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Today’s Inquirer editorial

The articulate secretary of the cabinet, Ricardo Saludo, has taken the Inquirer to task for allegedly “misreporting” on a statement he issued the other day and perpetrating “occasional but prominent distortions” in our headlines.

His original statement, one of several he issued on Jan. 24, dealt with the current vexed relationship between the police and media; it is short enough to reproduce in full: “The front pages and the airwaves are not the places to resolve the issue of safely covering conflict situations, and any allegations of civilian misconduct during the Manila Peninsula uprising. Both sides should discuss guidelines to ensure public safety in media coverage of dangerous events. And let due process, not trial by publicity, be applied to any evidence and charges of unlawful acts during the uprising.”

Saludo may quarrel with the instinctive reaction of any independent journalist to read a chilling context into these lines—but how else should Philippine media react, when both practitioners and news organizations have been on the receiving end of the Arroyo administration’s blunt and increasingly short stick? Saludo’s statement is itself tagged or labeled in Malacañang’s own press release as “On police vs. media.”

The context is telling: The statement is yet another encounter in the cold war the administration is waging against the press. Like Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez’s controversial “reminder” to journalists that if they get in the way of the authorities during an emergency they will be liable for obstruction of justice, Saludo’s statement damns with its coy use of ostensibly neutral language.

In fact, it is not the press that has resorted to “trial by publicity.”

Let us take a second look at the latest developments—as journalists, unfortunately, have not kicked the habit of saying—in the police vs. media controversy.

It was the police that floated the tantalizing report that a “lady reporter” had helped mutineer Nick Faeldon escape from the Peninsula Manila at the height of the Trillanes takeover. It was the police that spread the word that an incriminating videotape showed the reporter in the act of helping the fugitive. It was the police that allowed the leaks about possible “suspects”—first Malaya columnist Ellen Tordesillas, and then ABS-CBN anchor Ces Drilon and finally wire reporter Dana Batnag—to sate the thirst it had knowingly caused. And it was the police that played coy about the evidentiary nature of the videotape, after the tape self-evidently failed to prove anything.

In other words, it was the police that smeared both the institution—the media as a profession—and the individual—Tordesillas, Drilon, then Batnag, now twisting in the wind—with the broad brush of publicity.

Perhaps Saludo was taking aim at the Philippine National Police? A second look at his statement tells us that the crucial third sentence squarely addresses the issue of evidence, such as the supposedly damning videotape. “And let due process, not trial by publicity, be applied to any evidence and charges of unlawful acts during the uprising.”

As it turns out, the police do not have a solid case against Batnag. After insinuating that the videotape in its possession would prove the reporter’s crime beyond a doubt, the police now say it only forms part of the evidence, and the case remains a work in progress. The damage, however, has been done. Cynically exploiting the natural inclination of journalists to run after the big story, the police manipulated the reporter-helps-fugitive angle in an obvious attempt to turn public opinion against the media.

Now that the police have turned the public spotlight on media again, should journalists simply wait for the courts to decide that the police had done them grievous wrong? (Note that the police have not yet filed any case in this controversy.) That is the gist of Saludo’s advice. But it runs counter to the role media must play in a democracy: It asks media to stop reporting on police allegations (against journalists themselves), and merely wait for the courts—if and when they are invited to take part—to decide. This is all wrong; it is not the role of media to commit suicide.

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300 Comments

  1. O baka di alam ni Saludo na malakas din sa foreign press si Macasaet. Baka banatan na sila ng foreign press at mga international press organizations na puedeng matakot iyong publicity agent ni Unano na binabayaran nila for her publicity gimmick.

    Ito na siguro ang beginning to the end. Sana nga para matapos na ang mga kawalanghiyaan ni Gloria Dorobo and Company!

  2. ….beginning of the end…

  3. ace ace

    “Cynically exploiting the natural inclination of journalists to run after the big story, the police manipulated the reporter-helps-fugitive angle in an obvious attempt to turn public opinion against the media.”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This is a case of “trial by delayed publicity” employed by the police.

  4. DJBRIZALIST DJBRIZALIST

    But the Media IS committing suicide in the eyes of the Public by insisting it was right to get underfoot at the Manila Peninsula.

    The right to know is NOT higher than the right to life.

    Every freedom is composed of a Right and Duty. The ranking or priority given to our Right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness are determined by the corresponding Duty.

    Consider: a waiter, a cop and a journalist.

    All have Freedom of Speech and Religion,. But notice that Press Freedom is mainly enjoyed by journalists, whose Duty is to be fair and objective and to be as unobtrusive as possible.

    All have a Right to Life, but who has the main duty to protect and preserve it by upholding the Law and arresting criminals? The cops.

    If any journalist had so much as gotten a scratch at the Manila Pen, it is simply incredible to claim that the media would’ve taken it all as their own responsibility. You guyz would’ve declared word war. Ooops you did anyway!

    You poor victims of fascism. Imagine. You have to cover possible scenes of carnage from 50 meters away,not 5 centimeters.

    But does anyone seriously think Journalists have more rights than Ordinary Citizens to find stuff out?

    Can the spring of noble, good intentions rise higher than the source in Freedom of Speech?

  5. ace ace

    “And let due process, not trial by publicity, be applied to any evidence and charges of unlawful acts during the uprising.” – Ricardo Saludo

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Talking of “due process”,where are the cases filed against these journalists? What is keeping this government agencies from filing the pertinent case in court? What happened at the Manila Pen is for the courts to decide but cases must be filed first.

  6. rose rose

    Ang gusto seguro ni Saludo..sasaludo ang media sa kanya at sa kanyang reyna…”mekeni ito ang buri ko”. Incidentally kabalen ba si Saludo o taga Pangasinan?

  7. balweg balweg

    RE: Every freedom is composed of a Right and Duty.

    DJB,

    The whole nation believe in the democractic principles as you said that’s freedom of every individuals, but do you think that your present gov’t regime followed and respected it.

    Could you explain to us about their hard-headed coup détat done last 2001. Do you mean that your good President respected the Constitution and 11 million Pinoyzki who majoritiy voted freely our legitime President Erap.

    Ang bagay na idinaan sa masama eh walang kapayapaang nag-aantay at remember “KARAM” and judgment nag-aantay sa kanila after the end of their duty.

  8. klingon klingon

    The problem is that the PNP wants a dirty war. No cases, no real investigation. Hell, no real work. Just insinuation and innuendo. If media were to do that, they’d be slapped with a libel suit. If the cops do that, where do we go? All they will say is that it is public information that they are conducting an investigation. Who can second guess the existence of such an investigation?

    But such a dirty war presupposes that the public is ignorant and stupid and cant see through the sly. malicious remarks. We’re onto them, and they know it. Saludo is just trying to throw more sand in our eyes.

  9. balweg balweg

    KA Rose, sa pangalan na lang na Saludo eh ang ibig sabihin loyal yang kay GMA, kaya todo pagtatanggol sa kanyang Bosing.

    Dapat mag-join hand ang taga-Media at Katipunero para matapos na ang EK standof na ito? At wag nang pagtagalin pa kasi morethan 7-years nang naghihirap ang mga Pinoyzki at grabe na ang corruption sa gov’t at dissolution na ang Masang Pilipino.

    Tutal nga pala eh matiisin ang mga Pinoyzki kaya ngising ANO ang Arroyo regime na aabutin nila ang 2010 at baka humirit pa kasi hawak siya sa leeg ng Tabako junta.

  10. zen2 zen2

    Merong ngang nagtanong dito, kung bakit ang Pinoy media ay siyang naging balita, imbes daw, sa nakagawiang tagapag-hatid lamang ng balita.

  11. DJBRIZALIST DJBRIZALIST

    Balweg,
    The issue is Manila Pen. The Media have managed to make themselves the Message. That is SO wrong. They’ve gone off the rails. The Right to Know is accompanied by the Freedom of choice. No journalist should assume that their story is so impt that the Public is even interested in it.

    The ineluctable fact is that journalists,or their owners, must SELL the information to those who WANT to know that particular bit of knowledge.

    There isn’t anything sacred about Journalism. It is a commercial enterprise like selling taho. Thus the Right to Find Out Stuff at an ongoing coup d’etat so you can sell the morning headline or evening news cast is exactly equivalent in rights to the taho vendors to sell their wares.

    So here is a “moral equivalence test” based on Father Bernas’ dictum that a Journalist has no more rights than an ordinary citizen.

    What journalists say about themselves ought to apply to taho vendors too.

    if they say journalists can cross the Police Yellow Line or disobey police, we should accept it only if we can accept the same statement for taho vendors.

    if journalists are allowed to interfere with police so they can sell their slanted news and stranger views, then so should taho vendors.

    if that makes sense to you then you would agree with the Philippine Daily Innuendo’s editorial.

  12. DJBRIZALIST DJBRIZALIST

    On Dana Batnag…I find it hilarious that the editorial blames the Cops for the story growing legs and crawling all over the underskirts of the Mass Media Moguls and Mavens. Let them have a taste of their own medicine: Enfusion of Innuendo. But the inescapable [sic!] fact is that a Rebel Putschist named Nick Faeldon escaped in the confusion and hullaballoo which the Media helped to create. The journalists may not care about that, but the Cops have to send a posse after him. Again.

    Why is the Media being so reluctant to admit it made a mistake at Manila Pen? Are they afraid the Public will see their Feet of Clay?

    As for the editorial claiming it is the cops picking a fight, that’s like the Sabongero wondering why the cocks are fighting.

  13. zen2 zen2

    …paano naman kasi, ayaw na ng mga mambabasa ang mga lumang balita.

    halimbawa, balita pa ba ang mga malawakang pangungurakot sa gobyerno?

    balita pa ba ang malawakan at sistematikong pagpaslang sa sambayanang hindi sumasang-ayon?

    balita pa ba na ang mga dating lider-estudyante, o ang mga intelektwal at lider ng NGO/NPO, anduon na’t nakisayaw na sa mga kabalbalan ng liderato ng gobyerno?

    balita pa ba ang ang mga katulad nina Palparan, Esperon, Razon at Barias?

    balita pa ba ang maraming elemento sa media, na tumatanggap ng suhol at isa rin sa aktibong may kinalaman sa mga pandarambong at nakawan?

    ako, bilang mambabasa, naniniwala na ang mga ito ay hindi na balita….sila na ang mainstream at siyang nakikita ng mga tao—-kaya lugmok sa hirap at problema ang bansa.

    ang balita na hinahanap ngayon ng taong-bayan ay kung meron pa bang natitirang miyembro ng media, na handang humarap sa panganib at magpaka-totoo.

    ang balitang hinahanap ng mambabasa ay ang mga katulad nina Sen. A. Trillanes, Gen. Danny Lim, atbp.— may kahandaan ipaglaban ang kalayaan mula sa kamangmangan, at kapighatian na dulot ng kawalan ng moral na batayan sa pamamahala ang mga naturingang lider— umpisa kay Gloria.

    ang balitang hinahanap ng tao, ay kung paano nila maipakita ang pakiisa sa mga taong lumalaban para sa kabutihan ng Inang Bayan.

  14. happy gilmore happy gilmore

    ahhh yes, the all glorious role MEDIA has played in our country. all too often the media has cloaked their thirst for profits in the name of nationalism, truth, God, etc…if the media had any inkling of patriotism, they should stake stake their claim in changing the hearts and minds of the people FOR THE BETTER, not this sensationalism of senseless issues. MEdia should play the role of EYE OPENER – that the people need not depend so much on government, that the power to change lies within themselves. Media should awaken each Filipino’s sense of history by highlighting our heroes – not these idiotic telenovelas or LOBO or Lastikman or Meteor Garden. End the hypocrisy of media, for the media today can best be summarized by the kanto phrase “pera pera lang yan”.

  15. parasabayan parasabayan

    Amen Zen2!
    Credible stories come from actual gathering of information. How can one write about an event when the journalist can not even get close to the subject?
    If the police did not haul all the handcuffed(w/plastic for electrical use) journalists to the police processing station and treated them like criminals, this whole war between the police and the media would not have ensued. The police started this whole charade in the first place!
    There is something deeper than just the Manila Penn incident. It is very obvious that the DOROBO’s regime do not want the media to cover ANY POLICE AND MILITARY OPERATIONS! Kasi palaging may milagro dyan! And it will be expected that operations like the Manila Penn may happen again and again! Senator Trillianes and General Lim are the symbols of the real opposition to the DOROBO. The media made a judgement call to cover the sensational stand off. What was wrong with that? Did the media know that the whole incident will turn out to a real “war zone”? With tanks and batallions of armed men surrounding TWO UNARMED REBELS? Did the media predict that the military will have an “OVERKILL” operation at the Manila Pen? The media was there to report first hand the blow by blow occurence of the stand-off.
    DJBRizalist, comparing the media to a magtataho is pure insult, not because the profession of the other is more superior than the other one. Media people run a far riskier day to day operation like the police do. In the EK regime since when did we have any equal rights anyway?

  16. Elvira Sahara Elvira Sahara

    Tama ka talaga, ZEN2!
    Ang nais ng mga tao ngayon ay ang balitang sasagip sa kanila sa kahirapan!
    Siyempre, para makapagpatuloy naman sa pang-DODOROBO ang mga Kinauukulan, dapat part of “piping” audience na lang ang mga taga-MEDIA! Kulang na lang sabihin sa Media, “Mind your own business or Shut up!” Di ba, pa-remind, remind pa kuno si Agurang Gonzales ng sitahin niya ang Media!
    Eh, ano na lang ang ating bansa kung wala ng total free hand ang MEDIA?
    Ang masasabi ko lang sa mga taga-Media: You’re the ONLY hope of the country. Do what you’re supposed to do! Leave Saludo to salute his Master! May araw din SILA!

  17. Yes, may araw din sila! Malapit na! Kulang lang sa dasal ang mga pilipino. Siguro kailangan pa nilang makita kung saan sila mali, pati na ang maling pagsunod nila doon sa mga vested interest na mga pari, di bale sana kung talagang para sa Panginoon naman ang mga ginagawa nila. Puede ba, turuan na lang ang mga congregation nilang magpakatino? Iyong mga pervert na mga pari, umpisahan nila sa mga sarili nila!

    Anyway, sinong tinakot ni Saludo? Mga media? Baka mapahiya siya! Sipsip! Magkano bang ninakaw ni Dorobo para diyan sa sipsip na iyan? Tindiiiii!

  18. Voice from the past:

    GOOD MOVE, BAD MOVE
    By Ricardo Saludo (Asiaweek:1999)

    What makes a good power move? Or a bad one? No, devils and angels have nothing to do with it. Power has one objective: to make things happen, whether good or evil. What things? Whatever the power wielder wants. So one test of a good power move is whether it had the effect it was supposed to have. At the start of Manila’s People Power Revolution in 1986, Asiaweek asked Ferdinand Marcos whether there would be a curfew. He promptly ordered one. But nobody paid attention – a clear failure of clout. Indeed, blatant flouting of Marcos’s word just accelerated the implosion of his authority.

    Which brings us to a second criterion for power moves: Did it enhance or erode the wielder’s clout?
    Ricardo Saludo is now Gloria’s Cabinet secretary)

  19. Ooops, sa Inquirer pala galit si Saludo, hindi sa Malaya! Media pa rin iyan. Pag binanatan siya ng talagang mga media, baka madala siya.

    Dito sa amin, nakakatakot ang media. Mahuhubaran ang kahit sinong mapuruhan nila kaya siguro marami ang ayaw sumali sa politika. Matapang na lang talaga ang bituka ng papasok sa politika sa totoo lang.

    Meron ngang isang pilipina na sisikat na sana dito pero nasira kasi nalamang nagsisinungaling. Biglang bagsak kahit na anong try hard niya. Naglabas pa nga ng kaniya para makabawi pero walang nagawa.

    Kung dito nangyari iyong kabulastugan ni Dorobo noong 2004 na nagnakaw ng boto, pihado wala na iyan sa mundo—that is, kung may delikadesa siyang magbigti o tumalon mula sa mataas na building! Kundi nasa kulungan na sana ngayon!!! Golly, nakaka-rubbing shoulders pa sa mga hari at reyna ng Espana at UK. Pwe! Kadiri!

  20. petite petite

    Ka DJBRIZALIST, maraming salamat po sa inyong tinuran… na: Why is the Media being so reluctant to admit it made a mistake at Manila Pen? Are they afraid the Public will see their Feet of Clay?

    Ka DJBRIZALIST, pana-panahon lang iyan… Kung ikaw ay kabahagi noong EDSA 1 sa pagbabalita ng ganapan, kung saan sina Matandang Ramos at Enrile ay nagdeklara ng pagkalas kay Apo Macoy… masaya ka ba noon? O kasama ka rin ba sa nagdiwang dahil nagtagumpay ang unang kudeta sa Pilipinas. Kung ikaw ay kasama rin sa EDSA 2, sa pagbabalita sa kaganapan sa panulukan ng EDSA at Ortigas Ave, marahil, masayang-masaya ka sapagkat nagtagumpay muli ang kudeta nina Reyes, Matandang Ramos et al…

    Ka DJBRIZALIST, Pana-panahon lang iyan, sina Apo Macoy at Erap, kahit paano’y may puso’t kaluluwa, dahil noong 1986 at 2001 ay hindi nila binakuran ang malayang pamamahayag bagkus nagpati-anod sila sa panawagan ng katotohanan, ito man ay negatibo o positibo. Maging ang partisipasyon ng mga tao, na makilahok sa rali noong EDSA 1 at 2, kahit na ito’y tuwirang ikakabagsak ng kanilang kapangyarihan ay hindi pinigilan ng dalawang nagdaang halal na Pangulo. Sa dalawang tao na aking binanggit, iisa ang kanilang damdamin… hindi nila pinahintulutan na magkaroon ng malawakang patayan ng mga Pilipino o nang digmaang sibil, na kapwa-Pilipino’y nagpapatayan!

    Ka DJBRIZALIST , Pana-panahon lang iyan; nagkataon lamang na si Gloria ang nasa kapangyarihang politikal ngayon at noong kaganapan sa Manila Pen’ taong 2007. Kung paano mo? laitin at kutyain ang malayang pamamahayag ay isang katibayan na ikaw ay kabahagi sa paghahangad na magkaroon ng madugo at armadong sagupaan noong kasagsagan ng Manila Pen, at magkaroon ng balidong dahilan upang tuluyan nang i-deklara nina Gloria at Tabako-Esperon Boys ang BATAS MILITAR. Si Gloria ay ibang-iba kumpara kina Apo Macoy at Erap, si Gloria ay hibang sa kapangyarihan, kaya’t nag-utos o kaya’y sunod-sunuran lamang siya sa dikta ng mga iilang ganid na opisyales ng AFP at ng PNP, na agad-agarang nagkaroon ng “yellow line” sa Manila Pen at sinabi mong sinuway ng media ang hanay ng kapulisan, nang dahil doo’y hinusgahan mong “nagkamali ang media” sa pagtupad ng kanilang panglipunang responsibilidad – ang malayang pamamahayag! Na katulad nang kanilang malayang pagpapahayag noong mga kaganapan sa mga nagdaang EDSA 1, 2 at 3… samakatuwid, saan nagkamali ang media noong kasagsagan ng Manila Pen? Marahil, ikaw ay wala sa landas ng katotohanan?

    Ka DJBRIZALIST; kailanman ay hindi kaaway ng Pilipinong Media ang Pilipinong Kapulisan, at hindi rin kaaway ng Pilipinong Kapulisan ang Pilipinong Media! Ang malayang pamamahayag ay nagtatanggol sa katotohanan, at ang panglipunang responsibilidad ng kapulisan at kasundaluhan ay tanging ipagtanggol ang buhay at dignidad ng sambayanang Pilipino sa kuko ng mga iilang ganid at nakakarimarim na Pilipino, kung kaya’t bakit may Edsa 1, 2 at ang naudlot na Edsa 3…? Sino ba ang kaaway ng sambayanan? Ikaw Ka DJBRIZALIST, nasa panig ka ba ng KATOTOHANAN at HUSTISYA? Ka DJBRIZALIST; ito’y para sa iyo: “ang hindi magmahal sa sariling wika, ay higit pa sa mabaho’t malansang isda” – Gat Jose Rizal.

    Ka DJBRIZALIST, kapwa ko Pilipino; ganunpaman, muli maraming salamat po! Suma-inyo po ang KAPAYAPAAN!

  21. J. Cruz J. Cruz

    To: Ricardo Saludo

    Growing a beard, good move or bad move? Please do not insult the Amish community!

  22. atty36252 atty36252

    But does anyone seriously think Journalists have more rights than Ordinary Citizens to find stuff out?
    ********************

    The Court found no wrongdoing in the Ordinary Citizens, Nemenzo et al., and dropped all charges; they were not obstructing anything.

    The same applies to the media.

  23. petite: Pana-panahon lang iyan, sina Apo Macoy at Erap, kahit paano’y may puso’t kaluluwa, dahil noong 1986 at 2001 ay hindi nila binakuran ang malayang pamamahayag bagkus nagpati-anod sila sa panawagan ng katotohanan, ito man ay negatibo o positibo.

    *****
    Tama ka sa sinabi mo. Ngayon ang bakod ng Malacanang may koryente na ginastusan ng katakot-takot kasama na iyong mga overbilling para malaki ang kupit maliban pa doon sa mga container na galing sa pier na nasa hanggang tulay ng Mendiola.

    Noong Martial Law, nagpunta kami ng grupong dala ko mula sa Japan at pumasok sa Malacanang na kasama sa Tour of Manila kahit na mahilig ring mag-rally iyong mga kasamahan ni Joma na naging dahilan ng Martial Law. Ngayon sabi ng kaibigan ko walang Malacanang tour at takot na takot si Dorobo na malusob ng mga nagpoprotesta ang palasyo.

    Tama ka. Sino ngayon ang mas ulupong?

  24. Isagani Isagani

    Djbrizalist,

    On Faeldon: who is to say that the police itself did not promote Faeldon’s escape? Look, only Glorias administration gains by creating an atmosphere of danger and instability in order to stay in power. See? Esperon’s tenure had been extended!

    Your ‘satire’ on the taho vendor, the media and the police is a funny one. Was it satire or a serious analogy? Anyway, the tirade sounds more like Ignacio Bunye, rambling along groping for excuses, who has lost all credibility.

  25. Isagani Isagani

    A question: to those of you who are fond of saying “Ka.” What is this style of address? Isn’t this how the NPA address one another? Are you communist fans, followers, groupies or just wanna-bes?

  26. A question: to those of you who are fond of saying “Ka.” What is this style of address? Isn’t this how the NPA address one another? Are you communist fans, followers, groupies or just wanna-bes? – Isagani

    As far as I know, “Ka” is a contracted term for Kasama. In the metropolis, we use the address “Mang” for a man older than we are and “Aling” for an elder lady. “Ka” as a way of addressing elders, is still very much in use among people in the Tagalog provinces.

    Using “Ka” in my case, is just a humble way of preserving a culture- and the Tagalog dialect- especially in the face of unwarranted attacks coming from “modern” Pinoys- those Pinoys who believe that anything Pinoy, isn’t worth a grain of salt.

    Hiniram lang ng mga komunista ang “Ka”. Marahil, panahon na upang ibalik ang halaga at kahulugan ng “Ka” at ng iba pang sangkap ng kalinangang Pilipino sa tunay nilang pinagmulan.

  27. What journalists say about themselves ought to apply to taho vendors too.

    Very true, indeed!

    But the last time I checked, nobody converted The Manila into a taho factory before November 29, 2007. Or, did somebody?

  28. Isagani Isagani

    Thanks for the explanation, but my understanding is that the word “Ka” is equivalent to the word “comrade,” which is how communists address one another to express equality. As to the word “Mang,” it is my uinderstanding that this world is used as a title of respect to an older person.

    I know some people in college who have communist leanings. They keep addressing me as “Ka Isagani.” They are a stubborn lot. Some have probably gone up, hiding in the hills, extorting from the poor farmers and killing innocent people.

    I have lived in the Tagalog and Visayan provinces for a long time and seldom have I heard this word “ka” of addressing people.

    Oh yeah, come to think of it, I have heard this a number of times in Batangas. Ka Roger! But wait, isn’t that guy, Ka Roger, a commie?

  29. Isagani,
    Its best you do your homework on Maoist ideology as it is obvious that your knowledge of communism is from the US orientation (biased). Try to study Chinese history also and trace the path of development of the country. The “red scare” is a product of US intervention and the NPAs is result of extreme defensiveness. There is no such thing as killing innocent people, its basically one side trying to beat the other. Your naivity actually smells of pseudo intellectuallism, you want to sound smart but are actually mediocre so do us a favor of thinking first before you let go your qwert.
    Look at the commie countries around you, already leaps and bounds ahead of the Philippines, they must be doing something right? Or are you too far up Uncle Sam’s bunghole you can’t see the light?

  30. Isagani Isagani

    Jug,

    you should follow your own advice. You need it more than I do. You sound like an ignorant college freshman with no friends and are being taken advantage of by equally innocent commie pawns.

    As to the commies who comment on this blog: why don’t you admit that you are communists? Are you ashamed? Why do you hide your beliefs?

    Me, I am not a communist. I don’t like communists. They are liars, extortionists and murderers. Name one good thing the commies have done in the Philippines. If I am to choose between Gloria and the communists, I’ll take Gloria anytime, hands down.

  31. Valdemar Valdemar

    The people have as much right to decide what to read or what to believe. It seems more people wanted to read and listen and the journalist are more credib;e to them than the authorities and cohorts in concert who assumed to have the right to present false witness, rumours, accusations or anything out of the blue.

  32. DJBRIZALIST DJBRIZALIST

    At the risk of insulting the taho vendors, I must insist on the parity of rights between theirs and that of journalists.

    What many people do not see clearly is that the rights of journalism are essentially the rights of commerce. The right to buy and sell information is the same as the right to buy and sell taho. No more, no less.

    Press Freedom is like the Freedom of the tiangge to offer whatever the customer will buy in exchange for money. Like vendors in a tiangge “the Media” sells an awful lot of information in a myriad of forms: hard news, weird views, gossip, movies, sports, obits, etc. Just as the rights of the shoe vendors are not greater than the rights of the jewelry sellers, the stuff of the Front Page (news) is not more protected by freedom than the obits or the gossip columns. They are all products for sale in the market for information.

    The Public’s Right to Know also includes its Right Not to Know. In other words, the consumer can choose to exercise the right to know or not by deciding whether or not to buy the information being offered for sale.

    That is the reason why the Media is so SCOOP-obsessed. News sells, and sensational news sells even better.

    In the final analysis, all the sanctimonious claims of having the right to interfere with police operations is an assertion of the Media’s commercial rights to get and sell information.

    The Public’s Right to Know is really just the Right of the Media to sell them that knowledge and their right to buy it.

    But all the rules of normal commerce, such as public order and reasonable respect for police authority ought to apply.

  33. Isagani,
    There are no communists in this blog, working people, OFWs, maybe, as I am one. You’re the one sounding like a freshman, if you’ve ever reached the point of earning in foreign currency, then you’ll be to our level. Until then, you’re just another wanabe, you don’t even know what you want to be. It is not a case of communism or Gloria, get your head straight little man. Do your homework.

  34. Isagani Isagani

    Hehehe, you are a funny one, jug.

  35. DJB,
    Instead of wasting your vaunted intellect on the peripherals, focus on the true issues. Issues that really matter to us, not MISDIRECTION. There are only two things that matter to me good business and the truth, anything else is just blowing hot air.

  36. Isagani,
    Nope. I’m quite serious when it comes to issues that involve my country. Honestly, I am in China now, I just spent the whole day through their museums, getting a glimpse of their struggles, now the country is a picture of robust economy. The Philippines is perfectly capable of achieving the same economic growth but only if we take our jobs seriously and focus on things that matter.

  37. The media is just the “messenger” let us focus on the message. Focus on the truth.

  38. chi chi

    Razon and his police spread the lie that a curly woman reporter helped in the escape of Capt. Faeldon. It boomeranged on them, pahiya sila.

    Sina Razon at siRaulo ang sumisira sa media, dapat ay bugbugin sila ng demanda at baka sakaling bumalik sa katinuan ng pag-iisip.

  39. balweg balweg

    RE: Merong ngang nagtanong dito, kung bakit ang Pinoy media ay siyang naging balita, imbes daw, sa nakagawiang tagapag-hatid lamang ng balita.

    Zen2: Mayroon namang sumagot dito sa aking tabi na kaya daw ang taga-Media ang IN ngayon eh WALA NA DAW EXCEMPTED sa witch-hunting ng PNP/DOJ melodrama.

    Common sense at obvious naman na ang pagbintangan ng PNP/DOJ eh mga OFWs, talagang giyera patani na ang gusto nilang mangyari.

    Walang maituro ang PNP kaya nagpitik-bulag sila kung kanino ibubunton ang sisi sa pag eskapo ni Kapitang Faeldon. Heto ang siste, bakit di nila ginawa ang loyalty check to all PNP/AFP personel at that time ng lusubin nila ang PEN? I guessed na ang nagligtas kay Kapitan eh kabaro din niya, possible di ba!

    Kita mo, ang mga pobreng mediamen eh di rin pala ligtas sa lipunang ito, atleast naranasan nila ang maharas, posasan at ipahiya sa madla.

    Nakita mo ang galit ng Masang Pinoy ng bweltahan ang media (NOT ALL of THEM HA!) during EDSA TRES siege kasi nga eh naka-side sila sa Arroyo gov’t at that time. Today, marami na sa kanila ang reformist at heto nangatauhan na about the truth of GMA regime.

    So, sama-sama uling lakas ang taong-Bayan anomang sektor ka nabibilang para maging isang lakas laban sa kawalang hustisya sa ating bansa. Ang police/militar na lamang ang isang sektor sa ating lipunan na dedma lang sa mga nangyayari sa ating bansa.

    Hoping na magbuklod ang lahat at sama-sama na magwithdraw ng suport sa rehiming Arroyo para matahimik na ang bansa at magmove on tayong lahat sa panibagong bukas!

  40. chi chi

    Isagani

    “On Faeldon: who is to say that the police itself did not promote Faeldon’s escape? Look, only Glorias administration gains by creating an atmosphere of danger and instability in order to stay in power. See? Esperon’s tenure had been extended!”

    Perfect plan executed for Gloria’s perpetual stay in EK!

  41. Isagani Isagani

    Jug,

    So, you are in China now ha, Well, good for you. I hope you get to learn something insightful there. By the way, while you are there, ask them what they think of MAO. Be sure to get both sides of the story! It’s the only way to have an open mind.

    Enjoy.

  42. DJBRIZALIST DJBRIZALIST

    Jug,
    What could be more central to this issue than the meaning of Press Freedom? Perhaps you just find the truth vaguely insulting that journalism and Tahoism are equal before the Law. That would be a mistake because I am really saying that Capitalism itself protects Press Freedom!

  43. chi chi

    Off topic.

    Balweg,

    Huwag mo na kaming tawagin na may ‘Ka’ sa unahan ng names ha? I know that you meant KAPATID (as in we’re bros and sisters here at Ellenville). Pero misleading nga sa iba ang word na “KA”, you know what I mean. At saka si DJB ay hindi pwedeng maging “Ka”. 🙂

  44. balweg balweg

    Ka Isagani/Jug,

    Me, I am not a communist. I don’t like communists. They are liars, extortionists and murderers.

    Ang linaw ng iyong explanation, ibig sabihin eh mga communist ang gawi sa buhay like sinungaling, magnanakaw, at mamamatay tao. Nangangahulugan na ang mga komunista eh malayang kumikilos sa enchanted kingdom?

    Medyo laliman natin ng kaunting paliwag ang iyong tinuran, yon bang 800+ extrajudicial killings, jose pidal, jocjoc bolante, 2Million dollarman, ZTE, Macapagal Blvd, etc. etc. eh minsan man eh ginawa ba ng mga komunista sa ating bansa?

    To be fair sa mga kababayan nating Pinoy who called them communist as you said, atleast para maging maliwanag ang usapan at no heart feeling.

    Kailangang malinaw ang usapan at maiwasan ang paratangan sa isa’t isa eh dapat mapag-usapan sa mesa kung sino talaga ang ugat ng mga problema sa ating lipunan.

    Kung ang di pagkakasunduan eh ideology, naku po di matatapos ang issue sapagka’t ang involve dito ay int’l community who have owned beliefs and understanding about ideolgy.

  45. From Merriam-Webster online dictionary:

    Main Entry:
    com·rade
    Pronunciation:
    \ˈkäm-ˌrad, -rəd, especially British -ˌrād\
    Function:
    noun
    Etymology:

    Middle French camarade group sleeping in one room, roommate, companion, from Old Spanish camarada, from cámara room, from Late Latin camera, camara — more at chamber
    Date: 1544

    1 a: an intimate friend or associate : companion b: a fellow soldier

    2[from its use as a form of address by communists] : communist

    Just because definition #2 exists, would it be right to conclude that definition #1 isn’t true anymore?

    I am from upland Cavite, and we use “Ka” a lot- even for those whose names are Roger.

  46. balweg balweg

    As you said Chi, no problem it’s a deal OK! Happy ka na.

  47. chi chi

    Ka Enchong,

    I’m from Bataan and we used doble “Ka” as in Kaka. Kaya baka double red ako a!

  48. chi chi

    Tenkyu, Balweg.

  49. xanadu xanadu

    Mga ka-barangay, maganda ang palitan ng mga kuro-kuro lalo na kung tugma sa isyu ang tatalakayin.

  50. Maliit pa ako, Ka+pangalan ang tawagan sa katagalugan sa mga kaibigan ang naririnig ko. Sa probinsiya nga ng nanay ko, ang tawag sa ate, “Kaka.” Walang kinalaman sa mga HUK sa totoo lang.

    Talaga naman itong mga amerikanong hilaw, anything Filipino, para sa kanila, kundi walang kuwenta, komunista. Kapag mahirap na lumalaban, komunista, pero pag may datong at ang tawagan ay “brod” at “sis,” ano?

  51. balweg balweg

    DJB,

    I respected your point of view or either comments because this Community of Open-minded idealists and nationalists Pinoy who have ONLY one aimed and dream in life, to have a peaceful and progressive Philippines, that’s ALL!

    We need to learn how to cope up a negative or either positive constractive criticism in our interaction to all issues now we discussed in this blog.

    Well, maturity and being an educated Pinoys dapat maging mawalak ang ating pinagkukunan at magkaroon tayo ng isang kaisipan lamang for the best of our country and unity among us as we loving Filipinos become a good and holy example to others.

  52. balweg balweg

    Welcome Chi!

  53. petite petite

    “What many people do not see clearly is that the rights of journalism are essentially the rights of commerce. The right to buy and sell information is the same as the right to buy and sell taho. No more, no less.” – DJBRIZALIST

    Ka DJBRIZALIST, huwag po ninyong sukatin ang kaisipan ng mga ordinaryong Pilipino, na kahit ako’y isang tindero ng Taho o magtataho ay marunong ring gumamit ng cellphone! ibig pong sabihin, hindi tanga ang taumbayan… katanungan nga ng magtataho, ay bakit hindi na magkasya ang kinikita niya kada araw sa pagbebenta ng pagtataho para ipamuhay sa kanyang pamilya? Bakit lumiit ang balyus ng kanyang kinikita kada araw, bakit patuloy ang pagtaas ng presyo ng bilihin sa kabila ng sinasabi ni Gloria na ang PESO ay lumalakas? Wala bang karapatan ang magtataho na magtanong kung bakit… laganap ang kahirapan, ang karahasan sa pagitan ng NPA at AFP, ang korapsyon, ang mga diumano’y mga anomalyang nanunoot sa pamahalaan ni Gloria? At bakit mayroong kaganapan sa Manila Pen noong Nobyembre 29, 2007; na ayun sa iyong pananampalataya na ang media ay nagkamali sa kanilang pagtupad sa malayang pamamahayag.

    Ka DJBRIZALIST, nawa’y huwag po ninyo masamain ang katanungan ko, ano po ba ang pagkakaunawa ninyo sa kaganapan sa Manila Pen, ito ba ay Para sa Bayan? O ito ba ay para lamang sa pang-sariling interes nina Ka Danny, sampu ng kanyang kasamahan? Dahil sa aking simpleng analisis sa inyong mga isinasatitik sa komunidad ng Ellenville blog ay malinaw na ang lahat ng bagay ay maaaring i-benta sa ngalan ng karapatan sa pangangalakal! Nagtatanong lamang po.

    Ka DJBRIZALIST, pahabol po. Naranasan mo na bang mag-almusal at mananghalian ng TAHO? Sampung piso lang kada isang plastic na baso… tumaas na nga ‘eh… ang presyo ng taho.

    Muli, suma-inyo po ang kapayapaan.

  54. balweg balweg

    101% Grizzy agree ako sa iyong tinuran! Ito ang kalakaran sa Pinas, ang batas na umiiral sa ngayon eh para lang protektahan ang mga rich Pinoy at maimpluwensiya sa lipunan, but if the poor people nagpahayag ng saloobin sa gobyerno for sure kakasuhan ka na isang komunista.

    Nasaan ang patas na hustisya, WALA! Kaya di natin masisisi ang mga namumundok o kaya ang batas eh inilalagay sa kanilang mga kamay, bakit po? Sapagka’t ang batas na umiiral sa ating bansa ay mayroon kinikilingan at pagwala kang PISO mabubuluk ka sa kulungan o kaya papanaw ka sa mundong ibabaw wala sa oras.

  55. When I was a little girl and still not debriefed after being brainwashed by Americans, takot na takot ako sa mga komunista lalo na doon sa mga Ruso at intsik ng Tsina. Akala ko talagang powerful sila at nakakatakot dahil iyong ang sabi ng mga guro kong kano.

    Then, I had the chance to go to Russia on a trip to Europe via Siberia. Nakita ko kung gaano kailangang maging komunista ang Russia para umunlad. Ganoon din ang impression ko sa China hanggang late 80’s nang mamasyal kami sa Peking at Shanghai. Nagtaka ako kung bakit takot ang mga kano sa mga komunista ganoon marami namang mababait sa kanila. Mas parang provincial pa nga ang dating di gaya ng mga hambug at salbaheng kano.

    Nabago ang tingin ko sa mga komunista nang magkaroon ako ng pagkakataong makipagtulungan sa kanila sa paglutas ng mga problema namin sa Japan gaya ng pakikibaka ng mga kababaihan laban sa mga chauvinist na mga hapon. Kabisig nila ang mga Sosyalista. Sila ang unang-unang naglagay ng mga babae sa aming Diet sa totoo lang.

    Mas gusto ko ang ideology ng mga Sosyalista ng Hapon kaya sinusuporta ko ang Socialist Party of Japan. Ang komunista ng Japan naman ay mas malapit sa mga komunista ng USSR, hindi Tsina.

    In short, kahit ano ideology kung demonyo ang namumuno, nawawalan ng saysay ang magagandang prinsipyo at panukala. Hindi komo democratic kuno siguradong walang lalabas na diktador. E bakit ba noong panahon ni Macoy. Di ba democratic daw pero dictador siya. E ngayon, di ba ganoon din?

    Puede ba, iyong mga mangmang at superstitious (sa komunista) tumigil na ng dada. Nabobobo lang ang mga bini-brainwash nila.

  56. balweg balweg

    Petite, ang sarap ata ng “TAHO” lalo na kung nanamnamin mo ang sarap nito. Pakit bulong mo nga kay DJB na paki-amot naman para may miryenda tayo.

    Ang feeling ko eh may itinatagong sama ng loob itong si DJB sa mga taga-Media…aminin! We are willing to help you to forgive them or you need counseling to understand the nature of their works as a journalist.

    It’s normal to have a Piso Piso journalist and/or real one who has guts to stand in the way of truthful pagbabalita.

  57. E si Dubya nga daig pa si Hitler sa ginagawa niyang panggagago sa kapwa niya kano. Gustung maging diktador kung puede lang. Mabuti naman at puede pang lumaban ang mga tao sa USA sa pamamagitan ng kanilang mga representative sa Congress at Senate.

    Pero sabi nga ng propeta ng simbahan namin, kundi magbabago ng mga ugali ang mga kano ngayon, wawasakin ng Panginoon ang America na itinalaga ng Dios para maging halimbawa ng kalayaan at katarungan, hindi huwaran ng mga kawalanghiyaan gaya nang nangyayari mula pa noong 1949 or before that. Gusto pang maghari sa mundo kaya sila na ngayon ang nagpapalaganap ng aggression sa mga bansang hindi naman makakalaban sa kanila gaya ng Iraq na ginutom nila bago nila nilusob at sinakop!

    I wonder if the 144,000 mentioned in the people actually refers to the number of Iraqis killed by US armours before the destruction of the world prior to the Second Coming of Christ. Ooops, lagpas na nga pala ang bilang. As of this date, “1,168,058” na ang napatay na mga Iraqis simula nang lusubin sila ng mga kano sa utos ni Enggoy Dubya! Kaya tignan ninyo ang nangyayari sa mundo ngayon.

  58. balweg balweg

    Happy Gilmore, RE: not this sensationalism of senseless issues.

    Tutal wala palang kwenta ang mga issues na nangyayari sa Pinas, eh panonoorin na lang natin at magbibingi-bingihan na lamang tayo sa maraming kaluluwa na nananaghoy at humihingi ng hustisya sa ating bansa.

    Kaya mo bang dalhin sa iyong kunsensiya ang mga nangyayari sa ating bansa at babayaan mo na lang na apakan o dustain ang iyong pagka-Pinoy.

    Well, kung nakikinabang ka naman sa Arroyo regime eh WALA lang, that’s your prerogative at remember ipakakain mo sa iyong mga anak ang PISO na nanggaling sa pera ni Mang Tomas.

    O kaya you have a comfortable life with your family, that’s fine but remember ang daming nagugutom at walang makain sa buhay.

    May peace of mind ka at masarap ang pagtulog sa gabi…. naghihilik pa, eh mapalad ka but marami tayong mga kababayan na walang matirhan o kaya maayos na tulugan pag inalat pa eh pagtitripan pa sila ni MMDA Bayani.

    Umaasa ako na magiging uliran kang Pinoy at maging magandang halimbawa sa balana, sapagka’t minsan lamang tayo mabuhay sa mundong ibabaw.

  59. …if the 144,000 mentioned in the Bible…Bakit nagin people? I guess, I need to go to bed now. Tulog muna ako. 3 am na dito. Ang ginaw pa. Oyasumi!

  60. balweg balweg

    Mamya ka na Grizzy matulog, kasi nangangati pa itong fingers ko to compose a melody songs for your ears.

  61. Isagani Isagani

    Asus, kung hinde kayo commies, e di sabihin niyo na hinde. Ang dami pang pakuntsaba. Para kayong binigong babae.

    Sa akin lang e mabuti na ang malinaw. Kasi maraming communists diyan na nagpapangap na anti-gma pero gusto lang man magpainit ng ulo at mangatong. Hoy, alam niyo kung sino kayo diyan.

  62. Kung komunista ang isang taong naghahanap ng katotohanan,
    Kung gawaing komunista ang pagiging makabayan,
    Kung komunista ang paghahanap ng solusyon sa kahirapan,
    Kung komunista ang magsakripisyo para sa kapakanan ng iba,
    Kung komunista lang ang humihingi ng katarungan sa mga pang-aapi,
    Kung komunista ang pagba-blog dito kay Ellen…

    Itawag na ninyo ang gusto ninyong itawag…payag na akong tawaging komunista!

  63. Balweg, este Ka Balweg,
    Ang linaw ng iyong explanation, ibig sabihin eh mga communist ang gawi sa buhay like sinungaling, magnanakaw, at mamamatay tao. Nangangahulugan na ang mga komunista eh malayang kumikilos sa enchanted kingdom?

    Ganda na sana, hindi mo pa diniretso -> Sana…“Nangangahulugan, KOMUNISTA SI GLORIA!”

  64. Valdemar Valdemar

    Whats in a name, people! I bet many here wanted to showoff the other side of their real something by adopting an alias. Like Rizalists, to me it connotes something about women in every (port) country, or Isagani an idol of the rizalists who might have failings with the journalists. Ka or Kaka of the Ilocos, or ga or gaga of the Visayas are only terms of endearment but can be such also sa ka bundukan at kina ka lantiaw. The commies and the katipuneros for lack of other appropriate shorter words went on to use the ka prefix so that orders to shoot in the war fronts would be brief. Is ka bayan then a commie, too? Like the name Balweg is a for a hero. Juggernaut ay parang pison. Valdemar is for the image I see on the mirror, a communist when I am with communists, a non-commie when I am with no one, or anything depends on the subject. I am also a dr of madicine, in short a DOM.

  65. Mga kasama,
    Lilinawin ko, hindi ako komunista, kahit pa ilan sa mga naging kaklase ko ay tuluyan nang namundok, ni minsan hindi ako sumama sa anumang pagkilos nila kahit pa malaya kaming gawin iyon sa unibersidad.

    Pero simula nang umupo si Gloria, noon ko namalayan na ang halaga ng, at pangangailangan sa, mga patriyotiko. Dito ako nagising na ang pakikipaglaban pala ay wala sa kinaaanibang grupong politikal o estadong pinansiyal. Ang katotohanan at katuwiran ay walang pinipili.

    Nagkataon lang ngayong pareho ang ipinaglalaban ko ngayon at ng sa mga komunista, ngunit hindi dahilan iyon para kalimutan ko nang tuluyan ang pakikipagtungali, kahit dito lang sa palitan ng kuro-kuro at damdamin.

    Nakakapanghinayang na ang isang dating tagapagtanggol daw ng Konstitusyon ay kumampi sa mga gawain ng isang gobyernong pilit naman itong winawasak.

    God save DJB from himself.

  66. rose rose

    isa-ka-gani: what do your mean when you said “you will take gloria any time hands down”? you will crawl? hindi ka naman aso or are you? Ang basa ko noong una..ang sabi mo you will take gloria pants down..I had to go back and read again kasi hindi ako makapaniwala na may gagawa nito..
    …I have not met a communist so I don’t know what a communist is..I have read about them and I don’t subscribe to their idealogies…Though I blog in here..I am not a communist and will never be…why? Because I believe in God and He alone will I honor and obey..
    ..on the use of “ka” I learned to use this as a respect…My late husband was from Quezon and Batangas..and I also learned to use “po”..and ala eh ano ga?
    …though Antique where I come from is surrounded by ranges
    of mountains..it does not make me taga bundok..
    …easy ka lang..let’s just respect one another..

  67. rose rose

    Val: what is in a name? a rose would still be a rose indeed ba? gaga is a Visayan term of endearment? since when? ang sabi ng tatay ko sa akin..no body has any right to call anyone “gaga” or “gago” not even to those who helped us at home..thus I grew up not using the words…”inday” is what we use..perhaps you heard the word “ga” and that is from palangga but not gaga…

  68. rose rose

    Gilmore: mukhang happy ka gigil na gigil more sa mga media..but your statement “pera pera lang yan” does not apply to all..kung may kilala ka at mapatunayan mo na tumanggap that is your business..but not in money alone do many of them live..easy lang…hindi lahat ng tao ay sa pera lang maligaya..”one can live in the world but of the world” and “one can live simply to simply live”.

  69. rose rose

    jug: are you spending New Year in China? Happy New Year..I will go to Chinatown..kaya lang nakakatakot ang paputok at ang daming tao..

  70. rose rose

    hindi ba ang “taho” ay bean curd? hindi ba ang bean curd ay hindi mabubuo kung hindi malinis? kung hindi sariwa? Kung ang media is likened to a “taho” vendor na nagbibinta na isang malinis na producto..di masabi ko din na ang media like the taho vendor sells a clean and fresh product?

  71. zen2 zen2

    * off-topic *

    Rose,

    my full sibling and spouse, med practitioners both and registered Democrats, happily informed me that they have decided finally to vote for Barack Obama instead.

    i encouraged them to donate in the campaign kitty.

  72. parasabayan parasabayan

    I am not too enthused on Obama but he may be the stabilizing factor in the situation that Bush got the world into. His background actually worked in his favor!

  73. Tongue: Itawag na ninyo ang gusto ninyong itawag…payag na akong tawaging komunista!

    *****
    Me, too, kaya lang committed na akong maging Socialist. Sabi nga nila maski si Hesukristo, Socialist!

  74. Rose: Though I blog in here..I am not a communist and will never be…why? Because I believe in God and He alone will I honor and obey..
    *****

    US propaganda din iyan, Rose. OK, Karl Marx, who invented the Communist idea, was an atheist, but are all Communists godless?

    The Chinese communists may not believe in the Christian God, but a lot many of them there in China still burn incense, a Buddhist practice, for their dead, etc.

    Over in old USSR, I was surprised to see a lot many Russians flocking to their Christian Orthodox church in Moscow, a reason I guess why our church now gets a lot many baptisms there now.

    Over in Japan, there are a lot many Communists working hand in hand with Christian clerics on issues for better Japan. They may not believe in God, but so are a lot many Japanese now. Ang hirap ngang mag-proselyte dito sa totoo lang kahit na hindi naman mga komunista lahat ang mga tao dito.

    Sabi nga, “Faith is a gift.” “For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To anotherfaith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; Wala iyan sa ideology.

  75. BTW, OK iyong endorsement ng mga Kennedy para kay Obama. I could see that Obama was touched. Hindi siya makapagsalita sa tuwa.

    I told my relatives in California voting Demcoract to vote for Obama in the caucus. As for my mother, she is definitely voting for Romney because he is my fellow LDS. Alam kasi ng mother kong matino ang mga membro ng simbahan namin. Ang hindi ko lang maalis sa kaniya, iyong adulation niya para kay Enggoy Dubya. Galit siya sa lasenggo kaya ini-emphasize ko sa kaniya ang pagka-enggoy ni Dubya.

  76. zen2 zen2

    grizzy,

    a friend mailed you a note at your gol address.

    PsB,

    Obama, even when cornered, always could spring stirring, if not poignant, anecdotes.

    Sana maging regalo siya para sa kabutihan ng sangkatauhan.

  77. I hope nakapasok, Zen2. I have this spammer subscription that rejects a lot many incoming mails unless I confirm who the sender is. Better use my yahoo account so I can include him in my OK list.

  78. rose rose

    Zen: I was quite surprised at the Obama endorsement of the Kennedys..the Clintons kung nasaktan man ..sport.. it is part of the game..
    grizzy: I remember while in Japan..before you enter the temple..there is a gong..and I likened this to a door bell asking permission to “come in” and then you washed your hands..to me a sign to cleanse oneself to enter the house of God..and when I visited Jolo, I noticed that their temple is by a stream or a body of water..again to be clean before you enter..ang gandang practice and symbolism…

  79. You bet, Rose. They are still being practiced. Maraming Buddhist rituals copied by the Catholics as a matter of fact like the dipping of fingers in the water font and making the sign of the cross when entering Catholic churches or the rosary and the repeated litanies. Meron din silang Goddess of Mercy called “Kannon Bodhisattva” as a matter of fact like the Virgin Mary

  80. petite petite

    Grizzy: “Me, too, kaya lang committed na akong maging Socialist. Sabi nga nila maski si Hesukristo, Socialist!”

    Amen… Purihin ang Dakilang Lumikha!

    Bagamat ako po ay hindi sosyalista o komunista, mataas po ang respeto ko sa ating mga kapatid na Pilipinong Komunista at Sosyalista. At muli kong uulitin, “kailanman ay hindi kaaway ng Pilipinong Media ang Pilipinong Kapulisan, at hindi rin kaaway ng Pilipinong Kapulisan ang Pilipinong Media! Ang malayang pamamahayag ay nagtatanggol sa katotohanan, at ang panglipunang responsibilidad ng kapulisan at kasundaluhan ay tanging ipagtanggol ang buhay at dignidad ng sambayanang Pilipino sa kuko ng mga iilang ganid at nakakarimarim na Pilipino”

    Sino ba ang tunay na kaaway ng sambayanan? sila’y mga iilang kasapi ng institusyong media na “bayaran” at yaong mga iilang produktong mag-aaral ng institusyong PMA na ganid sa kapangyarihan at kabang-yaman ng Pilipinas. Ito rin po ang dahilan, kung bakit hindi ako sang-ayun sa pagsasagawa ng komparatibong analisis ni Ka DJBRIZALIST sa pagitan ng magtataho at sa mga taong taga-media sa ngalan ng komersyo! mas mayroong kawastuhan, kung ang institusyong media ay ikukumpara sa institusyong militar. Sa tinuran ni Ka DJBRIZALIST: “That would be a mistake because I am really saying that Capitalism itself protects Press Freedom!” Ganun rin po ang institusyong militar, kaibahan nga lamang ay ganito: ang institusyong militar ay ginagamit ng iilang ganid at nakakarimarim na iilang produktong mag-aaral ng PMA upang protektahan ang KAPITALISMO at ang pyudal na istado ng bansa”.

    Ka DJBRIZALIST, sori po, kung ako man ay nakapagbitaw ng di-kaaya-ayang titik sa inyo, datapuwat dapat kong igiit ang “sanktidad ng malayang pamamahayag”, na hindi lahat ng taong taga-media ay “bayaran”. Salamat sa Dakilang Lumikha, dahil mayroong Ka Ellen, at maraming pang katulad ni Ka Ellen, para sa pagpapanatili ng “sanktidad ng malayang pamamahayag”

    Ka Grizzy, maraming salamat po! sa inyong tinuran, si Hesukristo ay para sa katotohanan, hustisya, at kapayapaan. Mabuhay po kayo, sampu ng iyong pamilya. God Bless po.

  81. Valdemar Valdemar

    Everything communist abroad are cheap. We bought supplies at incredibly low prices in communist or communist indoctrinated countries. Very disciplined. Crimes are insignificant. Here, the commies are very respectful. Very obedient. They dont have rustlers among them, nor rapists. A rowdy armed group passed a town where I stayed in Eastern Samar. After they left, I asked who those were,NPAs? Oh, no. Those were soldiers because they sequestered chicken and slapped many locals. I have attended their weddings in church, baptisms, etc. Who sez they dont have our God? Why be afraid of them? They are beautiful.

  82. For Japan based Filipinos. Panoorin ninyo ang palabas sa Channel 8 (Fuji TV) sa Huwebes from 11 pm tungkol sa mga kurakot sa Cebu at peace and order problem sa Pilipinas.

    Kilalang-kilala na sa kawalanghiyaan ang mga pulis at sundalo, lalo na iyong mga nagsisilbing private bodyguard ng mga politikong kurakot. Sabi ng isang kakilala kong journalist na nagtrabaho sa Pilipinas, gulat daw siya sa pulis doon. Sa araw pulis, sa gabi bugaw! Iyon iba naman magaling daw magdelihensiya.

    Dati daw hindi siya hanga sa mga pulis ng Japan, ngayon daw bilib na siya. At least, di daw corrupt na kasing corrupt ng mga sundalo’t pulis ng Pilipinas! Lalo na ngayong kurakot ang mga nasa itaas!

  83. balweg balweg

    Ka TonGuE-tWisTeD, alam mo I used this word “Ka” to give respect and i don’t have any intention in whatsoever our fellows who give other meanings, but i’m very happy to express my sincerity and respect to everybody.

    The word “KA” is a symbolic gesture of most of our Kababayang Pinoys to express their respect to others, tulad lang yan ng PO, at OPO (magalang ang dating, but some provinces did not use these words di ba!)

    Many folks used this word “Ka” in our society, kaya naging bukang-bibig na ng karamihang Pinoy.

  84. balweg balweg

    Folks, ito ang hirap sa marami nating Kababayan, pag ang pinag-uusapan eh para sa kapakanan ng Bayan at pagkakaisa ng mga Pinoy….kung anu-ano ang patudsa kesyo leftist, communist, rightist etc. etc.

    Di ba ang good term na itawag dito eh saan ba tayo nakatayo at naninindigan, TAMA o MALI ba? Kasi po kung ang pag-uusapan natin o pagtatalunan eh ideology aabutin tayo ng siyam-siyam at walang mangyayari sa ating buhay.

    Dapat pagtama eh dito tayo maninindigan at kung MALI naman eh kailangang itumpak o itama ito. Ang hirap sa marami nating Pinoy eh mga pasaway at kunsintidor, yong MALI eh iyong ang pinaggagagawa at yong TAMA eh ayaw sundin at gawin.

  85. Elvira Sahara Elvira Sahara

    “Ang hirap sa marami nating Pinoy eh mga pasaway at kunsintidor, yong MALI eh iyong ang pinaggagagawa at yong TAMA eh ayaw sundin at gawin.”
    AMEN…AMEN…!!
    Balweg:

    (makadugtong na nga)
    ..At dahil sa ganitong pag-uugali(?) ng marami sa ating mga Pinoy kaya naghihirap ang ating Sambayanan!

    Sabad gid!!!

  86. Valdemar Valdemar

    Dahil sa mali, many generals and those in the ranks and file get the medal. For not following the norms, they do things far and beyond the call of duty. Anything extraordinary is bravery or perhaps deliberate ommission and ignorance. Sa mga civilians naman, kung ano pa siya, makadios lamang, malayo ang paruruonan. Sa taas, o sa baba. Mas marami lang ang di tumaas.

  87. Valdemar Valdemar

    Rose,

    I am glad you brought that up. Imagine, ga ga gaga tawag sa akin ng mga chicks during my stint in Cebu. Binata pa ako noon. Now that they are married, they still call me that. Grrrr. Thanks anyway. Dont worry, I never get mad at ladies. Even to those with fond colloquial expression of it here.

  88. Petite:

    Where did I read that Jesus Christ was in fact a Socialist dahil mahal niya ang sanglibutan? Sa totoo lang ang mga unang kristyano ay nakatira sa mga commune para na rin sa sarili nilang mga protection. Iyong salitang “saints” na tawag nila sa mga sarili nila noon nga ay walang pinag-iba sa tawagan ng mga komunista sa mga kasama nila na “comrade.”

    Sa simbahan nga namin ang tawagan namin “brothers and sisters” at sa tagalog ay kapatid. Di ba iyong mga INK nga ang tawag nila sa isa’t isa may “Ka” din gaya noong isang INK dito sa Japan na dekonesa na si “Ka Linda.”

    Hindi naman komo Socialist and isang nilalang ay komunista na. Sa totoo lang maraming communist countries ang tawag nila sa bansa nila, democratic republic of this and that country.

    Lahat ng mga prejudices, etc. in fact ay dahil na rin sa kamangmangan. Mahirap magsalita kung nangangapa naman. I don’t kung wala akong alam. Ayoko kasing magmukhang tanga!

  89. chi chi

    balweg Says:

    January 30th, 2008 at 12:31 am

    Folks, ito ang hirap sa marami nating Kababayan, pag ang pinag-uusapan eh para sa kapakanan ng Bayan at pagkakaisa ng mga Pinoy….kung anu-ano ang patudsa kesyo leftist, communist, rightist etc. etc.

    ***

    Balweg,

    Ikaw na rin ang nagsabi na maraming pinoy ang meron ugaling crab mentality at inggetero.

    Itong Ellenville na lang, ang daming nagbabasa sa buong mundo kaya ang mga kababayan natin na OFWs at mga naninirahan sa ibang bansa ay nakakabalita ng mga tunay na pangyayari sa ilalim ng pekeng gobyerno ni Gloria Pidal. Hayan at marami ring bumabanat…kasi ay mas epektibo itong blog na ito kesa sa ibang outlet ng paghahanap ng “truth and justice”.

    Natutuwa ako at regular ka dito, I enjoy reading your posts, naka-apak ka sa lupa.

  90. balweg balweg

    Maligaya rin ako Chi sa inyong lahat na dinatnan ko sa Ellenville bilang senior mista, kasi nitong nagdaang panahon eh nag e enjoy lang akong magbasa ng newspapers at tatlo lang ang likes ko ang Malaya, Abante at The Daily Tribune.

    Pero napapasabak ako to depend our constitution at yong ipinaglalaban ng mga idealistic and nationalist soldiers natin and whoever stand in the path of truth.

    Nawa ang mga fellows bloggers natin at yong makakabasa nitong ating pag-uusap ay maging daan to enlighten them at magjoin sila to pursue our goals and visions for a better Philippines once and for ALL!

    Hangad ko na makialam na ang lahat especially OFWs and Migrant Pinoys para magkaroon ng check and balance sa ating gobyerno. At tulungan natin yong mga naninindigan sa atin bansa laban sa mga corrupt at sinungalin sa ating lipunan.

    Sila ang anaw na sumisira sa imahe ng ating Bansa at tisod sa pag-unlad nito plus pinag-aaway away nila ang mga Pinoy pero sila lang ang nagpapasasa sa kabang-yaman ni Mang Tomas.

    Ilang pamilya lang sa ating lipunan ang nagdidikta sa pangkalahatang takbo sa ating bansa, kung kaya nilang gawin ang pare-parehong lokohin tayo eh dapat magsikilos na tayo ang putilin ang kanilang pakpak sa pagdusta sa ating karapatan at kalayaan mabuhay ng matiwasay at mapayapa na mayroong 3 beses na pagkain sa hapag kainan.

  91. balweg balweg

    Kgg. Elvira Sahara pagka-minsan pagnagbubulay-bulayan ko na marami tayong kababayan na walang malasakit sa kapwa-tao at dedma lang kung ano ang nangyayari sa ating lipunan.

    Dito nga sa abroad, ang nagtitirahan at inggitan eh kapwa-Pinoy? Nawa eh mamulat na ang lahat to correct this wrong doings at ang maging sentro ng lahat si Ka Jesukristo, bakit ka mo, kasi nga itinuturing Niya tayong Kapatid not alipin.

    Sayang kung kailan pa naging edukado ang marami sa atin eh parang walang natutuhan sa buhay at ang umiiral eh yong fried chicken sa katawan. Dapat matutong kainin ang fried chicken ng maging mabait at mapagmahal na Pinoy di lamang sa sarili kundi sa kapwa-tao.

    Ang kayamanan sa mundong ibabaw at katanyagan eh di naman ninuman bibitbitin ito pagdumating na ang indulto sa kanyang buhay. Wala rin siyang madadala sa oras na magpaalam siya sa mundong ibabaw, so para ano pa kung mapasa atin ang lahat at lahat kung wala naman itong bungang idudulot sa ating mga buhay di ba.

    Hamon ito sa lahat ng mga Kinauukulan na magsitulad tayo sa mga naging Bayani at nagpapakabayani sa ating lipunan para sa kapakanan ng Bayan at kapwa-tao.

    Parang tulad ito ng Evil vs. Good! Tugma sa Police vs. Media! So, inshort parehong Pinoy di ba. Dapat ang ilako ng both parties eh Katotohanan lamang at join hand sa pagtataguyod ng mga bagay na ikabubuti ng bansa at ng mamamayan.

  92. zen2 zen2

    Balweg,

    marami kayong punto na ako man ay sumasang-ayon. this crazy game of ideological vetting is not only time consuming, it is definitely fruitless, and insanely destructive.

    the more than 800 murders, and disappearances, whose numbers continues to grow each passing day, is mainly attributed to this red-smearing campaign adopted by the Palace execute-thieves and backed by Garci-spawned cabal of generals.

  93. zen2 zen2

    Isagani,

    I missed your earlier posts. Kindly do me, but mainly yourself a favor, please qualify as to what a communist is, or what constitute being one.

    Btw, I take it with a sad note that you harbor a soft spot for Gloria, whom everyone here consider as Pekeng Pangulo.

  94. zen2 zen2

    Should anyone here gets abused and suffer the bad fortune of being branded as a destabilizer, or a communist by Esperon Razon Goonzales; that person gets my deepest bow of respect.

    And a space, a seat at my family’s dinner table.

  95. balweg balweg

    Zen2, napanood mo ba yesterday ang tag-of-war ng mga pulis patola vs. teachers & students at Luneta, just to express their grievances sa Arroyo regime.

    Ano ang response ng PNP maximum tolerance, kaya bukol at pasa ang inabot ng mga kaawa-awang Guro at Estudiante, ang gusto lamang eh madinig ang kanilang punto de bista.

    Dapat ang naging response nila eh upuan ang hinaing ng mga pobreng nagrally. Kamay na may yantok ang ipinang-upak sa mga pobre at buti na lamang walang baril kundi kasama silang masasalansan sa 800+ extrajudicial killings.

    Anong say mo about this barbaric action of our Kapulisan? Di na sila nagisip-isip sapagka’t ang ipinaglalaban ng mga pobre eh para sa panghalahatan at buti nga mayroon tayong kababayan tulad nila na may guts at detirminasyon sa buhay kumpara sa iba diyan playing with fire sa EK.

  96. balweg balweg

    Zen2,

    RE: Should anyone here gets abused and suffer the bad fortune of being branded as a destabilizer, or a communist by Esperon Razon Goonzales?

    Praise God, being a simple Pinoy and loving Pilipinos i did not encountered any misabused from this regime but sa kaibuturan ng aking puso kasama ako na inapakan nila ang ating karapatan at kalayaan since 2001.

    I cried when they trampled and violated the sanctity of our Constitution, kaya i stand in the path of truth to fight for the freedom of our country against these people.

    I joined in the EDSA III just to express our dissatisfaction and objection to their martial rule and illegal governance sa ating bansa.

    I stand in our Constitution, nothing else! I have no any agenda but to protect the sanctity of our Constitution against this regime.

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