Gloria tells poor to shun “luxuries”

This is what you call adding insult to injury. You are wallowing in poverty that is not of your own making and you are told that you should not be extravagant! Wala na nga laman ang iyong tiyan at bulsa, sasabihin pa sa iyo, huwag magwaldas.

Ano ang iwawaldas ng mahihirap at nauubos na ni Gloria Arroyo at ng kanyang mga alagad and pera ng bayan?

It’s the height of insensitivity and stupidity!

Malaya’s report:

President Arroyo yesterday told the poor to spend their income on basic needs instead of luxuries so that their families would have enough to eat.

Arroyo was reacting to the Feb. 24-27 Social Weather Stations (SWS) quarterly survey on hunger which showed that the degree of hunger remains at a record 19 percent since November 2006.

At the inauguration of the Col. Jesus Lapus Memorial Sports Complex in Concepcion, Tarlac, Arroyo said the issue “cannot be totally attributed to poverty and lack of opportunity but also to the spending patterns of the people.”

She said government takes reports on hunger incidence “with a sense of urgency” and wants to pinpoint specific areas where hunger is worst so that interventions can be mounted.

She said government is advancing agricultural production, broadening and speeding up the food distribution and balancing out price disparities and fluctuations.

She said rolling stores have been deployed in poor communities, food prices in the markets checked, and food transport routes from farm to market ensured. She said government’s program to entice more investments and jobs will also lower hunger incidence.

Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye said the President was merely stating a fact.

“There is a need to educate the people on the proper utilization of their meager resources,” he said.

He said that people should learn to cut down on “unnecessary expenditures” like alcohol, cigarettes and even on cell phone loads.

He added that if one fails to send their children to school, or buy milk, food or similar basic necessities, it should prompt him to start saving or “marshalling resources very carefully.”

The survey showed that the number of households that experienced hunger stayed at 3.4 million, same as in November 2006.

It showed that hunger went up in Metro Manila (from 17.7 percent in November to 20.7 percent in February), slightly rose in Luzon (from 17.7 percent to 18.3 percent) and in Mindanao (from 22.3 percent to 22.7 percent).

But it declined in the Visayas from 19 percent to 15.3 percent.

BAROMETER

Genuine Opposition spokesman Adel Tamano said the survey is a barometer “of the true state of affairs” under Arroyo’s leadership.

“This (report) belies Malacanang’s insistence that the economy is doing well. Clearly, when the President says things have never been so good, she’s referring to her family and cronies while the majority’s lot has worsened,” Tamano said in a press conference at GO’s headquarters in Mandaluyong city.

“Despite the Palace’s blabber about how well the economy is doing, evidently such is not the case for most people in Metro Manila and the rest of Luzon where hunger incidence has even worsened,” he added.

Tamano said hunger incidence has been at double digit levels since June 2004, immediately after Arroyo was proclaimed winner.

“There is no reason to doubt that a ‘Palace-friendly Senate will continue this downward trend for the country,” Tamano said.

GO senatorial candidate Francis Escudero warned the country faces the prospects of famine, with its dangerous dependence on other countries for its food supply.

“We tend to think that famine occurred only in biblical times, but we could suffer widespread hunger, thanks to an administration that puts agriculture at the bottom of its priority,” Escudero said.

He said the country has fertile farmlands and free-flowing rivers for irrigation, but the government fails to exploit these rich natural resources to ensure food security.

He said the government dutifully appropriates funds for agriculture but diverts the money into useless projects.

“Even government subsidy for fertilizers, taken largely from the sequestered Marcos wealth, was dissipated in a scam carefully laid to help administration candidates in the 2004 elections,” he said.

“If you trace the money trail, you would find that even cities had been allocated fertilizer subsidies,” he added.

March 20, 2007 11:11 pm   Posted in: General

225 Responses

  1. ystakei - March 20, 2007 11:24 pm

    I love the editor of Malaya. The advice he/she gave is this, “Let them eat ‘darak’!”

    Namputsa, komo baboy ang mga Pidal, gusto nila lahat ng mga pilipino maging baboy na din! Yuck!!!

  2. chi - March 20, 2007 11:28 pm

    Stupid Tianak! ‘Yan na lang muna at ako ay galit na galit na naman sa baliw na babaeng ito! GRRRRRRR!!! Ipakin niya ang darak sa kanyang asawang BABOY!

  3. anna de brux - March 20, 2007 11:29 pm

    Re Gloria tells poor to shun luxuries

    Well, maybe if she donated the money she kurakot (and she’s hiding in dubious bank accoutns abroad) to setting up real livelihood programs for the poor, I might just start to believe her.

    For the moment, I can’t and refuse to trust her – that even if she tells me to take an umbrella because it’s raining, I will check out of the window for myself because I simply don’t believe anything she says.

    For someone who said “I won’t run in 2004″ then turned around to say she talked to God who told her to run – how can you believe her? She’s afflicted with schizophrenia just like what Bishop Cruz said of her:

    “When you speak to God, that’s called prayer but when God answers you back, that’s schizophrenia.”

    How can anybody trust a schizophrenic like Gloria?

  4. chi - March 20, 2007 11:37 pm

    Paano hindi magugutomm ang pinoys e ibinulsa niya ang P8M fertilizer fund thru Bolante! Tapos ay magsasabi siya na ang bilhin na lang ay basic needs, e wala ngang pambili! Ano ang wawaldasin?! Namputsang buhay pinoy sa ilalim ng pamamahala ng poser president!

    Pinas is most corrupt Asian country because of the Tianak who is telling us now to spend only on basic necessities! Siya na ang bahalang bumili ng luxuries! Kailangang kumilos ng pisikal ang mga pinoy! GRABE!

  5. vic - March 20, 2007 11:44 pm

    Famous quotes of President Arroyo:
    On Hunger:
    I shall continue to see to it that nobody is left behind in the social payback of economic growth, and fighting hunger shall be a constant priority in strategic and immediate levels.

    On Extra-Judicial Killings:

    I will leave no stones unturned and determine to solve each and every case of extra-judicial killings.

    On the first quote as she brags how she improves the economy, she also admits that hunger is also growing. The improvement of the country’s economy doesn’t correlate with the results, more hunger. The math seems not right here…

    On Extra- Judicial killings:

    It seems this one was just spoken in the winds. No results whatsoever. So the Ever Genius Secretary of Justice (what a misnomer!!!) Came up with a solution: give it another name; no more extra-judicial killings, just “unexplained killings” and all we need are Perry Masons, Sherlock Holmes and maybe James Bonds to “explain these killings”, just explain, don’t worry about solving them… bravo Raulooo you exceeded yourself this time. But we still have to come with a Category to which you will be nominated to and awarded the first winner and your price will be a trip to a mental institution and have that organ between your two ears examined…

  6. vic - March 20, 2007 11:48 pm

    Instead of Prize I typed price, but anyways it doesn’t really matter, cuz for all of Goria holiguns, it is always the “price” or name my price and I’ll do it for you madame>.

  7. luzviminda - March 20, 2007 11:51 pm

    Ate Ellen,
    I am reposting my comment on the other thread:

    Eto talaga si Gloria oo, SINISISI na naman ang mga Pilipinong wala na ngang pangkain dahil sa mahal ng bilihin dahil sa EVAT/RVAT niya. Spend wisely daw, eh wala ngang sapat na pera ang tao dahil walang trabaho o kulang ang sweldo. OO totoo na may mga taong nakakapag-Starbucks pa, pero makikita mo na iilan lang iyong mga taong yan at nasa business area pa tulad ng Makati. Kung pupunta ka sa Jollibee na pangmasa, makikita mo na karamihan ay mga bata na lang muna ang binibilhan ng mga magulang nila. Di bale na tira na lang ng kanilang mga anak ang kainin ng mga magulang mapagbigyan lang ang kanilang mga anak. Minsan makikita mo na may mga batang lalapit sa iyong mesa at maghihingi ng pagkain maski na yung tira-tira lang kesa halukayin pa nila sa basurahan. At kung papansinin lang ay makikita mo ngayon na mas maraming batang palaboy at gutom at wala sa eskwelahan kesa nuon. Halos lahat ng hagdanan sa LRT ay may mga nanghihingi ng limos at pangkain. Kasalanan nga ba ng mga kapus-palad na ito?

  8. ystakei - March 20, 2007 11:54 pm

    I just made a DVD of all the campaigns against the extrajudicial killings. I am sending this DVD to our parliamentarians to show them what this idiot has been doing just to keep her stolen position.

    Hayup pala ang ginawa sa mga students ng UP na dinukot noong June 2006. Buntis ang isa sa kanila at hinubaran pala sila bago dinala. I bet you, ni-rape na sila at pinatay na! Tang….ummmph! Pakimura na nga lang. The video clips are available in the arkibo sites.

  9. anna de brux - March 20, 2007 11:56 pm

    Luz,

    Re: At kung papansinin lang ay makikita mo ngayon na mas maraming batang palaboy at gutom at wala sa eskwelahan kesa nuon. Halos lahat ng hagdanan sa LRT ay may mga nanghihingi ng limos at pangkain. Kasalanan nga ba ng mga kapus-palad na ito?

    All too brazen reminder of Zimbabwe, the country that used to be one of the two richest nations in Africa, the one with the highest standard of living, the bread basket of Africa, now wallowing in extreme poverty despite their diamond mines!

    Robert Mugabe, the “”elected president” of Zimbabwe has consolidated his wealth by hiding Zimbabwe money in foreign bank accounts in HIS and in the names of member of HIS FAMILY. Exactly like Gloria Pidal!

    The Philippines, from what you have described is clearly the twin of Zimbabwe today, not only in terms of extreme poverty but also in term of leadership with Gloria excelling at being Robert Mugabe Jr.

  10. luzviminda - March 20, 2007 11:59 pm

    Para kay Gloria Engkantada eh “luxuries” na yung ulam, kape, gatas. Ang basic necessities para sa kanya eh yung noodles at kanin na lang ang kainin para magkasya ang pera. Samantalang ang lahat ng pagkain sa loob ng mga refrigirator nila sa Malakanyang ay galing sa pera ng bayan! Ni isang sentimo ay di nila kailangan gumasta para kumain!

    SOBRA NA TALAGA ANG PAGIGING WALANG PUSO AT KALULUWA NITONG MGA KASUMPA-SUMPANG MGA TAO NA ITO!!!

    That fact that these “squatters” in Malacañang are “living an all-expenses paid lives” by Filipinos’ money for six years already ay talaga namang NAPAKASAKIT Na MARINIG ng mga PILIPINONG NAGUGUTOM!!!

  11. anna de brux - March 21, 2007 12:01 am

    Hahahahahah!

    Vic,

    “But we still have to come with a Category to which you will be nominated to and awarded the first winner and your price will be a trip to a mental institution and have that organ between your two ears examined…”

    Excellent! Let’s hope siRAULO will read Ellen’s entry and your post…

  12. Chona - March 21, 2007 12:06 am

    Just disgusting and heartless!!!! In the first place… the poor hardly have money to spend for food. It The fact remains that the FATMAN has stolen people’s money meant for their food subsidy. Just wondering if anyone truly believes that they have not robbed the Filipino people?

  13. luzviminda - March 21, 2007 12:07 am

    Alam nyo mga ka-blog, feel-na-feel ko ang galit sa puso ko sa mga sinasabi nitong si Gloria Engkantada. Nakakakain pa naman ako ng maayos at minsan ay nakakapag-”dessert” pa pero napakakirot sa puso. Parang hindi yata ako makakatulog sa mga binaggit niya na ito. Lalo na pihado sa mga Pilipinong wala na talagang makain.

    BULAG AT MANHID NA TALAGA ITONG GOBYERNONG ITO SA TUNAY NA KALAGAYAN NG ATING MAMAMAYAN AT BAYAN!!!

  14. anna de brux - March 21, 2007 12:12 am

    Alam mo Luz, I tried to help my brother and his group’s (an NGO) self-reliance livelihood programs in our province by donating funds for their projects and collecting from other willing contributors here.

    He said that because of the rise in petrol costs and other things, it really was very difficult for their group to sustain the programs; he wrote to me and explained that they were forced to close down shops and workshops one by one because they were getting harassed by both leftists and by the military. He finally gave up, bundled his family and moved to Manila recently.

    He refuses to leave Pinas because he says if everyone does, what would happen to Pinas (I suppose it’s anathema to him to allow the Pidals free reign to plunder even the last remaining moral fiber of provincianos like him and by extension, our family and our kababayans!)

    I just received an e-mail from my brother (he’s a campaign manager for one of the party lists for Congress); he’s confirmed that there’s more poverty and more crime than 2 years ago.

  15. luzviminda - March 21, 2007 12:12 am

    I hope the media should make videos showing the disparity of lives our ordinary people have as compared to the lives that these ABOMINABLE ARROYO FAMILY and their allies have.

  16. ystakei - March 21, 2007 12:12 am

    Dagdag. Kukulo ang dugo ninyo kapag nakita ninyo ang ginagawa sa mga rallyist. Anong klaseng pulis ang meron ang Pilipinas ngayon? Dapat talaga hindi mga sundalo ang ginagawang mga pulis!

  17. ystakei - March 21, 2007 12:17 am

    Luz,

    Iyong bigas at ramen na ipinamumudmod ni Tiyanak, blood money ang ibinayad diyan na padded pa ang bills according to my source.

    Kakutsaba daw iyong Fatso. Sila lang ang tumitiba samantalang ang sambayanang pilipino ay kulang na lang na pakainin ng darak!!!

  18. chi - March 21, 2007 12:29 am

    Tuwing magbubukas ng mabahong bibig itong si Tianak ay palpak.
    Kung lumakad naman ay lakad korap! May foot and mouth disease!

  19. cocoy - March 21, 2007 12:37 am

    Habang ang tao ay iniaasa ang buhay niya sa iba, mapagobyerno man o ibang tao ay hindi aasenso.Una pag umaasa ka lang sa gobyerno,lahat ng ipag-uutos sa iyo ng amo mo ay sunud-sunuran ka na lang.Pag umasa ka naman sa mga relatives mo,pati asawa mo na hindi nila gusto ay aapihin nila ng husto.Nasaktan man ang mga iba sa sinabi ni punggok na magtipid may magagawa ba sila?Kung ako ang pinagsabihan ng ganyan ay pasasalamatan ko pa siya,dahil magsisikap ako.
    Nag-hihirap kasi ang mga ibang tao dahil kulang sa diskarte kung papano patakbuhin ang buhay.
    Ang mga iba ay nakikipagsiksikan sa Maynila kahit na malabong may makuhang trabaho.Iniwanan ang buhay probinsya isinangla ang laguerta dahil naniwala sa kuwento ni Dodong na madaling kumita ng pera sa maynila.Ang hindi alam ni Totoy si Dodong pala ay snatcher,Kaya ayun di na makabalik ng probinsya si totoy dahil wala na siyang uuwian.
    Kaming mga Zambaleno ay hindi kami ganyan.Subukin ni punggok na magmiting sa probinsya namin at sasabihin niyang magtitipid kami,sa pagkain baga batuhin pa siya ng sinaing pati na rice coocker.Mayayaman ang mga tao sa probinsya namin,bumubili kami ng galunggong para hindi ulamin kundi ipakain sa alaga naming pusa.Kaya may paninindigan kami kasi hindi namin iniaasa ang buhay namin sa iba kahit na sa gobyerno,kami pa nga ang nagbibigay ng pera sa gobyerno.

  20. Phil Cruz - March 21, 2007 12:42 am

    The gall of this Usurper! This woman just has no sense of propriety, good manners and right conduct. She and her clowns are so desperate and so confused by all the bad press (local and international) she’s getting that she no longer realizes the stupidity of such remarks.

    How the hell can you buy luxuries when you can hardly buy the basics for the family? The nerve to lecture to the poor while she and her family wallow in stolen wealth.

    This woman is going bunkers, I tell you.

  21. Chabeli - March 21, 2007 12:44 am

    Gloria has, once again, added insult to injury by telling “..the poor to spend their income on basic needs instead of luxuries so that their families would have enough to eat.”

    True to form, her statement is one of indifference.

    What is also terrible is when Bunye said that ““There is a need to educate the people on the proper utilization of their meager resources..””

    How the f*ck can you educate a person who has centavoses in his pocket on what to buy ? Is Gloria insulting the poor ? Kaya nga sinabi INVOLUNTARY HUNGER !!!! Hellooooooo ????

    Majority of our poorest of poor are literally starving to death because of CORRUPTION & GREED. Who of them wished this upon of themselves ? They are helpless & do not not carry a voice. But, Gloria is acting as if she is their voice !

    Under Gloria’s gov’t, “the degree of hunger remains at a record 19 percent since November 2006.” Which tells me that she has NOT done anything since to alleviate the plight of these unfortunate people.

    What gall does Gloria have to say that “..the issue “cannot be totally attributed to poverty and lack of opportunity but also to the spending patterns of the people”” ?????? What is there to analyse ?

    Gloria also said that the “..government takes reports on hunger incidence “with a sense of urgency” and wants to pinpoint specific areas where hunger is worst so that interventions can be mounted.”

    Does Gloria suffer from brain damage ? What in the word, “HUNGRY” does she not understand ? Maybe she lacks brain food that’s why her comments/reactions are off !

    To paraphrase the words of Bunye: “There is a need to educate GLORIA on the proper utilization of COUNTRY’S meager resources..””

    Tonta !

  22. Chabeli - March 21, 2007 12:46 am

    ..Don’t tell me that none of these unfortunate people were not affected by the E-VAT. Thanks to Gloria’s Lapdog, Ralph Recto !

  23. Phil Cruz - March 21, 2007 12:48 am

    Did you feel it? Yesterday? Was that thunder and earthquake shaking and jolting the country?

    Nope, guys. That was just the whole nation bursting into uncontrollable laughter after Bunye announced that the government would act as the poll watchdog.

  24. Phil Cruz - March 21, 2007 1:01 am

    So now Blanquita Pelaez admits it was really Malacañang, through its then presidential chief of staff, Michael Defensor, who worked on her and her daughter, beauty contestant Joelle, for them to file a bogus lawsuit against detained President Joseph Estrada.

    This Mini Mike is one sneaky fellow. And he made quite a few visits to Erap all that time leading the poor man to believe that little Mike’ heart was grieving at Erap’s situation.

    So young and yet so Gloria-like already.

  25. Phil Cruz - March 21, 2007 1:05 am

    I am not an Erap fan, but compared to Gloria, Erap was an angel.

  26. Phil Cruz - March 21, 2007 1:08 am

    El Shaddai leader Mariano “Bro. Mike” Velarde says “Tito” Sotto and Tessie Oreta, must explain why they bolted the opposition and moved to the administration camp. This means he won’t endorse them or at least he’s telling his flock these two are no good. He should add Mini Mike to his list.

  27. Chabeli - March 21, 2007 1:09 am

    Imagine Gloria tell the new grads of the PMA “..to protect the republic from those who would sow terror.”

    The people should have told the new grads of the PMA “..to protect the republic from those who Cheat, Lie & Steal.”

  28. luzviminda - March 21, 2007 1:11 am

    “Nag-hihirap kasi ang mga ibang tao dahil kulang sa diskarte kung papano patakbuhin ang buhay.”

    Cocoy,
    Katulad ba ng diskarte ni Gloria at kalayado niya? Na lahat ay puro ilegal? Kaya naman NAPAKASARAP NG BUHAY!

    The fact is, these people I believe are doing the best they can to have a decent living. Ang kaso, most are not given opportunities. Oppostunity to have good education to help them uplift their lives. Kung makikita mo ang mga probinsiya ay kulang ng paaralan at mga guro. Pag napapanood ko nga si Mel Tiangco sa Channel 7 sa kanilang Foundation na tumutulong magpagawa ng eskwelahan ay nagtatanong ako kung saan napupunta ang mga pondo para dito.
    At kung makatapos naman ng pag-aaral ay wlala namang mapasukang pirmihang trabaho kundi mga pa-ekstra-ekstra lang. Kaya ang pagkain nila Pa-ekstra-ekstra lang din. Ibig sabihin, KAKAIN lang kung may PAMBILI!

  29. luzviminda - March 21, 2007 1:54 am

    From ABS.CBN website:

    Martin Rellin, the director of the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (PAGASA), said that its pool of weather forecasters had fallen to dangerously low levels.

    Of 20 forecasters eight years ago, only 12 now remain — and half of those are applying for jobs abroad, he said.
    —————

    Ibig sabihin nito ay kahit na nga yung may mga trabaho na ay hindi na rin kasya ang suweldo, dahil sa mahal na bilihin at hirap ng buhay sa Pilipinas at kailangan mangibangbansa pa. Patunay na BAGSAK ANG EKONOMIYA NI GLORIA KAYA HINDI MARAMDAMAN NG MGA PILIPINO!

  30. Diego K. Guerrero - March 21, 2007 2:18 am

    RE: Gloria Arroyo said: “the poor to spend their income on basic needs instead of luxuries so that their families would have enough to eat”.

    Voodoo economics! How the poor will spend only on basic needs when big numbers of them have no source of income/less income? It means that no income then nothing to spend. It’s another AMPAW approach by Pandaka Igorota to curb severe hunger in the Philippines. *Band-Aid (R)* solution is the best idea coming from doctor of economics(voodoo economics).

  31. cocoy - March 21, 2007 2:34 am

    Luzviminda;
    Ganito kasi iyan,kung papano ka magkaroon ng buhay.Ang iba kasi kahit hirap na sa buhay sa halip na solusyon ang hanapin ay hindi kundi panibagong problema.Alam nila na mahirap na nga ang buhay,ang mga iban ay walang kontrol hangang sa dumarami ang mga anak.Ang mga naghihirap naman dyan ay iyong mga dose-dosenang pamilya.Alam nila na sapat lang sa dalawa o tatlong tao ang kinikita nila bakit dadagdagan pa?Kapag inilabas mo ang anak sa mundo ay problema mo iyan hangang hindi siya mabuhay mag-isa.Pakainin mo iyan,damitan at paaralin.Ngayon dahil hindi sapat ang kinkita mong pangsuporta sa maraming anak,isisisi mo ba ang problema sa gobyerno?Kahit na sino pang presidente ang ilagay mo dyan kung ganyan ang katwiran ng mga pilipino ay hindi talaga aasenso.
    Hindi ako nagmamayabang sa iyo kung mayayaman kaming mga zambaleno,dahil karamihan noon ang may tinamasang magandang pagkakataon,karamihan sa Zambaleno pagkatapos ng high school ay tuloy na sa SanDiego para mag training sa U.S.Navy.Halos lahat ng Bayan sa buong Zambales,Noon tinutuli na sila pagdating nila ng second year high school para pagdating ng Mayo ay ibibyahe na sila sa San Diego.Iyong mga hindi nag navy ay nag-aral karamihan na kursong kinuha ay doctor.Ngayon retired na ang karamihan at umuwi na sa Zambales.Ang isang retirado dyan ay tumatangap ng mahigit dalawang libong dolyares isang buwan,itimes,times mo na,magkano iyan.Ang mga iba naman kung hindi man nakapag navy naging U.S.Naval base employee naman sa Olongapo,nagkaroon din sila ng pagkakataon na makapunta sa Amerika dahil sa federal government service nila.Kaya halos lahat ng mga Zambaleno ay amerikano na rin.

  32. paquito - March 21, 2007 2:52 am

    si GLORIA walang kakwenta kwenta ang mga pinagsasasabi niya—–WAG KANG MANGURAKOT GLORIA/MIKE at wag nyo nakawin kaban ng bayan. Period. Yon lang yon, pa-speech-speech ka pa sa Tarlac yon lang ang solution don, ipapasa pa ni GLORIA sa taong bayan na magtipid daw—-one more thing itong maganak ng mga Arroyo e ginagawng hanapbuhay ang paglilingkod sa bayan (kasi gusto ring magnakaw) tignan nyo halos lahat ng anak nya, kamaganak gusto nang maging politiko, marami namang trabaho dyan ah? Malaki ba sweldo? Hindi naman maliit lang ang sweldo nila sa gobyerno PERO MALAKI KURAKOT!!! Alam na namin yan magbabayad kayo sa taong bayan sa darating na panahon., tapos pagtitipidin nyo mga mahihirap? TIGNAN NYO LALONG MAGHIHIRAP ANG MAMAMAYANG PILIPINO. hindi kayo karapat-dapat dyan.

  33. sleeplessinmontreal - March 21, 2007 2:52 am

    Luzviminda

    Baka kaya may katotohanan ang umiikot na balita na ang dahilan kung bakit nag-aalisan and leaving for abroad ang mga weather forecasters ay gusto nang kunin ng Malacanang ang function sa pagdaya ng panahon.

    Marami kasi ang nangangamba na nagawa nila sa pamamagitan ng census, lumaki ang bilang ng mga may trabaho at gumanda ang ekonomiya sa pamamagitan ng statistics. Ngayon, pati ang panahon, gusto yata nilang kontrolin.

    Kung ating matatandaan, ang Asean Summit sa Cebu last December ay na-postponed due to bad weather. Malacanang ang nagpalabas ng typhoon signal na ipinagtaka ng mga taga PAGASA dahil wala silang ginawang anunsyo sapagkat wala namang bagyo sa bandang Cebu. Ito marahil ay hindi na masikmura ng mga professional at well-trained weather forecasters.

  34. paquito - March 21, 2007 3:04 am

    Mga igan sabi ni GLORIA mura daw ang PECHAY at magtatanim daw sila sa SENADO———hahahahahahahaha, nakakatawa ka GLORIA lokohin mo si MIKE —–maraming tao roon hndi dahil sa TU/GLORIA, marami tao kasi baka may pamimigay ka pera.

  35. cocoy - March 21, 2007 3:08 am

    Paquito:
    Nasa tao na iyan ang problema at hindi sa gobyerno.Una kung kain tulog ka lang,tapos isisi mo ang kahirapan sa gobyerno at ayaw mong magbanat ng buto,aanseso ka ba.Bigyan kita ng eksampol,bakit ang mga ita sa zambales ay hindi sila nagrereklamo?hindi sila government employee,dahil alam nilang mabuhay.Mayaman sa isda ang karagatan natin,maluwang at matataba ang mga lupain.Kung ang gingawa ba ng tao habang naghihintay ng aanihin sa itinamin ay umisip ng ibang paraan kung ano ang pagkakakitaan ay hindi siya maghihirap,mag-alaga ng kambing,baka o kalabaw,walang malaking gastos d’yan kasi nabubuhay iyan sa tubig at damo.Magtanim tanim ng mga gulay.Sa Zambales maluwang ang mga lupain na walang tanim,nangangailan ang mga may ari ng lupain doon ng magtatanim sa kanilang mga bukirin.Sa probinsya namin wala pa akong nakitang pamilya na walang maisaing.Pumunta ka sa baybayin ng dagat pag gabi at pagmasdan mo ang karagatan,parang mga alitaptap na kumikislap ang mga ilaw dahil nangingisda sila doon.Hindi nila iniaasa ang buhay nila sa gobyerno.

  36. Emilio_OFW - March 21, 2007 3:11 am

    Iyan ang mga pangungusap ng isang tao na hindi nakaranas talaga ng kahirapan sa buhay! Hypocrite!

    …kung naranasan niyang maghanap ng mga military trucks noong 1960′s na kung saan pumipila ang mga tao upang bumili ng limitadong dalawang “ganta” na bigas…

    …kung naranasan niyang ihalo ang giniling na mais sa bigas noong 1970′s upang dumami ang pagsasaluhan ng pamilya sa hapag kainan na ang ulam ay pritong isda…

    …kung naranasan niya na ang pinakapanganay na anak lamang ang kakain ng almusal dahil siya ay pumapasok sa paaralan (bilang pag-asa ng pamilya kapag nakatapos) samantalang ang ibang kapatid ay naghahanap ng lumang diyaryo at bote sa mga basurahan…

    …kung naranasan niyang matulog na kumakalam ang sikmura dahil walang makain sa hapunan…

    DIYAN AY MANINIWALA AKO NA MAYROON SIYANG KARAPATAN NA MAGSALITA NG GANYAN. NGUNI’T HABANG WALA SIYANG GINAGAWA AY HUWANG MUNA SIYANG MAG-YAKITTY, YAKITTY, YAK!

    LALO LANG NIYANG INAAGLAHI ANG MGA MAHIHIRAP!

  37. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 21, 2007 3:30 am

    Chabeli says:
    “To paraphrase the words of Bunye: “There is a need to educate GLORIA on the proper utilization of COUNTRY’S meager resources..””

    Tonta !”

    Nasapul mo, Chabeli! Hindi talaga lulusot dito sa mga alagad ni Ellen ang kabulastugan ni Gloria. Pero BEWARE, those lines being spun by Gloria herself are the very same ones I heard from Joey Salceda two episodes before Winnie Monsod and Oca Orbos’ “Debate” finally went off air.

    What do I mean? Malacañang has zeroed in on taxes on text messaging to beef up its revenues this year. No wonder, Recto was retained in the admin slate. But she needs a Senate majority to ensure her chosen one gets the Ways and Means Committee chairmanship.

    Taxes on text is a brainchild of Salceda and the manner how Gloria and Bunye (mis)use the opportunity to test the people’s sentiment by flying this weather balloon, albeit comically when taken in the context of extreme poverty.

    Do these freaks really think the hungry Filipinos living in dumpsites, esteros, under bridges and Napocor towers even own a cellphone?

  38. artsee - March 21, 2007 3:37 am

    Buti ang mga mahihirap ang pinagsabihan ni tiyanak hindi ako.

  39. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 21, 2007 4:02 am

    Maniwala kayo sa akin, lahat nang sinasabi niya ngayon, preparasyon lang yan para sa pagpapatupad ng mas maramimng bagong buwis.

    Ganito lagi ang dayalog ngayon, pansinin ninyo: “Mga Pilipino, maganda na ang ekonomiya diba? Sabi ko na sa inyo, dahil iyan sa EVAT at RVAT. Marami nang proyektong pang-imprastraktura na SISIMULAN ngayong taon! Mas marami tayong panggastos ngayon para sa mga proyektong ang makikinabang ay ang MAHIHIRAP. Dahil iyan sa inyong paghihigpit ng sinturon, kaya naman nagpapasalamat ako sa pakikiisa ninyo.”

    Pag laging ganyan ang sinasabi, merong matinding niluluto. Bagsak na naman kasi ang koleksiyon ng BIR at Customs. At napakarami na namang nautang sa World Bank at ADB ngayong taon pa lang.

    Yung pagpapababa ng budget deficit noong Jan-Feb na dahil daw sa mahusay na pagma-manage ng ekonomiya ay resulta ng pagbenta ng bilyun-bilyong halaga ng shares sa PLDT, kaya one-time lang ang epekto niyan. Wala na ring public work project ang magre-release ng pondo mula March hanggang Mayo kaya mas bababa pa ang deficit, kahit pa inflation ang resulta sa dami ng perang pakakawalan niya para panggastos ng mga kandidato ng Demonya. Makatapos naman ang eleksiyon, pinupuntirya naman ibentang muli ang Masinloc Power Plant para mapanatili ang mababang deficit. Paano na kaya kung naibenta nang lahat?

    Kita ninyo’t hindi na muling nagpatuloy ang paglakas ng Piso, kahit pa muling humina ang dolyar, kasi ang mga itinagong pera sa mga bangko sa Europe at Asia at naririyan pa at ipinantutustos pa ng mga TUTA sa kampanya. Sa palagay ko nga lalong bababa ang halaga ng Piso pabalik sa 49-50 per dollar kasi maraming semicon companies ang mag-iimport ng mga materyales dahil sa inaasahang pagdami ng orders dulot ng paglabas ng Microsoft ng Vista OS, siyempre, tataas ang demand sa mga bagong PC. Sa loob pa ng anim na buwan bago maging dolyar uli iyan pag nai-deliver na sa mga PC assemblers ang mga semi-finished products.

    Ang prediksiyon kong magtataas o magda-dagdag muli ng buwis ay hindi malayong mangyari. Pustahan tayo.

    Kahit pa ipaputol ko ang leeg ni BenignO!

  40. BOB - March 21, 2007 4:35 am

    Ibig sabihin ni Glueria , Luxuries na yong kumain ang mahihirap na tao nang (1) isang beses isang araw..kailangan every other day lang ang kain..get’s nyo….

  41. cocoy - March 21, 2007 4:44 am

    Tongue:
    Tulid ang linya mo,pero bakit si BenignO na naman,puro na nga siya garote tapos gusto mo GOMBURZAhin pa siya.
    Iyang sinasabi mong Masinloc,ang mga pera ng nagbenta ng mga lupa na iyan ay tumutubo ng interest sa bangko,kilala ko ang lahat ng nagbenta riyan,kami lang ang hindi nagbenta ng lupa d’yan sa Bani dahil ayaw naming mawala ang minana manin sa aming mga ninuno.Daang milyong ang offer sa amin noon pero,aanhin ang pera,pang good-time lang,noway?Ngayon tinatawaran na naman ng triple,sabi namin kahit na nga ang boung Napocor ang kapalit ay hindi kami papayag.Sa katunayan lupain lang ng pamilya namin ang naiwanan dyan.Mga nagbenta ng mga lupa dyan ay karamihan dito naninirahan sa America.Hindi nagagalaw ang mga milyones nila sa bangko.

  42. cocoy - March 21, 2007 4:53 am

    Tongue:
    Tuwid ha! hindi tulid,siguro pag tuli mas maganda siguro.

  43. sleeplessinmontreal - March 21, 2007 4:57 am

    Tongue T

    Tama po ang inyong sinabi na magtataas na naman ng buwis sapagkat kinakalampag ng World Bank at IMF. Ang unang puntirya ay ang tax sa text messaging at tiyak magaalma ang madlang pipol dito. Ayon sa aking nabasa, kahit malaki ang tax collections dahil sa EVAT at RVAT, mas malaki pa ang public borrowings, both local and foreign loans, upang mapunuan ang budget deficit. Hindi nila ito sinasabi sa publiko.

  44. sleeplessinmontreal - March 21, 2007 5:04 am

    Mang Bob

    Ang lupit naman talaga ni Mrs. Arroyo. Isang beses na nga lang kumain, luxury na. Pero sa ganda ng pagkaka-english ni Mrs. Arroyo, parang gusto niyang ipahiwatig, hindi lang every other day na lang kumain. Siguro, ibig niyang mangyari, huwag nang kumain, mangisay na lang at tuluyan nang mamatay sa gutom. Ang lupit!

  45. paquito - March 21, 2007 5:38 am

    Si Gloria kung talagang gusto nya umunlad ang pamumuhay ng Pilipino,kung gusto nya umunlad ang Pilipinas at sincere sya dapat unang-una nyang gawin ay magkaroon ng pagpapahalaga sa TAO——hindi yong sasabihin nya na mura na raw ang pechay. FAKE!!!—Sa pamamagitan ng pagpapahalaga sa TAO mgkakaroon siempre ng mga karapatang pantao including herself—-e ngayon parang sya lang ang may karapatan. Isang salamin ng maunlad na pamumuhay at maunlad na bayan ang mga karahasan nangyayari tulad ng nangyari kay Rep. Satur Ocampo—–Sa tagpong yon maunlad ba raw ang Pilipinas—-HINDI GLORIA. Yang pagaresto ng mga bagitong pulis kay Rep.Ocampo ay nagmula sa kataastasan—at sa iyo yon GLORIA para lamang maipamukha mo sa US na na-solusyunan mo na ang extra judicial killings sa bansa. Sa gobyernong ito marami na namatay at ito ang gobyernong yaks!!!

  46. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 21, 2007 7:54 am

    Pambihira, mas dumadalas na ang server error ngayon ng blog, Ellen. Pagkatapos i-display ang main page, error pag nag-click ng links.

    Pwede bang mahingi ang IP address ng server, Ellen? It’s made up of 4 groups of 1 to 3 digits separated by dots. (example: 105.231.126.62) Gusto ko lang maconfirm na hindi nare-redirect ang links to some other site. Thanks.

  47. cocoy - March 21, 2007 8:06 am

    Itong mga susunod na araw na darating ay maghihingalo na naman ang mga masa dahil tatas na naman ang mga bilihin,kasi tumataas na naman ang halaga ng langis.Dito sa lugar namin ang halaga ng 1 gallon gasoline ay $3.25 at tumataas araw araw.

  48. chi - March 21, 2007 8:07 am

    ccocoy,

    Maswerte kayo sa Zambales at mayaman sa natural resources ang probinsya mo, sa kabila ay bundok at sa kabila ay dagat. Ang ibang lalawigan ay tuyo at hindi maganda ang lupa na pagtamnan. At kung magtanim man ng palay ay kinukurakot naman ang para sa fertizer ng mga magsasaka! Noong 2004 na ako ay umuwi, ang dalawang taniman ay walang inani ang mga magsasaka dahil sa ang P8M pondo ay ninakaw ni Glueria thru Bolante.

    Nais man ng mga tao na magtanim ay wala silang pambili ng seeds at fetrilizer dahil sa hirap ng buhay, walang naaani. Sa halip na gumawa ng trabaho sa loob ng bansa ang bruhang tianak ay minamabuti pa niya na palakasin ang human export! Bakit? Kasi ay ito ang bumubuhay sa kanyang economiya at bulsa. Ano ang mapapala niya sa mahihirap na magsasaka? Wala, kaya fetilizer fund na lang ang kanyang ninakaw!

    Maraming pinoy ang masipag pero walang tulong buhat sa gobyerno. Kung meron lang hanapbuhay sa loob ng bansa ay baka iyon lamang talagang mga tamad ang magutom. Magsisimula ng negosyo ang mga mahihirap, walang magpapautang dahil hindi makakabayad! Galing sa pamahalaan ni Tianak, tindahan ni Gloria ang labas na hindi tumatagal dahil walang pandugtong!

    Ang mga produkto sa malalayong lugar ay hindi maibenta sa tamang presyo dahil walang market roads, etc, etc, etc.

    Kung ang pekeng pamahalaan man lang sana ay salubungin ang mga tao sa gitna, e di hindi gaanong magugutom ang mga tao. Ayan nga at na-BOOO siya kamakailan lang dahil wala palang nakinabang sa kanyang ipinagmamalaking pantulong kababaihan!
    Ang deprensya ng babaeng baliw na ito ay hindi niya nais malaman ang tunay na lagay ng mahihirap, kaya ang kanyang mga salita ay palpak!

    Ano ang sabi ng tianak? Hindi raw maaring iyong mayayaman ang bumaba, kailangan daw iyong mahihirap ang tumataas! Hindi naman nagbigay ng solusyon kung papaano makakataas ang pobreng mga nasa ibaba! Poser lang kasi! Tanga!

  49. chi - March 21, 2007 8:33 am

    Emil,

    Natumbok mo! Talaga, kung naranasan ni Tianak ang mga inilista sa poste mo sa unahan ay meron siyang karapatan na magsalita na ang bilhin na lang nga basic needs “NGUNI’T HABANG WALA SIYANG GINAGAWA AY HUWANG MUNA SIYANG MAG-YAKITTY, YAKITTY, YAK!”

    Huwag daw ibili ng luxuries ang income. Naniniwala ba s’ya na may income ang mahihirap?! Kung may income e di hindi sana gutom!

  50. cocoy - March 21, 2007 8:37 am

    Chi;
    Gaga pala ano?Papano aangat ang mga mahihirap kung hindi sila tutulungan?Kailangan ay magkaroon tayo ng distribution of wealth.Kailangan kumilos na ang mga mayayaman at magpautang na sila sa mahihirap pang puhunan.
    Sa nakikita ko dito kay punggok ang gusto niyang mangyari ay kailangan majority sa populsyon ay mahihirap para madali niyang makontrol.Kasi iyong mga may kaya sa buhay ay hindi niya madiktahan.Pag ang lahat ng tao sagana sa buhay wala ng makikinig sa kanya.Ang mga Elected officers sa probinsya namin ay nanunuyo sa tao at kailangang maganda ang pamamalakad nila kung hindi ipi-pipol power sila.Sa amin lahat ay nakakapag-aral,maraming nag-eesponsor ng mga schoolarships.Mayroon doong malaking colleges of fisheries at ngayon ay University na,libo-libo ang mga studyante.Natututo sila sa taman paraan ng pangingisda kaya maraming lagi huling sariwang isda na huli sa dagat.Ang mga hospital sa amin ay libre pati pa gamot at mga laboratory,kaming mga nandito ay may malaking association kami na tumutulong sa mga kababayan namin.Nagdodonate kami ng mga gamot,mga medical equipment at mga gamit ng mga mag-aaral namin sa elementary.Ang isang eksampol,kung natatatandaan mo iyong nanalo ng isang milyon sa Las Vegas iyong WOWOWIE.Idinonate niya ang panalo niya tulong sa mga kababayang tiga Masinloc.Kita mo pag ang mga tao ay nagtutulong-tulong,mahihiya ang mga opisyales ng mga gobyerno na ibinoto natin.Mga simbahan sa mga bayan ng Zambales pinagtulong-tulungan naming mga Zambaleno na pagandahin.Kung nagagaw namin,bakit hindi magawa ng mga ibang probinsya.Mga munispyo ay pagandahan sa mga bayan ng Zambales.
    Kaya iyan ang ayaw ni punggok na mag-kaisa para madali niyang madiktahan ang mga tao.Subukan niya sa amin,baka hindi lang boooo ang abutin niya.Sa probinsya namin ay hindi namin pinapapasok iyang mga malalaking negosyo,dahil iniisip namin ang kapakanan ng mga maliliit naming kababayan na negosyante.Iyang Jolibee,Mcdo.Mercury hangang Gapo na lang sila.Hindi papayag ang mga probincial at municipal officials namin kahit lagyan pa sila ng kahit magkano,dahil may paninindigan kaming mga Zambaleno.Kung nagagawa namin bakit hindi magawa ng ibang bayan.Hindi kami umaasa sa gobyerno,ang gobyerno ang umaasa sa amin.

  51. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 21, 2007 8:41 am

    If Gloria is really sincere (is she ever?) in her fight against poverty, she should start by ordering the DAR to immediately transfer the CARP lands to the hunger-striking farmers who for months have demonstrated their disgust over that department’s dilly-dallying of the supposed award of farm lands to beneficiaries in Negros.

    The landowner, of course, is well-connected to the powers that be. Bobby Cuenca was a former “balae” of Iggy “I-am-the-real-Jose-Pidal” Arroyo by erstwhile marriage of his daughter to Iggy’s son. The farmers have been on hunger strike outside DAR’s gates for months now and several were replaced by a new batch when only 6, 4 women and 2 men, of the original group remained despite failing health which forced the others to return to Negros for the meantime. The lots were awarded years ago but never got transfered to this day.
    —–
    Another scam making the rounds of financial circles is the acknowledgement of the Gov’t of CDCP Mining’s debts which, despite the expiry of the prescribed period for claims, the gov’t seems to be eagerly volunteering to pay an already non-existing debt, I’m told. CDCP Mining is a sister of Tollways operator CDCP, now PNCC.

    CDCP, headed before by, incidentally, another Cuenca, incurred debts with Marubeni in the 70′s. Marubeni sold the debt papers to a nondescript, unscrupulous Atlantic island-registered company. The circumstances surrounding this company and the deal has “MONEY LAUNDERING”, “DUMMY”, and “SCAM” written all over it.

    What is shocking that after the legal prescribed period had already lapsed, administration people are working for the payment of SEVERAL BILLIONS of Pesos! I forgot the name of the company that is supposed to benefit from the debt payments. I have yet to see it making the news. What is even more appalling is that the company gets exclusive rights to all toll fees to be collected for about 45 years with not a cent going to the government my friend tells me! I’m sure they’re even working out that future maintenance expenses be shouldered by DPWH.

    Do you still remember when Gloria issued an EO preventing PNOC’s resigned president Mañalac from negotiating contracts with an exploration company registered in the Bahamas? Then later awarding contracts to an unknown asset-managememnt company? The modus operandi are very similar to CDCP’s case.

    I won’t be surprised if the paper trail leads to LTA bldg. Again!

  52. chi - March 21, 2007 8:49 am

    Oopps, halos P800M (not P8M) ang kinurakot ni Tianak sa mga magsasaka!

  53. chi - March 21, 2007 8:55 am

    “Sa probinsya namin ay hindi namin pinapapasok iyang mga malalaking negosyo,dahil iniisip namin ang kapakanan ng mga maliliit naming kababayan na negosyante.”

    Tama ‘yan Cocoy. Infact, kahit sa US ay maraming mga towns na hindi nagpapasok ng Walmart dahil ang katwiran nila ay mamamatay ang maliliit na negosyo sa kanilang mga bayan.

    Sa Pinas, tingnan ninyo ang nangyari sa Bagiuo, ayon namatay ng tuluyan ang maliliit na negosyo at malaki ang unemployment dahil nakapasok na sina Henry Sy!

    Mabubuti ang inyong mga local officials sa Zambales kung sila ay hindi nagpapakorap!

  54. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 21, 2007 8:55 am

    Cocoy, I have a friend in Iba who recently bought a beach front property. But just after we entered his gate, he hurriedly alighted from the van, ran up to a wandering cow, tugged on the ropes, tied it to a coconut tree and quickly returned to the van and backed up. Whoa! What was that all about? I realized we were on the “runway” and a 4-seater plane was about to land!

    I told my friend, “Bilib ako sa iyo, pare. May airfield pala itong property mo.” To which he replied, “Tanga, sa gobyerno ‘yang airport!”

  55. we-will-never-learn - March 21, 2007 9:07 am

    Its not surprising that this evil Fake and her administration don’t understand the poor because they never visit the really poor Filipino. Whenever they are photographed with the poor these people in the photograph are the administrations ‘RENTA-CROWD-POOR’ handpicked in advance of any visit to a poor area.
    Come to Mindanao and i’ll show you children leaving their basic homes without having had breakfast because there’s no food on the table. Mothers crying because they can’t find work to suppliment their household bills and put food on the table. Does the economics expert the evil Fake woman she is care about the poor, she don’t give a FFF..Fig about the poor because she and her administration cant earn anything for their own pockets by helping the poor. If you said that this administration have no love for this country of our, I would agree with that.
    Lets not start knocking the poor, Enough is Enough surely!

  56. Ellen - March 21, 2007 9:07 am

    Tongue, wow! I’m speechless. (re your above anecdote).

    Re IP address, my administrator will take care of that. Yes, this blog is being subjected to all sorts of hacking attempts. It just means that we are making them uncomfortable.

    I thank you all for being so patient and persistent in visiting despite the difficulties.

  57. Reyna Elena - March 21, 2007 9:09 am

    The who?! The what?! Spend to what?! Eh, eto ako! OFW! Isang kabang dolyares ginapadala ko sa aking Lupang Hinirang! Hangga ngayon! Kinakalawang na latang darigold pa rin ang korona ko becoz the government could not even help me with my small business when I went home to Manila in 2005 and started my bizness and the reason whey I have to go back sa Estados Unidos para magpa=alila is just this! All the @#$%^&!@BLAG!Q!@# government can tell me is another lunatic crap of insane shit to shun what?! what was that again?! Well, what about THEM?! WHAT ABOUT THEM?!

    I am back outside of my lupang sininlangan! Nag=papaalila dahil these people who are supposed to manage the $12billion dollars that we send can only tell me to shun th gaddarn WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN!?!Q@WEROP{!!!

    ~~*hati katawan*~~ ~~FLY TO PASIG~~ (punyeta silaaa~) !@#$%^BLAG!

  58. Ellen - March 21, 2007 9:10 am

    Chabeli, re Blanquita. Looks like someone reneged on the promised payment. Blackmail. That’s their favorite game.

    And it looks like that’s the language Gloria. Defensor and company understand so well. Look at cesar montano and kiram. They are now quiet and back to the fold after the party promised to take care of their needs. Why won’t Pelaez use the same trick?

    Aren’t you surprised that Celia “Maricel” Suarez’s disbarment suit resurfaced now?

    And who are people vulnerable to blackmail? Kung wala kang katarantaduhan na ginawa, why would you be vulnerable to blackmail?

  59. we-will-never-learn - March 21, 2007 9:38 am

    We need a few more people to come forward and reveal the truth of whats happening within this administration. Its about time a group of military & police came forward and put their cards on the table to reveal corruption in this administration. ( pigs might fly! – sorry about the pun) But I’m afraid they don’t have the balls or love of country to do that.

  60. we-will-never-learn - March 21, 2007 9:47 am

    I’m vulnerable to Email…spam…lots of it! (smile)

  61. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 21, 2007 10:01 am

    Reyna Elena,
    Kakaloka ka! Lata ng Darigold pala ang korona mo. Hahaha! Tagal nang walang Darigold! Huwag kang mag-alala, pag-uwi mo papalitan natin iyan ng container ng Dairy Queen Margarine!

  62. Reyna Elena - March 21, 2007 10:22 am

    @TonGuE-tWisTeD,

    You see, katago tago yan nang nanay ko sa baul becoz ma madir got some foresight na me unano daw na magiging pasig river klider and that our economy is gonna go haywire and am i not gonna be able to buy a sparkling ang glittering korona kaya ayan! hangga ngayon latang darigold pa rin! Signs of times ika nga! At least, am sticking to the rule shunning the luxury of having a Mikimoto crown wid pearls!

    Ano kaya ang susunod na presidential advice? No lunch? Tipidin and we all just have babolgam?!

  63. taipan88 - March 21, 2007 10:48 am

    How insensitive!
    gloria says that becoz she doesn’t know HOW the ordinary Juan-de-la-Cruz lives….she has no idea whatsoever! She has always been well-provided for by the remnants from her father’s stonehill connection and now, her husband’s MONEY-pulations….
    Let gloria see REALITY:
    *Punta ka sa palengke, mga mamimili bumibili ng pakonti-konti, kasipinipilit pagkasiyahin ang kakaunting kita sa nagdaang araw….KUNG merong kinita, ha?

    **Punta ka sa mga bahay-bahay nang malaman mo ang TUNAY NA STATE OF THE NATION.Makikita mong merong mga pamilya na hindi kumakain ng 3 beses isang araw. Buti ka pa, pera ng Bayan [tax natin yun!] ang binibili sa mga nilalamon mo sa Malacanang, ayup ka!

    ***Punta ka sa mga supermarkets, at tingnan mo kung magkano ang mabibili ng sweldo ng ordianryong mamamayan….Kung paano may dala2ng calculator ang mamimili at binibilang ang pinamili bago pa man makapunta sa Cashier, dahil baka magkulang ang dalang pera.

    ****Punta ka sa kalsada at nang malaman mo kung paanong nagtitiis sa init ng araw at sa lamig ng ulan ang mga obrerong nagbabanat ng buto para lang makakita ng perang soooobrang kulang para ipakain sa pamilya.

    *****Punta ka sa may riles ng tren, at nang makita mo ang pagkakaiba ng home-along-da-riles at sa La Vista, sa Forbes, o sa Malacanang…

    AYUP ka!

    Nakakapanginig ka ng laman!

    AYUP!

  64. taipan88 - March 21, 2007 10:51 am

    Marami pa yan, kaya lang baka hindi mo mabasa, gloria ang lahat sapagka’t sangkaterba na ang utang mo sa Bayan….

    AYUP KA!

    TAMPALINGAN KEKA, KITA MU!
    ANAK KA NGA NG TATAY MO!

  65. sleeplessinmontreal - March 21, 2007 11:14 am

    Taipan88, Ayup talaga.

    At ito pa. Sa isang gathering, President Arroyo says the world is looking at the Philippines as an economic wonder. Hindi na nanghilakbot!

    O baka naman naniwala sa papuri ni Erap na sa kanyang administration lamang naging number one ang Pilipinas, sa corruption.

  66. Reyna Elena - March 21, 2007 11:25 am

    @sleeplessinmontreal,

    I think it’s really more like: The world is looking at the Philippines Economic Blunder! We are now neck and neck with Cambodia and Laos!!! Yeeeeeyyy!!!

    Pisses me off whenever I read magazines with some stupid title “Economist”! Pwe!!@#$%^&*(! BLAG!

  67. Diego K. Guerrero - March 21, 2007 11:35 am

    Bakit pati sardinas naka-sachet packet? Ibig sabihin ang mga mahihirap hindi na abot kayang bilhin ang isang delatang sardinas. Ito ba ang economic wonder ni Gloriang Tiyanak?

  68. cocoy - March 21, 2007 12:44 pm

    Tongue:
    Alam ko iyong ni landingan ninyo.That’s in Capt.Condrado Yap camp.Di ba magaganda ang mga beach doon,and you expeirence a Zambaleno hospitality.

  69. anthony scalia - March 21, 2007 12:49 pm

    “Yes, this blog is being subjected to all sorts of hacking attempts. It just means that we are making them uncomfortable”

    no, it means hackers know rich people blog here, so they are trying to pierce your database and try to get data such as email addresses.

    “making them uncomfortable”? don’t flatter yourself. unless ‘them’ refers to the hackers hired by spammers. yes, such hackers are uncomfortable because your firewall is effective and they couldn’t deliver to the spammers that hired them

  70. Ellen - March 21, 2007 12:58 pm

    Wow, anthony, alam na alam mo!

  71. Spy - March 21, 2007 1:46 pm

    Gloria is a saint (tingin nya sa sarili nya). She claims that all misfortunes we’re experiencing are not of her doing but of erap, opposition, npa, and recently the false perception of the business expats. Except her.

    She gave a ‘saintly’ advise to the poor to forego luxury so that they wont go hungry.

    Saint Gloria and Archangel Esperon, what a tandem! –they brought the Hell into the Philippines!

  72. Spy - March 21, 2007 1:52 pm

    Si gloria ay hindi lang sinungaling at mata-pobre, insultador pa!

  73. apoy - March 21, 2007 2:08 pm

    ayaw ko nang mag blog. Baka singilin ako ng luxury tax

  74. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 2:17 pm

    Gloria tells poor to shun “luxuries”? but how is she facing the people in her state of the nation addresses? whe she entertains dignitaries? when she welcomes foreign entertainers to perform to her delight?

    isn’t she wearing her most her expensive jewelries? her most fashionable accressories?

    how does her family eat? are they observing/practicing frugality?

    wala na bang alam kundi magkunwari?

  75. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 2:19 pm

    “Gloria is a saint (tingin nya sa sarili nya). She claims that all misfortunes we’re experiencing are not of her doing but of erap, opposition, npa, and recently the false perception of the business expats. Except her.”

    spy, iyan ang palaging sinasabi ni anthony scalia.

  76. Ka Enchong - March 21, 2007 2:22 pm

    Good piece of advice, if:

    1. She went through the difficulties of being poor herself. Alam kaya niya ang pakiramdam ng isang panganay na sa kabila ng hindi iilang scholarship offers e hindi makatuntong man lang sa kolehiyo dahil kailangang magtrabaho para tumulong sa mga magulang na walang kinikita habang nasa picket line?

    2. She is, at least, exerting efforts to show that she is following her own advice- leadership by example is no longer a virtue nowadays. Let her shun her own’s and her family’s luxuries first.

    3. She is 100% sure that those ashe sked to “shun luxuries” have anything to spend at all. Paano magtitipid kung walang titipirin?

  77. Ka Enchong - March 21, 2007 2:23 pm

    The last paragraph should have read:

    3. She is 100% sure that those she asked to “shun luxuries” have anything to spend at all. Paano magtitipid kung walang titipirin?

  78. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 2:47 pm

    haaaay! wala na bang nakakatuwa at makapagpalubag damdaming panghihikayat at makatotohanang maririnig mula kay saytan gloria?

  79. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 2:49 pm

    ayaw pa kasing sabihing tipirin na lamang ng taong bayan ang paghinga sapagkat malapit na ang oras na ito man ay pabubuwisan din niya.

    BUWISEEEEEEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!!!

  80. apoy - March 21, 2007 2:55 pm

    Ano yan Magno? Buwis ng buhay?

  81. nelbar - March 21, 2007 3:05 pm

    iyong mga ekonomista ni GMA sinusukat ang ekonomiya ng bansa sa pamamagitan ng rice dispenser.
    nuon kasi ay di-takal ang bigas mula sa lata ng biskwit.
    pagkatapos ay isasaing sa kaldero na ginagamitan ng uling.

    noong panahon ni fvr, ang lata ng biskwit na dating parisukat ay naging bilog na nuong panahon ni erap.

    kaya asenso na raw ngayon dahil marami nang bumili ng rice dispenser.
    At kung hindi rice cooker ay LPG na ang ginagamit.

  82. cocoy - March 21, 2007 3:16 pm

    Pareng Mrivera at Manong Apoy:
    Ang nakakatakot pag mamatay pala sa pilipinas,kasi nakaburol na ang bangkay ay sisingilin pa pala ng tax.Tapos tax uli for departure,kaya pala nasabi ni fatsu na pupunta siya sa langit at doon niya sisingilin ang unpaid tax for departure from earth at nakaabang na pala siya sa langit.Ganid talaga,ano?

  83. Ka Enchong - March 21, 2007 3:21 pm

    Pareng Cocoy:

    OT: Dinalaw mo pala ang tahanan ko. Nabasa ko lang kahapon ang pahayag mo tungkol sa paglalakbay na iyon. Maraming salamat sa pagdalaw. Sana ay naibigan mo ang mga inimbak kong antigo.

  84. cocoy - March 21, 2007 3:27 pm

    Pareng Ka Enchong;
    Araw-araw nandoon ako sa balconahe mo,nakikinig sa mga harana at ng mga bandorya,nakikinig sa nagmamakata habang pinapatungan ng korona ang reyna.

  85. we-will-never-learn - March 21, 2007 4:14 pm

    psychiatric hospital, for people with mental illnesses: a hospital dedicated to the treatment, care, and protection of people with serious psychiatric disorders who are judged to be unfit or unsafe to be at large.
    She’s on her way Doc. leave a few spare beds more will be on there way shortly!

  86. nelbar - March 21, 2007 4:34 pm

    ilang gatang, ilang ‘cup of rice’ o ilang salop ng bigas ang kinukunsumo ng bawat pamilya sa isang araw o isang linggo?

    sigurado ako itong si Gloria Pidal ay umaasa yan sa mga catering o pa-delivers na pagkain.

    konsyumerismo o kunsimisyon?

    nakakakunsumi na!

  87. anna de brux - March 21, 2007 5:00 pm

    Ellen,

    As you know, I’ve stopped reading Doronila for quite sometime but recently someone from NY sent me Doronila’s latest (?) piece and read the e-mailed attachment more out of habit than anything.

    Well, I was kinda shaken by laughter in the middle of reading Doronila’s article because of the following:

    “The repression cannot be obscured by President Arroyo’s efforts to shift the focus to what she calls the “positive points”— — meaning, the economic achievements which, she claims, have made the Philippines the “economic wonder” that is catching the attention and admiration of investors “who are now seeing a permanent trajectory and political stability.””

    Gloria is TOTALLY OUT OF HER DEPTH or if she isn’t, she is SHITTING the people when she claimed, “have made the Philippines the “economic wonder” that is catching the attention and admiration of investors “who are now seeing a permanent trajectory and political stability.””

    Unblievable. Why? Well, last Saturday, there was a social function here put up by a club of the biggies among Europe’s and US industries and some of the people I talked to POINTEDLY told me that they had once in the distant past thought that Pinas was a good investment ground but they have either pulled out whatever little they’d invested or quit considering Pinas in their investment trajectory preferring Vietnam or even Cambodia to Pinas.

    Main reason: the cost of doing business with the current government, i.e., Gloria Pidal’s, is QUITE EXPENSIVE plus there seems to be NO POLITICAL STABILITY (industry folks who sais this sort of thing were trying to be very polite). Translation: CORRUPTION HAS GONE HAYWIRE and Gloria’s govt is VERY UNSTABLE.

    I told Gloria personally and pointblank sometime in 2002 during a small private dinner in Malacanang that the foreign company I was working for had decided to pull out of Pinas (after having invested big time in Pinas and could’ve been potentially bigger) because of the political instability. I reiterated the same to Toting Bunye when I met him here telling him too that I didn’t believe Europe’s biggies will consider Pinas in terms of bona-fide investments, not in the not too distant future.

    In other words, if what Doronila wrote was what Gloria said, Gloria is either out to CON the electorate with her bombastic pronouncement or she’s GONE OUT of her mind.

    Gloria has got to face realities. No bona fide foreign investor will want to put their money in a country that has a staggering record of corruption in government, particularly when the act of corruption stems from the highest echelons of power and IS SPINNING ABSOLUTELY OUT OF CONTROL.

    Investing in Pinas under Gloria has proven much too difficult (anarchic in the extreme), downright risky, extremely complicated, in other words definitely not worth it.

  88. we-will-never-learn - March 21, 2007 5:07 pm

    Anna:
    As I said “She’s on her way Doc. leave a few spare beds more will be on their way shortly!

  89. anna de brux - March 21, 2007 5:13 pm

    WWNL,

    If only it were true that she’s on her way to a loony tank, I personally would lobby here for industry to consider investing in Pinas, gratis et amore… but (sigh), I wouldn’t waste a minute of my time telling folks here that Pinas ain’t what Gloria is making of it today, a Zimbabwe twin – just ain’t true.

    When she’s gone, industry folks might re-consider Pinas.

  90. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 5:17 pm

    pakisingit naman nito, nakakatuwa talaga:

    Palace to serve as ’07 poll watchdog vs fraud—Bunye

    2007/03/20

    A case of being a cheat to catch a cheat, or a case of a cheat protecting the cheats again?

    Malacañang yesterday made an incredible statement that the Palace will be serving as a watchdog for the May 2007 elections.

    In a statement released yesterday, Press Secretary and presidential spokesman Ignacio Bunye disclosed Malacañang will monitor all types of poll intimidation and fraud, be it on the national or local level.

    “Threats and intimidation shall not be allowed to subvert the democratic choice and we shall check intimidation and fraud at all levels,” Bunye stressed.

    http://www.tribune.net.ph/headlines/20070320hed1.html

  91. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 5:32 pm

    ka enchong, nais ko sanang mangapitbahay sa iyong tahanan, problema ko lang ayaw pumayag ng aming mga bantay (IT department). sayang!

  92. anthony scalia - March 21, 2007 5:34 pm

    To Ellen:

    “Wow, anthony, alam na alam mo!”

    of course. been at the receiving end of hacking attempts din

  93. nelbar - March 21, 2007 5:42 pm

    Mrivera,

    alam mo ba ang salitang “back-rider” sa mga bumibyaheng dyip sa kamaynilaan?

    ito yung minsan na nasa likod ng driver ng dyip o kaya ay sa likod ng pahinante.
    kadalasan ito yung nag-aabot ng bayad ng mga pasahero sa pahinante lalo na kung malayuang pagbiyahe ng dyip.

    karamihan sa mga nakikita kong back rider ay mga bebot o chickababe ng mga pahinante at ni drayberswitlaber!

  94. Chabeli - March 21, 2007 5:45 pm

    Ms. Ellen,

    Tama po kayo in saying that Blanquita Pelaez “unmasked the perpetuators”, so to speak, because some people did indeed “reneged on the promised payment” ! (March 21st, 2007 at 9:10 am) & boy, does Blanquita know how to “use the same trick”. I assure you she is a pro !

    Watching Mike Defensor being interviewed regarding this on GMA 7, I was thinking to myself that it seems he was using his cell phone & he was the one who dialled her #..hmmm, & he had mentioned that he was not really close to her.

    Ah yes, Ms. Ellen, you hit the nail on the head – Blackmail is a favourite past time w/ these types. That’s why I found in so funny when DOJ Gonzalez said that the US was blackmailing the country by using the aid as leverage on the extra-judicial killing. Hahah.

    “Kung wala kang katarantaduhan na ginawa, why would you be vulnerable to blackmail?”

    Tumpak, po kayo, Ms. Ellen !

  95. Chabeli - March 21, 2007 5:53 pm

    Ms. Ellen,

    You asked, “Aren’t you surprised that Celia “Maricel” Suarez’s disbarment suit resurfaced now?” (March 21st, 2007 at 9:10 am).

    The timing, Ms. Ellen, is perfect ! & I am almost 100% sure that there are a whole lot of people who can blackmail Juan Miguel Tuazon-Arroyo & his wife, Gloria Macaraeg Macapagal-Arroyo. It seems they enjoy the game called Blackmail, so that would make them happy & keep them busy. In the end, the stakes will be too high. But, you get what you give.

    Abangan !

  96. Chabeli - March 21, 2007 6:10 pm

    If I may add, Ms. Ellen, regarding the game of Blackmail.

    At the opportune time, maybe when Gloria has been thrown out of the Palace, we will find out the people who have been leaking out information to the public; the people who are supposedly close friends of Mike & Gloria Arroyo. Either indirectly or directly, they have been “bought”, but can one buy a conscience ? I think not.

  97. paquito - March 21, 2007 6:45 pm

    Sana magkaroon ulit ng pagkakataon ang mga Pilipino na mapalabas sa Malacanang ang maganak na nagdala ng Impyerno sa Pilipinas sa pangunguna ni GLORIA sawang-sawa na ang mga Pilipino

  98. Ellen - March 21, 2007 7:16 pm

    AKBAYAN statement:

    “What luxuries is Mrs. Arroyo talking about? ” AKBAYAN Representative Risa Hontiveros-Baraquel asked. “Our people are basically living on a diet of noodles and sardines yet, this callous government has the guts to say that they are spending irresponsibly. It is this squandering government and its extravagant senatorial line-up who should cut on their spending,” Hontiveros said.

    “While our people are trying to make ends meet, millions of pesos are being wasted everyday by Team Unity just to pay for commercial ads, posters and grandiloquent campaign sorties. They further insult the poor by flaunting their electoral R&R in the comforts of a plush resort,” Hontiveros said.

    For his part, UP economist and Alternative Nobel awardee Prof. Walden Bello, also an AKBAYAN nominee lambasted the Arroyo government’s “spending advice” to the people. “Mrs. Arroyo and her truth-challenged administration have no moral ascendancy whatsoever to advice us about thriftiness,” Bello said.

    “Let us remember that under this government, we witnessed the construction of the controversial 5.1-kilometer President Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard priced at P1.1 billion pesos which is allegedly overpriced by P700 million. Lest we forget, it tops the world record for public works’ cost of construction. Who is now spending recklessly?” Bello asked.

    Bello also underscored the lamp posts used in the recent ASEAN summit in Cebu which were allegedly overpriced. Lamp posts in Mandaue and Cebu cities actually cost P11,000 and P33,000 each, respectively. However, the official pegged cost for each lamppost was overpriced at P224,000 for each lamppost in Mandaue City, and P83,000 per lamppost in Cebu City.

    “The Arroyo government must stop beating a dead horse and admit for once that their economy is not working. A person doesn’t need to be an economist to see what is already obvious—more and more people are starving, unemployed and hopeless,” Bello further stressed.

    “Clearly, what is needed is an economy that will truly generate decent jobs, feed the people and bring back hope. We don’t need Mrs. Arroyo’s brand of economy which is only good in the statistical board nor her distasteful advice to spend wisely,” said Bello.

  99. ystakei - March 21, 2007 7:42 pm

    Anna:

    I’ve called the Tiyanak a lunatic even before she grabbed power. She would brag about being friends with the emperor and empress of Japan, who cannot even freely associate with anyone, not even with the empress’ commoner family, without going through the usual protocol, and would pester the people at the Philippine Embassy to make a special appointment with them whenever she comes here, and nobody is definitely happy about it.

    Tawag ko diyan, psycho kasi ang tindi ng tama sa ulo! Lumalabas na nga ang natural sa totoo lang. Dapat diyan ipinapasok na sa loob!

    Ilabas na nila si Karen at what’s the name of the other girl. Golly, hinubaran pa pala sila ng mga animal na hayok na sundalong kanin. Wala pang guerra iyan ha!!! Guerrang gawa-gawa ni Pandak para siguro lusubin na ng mga kano ang Pilipinas. Pasalamat nga lang sila at medyo nakahalata na rin ang mga kano na may malaking tupak din iyong pangulo nila kundi baka lumusob na iyan sa Mindanao dahil sa totoo lang ay kasama ang Pilipinas sa kaniyang Axis of Evil gawa nga ng sumbong ni Tiyanak na may cell ng Al Qaeda sa Pilipinas, tapos magmamayabang na inubos na niya sila kaya ngayon ito namang Bayan Muna, Anakpawis, Gabriela ang uubusin niya! Hibang na talaga!

    Puede ba PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA kasama na iyong haliparot na pasulpot-sulpot dito na gusto pang magpakamot kung saan!

  100. benign0 - March 21, 2007 7:43 pm

    The question nobody seems to bother to ask though is this:

    .
    Is it Gloria’s fault that Filipinos are poor?

    .
    If our first impulse is to answer “Yes” then we merely demonstrate the true reason why we are the pathetically impoverished society that we are.

    .
    - :D

  101. ystakei - March 21, 2007 7:47 pm

    O umimik na si FVR. Bumabalandra na rin komo mukhang tagilid na si Tiyanak sa mga Amerikano kahit na binastos niya ang batas ng Pilipinas para doon sa horny soldier na gumahasa ng isang pilipina. Dito niya gawin iyan, sibak siya agad. Laking hirit ng bar association dito kapag nagkataon sa pambabastos ng may mga kapangyarihan sa mismong basta na dapat nilang ipairal. Iyong nga Assperon, bakit nakakaarte nang ganoon ang ungas at walang humihirit na mambabatas! Pambihira!

  102. ystakei - March 21, 2007 8:00 pm

    Bob: Ibig sabihin ni Glueria , Luxuries na yong kumain ang mahihirap na tao nang (1) isang beses isang araw..kailangan every other day lang ang kain..get’s nyo….
    *****

    Anong gusto ni Tiyanak, palaging mag-fasting ang mga pilipino para sagutin na ng Diyos ang dasal nila na mapatalsik siya? Kung ganoon, OK! Kahit every other day ang kain tapos noon, fiesta!

  103. ystakei - March 21, 2007 8:03 pm

    Spartan:

    Iyong mag-asawang Pidal angel talaga! Fallen angels sila!!! Tuwang-tuwa si Satanas sa kanila sa totoo lang!

  104. nelbar - March 21, 2007 8:18 pm

    benign0:
    sayo na si madonna, kylie minogue at holly valance
    basta sa akin ang brown madonna

     

    ystakei:

    ang socio-economic agenda ni Gloria Pidal ay ang isa sa bawat miyembro ng pamilyang pilipino ay nakakapag-remitt ng dolyares para sa foreign reserves at mag-uwi ng balikbayan boxes para status symbol.

    sayang sina neri at tetangco kung produkto lamang sila ng mandaraya at makabagong engineering economics ng mga pidal.

  105. Ka Enchong - March 21, 2007 8:24 pm

    Ka Magno:

    “ka enchong, nais ko sanang mangapitbahay sa iyong tahanan, problema ko lang ayaw pumayag ng aming mga bantay (IT department). sayang!”

    Alam kong isa ka sa iilang may pagmamahal sa kalinangang Pilipino, lalo na sa panulaang Tagalog. Hindi mo man madalaw ang munti kong tahanan, pahintulutan sana ako ng may-ari ng pitak na ito na ibahagi sa iyo ang isang antigong pirasong naaakma sa kalagayan ng mga dukha nating kababayan. Narito ang isang paglalarawan sa kalagayan ng isang magpapapag, maibigan mo sana:

    Ang Magpapapag

    Kapirasong tabla’t ‘sang dakot na pako,
    Isang tabong pawis, ‘sang araw ng hapo,
    Sa sipag, sa t’yaga, kapag inihalo,
    Tulugang papag ang aking nabuo.

    Daang kilometro, libulibong hakbang,
    Sa bukid, sa parang, hanggang kabihasnan;
    Ang pasan kong papag, kalakal sa buhay,
    Napalitan naman ng bigas at gulay.

    At nang binalik ko ang dampa kong bahay,
    Ang bigas, sinaing, ginisa ang gulay.
    Sa lunok binusog, sa lagok nilunod
    Ang hain ng mundong gutom at pagod.

    Naglayag ang buwan sa gitna ng langit,
    Diwa’y naglayag din sa laot ng isip;
    Kalakal na papag, nang ilakong pilit,
    Ano’t ako ngayon, sa banig iidlip?

    Ang likhang kalakal- bukal ng pangarap,
    Pahinga ang dulot sa sapat magbayad.
    Ako namang sa papag lumikha’t naglako,
    Sa pahinga, kulang; sa pangarap, bigo!

  106. Ka Enchong - March 21, 2007 8:57 pm

    “The question nobody seems to bother to ask though is this:

    .
    Is it Gloria’s fault that Filipinos are poor?

    .
    If our first impulse is to answer “Yes” then we merely demonstrate the true reason why we are the pathetically impoverished society that we are.”

    Nobody asked because the answer would have been very obvious. Filipinos were already poor even before Aling Gloria ran for the senate. Had she just kept the level of poverty the same as when she found it, maybe, the people won’t be as mad as they are now. What’s worse, the numbers speak of worsening levels of poverty against the backdrop of Aling Gloria’s claims of the Philippines being an “economic miracle”, and her calls for the poor to “shun luxuries”. What’s even worse, the magnitude and breadth of graft and corruption (up to now, Bolante is still in America) can reasonably be traced back to her doorsteps- all these just to keep herself entrenched?

  107. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 9:03 pm

    ka enchong, ang aking sagot:

    ano ba naman kayo? sobra naman kayong pikon
    ang sabi ko’y huwag magluho hindi ang kayo’y magpagutom
    ano ba ang masama kung imungkahi ko ang gayon
    ‘yun nama’y para sa inyo rin, kabutihan ang aking layon.

    kung magtipid man kayo, kayo rin ang magkakamit
    nitong ginhawang inaasam, kapalit ng inyong pagtitiis
    huwag ninyo sanang ipagtampo, huwag n’yo namang ikagalit
    bilang inyong matapat na pangulo, kaginhawahan ang akjng nais.

    araw gabi’y aking ritwal, pag-aralan ang bawat hakbang
    upang itong kasaganaa’y makamtan natin nang lubusan
    walang sinumang naghihirap masagana ang bawat dulang
    may ngiti sa bawat labing tanda ng tunay na kasiyahan.

    milyong bilang na ng trabaho sa pamumuno ko ay nalikha
    mga dayuhang mamumuhuna’y isa isa nang dumadagsa
    kaya’t aking maipagmamalaki’t maisisigaw nang buong tuwa
    gumagandang ekonomiya nati’y hinding hindi na mawawala!

  108. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 9:07 pm

    nelbar,

    ‘yun bang bakrayder na ‘yun ang ebobot at tsikas na pinagsasaluhan ng romantikong pahinante at switlaber na drayber? he he heh!

    kaya pala laging subsob ang tapalodo ng dyip kapag nakagarahe, plat tayr!

  109. Tilamsik - March 21, 2007 9:12 pm

    Is it Gloria’s fault that Filipinos are poor?
    *********

    Bago umupo si Gloria marami ng poor, dapat lang na ang prioity ni Atel Glo ay anti-poverty. Ang problema imbes na ibigay sa mga poor ang “fertilizer fund” para may pantawid gutom, kinurakot pa. Di ko masisi kung may sagot na “yes”.

  110. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 9:14 pm

    ka enchong,

    totoong kahit noon ay laganap na ang kahirapan, subalit hindi rin maitatatwang nang dahil sa pagmamalabis at pagkukulang ng nagdaan at kasalukuyang pamahalaan kaya ang paghihikahos ay hindi nababawasan.

    sino ba namang tao ang hindi gustong makaahon sa kahirapan? oportunidad ang kailangan. ang ayuda ng mas merong kakayahan. subalit hindi. sa kaunting tulong na ibibigay, kailangan pa ang abot langit na dasal, hindi pa nga mapiagkaloob kung minsan kahit kapalit na ng buong pagkatao’t karangalan.

  111. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 9:15 pm

    ……..nang dahil sa pagmamalabis at pagkukulang ng nagdaan at kasalukuyang pamahalaan……

  112. ystakei - March 21, 2007 9:18 pm

    Hindi man si Gloria ang pangunahing dahilan kung bakit mahirap ang mga pilipino, sinabi naman niyang payayamanin niya ang mga pilipino sa pamamagitan ng pagbubugaw sa kanila sa ibang bansa. Mahigit nang anim na itong sinasabi niyang yayaman ang mga pilipino, pero yumaman ba? At saka iyong mga sinasabi niyang yayaman, kayod kabayo sa ibang bansa, meron pang nagagaghasa, pero yumaman ba?

    Sabi mismo ng mga tinatawag na “commie,” mas mabuti pa raw noong panahon ni Marcos dahil kahit papaano ang mga doctor hindi na bumabalik sa paaralan para mag-aral maging nurse na parang demotion di tulad ngayon na magtitiyaga pa ngang maging caregiver para makaalis na sa kahirapan sa Pilipinas.

    So, bakit hindi dapat sisihin si Mrs. Pidal a.k.a. Gloria Dorobo? Simpleng tanong, asan ang sagot?

  113. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 9:21 pm

    tinatama na nga, nagkamali pa rin:

    ……..nang dahil sa pagmamalabis at pagkukulang ng mga nagdaan at kasalukuyang pamahalaan……

  114. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 9:23 pm

    nakupunaman!

    ……..hindi pa nga maipagkaloob kung minsan kahit kapalit na ng buong pagkatao’t karangalan.

  115. chi - March 21, 2007 9:29 pm

    EDITORIAL/Abante
    Ang totoo kung bakit nagugutom
    ….
    Syempre, ang ugat talaga nito ay aspetong pang-ekonomiya. Simplehan na lang natin ang pag-intindi sa problemang ito. Kaya nagugutom ay dahil walang makain. May mga pagkakataong kaya walang makain ay kulang ang supply o mga produkto pero ang kadalasang problema talaga ng gutom ay walang pambili ng pagkain.

    Sa puntong ito, puwedeng walang pera at puwede ring may pera pero sobrang mahal ng pagkain kaya hindi pa rin makabili kaya nagugutom ang mga hikahos na pamilya.

    Ang mahal na pagkain at kawalan ng pera o sapat na pera, kanino ba ito dapat isisi? Kung tamad ang isang tao kaya wala itong kayod at walang pera, iyong may katawan ang may problema. Pero iyong hanap ka ng hanap ng trabaho at kahit ano ang pinapasok mo para lang kumita, ngunit wala pa ring mapasukan, aba’y sabit d’yan ang pamahalaan. Ibig sabihin lang, mataas ang unemployment rate sa bansa.

    http://www.abante.com.ph/issue/mar2107/main.htm

  116. Ka Enchong - March 21, 2007 9:31 pm

    Ka Magno:

    Mapagpatawad ako kaya kung hindi man bawasan ang paghihirap, tampo lang ang sa akin. Ang nakagagalit, dinagdagan pa ang paghihirap sa kabila ng pagkakaroon ng salaping magagamit.

    Kung ang ginugol sa pangangampanya noong 2004 at ngayong 2007 (na alam naman nating lahat, ay mula sa kaban ng bayan) ay inilaan sa pagpapaunlad ng kabuhayan at paglikha ng hanapbuhay (sang-ayon ako kay Anthony dito) sa halip na sa pagkapit sa tangkay ng kapangyarihan, napakitid sana kahit paano ang kahungkagan sa pagitan ng mahirap at mayaman.

    Ngayon, tila ang sambayanang naghihirap LAMANG ang kanyang pinagbubuntunan ng sisi? Ngayon, tinutuklaw niya ang mga kamay inagkukunan niya ng kanyang pagpapala?

  117. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 9:40 pm

    “pagpapaunlad ng kabuhayan at paglikha ng hanapbuhay (sang-ayon ako kay Anthony dito)”

    ka enchong, ang sinasabi ni anthony na paglikha ng hanapbuhay ay ‘yung imbes na pagtatalak ng mga bloggers dito, hindi ‘yung pagkukulang ng gobyerno na hindi naman ipinagpipilitan ng mga narito kundi ‘yun ngang pagwawalangbahala ng nasa poder. ang panlilinlang sa taong bayang pinaaasa sa mga dinoktor na datos at kung ano ano pang paglilihis sa atensiyon ng mamamayan lalong lalo na ang pagsikil at pagsakal sa mga bumabatikos na ang hangad lang naman ay katotohanan at matapat na paglilingkod.

  118. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 9:44 pm

    ang isa pang ipinagpipilitan ni anthony na gusto raw ng mga bumabatikos kay gloria ay ‘yung ibalik si erap sa malakanyang gayung wala ni isa na nagsasabing siya (erap) ang ipapalit sakaling bumaba o mapaalis sa puwesto ang kanyang sinasabing mas gusto niya kahit nandaya.

  119. Mrivera - March 21, 2007 9:53 pm

    ka enchong,

    humahanga ako sa iyong matalinghagang paglikha ng tula na hindi ko na magawa sapagkat umiiral sa aking kamalayan ang kasalukuyang balagtasan ng buhay. marami na rin kasi ang hindi na makaunawa ng talinghaga sa kalinangang pilipino, kaya ang aking mga tula ay hinahabi ko sa “buhay na paglilitanya”.

    hindi man ako makabisita sa iyong tahanan, aariin kong isang malaking karangalan na ang isang katulad mo ay nakaututang dila (o panulat) ko dito sa palasyo ni ellen.

    mabuhay ka, lakandiwang magdalo (kabitenyo)!

  120. paquito - March 21, 2007 9:58 pm

    Tandaan nyo at wag tayo makakalimot yong mga binitawan nyang MGA PANGAKO (daw!!!)noong ninakaw nya ang kapangyarihan kay Erap (kasi acting President sya nanumpa kasama si Davide)at noong kumandidato sya sa pagka-Presidente (na dinaya nya sina FPJ,Lacson,Villanueva,Rocco). Lahat ng bansa sa mundo ay nakakaranas ng paghihirap pero sa Pilipinas ay talamak sa ilalim ng Fake President na si Gloria kaya kasalanan lahat ni Gloria yan. Bakit? Wag natin kalilimutan ang lahat ng pangyayari simula ng syay pumasok sa Malakanyang—-Paano aahon sa kahirapan ang bansa ang inuna nya ay pagtuligsa sa mga kalaban nya sa politika, papaano aahon s khirapan ang bansa ang inuna nya ay mamigay ng pera or manuhol doon sa mga inaakala nyang kalaban nya sa puluitika(pera ng bayan yan), paano aahon sa kahirapan ang bansa kung ang namumuno na tulad ni Gloria ay walang kredibilidad, sinungaling at kung anu-ano pa. Bukod pa roon ang mararangyang project ni Gloria tulad ng Diosdado ——- Avenue….nakakasuka kasing bigkasin ang family name. Ilan lang yan mga igan, hindi pa kasama dyan ang Garci. Sino ngayon ang dapat bigyan ng warrant of arrest?—–si Gloria. Kayong mga nasa katungkulan, maglingkod naman kayo sa bayan, heto kampanya na naman ang babait nyo parang mga maaamong tupa pagkatapos sasabihin nyo lang sa taong bayan NOTED!!!Nakakatawa. Akala ni Mr. Noted gusto gusto na sya ng tao porke nasa top 12 sya, nagkakamali ka Mr. Noted at di na dapat pang magpaliwanag si Mrs. Noted kasi matalino na mga tao. Wag gawin sukatan ni Mr. Noted ang survey, ilan lang yan sa milyon milyon na boboto, nadadala ka lang ni Mrs. Noted, ayaw namin sa yo Mr. Noted amini mo isa ka sa naging kasangkapan ni Gloria sa pandaraya indirectly.

  121. anna de brux - March 21, 2007 10:29 pm

    Teka, teka “Wag gawin sukatan ni Mr. Noted ang survey, ilan lang yan sa milyon milyon na boboto, nadadala ka lang ni Mrs. Noted, ayaw namin sa yo Mr. Noted amini mo isa ka sa naging kasangkapan ni Gloria sa pandaraya indirectly.”

    Ang Mrs Noted na sinasabi mo ay si Sharon Cuneta na asawa ni Gaby Concepcion? Paano naging Mrs Noted yan? Puwede ba ang dalawang asawang kasal sa Pinas? Akalo ko ba walang DIVORCE sa Pinas?

  122. anna de brux - March 21, 2007 10:37 pm

    By the way, this may be off topic but it’s relevant (from UK’s The Times):

    ****************
    Activists campaigning against Robert Mugabe’s regime were today arrested after staging a sit-in protest at the Zimbabwean embassy in London, hours after the United States ambassador to the dilapidated nation said that opposition to the authoritarian leader had reached a tipping point.

    Christopher Dell, Washington’s envoy in Zimbabwe, said that resistance had reached a peak because people were no longer fearful of the regime and felt they had nothing left to lose.

    ****************
    Hmmmm, When a US envoy to a third world country starts TO SNEEZE just like Ambassador Dell in Zimbabwe, Gloria Pidal’s twin in Africa, meaning Robert Mugabe, will be gone pretty, pretty soon.

    Wonder when Ambassador Kenney will catch cold at the sight of Gloria bansot?

  123. chi - March 21, 2007 11:22 pm

    I’m not convinced with the SWS survey, as if Mr Noted Cuneta commissioned it. E bakit palagi siyang number one, while the other surveys e si Legarda ang consistent on top. I remember that SWS lost credibility with their surveys conducted re 2004 elections. Anyways, survey is just survey, a big source of income for SWS!

  124. sleeplessinmontreal - March 21, 2007 11:26 pm

    Ma’m Anna

    Wala pa pong divorce sa Pilipinas, pero mayroong legal separation. Ganyan ang sistema kaya yong may pera, nagagawa nilang magpa-annul ng marriage. Matagal ding hinintay ni Sharon ang kaso niya at habang separated siya kay Gabby Concepcion, nagkaroon siya ng romantic liaison with Richard Gomez. Ala-Hollywood din ang lovelife stories ng movie personalities sa Pilipinas.

    Ayon sa movies tsismis noon, si Grace Ibuna ang dahilan ng paghihiwalay ni Sharon at Gabby pero ibang babae ang pinakasalan ni Gabby who is now US-based.

  125. chi - March 21, 2007 11:27 pm

    The tianak glue promised (again) that she’d strengthen the agriculture sector and rolling stores to solve the problem of talamak na gutom sa Pinas! Oh boy! Para meron na naman siyang makurakot sa fertilizer fund, hehehh! Sa rolling stores, kaya pagan-an, gan-an lang ang buhay ng pinoy, kapapaikot ni tianak sa kanila!

  126. ystakei - March 21, 2007 11:58 pm

    Neknek niya. Kita mo nga ang mga peasants na pinapapatay nila sa Bohol, Leyte and Tarlac.

    Gustung-gusto nilang ipadala si Ocampo sa Leyte kasi doon madali silang pumapatay ng mga ayaw nila. A lot many of the extrajudicial killings in fact have happened in Leyte. And thus, the curse on the land of Imeldific!!!

  127. ystakei - March 22, 2007 12:07 am

    Itong si Madame Bobary, ang hilig mangako pero pirming napapako. May naniniwala pa ba diyan? Por diyes, por singko naman, please tama na ang tiis. Tiyaga na lang sana ang mga pilipinong ipukpok na patalsikin iyan. Maawa naman kayo sa inyong mga sariling naiwan sa bansa. Kung sa bagay, tignan mo nga ang ginagawa doon sa mga nagra-rally sa Pilipinas. Putok ang mga ulo, etc. At least, dito sa Japan, mag-demonstrate kami, walang nasasaktan. Enjoy pa kami at well protected ng mga pulis sa mga provocator. Golly, sa Pilipinas, ang yabang noong pulis na parang hoodlum na hinahamon ang rallyist na makipagbakbakan sa kanilang may mga bomba pang dala. Asta manduduro pa! Pwe! Kakahiya!

    I showed the picture to my friends in the police the video clip that I put in my digital camera’s disc of a free for all riot that was started by the police. Napanganga sila. Ang tanong nila kung may ginagawa daw ang bar association sa Manila para bawalan ang ganoon police brutality kasi dito hindi uubra ang mga loko ng mga pulis. Forget about discipline. It is more about following the rule of law sa totoo lang!!!

  128. cocoy - March 22, 2007 12:10 am

    Chi:
    Pati ba naman iyong maliliit na negosyante ay kukumpetensyahin pa niya ng kanyang rolling store.Ano ba ang tinda nila sa rolling store kundi inaamag ng packet noodles at bigas galing ng vietnam.Bakit hindi na lang niya irasyon ng libre iyan doon sa mga walang makain.Alam ni kapitan kung sino ang kumakalam ang sikmura sa kanyang barangay,ibigay na lang nila doon at makakatulong pa siya.Gusto mo bilhin na natin lahat ng laman ng rolling store na iyan at ipamahagi na lang natin doon sa walang pambili.

  129. chi - March 22, 2007 1:09 am

    cocoy,

    Walang patawad talaga iyang si Tianak! I know that in Zambales, ipinamimigay lang ninyo sa mga residente ang laman ng rolling stores ni glue! Dapat ay matuto sa ugali ng Zambalenos itong si Tianak!

  130. BOB - March 22, 2007 2:18 am

    Hoy…Gluria ! Pinatatanggal mo pa sa amin ang paninigarilyo at pag-inom nang alak..eh hindi na nga kumakain at naninigarilyo na lang kami..,kasi mas mura ang isang stick nang sigarilyo kaysa pagkain…Ang alak naman , kaya nga naglalasing para makalimutan naming wala kaming makain..Hayop ka !

  131. cocoy - March 22, 2007 3:29 am

    Sa Zambales hindi pinapansin iyang rolling store ni punggok.Barko,barko ang dumarating na balikbayan boxes doon buwan buwan at pati na rin ang kapitbahay ay mayroon.Itong mga door to door company dito ay nagrereklamo na sa amin dahil mabibigat ang kahon.Kaya’t pag tumawag sa kanila at Zambales ang punta hindi nila pipik-apin agad dahil alam na nila ang laman,hindi naman sa bigat ang bayaran kundi por kahon.

  132. nelbar - March 22, 2007 9:32 am

    ystakei,

    nabanggit mo ang Leyte?
    mukhang magkakaroon ng mall war duon sa Tacloban dahil sa tunggalian ng Romualdez(for Robinsons mall) at Petilla(SM mall)?

  133. anthony scalia - March 22, 2007 10:19 am

    To Ka Enchong:

    sabi ni mrivera:

    “ka enchong, ang sinasabi ni anthony na paglikha ng hanapbuhay ay ‘yung imbes na pagtatalak ng mga bloggers dito, hindi ‘yung pagkukulang ng gobyerno na hindi naman ipinagpipilitan ng mga narito kundi ‘yun ngang pagwawalangbahala ng nasa poder. ang panlilinlang sa taong bayang pinaaasa sa mga dinoktor na datos at kung ano ano pang paglilihis sa atensiyon ng mamamayan lalong lalo na ang pagsikil at pagsakal sa mga bumabatikos na ang hangad lang naman ay katotohanan at matapat na paglilingkod”

    Yan ang hirap sa ganyang pananaw – hanggang anti-GMA lang. pero kung merong paninindigan beyond anti-GMA at ANTI-POVERTY pa, yan ang maganda.

    Di nakakalikha ng trabaho ang pag-stress sa kakulangan ng gobyerno.

    I salute you, Ka Enchong, kasi meron kang paninindigan beyond being anti-GMA. IYAN ANG KAILANGAN NGAYON NG BAYAN. KOKONTI LANG ANG MGA TULAD MO DITO SA BLOG

    Di ba sumang-ayon ka na, na ang pagtatatalak (by itself) ay di nakakalikha ng trabaho? kung hihintayin pa masipa si GMA, kung hihintayin pang magkaroon ng mahusay na pangulo bago umpisahing labanan ang poverty, ay talagang walang mangyayari sa ‘Pinas.

    Sa blog na ito, kakaunti pa lang kasi ang tulad mo, na anti-GMA na, anti-poverty pa. Naunawaan mo na nasa kamay ng bawat Pinoy ang responsibilidad na mawala ang poverty dito, at di na kailangang HINTAYIN NA MASIPA MUNA SI GMA bago ma-empower ang mga kababayan nating dukha sa pamamagitan ng education, job creation, at housing assistance, gaya ng Gawad kalinga.

    I salute you, Ka Enchong, dahil alam mong ang lahat ng naging presidente ng ‘Pinas, ay ‘subok ng subok pero krisis pa rin ang ekonomiya.’

    Alam mo rin na kapag di kikilos ang private sector na labanan ang poverty, sino pa ang kikilos? Kung hindi ngayon kikilos ang private sector para labanan ang poverty, kailan pa?

    I salute you, Ka Enchong, dahil na-realize mo rin na ang economic well-being ng isang tao ay isang individual responsibility.

    Nakakalimutan ng lahat ng bloggers dito na they are where they are now because of self-reliance, AND NOT BECAUSE OF A GOVERNMENT DOLE-OUT. (unless they are reneging scholars of the government, like some UP faculty who were financed by UP to go abroad for doctoral studies, after obtaining a PhD had the gall not to return to UP).

    Alam kong maraming di sasang-ayon dito sa sasabihin ko – ano ba ang mas importante, (1) ang kaagad matulungan ang mahihirap para di na ito magutom at para ma-empower, o (2) ang hintayin pa sa gobyerno ang pagtulong sa mahihirap.

    Ang number (1) ay kaya nang gawin ng private sector, tulad ng Gawad Kalinga. Ilang presidente na ang nagdaan, at di pa rin magawa ang number (2).

    Kaya Ka Enchong, ok lang na ipagpatuloy mo ang batikos. Kasi alam kong higit pa doon ang iyong ginagawa. Ang desire mo lang ay para sa bayan, at hindi para ibalik si Erap sa Malacanang.

    To all bloggers here: Say all you want against Gawad Kalinga – meron ba kayong alternative? for the meantime while waiting for na masipa si GMA, meron na ba kayong nabigyan ng bahay at hanapbuhay sa community. Take note, mas lamang ang Gawad Kalinga sa Habitat for Humanity, dahil ang Habitat hanggang housing lamang. While ang Gawad Kalinga holistic ang approach, may livelihood din yun gmga community na natutulungan nila.

  134. anthony scalia - March 22, 2007 10:36 am

    To benign0:

    “The question nobody seems to bother to ask though is this:

    Is it Gloria’s fault that Filipinos are poor?

    If our first impulse is to answer “Yes” then we merely demonstrate the true reason why we are the pathetically impoverished society that we are.”

    Very true.

    Some will surely call this a dumb question, but i’ll ask it just the same –

    What can a president do to eradicate poverty?

    By the answers we can determine what goes on the minds of those who answered.

    Anyone? ONE URGENT PLEA – PLEASE GIVE SPECIFICS, NOT MOTHERHOOD STATEMENTS NOR PONTIFICATIONS. NOT THE USUAL SPIELS OF CAUSE-ORIENTED GROUPS. SPECIFICS. PLEASE.

  135. cocoy - March 22, 2007 12:43 pm

    Antonio:
    Don’t you know that our country is rich in natural resources, our land are fertile and our ocean has a bountiful of edible species, however our country is still remain poor because we have a crisis in governance, as well as the lack of accountability and transparency in the role of government, and the general political instability, have contributed to the failure of measures aimed at combating poverty. Good governance is critical for the process of development, structural change and eradication of poverty, Good governance should be made an integral part of antipoverty measures, rather than a condition for international support for such measures.
    These that our present government under the leadership of Arroyo is lacking.

  136. nelbar - March 22, 2007 1:34 pm

    cocoy:

    ang sabi ni anthony hindi siya naniniwala sa demokrasya o rule of the majority.
    nasa kamay daw ng private sector ang ikapagtataguyod ng bansa at hindi sa nakararaming mga pilipino.
    ibig sabihin kahit may katiwalian sa gobyerno, kahit hindi si GMA ang naka-upo basta ibalandra mo lang sa ano mang ahensya ng gobyerno ang GK – tapos na ang usapan.

    gustong pumasakalye ni anthony kung papaano makokopya ang istratehiya ng marketing gimmick ng Microsoft. Mahusay kasi at talagang epektib.

     

    anthony scalia:

    napanood mo ba sa TV ang mga tanong ni Ka Tunying sa kinauukulan tungkol sa unemployment at underemployment rate?
    kung hindi PLEASE TUMAHIMIK ka na lang sa KAKATALAK mo dito?

  137. cocoy - March 22, 2007 2:54 pm

    Nelbar;
    Antonio wants to know what is the cause of poverty in our country.I will not only give him the cause, but,the main roots of the problem,I wish he could come back with his professor Benigno so that we can discuss the lesson for today.

  138. nelbar - March 22, 2007 3:14 pm

    private sector at gawad kalinga pala ang constituent ni anthony scalia.
    hindi nakakapagtaka kung bakit nakakaawa ang bansang Pilipins dahil nasa kamay pala ng private sector at gawad kalinga ang ikatatagumpay ng bansa.
    kay anthony scalia ko lang narinig dito sa blog ni ellen na hindi na kailangan pang pakinggan ang boses ng nakararami.

    kung ganon ang kalakaran? bakit kailangan pang mag-eleksyon?

    eh hindi naman pala pinakikinggan ang boses ng nakararami?

    at isapa, kaya lang naman nagkakaroon ng eleksyon dito sa pilipins eh dahil para malaman ng naghaharing uri kung ano ba dapat ipakahulugan ng demokrasya?

    pakitang tao lang na may demokrasya kuno sa pilipins para masabi kuno na ang mga founding fathers natin ay galing sa bansang amerika!

  139. anthony scalia - March 22, 2007 3:16 pm

    To nelbar:

    “napanood mo ba sa TV ang mga tanong ni Ka Tunying sa kinauukulan tungkol sa unemployment at underemployment rate?”

    hindi

    “kung hindi PLEASE TUMAHIMIK ka na lang sa KAKATALAK mo dito?”

    anong pakialam mo?

    ikaw ba ang may-ari nitong blog na ito?

    akala mo ikaw hindi nagtatatalak?

    kita mo, di maganda ang dating ng nagtatatalak, eh iyan ang gawain nyo dito 99.9% of the time!

    oops, ay sorry, you said “please” pala. sorry.

    Tatahimik lang ako kung tatahimik ka rin. Kaso mukhang imposible ata mangyari yan. parang na ring sinabing tatahimik si ystakei.

  140. anthony scalia - March 22, 2007 3:38 pm

    To cocoy:

    My sincere thanks for deciding to start a discussion on this. I hope you can convince your friends to join this CIVIL,INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION.

    “Good governance” is rather vague, can you be more specific?

    How is “good governance” related to the country’s natural resources, fertile lands, and edible species found in Philippne waters?

    How sure are you that the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources have no mechanisms in properly and responsibly exploiting the country’s natural resources?

    How can “good governance” eradicate poverty?

    How can transparency and accountability result in job creation?

    “Good governance” is only management. It is maintenance. Its only about preserving wealth. Its not proactive. It is not about creating wealth. Its not about nurturing an environment that helps create wealth.

    What our country needs is the creation of a huge pie of wealth and its equitable distribution.

    Did you know that South Korea became an economic miracle and economic wonder despite having a corrupt military dictatorship?

    And that Japan’s economic success, particularly its technological success, is not due to its powerful government agency MITI, but due to the collective efforts of its private citizens?

    Did you know that, according to Washington SyCip, corruption in Malaysia was institutionalized under Mahathir? Yet how come Malaysia is regarded as an economic tiger?

    Im really curious about your thoughts on the roots of poverty here.

  141. anthony scalia - March 22, 2007 3:46 pm

    To nelbar:

    “ang sabi ni anthony hindi siya naniniwala sa demokrasya o rule of the majority”

    oops, di ko sinabi yn. ang hilig mo talagang mag-atribute ng hindi tutoo.

    “nasa kamay daw ng private sector ang ikapagtataguyod ng bansa at hindi sa nakararaming mga pilipino”

    cge nga, lets have a civil discussion. lets take off from your view na nasa kamay ng nakararaming pilipino ang ikapagtataguyod ng bansa –

    paano makakatulong ang nakararaming pilipino para maging economic tiger ang ‘Pinas? with the result na very very low ang poverty incidence dito?

    paki-usap. lets just focus on the foregoing question.

    come on. i think highly of you, that you are also capable of an intelligent discussion like Ka Enchong and Cocoy.

  142. cocoy - March 22, 2007 3:55 pm

    Antonio:
    As I mentioned above we have a crisis in governance, we must first find a solution for that reason before we can eradicate poverty.
    The political and economic agenda of Arroyo is failing and her government is incapable of ruling itself. The people are bewildered and disappointed by her ruling, they have a little or no confidence at her. She doesn’t has a mandate because her presidency is in doubt if it’s a legitimate or rigged. Our economy goes with her political instability. Instead of her concentrating and focus on the economy her main priority is the military, because she need a first hand security.
    We don’t need a military if we have a strong economy and economic stability.
    I will give you some more explanation if you are ready to discuss with me.

  143. cocoy - March 22, 2007 4:16 pm

    Antonio;
    Natural resources transform wealth,that’s a raw materials that make a finish products and generate cash.You can’t mold a steel without chrome.In Masinloc Zambales,they have a chromite mining,If you remember Coto mining.That operation started since the beginning of WWII.A volume of million of metric tons is imported mostly in Japan,and the finished product of that become Toyota,Suzuki,Honda and Subaru.Now,my question to you,where does that money go and what happened?That’s only a few example of out natural resources.

  144. cocoy - March 22, 2007 4:27 pm

    Antonio:
    You want to know the roots of poverty.Open your eyes.Our farmers did not have a bountiful harvest on their crops because Bolante ran away with the money that supposed to help them in buying fertilizer and insecticides.If that money is properly implemented and disbursed,we can have an abundant harvest and we will not be importing a thousand of metric tons of rice from Vietnam and China,our people will not starve.

  145. benign0 - March 22, 2007 4:46 pm

    If that money is properly implemented and disbursed,we can have an abundant harvest and we will not be importing a thousand of metric tons of rice from Vietnam and China,our people will not starve

    .
    But why are there starving Pinoys in the first place?

    Could it be we focused too much on multiplying like rabbits without thinking of tomorrow?

    Yung mga OFW diyan. Sana inisip niyo muna ang kinabukasan bago kayo nag-anak nang nag-anak. Anak kayo nang anak, tapos iiwan niyo lang pala para mag-trabaho abroad.

    The reason people are starving is not because “Bolante ran away with the money that supposed to help them in buying fertilizer and insecticides”. The reason people are starving is because we lacked foresight.

    We depleted our forests, polluted our rivers, and multiplied like crazy, AND THEN became addicted to OFW-$-funded celphones, designer clothes, and karaoke machines.

    It’s about time we took personal accountability for the pathetic state of our country and quit blaming politicians. No matter how many insults and hollow-headed taunts we throw at today’s politicians, THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE. They were the same in the past, they are the same today, and they WILL be the same in the future.

    The only thing that will be different tomorrow is the number of poor Pinoys.

    There will be more of them.

    - :D

  146. cocoy - March 22, 2007 4:47 pm

    Antonio;
    Please give me some of your reasoning and not only asking me a lot of question.If you don’t agree with me give me some of your argument.
    It is 1:47 am here and I am leaving my cubicle and hit the bed.Keep on presenting your opinion and I will counter it tomorrow.

  147. nelbar - March 22, 2007 4:55 pm

    anthony scalia:

    sigurado ako sa kakapasakalye mo dito ay nakakarami ka na ng maskara.

    dapat sayo ay sumali sa maskara festival!

    huwag mo nang isali sa usapan ang tiger economy.
    ang tiger economy ay eksklusibo lamang yan sa mga Asyanong bansa, pero ang pilipins ay nalilinya sa mga latin american economy na gaya ng ipinapakita ng mga kauri mo.

    isa ito sa mga dillema ng bansang ‘pilipins ass’, na hindi malaman kung saan talaga sila? Estado ng Amerika , kasapi sa latin american community o Asean? take note: magkaiba ang Asian sa ASEAN.

    Pero sa palagay ko, dahil nga sa pagkiling ng Pilipinas sa maka-kanlurang ekonomiya(na sinusuportahan naman ng Hapon), mas tailored ito na mapabilang sa ANZUS economy(dahil magaling daw mag-Ingles) – ibig sabihin para pa rin nakasandal sa pader.

    Pero mas prefer ko may sariling paninindigan. Na tulad ng sa India, Thailand at Vietnam ng may sari-sariling industriya.
    Sa India, tao pa lang nila ay industriya na.
    Sa Thailand ang kanilang tourism.
    At sa Vietnam naman ay ang agrilcutural industry nila, pero kung tutuusin ay sa atin lang naman natuto ito kung papaano ang paggamit ng kalabaw sa pag-aararo ng mga sakahan.(Hello Taiwan!)

    pero alam mo anthony scalia, panahon naman na tayo ang matuto sa mga bansang binanggit ko. Hindi lang yung panay na lang tayo gaya ng gaya na tulad ng ginagawa mo dito sa blog ni ellen.

    Isa sa magandang halimbawa ay itong Tata Group at Infosys sa India.

    Siguro naman hindi na kaila sa mga taga Amerika na ang karamihan ng mga Engineers sa Silicon Valley ay mga Indian nationals.

     
    Nabanggit ni cocoy ang mga sumusunod: Toyota, Suzuki, Honda at Subaru. Talagang ang mga amerikano ay team up sa mga Hapon.

    Banggitin ko na dito ang Proton ng Malaysia at ang isa sa matinde ng Indonesia na Indonesian Aerospace(PT Dirgantara Indonesia). Ayan ang pambato ng mga lahing Malaya!

    Pero sa totoo lang eh, mahilig ako sa 501.

  148. nelbar - March 22, 2007 4:59 pm

    benign0:

    gusto ko sanang ibida sayo dito ang kasaysayan ng Sarao Motor para ma-inform ko si cocoy, pero dahil sa ayaw kong malihis ang isyu dito sa pinag-uusapan sa folder na ito. Huwag na muna ngayon.

    stik2isyus muna!

  149. Mrivera - March 22, 2007 5:09 pm

    gloria macapagal arroyo, mandaraya, sinungaling at walang damdaming nagpapanggap na pangulo, wala kang karapatang sabihin kung ano ang dapat gawin at bilhin sa karampot naming kinikita dahil ito ay pinagpatuluan namin ng pawis at wala kang naiambag kahit isang kusing. wala kang ginawa at ginagawa upang ang kalagayan naming mga maralita ay maiangat kundi pawang panloloko, panlilinlang at paglilihis ng aming atensiyon at paniniwala sa tunay na kalagayan ng iyong huwad na pamahalaan. ang pondong para sa mga pagawaing bayan ay ginagastos mo hindi kung saan ito nakalaan kundi kung ano ang iyong kagustuhan at kung saan kayo masisiyahan.
    anim na taong singkad. ganyan na kalawig ang pagtatampisaw mo sa inagaw at ipinandayang kapangyarihan. lahat ng bagay ay ipinangako mo, lahat ng kasinungalingan ay nagawa mo na at patuloy pang sinasabi’t ginagawa, hindi ka pa ba nagsasawa? hindi ka na ba nakukutya sa iyong sarili, gayundin ang iyong mga alagad na animo’y mga lintang naglisaw sa iyong paligid at tila alingawngaw ng iyong mga sinasabi? mga tagapagtaguyod na gaya mo ay nalasing na rin sa tamis ng pang-aabuso sa kapangyarihan? mga tagapagsanggalang mong wala na ring prinsipyo at halang ang mga kaluluwang katulad mo ay walang paninindigan?
    nasubukan na ba ninyo ang magsalo sa iisang tuyo ang ulam at halagang pisong suka’t bawang ang sawsawan? kailan ang pagkakataon na ikaw/kayo ay humarap sa mamamayan nang payak ang bihis at kaanyuan?
    bago mo kami turuan, humarap ka muna sa salamin, kayong mag-anak, ang iyong mga alipores at itanong sa inyong sarili kung anong buti para sa sambayanan ang idinulot at idudulot pa ng patuloy ninyong pananatili sa inyong kinalalagyan.
    masdan ninyo ang inyong anyo at pakasuriin kung larawan kayo ng mabuting huwaran at karapatdapat tawaging LINGKOD NG BAYAN!
    at bago ko makalimutan, hindi ikaw ang TUNAY naming inihalal at pinagkatiwalaan upang umugit sa pamahalaan. napaluklok ka lamang at nananatili sa matibay at kapit tukong pagyakap sa kapangyarihan dahil sa iyong mga kaalyadong BAYARAN! KAYO ang SALOT na kumikitil sa ga-hiblang pag-asa ng naghihingalong sambayanan upang patuloy na mabuhay.

  150. Mrivera - March 22, 2007 5:25 pm

    anthony scalia,

    kailan ko ba ipinagpilitan o sinabi na ibalik si erap sa malakanyang? sige nga, i-cut ang paste mo kung saan at aling post ko mababasa ang ganu’n?

    binabatikos ko si gloria at kanyang mga tagapagtanggol sa kanilang katiwalian pero kailanman ay hindi ko sinabing si erap ang kailangang muling ibalik upang mamuno.

    alam kong marami sa bunton ng ating mga bagong sibol na hinubog upang maglingkod sa bayan ang mas merong magagawa kung bibigyan ng pagkakataon at pagtitiwalaan. napipigilan lamang ito ng mga katulad mong ipinagwawalambahala ang pandarayang ginawa ni gloria noong nakaraang halalan. at huwag mong ipagpilitan ‘yung winning margin dahil nangyari ang pagbasura sa mas malalim na bilangan bunga ng ‘NOTED” ni kiko pangilinan at huwag mo ring sabihing si eddie villanueva ang dinaya kundi ang buong sambayanan.

    hindi ka lamang kasi marunong umintindi ng katwiran dahil wala kang iniisip kundi mas magaling ka kahit kanino dito.

  151. nelbar - March 22, 2007 6:09 pm

    “oops, di ko sinabi yn. ang hilig mo talagang mag-atribute ng hindi tutoo.”

     
    ayan ang natutunan ni anthony scalia sa mga tulad ni toting bunye, ed ermitang batangueño, chavit singson na ilokano, ronnie puno na kapampangan, raul gonzales na ilonggo, norbert gonzalez ng pdsp at mike defensor na sinungalin at marami pang iba.

    panggagago at panggogoyo ang isa sa mga legacy na maiiwan ni Gloria Pidal!

    sukang suka na ang mga pilipino sa kanila sa totoo lang!
    napapansin ko nga sa TV kapag nagpa-flash ang mga mukha nila, napapa-mukhasim, napapailing at napapamura ang mga manonood.

  152. we-will-never-learn - March 22, 2007 9:24 pm

    benignO:
    Are these your main arguments on this subject, how pathetic they are!
    Q. But why are there starving Pinoys in the first place?
    (1) multiplying like rabbits without thinking of tomorrow?
    (2) not because “Bolante ran away with the money that supposed to help them in buying fertilizer and insecticide”.
    (3) We depleted our forests
    (4) polluted our rivers
    (5) multiplied like crazy
    (6) became addicted to OFW-$-funded celphones,
    (7) designer clothes, and karaoke machines
    (8) personal accountability for the pathetic state of our country and quit blaming politicians
    (9) today’s politicians, THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE. They were the same in the past, they are the same today, and they WILL be the same in the future
    (10) the number of poor Pinoy. will be more tomorrow Answers to Questions (1) The Lord said go forth and multiply 2) Why did Bolante’s action do the farmers a favour! 3) It’s the DENR (Government) to manage and control the forests (4) Again the DENR manage and control our rivers
    (5) same answer as in Q1
    (6) Your allegation lacks any evidence what-so-ever (clutching at straws!)
    (7) Again lacking evidence – clutching at straws!
    (8) What personal accountability are you talking about – like refusing to work when there’s no work available!
    (9)If politicians wont change and do their job today or tomorrow better they resign, move over for somebody unemployed!
    (10) This Q10 is a negative statement not a question BenignO your true to form knocking the Pinoy but no solutions given, not ever!.
    You really are a waste of space aren’t you.

  153. we-will-never-learn - March 22, 2007 9:40 pm

    I guess its a lot easier to knock the Poor Filipino when you think that your cut & paste will deliver an argument instead of to put real thought to the problem and make the government agencies serve the people by insisting that they do their job they’re employed to do. But of course it takes balls to do that, to challenge a corrupt government dept. who’s failing to do their job as they should do. Pathetic!

  154. we-will-never-learn - March 22, 2007 9:46 pm

    My advice to you before was, do some voluntary work with the disabled or mentally ill or the homeless. Get out of you box and see how the poor really exist, then talk some more after you do some good to your fellow Filipino.

  155. cocoy - March 23, 2007 2:44 am

    Antonio:
    Arroyo has no good governance because her administration is rigged with corruption. A corruption practice in government agencies can distort decision making, discourage investment and undermine competition, it weakened economic growth.
    If you don’t know what is Corruption, I will give you a meaning.
    Corruption is an abuse of power for private gain and it include both public and private sector.
    There are kinds of corruption and here they are;
    1) Bribery
    2)Grand and petty corruption
    3)Active and passive corruption
    4)Embezzlement, theft and fraud
    5)Extortion
    6)Abuse of discretion
    7)Favouritism, nepotism and clientelism
    8)Improper political contribution
    9)Conduct creating or exploiting conflicting interest
    These are the main roots of the problem that we need to eradicate, these are the cancer in our society. It is rampant in our government agencies.

  156. cocoy - March 23, 2007 3:08 am

    Benigno;
    What foresight are you talking about?Can you reason out your statement.

  157. cocoy - March 23, 2007 4:10 am

    Benigno:
    My question to you,Who depleted our forest?

  158. ystakei - March 23, 2007 5:29 am

    Nelbar:

    Iyan ang hirap sa mga pilipino. Mahilig maghilahan ng paa. So what if there will be two malls in Leyte? Bakit hindi sila mag-compete diyan as in laissez-faire. Dito we can compete with everybody and get cooperation at the same time with people in the same kind of business without getting at each other’s throat the way Filipinos are violently encouraged to do as in Pidal way!

  159. ystakei - March 23, 2007 5:40 am

    Taipan88: gloria says that becoz she doesn’t know HOW the ordinary Juan-de-la-Cruz lives….
    *****

    Sinabi niya iyan? Yuck. Alam mo iyan, Taipan, na kapag ganyan ang sabihin ni Abe na PM natin, tanggal siya agad dahil wala ka palang alam e huwag kang naglilider-lideran.

    Ako matagal ko nang alam na bobo iyan at marunong lang ng magsuhol sa mga katulad niyang kurakot kaya nandiyan pa. Ang problema ay bakit pinalulusot ang mga appointee niyan. Golly, corrupt kasi iyong mga miyembro ng Commission on Election. Name their names and I will tell you what kind of crooks they are.

  160. ystakei - March 23, 2007 5:41 am

    Foresight, who? Bobo nga e. Walang utak ang isang iyan to have foresight! PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  161. we-will-never-learn - March 23, 2007 6:00 am

    Cocoy:
    Malaya news in part by Lito Banayo
    Around Parola at the mouth of the Pasig. There she will witness for herself how men, women and children sitting on small footstools crowd around a banyera of imported garlic buds soaked in water. Then with small paring knives fashioned from some abandoned piece of metal, they proceed to peel each garlic clove.
    They are paid five pesos per kilo of peeled garlic cloves, which the middleman then sells to restaurants and food chains. Their hands are calloused from such painstaking and dreary tedium, and their only protection is some makeshift rubber sheeting tied around their palms. Would that their husbands used rubbers instead to sheath their human instrument and create less babies in the process.
    They are able to individually peel some seven kilos each day, and if husband and wife both peel to their heart’s discontent, they would earn 70 pesos a day, enough to buy rice, three packs of instant noodles that they would then share with three children for the two meals each day that they nourish their emaciated bodies with.
    Whatever is left goes to whatever they could save to pay the rent in the hovel someone else built over the flood-soaked land. Some peel the grimy layers of onion bulbs instead. Their eyes have stopped crying, benumbed by the crush of poverty, their only survival opportunity in Gloria’s economic “recovery” being to use two hands and peel and peel.
    Some peel the grimy layers of onion bulbs instead. Their eyes have stopped crying, benumbed by the crush of poverty, their only survival opportunity in Gloria’s economic “recovery” being to use two hands and peel and peel. Go to Parola, la Puting Bato, the hovels of Paco and the esteros of Binondo, and see for yourself

    Mr. BenignO have you been there to see it, that is “luxury”? Tell that to Hello Garci.

  162. cocoy - March 23, 2007 7:27 am

    WWNL;
    Benigno knows the problem but,he don’t want to know.

  163. luzviminda - March 23, 2007 8:57 am

    Cocoy,

    Benign(o) knows the problem, but HE HAS NO SOLUTION!

  164. cocoy - March 23, 2007 9:03 am

    luzviminda;
    Agree ako sa analogy mo.Ganyan sana ang isulat ko noong una kaya lang baka iiyak iyan na parang bata,Ikaw ang nagpaiyak d’yan ha! at hindi ako.Ha!ha!ha!

  165. cocoy - March 23, 2007 10:29 am

    Antonio:
    Since, you have a lot of question I answer them mostly if not all, Have you not taken this lesson while you are attending college?
    I don’t know what course did you take but, I am sure you have been educated in this subject.
    Again, since you are not familiar with natural resources, I will take you to another town in Zambales. In Sta. Cruz there is another mining, the Acoje Mines. It is a composite of chrome and cooper, if you don’t know what is cooper it is a best conductor of electricity, they are exporting this raw material in different countries like U.S.A Canada,Japan.It is an annual billion in business and it create a thousand jobs same as the Coto Mines,
    Now, do you think our country is poor? No,Antonio our country is blessed with treasures but, the only problem our leaders doesn’t know how to manage it.That mountain in Zambales is abundant with wealth more than the Yamashita’s golden buddha but,we need to extract it and turn it into cash. In that mountain the timber are all first class quality like Yakal,mahoganny,Narra,Bulawin.The Zambaleno are preserving that for the next generation.
    Now,If you want me to discuss agriculture you are more welcome.
    How,about your input in this subject, do you have something in mind? The misfortune is not on our people but, the leader who suppose to guide us.

  166. we-will-never-learn - March 23, 2007 10:57 am

    cocoy:
    Now its time to air their solutions, there’s a deadly hush! maybe updating their cut & paste comments (smile).

  167. Spartan - March 23, 2007 10:58 am

    Kumana na naman itong nagpa-pantasya na pantas dito. At sisishin pa ang OFWs na nag-anak daw ng nag-anak tapos iiwanan lang para magtrabaho sa ibang bansa. Laki rin talaga ng butas sa bao niya itong si benignBokya. Walang sustansya ang lumalabas na komento sa utak niya, kamolde ng pag-iisip nina gloria, ip dye, mike miyak, at ng mga bolerong ulol na politiko. Given a choice, do you think one would be crazy to leave his/her family behind, and become a “martyr” in a foreign land? GAbi GOto KA benignBokya!!!

  168. we-will-never-learn - March 23, 2007 11:07 am

    cocoy:
    I’ve come to realise that BenignO is a joker, a bundle of laughs not to be taken too seriously with cut & paste comments only ever attacking the Filipino.
    How sad, he needs to get out of his box and mix with the poor, then he would really observe whats happening to the weaker Filipino, they deserve our support and by doing so its the only way a stronger country can be made.

  169. cocoy - March 23, 2007 11:37 am

    WWNL;
    That’s the problem with them,they think they are smart,they think their PHD work with us in here.Now,they could not even throw a counter punch.As Spartan,Luzviminda and you said and including me,they are nothing but empty shell.

  170. we-will-never-learn - March 23, 2007 11:44 am

    luzviminda:
    The solution starts with removing the Lying, Cheating, Stealing & Extra judicial killings which equates to removing one Evil Fake woman and her Corrupt Administration. It also includes a few Leaders of our Institutions that have been prostituted.
    Then the country is ready to peacefully move forward.

  171. we-will-never-learn - March 23, 2007 12:32 pm

    Stopping Corruption:
    The whole population has been infected over time. The whole population can be viewed as similar to a pyramid with the Leaders & Elite occupying the summit at the top whilst the rest of the population occupy from there down to the base, the largest area.
    Without the Leaders & Elite in the summit of the triangle of the pyramid being corrupt it is much more difficult for the lower base population to become corrupt, because they depend on the Leaders & Elite to sow and allow the evil seed of corruption,
    Once corruption by these Leaders & Elite has been stopped the trickle down effect of the pyramid of corrupt actions to the base population also drys up and the control of corruption amoung the population becomes faster.

    Stopping corruption starts with the Leaders & Elite being stopped. Removing the Fake evil woman and her Administration would be a good start towards corruption reform. Its the only chance of our country being seen as credible in the eye of the International Business Community & investors.
    Once the corruption has been curtailed, we have to have a serious and credible policing policy to identify and prosecute corrupt business.

  172. anthony scalia - March 23, 2007 2:07 pm

    To cocoy:

    “As I mentioned above we have a crisis in governance, we must first find a solution for that reason before we can eradicate poverty”

    many poor people are now screaming for jobs and houses, among other things, and we still have to focus on governance? helping the poor by giving them livelihood and housing, among others, are already within our capabilities! why deny the poor these things? because its primarily the government’s responsibility?

    again, let me cite the results of Gawad Kalinga. GK did not wait for good governance before it started helping build communities.

    “We don’t need a military if we have a strong economy and economic stability”

    South Korea prospered IN THE MIDST of a corrupt military dictatorship.

    “our country is blessed with treasures but, the only problem our leaders doesn’t know how to manage it”

    What management of treasures are you talking about?

    The country, or the government, simply HAS NO MONEY to exploit the country’s natural resources to good use! NO LOCAL ENTREPRENEUR is willing to invest money in the responsible commercial use of our natural resources.

    ONLY A FEW LOCAL COMPANIES can afford the investment of harnessing our natural resources.

    Only Petron and Napocor are the nearest “government” that can commercially put to use our natural resources, But even Petron and Napocor have limited resources.

    By the way, aren’t you going to give credit to the government for the efforts of Petron and Napocor in harnessing the country’s natural resources. I know you won’t, because that would mean giving credit to GMA.

    Which leaves foreign investors as the remaining source of capital for mining etc.

    And for those who were given permits to mine and responsibly commercialize the natural resources, they are only paying our government royalties.

    Maybe you should rephrase your argument here. it should be “the government is clueless on how to attract more investments, particularly foreign direct investments, on the harnessing of natural resources.” No argument there.

    Or you can also say “the government is inept in enforcing laws against environmental degradation.” no argument there also

    “Our farmers did not have a bountiful harvest on their crops because Bolante ran away with the money that supposed to help them in buying fertilizer and insecticides”

    my goodness! are you saying that the ferilizer fund Bolante ran away with could have been the “magic pill” or the catalyst that would lift our farmers out of poverty?

    “If that money is properly implemented and disbursed,we can have an abundant harvest and we will not be importing a thousand of metric tons of rice from Vietnam and China,our people will not starve”

    I’ll be echoing benignO on this – why are our people starving in the first place? is government the scapegoat for the uncontrolled population growth? is government at fault if a farmer with meager income has 7 children?

    “The misfortune is not on our people but, the leader who suppose to guide us”

    Sorry to differ, but the misfortune is on the common pinoy, who despite the glaring examples of private initiative by its Asian neighbors, still insist on the president leading them to the promised land!

    ON CORRUPTION – yes corruption is a problem. Im not denying that. that’s the basis of the respondents of that PERC survey which listed the Phils. as no. 1 in corruption.

    Corruption scares off foreign investment. Maybe if there were less of corruption, more foreign investment will come in.

    Here’s where the private sector pinoys can come in – because foreign direct investment is still by the droplet, the pinoys will have to fill in the jobs that should have been provided by foreign investors had they not been scared away by corruption.

    Besides, I’ll say this again – in malaysia, corruption had been institutionalized under Mahathir. Yet how come Malaysia is advanced?

    Korea also is beset with corruption, during its growing years.

    “Since, you have a lot of question I answer them mostly if not all, Have you not taken this lesson while you are attending college?”

    You answered this yourself, with this – “I don’t know what course did you take but, I am sure you have been educated in this subject” THANK YOU!!!

    Napagod ka pa tuloy in asking “Since, you have a lot of question I answer them mostly if not all, Have you not taken this lesson while you are attending college?”

  173. anthony scalia - March 23, 2007 2:11 pm

    To we-will-never-learn:

    “The Lord said go forth and multiply”

    The same Lord who said that also said “Whoever fails to provide for his family is worse than an unbeliever”

  174. anthony scalia - March 23, 2007 2:25 pm

    To nelbar:

    sa pagkahaba-haba ng tanong mo, di mo pa rin nasagot ang tanong ko – kung paano makakatulong ang nakararaming pilipino para maging economic tiger ang pilipinas.

    iwas tanong ka pa by saying “huwag mo nang isali sa usapan ang tiger economy. ang tiger economy ay eksklusibo lamang yan sa mga Asyanong bansa”

    BAKIT? HINDI BA NASA ASYA ANG ‘PINAS?

    AT SAKA TO STRESS KUNG PAANO KAHULI ANG ‘PINAS ECONOMICALLY, ANG COMPARISON AY OUR ASIAN NEIGHBORS?

    kasi di mo talaga alam ang sagot. para ka nga tulad nina Binay at Erap. ang silbi ng mga nakararaming pilipino ay maging source ng mga boto!

    “Pero mas prefer ko may sariling paninindigan. Na tulad ng sa India, Thailand at Vietnam ng may sari-sariling industriya. Sa India, tao pa lang nila ay industriya na.
    Sa Thailand ang kanilang tourism. At sa Vietnam naman ay ang agrilcutural industry nila, pero kung tutuusin ay sa atin lang naman natuto ito kung papaano ang paggamit ng kalabaw sa pag-aararo ng mga sakahan”

    nakupo! ngayon mo lang sinabi yan. napakalayo nyan sa pinakamamahal mong “PATALSIKIN NA NOW NA”

    saka yang mga bansang nabanggit mo, ang success nila ay dahil sa mga mamamayan nila, at hindi dahil sa pangulo nila!

    “pero alam mo anthony scalia, panahon naman na tayo ang matuto sa mga bansang binanggit ko. Hindi lang yung panay na lang tayo gaya ng gaya na tulad ng ginagawa mo dito sa blog ni ellen”

    nakupo! ang paninindigan mo lamang ay “PATALSIKIN NA NOW NA.”

    nandamay ka pa!

    ni hindi ko nga ginagaya yang “PATALSIKIN NA NOW NA”

    pero kung tatahakin mo yang bagong paninindigan na sinasabi mo, ay ok na ok yan.

    By the way, ang Tata Group ay pag-aari ng bilyonaryong pamilyang Tata sa India. Ang Tata Computer Services ay isa lamang division ng Tata Group.

    Ang talagang start-up success ay Infosys.

    Ang Wipro naman ay nag-umpisa sa ibang produkto. na-leverage nila ang kinikita dito para lumipat sa IT services.

  175. anthony scalia - March 23, 2007 2:38 pm

    To cocoy:

    sorry to say this, but i am making this urgent plea again – lets stick to the issues, and make our discussions civil and intelligent.

    whether i took some subjects or heard some lessons in college or not is not the point of our discussion. besides, that won’t aid in our discussion. you may not be using ad hominems, but you are close to.

    gayahin mo yung exchanges namin ni Ka Enchong – walang ganyang mga statement.

    saka sayang yung exchanges mo with benignO. opportunity pa naman to dialogue with him. walang patutunguhan ang discussion kung puro atake sa tao ang gagawin.

    if you will notice, di gumaganti si benignO sa mga ad hominems nyo (unlike me).

  176. we-will-never-learn - March 23, 2007 3:19 pm

    anthony scalia:
    “The Lord said go forth and multiply” The same Lord who said that also said – you say you agree but it was benignO who posed the question. So, does he agree? thats whats interesting me, not what you think!

  177. we-will-never-learn - March 23, 2007 3:26 pm

    cocoy:
    An hour has passed since his ‘urgent plea’ but still not a solution in sight Hahahahah! Dis I hear somebody say empty shell?

  178. cocoy - March 23, 2007 3:39 pm

    Antonio,at least you agree that corruption is the roots of the problem.Now,what’s your argument?

    WWNL;The only way we can eradicate corruption in the government is to impeach the leader.

    It’s 12:48 Am in my place,time for a good sleep.
    Goodnite,everyone!

  179. cocoy - March 23, 2007 3:51 pm

    Antonio:
    About Napocor huwag mo ng pag-aksayahin ng panahon iyon,dahil ang kinatatayuan noon sa Bani sa may Masinloc ay lupain ng mga pamilya namin iyon na minana namin sa aming mga ninunu.Nasa bangko pa ang mga daan-daang milyones na halaga ng lupa at tumutubo ng interest.Matagal na iyon panahon pa niFVR,kaya walang kinalaman ang amo mo doon.

  180. Ka Enchong - March 23, 2007 10:42 pm

    “It’s about time we took personal accountability for the pathetic state of our country and quit blaming politicians. No matter how many insults and hollow-headed taunts we throw at today’s politicians, THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE. They were the same in the past, they are the same today, and they WILL be the same in the future.”

    Taking personal accountability is one thing, demanding accountability from politicians is another thing. We take personal accountability for our own lives. We hold our politicians accountable only for the promotion of an environment conducive to progress. While, admittedly, the current crop of politicians do not promote such an environment, we must not lose sight of our personal accountabilities.

    We do not owe these politicians anything. On the contrary, they owe us their existence. We do not exist at their convenience, they exist at our sufferance.

    If ever there are people we owe a lot to, they are our children.

    I am raising my voice against these politicians because they are not doing enough for the Filipino people. They may be thinking beyond today, but their thoughts do not go beyond their own family members, conveniently forgetting that every morsel of food that goes into their stomachs is owed to the people whose blood, sweat, tears trust, and aspirations they promised to uphold.

    My personal circumstances improved in spite of, not because of, the countless parade of politicians who came my way every election time pleading for my vote. Personally, pakialam ko sa kanila? Better to work for my children’s future than to work for whatever it is these politicians want. But, as a Filipino, I have to care- not for the politicians- but for the Filipinos who remain invisible all throughout time; whose existence become vital only in times like these- election time.

  181. anthony scalia - March 24, 2007 5:33 am

    to cocky:

    “About Napocor huwag mo ng pag-aksayahin ng panahon iyon,dahil ang kinatatayuan noon sa Bani sa may Masinloc ay lupain ng mga pamilya namin iyon na minana namin sa aming mga ninunu.Nasa bangko pa ang mga daan-daang milyones na halaga ng lupa at tumutubo ng interest.Matagal na iyon panahon pa niFVR,kaya walang kinalaman ang amo mo doon”

    Iho, isa ka palang panginoong maylupa! Your slip is showing!

    Anyway di iyan ang issue. Why did I mention NAPOCOR? Just to stress that government has limited resources to harness the natural resources.

    And take note iho, ANG PINAG-UUSAPAN NATIN DITO AY “WHAT CAN THE PRESIDENT DO TO ERADICATE POVERTY” AT HINDI “DEFENDING GMA”

    By saying that “panahon pa ni FVR yon at walang kinalaman ang ‘amo’ mo doon” AY IMPLIED ADMISSION THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAD BEEN DOING SOMETHING TO HARNESS NATURAL RESOURCES.

    Since you mentioned mga panahon ng presidente, meron din namang few explorations after maupo si GMA in 2001 – like the Malampaya site.

    “Antonio,at least you agree that corruption is the roots of the problem.Now,what’s your argument?”

    First, what i said was corruption is a problem, but not the roots of the problem. Let me quote that:

    “ON CORRUPTION – yes corruption is a problem. Im not denying that. that’s the basis of the respondents of that PERC survey which listed the Phils. as no. 1 in corruption.”

    Here’s my argument – CORRUPTION IN GOVERNMENT NEED NOT BE AN OBSTACLE TO ECONOMIC GROWTH.

    I’ve been citing the examples of South Korea and Malaysia as proofs of economic progress despite the presence of corruption. These countries progressed because of the collective efforts of its citizens, NOT BECAUSE OF A GOVERNMENT THAT PRACTICES GOOD GOVERNANCE.

    (and most definitely, not because its citizens were shouting their version of “PATALSIKIN NA NOW NA!”)

    NOW WHAT’S YOUR ARGUMENT ON THE SOUTH KOREAN AND MALAYSIAN SUCCESS STORIES?

    UULITIN KO – ANG ISSUE DITO AY HINDI “DEFENDING GMA”

  182. anthony scalia - March 24, 2007 5:48 am

    to we-will-never learn:

    ————————————————————
    “The Lord said go forth and multiply” The same Lord who said that also said – you say you agree but it was benignO who posed the question. So, does he agree? thats whats interesting me, not what you think!
    ————————————————————

    Let me refresh your memory.

    In response to benignO’s

    “(1)multiplying like rabbits without thinking of tomorrow?

    you gave as Answer:

    Answers to Questions (1) The Lord said go forth and multiply”

    You were contesting benignO’s comment on uncontrolled or unplanned baby-making, by saying that “The Lord said go forth and multiply”

    benignO never endorsed uncontrolled or unplanned baby-making. He was simply making an observation. Lets quote that: “Could it be we focused too much on multiplying like rabbits without thinking of tomorrow?”

    In short, your response to the preceding question is “The Lord said go forth and multiply.” Implying wag mong pigilan ang pagdami ng populasyon.

    My response is, the Lord never commanded irresponsible baby-making. That’s why i cited “whoever does not provide for his family is worse than an unbeliever.” Well if a man can adequately support ten children, then he should go ahead. But if a man earning below the minimum wage still wants to make baby no. 8, eh ibang usapan na yan.

    its clear – for benignO, he is not for irresponsible baby-making

    “An hour has passed since his ‘urgent plea’ but still not a solution in sight Hahahahah! Dis I hear somebody say empty shell?”

    bakit mo pinagtatawanan si cocoy? porke ba di sya naka-reply after “an hour has passed” from my “urgent plea”? ikaw talaga! wag mong itulad si cocoy sa iyo na can blog here 24/7.

  183. anthony scalia - March 24, 2007 6:13 am

    To Ka Enchong:

    “Taking personal accountability is one thing, demanding accountability from politicians is another thing. We take personal accountability for our own lives. We hold our politicians accountable only for the promotion of an environment conducive to progress. While, admittedly, the current crop of politicians do not promote such an environment, we must not lose sight of our personal accountabilities”

    That’s true. However, if we’ll just wait for politicians to act accordingly, walang mangyayari sa ‘Pinas.

    “My personal circumstances improved in spite of, not because of, the countless parade of politicians who came my way every election time pleading for my vote. Personally, pakialam ko sa kanila? Better to work for my children’s future than to work for whatever it is these politicians want.”

    Very true. 100% agree ako dyan.

    Pero Ka Enchong, sabi mo nga, you are where you are now inspite of politicians. Ako rin, I am where I am now no matter who sat and will sit in government. SO SUCCESS IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT HELP! (studying in public schools excluded) THAT’S WHAT OUR COUNTRY NEEDS – EACH PINOY TAKING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OWN WELL-BEING. COLLECTIVELY, MAGANDA ANG MAGIGING RESULTA FOR THE COUNTRY.
    THAT IS WHAT SHOULD BE IMBIBED IN EACH PINOY. WE SHOULD BE HELPING OUR LESS-FORTUNATE KABABAYANS WORK FOR THEIR WELL-BEING.

    Those who will differ will say, ‘pababayaan na lang ba natin ang kapabayaan at kawalan ng responsibilidad ng kasalukuyang gobyerno? masaya sila kung ganun!’ korek

    Pero why would we deny help to our less fortunate kababayans if it is within our capabilities? There are lots of NGOs who are helping alleviate the conditions of the poor NOW, without waiting for government to act accordingly.

    “But, as a Filipino, I have to care- not for the politicians- but for the Filipinos who remain invisible all throughout time; whose existence become vital only in times like these- election time”

    And the best way to care for them is to help them become like us – financially independent (sa mga pilosopo: take note, i never said rich), self-reliant, which leads to being an intelligent voter who will never vote for politicians who just keeps his/her electorate poor like Binay.

    Helping them is lots of hard work, and entails many things – quality education, good health, means of livelihood, economic activity in the countrysides, etc. It can’t be accomplished by one person alone. No one should do it all alone.

    Do you want to boot out corrupt politicians? The more lasting solution is to elevate the poor to become part of the middle class! One ad in a broadsheet in the past said it well – with a background of a picture of shanties along a railroad track, there is a text saying “The more we have of these, the more we have of corrupt politicians!” The ad encouraged/challenged the readers to help in alleviate the conditions and empower the poor.

    Cursing the darkness will not create light. Light will dispel darkness.

  184. cocoy - March 24, 2007 7:23 am

    Antonio;
    When a government is corrupt and unaccountable, poverty reduction program has a little success, the poor can not gain access to a public services from unresponsive corrupted agencies.
    But, election time, politician are making a lucrative promises such as Vote for me Manong and I will build a nice hospital, I offer scholarships for your children, so on and so forth. But, when the politician elected to office, they suffered amnesia. People just let them go because of ego and delicadesa at pakikisama. That attitude is wrong and they need to wake up in reality or else they will become a victim of corrupt officials. They need to hold that elected official accountable for the promises, without continuous pressure they will always a victim of broken promises until the next election time come again. That’s what I called a poor governance from the elected official who forgot to render a service to their constituents,because the first thing they have in mind is CORRUPTION.

  185. cocoy - March 24, 2007 7:53 am

    Antonio:
    Corruption distort the allocation of resources away from their most efficient use and depresses the incentives to invest, that’s the reason why it slows economic growth.,the corrosive effects are pervasive The poor pay the high prices. It directs income away from them and robs society of resources that it could deploy to eradicate poverty When a politician has an improvement project on their district half of the budget went to their pocket and it siphoned off many of the their benefit, it deprives the poor of an equitable share of society’s resources and indirectly reduces the opportunities for poverty reduction by dampening economic growth such as the case from Bolante. Maybe, some might say just let it go, it’s past tense and move-on. It was wrong because that opportunity is very seldom to occur.
    A farmer in the barrio who till a 1 hectare farmland need at least 7-8 bags of fertilizer and 2 bottles of insecticides so that they can harvest 60-70 cavans. without those necessities in his farm he is lucky if he can harvest 20 cavans.Now,Antonio, How many hectares and farmers was been affected by that scams? How many metric tons of rice? Those were the rural folks and small farmers directly encountered that corruption of Bolante who monopolized the pocketing of money for their needed agricultural products. They tried but, they were forsaken by a corrupt officials.

  186. we-will-never-learn - March 24, 2007 8:35 am

    “Helping them is lots of hard work, and entails many things – quality education, good health, means of livelihood, economic activity in the countrysides, etc. It can’t be accomplished by one person alone. No one should do it all alone.”
    Do you want to boot out corrupt politicians? The more lasting solution is to elevate the poor to become part of the middle class!
    Okey anthony scalia: you say a lot such as lots of hard work” that it “can’t be accomplished by one person alone” But you don’t give a solution such as howt is the lots of hard work to be done; how to elevate the poor to become part of the middle class and who’s the middle class YOU!
    They are not looking to be a class, they are satisfied with good-to-honest-work to be able to earn a living and put food on the table for their children. You don’t give any detail as to how you will elevate the poor to your “Middle Class’ status and besides why blame the poor when the corruption starts at the top of the pile and works its way down to the bottom layers. Lets correct the wholesale crime being perpetrated by the elite then the trickle down effect will reach the poor.
    You cannot get away from the fact that this Fake woman and her corrupt administration’s removal is the starting point. Less stealing, less lying, less cheating, less corruption, less fraud, less extra judicial killings less hunger.
    This Fake woman is in total denial, now today, she’s denying that there’s hunger in the country, yesterday she said the hunger was small!
    Haemorrhoid Assperon is in denial, first he says that his military are in the slum areas to give them assistance – then he changes it to the community leaders requested them to be there, – then he changes that to the PNP has requested the military to be there, – then it changes to the military have intelligence reports (intelligence thats a cracker! my filipino pet dog has more intelligence!) then the PNP will only confirm that they are checking that intelligence report. They are in total denial too!
    If we find ourselves in a real war situation, believe me we’re in the shit up to our necks with these Micky Mouse Leaders…time to sack the Bastards!

  187. anthony scalia - March 24, 2007 8:54 am

    To cocky:

    ————————————————————
    When a government is corrupt and unaccountable, poverty reduction program has a little success, the poor can not gain access to a public services from unresponsive corrupted agencies
    ————————————————————

    True. No problem with that. But government is not the only one which can solve the poverty problem. And the poor can access the private sector. Its a matter of bringing the poor and the appropriate private sector representative together.

    Social entrepreneurship is the need of the moment.

    ————————————————————
    But, election time, politician are making a lucrative promises such as Vote for me Manong and I will build a nice hospital, I offer scholarships for your children, so on and so forth. But, when the politician elected to office, they suffered amnesia. People just let them go because of ego and delicadesa at pakikisama. That attitude is wrong and they need to wake up in reality or else they will become a victim of corrupt officials. They need to hold that elected official accountable for the promises, without continuous pressure they will always a victim of broken promises until the next election time come again. That’s what I called a poor governance from the elected official who forgot to render a service to their constituents,because the first thing they have in mind is CORRUPTION
    ————————————————————

    True. Wala akong problema dyan. But the private sector can step in and provide the scholarships and health care. (by private sector i mean the people outside government).

    Yan ang problema kung nakatuon lang ang pansin sa politiko, kung ang pag-asenso ay iaasa lamang sa pulitiko, walang mangyayari.

    Mayaman ka, cocky. Siguradong yumaman kayo dahil sa sariling sikap, at hindi dahil sa pulitiko. Tulungan natin ang mga kababayan natin ng sariling sikap, i-ugnay sila sa economic opportunities na kadalasan ay open lamang sa mga taga-siyudad.

    ————————————————————
    Corruption distort the allocation of resources away from their most efficient use and depresses the incentives to invest, that’s the reason why it slows economic growth.,the corrosive effects are pervasive The poor pay the high prices. It directs income away from them and robs society of resources that it could deploy to eradicate poverty When a politician has an improvement project on their district half of the budget went to their pocket and it siphoned off many of the their benefit, it deprives the poor of an equitable share of society’s resources and indirectly reduces the opportunities for poverty reduction by dampening economic growth such as the case from Bolante. Maybe, some might say just let it go, it’s past tense and move-on. It was wrong because that opportunity is very seldom to occur.
    ————————————————————

    True. Wala akong problema dyan.

    Pero bakit ikaw, lahat ng bloggers dito, nakarating where they are without government help/dole out? regardless of who sat in government? bakit when it comes to the poor, gobyerno ang may responsibilidad?

    nandun na ako sa view na obligasyon yan ng gobyerno. pero kung hihintayin pang umaksyon ang gobyerno, ay wala talagang mangyayari. kahit anong batikos pa ang ipukol sa gobyerno, di rin yan magre-resulta sa job creation.

    Ang key ay tulungan natin ang mga poor na maging tulad natin – maging educated and capable of having a means of livelihood. Again, there is more to that than meets the eye.

    Yung mga OFW dito, umangat sila, without government help.

    (For sure may pilosopong magsasabi, kung nag-provide lamang ang gobyerno ng jobs dito, di na sila aalis)

    Saka pareng cocky, di mo pa sinasagot yung query ko sa iyo – how do you explain the rise to economic success of South Korea and Malaysia IN THE MIDST OF A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT?

    Mukhang landed kayo, cocky. Di ba agricultural land yang lupa nyo? Baka CARPable yan. Show that you’re light years ahead of GMA and Tita Cory in integrity by voluntarily submitting your lands for CARP distribution. Don’t haggle anymore on valuation. Make it easy for your tenants to repay.

  188. we-will-never-learn - March 24, 2007 8:58 am

    anthony scalia:
    To cocky: Really! what happened to your “urgent appeal” to be polite yesterday. Is the truth getting to you HahahahaH!

  189. we-will-never-learn - March 24, 2007 9:14 am

    But government is not the only one which can solve the poverty problem. And the poor can access the private sector. Its a matter of bringing the poor and the appropriate private sector representative together.
    If you refering to the likes of the housing programmes shown recently in the church organisations sector, although its a commendable programme, its a drop in the ocean.
    Government assistance to the poor is mainly programmes such as the military giving one day medical & dental check-up which means a nurse taking your blood pressure at most and tooth extractions. What happens when they find someone poor with say blindness with a cataract and unable to work, let me tell you, they do nothing for that poor person, who with a simple one hour operation could be able to regain their sight and work to support their families.
    If Foundations can set up successful cataract clinics, why can’t the government do the same, because it does not put corrupt peso in the politians pocket, pure and simple.

  190. cocoy - March 24, 2007 9:19 am

    Antonio:
    Marami kaming tenant at iyong mga lupain ng pamilya namin ay lupa lang namnin sa pangalan pero lahat ng pakinabang sa kanila na.Tama na iyong pag-umuuwi kami ay hinahandaan nila kami ng manga at buko,ayos na iyon.May nakapuwesto na doon simula pa ng panahon ng lolo namin.So,wala kaming problema sa kanila at para na namin silang pamilya.Lahat kami ay nandito sa America,mga anak namin ay hindi maninirahan sa pinas.Mababait kaming lahat magpipinsan at naiintindihan namin ang mga pangangailangan nila.Kaya lang hindi namin kayang tulungan lahat.Iyong mga naapektuhan ng Napocor nairilocate na namin sila at binigyan ng pera.

  191. anthony scalia - March 24, 2007 9:23 am

    To we-will-never-learn:

    “But you don’t give a solution such as howt is the lots of hard work to be done; how to elevate the poor to become part of the middle class and who’s the middle class YOU!”

    WHAT’S WRONG WITH THAT?! DON’T YOU WANT TO UPLIFT THE CONDITION OF THE POOR??!! I CERTAINLY WANT THE POOR UPLIFTED!

    SIGURO DAHIL AYAW MONG MAGING KABALIKAT ANG MGA MAHIHIRAP! AYAW MONG I-INTEGRATE ANG MGA POOR SA MAINSTREAM OF SOCIETY. GUSTO MO SILANG MARGINALIZED NA LANG.

    SAYING THAT MAKING THE POOR PART OF THE MIDDLE CLASS IS ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING “ALLEVIATING THE CONDITION OF THE POOR”! ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING “GIVE THEM JOBS/MEANS OF LIVELIHOOD THAT CAN ADEQUATELY PROVIDE FOR THEIR NEEDS!!! ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING “MAKE THE POOR FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT!!!”

    OK IF YOU DON’T WANT TO USE “MIDDLE CLASS” OR ANYTHING PERTAINING TO CLASS, FINE! LETS USE “MAKE THE POOR FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT!!!” INSTEAD. LIKE ALL BLOGGERS HERE, FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT.

    AYAW MO BANG DUMAMI ANG “MIDDLE CLASS”? DI BA ANG MIDDLE CLASS ANG SUMIPA KAY MACOY AT ERAP? DI BA AN GPURCHASING POWER NG MIDDLE CLASS ANG DRIVER NG ECONOMY?

    Pray tell me, how else can you help the poor? The tenor of your statement shows you want them to remain poor. Ask the poor if they want to stay poor. How can you give them the purchasing power of the middle class?

    The poor will not become part of the middle class by dole outs. Oops, let me rephrase that – the poor will not become financially independent by dole outs.

    I CAME FROM A POOR BACKGROUND. I AM NOW PART OF THE MIDDLE CLASS BECAUSE SOMEONE GAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MY FATHER TO WORK, WHICH ENABLED HIM TO SEND ME TO GOOD SCHOOLS AND RECEIVE QUALITY EDUCATION WHICH ENABLED ME TO MAKE A LIVING NOW. IT IS IN THIS CONTEXT THAT I SAID “HELPING THE POOR BE A MEMBER OF THE MIDDLE CLASS.” I WANT ALL THE POOR TO EXPERIENCE WHAT I WENT THROUGH.

    ITS NOT A MATTER OF DENOMINATING “CLASS.”

    “besides why blame the poor when the corruption starts at the top of the pile and works its way down to the bottom layers”

    Ooops I never blamed the poor. Kindly cut-and-paste the quote in which i said that.

    “Lets correct the wholesale crime being perpetrated by the elite then the trickle down effect will reach the poor”

    Yes, that remains important.

    But the top-down approach does not work. You’re not empowering the poor! Why wait for a good government before realizing the trickle-down effect WHEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN ALREADY INITIATE THE TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT.

    YOU WANT A SOLUTION? SOCIAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP. EMPOWERING THE POOR. NOT WAITING FOR GOVERNMENT TO ACT ACCORDINGLY.

    HOW DO YOU EMPOWER THE POOR? GIVE THEM ACCESS TO QUALITY EDUCATION, ADEQUATE HEALTH CARE, EQUAL JOB OPPORTUNITIES/MEANS OF LIVELIHOOD. THESE ARE GOALS WHICH GUIDE WHAT ACTIONS TO TAKE.

    TONY MELOTO AND GAWAD KALINGA HAVE SHOWN WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THE POVERTY SITUATION HERE.

    I DON’T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, AND I CAN’T THINK OF ALL POSSIBLE CONCRETE ACTIONS. BUT I HAVE PROVIDED, IN MY OWN MODEST WAY, A STARTING POINT.

    IF YOU AIM AT NOTHING, YOU’RE SURE TO HIT IT.

    One thing more – repeated chantings of bastard, Fake woman, Assperon and the like, no matter how true, will never translate into jobs/means of livelihood.

  192. anthony scalia - March 24, 2007 9:35 am

    To we-will-never-learn:

    ————————————————————
    anthony scalia:
    To cocky: Really! what happened to your “urgent appeal” to be polite yesterday. Is the truth getting to you HahahahaH!
    ————————————————————

    sorry, but di ko na-gets.

    are you saying that the truth is getting to me, finally, that i can’t expect cocky to be polite? or worse, i can’t expect anyone here to be polite?

    i have to expect the best from people. even though i stated elsewhere that 99.9% of bloggers here don’t think at all, wisdom tells me to still expect the best from people.

    Kaya i have to believe that 99.9% of all bloggers here are capable of (and willing to engage in) a polite, civil and intelligent discussion, and are able to think.

    To cocky:

    noted.

  193. anthony scalia - March 24, 2007 9:42 am

    To we-will-never-learn:

    ————————————————————
    If you refering to the likes of the housing programmes shown recently in the church organisations sector, although its a commendable programme, its a drop in the ocean”
    ————————————————————

    No, not limited to the religious sector.

    If its just a drop in the ocean – and it is -, it just means that more and more people from the private sector should come in and join and do likewise. It sure beats chanting “PATALSIKIN NA NOW NA”

    ————————————————————
    Government assistance to the poor is mainly programmes such as the military giving one day medical & dental check-up which means a nurse taking your blood pressure at most and tooth extractions. What happens when they find someone poor with say blindness with a cataract and unable to work, let me tell you, they do nothing for that poor person, who with a simple one hour operation could be able to regain their sight and work to support their families.
    ————————————————————

    True. That’s where the private sector can come in.

    ————————————————————
    If Foundations can set up successful cataract clinics, why can’t the government do the same, because it does not put corrupt peso in the politians pocket, pure and simple.
    ————————————————————

    True. Same answer, that’s why the private sector through the foundations stepped in to fill the gap left by government. Cataracts will not be healed if the foundations just waited for government to act accordingly.

    Di mawawala yung mga cataract kung hihintayin pang umaksyon ang gobyerno.

  194. we-will-never-learn - March 24, 2007 9:54 am

    “I CAME FROM A POOR BACKGROUND. I AM NOW PART OF THE MIDDLE CLASS BECAUSE SOMEONE GAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MY FATHER TO WORK, WHICH ENABLED HIM TO SEND ME TO GOOD SCHOOLS AND RECEIVE QUALITY EDUCATION WHICH ENABLED ME TO MAKE A LIVING NOW. IT IS IN THIS CONTEXT THAT I SAID “HELPING THE POOR BE A MEMBER OF THE MIDDLE CLASS.” I WANT ALL THE POOR TO EXPERIENCE WHAT I WENT THROUGH.”
    What makes me think, that opportunity of work was with the government.
    anthony scalia: I don’t regard myself as being middleclass even though I have my own business I regard myself as classless. Every day of the week I find time to go to the barrio’s to help the poor, I belong to organisations that physically assist the poor, hence the need to return to the barrio’s.
    I’m down to earth, talk to people straight into their face. fear nobody but my maker, honest and don’t take fools gladly. If those three words I used caused you a problem then its just as well you don’t hear me in full flight (smile) in fact this woman is ‘Fake’ this Military Leadr is an ‘Ass’ and they are all Liars like ‘Bastards’ so I have no problem with those comments.
    anthony scalia: visit cataract-clinic.blogspot.com/ where I have had a project for more than 2 years to assist the poor but it seems nobody is interested because its voluntary with no financial reward to the volunteer.

  195. anthony scalia - March 24, 2007 10:09 am

    To we-will-never-learn:

    “What makes me think, that opportunity of work was with the government”

    No

    “anthony scalia: I don’t regard myself as being middleclass even though I have my own business I regard myself as classless. Every day of the week I find time to go to the barrio’s to help the poor, I belong to organisations that physically assist the poor, hence the need to return to the barrio’s”

    noted. to repeat, my use of “middle class” is to show how much should be done to help the poor, dole outs not enough. “Middle class” as a “key result area.” Ensuring that the things accessible by the middle class are also accessible by the poor, which can only happen if the poor becomes middle class.

    “anthony scalia: visit cataract-clinic.blogspot.com/ where I have had a project for more than 2 years to assist the poor but it seems nobody is interested because its voluntary with no financial reward to the volunteer”

    noted with thanks, i’ll visit it. i’ll do my best to give financial support. sorry, but giving is all i can do. i have another chosen area of advocacy which require my presence.

    i commend you for your efforts. you have done your part in alleviating the condition of our kababayans. there’s more to you than “PATALSIKIN NA NOW NA”

    i can now understand your desire for a trickle down effect from government. by being in the barrios, you can feel the effects of government neglect. if i were there, i’d feel the effects too.

  196. cocoy - March 24, 2007 10:16 am

    Antonio;
    Of course! I agree with you that we need to extend help to our poor kababayan so that they can alleviate themselves from poverty. We need to distribute wealth, but, we can do that? The government and private lending institution need to step -up and they need to pitch the ball to the batter on the plate. But, there is a big obstacle and that’s the creditworthiness of the poor has been proven irrespective of classes status, they are often been denied access to credit by legal and traditional barriers. The financial institution look at them as an inconsistently and unreliable in repayment of loans. The bank look at them that they are vulnerable to a multiplicity of personal and financial disasters, illness generates medical expenses, death necessitates funeral expense, crop failures requires another expenditures on food as well as the next seedlings for the next planting season, The poor also face foreseeable but unmanageable expendenture such as tuition fees, this uncontrollable situation are forcing them to sell the few assets they have to raise cash .But ,because the bank rejected their loan application they go to Sighn an indian shark loan lender with repaying of crippling their pocket with interest.5-6 a week.
    This is what our government failed to addressed their needs. Nobody wants a dole-out because we pinoys has what we called (fried chicken).If the bank can open a credit line for them, they can be self supporting without government help. But, first let the government teach them how to walk.Setting up a small business loan without palakasan,bata-bata system at padulas.
    :

  197. we-will-never-learn - March 24, 2007 10:21 am

    anthony scalia:
    Thanks for your reply, I have an Email address on my Blog and will always reply to suggestions. Plus a ‘Shout Box’.

  198. Ka Enchong - March 24, 2007 2:09 pm

    “anthony scalia:
    Thanks for your reply, I have an Email address on my Blog and will always reply to suggestions. Plus a ‘Shout Box’.”

    Nakakataba ng puso ang ganitong mga palitan. Just scheming through the current exchanges made me see that I have been correct all along- the Philippines is not a hopeless case.

    I understand the hatred of people towards government. I feel the same hatred, too.

    Everybody is doing his own unique contibution to a collective effort called nation-building. Ang saya!

    “Cursing the darkness will not create light. Light will dispel darkness.”

    Agree 100%!

    In fact, just making sure that our children’s lives are much better that ours is not only a good start, it is our responsibility as parents. Comparing my growing up years with those of my children puts a really good smile across. I had to skip meals while growing up, they only had to chose what to eat. I had to skip college to simply help my family survive, while they only have to wait for their turn and they’ll have the education they want.

  199. cocoy - March 24, 2007 3:13 pm

    Pareng Ka Enchong,WWNL and Anthony:
    This kind of discussion I want to enjoy,for sure I miss the input of BenignO.

  200. Ka Enchong - March 24, 2007 3:24 pm

    Pareng Cocoy:

    I can’t agree more. I tend to look at benignO’s posts as those of an unbeliever exposing himself to the possibililites of believing. Kagaya ng sinabi ko dati, there is no need to proclaim the virtues of Catholicism to Catholics. Kaya welcome sa akin ang mga opinyon na taliwas sa sarili kong opinyon. Kung hindi ko kayang ipagtanggol ang opinyon ko, baka nga mali ako. Si Anthony, alam kong kaisa natin ‘yan sa pangangarap ng isang magandang bukas para sa Pilipinas, maaaring nagkakaiba nga lang ng approach. I would like to think that even benignO is one with us in that aspiration. After all, we are all Filipinos sharing common roots and looking forward to common ends. Personally, I would even welcome arguments from the so-called GMA Internet Brigade. Malay mo, mapabaligtad natin?

  201. Mrivera - March 24, 2007 5:37 pm

    ka enchong,

    magdilang anghel ka sana.

  202. nelbar - March 25, 2007 6:31 pm

    GSD means Green Screen of Death error message in TiVo(DVR – Digital Video Recording)

  203. anthony scalia - March 25, 2007 9:04 pm

    To we-will-never-learn:

    you’re welcome

    (sorry for the all-caps reply)

  204. anthony scalia - March 25, 2007 9:42 pm

    To cocky:

    “But, there is a big obstacle and that’s the creditworthiness of the poor has been proven irrespective of classes status, they are often been denied access to credit by legal and traditional barriers”

    True, but the private sector has stepped in, through microfinance. And the repayment rate of microfinance lenders here is unbelievable – 98%! The poor have shown that they can be creditworthy!

    Banks have joined the microfinance bandwagon, but their microfinance portfolio is still small compared to its other lending areas.

    “This is what our government failed to addressed their needs. Nobody wants a dole-out because we pinoys has what we called (fried chicken).If the bank can open a credit line for them, they can be self supporting without government help. But, first let the government teach them how to walk.Setting up a small business loan without palakasan,bata-bata system at padulas”

    True, but i think the more accurate term is the government should still intensify its lending operations. DBP and LBP have considerable lending to agriculture and industry. DBP has even a credit facility for SMEs, lent through conduit banks. SMEs can make loans from these conduit banks; DBP acts as guarantor. There’s also a Small Business Guarantee Finance Corp. which lends to SMEs and accessible to many SMEs.

    Its a long way to go, but a start has been made. And we cannot deny the success of the SMEs who benefitted from government assistance through DBP, LBP, SBGFC.

    Believe it or not, the government is already exerting efforts to make SMEs and the poor “self supporting without government help.” The government already started teaching them how to walk.

    I hope im wrong with what im going to say, but i think most of you have been blinded by your anti-GMA stance that you can’t see and appreciate the activities of other government agencies in uplifting the plight of the marginalized here. I repeat, it may not be enough, but efforts have been made, and results achieved. Like the Department of Agriculture.

    The “palakasan” i think only applies to really huge loans,like the behest loans during Macoy’s time. There is no “palakasan” in SME lending. Anyway, the real drivers of the economy are the SMEs.

    We should be thinking of ways on how to increase lending to SMEs and microfinance lending.

  205. Mrivera - March 25, 2007 9:49 pm

    just go on with your crusade and leave others who you always shoot for their PAGTATALAK out of disgust over this fake and abusive administration. do your part and let them do their own, no need to get crowded in just one area. there should be a group or groups in one cause while others indulge themselves where they are needed and can deliver. that is simultaneous discharging of everybody’s energy to cover a vast area responsibility.
    also note that OFW’s are now consolidating forces, engaging themselves in scouting on who to support this coming elections while giving support to distressed kababayans back home. and no one asks for any recognition or to be cited for this deed.

    ONLY those senatorial candidates who can present and give clear platforms beneficial to the most deserving public will receive votes of trust.

  206. anthony scalia - March 25, 2007 9:51 pm

    To Ka Enchong:

    “…the Philippines is not a hopeless case”

    talaga naman! yung ibang bloggers dito lang naman ang nagsasabing hopeless case ang ‘Pinas eh!

    alam ko di kayo kasama doon sa mga nagsasabing hopeless case ang ‘Pinas.

  207. anthony scalia - March 25, 2007 9:58 pm

    to Mrivera:

    noted

  208. we-will-never-learn - March 25, 2007 11:36 pm

    “Believe it or not, the government is already exerting efforts to make SMEs and the poor “self supporting without government help.” to pay for a small business and we end up with a nation of small businessmen. “The government already started teaching them how to walk.”
    Now isn’t that a cute idea by this administration, if they get enough self supporting small businessmen, NGO’s supplying the houses and education of the kids etc they wont need to spend our taxes but put it straight into their pockets.

  209. anthony scalia - March 25, 2007 11:55 pm

    To we-wil-never-learn:

    “to pay for a small business and we end up with a nation of small businessmen”

    99% of all businesses here are SMEs. More than half of the total employees nationwide are employed by SMEs.

    Yes, we have to be a country of small businessmen. As a start. Some of these businesses can grow, some can stay small.

    That’s the same thing with the US. 99% of all businesses are SMEs. You think only the Fortune 500 are the drivers of the US economy?

    “Now isn’t that a cute idea by this administration, if they get enough self supporting small businessmen, NGO’s supplying the houses and education of the kids etc they wont need to spend our taxes but put it straight into their pockets”

    Naku, believe it or not, panahon pa ni Marcos, ginagawa na yan – both the getting of self-supporting businessmen to fill in gaps in housing and education, and the pocketing of taxes.

    Saka isa yan sa obligasyon ng gobyerno – the making and nurturing of an environment conducive for entrepreneurship. Dahil dyan manggagaling ang much-needed jobs. Pero a true entrepreneur will not wait till everything is right before he starts.

  210. n2ziastic - November 28, 2007 10:47 pm

    our president doesn’t know what being a member of a poor family is all about. the only luxuries they have in life is 3 square meals a day!

    who voted for this idiot anyway???

  211. shawn s.pasco - July 28, 2009 7:51 pm

    san po ung mga prang kwento tungkol sa tubig labas sa apoy

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