Basilan Marines commander relieved

The commander of the 1st Marine Brigade, Col. Ramiro Alivio, was relieved of his duties for staying in his headquarters while Marines clashed with around 80 Abu Sayyaf forces in Ungkawa Pukan town, Basilan last Aug.18.

AFP chief Gen. Hermogenes Esperon Jr. said Alivio’s relief was the decision of the Board of Generals.

Col. Rustico Guerrero, former chief of the Marine Corps Training Center based at the Marine headquarters in Fort Bonifacio, took over Alivio’s post in simple rites at the 1st Marine Brigade headquarters in Isabela City yesterday.

“I know that he (Alivio) can control the troops from where he was (in the headquarters) but I would have preferred that he be nearer to troops,” said Esperon.

Fifteen soldiers from the Force Recon class No. 13 on a test mission died and 10 were wounded.

The military claimed at least 42 Abu Sayyaf leaders and members died but troops recovered only seven bodies.

The military launched punitive actions last Aug. 13 against joint forces from the Abu Sayyaf, Moro Islamic Liberation Front and lawless elements in Basilan who ambushed 14 Marines and beheaded 10 of them in Al-Barka town.

Esperon said Task Force Thunder commander and Western Mindanao deputy chief Brig. Gen. Juancho Sabban was in charge of the whole operation as Army forces were also involved “but I wish Col. Alivio would have been more forward.” Alivio’s unit is under TF Thunder.

“We have to put in another commander in Basilan not because Col. Alivio failed in his job but I think we have to have a brigade commander that will be with the troops, that would prefer to be with the troops during operations,” he said.

“What we are after is more aggressive pursuit against the Abu Sayyaf in the area and so we believe that Col. Rustico Guerrero fits the bill,” said Esperon.

He said Alivio would be given a new position.

“We will put Col. Alivio in a position where his intelligence background will serve our organization best,” he said.

Alivio justified his decision, saying tactical matters on the ground should be handled by battalion commanders.

“The command and control is at the headquarters, it’s where the communication was,” said Alivio.

“I plan for the battalions. If the higher headquarters think that I was wrong, they should have reviewed my plans,” he said.

“Since the (relief) order is already out, we have to respect it. It’s a sigh of relief. It’s a great unburden on my part,” he said. – Victor Reyes

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August 23, 2007 6:32 am   Posted in: Military

50 Responses

  1. gokusen - August 23, 2007 6:55 am

    Eh, bakit dun ko napost sa kabilang thread yung comment ko…dapat pala dito…teka copy paste ko na lang…

  2. gokusen - August 23, 2007 7:01 am

    1. gokusen Says:
    August 23rd, 2007 at 5:42 am
    THE commander of the 1st Marine Brigade, Col. Ramiro Alivio, was relieved of his duties for staying in his headquarters while Marines clashed with around 80 Abu Sayyaf forces in Ungkawa Pukan town, Basilan last Aug.18.
    AFP chief Gen. Hermogenes Esperon Jr. said Alivio’s relief was the decision of the Board of Generals.
    Col. Rustico Guerrero, former chief of the Marine Corps Training Center based at the Marine headquarters in Fort Bonifacio, took over Alivio’s post in simple rites at the 1st Marine Brigade headquarters in Isabela City yesterday.
    “I know that he (Alivio) can control the troops from where he was (in the headquarters) but I would have preferred that he be nearer to troops,” said Esperon.
    Fifteen soldiers from the Force Recon class No. 13 on a test mission died and 10 were wounded.
    The military claimed at least 42 Abu Sayyaf leaders and members died but troops recovered only seven bodies.
    - – - -
    hmmm, eh ba’t nga di siya mag-stay sa loob ng airconditioned room niya, mainit at saka di nga ba sinasabi na kayang-kaya ang mga kalaban..as in “sisiw” lang sa kanila yung mga ‘yun…tapos sila pa lang ang “sisiw” lang sa kalaban.. eh sino ngayon ang lahing “texas” o “labuyo” sa labanan…
    ang administration, lagi na lang kapag napalpak may pagbabalingan ng sisi..sisihin din nila dapat yung aircon sa room dahil kundi sa dulot nitong lamig eh, di mamatay yung mga batang opisyales..
    ano nga ‘lit un..”i know he (alivio) can control the troops from where he was…ano yun ginagamitan niya ng “remote control(alivio) yung mga sundal, nakalimutan niya sigurong palitan ‘yung battery ng remote control kaya nag-stop at di nakakilos , dapat binigyan ng general espiron ng maraming “rechargeable batteries” para tumagal ang buhay nung remote control at di napatay yung mga sundalo…pang toy story lang pala ‘yung utak netong si alivio..dapat di siya pumasok sa militar dun siya nagtrabaho sa dreamworks ng disney may pakinabang pa sa kanya..

  3. gokusen - August 23, 2007 7:02 am

    1. gokusen Says:
    August 23rd, 2007 at 5:48 am
    The military claimed at least 42 Abu Sayyaf leaders and members died but troops recovered only seven bodies
    - – -
    eh claimed nyo lang pala, pero sabi nyo nga “at least” 42 abu leaders , pero 7 lang na-recovered niyong katawan..ano ngang petsa yung 18 ano…palagay ko yun ang natandaan na numero ng nagsabing opisyales kasi yun ang tinayaan niyang numero sa lotto..42, 7, 18 , 15, 10 tingnan natin pag tumama yan mga numero na yan at irambol pa..pag lumabas may tumama check natin baka isa dun sa mga magagaling na general..baka si gen. ermita manalo ah…

  4. gokusen - August 23, 2007 7:02 am

    1. gokusen Says:
    August 23rd, 2007 at 6:00 am
    He said Alivio would be given a new position.
    “We will put Col. Alivio in a position where his intelligence background will serve our organization best,” he said.
    - – -
    new position? promotion malamang…binulungan si alivio, “sige aalisin ka namin jan kasi tun ang rekomendado ng board pero wag ka mag-alala ipromote kita ..” ilalagay sa intelligence saan sa Isafp o nica? did siya pede sa mig 21 makakalaban niya dun grupo ng mga kasamahan dati ni doble..kwidaw pag sa intelligence siya nilagay alisin na lang natin yung “i-n-t-e-l at palitan ng “n-e-g” at ikabit dun sa natirang “g-e-n-c-e” resulta “negligence” yun pa baka dun pede siyang manguna at maging lider at pangunahan ang mga kasamahan niya sa “negligence group”

  5. gokusen - August 23, 2007 7:03 am

    1. chi Says:
    August 23rd, 2007 at 6:09 am
    Gokusen,
    E kung mamatay s’ya (Alivio), di wala na s’yang kaparte sa hantingan ng ulo! Gago rin ano? Kaya pala namatay ang mga pobreng marines.
    Tapos ay sasabihin ni Asspweron, “I know that he (Alivio) can control the troops from where he was (in the headquarters) but I would have preferred that he be nearer to troops,” said Esperon.
    Namatay ang mga batang marines dahil nagkukukakoy lang sa airconditioned office si Alivio, tapos ito lang ang sinabi ni Ass at bibigyan ng bagong assignment. Onli in da Pilipins!
    Kung ganyang takot mamatay at walang disiplina ang mga senior officers, kahit magpadala pa sila ng buong sandatahan sa Mindanao ay hindi sila mananalo.

  6. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 23, 2007 8:29 am

    Ang tawag ko diyan intellidiot!

  7. Valdemar - August 23, 2007 8:34 am

    How I wish they change sword at every turnover of command which will be used for harakiri. This is a very honorable stamp for mistakes or even doubts. Normally, many people of HQs rank are already consolidating their wealth and greencards for their imminent exit. The harakiri should also follow the chain of command upwards. That will give the braves a chance to go up.

  8. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 23, 2007 9:02 am

    Valdemar,
    When Alivio was interviewed by a reporter, he said “History will bail me out”.

    Does he know something significant enough that will happen soon to merit historical mention? Hmmm…

  9. gokusen - August 23, 2007 9:11 am

    TT,

    bakit..history will bail Alivio out? sasabihin ba ng history how great man he is…nek nek niya di siya si Marcos..! Si marcos “dynamic leader” di dumanak ang dugo ng maraming pilipino …ngayon sa kanya dumadanak dugo ng kapwa niya sundalo..pano siya bail ng history?

  10. ystakei - August 23, 2007 9:17 am

    No bilib ako sa mga naglilingkod sa mga katulad ni Gloria Maldita. Alam na nga nilang kriminal, bakit ba ayaw pa nilang arestuhin. Hindi naman kailangan ang impeachment sa totoo lang sa katakot-takot na violation niya ng Election Code na nagsasabi naman na ang isang kandidato kapag nandaya ay puede naman i-disquaify, and since in principle she was no longer an official of the government by the time she ran for office, and since at the time she ran for the presidency she was merely an acting president, she can be in principle disqualified outright. Kaya ano bang kung ano-ano pang kabulastugan na interpretation ang ginagawa sa batas lalo na sa Pilipinas na hindi marunong mahiya ang mga nakaupo. Dapat iyan ang inaasikaso ng mga binoto ng bayan. Ang ipairal ang batas!!! Hindi iyong concern lang sila sa pork barrel nila.
    Kawawang bansa! Ang daming mayabang! Bobo naman!

  11. gokusen - August 23, 2007 9:19 am

    Yuko,

    tama ka..di ba ka implement pa lang ng “Human Act” eh pasok na pasok dun si gma..bakit di i-apply yung batas sa kanya…!

  12. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 23, 2007 9:21 am

    Gokusen,
    He must know something we don’t that would prove he wasn’t sleeping on the job. And probably it will be announced in a dramatic way, hence, historical. Watch out.

  13. goji - August 23, 2007 10:09 am

    FYI:

    Former President Joseph Estrada, through his Saludo sa Kawal Foundation Inc., donated yesterday R500,000 in financial assistance to each of the families of the 14 Marines ambushed, 10 of them later beheaded, in Basilan last July 10 and two Philippine Army soldiers killed in a gunbattle with New People’s Army rebels in Gubat, Sorsogon last Aug. 18.

    In a ceremony at the Padilla Room of the Senate in Pasay City, Senate President Pro Tempore Jose “Jinggoy” Ejercito Estrada distributed the plaques of appreciation and checks from the foundation equally either to the fathers, mothers, or wives of the slain Marines and Army soldiers.

    The foundation gave P150,000 to Sonia Panaga, mother of slain Corporal Russel S. Panaga of Camarines Sur. Panaga’s legal wife, Marilou, was given P150,000 while Panaga’s two other wives, Teresa Ongque and Maribel Bitangcor, were given P150,000 each.

  14. gokusen - August 23, 2007 10:12 am

    TT,

    meaning magiging “boy who cried wolf” din siya? eh pang children din yun..magiging “pinocchio” siya na pag nagsinungaling hahaba din ilong niya…well whatever justifications he made…ang tao ginawa binigyan ng pag-iisip at ng puso , sa mataas na parte ng katawan/ulo nilagay ang utak, at ang puso sa gitna ng katawan..dahil mas mataas ang pag-iisip pero puso pa rin ang nagbibigay ng damdamin sa utak.! Utak ang nagdidikta kung ano dapat isipin at gawin, pero puso ang nagsasabi ng kung ano ang pakiramdam.Pero mas dapat parehong ginagamit ang puso at utak…sana habang iniisip niya na nandun ang mga tauhan niya at nakaupo lang siya sa kanyang malamig na kuwarto, pinakiramdaman niya ang damdamin ng mga sundalong pinabayaan nilang salakayin ng mga buwitre…!

  15. Valdemar - August 23, 2007 10:15 am

    Of course the boss has to save a little face on a whim of kicking out someone after all those noisy barrages we create in the blogs. Surprisingly, not one of his underlings told him he has nothing on (his head). I dont think there’s nothing much more significant he knows more than what you and I know. But lets wait when the code of silence wears off. Sayang at baka madelay ang pag-empake niya and his family for the land of honey.

  16. gokusen - August 23, 2007 10:17 am

    goji,

    well, yun ang pinagkaiba ni erap sa ibang presidente…di man mataas ang pinagaralan pero may magandang kalooban..sayang na nga lang at namatay si fpj dahil kung buhay ito dalawa silang may ginintuang puso na gagawa muna bago magsalita…! sana sen. jinggoy can follow the beating of his father’s compassionate heart!

  17. goji - August 23, 2007 10:23 am

    Gokusen, Estrada’s Muslim Foundation has been in existence since he was the President not just now and not for publicity.
    He organized it with his son-in-law Beaver Lopez. Many soldiers have benefited from the Foundation even when he was still the President. Estrada has been accused of plunder. But to me, he’s better than other crooks who pocketed all the money they stole. Estrada to me is like the modern day Robin Hood.

  18. goji - August 23, 2007 10:26 am

    A little clarification, I mentioned Muslim Foundation instead of Foundation for the Soldiers. To my knowledge, there are such two Foundations he organized when he was the President. Muslims and soldiers alike all benefit from the two.

  19. chi - August 23, 2007 10:55 am

    What kind of a commander is Alivio, scared of enemy. Naihi yata sa pantalon si Alivio sa takot sa gera-gerahan ni Gloria.

    Super bait naman si Gloria at Asspweron kay Alivio, bibigyan pa ng ibang assignment. Sigurado ay promoted pa ‘yan.

  20. chi - August 23, 2007 11:01 am

    “Ang tawag ko diyan intellidiot!”

    Tongue, ikaw talaga.

    Hahahaha! Masakit ang panga ko sa katatawa!

  21. chi - August 23, 2007 11:04 am

    Gokusen,

    You meant Human Security Act (HSA)? E hindi naman human si Gloria kaya hindi siya sakop niyan!

  22. chi - August 23, 2007 11:06 am

    Yes, Tongue, mukhang merong alam si Alivio na magiging na masasama sa history ng Pinas. Abangan, natuturete na ang EK!

  23. chi - August 23, 2007 11:09 am

    “The foundation gave P150,000 to Sonia Panaga, mother of slain Corporal Russel S. Panaga of Camarines Sur. Panaga’s legal wife, Marilou, was given P150,000 while Panaga’s two other wives, Teresa Ongque and Maribel Bitangcor, were given P150,000 each.”

    ***

    Ganyan ang hatian, walang mag-aaway kahit maraming asawa ang namatay.

    Congrats, Erap!

    Thanks, goji.

  24. ystakei - August 23, 2007 11:15 am

    Gokusen:

    Iyong sinasabi mong charity ni Erap para sa Moslems, alam ko iyan kasi na-involve sa fundraising ang isang doctor na kakilala ko diyan. Tumahimik na nga lang nang mawala si Erap. Iyong paring kaibigan ko in charge naman doon sa charity for the Tala outpatients. Lahat funded ng mga foundation na itinayo ni Erap kaya sinong may sabing nag-plunder siya? Mas bilib pa ako kung sinabing “bribery” that Singson tried to do to destroy him dahil balak na talaga ng mga dorobo na siraan siya.

  25. gokusen - August 23, 2007 11:20 am

    Chi,

    eh si erap pa..he pratice what he preach..kahit ilan ang asawa niya pare-parehas ang hatian, kaya ganun din ang ipapakita niya sa mga katulad sa naulila ni Corporal Panaga at iba pa na maraming asawa lalo na nga at muslim na ok ang maraming asawa basta pare-parehas sa lahat!
    sa totoo lang may puso si pres. erap! pusong tao..di pusu-pusuan..*punchline” my ina always sing this lullaby to me nung bata pa ako the lyrics …” di baga maraming puso sa sagingan..may pusong saba at pusong latundan..may pusong dalaga at pusu-pusuan..may pusong tapat at pusong salawahan..ngunit ang puso ng magulang ..ang siyang tunay na pagmamahal…(fade)” si gma pusong saging yan eh…ewan lang kung saba, latundan o yung saging na sinasabi ni “yuko”…

  26. Mrivera - August 23, 2007 2:40 pm

    ‘langya! ‘yung kumander na nagpakatay sa kanyang mga tauhan ay relieved lamang at bibigyan pa ng another more juicy position to satisfy the bruha’s greed tailing her political enemies while the junior officers were dishonorably discharged for standing up against the prevailing corruption within the military as well as the national leadership.

    mga ‘ayup sila!

  27. parasabayan - August 23, 2007 2:56 pm

    Magno,ironic talaga! Yung opisyal na nagpabaya may promosion pa at ang mga sundalong may paninindigan nawalan ng pwesto. Iisa lang ang ibig sabihin nyan. Sa tiyanak EK kingdom, ang tanong sa interview ay: Marunong ka bang magnakaw? Magsinungaling? Pumatay ng kapwa? At pag ang isinagot ay OO, pasok kaagad sa trabaho! Kaya nga sila Trillianes, Faeldon, Gen Miranda, Gen Lim, Col Querubin at ang mga ibang magigiting na sundalong nakakulong ngayon ay hinahangaan ng mga nakararaming sundalo dahil itong mga ito ay may mga prinsipyo. Tutal naman, kung nasa labas sila mapipilitan silang sumunod sa mga Garci Generals. Chain of command ika nga! Yuck!

  28. parasabayan - August 23, 2007 3:33 pm

    Col Alivio replaced Col Querubin as the 1st Brigade Commander after the latter got detained. So, most of the first batch of marines who got killed were Col Querubin’s men.

  29. gokusen - August 23, 2007 4:19 pm

    PSB,

    Insulto nga yun eh, si alivio pinalit kay querubin, isipin mo isang magiting na colonel ng marine, may medal o valor..tapos ang pumalit kahit “tansan” yata wala nakuha sa kagitingan…dun pa sa intelligence nanggaling..anong alam niya sa field..?
    tapos habang lumalaban sa mga abu yung mga batang sundalo, siya nagpapasarap lang! tapos sasabihin history will bail him!

  30. AK-47 - August 23, 2007 5:15 pm

    “What we are after is more aggressive pursuit against the Abu Sayyaf in the area and so we believe that Col. Rustico Guerrero fits the bill,” said Esperon.
    ********

    general esperon, no one among your men except those officers you have put to jail could satisfy the wish of everyone to decimate if not eliminate the “real enemies” of the state, rather than feeding the lives of “our poor soldiers”(not yours) and killing inocent civilians in a mocking war just for your self-interest.

  31. Mrivera - August 23, 2007 5:42 pm

    sino may sabi sa inyong walang medalya si alivio? tinyente pa lang yan marami ng awards and decorations na natanggap. heto:

    1. mindanao-sulu campaign medal and typewiter ribbon

    2. several paid letters of commendation from different commnaders and community leaders.

    3. several military commmendation medals with fork spearhead

    4. 2 gold plated cross medals

    5. 1 distinguished conduct star unbecoming of an officer

    6. 1 distinguished service star of the night award

    7. 1 secret medal of valor for unknown gallantry in a make believe combat operations somewhere in mars

    dami niyan di ba?

    oooppssss, nakalimutan ko. meron pala siyang tatlong wounded personnel medal for wounds inflicted by his carelesness while shaving his moustache. hindi na kasama ‘yung sugat nu’ng siya ay tinule.

  32. BLACK KNIGHT - August 23, 2007 6:25 pm

    Ellen,

    A good military command reflects good leadership from the unit commander. Aside from accomplishing his mission, he must be firm, decisive, uncompromising, and must possess the “audacity” to fight and defeat the enemy. But let us study the following commanders who are now assigned and about to be assigned in Mindanao:
    1) LtGen Cedo, the present WestMinCom (formerly Southcom) Commander is from Luzon but he is married to a lady from Zamboanga City. The wife’s family is residing in Zamboanga City. I heard he is going to turn-over his command on September 1
    2) BGen Sabban, his deputy commander, is also married to a lady from Zamboanga City. The wife’s family is residing in Zamboanga City.
    3) Col Alivio, the Phil Marine Commander in Basilan is also married to a Muslim lady from Sulo. I am glad he is finally relieved from Basilan.
    4) MajGen Pajarito, Commander of the 1st Infantry Division, is married to a lady from Zamboanga City and his family resides there.
    5) MajGen Allaga, the present PhilMarine Commandant and incoming WestminCom Commander, had been in Mindanao for more than 25 years that he developed close ties with the local politicians, businessmen, and smugglers in the area. I am trying to research if he is also married to a lady from Mindanao.
    6) MajGen Dolorfino, the incoming PhilMarine Commandant, is married to a Muslim who is a relative of Nur Misuari.
    7) LtGen Yano, the incoming Commanding General of the Phil Army, is also from Zamboanga del Norte. His parents and relatives are still living in Mindanao.

    Now, knowing the family ties/connections of these Commanders in the area, I doubt their effectiveness to be good commanders/leaders to defeat the enemy in Mindanao. I believe that these commanders don’t have the “balls” to do what is supposed to be done because they need to protect first their family and friends. God bless our soldiers!

    Ellen, I hope I am wrong.

  33. chi - August 23, 2007 9:58 pm

    Oi, Gokusen, my grandpa used to sing that lullaby to me every night before closing my eyes. Ulila kasi ako sa nanay 3 years old pa lang at palaki ng lolo. Ang sarap pakinggan!

    Ang puso ni Gloria ay itim, pusong demonyo!

  34. chi - August 23, 2007 10:01 pm

    # parasabayan Says:

    August 23rd, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    Col Alivio replaced Col Querubin as the 1st Brigade Commander after the latter got detained. So, most of the first batch of marines who got killed were Col Querubin’s men.
    ***

    Ow, kaya pala umiiyak si Col. Q. Namatayan siya ng mga anak at kaibigan. Hayyyy….

  35. chi - August 23, 2007 10:07 pm

    “…knowing the family ties/connections of these Commanders in the area, I doubt their effectiveness to be good commanders/leaders to defeat the enemy in Mindanao. I believe that these commanders don’t have the “balls” to do what is supposed to be done because they need to protect first their family and friends. God bless our soldiers!

    ***

    With these connections, we can’t expect something good to happen in Mindanao! Let’s just pray for our soldiers.

    Thanks, BK, for the significant info.

  36. goji - August 23, 2007 10:19 pm

    Chi, we may have something in common…I grew up under my grandma’s care (yours was grandpa). My grandma died in my arms in the hospital…and I still miss her until this day. Many years have passed and I still dream about her. Many say grandparents take care of the grandchildren better than the latter’s parents. In my case, I can say the statement is correct.

  37. ystakei - August 24, 2007 1:00 am

    BK:   Now, knowing the family ties/connections of these Commanders in the area, I doubt their effectiveness to be good commanders/leaders to defeat the enemy in Mindanao. I believe that these commanders don’t have the “balls” to do what is supposed to be done because they need to protect first their family and friends. God bless our soldiers!

    *****

    It’s called “conflict of interest.” It is not usually right to be assigning people there with blood connections undoubtedly. The temptation to be personal and have vested interest is strong. The leaders there should have been wiser as a matter of fact, but then, they actually are more interested in not doing what’s right for the people but what’s right for their pockets!!! Hay, buhay! Depressing!

  38. chi - August 24, 2007 1:03 am

    Goji and Gokusen,

    Yeah, my beloved grandpa died in my arms, too. I still talked to him in my prayers, can’t thank him enough.

    Anyway, I really admire what Erap is doing to the families of the fallen soldiers. Maybe, if we could only turn back the hands of time, majority of those who connived to unconstitutionally throw him out of the presidency would instead hail him.

    With Gloria’s kapalpakans, I can appreciate Erap better.

  39. goji - August 24, 2007 3:41 am

    There are those whose aunties also died in their arms, Chi. I
    don’t meant to ridicule anyone but it hurts if someone does in your arms. That feeling lasts very long most often carries with you until you die too.

  40. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 24, 2007 4:46 am

    I was not just playing devil’s advocate and was not trying to make Alivio look good. What I’m saying is, Alivio is giving us a hint when he said history will bail him out.

    It could be that he knew beforehand that they were going to be “delivered” to the exact ambuscade point. His staying behind would give him more maneuverability in regard to providing backup and other tactical alternatives when the inevitable comes.

    I have reason to believe Alivio doubted info from higher-ups that Bossi was really in Basilan and he sensed trouble early on. As Black Knight says, Alivio is from Sulu, and surely knows much which territory belongs to whom in Basilan and Sulu. But orders are orders and he followed despite his misgivings.

    Further, the fact that air support came, and two waves at that, and howitzers were fired though limited, means he was communicating with both ground troops in Al-Barka and the generals in Westmincom and was directing operations remotely, which is not at all uncommon. We now know that the air strike and the howitzers were later countermanded. And much later, the beheading of troopers.

    Also, the first pronouncements coming from the AFP itself plus some media footage gave us the impression that the troops were all neophytes, that the radio frequency provided the planes was wrong, that the planes and choppers could not locate the troops or the enemies. We got the real score only days later when Sabban and Alivio were interviewed and cleared many things we were blaming them with earlier.

    My theory is that Alivio knew something was very wrong and his intincts dictated that he stay behind instead of getting trapped in enemy territory and be at the mercy of Westmincom. Or the enemies. He was confident he was proven right after the long lull produced headless troopers and after his calls for land and air support were approved first then countermanded. He isn’t giving any details, and the AFP isn’t divulging the results of their investigation either.

    He must have been silenced by higher-ups but still allowed to save face by getting “kicked upstairs”. He won’t be telling us “history” himself, for sure.

    What sez our military analysts? Can’t wait for the Trillanes inquiry!

  41. Ellen - August 24, 2007 5:21 am

    Sorry, BK, for the typo error.

  42. neonate - August 24, 2007 5:24 am

    When things go wrong, the protocol in the army is a traditional chain reaction:
    The furious general chews out the colonel, the colonel reams the major, the major scolds the captain, the captain rails at the lieutenant, the lieutenant berates the sergeant who in turn stomps on the private.
    The private kicks his dog.

  43. chi - August 24, 2007 6:04 am

    Kuha ko, Tongue.

    Iyong article ni Ellen (new thread) speaks a lot. Halata na natatakot ang EK kay Col Alivio kaya bibigyan nila ng another good assignment siguro.

  44. parasabayan - August 24, 2007 6:11 am

    Toungue,very good analysis, indeed. I believe that Alivio knows something but because he is still in service, as usual, ala-Doble muna. Silence muna siya until he retires. This is a usual occurence in the military, those who know the illegal operations opt to be quiet while they are in service. It is the safest way to insure their personal safety and that of their family. Imagine any of the 120,000 men in uniform possibly liquidating you at any point(at one of the general’s orders) plus the hired goons! This is a powerful force to be afraid of! Kahit na pinakamatapang na kawal, manginginig ito sa takot dahil hindi niya alam kung sino ang kalaban niya!

  45. parasabayan - August 24, 2007 6:12 am

    Neonate…heh,heh,heh…totoong totoo and “chain of anger” mo! Kawawang aso, masakit yung tadyak ah!

  46. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 24, 2007 6:51 am

    Good, Chi.

    Thanks, PSB.

    Neonate, probably more than half of those 120,000 men are privates. I’d like to see them all at the same time, kick the “sleeping dogs” where they lie!

  47. Valdemar - August 24, 2007 8:09 am

    Black Knight,
    In their virgin years, those officers were assigned in the south. We all agree those garlands in Zamboanga and pearls in Sulu are more exquisitely beautiful around their necks. Like many cadets in Baguio nursed beyond their stint there. Relations also do not prove anything if my two uncles were at the top hierchy of the NPA. I nearly got waylaid there by a beautiful mestiza. What I would question is if expats lead our soldiers to their doom or meddle somewhat.

  48. goji - August 24, 2007 9:01 pm

    Valdemar, AFP’s practice was indeed to assign new recruits and fresh PMA/ROTC graduates to Mindanao to give them baptism of fire. But, that’s if you don’t have “padrino”. If one has connection within AFP and know some politicians, he gets assigned at better post. Sometimes, those who can afford pay off the AFP personnel. Juicy posts are those assigned as Generals’ aides, politicians’ security chief, in major command offices, AFP Headquarter, PSG, Malacanang. These favored few also get promoted faster than the others. That’s why corruption starts early for many of these officers.

  49. ystakei - August 25, 2007 4:51 am

    TT:

    Kahit na bigyan o hindi si Alivio ng mas magandang position, dapat siyang pumiyak. Otherwise, kung magsasalita siya dahil hindi tinupad ang pangako sa kaniya, talagang sourgraping lang siya, at mahirap paniwalaan o gamitin ang testimony niyan dahil puedeng bumaligtad pa ulit. Ano ba iyong sabi da, “weder-weder” daw? Yuck!

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