am also a mother with children around his age, and it somehow feels painful for me too. I just want to know the truth,” said Ligaya Tauro, 52, a wife of a Filipino Air Force colonel who came all the way from Sangley Point in Cavite to take part in the activity.

    Comment: Walang masama ang magbigay ng suporta sa isang bilanggo. Kung ang katuwiran ng mga babaeng ito ang susundin, di dapat ganoon din ang gawin sa mga nakakulong na kababayan nating Pinoy sa Amerika. I still think such activities being undertaken by these alleged wives of military personnel are being financed by a group connected to the US Embassy.

  97. Mike Uliling - December 28, 2006 12:50 am

    Their own version of truth was already presented by both sides at the court. The judge handed down a decision and that’s it. The defendant’s appealing the case, so be it. Until then, magtiis siya sa loob ng sinasabing kulungan. Now, did the judge made an error and giving out his decision after hearing all the facts? He’s still human after all susceptible to commit mistakes. But being the man possessing years of experience in hearing other cases, I don’t think he made an error in interpreting the law. Same thing with the court system in the U.S. The guilty ones can sometimes walk out free and can commit the same crime again.

  98. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 3:20 am

    Sa isang banda, tama din ang sinabi ni Cocoy na sa US karamihan sa mga preso ay mga itim at latino. I’m sometimes disgusted to see that these black inmates playing basketball and training with weights. Imbes na nagdurusa sa bilangguan ay nage-exercise pa. Lalo lang lumalaki ang muscles. When they get out, they are physically stronger which means they could commit more serious crimes. Kapag kulang ang pagkain sa loob o hindi nabigyan ng attention, ayun human rights violation ang sigaw. So it’s true, some prefer to remain inside than be free.

  99. kitamokitako - December 28, 2006 4:51 am

    Cocoy, ako? maiingit sa iyo? Nevah! Makabibili rin ako ng rolex sa ebay, kahit fake ang mabili ko, rolex pa rin, di bah?
    Chedeng? Halos ipamigay na ng nuong matandang kapitbahay ko ang lumang modelong chedeng niya, walang taker. Lastly, you missed my point. Why is it, because you worked hard from dusk to dawn, you deserve to have a rolex and merc, but i said i hope you also enjoy life. Balance, ika nga. All work and no play makes one dull.

    About Nicole’s case, this is what i have to say – Would you consider even to have a consensual sex with some people around cheering or egging the guy to go on? Of course not, unless, that guy is forcing the sex act, or is raping you,which what had happened in Nicole’s case.

  100. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 4:58 am

    If the basis for owning a Rolex and Mercedez is hard work, then there are millions of Filipinos and people around the world who should also own those. Hindi masama ang ipagmalaki ang pinaghirapan pero dapat ay gawin sa tamang paraan. Can we not close the issue now? Alam kong wala naman masamang intention si Cocoy sa kanyang sinabi at ganoon din ang iba. Tungkol naman sa “consensual sex”, mahirap paniwalaan kung mangyari ito sa harap ng maraming ibang lalaki. If it’s done privately, it’s more likely to be consensual. Pero sa loob ng sasakyan at sumisigaw ang mga kasama niya, mahirap yata paniwalaan iyan.

  101. cocoy - December 28, 2006 7:07 am

    Kitamokitako:I gave you a picture,I came to America in 1976 with only 2 years of college education.I started working as a recieving clerk in a big American company.I persue my college education here in a well known university in this states.I finish my bachelors and masters degrees.Now,I am working as a litigator.Gets mo what is my job and my salary.If you are in U.S.A.you can know what I mean.

  102. cocoy - December 28, 2006 7:29 am

    mandirigma;That’s the best part of my job to intimidate people to comprimise there differences before the case will go to a court hearing.

  103. cocoy - December 28, 2006 7:33 am

    mandirigma;I know what is a consensual sex and rape.I encountered a lot of cases like this.

  104. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 7:35 am

    Are you saying you’re an attorney? Lawyers are the most well paid profession in the US similar to doctors. Mabuti ka pa nag-umpisa bilang receiving clerk. Ang mga iba kung anu-ano na lang trabaho ang pinasok even with impressive credentials. There was less competition in 1976, though. But I presume discrimination was rampant on those days. You said you studied at well known university. If you’re based in San Francisco, it could be San Francisco State University or Stanford. Sa bandan East Bay, ang alam kong sikat iyon University of Berkeley. Anyway, wala naman sa school iyan. Nasa tao na iyan. Masuwerte ka at maaga ka nakarating sa Amerika. Mas maraming opportunities noon at siyempre in demand ang mga tulad mo. These days, I heard even those with university degrees are finding it hard to get employed or a jobs that match their qualification.

  105. cocoy - December 28, 2006 7:42 am

    mandirigma;In 1976 it was less competition.Tama ka ngayon marami ng competition.What is your gueese it could be one is right.I won’t give you more details about my life because I don’t know you well,yet.Maybe,one of this days when I visit our country I’ll meet with.Confidential reason.sorry.

  106. TonGuE-tWisTeD - December 28, 2006 8:24 am

    It’s enough consolation that the judge convicted even just one. It’s silly, stupid that the others were acquitted. In that situation, the crime of one is the crime of all. Lucky for Smith we’ve just outlawed the death penalty. It could have been fun watching these horny kids shit in their pants as the clerk read the verdict.

    You give these assholes your hand, now they want your arm!

    To those who think the verdict was wrong, I tell you this:
    Allow me to have consensual sex with your sister, get her blitzed for the occasion so she won’t remember anything, I’ll screw her while two of my friends watch. They won’t touch her. We’ll drop her off but make her wear decent clothes.

    I know there won’t be any takers. Unless you or your sister is a maniac. And that’s the picture of Nicole that Smith’s camp is trying to paint.

    Now look at the stupid Filipinos.

  107. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 9:48 am

    Well Cocoy, I understand your apprehension. Even in this forum, we can never be sure whom we’re interacting with. You must be some kind of a VIP to be cautious in even telling us where you studied. Medyo nakakapagtaka. Hindi ka naman TNT diyan. Are you afraid of something?

  108. cocoy - December 28, 2006 10:13 am

    Tongue-tWisted:

    Naiintindihan ko ang galit at opinion mo.Hindi ko naman sinabing mali ang hatol ng Judge .Ang sabi ko he rendered his verdict based on evidence presented in court. Ang ikinasasama ng loob namin dito sa America ang sabi ng babae she was ganged-rape. Then she recant her stories,The case is on appeal.Mayroon bang panibagong trial. Ang ikinasasama ng loob namin hinusgahan n’yo na kasi siya ng kriminal.May panibago pa namang trial at pwede bang makarating iyan sa Supreme Court.
    Hindi naman makakatakbo iyan kahit kukunin siya ng U.S.Embassy.Naipaliwanag; ko na ang opinion ko na it was a consensual sex,sabi mo rape.We differ opinion and we don’t have to fight each other kasi ano man ang sabihin natin, ang ating opinion ay hindi tatangapin ng korte for the next trial.We are not the parties involved. Huwag mo akong murahin kung ano man ang paniniwala ko yes, maybe I went overboard kung nasabi ko ang kotse at relos,Naipaliwanag ko na kung bakit ko nasabi iyon.Wag n’yo ng gawing issue kung maari sana.Gusto ko lang makipagkaibigan sa inyong lahat,
    Huwag ninyong murahin ang America dahil nakakatulong din kami sa inyo.Sa akin okey lang kasi wala na akong pamilya d’yan,pero uuwi ako d’yan pag nagretire ako.Alam mo marami ang nakakabasa nitong blog dito sa America.Halos lahat ng mga Pilipno na may mga anak sa U.S.A.F. sinusubaybayan nila ito may mga pamilya rin sila d’yan sa Pilipinas.Huwag na ninyong saktan ang damdamin nila.Nag-vivigil silang lahat di lang dito kundi sa ibang parte ng mundo.

  109. cocoy - December 28, 2006 10:17 am

    Mandirigma:Agila ang passport ko.Natatakot ako sa nakaraan ko noong nasa Pilipinas pa ako Martial Law time kaya nga nahinto ako ng 4 years sa college.Remember Sept.21,1972

  110. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 10:44 am

    Aktibista ka ba noon? Tapos na iyon. Matagal na iyon. Even the most wanted persons during that regime are now back in Manila. You remind me of one Atty. Rodel Rodis who also left the Philippines in the early 70s. Isn’t he a prominent San Francisco lawyer? Recently, I came across his column published at PDI. Ipinagyabang pa niya na kilala niya si Esperon. Naging classmate daw niya noong high school. Nag-lunch pa daw sila sa Manila when he was there very recently. Iyan Rodis na iyan ang abogado din ng isang Pelaez na pakawala ni Chavit Singson para sirain si Senator Lacson at Erap. So, how long have you been away from home? It’s time to return even for a visit. Maraming pagbabago na. Oo nga’t hirap pa din ang karamihang Pilipino pero nakangiti pa rin sila.

  111. cocoy - December 28, 2006 10:50 am

    mandirigma;I know him.Is he your friend,me we are not.May mga tao ba sa bundok.Pag mawala na sila at ang berdugong boss nila uuwi ako.Di ako takot sa present government,

  112. cocoy - December 28, 2006 10:57 am

    mandirigma;Since nakatakas ako riyan hindi na ako umuwi.Sa ibang bansa ako pumupunta,pero may mga kontkak pa rin ako dian.

  113. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 11:30 am

    Hindi ka naman siguro kasama nina Chito na matagal din nanirahan sa China. Don’t worry kapatid. Ako ang bahala sa iyo kapag umuwi ka. Your comrades are now scattered everywhere. Some are now in government and politics. About Rodis, I refrain from sharing the details. Magkasama sila ni Ted Laguatan na isa din abogado sa San Francisco.

  114. cocoy - December 28, 2006 11:35 am

    mandirigma;Gusto kitang maging kaibigan,kaya lang baka kasamahan ka pa rin ng singkit ang mata dito sa kabilang bansa namin.Malaki ang hidwaan namin ng taong iyo.Buhay pa ang gago at mga loko loko ang mga bagong recruit niya di tulad noon puro activista.Si Rogelio,gago rin ano.bat siya nagpapaniwala doon.

  115. cocoy - December 28, 2006 11:42 am

    mandirigma;rodel and ted are partner in crime.Kung minsan pag mayroon sila arbitration sa office namin.Pagdating ng oras umaalis ako si puti ang nag-aasikaso sa kanila.Naawa ako sa kapwa natin pilipinong ibang clieny nila.

  116. cocoy - December 28, 2006 11:45 am

    mandirigma;Wag na natin pagusapan si rodel nasisira ang araw ko.

  117. cocoy - December 28, 2006 11:47 am

    mandirigma;Are you here,maybe,we can meet.

  118. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 11:58 am

    Ka Cocoy, I’m everywhere. I’m where the action is. Nandoon ako kung kailangan. Si singkit kaya ayaw umuwi kasi nasasarapan sa lamig at buhay doon. Iyan ba ang ipinaglalaban niya? Ilan na ang nagbuwis ng buhay? Si Rodis at Laguatan nagpapasahan ng cliente iyan. Kaya nga umalis noon si Crispin Aranda kay Rodis. Rodis also filed BK after losing a case filed by a client whom he victimized.
    Nasa Pinas siya kailan lang at nakipagkita kay Esperon at Arroyo. Matindi na ang racket niya ngayon dahil bagsak na ang law office niya.

  119. cocoy - December 28, 2006 12:03 pm

    mandirigma;Can we ask Ellen to dellete the parts we talk about rodel

  120. cocoy - December 28, 2006 12:07 pm

    ellen can you please dellete the all we talk about rodel.

  121. cocoy - December 28, 2006 12:17 pm

    mandirigma;can we meet,then we talk about them privately not in this blog.I want to protect there integrity I’m sorry I thought it’s IM.

  122. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 12:24 pm

    That’s a good suggestion. Let’s request Ms. Tordesillas to delete our conversation. If you wish Cocoy, you can write me at my private e-mail. I apologize to everyone for getting carried away.

  123. cocoy - December 28, 2006 12:28 pm

    mandirigma;It’s a good idea to dellete our conversation with them Give me you e-mail then we dellete everything is that okey for you.

  124. cocoy - December 28, 2006 12:35 pm

    mandirigma;Kung nandito ka magkita tayo.Iba na lang ang topic natin wag sila.

  125. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 12:35 pm

    May I propose this: Either you give me your e-mail or you have my permission to get mine from Ms. Tordesillas. My profile is on this blog. I think you can access to it. Then, we could write privately without dragging others into our conversation.

  126. cocoy - December 28, 2006 12:42 pm

    mandirigma;you can have my permission too,to get my e-mail to ellen.You know what if you are not here maybe,by spring vacation I’m going home.Can you assure me my safety.I missed my country so much then we can have good times together.

  127. Mike Uliling - December 28, 2006 3:59 pm

    Tongue-Twisted,

    Ngayon lang ako nakakita nang isang professional na di nakakabilib ang grammar at spelling. Nahawa na rin siguro sa mga taga U.S. na mismong lenguwahe nila, di nilang kayang ispelengin. Gets mo?

  128. cocoy - December 28, 2006 4:39 pm

    Mike;Oo,ako yang tinutukoy mo,ikaw ba naman ang ma-tortured halos araw-araw noong panahon ng martial law.Iyan ang flashback na halos araw-araw dumarating sa akin,May depression ako and I need to take a lot of medication.If I’m in good mood I can think good.I always felt hatred inside me lalo pag naala-ala ko ang pilipinas,I come here in this blog to find someone to chat with.The doctor foubd me disable 3 years ago.Siguro pag nabasa nyo ang mga naisulat ko dito you can find the pattern.

  129. cocoy - December 28, 2006 4:50 pm

    sampu ang daliri ko pero tatalo lang ang gumagana,ayaw n’yo ba sa akin,okey lang magpapaalam na ako.

  130. Mrivera - December 28, 2006 6:24 pm

    cocoy, si artsee lamang ang may karapatang magtampo. huwag kang balat kamote, he he he heh! hapi nyu yir!

  131. Mrivera - December 28, 2006 6:29 pm

    ito kasing si mike, eh. hayaan mo na. ang importante, ‘yung totoong saloobing nababasa at nauunawaan kahit medyo kontra sa iyong argumento. mas mabuti na ito kaysa lahat nang mababasa natin ay tulad ng kasinungalingan ng baliw na babaeng mukhang dagang ayaw numalis sa kanyang lungga sa loob ng malakanyang.

    at saka inaaamin naman ni cocoy na meron siyang disability, di ba?

  132. Mrivera - December 28, 2006 6:33 pm

    at saka di ba, nobadi is perpek?

    pero, merong isang perpek, ‘yung baliw na babaeng mukhang dagang ayaw umalis sa kanyang lungga sa loob ng malakanyang.

    a perpek layar, korap, desit en pawer graber.

  133. ystakei - December 28, 2006 7:15 pm

    Tongue T,

    Over in the Land of the Rising Sun, the US Embassy is not allowed to meddle in the affairs of the courts here. They may try to make requests and their requests are granted only when they do not violate any Japanese rule/law. But to grant a group of stupid women to serenade a horny felon is unthinkable in Japan. Baka bigyan pa sila ng lecture ng prison officials on how to behave as a patriotic Japanese!

    Iyan ang colonial mentality! Anyway, Nicole should not despair. Judge Pozon has proven that there are still Filipinos who are on the side of the law and love their country and fellow Filipinos more!

    In fact, Filipinos can learn from the Americans when they work ONLY FOR US INTERESTS, hindi katuld noong gunggong na Secretary of In-Justice who is literally kissing the ass of Smith. Baka gusto rin magpa-rape kay Smith?! Pwe! :-x

    Magkano kaya ang ibinayad doon sa mga carolers ni Smith? Visa to the USA baka ibugaw naman sa mga kano?

  134. ystakei - December 28, 2006 7:23 pm

    Sorry, mali: Over in the Land of the Rising Sun, the US Embassy is not allowed to meddle in the affairs of the courts THERE.

    Malapit na kasi akong umuwi kaya feeling ko nasa Japan na ako. Just finished packing one bag. Sunod na iyong isa before I leave for Japan. Got all my hand cream, etc. in a plastic bag para hindi ma-confiscate. I’m also making sure that I don’t wear my sandal from SFO. Mahirap nang magaya kay Drilon.

  135. mandirigma - December 28, 2006 10:28 pm

    Hanga ako sa tapang mo Cocoy at inamin mong may depression ka and on medication. Pero natatakot akong magkita tayo at baka sakalin mo ako ng walang dahilan. We can’t meet ’cause I’m not there in the US. But, I used to work and live there. I’ve been to San Francisco, LA, Seattle, Arizona, Chicago. Na-miss ko ang New York at East Coast. I’ve also been to Canada (Vancouver and Calgary). Kung tutoong biktima ka ng Martial Law, I now know whom you were referring to as IM. Is it Imelda Marcos? Wala na iyan. Laos na iyan. She’s now sweetie-sweetie with Arroyo. Pareho kasing salbahe.

  136. Mike Uliling - December 29, 2006 12:37 am

    O sige, para naman tayo hindi nanggaling sa iisang lahi. Happy New Year sa inyong lahat. At para naman sa iyo lang pareng Cocoy, para lang tayo nag iinuman habang nagdedebatehan. You’ll never know, we might come across each other’s path someday. I’ll keep my eyes open for some Pinoy with a gold Rolex and MB. Lagalag ako dito sa Southcal.

  137. Mike Uliling - December 29, 2006 12:55 am

    Ystakei,

    Ganiyang klaseng Pilipino ang dapat iwasan sa Amerika. Lalo na kung wala sa tamang paraan ang pag stay mo sa U.S. Sila mismo ang magkakanulo sa iyo. Tulad na lang nung Little League World’s Series na ginawa sa Long Beach. Nakuha ng mga batang Pinoy ang titulo. Pero may isa ring Pinoy ang nagsumbong na ang iba doon ay over the age limit na. Bakit, nakakasiguro ba siya na patas din lumaban ang ibang team? Kaya ayun, bawi ang titulo. Bukod sa crab mentality or colonial mentality, ayaw pa nilang mahigitan. All for the sake of reward and personal interest. Iyan ang nakakalungkot.

  138. mandirigma - December 29, 2006 2:07 am

    Tama ang sinabi mo, Mike. Even when running for public office in the US, Filipinos run against one another instead of supporting one common candidate. As a result, Filipino candidates lost. Kahit saan, walang pagkakaisa ang mga Pilipino. Ipapahamak ka pa kamo.

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