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Oakwood, four years after

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In the wee hours of July 27, 2003, some 300 soldiers, led by some 70 young officers, wearing red armbands with the Katipunan’s rising sun symbol, commandeered the Oakwood premier hotel at the Makati Commercial Center, wired the surrounding areas and declared withdrawal of support from Gloria Arroyo’s unelected presidency.
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That was a Sunday, the day before Arroyo was to deliver her third State-of-the Nation Address.

The 19-hour siege ended with no blood spilled. Just idealisms and dreams crushed.

A lot of things have happened since that event we now refer to as the “Oakwood mutiny.” Even the name of the hotel has changed. It’s now called “Ascott”.

But the most significant development has been the election of Magdalo spokesman Antonio Trillanes IV as senator in the last election. It was a resounding vindication of the cause they had espoused at great risk for themselves.

A lot of things have also remained the same. Gloria Arroyo is still in Malacañang endlessly spinning lies and treachery.

It is worth recalling today the message of the Magdalo boys four years ago:

They said:

“We are not doing this because we want power or we want to destabilize our country. We are doing this because of the following major crimes of the government against our people:

First, the GMA government, through the AFP leadership and Secretary Angelo Reyes, has been selling bullets and arms from the government arsenal to the MILF, Abu Sayyaf and the NPA. These bullets, which kill our soldiers, actually came from the very
government that we fighting to defend. This is why there is a war for over 30 years now, and still our enemies have not run out of bullets. As evidence, all the bullets that were recovered from the enemy had the markings that they came from the DND arsenal.”

Two weeks ago, 14 Marines equipped with dud mortar shells died, when ambushed by suspected elements of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front in Tipo-Tipo, Basilan. Ten of them were beheaded.

Now, some five thousand of our soldiers are in Basilan to salvage the tattered image of the military leadership.

The Magdalo’s words then reverberate sharply today:

“A number of soldiers have died, and even more are going to die in a war that they do not plan to end. Furthermore, hundreds of thousands of civilians have been caught helpless in the crossfire. They do not want the war to end so that it will continue to be a milking cow of greedy and treacherous officials in the AFP and in the government.”

“We have experienced the true situation of our soldiers. We have shared hardships and sacrifices in the face of an armed conflict, but the support we need against the jaws of death have been pocketed by a few leaders looking out only for their selfish interests.”

One year after the Magdalo officers said this, Gen. Carlos Garcia, the AFP comptroller, and other high-ranking officers were found to have diverted to their personal funds money that should have replaced the worn- out boots of soldiers.

The last we know, the family of Garcia with their stolen millions have left the country. Garcia is supposed to be still facing charges before the court martial and the Ombudsman. He is supposed to be still in detention.

Garcia, who has defrauded Filipino taxpayers of their hear-earned money enjoy better treatment than the Magdalos who denounced, albeit in the most forceful manner, the demoralizing irregularities in the military.

Despite the agreement with her representative, former AFP Chief of Staff Roy Cimatu, that only the five leaders of the group would be tried in court martial (not in a civilian court), Arroyo, not surprisingly, charged and imprisoned even the enlisted men.

In what is actually an act of sacrifice to ease the pressure on the lower-ranking members of the group, the six Magdalo leaders in 2004 apologized for the action they have taken.

The government’s divide-and-rule strategy has succeeded with some of the Magdalo fficers. Army Captains Army Captains Gerardo Gambala, Milo Maestrecampo, Lt. Lawrence San Juan and ten others now sing tunes favorable to the Arroyo government.

Other shifted strategy to be able to continue the fight for truth and justice another day, another place. More than 50 younger officers struck plea bargain. They pleaded guilty for conduct prejudicial to good order and military discipline in exchange for the dropping of other charges namely disrespect toward the President, Vice President, members of Congress and the Secretary of National Defense; disrespect toward a superior officer; AW 67 mutiny or sedition; and conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman. They are expected to be out of prison in January 2008.

Others are holding on: Trillanes, Marine Captains. Nicanor Faeldon and Gary Lejano, LTsg James Layug, Eugene Gonzalez and more.

On the 4th anniversary of “Oakwood mutiny”, Capt. Faeldon issued a statement re-affirming his stand. At the same time he made it clear that he respects the decision of his colleagues to enter into plea bargains. “Their beliefs are their own, as is their right to chart the courses of their own lives,” he said.

Excerpts from his inspiring statement:

”When I went to Oakwood, four years ago, it was clear to me that in order for me to bring the truth to my countrymen, I could stand to lose my life, my career or everything I hold dear.

”Years later, it is to my sorrow that no significant changes have taken place despite our warnings, our concerns and our acts in Oakwood. The system is as corrupt as ever, the military is now more politicized than ever before and the highest executive in the land holds office in spite of the absence of a clear mandate. Even sadder, our soldiers are still needlessly dying out there.

”With these in mind, I refuse to bargain with the dubious authorities who exercise power without conscience and who are responsible for the ills that I felt compelled to report to my countrymen. At any rate, an agreement of this nature would be a tacit ratification or recognition of Presidential powers that lie uneasily in the wrong hands.

”If this refusal to bargain means a prison term or the loss of my life, I am prepared, now, as much as I was four years ago, to pay the price for telling the truth.”

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230 Comments

  1. chi chi

    ”If this refusal to bargain means a prison term or the loss of my life, I am prepared, now, as much as I was four years ago, to pay the price for telling the truth.”

    Capt.Faeldon, you have my respect and admiration. Loss of life is the ultimate sacrifice that a person can offer for one’s beloved country. And because you are willing to pay the price for fighting for what is right, just and true, you earned to be called a modern hero. Mabuhay ka!

  2. chi chi

    Almost 12 million pinoys believed all grievances against the fake president and her military that the Magdalo soldiers publicly aired via Oakwood incident.

    Reading the complaints and the subsequent events that happened confirming the truthfulness of the Magdalo’s grievances, it’s just a matter of time before lameduck Gloria and her cabal of military corrupts will lose all their backings, including Uncle Sam. Nagsisimula na.

  3. chi chi

    …military corrupts lose…

  4. chi chi

    Ellen,

    Who is that other young Magdalo beside Sen. AT4?

    Faces of hopes for our beloved country…shattered by the unelected president’s ambition for eternal power!

  5. I only have the following comments.
    ********
    Let the man serve the people who have voted for him.
    ********
    Gloria’s show of strength at the SONA was a clear cover for her fear,
    ********
    fear of losing her dictatorship role, fear of what will happen after 2010, fear of Trillanes and those who challenge her..
    ********
    I repeat, let Trillanes serve, only the corrupt will fear his unabated hands as a Senator.

  6. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    dahan dahan at mag isip-isip. baka masayang na naman ang pagtitiwala ninyo.

    ito ang sinabi ni ramon tulfo sa inquirer tungkol kay trillanes:

    —————-
    Trillanes was one of the most arrogant of the Magdalo detainees, according to Isafp records handed to me by an inside source.

    On Jan. 1, 2006, Trillanes allegedly berated a guard who was following orders to limit the duration of the visits of lawyers and families of the detainees as the camp was on “blue alert.”

    Navy YNC Mariano Rapanot became a victim of Trillanes’ alleged abusive and arrogant behavior.

    Rapanot wouldn’t allow an Attorney Guevarra and the family of Navy Lieutenant Layug entry into the detainees’ cells as it was past visiting time.

    Trillanes, according to the report, came out of his detention cell and berated Rapanot.

    “P***** i**! Sino ba’ng chief of staff ninyo? Sabihin mo sa kanya na p***** i** niya! Babalikan ko siya!

    ———–ramon tulfo, inquirer 07/05/2007

  7. chi chi

    Ellen,

    At 2.15 a.m. (eastern), “No Regrets” in Inquirer is blank. Na-HSA yata!

    O, totally wala na, pati head!

  8. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Magdalo has good reason why the never ending war in Mindanao is the source of corruption by military top brass. Looking deeper into the Tipo-Tipo fiasco that resulted to the death of 14 Philippine Marines may have something to do with US State Department proposed military aid cut back. They find gold mine in the American military aid. Gloria Arroyo and her military need a valid reason to convince the US Congress not to reduce military aid in lieu on war on terrorism. AFP chief Esperon is insisting that MILF renegades and Abu Sayyaf are responsible for the death of 14 Philippine Marines. Abu Sayyaf has ties with Indonesian militants Jemaah Islammiyah and Al Qaeda.

    I firmly believe that Gloria Arroyo and her corrupt military leadership could not sustain an all-out war against the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) considering government’s limited resources and funds. The US Sate Department has recommended to US Congress a reduction on military aid assistance to the Philippines. It seems that Uncle Sam is dropping Gloria Arroyo regime as strong ally in the global war against terrorism. Uncle Sam is the chief donor of surplus war materiel to the Philippines and some are sold to the rebels. Magdalo accused the corrupt AFP top brass selling bullets and arms from the government arsenal to the MILF, Abu Sayyaf and the NPA.

  9. chi chi

    Ka Diego,

    Natauhan na yata si Bush na niloloko lang siya ni Gloria!

  10. Re: Trillanes was one of the most arrogant of the Magdalo detainees, according to Isafp records handed to me by an inside source.

    On Jan. 1, 2006, Trillanes allegedly berated a guard who was following orders to limit the duration of the visits of lawyers and families of the detainees as the camp was on “blue alert.”

    Navy YNC Mariano Rapanot became a victim of Trillanes’ alleged abusive and arrogant behavior.

    Rapanot wouldn’t allow an Attorney Guevarra and the family of Navy Lieutenant Layug entry into the detainees’ cells as it was past visiting time.

    Trillanes, according to the report, came out of his detention cell and berated Rapanot.

    “P***** i**! Sino ba’ng chief of staff ninyo? Sabihin mo sa kanya na p***** i** niya! Babalikan ko siya!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! I just would love for Trillanes to bark “Tenshun!” real sharp and LOUD to Zubiri when the latter goes kendeng kendeng in front of him so Zubiri pees in his panties!

    Anyway, nothing surprising there! I’d expect no less – what can they do to him JAIL HIM for wanting more time with his visitors? Hahahahah… And why shouldn’t he berate them – sure, tough on the guys he berated but hey, if they are that sensitive or that softie, they’d better quit the job! Hahahaha…

  11. If Mon Tulfo doesn’t approve, TOUGH!

  12. Buti kamo iyan lang, kung ako sa lugar niya, nampucha, di lang mura…

  13. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Hindi kayang bolahin ni Gloria si Condi Rice. Hindi umobra ang kanyang kasungalingan at gimmick.

  14. Emilio_OFW Emilio_OFW

    The AFP is diseased with a big C (Corruption) and the main reason our young and idealistic soldiers four years ago to this day staged their “rebellion” in Oakwood Hotel.

    None has changed except, those officers and men who were not bought by the Blinky Tiyanak & her generals are still suffering in the brig.

    And the architect of this big C is being rotated from one government office to another. What a shame! Although the word does not mean anything to him.

  15. Next election, I suggest the rest of the Magdalo guys run for a party list to complete the circle – that will be the best way to slap any future govt that will pardon Gloria and to bring it down with LOUD THUD!!

  16. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    artsee,
    ang payo ko lang naman ay mag isip-isip. huwag magpadala sa silakbo ng galit. dapat tingnan lahat ng anggulo. sabi nga, ‘don’t judge a book by its cover’. dapat basahin at intindihin. baka maloko ulit katulad ng nangyari noon huling eleksyon.

    maraming sasakyan kamo sina tulfo?

    ito pa ang isyu tungkol kay trillanes, totoo man o hindi, dapat malaman:
    ———————–
    But what makes Trillanes a worse case is the sheer hypocrisy of his pronouncements that seemed to have clinched the good impression voters had of him. The anti-corruption demigod that he now is was a lieutenant senior grade in the Philippine Navy whose monthly pay was less than P20,000, but who had the luxury of a Mitsubishi Pajero, a Nissan Terrano, five Mitsubishi Delicas and a Kawasaki motorcycle.

  17. chi chi

    Ka Diego,

    Mali ako, heheh! Si Condi nga pala ang hindi mabobola ni Gloria, not Bush.

  18. Re “Mitsubishi Pajero, a Nissan Terrano, five Mitsubishi Delicas and a Kawasaki motorcycle.”

    Shit! Poor fella! What a poor collection. My baby boy has a vast collection that he doesn’t like anymore. One of his favorite which happens to be mine too, is a very nice Citroen 1949 model that I can add to his collection if he wants … But he’s got to repair the remote control thinggy, my son banged it on the floor when he was 5.

    I see he likes motorcycles tooo – I have a Harley davidson but this one is stationary and serves as a desk phone too!

    Voila!

    So all in all

  19. chi chi

    Kaya pala takot to death si Gloria ay ganyan katapang si Trillanes!

    Humanda si Brenda at Dick at lahat ng maiingay at pakendeng-kendeng sa Senado… nandiyan na ang matapang na si Sen. Trillanes!

    Si Tulfo, mag-aaply na lang siyang official shooter ni Mike Pidal na siyang bumubuhay sa kanya!

  20. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    yun lang naman ang punto ko. ang pera at kapangyarihan ay malakas ang hatak. kahit sa amerika, nangyayari yan. totoo man o hindi ang mga bintang kay trillanes, politiko na siya kaya babatuhin na siya madalas.

  21. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Senator Antonio Trillanes should dig deeper into sinister Oplan Greenbase. This has something to do with continuous war in Mindanao for profit. Hello Angie Reyes! Where’s former ISAFP chief Col.Victor Corpus now?

    ‘THIRD FORCE’ SUSPECTED BEHIND ‘OPLAN GREENBASE’ DOCUMENT. A “third force” made up of individuals and groups opposed to a peace settlement with Muslim rebels may be behind a document purportedly outlining a secret plan by the Arroyo administration to impose martial law, a top military official told an inquiry yesterday.
    Testifying before the Feliciano Commission, Lt. Gen. Rodolfo Garcia, the military’s vice chief of staff, said, however, he does not know the identities of these “people who may have another agenda as opposed” to the upcoming peace talks between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF). He said Cotabato City Archbishop Orlando Quevedo had once warned about a “group of desperate people” out to torpedo the peace talks. Quevedo was not immediately available for comment. One of these individuals “could be a politician who is anti-Muslim, who sees that peace does not work for him, whose biases against Muslims are very strong,” Garcia said.
    Source: Philippine Star, 20 August 2003

  22. chi chi

    Ganyan pala katapang si Trillanes, buti na lang at binoto ko!

  23. chi chi

    Naniniwala ako na kaya Gloria and Ass-peron move earth and hell barring Sen. Trillanes from assuming his seat is because they’re too scared that Oplan Greenbase will be open to public scrutiny.

    Kung may itinatago nga naman, talagang hindi baleng mawasak ng tuluyan ang bansa mailigtas lamang ang mga sarili.

  24. chi chi

    Re “Mitsubishi Pajero, a Nissan Terrano, five Mitsubishi Delicas and a Kawasaki motorcycle.”

    Anna,

    Add-up the costs of these cars, mas mahal pa ang isang kotse mo! heheh!

    Mitsubishi Pajero? Hahah! I’m driving AudiQ7!
    Nissan Terrano? Hahah! My hubby drives BMW M5!

    Ito lang bang mga mumurahing kotse ni Trillanes ang isa sa mga baduy na isyus tungkol sa kanya! Susmaryosep, grow up!

  25. Heheh! Chi, not only that! Trillanes’s collection is probably on paper only, the real macoy are toys! HAHAHAHAHAH!

    Mon Tulfo has a way of shitting people with crap he calls reporting! Don’t trust a journalist who’s been on the take, particularly on the Piggy Arroyo take!

  26. chi chi

    Anna,

    Kaya hindi umunlad ang Pinas kasi ang gustong makita ng ibang pinoy ay butas ng karayom at iniiwasang makita ‘yong grandeng butas ng impierno.

  27. chi chi

    Yeah, Anna.

    Buti sana kung ang mga nagbibintang na ito ay merong documents re Trillanes car. Ang meron lang public document na nabasa ko ay ang bentahan ng kanyang lumang Nissan Terrano na napag-usapan namin ni Tongue nuon.

    Ang dami-daming bubutingtingin na nakaw na ari-arian at $$$$ ng mga Pidal Arroyo sa Pinas , overseas at impierno, pero ang mga pinipiling silipin ay iyong mga kotseng mumurahin. Kakainis talaga!

  28. Chi, the guy beside Trillanes is Capt. Gambala. He is the one who has been expelled by the Magdalo.

  29. chi chi

    Thanks very much, Ellen.

  30. GinaCole GinaCole

    That’s the only thing they can dig against Trillanes?
    My goodness, here in the States, my high school son is already driving a brand new car. My hubby drives a BMW and a Hummer! We watch TFC in our 65 inch plasma! Oh, these people! These days anybody can buy a Pajero!

  31. chi chi

    # AdeBrux Says:

    July 27th, 2007 at 2:55 am

    Next election, I suggest the rest of the Magdalo guys run for a party list to complete the circle – that will be the best way to slap any future govt that will pardon Gloria and to bring it down with LOUD THUD!!

    Anna,

    This suggestion is most sensible, mahihirapan si Gloria na umiskapo.

  32. sparks sparks

    One of the posters here misunderstood what I wrote on my blog. I never said the Marines killed their own. This is what I wrote: “I do wonder at the perfect timing of the soldier beheadings. It makes you wonder if the government staged the whole thing…”

  33. we-will-never-learn we-will-never-learn

    I have a tremendous respect for the the likes of these officers and men holding on: Trillanes, Marine Captains. Nicanor Faeldon and Gary Lejano, LTsg James Layug, Eugene Gonzalez and more. But I’m afraid thats where my respect for the AFP & PNP ends.
    Until they take their professions seriously and copy the various professional first world class armies instead of copying characters from their favourite movies such as Dirty Harry – these two institutions will always remain a third class item therefore will always keep this country third world class no matter what Schizoglow preaches that we are on our way to becoming a first world class country.
    It’s no good them denying that DND bullets and arms are being sold by the AFP to the MILF and NPA rebels that has a result of destroying the lives of the soldiers of the AFP these Generals are absolute scum and shouldn’t be tolerated by any sound thinking soldier of the AFP.

    It’s the same old song they are singing, coast to coast!

  34. we-will-never-learn we-will-never-learn

    sparks:
    Your comment makes sense to me, I’ve had the same thoughts mayself and I don’t feel good about it.
    I keep asking would it be possible – can’t convince myself that it’s imposible with this evil corrupt administration. This is how they feared the German SS in WW2, the German people at that time denied themselves the truth and look what happened they slaughtered millions of their own German citizens given time. Even collecting gold teeth from their victims with their military making a business out of it. When it was too late and when they were stopped by outside forces the question being asked by the German people was why did we allow this to happen. Like the three monkeys, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil thats how they allowed it to happen. They still feel the shame today. That’s why I respect the stand of these guys are taking for Truth & Justice.

  35. Sounds familiar yung mga comments nung isa diyan. Parang yung mga arguments sa isang post ko about the military. Gigil na gigil kay Trillanes. I have mentioned this to Ellen and Arbet is very familiar with this topic.

    Sonn this guy will present the investigations in the senate and he will once again comment about Trillanes. Wala na bang ibang issues? The vehicles mentioned can be bought in Subic dirt cheap. FYI, a Pajero there can be had for a little over 50thou while a Delica can go as low as 30. As for the motorcycle, parang scooter lang ang presyo niyan dun.

    I’m sure the next issue would be the land-grabbing kuno. Its a revived case which was dismissed a long time ago as Trillanes was a buyer in good faith. Now if anyone can prove that Trillanes stole millions like Garcia and has a mansion that can be seen from the 16th, 17th and 18th holes of the Navy golf course, please lang, ilabas niyo na. Kung wala, hingi na lang kayo ng balato kay Mon Tulfo. I’m sure his “salary” as a journalist(?) can more than suffice for his lifestyle.

  36. we-will-never-learn we-will-never-learn

    Re: Sony Trillanes being “arrogant behavior” I can tell you right now that if I had been “banged up” in detention for telling the truth about the AFP corrupt practices since 2003 – I would be Bloody Arrogant also.
    If they don’t like the truth to be told warts and all, then I guess they have a shock waiting for them in the Senate soon. You can’t keep a brave good man down when he knows he tells the truth, that’s their biggest nightmare!

  37. Schumey,

    Re: The vehicles mentioned can be bought in Subic dirt cheap. FYI, a Pajero there can be had for a little over 50thou while a Delica can go as low as 30. As for the motorcycle, parang scooter lang ang presyo niyan dun.

    Is that right? Is that all? Geez!

    So, it means that if for the sake of argument, we believe Tulfo’s “journalistic” reporting that Trillanes owned those vehicles ““Mitsubishi Pajero, a Nissan Terrano, five Mitsubishi Delicas and a Kawasaki motorcycle.”, the total wouldn’t even reach 4,000 US dollars!!!!! Wow, and Tulfo begrudges that amount?

    If that is Tulfo’s gauge of “wealth”, geez, then nobody is poor in the Philippines – NOBODY BUT NOBODY CAN BE POOR, the country is 1ST WORLD COUNTRY! Wow!

    (Btw, his mom had a transport business didn’t she, so maybe when “journalist” Tulfo saw the name Trilanes on the ownership records and that’s it – he said, “Aha, gotcha!? Now, my boss will be happy, all I got to add is Antonio to the family name and I’m RICH, RICH as cressus….”)

    Anyway, if the news are coming from Tulfo, I wouldn’t bet a dollar on his reports – not when this journalist fattened himself up through the largesse of his clients who pay him to DISTORT FACTS.

    This Tulfo fellow ain’t a journalist, he is a PROFESSIONAL HUSTLER! Anybody who believes him ought to think again or have his head examined illico!

  38. Tulfo and Belinda Cunanan are both PROFESSIONAL HUSTLERS!

  39. chi chi

    Arogante? Si Tulfo kaya at critics ni Trillanes ang mabilanggo ng halos apat na taon. Baka hindi lang sila maging arogante!

  40. Tulfo should be the one questioned. At a jounalist’s pay, I wonder how he can afford a Hummer. The base price of here is 9.8million, that’s stripped of all options. And that and it may reach 11-12million.

    The vehicles Trillanes have are old models brought from Japan. They are converted right-hand drive vehicles. I should know as a very close friend refurbishes these vehicles and then resells them.

  41. It should read: “Add the options and it may…”

  42. GinaCole GinaCole

    I agree. Tulfo is a paid hack.

  43. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Bakit kaya binabatan ni Tulfo si Sen. Trillanes? Lumang issue na iyan ‘Trillanes car collection’. Ano ba ang racket ni Ramon Tulfo? Malaki yata ang kini-kita ng mga journalist katulad ni Kabayad Noli De Castro.

  44. cocoy cocoy

    Four years living in a cold concrete cement with poor ventilation is degrading and inhuman. These soldiers are not felon, they are a hero. They are a soldiers fully understand what has gone wrong in the military. They did it for the highest motives in the noblest of cause. It was what they’ve seen in a foolhardy act. They defied the electoral cheating and selling of arms to the enemies of the states, whom they are chasing in the jungle of Mindanao, knowing full well what the consequences would be if they failed in achieving reforms in the military where they belong.

    The Filipino civil society must ask themselves, Are these soldiers a traitor to the constitution, or a traitor to the despotic regime? When it come to holding cheat political elite accountable for their action, we’ve got to decide once and for all, are we a country of laws, or are we a lawless country? If we accept the latter, democracy dies, and if we let the chief cheater prevail, our country is in deep danger in many ways, Nobody will not hold Pandakikay accountable on her cheating and corruption in the military, so these Magdalo tried to hold her accountable for her crimes, For that they deserve a hand salute and a middle finger pointed at Esperon.

  45. cocoy cocoy

    # cocoy Says:

    July 6th, 2007 at 9:30 am

    Jojo;
    Tulfo’s ego is more taller than the Empire State Building, while in fact, Dagul’s IQ is greater than him. He is notorious in gaining notoriety, he always appear if there is a good opportunity. An assassin for hire and his lip service goes to a higher bidder. In the land of Gloria’s democracy, the reign are those who has money. If people bow on their needs they must answer for their deeds.

    this was my previous comment about Tulfo and my stand about this guy remain the same.

  46. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Yehey, finally nakapasok na ako! Tatlong araw akong absent dahil naharang nung guard yung ID ko.

    ————-

    DinaPinoy,

    Luma na iyang post mo. Nadiscuss ko na rito tungkol sa mga sasakyan na iyan tatlong beses na yata. Ang kotse lang ni Trillanes diyan yung kulay green na Terrano na pinanghihinayangan ko at ni chi dahil iba ang nakabili. Bentang palugi kasi dahil kailangan niya ang pondo sa kampanya.

    Hindi nagmo-motor si AT4, kahit ipahanap mo sa LTO, walang lisensiya si AT4 na pwede siyang mag-operate ng two-wheeled vehicle. Itext mo kay Tulfo iyan. Marami siyang kabig sa LTO, madali lang malaman iyan.

    Yung Delica, ilang taon nang napatunayan na second-hand lef-hand-drive converted Japanese imports iyan para sa rental business ng nanay ni Trillanes. Hindi ko alam kung bakit hindi ninyo nabasa ni Tulfo iyon.
    Hindi lang si Sonny ang anak ni Mrs. Trillanes. Si Tiny (Antonio Trillanes III), isang engineer (o arkitekto?) ay mataas ang posisyon sa kumpanya noong makilala ko iyan nung ginagawa pa ang Rockwell Complex. Hindi ko kilala yung iba. Kaya kung sasabihing naimpluwensiyahan ni AT4 yung pag-apruba ng loan, maraming pwedeng mag-guarantee o maging co-maker ang nanay niya, hindi lang si Sonny.

    Isa pa, hindi kailanman nagkaroon ng Pajero si AT4, at kahit pa nagkaroon man, hindi na sukatan ang Pajero ngayon para sabihing makwarta ang isang tao. Sabi nga ni Schumey, barya-barya na lang. Kung Porsche Cayenne, siguro pa. Sa susunod na SONA, payo ko, pumunta ka sa Batasan Parking lot para makita mo ang kotse ng mga kongresista at senador. Daig ang showroom ng Prestige Cars ni Tony Aquino. Ang mga representante ng mga pinakamahihirap na distrito ay naka-Expedition, Navigator, SLR, XK8. Yung maykaya naka-stretch limousine. Pero di ko malaman kung maaawa ako o hahanga dun sa isang partylist Cong. na kasama sa Batasan 5 (si Mariano ba yun?), naka Revo lang, basic unit pa.

    Pwede mo ring ipakumpirma kay Tulfo lahat iyan sa LTO.

    Ang hindi masagot-sagot ni Tulfo hanggang ngayon ay kung bakit tumatanggap siya ng P10,000 monthly mula sa PNP samantalang hindi naman siya empleyado o consultant doon. Nung ipinagbawal ni Lacson nang maupo siyang Hepe ng PNP, walang humpay na banat ang inabot ni Lacson mula kay Tulfo.

    Malayo si Tulfo kay Ellen, na isang tunay na ournalist.

    Si Tulfo ay isang envelopmental journalist at kahit nakaaliw basahin, hindi mo dapat siniseryoso. Pangshowbiz ang dating!

  47. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    tongue,
    sori, matagal din akong absent. pinalipas ko muna ang eleksyon. o, ano di ba tama ako na magbabaliktaran pagkatapos ng eleksyon?

  48. Hoy DinaPinoy,

    Ang issue dito ay OAKWOOD! Don’t take the discussion away from the issue…

    If ever, I would like to know why you should believe everything Mon Tulfo says about Trillanes and his fellow prisoners more than you should believe Ellen Tordesillas?

  49. Dapat din nating tanungin si Mickey Mouse kung bakit lumobo ng milyon-milyon ang SAL niya na maging kongresista. Puro flop naman ang pelikula niyan.

    Tama si Tongue, pang showbiz yang si Tulfo. To the highest bidder, ika nga.

  50. Tongue,

    Agree! “Malayo si Tulfo kay Ellen, na isang tunay na journalist.”

    Distance is heaven and earth as in the former is a professional hustler while the latter is a professional journalist!

  51. Nite folks! See y’all soon!

  52. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    anna,
    ang punto ko ay para mag isip-isip ang mga nagbabasa dito. hindi ko sinasabing naniniwala ako kay mon tulfo dahil halos wala na akong pinaniniwalaan sa pilipinas.

  53. chi chi

    Sa uulitin, iyong mga gustong sumira kay Trillanes ay siguraduhin lang na ang kanilang source ay hindi paid hack!

    Cocoy,

    “Tulfo’s ego is more taller than the Empire State Building,..”

    May I add, and his pocket is getting deeper everytime Mike Pidal insert a coin in the jukebox.

    Kanina pa kita hinahanap dahil sa baliktatan dito!

  54. chi chi

    Schumey,

    What’s the size of Tulfo’s Hummer, military size, medium,small?

    Military size is $100K pataas, fully loaded!
    Medium…about $60K, fully loaded!
    Smallest..$30K+, fully loaded!

    Kahit na meron s’yang illegal na P10,000 monthly from PNP, kahit ga-daliring Hummer ay hindi s’ya makakabili kung patas lang siyang sumweldo at magtrabaho!

  55. cocoy cocoy

    DinaPinoy;
    Huwag kang mawalan ng pag-asa kaibigan,mayroon pa namang sigurong matitino na natira pa,na handang lumaban at ipagtangol ang Democrasia kung tawagin sila ng tadhana at makibaka.iyon nga lang ang mga baril nila ay de-bomba at isang putok isang karga,kasi ipinagbili na ng mga bataan ni Esperon ang malalakas na armas kay Karim Abdulla at kay Kumander Kotong.Buhay pa naman sina Guingona at Salonga na tinitingala ng masa.May malasakit sila sa karaingan ng mga naaping mga kababayan natin,Isama mo na rin sa iyong lista ang pangalan ni Trillanes,Lacson,Pimentel at Legarda. Iyong ibang mahilig kumain ng balimbing ay burahin mo na.Isama mo na rin tayong lahat dito sa EllenVille.
    Artchi;
    Pinabilib mo ako,hindi ka katulad ni Lawrence San Juan na nagtsutsu sa ipinaglalaban ng kanyang mga kasamahan,tapos sinundan pa ni Gambala,ang katulad nila ay ampaw na pandesal na kulang ang timbang na kapag isinawsaw sa mainit na kape ay nalusaw.

  56. cocoy cocoy

    Chi;
    I have a dental appointment kaya ngayon lang ako.

  57. chi chi

    DinaPinoy,

    “ang punto ko ay para mag isip-isip ang mga nagbabasa dito.”

    Ibig mong sabihin ay hindi kami gumagamit ng utak?!

    Hindi mo na kami dapat paalalahanan na mag-isip, matagal na kaming nag-isip ng lahat ng nangyayari sa Pinas kaya nga tinatadyakan namin si Gloria e!

  58. chi chi

    Cocoy,

    Sumasakit nga ang ngipin ko kaya sino mang hahara-hara diyan na basta nagbibintang ng kung anu-ano kay Trillanes ng walang basehan at documents ay tutuldukan ko!

  59. cocoy cocoy

    Chi;
    Ang puso mo,easy ka lang.Pag naatake de corazon ka malulungkot kami ni Artchi.Mahal ka niyan simula pa.Kita mo dahil idol ka niya ikinabit niya ang pangalan mo sa kanya,iyon nga lang nasa hulihan ka.Alam ko since the begining Trillanes na tayong dalawa.Sige ka pag may nagyari sa iyo iyang kinakapatid mo na si Artchi baka makulong na naman dahil ipaghihiganti ka niyang,ganyan iyan kung magmahal.Nagpa-cleaning every six months,kasi pag mabulok at bubunutin ay bungal na.Importante ang ngipin pag nawala permanent na.

  60. cocoy cocoy

    You are, however, in good company, Migz. Your president, Gloria Arroyo, wasn’t elected either. You are the senator from Maguindanao. She is the president of Cebu.

    Artchi;
    Truly talaga at wala ng iba.Mahirap salungatin itong sinulat ni Rudy Romero.Sama ako ng sampu sa kanya.

  61. chi chi

    OK, kayo na ang bahala muna and I have to see my dentist.

    ***

    Para sa mga Magdalo na nakikibaka para sa kalayaan ng Pilipinas sa loob ng kulungan ni Gloria at Ass-peron, at kahit na yaong mga pumili ng kanya-kanyang sariling daan sa anumang kadahilanan…Mabuhay kayong lahat!

  62. nelbar nelbar

    4 na taon at 4 na buwan matapos mabuwag ang Batasan Pambansa noong March 1986.Ginimbal ang buong bansa ng isang malakas na lindol sa Luson.

    Ito ang nagpasimula sa pagbabago ng tono ng mga propagandista ni Cory na maghinay-hinay na dahil ang damdamin na nakararaming taumbayan ay nananatili parin sa FM nostalgia.

    Lack of vision, hatred at vindictiveness ang isa sa mga dahilan kung bakit hindi naisakatuparan ang tunay na diwa ng EDSA.

    Galit tayo sa pangungurakot noon ni Marcos, pero maglalagay pala tayo ng mga panibagong mag-aabuso at manggagahasa ng ating likas na yaman at kabang yaman.

    TAYO MISMO ANG GUMAGAWA NG PAGKAIN NA IPINAPAKAIN NATIN SA HALIMAW NA KUMAKAIN SA ATIN.

     
    Kahit na matapos si GLORIA MACAPAGAL ARROYO, TULOY ANG REPORMA!

    at hindi panay PORMA lamang!

     

    “ang halimaw ay manghihina kung ito’y gugutumin …mamamatay kung hindi pakakainin”

     

  63. TurningPoint TurningPoint

    Going back to the topic.

    I recall that after a Sunday mass on July 26, 2003 (it’s 12 hours advance in the Philippines), we were having a lunch-meeting with some compatriots in Quebec when a Filipino nun among the group went around telling us that in a few hours, there will be a coup in Manila. Nobody seemed to believe it but then, she show us a manifesto emailed to her from Manila. While those in Metro Manila were past asleep at that time, we’re surprise that the event was known in advance in Canada and perhaps the same thing in other countries. In retrospect, it could mean one thing. That the US with its vast intelligence network knew it also in advance but just playing coy waiting for further development.

  64. artchi artchi

    Tutoong kung minsan ay ang mga ibang bansa pa ang naunang nakakaalam sa mangyayari sa Pilipinas. Hindi lang naman sa Pilipinas. Dala iyan ng malawakang intelligence sharing. Magaling dito ang CIA palibhasa marami silang asset o mga operatives sa Pilipinas. Alam niyo ba na maraming mga opisyales sa gobyerno at militar ay informer or ahente ng CIA? May bayad pa. Balita ngang pati ang dating Pangulong Magsaysay at si Ninoy ay mga asset ng CIA. Di ba si Noriega ng Panama ganoon din? Mga lider na ng mga bansa iyan. May kutob din ako na ang RAM noon na hawak ni Gringo ay pakawala din ng CIA para maipit ang pamahalaan tulad ni Cory. Di kaila sa inyo na malaki ang papel ng CIA sa 1986 Edsa Revolt.

    Cokecoy, malapit lang naman ang San Mateo, Rizal sa Fort Bonifacio. Kung sa San Mateo, California kailangan pa nilang lumipad.

  65. Bakit Chi, anong akala noong isang Internet Brigader ni Poohtah dito na kulay brown ang balat nagpapanggap pang ibang lahi. Pwe! Akala mo siya lang ang mga may isip. Yup, isip bata! Pwe!

    One thing I hate about this discriminated Filipinos in the USA is that they pour out their frustrations about their situation on their fellow Filipinos at home and overseas to make up for what they lack and cannot have achieved even in terms of honor and respect by Americans who cannot tolerate people of other races even when they or their own ancestors were foreign immigrants likewise to the USA.

    Chi, I did not get your phone. I misplaced the one I got in December. Please email your phone so I can give you a call when I’m free. Luis, will call you Saturday. OK?

  66. Love this Faeldon guy. Iyan ang sundalo! Taragis, dahil kay Gloria Poohtah, ang labas ng mga sundalong pilipino, sundalong kanin labas ang tumbong, pero ang mga ulo puedeng pugutin.

    Hanip din ano?

  67. cocoy cocoy

    Sparks:
    The U.S. has a big interest in the Philippines. When it comes to intelligence,CIA is not only operating in The Philippines but to every countries in the world where U,S has mutual agreements. The Philippines was an American colony from 1898 to 1946; the two countries have a long-standing mutual defense treaty; and the Philippines receives tens of millions of dollars in U.S. aid annually as well as substantial private investment. The Philippines also offered to share intelligence and opened its airspace to U.S. aircraft in return.

    The U,S, send American advisers to train Philippine soldiers fighting the Abu Sayyaf Group, a radical Islamist organization that the U.S. government says has ties to al-Qaeda. Abu Sayyaf is thought to have several hundred members and is listed by the White House as a terrorist organization. The Bush administration proposed sending U.S. combat troops to the Philippines in but downgraded their assignment to training and intelligence work, in the face of widespread opposition from a Philippine public still sensitive about any hints of U.S. colonialism.

    U.S. has one major strategic concern in the Philippines since the beginning but,because there are some opposition sentiments in public society the lease extension never prosper and the whole U.S. Military contingent abandoned the place: its naval and air bases at Subic Bay and Clark Airfield. In June 1983, just a month before Aquino was murdered at Manila’s international airport, The U,S, had negotiated a renewal of the lease on the two military bases. Because the U.S. was completely identified with the Marcos regime, the Aquino assassination jeopardized the entire American stake in the Philippines.

    In CIA concern, it may sometimes seem that the role of the U.S,it has become superfluous to U.S. diplomacy. Policy is ostensibly . The U,S, merely executes policy. This is the conventional wisdom. It is not always so. Indeed, when a crisis occurs, U,S, doesn’t know enough about local circumstances to adopt intelligent policies. U,S, inevitably prefers the status quo to the unknown. It is when momentous events, CIA intelligence was a hidden secret policies.

  68. Mrivera Mrivera

    dinapinoy,

    ganu’n pa rin ‘yon. tulad ng sabi ni tongue, LUMA, GASGAS, PASSE at BULOK na ‘yung isyung sasakyang patungpatong ni AT4.

    binasa at pinag-isipan mo ‘yung sinulat ni mon tulfo pero hindi mo inisip kung sino o kaninong interes ang pinaglilingkuran ni tulfo?

    pulitika, kaibigan, PULITIKA. ‘yan ang dahilan kaya pinipilit nilang sirain ang kredibilidad ni trillanes. ginawa na nila ang lahat upang gibain ang ipinaglalaban ng magdalo. pinangakuan ng langit ang mga bumaliktad na noong una ay buong katapangang ipinamukha kina espweron ang kanilang katiwalian subalit hindi nagtagal ay biglang kumanta nang paatras.

    remember san juan?

  69. Magno: binasa at pinag-isipan mo ‘yung sinulat ni mon tulfo pero hindi mo inisip kung sino o kaninong interes ang pinaglilingkuran ni tulfo?

    ******
    Said from the heart! Iyan ang tunay na pinoy di tulad noong ayaw nang maging pinoy!

  70. Mrivera Mrivera

    isipin mo rin, pati na ang isinampang kaso kina mgen miranda, bgen lim at mga kasama, ilang taon na? bakit hindi nila masintensiyahan?

    mas nauna itong oakwood incident, nakakulong na ang sinasabi nilang pasimuno, bakit hanggang ngayon wala pa rin silang hatol?

    hindi ba’t dahil sa ang PROBLEMA ay silang mga nasa poder na ang gawain ay umaalingasaw sa bantot?

    wala silang maihatol dahil ang kasong kanilang ipinapataw ay sila ang dahilan.

  71. Mrivera Mrivera

    noong una, si capt faeldon lamang ang inaasahan kong susuwag nang husto sa mga nagtitigastigasan sa malakanyang. wala pa akong interes at hindi ko pa gaanong napagtutuunan ng pansin itong si AT4. bilib din ako noon kay san juan, pero nalaglag ako sa upuna noong biglang bumaliktad pagbalik sa kulungan matapos mahuli mula sa pagtakas.

    tuloy pa rin ang laban ni capt faeldon samantalang sina san juan at mga naghudas na kasama ay parang mga pinaamong daga na kung saan painan ay doon pupunta. nakakaawang mga opisyal. mga bata pa, subalit ipinagpalit ang dangal sa pita ng katiwaliang minsan nilang sinalunga.

    paano na sila kapag wala na ang mayordoma sa palasyong pantasya?

  72. Mrivera Mrivera

    “…..pero nalaglag ako sa UPUAN noong biglang bumaliktad pagbalik sa kulungan matapos mahuli mula sa pagtakas.”

  73. Mahirap ang ganyang mga sundalo sa totoo lang, Magno. Anong klaseng mga sundalo ang tini-train nila Esperon? Mga duwag? This reminds me of the interviews done by a TV network for a special on Philippine soldiers in WWII. Wala kang narinig na sumuko sa Hapon. Pinandigan ang mga tungkulin sa bayan. Ngayon, isang unanong daga, kinatakutan? Yuck!

    Kaya dapat lang hangaan ang mga katulad ni Senator Trillanes at Capt. Faeldon at iyong mga hindi tumitinag sa kinaroroonan nila kahit na sila pahirapan. Iyan ang mga tunay na sundalo–hindi sumusuko, yumuyuko sa mga kriminal!

  74. BTW, Ellen, balita ng mga pilipino dito sa SFO, pinalaya na binulgar na nila na nasa kamay ng mga opisyal ng corrupt government of the Philippines si Jayjay? Is that true? Teka nga, mabasa ang balita sa Malaya, Tribune, etc.

  75. Yuko,

    No Jonas Burgos was presented to the court today. Only AFP lawyers attended the hearing.

  76. viruspaulitulit viruspaulitulit

    as if your idol trillanes can solve all the corruptions in the Philippines naman 🙂

    as if siya lang ang magaling na sundalo hrrrrrrrr

    as if siya lang ang magaling na may alam ng corruption sa afp hrrrrrrrrr

    as if naman ang mga kapwa niya na sila biazon and ping ay hindi mga corrupt na mga sundalo hrrrrrrrrrrrr

    and look at the end of the 1st paragraph of this post of ellen….it says GLORIA ARROYO’S unelected presidency…..e sino naman kaya ang nagsasabi na elected si Gloria that time, e inilukluk lang naman siya ng mga tangang evil society to replace erap, e hindi pa naman nakakapandaya si gloria that time hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr….ngek, ngek, ngek…..

  77. Chi,

    Its the big one with bulletproofing to boot. Its a very rare car model here and only celebs and enthusiasts buy it.

  78. nelbar nelbar

    schumey & chi:

    makisali na sa usapan nyo.

    nuong hindi pa uso ang hummer, si rey cabauatan ang unang nagpa-hip ng APC.

  79. nelbar nelbar

     

    From mutineers to demolition experts –—The Philippine Star

    Friday, July 27, 2007

     

    These Filipinos are paid between $1,800 and $4,000 a month to extricate World War II vintage bombs from the bottom of Fukuoka Bay in Japan.

    Numbering 15, the demolition experts are former Philippine Navy commandos, who resigned from the service after a military court convicted them in 2005 for their part in a failed military uprising four years ago.

    In Iraq and Afghanistan, former members of the Navy’s Sea-Air-Land (SEALS) and Special Warfare Group (SWAG) can also be found working as security consultants for companies doing business in these war-torn countries.

    However, many of these 180 rebel soldiers, who took part in the takeover of the Oakwood apartment building in Makati, have also been deployed in cosmopolitan places like Dubai in the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait.

    The STAR came face to face with these Magdalo soldiers, who provided the military muscle in the Oakwood mutiny, during a reunion of sorts somewhere in Quezon City after the May 14 elections.

    In between bottles of beer, the former soldiers, who were back on holiday, said they voluntarily went to Oakwood because, like their superior officers, they wanted to rid the military of widespread corruption.

    “Grabe na ang corruption sa military,” one of the former soldiers said. “Kung hindi kami, sino? Kung hindi sa Oakwood, saan?”

    They never regretted what they had done and they urged their critics not to pass judgment on them, the former soldiers said.

    These former soldiers decided to leave the service in 2005 after they were meted penalties ranging from salary cuts to demotions.

    The Magdalo soldiers working in Dubai and Kuwait were former Marines, while those in Japan, Iraq and Afghanistan belonged to the Navy’s SEALS and SWAG.

    The former rebel soldiers said they face the specter of war in a foreign land so they can earn dollars to send to their families here.

    “Ang dami pang bomba sa ilalim,” said an ex-Navy SWAG working in Fukuoka Bay. “Some are even chemical bombs.”

    On the other hand, his buddies from Iraq were secretive about their jobs and how they were able to gain employment despite the government ban.

    However, the pay and benefits are far better and “it’s worth taking the risks,” they added.

    A former Navyman working in Fukuoka Bay said they are able to recover bombs on the seabed an hour each day, Monday to Friday.

    Saturday and Sunday are their days off, he added.

    He said the company that hired them shouldered all their day-to-day expenses, including free board and lodging, and free vacation to Japan for their families.

    Of the 22 Navy SEALS who went to Oakwood, 15 are now diving for bombs in Fukuoka Bay.

    “October 2005 pa kami dito,” another former Navy SEAL now in Fukuoka, texted The STAR yesterday. Of their Navy SEALS group, only seven have not gone abroad.

     

    12 officers plead guilty

    Twelve military officers, who allegedly led the Oakwood mutiny, pleaded guilty to charges of violation of the Articles of War before the general court-martial yesterday.

    They are Army Captains Milo Maestrecampo, Albert Baloloy, Gerardo Gambala, Elvin Ebreo, Lawrence Luis Somera, and John Andres; First Lieutenants Rex Bolo, Von Rio Tayag, Audie Tocloy, Cleo Donga-as, Florentino Somera and Christopher Brian Yasay.

    They face dishonorable discharge from the service, which is the maximum penalty for violating AW 96 (Conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman).

    The 12 officers are among the 29 that were charged for violating AW 96 for the foiled power grab last July 27, 2003.

    On the other hand, First Lieutenants Sonny Sarmiento, Nathaniel Rabonza, Billy Pascua, Francisco Ashley Acedillo and Francisco Alejano; Captains Segundino Orpiano, Gary Alejano; and Lieutenants senior grade Manuel Cabochan, Eugene Gonzales, Alvin Torato, Arturo Pascua, and Ensign Armand Pontejos announced their plan to file a special plea before the military court.

     
    http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20070726199

     
    * * * * * * *

     
    kapansin pansin, wala ang pangalan ni Lawrence San Juan?

  80. Re: DinaPinoy Says:
    July 27th, 2007 at 7:30 am

    anna,
    ang punto ko ay para mag isip-isip ang mga nagbabasa dito. hindi ko sinasabing naniniwala ako kay mon tulfo dahil halos wala na akong pinaniniwalaan sa pilipinas.

    DinaPinoy,

    You are inferring that readers and posters in Ellen’s blog don’t think! I am gobsmacked that you should insult our intelligence and by extension, Ellen’s!

    How dare you even suggest that people here do not think?

    Who do you think you are that you can shove Mon Tulfo’s thrash down our throats here as referrence for truth?

    If you are saying that don’t know what or who to believe anymore in Pinas, then by gum, you’ve already contradicted yourself by cutting and pasting Mon Tulfo’s thrash in this very thread.

    There’s one truth: Trillanes was elected by almost 11 million Filipinos. You may spit on those 11 million voters for having cast their votes on a mutineer but the bottom line is his election to the Senate are referendum votes, those Filipinos are in effect, saying i.e., “Yes, we want Trillanes to represent us, we want Trillanes to go ahead and fight this government of evil, and yes, if he can do it, we want him to topple this government, and lastly, we believe he may have have erred tactically in choosing Oakwood to stage his mutiny (instead of directly in Malacanang), but heck we believe he can do better next time…!”

    So, stop the nonsense DinaPinoy. Re-calibrate your own thoughts if you want to parley!

  81. Re: “Kung hindi kami, sino? Kung hindi sa Oakwood, saan?”

    Soldier, you’re talking rubbish!

    Many places! GHQ, HQ PA, HQPN, HQ PAF, in Fort Magsaysay, in PMA, in training center in Zambales, in HQs, eg, WESCOM, VISCOM, NOLCOM, SOUTHCOM and dammit, the best place to launch a strike is in MALACANANG – many PSGs there already from whose ranks, you can recruit trained fighters!

  82. Re “Soldier, you’re talking rubbish!”

    That wasn’t meant for nelbar, that was meant for the SWAG fellow who said that! I know most of those SWAGS who joined the Oakwood and can tell the guy who said “Kung hindi sa Oakwood, saan?” to his face, “Soldier, you’re talking rubbish!”

  83. Forget San Juan! He was parleying with the commies even before he was caught! I’ve always suspected he was an NPA asset.

  84. This government is odious in the extreme! That it should treat it’s highly trained, well-qualified, extremely good naval assets as these SWAGs with such contempt and forcing them to quit the Navy is criminal!

  85. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    Hay naku. ang ibig kung sabihin ay baka kayo mapaso ulit tulad ng nakaraang eleksyon. ilan na ang bumaliktad. suspetsa ko, tatahimik na si cayetano.

    sa magdalo, ilan na ang bumaliktad. iyan ang ibig kung sabihin na pag-isipan.

  86. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    o, di ba kanina lang sabi ninyo maganda kung may MAGDALO PARTY (MP)sa eleksyon. eh, mula sa post ni nelbar ito ang sabi:

    ———————————-
    12 officers plead guilty

    Twelve military officers, who allegedly led the Oakwood mutiny, pleaded guilty to charges of violation of the Articles of War before the general court-martial yesterday.
    ———————————-

    bumaliktad na!

  87. “sa magdalo, ilan na ang bumaliktad. iyan ang ibig kung sabihin na pag-isipan.”

    Pag-isipan? What exactly is your point? Anong pag-iisipan sa ika mo na bumaliktad? At kung ganoon, ano ang dapat isipin? O sa palagay mo dapat ‘teka-teka attitude’ ang kailangan all the way and back to hell? Ganoon ba?

  88. nelbar nelbar

    AdeBrux:

    Parang nakikita ko sa pagkatao mo si Paddy Ashdown – ang nagkumbinsi sa US State Department na bigyang ng go signal ang Operation Storm ng Croatia.

  89. Putragis!

    “12 officers plead guilty

    Twelve military officers, who allegedly led the Oakwood mutiny, pleaded guilty to charges of violation of the Articles of War before the general court-martial yesterday.”

    What is goddamn wrong with pleading to charges of violation of the Articles of War?

    If they believed they committed it, and I think they did, so goddamn what if they pleaded guilty? Pleading guilty to violations of the Articles of War is INFINITELY MORE HONOURABLE than the continuing mental delusion of Gloria and her cabal of Hello Garci generals that they didn’t do anything wrong!

  90. Putragis, anong bumaligtad ang ibig mong sabihin? 4 years ago, they already made a pact, part of the terms of surrender with the Cimatu panel to accept to be charged with violating Articles of War…

    So, putragis, paano bumaligtad iyang mga sundalo? Putragis, si poooothah Gloria at and àé_ç_-ç_é)_)é_nang Gonzales ang bumaligtad!

    Let’s get our facts straight first or shut up!

  91. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    11 million ang boto ni trillanes. si gloria 16 million noong na re-elect. tingnan mo ngayon si gloria, masahol pa kay marcos. baka pareho pa ang taguan nila ng pera sa switzerland.

  92. Nelbar,

    I don’t know if I should be flattered by the comparisson but I never liked Paddy Ashdown, in spite of his being LibDem, he was (and still is) glued to Tony Blair’s ass which I definitely I’m not.

  93. “baka pareho pa ang taguan nila ng pera sa switzerland.”

    Sino? Ni Gloria at ni Marcos?

  94. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    16 million noong na re-elect na senador….

  95. DinaPinoy,

    Eh bakit mong pinagpipilitang i-kumpara si Trillanes kay Gloria? Walang comparisson ang dalawa!

    Si Gloria ay magnanakaw, sinungaling, walanghiya, at bugaw (pahiram Yuko)…

  96. luzviminda luzviminda

    Re Anna: “Yes, we want Trillanes to represent us, we want Trillanes to go ahead and fight this government of evil, and yes, if he can do it, we want him to topple this government, and lastly, we believe he may have have erred tactically in choosing Oakwood to stage his mutiny (instead of directly in Malacanang), but heck we believe he can do better next time…!”

    I second the motion Anna! Si Trillanes ang nananatiling ating pag-asa maski siya ay nakakulong. Pero sabi nga ni Trillanes, maski ang mga bakal na rehas ay hindi kayang pigilin ang kanyang mithiing makamtan ng Pilipinas ang tunay na kalayaan. Tuloy ang LABAN!

  97. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    wala naman. ibig ko lang sabihin, tanga yung mga bomoto kay gloria noon.

  98. Ah, ok, thanks for re-calibrating your thoughts, DinaPinoy!

    About time. But I gather you didn’t want to mean that the folks who voted for Trillanes are dumb?

  99. cvj cvj

    DinaPinoy, isa ako sa mga tangang bumoto kay Gloria. Totoong naloko ako niya. Sana pinakinggan ko ang mga pahayag ni Trillanes noong nasa Oakwood sila.

  100. luzviminda luzviminda

    cvj,

    Talagang ang pagsisisi ay sa bandang huli. Marami na ang nagsisi sa pagtulong sa pag-upo kay Gloria sa nakaw na trono. Mabuti naman at nagising ka na! Kaya sama ka sa pagtulong na patalsikin si Gloria!

  101. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    hindi pa masabi kung ano ang kulay. baka tulad din siya ni gringo. sana nga palabasin na para makita kung ano ang gagawin.

    ang politics sa pilipinas ay parang kumunoy.

  102. Luz,

    I consider cvj as one of the cornerstones of the fight against Gloria’s evil government!

  103. What is “kumunoy?”

  104. luzviminda luzviminda

    Anna,

    Kumunoy is “quicksand”.

  105. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    ito lang ang itatanong ko kay trillanes pag upo niya sa senado: bakit hindi ang malakanyang ang nilagyan nila ng bomba? bakit taong bayan ang inilagay niya sa panganib?

  106. Ah! Thanks, Luz!

  107. Nakaupo na si Trillanes – saan ka ba nangaling na hanggang ngayon ay di mo alam na legally and constitutionally ay nakaupo na si Trillanes sa Senado?

    Sige, tanungin mo siya – padalhan mo siya ng sulat! Iyon lang pala naman ng pinanggigil mo…

  108. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    hindi pang-gigigil yan. sa tingin ko ay lehitimong tanong yan.
    ikaw na rin ang nagsabi na maaaring tactical error ang ginawa niya sa pag puntirya sa oakwood. pero kung kapakanan ng mamamayan ang nais niya, bakit naglagay pa ng bomba?

    at saka anna, alam mo naman ang ibig kung sabihin sa pag-upo niya sa senado. huwag na tayong maging sarkastik.

  109. Dirk Pitt Dirk Pitt

    “Dirk
    You got an idea there, but the fact is, there is no law saying that any senator should resign first before running to any elective position, lower or higher than a senator, hence there’s no rider to speak of, ergo, nothing can be called unconstitutional.
    There were debates on that aspect many times before but it did not gain enough momentum. Now, granting that the 14th Congess passed a bill prohibiting a senator to resume his position after losing his bid for any elective position, even it becomes a law, chances are, it will not be retroactive.
    Granting again, for the sake of argument that the bill as passed is for immediate implementation, it will naturally affect only one person, Lito Lapid. But as long as Gloria Arroyo is still in Malacanang, no way it will become a law. She will not allow it, she will veto it.
    For all we know, Lito Lapid was elected to the Senate not to speak on anything but just to make use of his one vote on anything that will benefit the Arroyo administration.
    Turning Point”
    Turning Point
    Sec. 67 of the Omnibus Election Code provides that candidates running for positions other than the ones they are actually holding will forfeit such offices upon filing of their certificates of candidacy except only where they are running for President or Vice President of the Philippines. So Lito Lapid should have forfeited his Senate seat when he filed his candidacy for mayor of Makati.
    But here comes RA 9006 (Fair Elections Act of 2003). Sec. 14, a rider in this law provides for the repeal of Sec. 67 of the Omnibus Election Code which is an entirely different matter and has no connection whatsoever with what RA 9006 is dealing with.
    Even Gloria’s election lawyer, Romy Macalintal believed that this rider is unconstitutional.
    What is to be done is for one lawyer to challenge Lapid’s assumption of the Senate seat in the Supreme Court.
    Then it might result in a Senate with one less Gloria stooge.

  110. luzviminda luzviminda

    DinaPinoy says:
    “bakit hindi ang malakanyang ang nilagyan nila ng bomba? bakit taong bayan ang inilagay niya sa panganib?”

    DinaPinoy,

    Kung babalikan mo yung mga pangyayari at mga sinabi nila Trillanes sa Oakwood ay hindi nila nais na pabagsakin o ikudeta ang gobyerno ni Gloria kaya hindi nila tinanim ang bomba sa Malakanyang, kundi ang mapakinggan ang kanilang mga hinaing at grievances bilang mga sundalong lumalaban para sa bayan. At after 4 years ay lalong lumala ang kalagayan ng aming mga sundalo. Ngunit nasabi nila na Gloria should step down kung hindi niya magampanan ang tungkulin ng Commander-in-Chief. (na ngayon ay Commander-in-Cheat/Thief). Pero malay natin baka in the near future ay sa Malakanyang na ilagay ang bomba! Yehey!

  111. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    luzviminda, salamat sa sagot mo. kung gusto lang nilang mapakinggan, bakit kailangan pang ilagay sa panganib ang taong-bayan?

  112. artchi artchi

    # AdeBrux Says:

    July 27th, 2007 at 7:51 pm

    What is “kumunoy?”

    Sagot: “Kumunoy” lang hindi mo pa alam? Ibig sabihin “Kumag na Pinoy”. Pero kung itatanong mo sa mga taong bayan, ang ibig sabihin daw ay “Kumu-kulo ang dugo ng Pinoy”.

  113. nelbar nelbar

    DinaPinoy:

    gasgas na yang tanong mo tungkol sa paglalagay ng bomba sa palibot ng Oakwood!

    Kung masyadong ambisyoso noon si General Teodosio, at kahit na walang mga bomba na nakapaligid sa Oakwood? Pinasok na nito ang loob ng Oakwood!

    Eh di sana wala na rin GMA ngayon sa pwesto at baka si General Teodosio pa ang naging Kumander in Tsip.

    Ipagkumpara mo ang mga naging role ni Gen. Lim noong 1987 sa Channel 4(TV Stn) at ang iba pang mga Mayor na nag-reinforcement kuno noong panahon ng kudeta laban kay Cory.

    Hindi ka pa siguro tule noong nag-alsa ang mga sundalo noong 1989 at inukopahan nito ang Makati?

    Siguro naman may ideya kana kung ano ginampanan ng isang Mayor ng Makati noong panahong yun?

    Nanaig ba ang ambisyon sa mga taong binanggit ko?

    DinaPinoy, magkaiba ang ‘tagpos muna bago tinulian’ at ‘tinuli na hindi pa tagpos!

    Sana nakuha mo ang ibig kong sabihin at alam mo na kung ano SUNGAW!

  114. cvj cvj

    Dinapinoy, tama ang sinabi ni Luzviminda sa akin. Ang dapat na reaksyon kung ikaw ay naloko ay ang labanan ang nanloko. Kung nanloko din si Cayetano, makakatikim din siya ng galit ng mga bumoto sa kanya. Sa ganoon lang paraan matututo ang ating mga politiko.

    Ang hindi tama ay ang paghinalaan ang lahat na hindi pa naman nabistong nanloloko. Hindi naman yata makatarungan iyon at at kung hahayaan nating mawalan tayo ng loob, walang mangyayari sa bayan atin.

  115. luzviminda luzviminda

    Maybe that is what they thought would be the way to ‘forced’ the government of Gloria to hear their grievances. But I believe the civilians in Oakwood are free to leave the premises at that time but opted to stay because they also believed in their cause. Pero tingnan mo ang nangyari after the Magdalo’s stand-down, believing na tutugunan ni Gloria ang mga hinaing. Our soldiery have never been more politicized and neglected! Yung pa rin ang ipinaglalaban ng Magdalo hanggang ngayon. Kasama na ang tunay na paglaya ng Pilipinas sa mga tunay na kalaban ng bayan.

  116. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    nelbar,
    hindi mo siguro naranasan na tumingin sa dulo ng armalite na nakatutok sa ulo mo noong panahon ni marcos. hindi mo siguro naranasan na satsatin ang buhok mo noong martial law.

  117. luzviminda luzviminda

    My last post above is my answer to DinaPinoy.

  118. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    sorry pero personalan na naman ang nangyayari dito.

    aalis na muna ako bago ako tanggalin ni ellen.

  119. luzviminda luzviminda

    DinaPinoy,

    I just answered your question about the civilians. I am not getting personal.

  120. Sorry, don’t know what you mean!

    “at saka anna, alam mo naman ang ibig kung sabihin sa pag-upo niya sa senado. huwag na tayong maging sarkastik.”

    Either he is nakaupo o hindi nakaupo! Wasn’t being sarcastic at all.

    And Dinapinoy, you were the first one who launched the personalan here. You inferred people were dumb… as in “mag-isip muna…” People’s opinion here against your opinion that people who voted for Trillanes were ‘dumb’, pale in comparisson to what you just said, particularly when you cut and pasted Tulfo’s thrash as your reference of truth.

    That said, I don’t blame you for being pessimistic and sceptical of Pinoy voters and journalists but it’s one thing to be that but another to infer that Ellen is comparable to Tulfo!

  121. artchi artchi

    DinaPinoy, masasanay ka din dito sa blog. Kung hindi ka sumabay sa agos, lagi kang maiipit sa mga malalaking bato. Mabigat at makapal ang pader na mga kausap mo. Ang una mong dapat gawin para matanggap ka nila ay palitan ang pangalan ng “PinoynasiDina” o “PinoynaAko”. Kapag binangga mo ang isa, marami ang makakalaban mo. Parang Mafia. Tapos, bigla na lang hindi ka na makakapasok dito. Kung kontra ka ng kontra, buti pang lumipat ka na lang ng ibang blog tulad ng ginawa ng marami.

    Tinutukan ka na ba ng armalite noon panahon ni Marcos? Buti noon tutok lang…eh ngayon, patay ka agad. Mas may puso pa nga si Marcos kesa dito sa tiyanak na ito. Hindi mo puwedeng ikumpara si Marcos dito kay tiyanak. Naging Santo si Marcos dahil nga kay tiyanak.

  122. Shut up artchi with your nonsense! By saying what you said there, you make it appear as if this blog here is composed of a lynch mob!

    This blog here (and correct me if I’m wrong Ellen) is against Gloria. For those who are for Gloria, there are other blogs out there who praise her to kingdom come too so gotta make a choice, either you are for or against evil but you can’t just stand idly and criticize those who criticize Gloria here without any real purpose save to say people who criticize Gloria don’t think…!

    If there are posters who want to say that Gloria’s governance is good, fine! That’s ok with me and they must say so loud and clear but that person has got to back his/her yakatiyakyak with facts!

  123. luzviminda luzviminda

    “Tinutukan ka na ba ng armalite noon panahon ni Marcos? Buti noon tutok lang…eh ngayon, patay ka agad. Mas may puso pa nga si Marcos kesa dito sa tiyanak na ito. Hindi mo puwedeng ikumpara si Marcos dito kay tiyanak. Naging Santo si Marcos dahil nga kay tiyanak.”

    Hahaha! Tama ka, nagmukhang santo nga si Marcos dahil kay Gloria Engkantada. At dati, ang mga aktibista ay ‘iniimbitahan’ at kinukulong ng mga militar, pero ngayon ay dinudukot at hindi alam kung nasaan at tinatanggi pa ng mga militia ng gobyerno ni Gloria.

  124. Nice, very nice Anna.

  125. chi chi

    cvj Says:

    July 27th, 2007 at 8:29 pm

    Dinapinoy, tama ang sinabi ni Luzviminda sa akin. Ang dapat na reaksyon kung ikaw ay naloko ay ang labanan ang nanloko. Kung nanloko din si Cayetano, makakatikim din siya ng galit ng mga bumoto sa kanya. Sa ganoon lang paraan matututo ang ating mga politiko.

    cvj and luz,

    Iyan ang tamang approach sa labanan, hindi iyong walang stand at tumitigil sa laban. Sa pagkakamali ay natututo ang marurunong, samantalang patuloy na nagkakamali ang mga gunggong!

  126. Marcos was infinitely more humane in that sense than this Gloria wannabe president!

    Marcos went all out and declared martial law and had many rounded up, true! His military rounded up their ideological enemies who were being equipped, trained, indoctrinated by the Maoists from then Red China. True, human rights violations of probably extreme proportions were committed. But one thing, Marcos did not kill his worst enemies even when he could have: Victor Corpuz, JoMa Sison, Beltran, Jalandoni, Agcaoili, etc., etc., not even when he knew that JoMa’s CPP had been receiving caches of weapons and ammunitions, including dollars from our Red Chinese neighbours – he even allowed the children of JoMa to leave Pinas in peace and be brought to Red China where two of them grew up!

  127. As opposed to Gloria, who is accused by the local and international groups of staging abductions and murdering her opponents (by command responsibility) in spite of the fact that the Communist Party is no longer illegal in Pinas; that instead of extending a hand to the poor folks who are already victims of some bandits belonging to Ka Roger’s NPA brigade prey, she still allows some of our troops to hunt down the poor folks whose only purpose in life is to possess some form of dignity!

  128. Where was Gloria during the People’s Power 1?

  129. Marcos was a weak dictator! His wife probably weakened him… he should have lined up all the enemies of the State, from left to right, the oligarchs, etc. and shot them; we probably wouldn’t be seeing the same bandits of wannabe do-gooders and bleeding pro-Gloria journalists in government today!

  130. chi chi

    # schumey Says:

    July 27th, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    Chi,

    Its the big one with bulletproofing to boot. Its a very rare car model here and only celebs and enthusiasts buy it.

    Schumey,

    The true rich and famous, and celebs don’t buy that kind of Hummer here, ikinahihiya nila! Too showy, kaya siguro gusto ni Tulfo! Passe na tuloy ‘yan dito.

    Did you see that film of Robert de Niro when he was fetch by that humungous SUV? Nagtago, s’ya and away from the Hummer so people won’t see!

  131. chi chi

    “Either he (Trillanes) is nakaupo o hindi nakaupo!”

    That’s a terrific short sentence, Anna.
    Black and white…no gray!

  132. chi chi

    Black or white…no gray

  133. Is that so, Dirk?

    Sec. 67 of the Omnibus Election Code provides that candidates running for positions other than the ones they are actually holding will forfeit such offices upon filing of their certificates of candidacy except only where they are running for President or Vice President of the Philippines. So Lito Lapid should have forfeited his Senate seat when he filed his candidacy for mayor of Makati.

    Then what the heck is this Lapid doing sitting in the Senate?

  134. Chi, Schumey, thanks for the thumbs up!

  135. Please try to understand this:

    Gambala and maestrocampo’s group (the 12 who pleaded guilty last week) are the ones who bumaligtad. They are now in favor of gloria arroyo. I can imagine that there are also favors in return for their turning against the Magdalo cause.

    Lawrence San Juan is a separate case. He has allowed himself to be used by the government against Trillanes. He is actually to be pitied.

    The 54 and many others who entered into a plea bargain did so for strategic reasons. I’ve talked with them and they have not abandoned the cause they fought for four years ago.

    Please read the article thoroughly. See the charges that were dismissed in exchange for their pleading guilty to conduct prejudicial to public order and discipline. They did not plead guilty to mutiny.

    As to the apology they issued in 2004, that was in exchange for the freedom of the enlisted men and for improved prison conditions for everybody. It was a sacrifice that the core leaders had to do. They showed their men that they are capable of sacrifice. That sacrifice was appreciated.

  136. chi chi

    ‘Siensya na Ka Enchong kung aking hinalukay sa baul itong mga linya mo tungkol sa Oakwood kasi ay ito rin ang personal kung opinyon.

    ***Ka Enchong Says:

    April 24th, 2007 at 2:44 pm

    “… While Trillanes may have gone to Oakwood in 2003 armed with bombs, he was quick to realize that standing his ground would make bloodshed inevitable. To this day, I believe that his only motivation in going for the Oakwood compromise was his desire to prevent blood, particularly those of the innocent civilians, from flooding the streets of Makati.”
    ***

    Mas kahanga-hanga at isang kabayanihan ang ginawa ni Trillanes at grupo ng Magdalo na mag-compromise sa traydor na Gloria at Ass-peron kesa merong sibilyan na mamatay. Marunong silang mag-respeto ng buhay!

  137. luzviminda luzviminda

    The Oakwood incident was a failure then because we failed them and did not listen. We doubted their motive that what they are doing then is for our country…And now we are suffering under the claws of these treacheouus and tyrannical government of Gloria. But the Fire and Spirit of Oakwood are still alive and more burning! Next time we will not fail!

  138. Ang galing mo Chi maghalukay sa archives!

  139. Yes, LVM, they waited for us and we didn’t show up. (I was there as a journalist covering for the Sydney Morning Herald.) We were the ones who failed them.

    In many ways, our vote for Trillanes last election was our way of making up to them.

  140. chi chi

    Ellen,

    Kaya nga ang aking Mabuhay line ay para sa lahat ng Magdalo. The mere fact that all these men joined Oakwood spoke of their sincere cause then. Matapos makuha ni Gloria at Assperon ang compromise ay sila naman ang na-traydor.

    Kung anuman ang kapalit/pananakot sa mga miembro na Magdalo, patigasan na lang iyan ng prinsipyo, adhikain at pagmamahal sa bansa.

    Kung wala silang lahat na sumapi noon sa Oakwood ay wala ring katatakutan ngayon si Gloria at Ass-peron. Hindi bigo ang Oakwood…ito pa lang ang simula ng laban against the country’s tyrants!

  141. chi chi

    Ellen,

    Lahat ng magandang posts dito, buhat ng sumali ako, ay alam ko yata kung saan hahalungkatin. heheh!

  142. luzviminda luzviminda

    Yes Ate Ellen, Next time we will be there to support all the way! We will not fail them anymore!

  143. luzviminda luzviminda

    We will NOT fail them anymore!

  144. From Raul Nepomuceno:

    I was deeply moved and cried when I read the statement of Capt. Faeldon, these officers are the modern day Jose Rizals. It is just like making a frustrating cry in the darkness of a dungeon, nobody to help, all playing deaf ears. Is there any hope for the Philippines?

    R. J. Nepomuceno
    Union City, Ca.

  145. Ellen,

    I understand that “Army Captains Army Captains Gerardo Gambala, Milo Maestrecampo, Lt. Lawrence San Juan and ten others now sing tunes favorable to the Arroyo government.”

    Do you mean that in addition to these officers, there are other 9 officers who “…are now in favor of gloria arroyo.” and are rightly tagged “baligtad”?

    Firstly, even if those “The 54 and many others who entered into a plea bargain did so for strategic reasons.” admitted guilt re violations of Articles of War, I have no reservation saying that they are infinitely more honourable than Gloria’s Hello Garci Generals.

    Second, admitting guilt for violations of war when they are committed for a noble purpose, i.e, to topple a corrupt and immoral, illegal government is not the same guilt that can imputed on common criminals.

    Lastly, having said that, it is imperative for these officers to put a monkey wrench in the kangaroo proceedings being formulated by both civilian and military courts. And I believe that in this sense, there is nothing wrong with with the 54 pleading guilty, particularly because they did it for strategic reasons! Go lads, go!

    And to Trillanes and his fellow navy and marines officers, as we say in the UK, GO, NAVY, GO! GO, NAVY, GO!

  146. Ellen,

    My husband, a former Royal Navy commander has just told me this instant (afterhe read your blog thread) that he would be very honoured to shake the hands of his fellow navy officer, Lt Trillanes!

  147. Spy Spy

    Oakwood incident is a clear manifestation that the soldiers are against their corrupt commanders.
    —-
    the afp forced the ”repenting rebels” to do a gma ”im sorry”
    —-
    gma admin wants us all filipinos to succumb to their corrupt, criminal, and immoral way of life.

    gma lost because some accused Oakwood mutineers didnt give up and that it was followed by the so-called attempted withdrawal of support by no less than the special units of AFP and PNP!
    —-

  148. Spy Spy

    Mabuhay, sen trillanes!
    Mabuhay, gen miranda!
    Mabuhay, gen lim!
    Mabuhay, col querubin!

    mabuhay ang Pilipino!

    Oust GMA, Esperon, Gonzales….NOW!

  149. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Ellen Says:
    July 27th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
    “Yes, LVM, they waited for us and we didn’t show up. (I was there as a journalist covering for the Sydney Morning Herald.) We were the ones who failed them.”

    It was about 4PM an hour before the presscon at the lobby, when mediators started convincing the Magdalo troops to open negotiations as Trillanes told a reporter, “We are doing this for the people, if they do not appreciate it and do not come to support us, maybe they really deserve Gloria Arroyo”. Or something very much like that. And in a very sour voice.

    It was at that point that I realized the putsch has gone kaput. They probably hoped civilians would fill the place, like they did in ’86 that if the gov’t troops insisted on plucking them out with force, the mere thought of the shedding of civilian blood could be the perfect catalyst for the other fencesitting commanders to make the choice right there and then. It was supposed to be a choice between the corrupt military leadership with their corrupt civilian patrons, and the reformist officers with the thousands of people who shared their cause. Sadly, there was not a single soul there. The bombs scared them.

    Ellen is right. Oakwood was a failure because we were cowards. We wanted Trillanes and his men to fight to the end. While we watched it on TV.

  150. paquito paquito

    Demonyo talaga itong si Gloria—lahat ng tao isinusumpa sya…pari or obispo, mamamayang pinoy, magdalo, mahihirap + silent majority sa mga sundalo at kapulisan. Isa-isahin nyo ang mga company sa pilipinas at itanong nyo si Gloria..wala silang sasabihin kundi yak! nandidiri sila kay Gloria na para bang puta. Paano ka naman hindi mandidiri sa demonyo, magnanakaw, mandaraya at sinungaling. Mga walang kasalanan na mga sundalo ipinakukulong e kasalanan ba magsabi ng totoo? Demonyo ka Gloria sana malason ka.Pwe! Nakakadiri ka na, para syang isang babaeng masahol pa sa puta.

  151. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    BTW, Ellen, I have not heard/read anything about Lieutenant Aldrin Baldonado. Would you know what could have happened to him or his case?

  152. Frankly, the first time I saw Trillanes briefing the journalists who gathered at Oakwood when the Magdalo soldiers were waiting for the people to join them, I was kind of skeptical. I told my friend about the possible coup and asked what he and his friends would do if it escalated. I was disappointed when he said that it could be just another ploy or flop.

    Yup, the Filipinos failed them. They should not now. They should fully support the movement to have these gallant soldiers to be free, and give Trillanes the great chance and opportunity to serve his country and people well as their senator.

  153. That’s it, Anna. Birahan mo. Love you for your courage, girl! Supalpalin mo!

  154. rontoniotrill4 rontoniotrill4

    Dinapinoy,be neutral.Kung anuman ang ipinakita ni Sen. Trillanes before,that’s part of his being a common Tao.I understand him for that.And that is based only in the write-ups of Mr. Tulfo.Who knows if that is 100% true.Knowing Tulfo Brothers(ehem).
    Maybe if you are in the situation of Sen. Trillanes,baka higit pa dun ang gawin mo.Lalo na kung alam mo na puro panggigipit na ang ginagawa sa yo.
    Isa lang amg masasabi ko.Vindicated ang mga Oakwood mutineers sa ginawa nilang pagbubunyag ng mga lihim ng NAAAGNAS NANG ARMED FORCES OF GLORIA ARROYO.
    Talamak na corruption involving some officials.Di ba at nasampolan si Carlos Garcia at mga kasama?
    Ang mga walang kwenta at depektibong armas kasama na ang mga bala nito.O ano ba ang nangyari sa labanan sa Basilan?Nakakaawa ang mga kapatid nating sundalo na naiipit sa labanan.
    Kaya tama lang talagang palayain na ang mga oakwood mutineers dahil legal ang mga ipinaglalaban nila.May mga basehan silang pinanghahawakan.Ang mahirap sa nangyayari ngayon sa bansa natin,kung ano ang mga ilegal,yun ang nangingibabaw.
    Ay naku may araw ka rin gloria.
    Nakakahiya nga Ate Ellen,two days after her non-sense state of the nation lies and balooneys,na-published sa no.1 broadsheet dito sa Dubai,ang GULF NEWS,Business Section,page38,ang statement ng pamosong James McCormack of FITCH RATINGS,na napakalaki ng budget deficit ng bansa sa 1st quarter ng taon.
    Nasaan ang ipinagyayabang ni gloria na umaangat na ang ekonomiya?Dapat kasi aminin na nya ang totoo.Nagdudumilat ang katotohanan sa mga alegasyon ng mga oakwood mutineers.Sana man lang kilabutan sya sa mga kasinungalingan nya.

  155. DinaPinoy DinaPinoy

    AdeBrux Says:

    July 27th, 2007 at 7:19 pm

    Putragis!

    “12 officers plead guilty

    Twelve military officers, who allegedly led the Oakwood mutiny, pleaded guilty to charges of violation of the Articles of War before the general court-martial yesterday.”

    What is goddamn wrong with pleading to charges of violation of the Articles of War?

    Ellen Says:

    July 27th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    Please try to understand this:

    Gambala and maestrocampo’s group (the 12 who pleaded guilty last week) are the ones who bumaligtad. They are now in favor of gloria arroyo. I can imagine that there are also favors in return for their turning against the Magdalo cause.

    —————————
    BUMALIKTAD!

  156. rose rose

    If we failed in our support to Sen. Trillanes, then we have now learned and we will not let it happen again.And this is no threat to the administration but a promise that we will do, so they, too, will learn. Kung naluko man ni Gloria noon, hindi na niya maluko ngayon. In Good Morning America yesterday, Mayor Bloomberg of NYC said this..”voters should make (I would say demand) the candidates to be responsible (and I would add accountable)to them.” And once they are elected they should be more responsible and transparent in their accountability. This should also be true in the Phil. and with the lessons we learned and continue to learn..this is possible to do..kung tunay ang damdamin natin sa pagka Filipino…we can be a powerful force and should be a powerful one. Hindi ba?

  157. DinaPinoy,

    So it seems you are right, my apologies if you were referring to these 12 officers who have become pro-Gloria.

    Not the end of the world.

    Anyway, let’s get this straight! It is perfectly normal that even with best laid plans, laid down by the best men in the world with the best intentions, something is still bound to go wrong, and when that happens, it falls under the basic tenet of Murphy’s law.

    That being said, again, you cannot maliciously impute the faults of a dirty dozen the honourable rest, those who have not given up their ideals. If you keep thinking, “Oh, well, nothing good is gonna come out of anything because, they all will basically turn around and kiss Gloria’s ass, so why bother with believing that there’s honour and good in men?”, then DinaPinoy you are gone, a goner and basically, will always be a loser!

    People who never take risks because they basically believe “They’re all alike!” and thus give up even before they should even begin to try to make a difference, are no better than the paper they write their names on. They ought to step aside, watch from the sidelines and not make a squeak to allow those who have the balls to stand up and choose to fight!

    As I said, you gotta make a choice, either for or against but by simply criticizing and saying, “See what I told you?”, you are not doing yourself a favour, you are merely torturing yourself. You can’t do anything? Then, don’t do anything but I suggest you do it without a squeak!

  158. Ooops, “That being said, again, you cannot maliciously impute the faults of a dirty dozen ON the honourable rest, those who have not given up their ideals.”

  159. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Patuloy ba ang ligaya at kurakotan sa AFP? Sa Tipo-Tipo, Basilan, mortar rockets ay palapak at pati baterya ng radio. Ito’y patunay na business as usual. Kaloboso si Heneral Esperon . Huwag payagan ang isang Moro-Moro imbestigasyon o whitewash. Magaling lang sila sa propaganda. Naka-kasuka itong Commnader-In-Thief Gloria Arroyo. Akala mo totoong may pag-malasakit sa sundalong nasugatan sa Tipo-Tipo. Sa totoo lang crocodile tears pala. Buking ka na!

    Magdalo soldiers accused the corrupt Gloria Arroyo government has been selling arms to rebel forces such as the New People’s Army, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and the Abu Sayyaf. The top brass of the military are enriching themselves by pocketing AFP funds while their men are dying in the battlefields.

    Arming the Enemy
    pcij.org/imag/PublicEye/arming.html

    The ‘Cavaliers’ group in the Philippine Senate should make the Tipo-Tipo fiasco a top priority for senate inquiry.

  160. neonate neonate

    Oakwood is now part of our history in the genre of EDSA I & II, but without deposing the incumbent (a pity). Each of these historical events has redeeming factors, and in the Oakwood case, I choose the Trillanes phenomenon. I say the capitulation of “the 12 officers” is a wart of the event, an offshoot of the age-old carrot-and-stick technique (pain softens resistance).
    The phenomenon is remarkable, maybe even unique, as it is a manifestation of traits that normally are incompatible: intense hate and admiration. The strange bedfellows are the awe for an intrepid military man and the disgust for an undeserving leader. And this in turn redeemed the lack of public response at the Oakwood incident.

  161. neonate neonate

    For those of us who are not familiar with the concept of Murphy’s Law quoted in a previous post, following is an excerpt of an article I wrote.
    If there is a wrong way to do something, then someone will do it. — Edward A. Murphy Jr.
    To most people Murphy’s Law is a joke. But to its originator, a real live person named Edward A. Murphy Jr., his law is a serious maxim about mankind’s fallible interaction with machines. Anyone who confronts a piece of equipment for the first time, says Murphy, should find out if there is a way to bollix it. Can a part be put backwards? Can two wires be crossed? If so, heed Murphy’s admonition and make double sure that doing something the “wrong” way is difficult — preferably impossible.
    Murphy’s law has been around since the first caveman realized that it was the tenderest part of meat that fell off his skewer into the fire. But not until 1949 was this law of nature given the name it bears today. In that year, after a near-disastrous mistake made by a member of the team working on an airforce project, Captain Murphy pronounced, “If there are two or more ways to do something, and one of these ways can result in a catastrophe, then someone will do it.”A colleague promptly dubbed it Murphy’s law. The press picked up the story, and Murpy’s Law was born.
    Then humorous variations began to appear. The most popular version — “If something can go wrong, it will.” This fatalistic acceptance of the inevitable perverts the original concept of a sort of moral to help prevent accidents. Since then, Murphy’s law has spawned many versions.

  162. Tongue, Lt. Aldrin Baldonado and Lt. Sonny Sarmiento are in solitary confinement in the ISG compound in Fort Bonifacio.

    They are holding on. Kawawa nga e. The others, San Juan, Rabonza and another one have succumbed to pressure. Or should I use the word torture?

    I understand they are now allowed to go out of their cells two hours daily for fresh air and sunlight unlike before when it was only for an hour whenever their jailers want it.

    Venus Sarmiento, wife of Lt. Sarmiento, spoke about the conditions of their husband in a Magdalo update in Probe last Wednesday, Channel 2, ABS-CBN. There’s a replay today 9:30 am at ANC and Sunday 1:30 p.m. Try to catch up with it.

    There was an article on the two, comparing their treat to Gambala and company. Click here.

  163. Anna, re:Do you mean that in addition to these officers, there are other 9 officers who “…are now in favor of gloria arroyo.” and are rightly tagged “baligtad”?, click here.

  164. neonate neonate

    Lts Baldonado and Sarmiento are treated harshly while Capt Gambala and his caponed group are enjoying resort-like comfort? How does this square with Joker Arroyo’s ‘equal protection of the laws’ logic when he explained his negative vote on the Senate’s resolution re Trillanes bail?

  165. chi chi

    Joker can’t be trusted with good reasoning anymore. He’s suffering from Pidalistic disease!

  166. Mrivera Mrivera

    anak ng pulgas, naiiyak na ako sa galit dahil sa kawalanghiyaan ng mga walanghiyang walang sawa sa pagwawalanghiya sa mga taong sumasalungat sa kanilang kawalanghiyaan sa bayan!

    …pangilinan! matapang ka sa walang kalabanlaban samantalang ni hindi mo naranasang mahagingan ng bala sa operation. wala ka pang isang taon sa jolo nagpa-transfer ka agad sa garrison dahil sa takot mong katayin ka ng sarili mong mga tauhan bunga ng iyong kayabangan!

  167. AK-47 AK-47

    We will never attain equal justice and enjoy life freely in this country unless the vermin jerk gloria macapagal arroyo “the brain of all evil acts” is terminated !

    people of the republic of the philippines shall act now ! you don’t need to wait for the clock to click !

    gloria is now “insane”.

  168. AK-47 AK-47

    To Trillanes : continue your fight, never get lost in your way no matter what happened, people of the philippines are behind you.

  169. Gosh, I feel apprehensive about how these soldiers who have surrendered to a criminal can protect the Philippines in case it is attacked by enemies from the outside! Golly

  170. 3 cheers to the gallant men of Magdalo still in jail and sticking it out with their principles, and faith even in God, their country, and people! Kakaunti lang sila! No wonder, the Philippines is in its sorry state presently. Ang daming duwag!!! Nakakai-Yuck!

  171. Valdemar Valdemar

    I see a very healthy discussion above. And there are just so many sides. But the preponderance of all sides can not even tip the balance. The power of the administration is growing exponentially. Fire could be nipped at its budding start, or when its still small or sputtering or choking. When Gloria was choking, the CBCP missed that chance. when the Garci Tape was in the limelight, there was not enough smothering compounds. And when blogs become in vougue they turn out all just windy air. Now, no one can even touch the headhunters in the South. Or even the double dead meat delivery driver. Yes, you and Senator Trillanes noticed all the corruptions and all. There must be a way to stop it. What is it? To borrow the idea from someone, lets talk of what each one now is doing or your suggestments and not necessarily what to expect from the government. Just hold on to your nomdeguerre. Sorry if I make some eavesdroppers happy here.

  172. Who say that we are not achieving anything in this blog? Takot na takot nga ang mga alipores ni Poohtah sa mga bloggers dito and they are trying their dumbest to make the bloggers here look and feel stupid! But they are definitely not succeeding.

    At least, we see proof of what we can do in the last election with our pet candidate winning despite the odds. But then, of course, his victory, we must not forget must have been written in heaven. This gallant soldier named “Trillanes” must have been foreordained to challenge and topple the devil’s advocate called “Gloria Maca(pal)pagal Arroyo y Pidal” as when Lucifer and his legions of fallen angels were driven out of heaven and possessing the likes of the Pidals, the Zubiris and the Abalosloses. Let them try to thwart the Will of Heaven! We know what’s gonna happen to them!

    Patalsikin Na, Now Na!

  173. Valdemar Valdemar

    Yeah, I agree with some here that ystakei has no absolute moral right as a person to call anyone ….. She has the right if she is really that low. Even that is only an expression.

  174. Mrivera Mrivera

    kungsabagay, ang nangyayari sa pilipinas, sa ilalim ng pamumuno ng talipandas na babaeng pinipilit palakahin ang boses kapag nagsasalita upang masindak ang mga bumabatikos sa kanya, ay HININGI na rin ng mga TANGANG sumuporta sa kanya noong pagplanuhang patalsikin si erap. sabi nga, they get what they deserve.

    nadadamay lamang ang mas nakararaming maralita na walang sapat at tuwirang pinagkukunan ng ikabubuhay.

    subalit isang bagay na kanilang nakalimutan at patuloy (sigurong) kinakalimutan ay isang malaking kamalian ang paghahangad at pagtanggap ng karampot na pantawid gutom kapalit ang malinaw na habangbuhay na pagkagumon sa kahirapan bunga ng pagbibili nila ng kanilang karapatan sa maayos na pamumuhay.

    bago nila danasin ang tuluyang pagkabulid sa bangin ng walang hanggang kawalang pag-asa, isakripisyo ang isang araw na pagkagutom upang labanan ang salot tungo sa pag-ahon sa kumunoy ng pagkaalipin sa buktot na hangarin ng mga sukab na nasa poder na walang ginawa at gagawin kundi samantalahin ang kahinaan ng mga walang kakayahan upang habangbuhay (silang) manatili sa kapangyarihan at magpasasa sa kaban ng bayan.

  175. Yuko, please refrain from using curses. As I have said time and again, you can be strong in your views without resorting to foul language.

  176. Sorry, Ellen. I could not help getting ballistic again because of all these injustices. Will try to choose better words next time.

  177. MRivera, who is pangilinan?

  178. Magno is right!

    Boygee had asked for the transfer to Jolo because the heat was getting to him in Manila – he was one of the most hated junior officers then in GHQ. He thought he was Gen Boy Enrile Jr and was arrogant even to the generals. Gen Solquillo couldn’t stand the fellow and believe me Gen Solquillo was an amiable fellow.

    Gen Rudy Garcia as well as Gen Fred Garcia (CoS PA then) couldn’t stand Boygee either who flaunted the office of Boy Enrile as if he owned it. Gen Cris Balaoing kept his mouth shut but he used to tell me what an ass Pangilinan was!

    When he returned from the South sometime in 1998, he came to see me asking for intro to Gloria’s entourage. Rest is history!

  179. Ellen,

    Just read the report! Thanks.

    Seems to me there was nothing wrong! The 12 who pleaded guilty to violations in the Articles of War re conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman is alright!

    After all, they knew they’d had it – that’s not making baligtad.

    Unless they signed some kind of document re-stating today their admiration and love for Gloria, I don’t think there’s anything dishounourable in what the 12 did if you are to consider the basis of their incarceration and punishment.

    Let’s get things on their correct perspective: It’s not as if they went around raping and pillaging villages that got them incarcerated.

    All in all, they’re far more honourable even with their guilty plea than Esperon and Gloria’s Hello GArci generals and officers!

  180. chi chi

    Hindi naman pala nagsabing “we love you Gloria” ang 12 e. OK pa ‘yun, hindi sila bumaliktad!

    Hindi gaya ni kuya, bumaliktad at tumiwarik pa, o ayan abswelto dahil sa paghalik sa mabahong talampakan ng tianak!

    Buti na lang at “officer and gentlemen” ang kanyang mga juniors, kung ako ‘yan ay isasama ko s’ya sa impierno!

  181. Anna,the problem is Gambala et al (the 12) have signified their willingness to cooperate with Gloria. In fact, they said that what they did was wrong. They have turned their backs on the Magdalo.

    But they are still better than Lawrence San Juan who allowed himself to be used by the government against Trillanes. He pleaded guilty of conspiracy. The problem is he was the only one who did that. So, the question is, he conspired with whom?

    It’s different with the 54 (who had earlier struck a plea bargain). They did this after discussion with Trillanes and other leaders, who have not been coopted by Malacañang.

  182. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna,

    what i yelled was when pangilinan was still a second kamote. he used to boast of his being a peeemayer and an officer leaving a mark of insult on us, enlisted personnel. i was not assigned yet with the unit but i was able to monitor things after this goddamnsonofabitch pangilinan asked for transfer to manila.

    i learned afterwards that he was planned to be pinned down if he will again lead an operation.

    it was years after his relief when i met him and be part of a team under his leadership. that was new year’s eve, 1988 when i witnessed his arrogance as an officer cursing everyone who violated the camp policy of no firing of arms in celebrating the new year.

    kapwa sundalo niya, kahit opisyal lintek ang boawl out, ang lagapak ng goddamnit ni pangilinan.

    sa totoo lang matapang siya noon dahil kasama niya kami na dating mga kasamahan niya sa unit. sariwang panakot pa kami noon dahil bagong galing kami sa lanao del norte and lanao del sur. kapu-pull out lamang namin para mapabilang sa augmentation sa PACT brigade operating then in metro manila.

  183. Mrivera Mrivera

    kapwa sundalo niya, kahit opisyal lintek ang BAWL out, ang lagapak ng goddamnit ni pangilinan.

  184. Ellen,

    Re “problem is Gambala et al (the 12) have signified their willingness to cooperate with Gloria. In fact, they said that what they did was wrong. They have turned their backs on the Magdalo.”

    Ahhhh! That is altogether a different story! Absolutely different. Ok, I understand now that Gambala really somersaulted big time! In that case, shoot him for dishonouring the uniform if not for treachery and surrender to the enemy (Gloria and Esperon!) Sige, all out war na.

    Thanks, Ellen for the clarification!

  185. Hahahah!

    Magno, anong sinabi ni kamote?

  186. chi chi

    Binabawi ko ang aking sinabi sa unahan. Bagkus, lahat sina Gambala (the 12 na bumaliktad) ay isasama ko rin sa impierno!

    OK lang sana kung nag-plead guilty but not abandoning the Magdalo cause, or conniving with Gloria. Pero WEAKLINGS pala ang sina Gambala et al.

    Dahil sa kokonti na lang ang natira sa Magdalo na lumalaban pa rin, sifted na kaya lahat?!

  187. Magno,

    Re he used to boast of his being a peeemayer and an officer

    Turnback naman siya!

  188. Chi,

    “Pero WEAKLINGS pala ang sina Gambala et al.”

    Di lang weaklings, traydor todo pala! Anywhere in the world, in any military, you know what we they to traydors?

    They’re shot from behind by a firing squad!

  189. Cavorting with, aiding and abetting the enemy, i.e., Esperon and Gloria, is traydoran and may warrant the harshest military punishment, obscure as it may be to us all today: Death!

  190. There exists two AFPs today:

    The AFP of the brave and the honourable and the AFP of the surrender gang and the scoundrels.

    I dare say each component as it exists, AFP Brave vs AFP Scounder can charge the other according to the Articles of War.

    Let the battle begin!

  191. For the AFP Brave, I suggest they charge the AFP Scoundrels heade by Esperon with charges for doing a war of attrition on its own!

  192. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna,

    ang isang natatandaan ko na sinabi niya noon ay kung magsusundalo din lamang bakit hindi pumasok sa academy upang maging opisyal?

    para bang siya na lamang ang napakagaling samantalang ‘yung pinsan ko ay hindi ganu’n pati na rin ‘yung ibang aking nakilala at nakasama. bukod tanging si pangilinan lamang ang sobrang taas ng pagpapakilala sa sarili.

  193. Mrivera Mrivera

    “They’re shot from behind by a firing squad!”

    ganyan ang ginagawa sa mga sobrang yabang at abusado sa kapuwa at sa mga tao kapag merong combat operation. asahan na kapag merong nakasamang hindi karapatdapat sa tropa, sa ganti sa unang bugso ng putok ng kalaban, babaliktad ang hudas. unang casualty ang traydor.

    death justified by an after encounter report.

  194. Magno,

    Sana sinabi mo sa kanya, kung lahat ng putragis na AFP e puro opisyal, sino ang lalaban sa kaaway?

  195. chi chi

    Mrivera, “ang isang natatandaan ko na sinabi niya noon ay kung magsusundalo din lamang bakit hindi pumasok sa academy upang maging opisyal?”

    Ok lang kung ang mga opisyal din na tulad nila ay “ipinambabala” sa kanyon o ino-offer sa MILF for beheading!

  196. chi chi

    Ellen,

    The “No Regrets” space at Inquirer is still blank. Instead, I found this very good article, “Trillanes says he’s humbled by poll victory”.

    ***

    “Trillanes says he takes comfort in the thought that he will not be given a trial that he cannot handle.

    “It just gives me confidence that whatever happens, it’s supposed to happen,” he says.
    “If I’m destined to be cut to pieces, so be it. But if I’m not destined for that, they can’t do anything about it.

    “I have reached this point. Will I still doubt the strength of my conviction?”
    ***

    Wow, lalaking-lalaki sa conviction and courage! Go, go, go, Trillanes!

  197. Heheheh! Thanks for the link Ellen…

    I like this bit:

    “Acknowledging the “wrong” they did in Oakwood, Trillanes said, “We are not supposed to be there, at the most, it was alarm and scandal.””

    Hahahaha!

    So, OK para sa akin for them to ALL PLEAD GUILTY FOR VIOLATING a comma here and a period there in some of the provisions of the ARTICLES OF WAR!

    That will not be baligtaran (except of course the Dirty Dozen led by Gambala, Maestrocampo and San Juan… these perfidious officers ought to be kapon!)

  198. chi chi

    Oy, lumabas na Ellen. Thanks.

    Iba talaga si Trillanes pag nagsalita, malaman!

  199. Heheheheheh!

    Buti ka mo may sense of humour itong si Trillanes!

  200. chi chi

    Kung wala sila dun hindi sana natinag ang pagka-reyna ni Gloria sa EK. At wala akong kilala na may pangalang Senador Antonio Trillanes 1V ngayon, heheh!

    Kung meron pang babaligtad e gawin na ninyo at ng malaman namin kung sinu-sino ang isasama namin sa pagtatayo ng monumento!

  201. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Thanks, Ellen for the info on Aldrin. He was partly the reason why I was with the rally (that one where I missed the chance of talking to you personally)where we were trapped in PGH with some co-alumni.

  202. Mrivera Mrivera

    Ellen says: “…..They have turned their backs on the Magdalo.

    But they are still better than Lawrence San Juan who allowed himself to be used by the government against Trillanes.”

    ellen, walang anumang paliwanag na makasasalba sa kanilang pagiging traydor. magkakasama silang namuno sa pagpapaabot ng karaingan, dapat sama sama rin silang humarap sa anumang kahihinatnan ng kanilang ipinaglaban. dapat nilang alalahanin na sila ay mga opisyal at ang pagiging opisyal nila ang naging malakas na panghikayat kaya sumama sa kanila ang mga enlistedmen sa oakwood.

    paano kung nasa digmaan sila at ‘yung kaaway na pumapatay sa kalaban ang makahuli sa kanila? isasalba ang sarili kapalit ng buhay ng mga kasamahan?

  203. chi chi

    “paano kung nasa digmaan sila at ‘yung kaaway na pumapatay sa kalaban ang makahuli sa kanila? isasalba ang sarili kapalit ng buhay ng mga kasamahan?”

    Spoken like a true soldier! Tunay ka Mrivera, tunay kang sundalo ng Pilipinas, kahapon, ngayon at bukas!

  204. Mrivera Mrivera

    chi,

    naranasan ko na ang iligtas at sumaklolo sa kasama. nakakakilabot balikan ng alaala dahil ‘yung nagligtas sa akin ay nagbuwis din ng buhay at ‘yung inililigtas ko ay hindi nakasalba dahil sa naging grabeng tama ng bala.

    magkahiwalay na pangyayari subalit parehong malinaw pa sa aking gunita.

  205. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Magno,
    Parang naiintindihan ko na ngayon yung kwento ng isang dating clerk ko na ex-Marine. Kwento niya naka-tatlo o apat na daw ang napauwi niya kay Allah. Matapang diba, siyempre pa, Marine eh. Pero minsan sa isang engkwentro sa Sulu, nagkatitigan daw sila mata-sa-mata ng isang kalaban, matagal, tutukan pero walang nakaputok. Nagkailingan daw sila at sabay na lumakad palayo na walang lingunan. Nung tinamaan siya ng malaria, kahit magaling na siya ay naglalagay daw siya ng bawang sa puwit para magtagal sa district hospital. Nang madiskubre ng opisyal niya, na-discharge siya.

    Ang natutunan ko sa kuwento niya, kahit anong tapang ng isang tao, dumadating sa punto na may takot pa ring mananaig sa huli. Gaya mo, kinikilig pa rin siya sa kilabot pag naaalala niya yung mga nangyari sa kanya noon.

    Mukhang mabigat na dalahin yata ang pakikipag-digma ano?

  206. Mrivera Mrivera

    tongue,

    bawat isa naman ay hindi gustong makasakit o makamatay. damdaming magkadugo ang nangingibabaw. hindi takot ‘yun kundi pagsasaalang alang sa kapwa buhay.

    noon nga kapag kasama ako sa operation, ang dasal ko ay kung sakaling meron kaming makasagupang kalaban, huwag kaming makamatay at huwag din kaming mamatayan. ‘yun nga lang, dahil sa iyon ay larangan kailangang matira ang dapat mabuhay.

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