War in Mindanao

Update from GMANews: Death toll in MILK attacks rises to more than 30.

From: Inquirer.net

At least 21 people have been killed and many others were wounded in attacks carried out in Lanao del Norte and Saranggani provinces by the members of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front that have since fled and were being pursued by troops, officials said Monday.

The Moro rebels, under the leadership of Commanders Bravo and Pangalian of the 102nd and 103rd brigade commands respectively, held ambuscades in several towns in these provinces, a week after the military flushed out their comrades under the command of Umbra Kato in North Cotabato province.

Chief Superintendent Nicanor Bartolome, PNP spokesman, said 21 people — seven still unidentified farmers of Barangay (village) Tapu, two civilians identified as Ricardo Gil and Ricky Salidad, and four other unidentified civilians were killed. The rest were soldiers
and militiamen.

“As early as 1 a.m. today [Monday], Maasim, Saranggani was attacked by armed elements of MILF followed by ambuscades in Lanao Norte municipalities,” Bartolome said in a press conference at Camp Crame national police headquarters.

The rebels also killed two bus passengers and Police Officer 1 Dexter Salvacion.

They also temporarily occupied Kolambugan after burning a police patrol car and attacking the municipal police station and other government offices there but were later flushed out during military operations, prompting the rebels to take 25 civilians and use them as human shields.

But Bartolome said that as of posting time, only 10 MILF hostages remained.

“The PNP, Armed Forces are doing our best to secure other areas in Lanao as well as other provinces affected by these movements by MILF personnel,” he said.

Brigadier General Hilario Atendido, chief of the counter-terrorism unit Task Force Tabak, said the Moro rebels left Kolambugan town at about noon, taking with them male hostages.

The rebels released their women and children hostages as they left, said Atendido.

“They left the area, that is the report from our ground troops,” Atendido said in a phone interview.

Asked what prompted the pullout, Atendido said: “They can’t stay there too long. They also felt the pressure from the military.”

Asked if all towns that were attacked by the MILF have been cleared, Atendido said: “As of now wala na [As of now, there's no more].”

“But clearing operations are still ongoing in Kolambugan because we have received reports that some rebels have disguised themselves as civilians,” he said.

Earlier in the day, MILF spokesman Eid Kabalu said the leadership has ordered its men to pull out from areas that they have occupied in Lanao del Norte, as the military launched offensives against the Muslim rebels, a spokesman for the MILF said.

“The MILF leadership ordered them to pullout, get out of the area,” MILF civil military affairs chief Eid Kabalu said in a phone interview Monday.

“We did not sanction this,” Kabalu said, referring to what he described as an “occupation” of Kolambugan and Kauswagan towns.

The military said the rebels attacked Kolambugan, Kauswagan, Maigo, Linamon, and portions of Iligan City.

Kabalu said the attack on the Lanao towns showed the rebels’ frustration over the pace of the peace negotiations.
Thea Alberto, Joel Guinto

August 18, 2008 5:20 pm   Posted in: Military, Mindanao

184 Responses

  1. Ellen - August 18, 2008 5:28 pm

    Gloria Arroyo’s statement:

    Mariing kino-kondena ko ang ‘di makatarungang pag-atake at paghasik ng karahasan ng MILF kaninang madaling araw sa ilang bayan ng Lanao del Norte.

    Ito ay hindi lamang paglabag sa kasunduang pang-kapayapaan, kundi isang hamon sa pangkalahatang pagnanais ng sambayanan ng katahimikan at kaunlaran sa buong isla ng Mindanao.

    Because of this sneaky and treacherous attack, as your commander-in-chief, I have ordered the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) and the Philippine National Police (PNP) to defend every inch of Philippine territory against MILF forces, and immediately restore peace in the affected areas in Lanao de Norte.

    We will not tolerate — I will crush any attempt to disturb peace and development in Mindanao.

    I am also calling for an emergency meeting of the National Security Council (NSC) this afternoon to assess the situation in Lanao del Norte and other areas in Mindanao, and come up with concrete, firm and decisive action to defend the peace-loving people of Mindanao.

    Again, I assure the Filipino people that the government will defend them at all costs against enemies and any group that will detract our aspiration for a genuine and lasting peace — not only in Mindanao but in the whole country.

    I am with you in peace. We are all in this together.

    Maraming salamat po.

  2. Tilamsik - August 18, 2008 5:36 pm

    Heto na nag umpisa na at antimano may statement na ang Reyna… uuhhmm, (parang may kulay ito ah). Malamang may susunod pa dyan.

  3. Ellen - August 18, 2008 5:42 pm

    Statement of AFP Chief Alexander Yano:

    Military Action launched in Mindanao.

    1. The recent MILF-perpetrated incidents in Mindanao, starting with the ambush of military troops by MILF members in Lanao del Sur yesterday, Aug. 17, is a virtual declaration of war against the duly-constituted authority and this was confirmed by Commander Bravo’s declaration of jihad;

    2. The AFP shall not allow this to go on. We cannot allow ambuscades, arson, kidnapping, hostage-taking, blocking of main highway and otehr atrocities to be perpetrated by the MILF against the Filipino people. We are now taking military action to stop these atrocities;

    3. These developments are clear manifestations of the insincerity to the peace of a significant portion of the MILF;

    4.It appears that several MILF sub-commanders are not controlled by the MILF leadership and are justusing the peace process as a blanket to launch violent attacks against the people of Mindanao;

    5.We have sufficient troops on the ground and our ground commanders are very much aware of the developments. Appropriate actions will be taken to accomplish our mission while giving due consideration on avoiding collateral damage to civilians;

    6. We have launched military operations in several areas in Mindanao. This will go on until the perpetrators are punished and normalcy is established in the end.

  4. Ellen - August 18, 2008 5:48 pm

    Statement of Parañaque Rep. Roilo Golez:

    The government offensive is necessary while pursuing peace through the peace process. In the human history of peace talks (like in Vietnam, even Ireland, Sri Lanka, etc.) it is possible, at times advisable to conduct police/military action simultaneous with peace talks.

    That is meant to strengthen the government’s bargaining position and impress upon the other party the costliness (in economic terms and human lives) of war.

  5. Ellen - August 18, 2008 5:59 pm

    Statement of Atty. Adel Tamano, a Muslim and spokesman of the United Opposition:

    I call upon all our leaders, both Muslim and Christian to make a strong and unqualified call to end all hostilities between the government and the MILF.

    Now is not the time for blame and finger-pointing but for statemanship on all sides.

    I challenge all our leaders to set aside their own agendas and make an unequivocal call for peace and unity.

  6. cg_pinas - August 18, 2008 6:01 pm

    Gloria, buong pamilya ko nasa Mindanao ngayun gumulo dahil sa utak mo! Mga busit talaga kayo ni Esperon ginulo nyo ang nanahimik na bayan para sa sariling interest. One day babayaran nyo ang ginawa. Bwisit ka na talaga pekeng Gloria.Sarap ubusin lahi mo para wala ng salot sa bansang ito. Ngayun unting uti na nag simula ang gulo sa Iligan, kamag anak ko hindi na nila ano gagawin dahil daming bumba naka tanim. Gloria Arroyo Macapagal, una sa lahat hindi kita nirespito dahil pekeng presidente ka kaya lahat ng disisyon ay kabusitan sa bayan.

    Pagbayaran mo ginawa mo.hindi ako papayag na basta ka lalaho parang bola.

    sorry, ellen wla na akung malabasan ng galit habang dito ako sa malayo.

  7. Ellen - August 18, 2008 6:05 pm

    Statement of the Philippine National Police:

    Police and military troops pushed back a large formation of MILF renegades that attacked several shoreline towns in Lanao del Norte early this morning.

    This developed as PNP Chief, Director General Avelino I Razon Jr., ordered PNP Regional Offices in Mindanao to be on alert for possible hostilities by the MILF, as well as against the CPP/NPA that may take advantage of the situation.

    All the six PNP Regional Offices in Mindanao remain on full alert.

    In a news conference in Camp Crame, PNP Spokesman, Chief Superintendent Nicanor A Bartolome said the PNP units are assisting local government units in attending to some 7,000 evacuees that fled to some barangays in the towns of Kauswagan, Kolambugan, Maigo and Linamon where MILF renegades from the 102nd Brigade under Abdullah Saber Macapaan alias Commander Bravo; and 103rd Brigade under Aleem Sulaiman Pangalian alias Commander Pangalian went on a shooting rampage at dawn today killing at least 18 persons.

    Local police forces from the Lanao del Norte Police Provincial Office augmented by Philippine Army troops backed by armored fighting vehicles pushed back the marauders who withdrew towards the Lanao del Norte-Lanao del Sur boundary.

    “Our troops gave them a good fight and later in the day the MILF attackers were seen withdrawing from the areas it earlier occupied,” Bartolome said.

    The PNP recorded separate incidents of shooting by the MILF in the province that resulted in mostly civilian casualties.

    In Kauswagan town, the MILF attackers executed seven farmers in Barangay Tacub. Three other peasants were wounded.

    At 4:30 AM, MILF staged an ambush in Barangay Kulasihan in Kolambugan town killing two persons on board a Bachelors Bus.

    PO1 Dexter Salvacion, assigned with the nearby Balingao Police Station, was riding a motorcycle to report for duty when he was ambushed and killed in the same location. Also killed was another motorcycle rider, Ricky Sulicar of Guillamacs Marketing.

    The MILF attackers also ambushed a multi-cab utility vehicle (KCP-986) wherein two occupants of the vehicle, Ricardo Gil and an unidentified woman were killed.

    No casualties were reported among passengers of RTMI Bus no. 1567 when MILF renegades opened fire on the moving bus.

    There were also reports of arson and looting in some of the affected towns.

  8. Ellen - August 18, 2008 6:12 pm

    cg_pinas, naintidihan ko ang galit mo, ngunit tanda ng maturity ng isang tao kung paano siya mag-react sa sitwasyon.

    Iwasan mo ang puro all capitalized na comments. Hindi maganda basahin.

  9. Etnad - August 18, 2008 7:20 pm

    Peste talaga si Glorya.

  10. prans - August 18, 2008 8:14 pm

    18 Agosto 2008

    Ngayon ko gusto marinig sa mga negosyador ng kapayapaan sa mindanao, lalo na sa impakta, na kung tama ba ang pirmahan ang MOA-AD??? ipinakikita lang naman ng MILF ang tunay na kulay nila. Kung gusto nila ng katahimikan, bakit hindi nila pigilan ang kanilang hanay???masyado silang madaming dahilan na “lost comand” at kung anu-ano pa ang mga naghahasik na lagim. Meron pa na hindi daw nila mapipigilan ang kanilang hanay kapag hindi nasunod ang MOA-AD. Ano ang ibig sabihin nila???sila ang masusunod sa lahat???

    Kung hindi masyadong naging ambisyoso yang impkata na yan, kasama ng kanyang mga kampon, hindi sana mangyayari yan. Nasaan na sila??? baka sabihin nila, and dapat sisihin dyan e yung mga kontra sa MOA-AD na yan??? baka nahihibang sila, dapat sa kanila ay mag-isip-isip muna, mga dati kayong mga sundalo, hindi nyo ba naaalala ang pinagagagawa ng mga yan sa mga kasundaluhan???

    Buset!!!!! talagang buset……

    prans

  11. Diego K. Guerrero - August 18, 2008 8:36 pm

    RE: as your commander-in-chief, I have ordered the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) and the Philippine National Police (PNP) to defend every inch of Philippine territory against MILF forces.

    Who’s talking? Gloria Arroyo started the mess in Mindanao Island. She had already given up large vast of track of lands to MILF in the so-called Memorandum of Agreement (MoA) on Ancestral Domain, and her treacherous act unnecessarily putting Filipino soldiers and the police in harm’s way. Gloria Arroyo is the problem. It’s about time to kick her ass ‘til thy kingdom come.

  12. chi - August 18, 2008 8:36 pm

    “I will crush any attempt to disturb peace and development in Mindanao.” – Gloria

    HA!HA!HA! Commander-in-chief daw o!

  13. chi - August 18, 2008 8:41 pm

    Nilabag ng MILF ang “kasunduan” sabi ni Gloria.

    Kasunduang pabor lang sa kanya!

    Sige Gloria. Inumpisahan mo ang traydoran, tapusin mo ang moro-morong labanan! Tangna ka!

  14. Ellen - August 18, 2008 8:42 pm

    A military officer sent me this text:

    GMA’s press release on the MILF attacks is classic example of “the arsonists who acted as firemen at the expense of poor household owners.”

  15. chi - August 18, 2008 8:46 pm

    Umutot na naman si Pandack Omama! Isang bala lang ang mga kalaban, for the ‘inth time!

  16. Valdemar - August 18, 2008 9:03 pm

    No finger pointing. Yeah, but lets analyse whats on the ground. We have many fronts at all sides and the military do not know where the unseen opponent will hit next. Its like Iraq. The civilians are the sittng ducks. Casualties and burnt houses are just datas under the column collateral damage. Just for today, who get the most medals? I would think the other side has most bemedalled fighters and planners. And imagine orders are made through cellphones. Where are our wiretappers!

  17. chi - August 18, 2008 9:07 pm

    Talaga, Ellen. The “poor household owners” are the real victims here.

    Ang higit na nakakabwisit…The latest FORTUNE magazine has a 15-page special advertising section featuring Gloria Makapal Arrovo Pidal and her gang of thieves.

    Gloria’s message begins with “Grettings! My countrymen…”

    What, the master thief addressing her kapinuyan via Fortune mag?! Sira ang tuktok talaga. Ni hindi nga makabili ng bigas ang kanyang countrymen, bibili pa ng Fortune para mabasa ang kanyang pagbati at pambobola. Pekeng-peke, gaya ng pagbati sa mga pinoy sa lenguaheng tagalog habang nasa tabi si Dubya sa Oval office.

    Ano ang ginagawa ng animal na ito sa Fortune samantalang gumagawa ng sariling moro-moro sa Mindanao at ang buong Pinas ay naglulupasay sa gutom? How many millions of dollars was paid for this Fortune special advertisement?

    Iba ng ginagawa sa sinasabi. The rPresident Evil knows no bound and she will continue to stump on us and make us all look fools as long as she can, if we let her.

  18. chi - August 18, 2008 9:10 pm

    Gusto kung patunayan ni Gen. Yano na ‘Iisang bansa, iisang Pilipinas lang’ ang kanyang ipinaglalaban/ipaglalaban!

  19. EddFajardo - August 18, 2008 9:15 pm

    These renewed atrocities committed by the MILF among our Christian brothers in the South was the product of Gloria Arroyo’s unsuccessful attempt to win the support of the Muslims at the expense of her people. Siya ang dahilan kung bakit giyera na naman sa Mindanao. Ano pa ba ang ginagawa ninyo mga katoto. Hinahayaan ninyo kasi na lapastanganin ni Gloria ang Constitution natin kaya tayo nagdurusa na naman ngayon. This is a position of weakness. Dapat talaga mag ala-Musharaff na siya.

  20. Etnad - August 18, 2008 9:44 pm

    Naa-awa ako sa mga kababayan natin sa Mindanao Kristiyano man o Muslim na namamatay dahil lang sa kagagawan ng Glorya at mga alipores niyang Ex-Generals. Paalisin na kasi yang mga yan sa Malakanyang bago mahuli ang lahat.

  21. bitchevil - August 18, 2008 10:14 pm

    All these things have long been planned and orchestrated backed by the US. GMA is like a mad dog ready to bite everyone that blocks her way.

  22. prans - August 18, 2008 10:24 pm

    18 Agosto 2008

    Tama ka bitchevil, aso nga ang impakta, ASONG ULOL na napakawalan ng mga kano, para pag nakagat na nyang lahat, sya naman ang itatapon sa kangkungan ng mga kano.

    Kaya ang ginagawa ng asong ulon, hindi nya muna lahat kinakagat, para hindi sya itapon ng mga kano.

    prans

  23. Tilamsik - August 18, 2008 10:28 pm

    An opening salvo of an orchestrated war all the way to Cha-Cha.

    Kaiingat kayo matatangos ang ilong at mapuputing puwit ang kalaban. Nakamaskara laban sa terorismo, pinatutupad ng reyna ng makapili ang kanilang kahayupan. Kapalit ang pangmatgalang poder sa palasyo.

    Humanda kabataan, estudyante, mangagawa at magsasaka huwag biguin ang mga bayaning nabuwal para sa kalayaan.

  24. Chabeli - August 18, 2008 10:51 pm

    What I cannot stomach in the statement released by this antipatica Gloria is “I am with you in peace. We are all in this together.”

    How can she say that ??!! Teka muna, she is NOT with us in peace !! She created this war to begin with & put us in this mess !! We are NOT all in this together !!

    Gloria should be given a gun & sent to Mindanao to fight the war she created !! Come to think of it, if the MILF is saying that the ones causing the recent bombings, explosions, etc, in Mindanao is not authorized by them, then who is causing it ? Only someone who is desperate to stay in power; someone who wants to declare a state of emergency..hmmmm, who could that be ?

  25. bitchevil - August 18, 2008 10:56 pm

    Here comes another idiot coming out with a stupid idea. Kiko Pangilinan announced that they’re organizing a Third Force against Administration and Opposition…so that people have a better choice. Do you know why this Kiko is thinking of that?
    Because he has nowhere to go. Both the Administration and Opposition don’t want him.

  26. chi - August 18, 2008 11:10 pm

    Gloria ordered the AFP and PNP via press release “to defend every inch of Philippine territory against MILF forces…”

    Nagpapatawa! E bakit niya inuukay-ukay at pa-traydor at pilit na inihiwalay sa kabuuan ng Pilipinas?!

    Ang Spratly’s na sakop ng Pinas ay ipinamimigay rin niya. Ano ang pinagsasabi ng animal na ito na “defend every inch” of Pinas territory! Malaki ang sapak!

  27. bitchevil - August 18, 2008 11:16 pm

    Maybe she means defend every inch of her fat husband’s small dick.

  28. chi - August 18, 2008 11:20 pm

    Chabs,

    Moro-moro from the start nga e. Just don’t know why the AFP under Yano is dancing her tune. Waste of lives, sundalos and everyone else’s as well.

    If not MILF authorized, the ones causing the bombings might be mercenaries paid for by the animal who gains by having a well-scripted war in Mindanao.

  29. grizzy - August 18, 2008 11:21 pm

    Best thing for the idiot to do is quit. Niloko at pinaasa niya ang MILF kung tutulungan siya. Alam ng marami ang deal niya sa mga unggoy para matupad ang pangarap niyang magin reyna kahit na ipapugot niya ang mga ulo ng mga sundalo noong nakaraan sa Basilan. Kung sinu-sino pa ang pinagbintangan alam naman ng lahat na kakutsaba nilang mag-asawa ang mga salarin. Puede ba, tama na ang arte ng sinungaling. May naniniwala pa ba diyan?

  30. etcetera - August 18, 2008 11:25 pm

    The posting of chi about chuwawa’s current 15 page advertising on FORTUNE magazine is alarming. This FORTUNE magazine is widely distributed throughout US and Europe. Bakit kinakailangang mag pabango itong criminal na bansot na to at ang mga pidal sa US at Europa?

    No major American or European media reported any malfeasance committed by this criminal government. Why? As we know now, it is because of their self interest in Mindanao concerning natural gas, oil, and future large US bases in Mindanao.

    So, why advertise in an international magazine like FORTUNE which is widely distributed in US and Europe? Since US and European media never reported any criminals acts by these Pidal gangsters? There is nothing to cover up by way of advertisement?

  31. Chabeli - August 18, 2008 11:26 pm

    Bitchevil, I agree 500% with you re Kiko ! Indeed, “he has nowhere to go. Both the Administration and Opposition don’t want him.” He doesn’t look much less talk like a Third Force.

    Kiko will forever be known as Mr Noted next, of course to Mr Sharon Cuneta.

  32. Chabeli - August 18, 2008 11:33 pm

    Chi, let’s wait & see on this Yano. I hope I’m not wrong, but my impression of him is that he is not a dick head like Esperon. Can you imagine what will happen to the military if Gloria declares martial law or a state of emergency ? I think that the military will not stay solidly behind Gloria at that point. Col Querubin, Sen Trillanes, Gen Lim, Gen Miranda et al were right all along — we have a desperate president who will do anything, & at all cost, to stay in power. Gloria IS the enemy.

  33. Chabeli - August 18, 2008 11:34 pm

    Chi, I haven’t seen the 15-page ad Gloria placed in Fortune mag, but Fortune must be doing sooooo bad in ads that they had to accept ads from a midget !

  34. bitchevil - August 18, 2008 11:39 pm

    Chabeli, Gen. Yano’s indecisive. His name says it…Sometimes, he says Ya and sometimes No.

  35. chi - August 18, 2008 11:42 pm

    Chabs,

    Anybody is better than the Ass, same as even Anna’s pet is way better to lead than Gloria. Yung pet ni Anna ay nangangagat ng enemy while Gloria embraces them for her political survival.

  36. chi - August 18, 2008 11:44 pm

    August 18 issue, Chabs.

    Nasuka nga ako e!

  37. chi - August 18, 2008 11:50 pm

    With FORTUNE’s special ads, it only shows Gloria’s priority…ang kumendeng-kendeng sa international stage. She’s definitely selling her rotten self again to the first world leaders and ‘begging’ for support.

    Bahala na ang pinoy na mag-gera…tayo-tayo lang naman ang nagpapatayan. Basta si Gloria ay nasa FORTUNE mag!

  38. etcetera - August 18, 2008 11:56 pm

    Look at the way this pidal mafia works.

    This MOA-AD is supposed to conform within the legal framework of our constitution. But what are they trying to do, this chuwawa and her pidal gangsters? They want the constitution to follow the MOA-AD, in other words, to amend our constitution so that it will conform with MOA-AD instead of that MOA-AD to conform our constitution or follow our constitution. They are doing it the reverse way.

    Remember that poster who used to post here. He seems to be drunk or pretend to be drunk whenever he post here. He said something about the reverse engineering of marcos martial rule perpetrated by this pidal mafia.

    Is this advertisement on FORTUNE magazine part of Pidal gangsters methodology, which I call reverse methodoly. The normal procedure is for the bad things to happen first before you do your cover up by way of advertisement. The pidals way is to do the reverse which is by doing the advertisement first before they do the bad things?

    I guess, what I am trying to say is this: This FORTUNE magazine advertisement is a pre-emptive strike before they execute their sinister plan.

  39. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 12:03 am

    We need not go to the detail. The fact that they almost signed the MOA without first consulting people was itself done in bad faith. When it was brought up to the Supreme Court and oral hearings are conducted, Malacanang turned around and said
    “That’s good. At least, both side’s argument would be heard”.
    Had the MOA issue not raised in time, the MOA would have been signed in Malaysia giving the MILF more reasons to occupy the lands. Even the US Ambassador was ready to witness the signing. Saved by the bell!

  40. atty36252 - August 19, 2008 12:11 am

    Defend every inch. Agreed.

    Dahil pinamigay mo na, so yung dating territory in square kilometers, inches na lang.

  41. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 12:17 am

    So, from now on the Philippines would be measuring the roads by inches and not kilometers.

  42. chi - August 19, 2008 12:21 am

    Hahaha! You made my day, atty.

  43. Cocoy's Delight - August 19, 2008 1:09 am

    Are we seeing a war? Is Arroyo turning Mindanao out to be another Afghanistan?

    Arroyo has a guts to ordered troops to restore peace in affected areas and she condemned the sneaky and treacherous attacks as a violation of the peace agreement and a challenge to progress in Mindanao.

    Aha!Arroyo did not study her history well enough about the muslims in Mindanao.It was them who shoot the big screen on the theater every time Max Alvarado or Paquito Diaz beat up their Idol Fernando Poe Jr.

    Muslim leaders are hard pressed to take charge, asserting their faith and rights as citizens, affirming freedom of expression while rejecting its abuse as a cover for prejudice. A sharp line must be drawn between legitimate forms of dissent and fake president play a critical role.

  44. Settlers - August 19, 2008 4:26 am

    Masakit magsalita ang mga Kristyanus against our brothers in Islam who are members of MILF fighters.Kung galit kayo kay Gloria na katulad ninyong Kristyanus huwag ninyong idamay ang mga kapatid naming MILF.Dahil unang-una kayo rin ang may problema at ang pangulo ninyong peke.Wala ba kaming karapatan na magkaroon ng aming sariling determinasyon sa aming ekonomiya at aming sariling pamumuhay,ayun sa kinamulatan naming sistema ng panggobyerno,relihiyon,batas,na daang taon na naming inaasam na maibalik sa amin ang tunay pamamahala sa aming lupain sa Mindanao????Si Gloria ay ibang isyu,sumakay siya dito pero ang katotohanan ay andyan pa rin na may karapatan kami na mabawi ang tunay na sa amin.Ngayon kung by default ay nasakop ninyo ang Mindanao sa simula ng pagkakatatag ng inyong Pilipinas,ito ay babawiin namin by all means si Gloria man o hindi ang pangulo ninyo wala kaming paki-alam.Ang katotohanan dito ay pilit ninyong tinatakpan sa pagsisisi kay Gloria ang tunay na issue sa kaguluhang ito.At huwag ninyong sabihin at i justify ang ginawang panggugulo ng MILF dahil sa mga kamalian ni Gloria,ay wala kaming karapatan na bawiin namin ang sa amin.Si Gloria man o sino mang herodes dyan mananatili ang katotohanang babawiin namin ang sa amin.Natatabunan na tuloy yung issue ng karapatan namin mga muslim na magkaroon ng sariling pamamahala sa aming mga natural resources at pang lipunang pamumuhay.Yang status quo at konstitusyon na yan,ay hindi sagot sa aming problema,maging ang sharing ng economic development at budget ay hindi pa rin sapat,sapagkat ang gusto namin ay islamikong pangobyerno,batas,at panlipunan.Hindi matutugunan ng Korte Suprema ang kaguluhang ito at maging lahat ng petition ay i file nila Mar Roxas,Franklin Drilon,Money Pinol sa lahat ng Korte sa buong mundo ay hindi matugunan ang kaguluhang yan.Pwera na lang kung bigyan ng Kalayaan kaming mga Moro upang magkaroon ng sariling determinasyon sa aming buhay,sariling batas,territoryo at pang gobyerno na ayun sa aming relihiyon na Islamiko.

  45. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 4:39 am

    Settlers, Christians and Muslims are not against one another. We have a common enemy; that is, the illegal occupant of Malacanang and foreign countries whose evil motive is to serve their own selfish interest at the expense of the Filipino people, Muslims and Christians alike. We recognize how much our Muslim brothers have been suffering for many years. However, it’s another thing to protect one’s interest and rights; and it’s another thing to use violence as the means of which poor civilians are the victims. Muslims are not the ones being used as pawns by this evil government; even other Christians and Filipinos throughout the country. For as long as this Evil Bitch remains in power, any step to be taken no matter how good the intention is would be in vain. The Bitch’s evil agenda has long been unmasked from her day one in office.

  46. Settlers - August 19, 2008 4:41 am

    Kung sasabihin ninyo na treachery ang ginawa ng MILF,bakit ang ginagawa ng leader ninyo diba treachery din?Kung nanggugulo ang MILF ngayon,wala bang dahilan?Kung sasabihin ninyo na walang kontrol ang MILF peace panel sa mga MILF fighters,bakit may kontrol ba ang national government kay MONEY PINOL and Cohorts?Bakit nang nag-alsa ang mga magdalo laban kay Gloria may kontrol din ba ang Pamahalaan???Ganun din sa panig ng MILF natural lang na magagalit ang nasa baba at mawala sa kontrol dahil sa panlilinlang ng nasa taas ninyo!Ngayon sasabihin ninyo bakit idinadamay ang sibilyan na mga kristyanus?Bakit hindi ba kayo kasama sa pakikibaka rin sa pagtaboy sa MILF,dito nga sa Blog na ito justified na kaaway kayo ng mga MILF,bakit military ba kayo?diba mga sibilyan kayo,at kulang na lang sa inyo baril at nakipagbarilan na kayo sa MILF,so sibilyan na kristyano e kaaway din kayo e.Hindi kayo sibilyan na tulad ng iba,kayoy kaaway na sibilyan.Pasalamat nga kayo at babae at bata ay bawal sa pananampalataya namin na idamay.Kayong mga sibilyan na kristyanus ay kaaway din,klarong klaro dito sa BLOG sino ang niloloko ninyo?Sinunog nga ang kabahayan ng mga sibilyang muslim diba?At kayong mga sibilyang kristyanus ay masaya pa nga at sinasabi nga ninyo buti nga.Ganun din ang mga MILF itinuturing kayong mga kristyanus na sibilyan na mga kaaway dahil sa inyong mga statement dito sa blog diba?

  47. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 4:47 am

    Excuse me, the Evil Bitch is not our leader. We don’t recognize her. The best thing to do at this point is to for Muslims and Christians to unite and remove this fake President. That’s the most immediate problem…and then peace may finally come to Mindanao and the whole country.

  48. Settlers - August 19, 2008 4:55 am

    Bakit hindi natin aminin na lang talaga na ang Kristyanus ay galit sa muslim at kaming mga muslim ay ayaw din namin sa inyo,diba?Huwag na tayong magplastikan,dahil kung sinseridad ang pag-usapan sinsero kami kung lokohan naman aba saan ba kami natuto diba sa inyo?Sino ba ang unang nanloloko?Simula pa sa panahon ng kastila hanggang sa kasalukuyan puro panloloko ang gingawa ninyo sa mga Moro at ang ibang moro ay natututo na rin sa inyo tulad ng mga Ampatuan at ang mga politikong MUNAFIC na nakipagsabwatan sa inyong mga leaders.Magpakatotoo tayo!

  49. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 5:05 am

    The problem between Christians and Muslims has been there for centuries. Both try to occupy each other’s land and convert one another. But, are we to be blamed for being Christians and Muslims? Many were born and grew up being in such religions, although we see lots of conversion going on from both sides lately. Look at history, most conflicts and wars are caused by religion. Sometimes, I would like to believe that it’s better not to have religion at all and just believe in the Supreme Being.

  50. Settlers - August 19, 2008 5:09 am

    ipagpalagay natin na matanggal si Gloria, tapos? wala na yung aming kalayaan na magkaroon ng sarli naming determinasyon para sa amin?Let say ang ilagay ninyong pangulo tulad ng Ilonggo na si Mar Roxas,o di kaya si Lacson o di kaya si Villar o di kaya si Money Pinol,sa palagay mo ba matugunan nila ang aming minimithi?O di kaya si Legarda?hahahahaha nakakatawa kayo pare-pareho kayong lahat magaling mang-uto,parang si pangilinan din e.IIsa lang ang tanging hinangaan ko sa senado si Pimentel lang.Sabi ninyo command responsibility,bakit sa mga pinagpapatay at dinukot ng military may nanagot ba na leader?May nakulong ba na pinuno nila?Nang maghasik ng black propaganda si Pinol may command responsibility ba?Gusto ninyo mananagot ang leadership ng MILF sa command rsponsibility pero sa inyong side may nanagot ba?Yung mga CVO na nag armas at nanunog ng bahay ng mga muslim na sibilyan may command responsibility ba?Sino mananagot nun?Si Ronaldo Puno na mahangin ba???

  51. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 5:15 am

    The Mindanao problem cannot be solved overnight. It’s a very long painful process. Each side must show patience and sincerity. The question about who shall replace Gloria to solve the problem is the question of many; and this is not only about the Mindanao problem but all the problems we currently face under this fake and evil regime.

    We’re all like in a plane, ship or car. Muslims and Christians are riding together; but we have a very bad crazy driver. How can these brothers talk about peace when they must worry about their safety under the insane driver?

  52. Settlers - August 19, 2008 5:16 am

    bitchevil InSha Allah magdilang anghel ka sa mga sinsabi mo kasi wala na kaming tiwala sa mga kristyanus!Ganun din kayo sa inyu,tulad nitong dalaw na sa DZRH mga bias na broadcasters at WAR MONGER dapat dito sa DZRH pagpapatayin itong mga ito ang sinisisi lang ang MILF,tanungin dapat nila ang kabilang side bakit ngakaganito,sila ang sasagot niyan si Money Pinol,Mar Roxas,Franklin Drilon.Saan na sila hindi na sila nagsasalita?Wala na silang sinasabi na petition dapat sila ang magpetition ngayon,diba?O ngayon gusto nila ang military mag petition diba?dapat itong mga ito sila si Lobregat,Pinol,Roxas,Cruz,Drilon at lahat ng Anti-Moro/MILF na mga Kristyanus at saka itong mga bias na Broadcasters,diba?

  53. Settlers - August 19, 2008 5:23 am

    dapat sa nangyayari ngayon sa mindanao magsalita dapat si mar roxas na ilonggo,diba si money pinol na may 2000 hectares na gumahan,100 hectares na african oil,may 16 hectares na manukan na pangsabong at mga imported na kambingan,may nag imbestiga ba dito sa money pinol na ito?may journalist ba na nagpaimbestiga sa pamilyang ito?si ellen tordesillas may kakayahn ba na ipamedia ang mga unexplain wealth ng mga pinol?hinahamon ko si ellen tordesillas kung magawa mong mapa imbestigahan at ma media si money pinol maaring magbago ang aming pananaw nagyon sa kay ellen tordesillas.

  54. Maglulupa - August 19, 2008 5:28 am

    Bakit hindi pumunta ang MILF sa Manila at hanapin ang pekeng pangulo? Bakit ang mga walang malay ang dapat patayin ng mga MILF? Kung talagang may bayag ang mga MILF sumugod sa mga kampo ng mga militar hindi yung mga kawawang sibilyan na walang malay na nag papakahirap magbungkal ng lupa.

  55. Settlers - August 19, 2008 5:35 am

    Wala sa MILF ang ugaling mang-atake ng hindi sa kanyang lugar ang Manila ay hindi sakop ng Mindanao,at wala sa prinsipyo ng MILF na mang-atake ng bahay ng may bahay,ang Mindanao ay bahay namin,kayo mga Kristyanus ang pumasok sa Mindanao at nang-agaw ng mga lupa ng moro sa pamamagitan ng batas na pinahintulot ng Manila diba?Dineklara ng inyong gobyernong manila na ang mindanao ay kasama sa teritoryo ng Pilipinas at ang lupain ng Mindanao ay ginawang public land,na itoy ancestral land ng mga moro.Ngayon sa sarili naming bahay lang kami dumidepensa,kung andyan si Gloria sa Mindanao maaring mangyari ang sinabi mo diba?

  56. Settlers - August 19, 2008 5:40 am

    Nagpapakahirap ng pagbungkal ng lupa ng mga moro at ang moro ay wala ng binubungkal dahil ipinamimigay ng gobyerno ninyo sa mga taga Visayas at Luzon at pinoprotektahan ng inyong mga sundalo diba?Tulad ng ginawa sa mga taga bukidnon diba?Mga lumad na ang kanilang lupain ay ibinigay sa purefoods at san miguel at dole at iba pa.So ngayon,sila ang bubungkalin namin para pag wala na sila dyan kami na ang magbungkal diba sa lupain namin diba?Tama ba ako o mali

  57. Maglulupa - August 19, 2008 5:46 am

    Aba sino ba talaga ang ng agaw ng lupa sa Mindanao? Bakit nilalahat mo ang mga kristyano? Ang Iglesia ba ni Kristo ay may malawak na lupain sa Mindanao? Si Bro. Mike ba ng El Shaddai ay nakabile ng lupain sa Mindanao? Kahit ako hindi ako bibile ng lupa sa Mindanao angkinin nyo na. Ang aking punto dito yung walang malay na nadadamay sa digmaan. Na sila ay Pilipino mapa Kristiyano man o Muslim.

  58. Settlers - August 19, 2008 5:54 am

    Sino ang nagsabi na Pilipino kami?akoy nagsasalita ng inyong salita pero hindi ibig sabihin na pilipino ako!Moro ako moro kami at pilipino kayo,Muslim kami at kristyanus kayo?diba?Bakit ang mga anak namin,hindi ba nadadamay sa pang-aagaw ninyo ng lupa?Ang anak ba namin hindi ba biktima ng injustices ng gobyerno ninyo?Kawalan ng hustisya para sa kinabukasan mga mga batang moro at darating na henerasyon ng mga moro.Mas mabuti pang maubos na kami sa pagkamatay kaysa makikita namin kung paano unti-unting naging busabos ang aming darating pang mga henerasyun dahil sa lupaing pinamigay ng inyung gobyernong pilipino.Iglesia man or El Shadaai or Katoliko lahat kayo kristyano pilipino indio,diba?

  59. Maglulupa - August 19, 2008 5:57 am

    Hindi ako naniniwala dyan ang alam ko halos lahat ng mga Pilipinong mahihirap ay nangingibang bayan kahit sila ay maging alipin ng ibang lahi mula Aparri hanggang Jolo sila ay gustong makaalis sa Pilipinas dahil sa kahirapan.
    Kapatid pumunta ka ng Norte lalo na sa Baguio ang dami ng kapatid na Muslim doon, tinanong ko nga yung isa kung bakit sila umalis sa Mindanao. Ang sagot sa akin ayaw pa niyang mamatay gusto pa niyang makita ang Pilipinas na magkaisa isang diwa, isang lahi…. Pilipino, Muslim man o Kristiyano.

  60. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 6:40 am

    I can understand how Settlers feel. The Muslims have long been abused and victimized. Many of those who oppose the ARMM or granting them lands are protecting their own interests. That’s why even the Catholic Church is complaining because the church owns so many lands from Luzon to Mindanao.

  61. xman - August 19, 2008 6:58 am

    Sino ba ang orihinal na residente ng Mindanao bago nagkaroon ng Moro o Mohammedan Filipinos? Diba ang mga Lumad? So, sino ngayon ang nang agaw ng mga lupain ng Lumad? Diba kayong mga moro.

    At saka bakit ang mga Muslim ay gusto palaging humiwalay sa bansang kinagisnan nila? Katulad sa Africa. Wala naman talagang mga Muslim sa Africa na katulad ng Nigeria pero ang mga converts na Muslim doon ay gusto nilang magkaroon ng sariling bansa. Ganon din sa India.

    Kailan ba nag umpisa ang Muslim religion? Diba noong 16th Century? Before 16th century walang Muslim sa mundo. Kaya bago dumating ang Muslim sa mundo ang talagang orihinal na residente ng mga bansa sa buong mundo ay hindi mga Muslim.

  62. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 7:06 am

    I got a point, xman. But no one, no group can claim ownership of the world. Sometimes, religion destroys people than benefit them.

  63. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 7:08 am

    Correction: You (not I) got a point. This debate about who has the right, has more right, who comes first is a never ending debate.

  64. xman - August 19, 2008 7:25 am

    Bitchevil, sabi mo kanina ay ganito:

    Sometimes, I would like to believe that it’s better not to have religion at all and just believe in the Supreme Being.

    Ano ba ang religion mo?

  65. chi - August 19, 2008 7:26 am

    Gloria undergoes stress test (daw).

    So? Buti nga kung matuluyan. Tuwinang may malaking gulo dala ng kanyang kababuyan ay kunwaring nagkakasakit/nai-stress ang impakta para kunwari ay talagang ‘concern’ siya sa mga nangyayari sa kapinuyan, magaling na artista ang lintek!

    Buti nga ang bruha at kahit siya ang may kagagawan ng gera sa Mindanao ay nakakapagpa-check up kahit stress lang. Ang mga pinoy na patay ay naghambalang sa daan ng Mindanao at ang mga biktima na tunay na nai-stress dala ng kanyang ambisyon na maging pangulo hanggang katapusan ng mundo ay nagtatakbuhan para maiwasang mamatay.

  66. grizzy - August 19, 2008 7:32 am

    Gloria Garutay should be made to realize that she is the cause of all this war, plus the numerous abductions, and worse, the condition the country is in that did not happen in fact even during the time of Marcos when doctors were still doctors and not forced to be caregivers and/or demoted to being nurses and attendants just to be able to earn and survive. Kawalanghiyaan na talaga ang nangyari.

    Meanwhile, here’s a note from Arkibo:

    —– Original Message —–
    Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:35 AM
    Subject: Arkibong Bayan updates, Aug.19, 2008
    Please visit:

    http://www.arkibongbayan.org/
    for the following updates:

    Relatives and friends celebrate the birthday of Luisa, abducted in April 2007 and still missing

    http://www.arkibongbayan.org/2008-08Aug10-luing/luingbday.htm

    KAWAGIB Moro human rights group hit AFP for continuing offensives and dares Arroyo to prioritize its attention to the plight of the refugees:

    http://www.arkibongbayan.org/2008-08Aug16-kawagib/kawagibevacues.htm

    KMU marks the August 13th, 1982 mass arrest and detention of a hundred KMU leaders with a rally at DOLE

    http://www.arkibongbayan.org/2008-08Aug13-DOLEpicket/kmusadole.htm

    Arkibong Bayan Web Team

  67. grizzy - August 19, 2008 7:38 am

    No, Chi, not stress check. The idiots at the MalaKaniyaLang Palace thinks that by saying the kurdapya is sick, Filiinos will be ready to forgive her for all the mess that she has caused. Trick lang iyan. Ganyan din ang gawain ng mga kurakot, who cannot abide by the tradition of self-destruction as when one loses his face, sa Japan. Nagsasakit-sakitan, but over here, society is just that strict and cruel that such politicians are not allowed to go scotfree kaya natutuluyan. Si Tapalani, buhay na naman iyan pag biglang tahimik na ang mga pilipino at magtatapang-tapangan na naman ang dugong aso. Same old tricks na ginagawa niya before and since 2001. Dapat sawa na ang lahat ng mga pilipino.

  68. grizzy - August 19, 2008 7:40 am

    Sorry mistype. This should read: The idiots at the MalaKaniyaLang Palace think…

  69. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 7:42 am

    Xman, how do you define religion? What’s religion to you?

    Now I know why Erap was ousted. The following reason could not be the main reason but it could be one of the reasons for his ouster: In 2000, Erap ordered total war against the Muslim rebels and succeeded in recapturing many camps. Then, the late Cardinal Sin sent an emissary to Malacanang to convince Erap to stop the action. Why was the Catholic Church as shown by Cardinal Sin so concerned about the government’s actions against the rebels? What about the US? Uncle Sam might have also been upset with Erap for the attacks because her own interest could have been affected? These two (Church and US) were among the groups that conspired to oust Erap.

    And after Erap’s ouster, Gloria returned the camps to the rebels. When we speak of Muslims in Mindanao, we’re not referring to law abiding and peaceful Muslim civilians. What we’re against are the rebels who use violence to achieve their goals. Are these Muslim rebels considered terrorists? And both America and our government don’t deal with terrorists? So, why are we negotiating with them? From the time of Marcos until today, what’s been happening is talk, negotiate, fight, talk and negotiate…never end. I think Erap’s all out war could be the solution and it was once proven to be effective.

    Let’s be guided by what Obama said…”It is better to unite than to divide”.

  70. Jake Las Pinas - August 19, 2008 7:44 am

    Assimilate, integrate or die. You already have the ARMM. You dont want to go the way of the Hopis, Tibet or Mayans do you? You are free to practice and enrich your culture within the present system. No one is forcing you to become christians. We can tolerate you, can you do the same for us?

  71. Valdemar - August 19, 2008 7:45 am

    Settlers,
    Hear! Hear! You have just painted the true color of the Muslims around us. Not only those in the south, but including those from Barangay 1 of the northernmost places in the Philippines. Their congenital sentiment is parallel with those around Israel. Reason why Israel adapted their security system of the citizen soldiers ready to attack at any momentary disgustos. There is no hope at all for cohesion of the Muslim and Christian worlds in the Philippines.

    Bitchevil,
    Try your best to convince yourself that religion has no place here.

    Why Fortune ads? malaki commission. At yan ang tabloid ng mga investors. Where to make a fast buck. Fortune is analogous with Philippine rich natural wealth.

  72. Valdemar - August 19, 2008 8:07 am

    Bravo, Commander!
    You have again given something to add to the text books of strategic studies and appropriate references to our political analysts and war freaks at the GHQ. Your favorite movie must be ‘Alyas Palos’. Heard you have already your federal realm in place.

  73. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 8:19 am

    Valdemar, I’m long convinced that religion has no place here. But, it’s always part of the conflicts. Rebels in Georgia, Tibetan against Chinese rule, Muslim rebels desiring to be independent….ask Uncle Sam. His long time strategy of “Divide and Conquer” continues to work.

  74. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 19, 2008 8:42 am

    Maligalig yung isang yun a. Si Noli De Castro yata yun e. Siya lang hindi isinali.

  75. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 19, 2008 8:55 am

    Kidding aside, there are Muslims who are desperate because of the extreme deprivation they suffered for so long. But to think that separation will solve their problem is wishful thinking.

    When your culture is as damaged as any other, you cannot achieve the ideal purist state that exists only in your mind. Datus such as those in Maguindanao, or leaders in Basilan who are as corrupt as The “Religious” One in Malacañang will forsake any province, region or nation, whether it be Christian or Muslim.

    We have been fighting this war for hundreds of years. Maybe war isn’t the solution after all. Prosperity begets peace, peace begets unity. It cannot be borne instantly by division.

    That is a basic law of nature – unity can never be achieved by division.

  76. grizzy - August 19, 2008 9:13 am

    BD:

    I remember defending Erap on his stand against the rebel, but the idiots who attacked me then in the egroups even accused him of some ethnic cleansing daw kuno. Tama ka, it was Sin who was most vocal about the military offensive against the Moslem rebels who were actually victimizing not just Christians but also their fellow Moslems who were forced to leave their “ancestral domain” and seek refuge in other parts of Luzon, thus, the increase of the Moslem population in Baguio for instance, and the Moslem waifs being exploited by illegal recruiters, pimps, etc. there.

    Hindi naaawa ang bruha sa mga nadi-displace na mga pilipino para lang sa sarili niyang ambisyon. Ang sarap magmura sa totoo lang, but I have resolved not to use the PIN mura anymore no matter how angry I am.

    Patalsikin na si Gloria Garutay, puede ba?

  77. Cocoy's Delight - August 19, 2008 10:11 am

    I don’t think it is productive to pick a fight with Mister or Misis Settler in these religious argument,His/her speculation has merit.It is like betting in “Sa Pula Sa Puti” in Islam or Christianity.Freedom of religion in a pluralistic society ought to mean that some things are sacred and treated as such.These history of enslaved peoples is the same everywhere, or rather, they have no history. The years, the centuries pass without bringing any change to their situation. Generations come and go in silence.Failure to reach a durable, long-lasting, peace that resolves the root causes of the conflict will only recreate the same conditions that ignited the conflict, and further perpetuate it.

  78. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 10:34 am

    settlers,
    There is no need to create a separate state, especially one based on religion. Governments are not based on religion but by the rule of law to ensure that our individual rights are protected. Whether you are moslem, iglesia, saksi ni baso, it doesn’t matter, you follow the rules of the land. If you cannot conform, scram go join the PLO, if you look around you the majority of moslems and christians can live in harmony, work together for the common good, its people like you (applies to both sides) that distort realities for your own agenda. There is only one legal and constitutional armed entity and the MILF is it – like a rabid dog it must be out down.
    And stop scaring people, more and more you sound like a yapping chihuahua. We have a government by the majority, you being a minority – deal with it!

  79. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 10:36 am

    oops sorry, it should be …and the MILF is not it

  80. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 10:37 am

    …and like a rabid dog it must be put down…

  81. uzman - August 19, 2008 10:39 am

    to setllers,

    Hindi ko gusto yong commento mo. Tandaan mo, yong pera na hawak mo ngayon ay pera ng pilipinas. Kung ang mga muslim sa mindano ay hindi nagkakaisa, maghiwalay pa kayo! Kung may mga sakuna sa mindanao sino ba ang tumutulong? di ba mga brother nating christians sa Luzon, may naitulong na ba yung mga kumander ng mga rebelde dyan para umasinso ang moroland? Maganda sana kung ang mga utos sa kur’an ay tunay na nasusunod.

  82. Cocoy's Delight - August 19, 2008 10:40 am

    tulad nitong dalaw na sa DZRH mga bias na broadcasters at WAR MONGER dapat dito sa DZRH pagpapatayin itong mga ito ang sinisisi lang ang MILF—–Quoted by Settler

    I consider your statement to be too awful to ignore,I believe what’s going on in Mindanao were far more complex than we are led to believe by the political establishment, and I fear that we out of ideological blindness have come to support some pretty dangerous Muslim forces.I respect you for exposing the bias against MILF in the mainstream media, and I am sad to see that you accepts uncritically a similar bias against Christian.My point is that you cannot understand recent history in Mindanao without taking the previous MILF and Abu Sayaff oppression into account.

  83. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 10:46 am

    The MILF has proven time and time again that they are a hostile, uncontrollable, savage, and unreasonable lot – blow them out of the face of this earth! How dare you compare them to our principled officers? The MILF are nothing but mongrels, cowards the whole lot, matapang lang pag marami sila, pag may mga armas, tingnan mo kung mag-isa lang ang amo pa sa tupa. Walang ibang alam sabihin kundi deeveedeeh deeveedeeh!

  84. uzman - August 19, 2008 10:54 am

    to settlers,

    Remember, na ang sabah ay bininta ng kapwa nating muslim noong una pang panahon. Baka isang araw, sila Hadji Jaafar ng MILF ay gawin din yun para sa kanilang pansariling interest sa darating na panahon. Naisip ba natin yon? kung pangkalahatan ng mga muslim brothers & sisters natin na naninirahan dito sa ibang basa, hindi nila gusto ang ginagawa ng mga MILF since then. Noong una maganda ang motibo nila, but now they’re doing banditry, killings of innocent even our own muslim fellows, children. Pano ba tayo maniniwala dyan? Umasinso na ba ang Mindano sa pamamahala ng mga politkong muslim? Look ARMM governor, pinasweldo ba ng tama ang mga teachers sa Sulu, Tawai-tawi at Basilan? instead, nag asawa nag napakarami at balita ko most of them are living in a lavish town houses there in manila while thier constituents are experiencing famine in our beloved moroland. Is that a true servant of allah?

    Hope you think of that….

    Salam…

  85. Uzman - August 19, 2008 10:58 am

    Remember, na ang sabah ay bininta ng kapwa nating muslim noong una pang panahon. Baka isang araw, sila Hadji Jaafar ng MILF ay gawin din yun para sa kanilang pansariling interest sa darating na panahon. Naisip ba natin yon? kung pangkalahatan ng mga muslim brothers & sisters natin na naninirahan dito sa ibang basa, hindi nila gusto ang ginagawa ng mga MILF since then. Noong una maganda ang motibo nila, but now they’re doing banditry, killings of innocent even our own muslim fellows, children. Pano ba tayo maniniwala dyan? Umasinso na ba ang Mindano sa pamamahala ng mga politkong muslim? Look ARMM governor, pinasweldo ba ng tama ang mga teachers sa Sulu, Tawai-tawi at Basilan? instead, nag asawa nag napakarami at balita ko most of them are living in a lavish town houses there in manila while thier constituents are experiencing famine in our beloved moroland. Is that a true servant of allah?

    Hope you think of that….

    Salam…

  86. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 11:01 am

    Settlers,
    You justify the MILF’s killing and pillaging spree because hindi sila sang ayon sa kinalabasan ng MOA? for that papatay ka na ng tao? Nababaliw ka na rin ba? If we it people like you who are fighting for separation – all the more you should be stopped! What kind of laws do you want to have, the legalized stoning of adulterers, killing your daughters/sisters who got raped, clan wars?
    I’m willing to bet a free lunch in any Shangrila Hotel that you are not even moslem! I come from Mindanao myself and moslems themselves do not even trust their own public officials. If you really are who you say you are, check if you have any form of accountability (especially in financials) in your local governments, liquidation of expenses is not in your vocabulary. Corruption is not even considered as something wrong, for no one can question the leaders – you rule by fear and the threats…case in point – you.

  87. BrianB - August 19, 2008 11:07 am

    To Settlers,

    Sige brainwash nyo sarili nyo na sayo ang Mindanao, hangang maubos kayo. para kayong mga haciendero na binirainwash lahat nang mga anak at apo kaya tingin nila sa kanila talaga ang mga malalawak na lupain sa Negros at iba pang bahagi nang Pilipinas. Ang problema eh mga bayaran sa gobyerno. Kaya kayo malakas pa eh dahil sa mga kurap sa gobyerno. Hindi sa inyo ang Mindanao. Naninirahan lang kayo dun. Kung ayaw nyo maging Pilipino umalis kayo.

  88. BrianB - August 19, 2008 11:19 am

    The MILF do not have the means or even the inclination to govern. That is what I do not understand about the peace process that includes giving them their own state. A state composed of Muslims, yes, but where do you find that?

    To bring order to Mindanao, we need to overwhelm the MILF with military force, even if that means arming civilians. Maybe instead of paying my taxes next quarter, I should use it to provide arms and ammo to Ilonggo relatives in aleosan. We should also cut the supply of Moro arms. I don’t know where they get their weapons, but if it is from inside the military, officers should be court martialed. If it’s from abroad, we should consider cutting diplomatic ties with wherever these rich Muslims come from.

    But I’m sorry to say the Philippines do not desire complete control of the region. If we pushed for complete control, violence may spill north and terrorist attacks is a very likely scenario especially in Metro Manila. Government will want to avoid this even at the cost of sacrificing lives there regularly.

  89. uzman - August 19, 2008 11:49 am

    To Settlers,

    I have more questions, ano ba ang tunay na layunin ng MILF leaders sa mindano? Naiintindihan ba ng mga ordinaryong MILF fighter ang gusto nila? o sila lang ang nakakaalam nun? Ang mga sinasabing military code of conduct ng grupong yan ay ipinatutupad ba? at may na parusahan na? Si Kumander Bravo ba ay naparusahan na noong una nyan nilusob at nang-hostage ng mga civilian sa Kauswagan sometime on 2000? Nabigyan ba ng MILF ng due benifits ang mga kawawang MILF fighters na lumaban noong sa Government? Yung Mga pamilya nila, nasaan na kaya? nakapagaral na kaya ngayun at may mga magagandang trabaho katulad namin dito?
    Sad to say these because I’m also a true muslim believer but all these has to answer by our brother muslim fighting there in the countryside. Isn’t it that were are just idolizing Afghanistan, Somalia and other countries that injustices, poverty are they prefer to live for? Bakit hindi natin gayahin ang Saudi Arabia, UAE and other country that beholds true islam by faith and doings. Hindi ba tayo nahihiya na dahil sa mga nangyayari dyan sa pinas ay lahat sa muslim sinisisi even in some part of the world?

    Let the peace grant us by allah!!!

  90. insider - August 19, 2008 12:18 pm

    gloria: where’s the studio prompter? they’re not here!!!!! then she throws stuff at her stuff. how can she want peace in mindanao when she cant have peace within herself. what a little prick this woman is to the country. the soldiers hate her.

  91. insider - August 19, 2008 12:19 pm

    staff pala

  92. insider - August 19, 2008 12:20 pm

    the military has lost a lot of soldiers due to esperon and gloria’s incompetence. last year, around this time, similar fightings errupted and over 50 soldiers died due to esperon;s kabobohan. walwal tlga yang asong yan! then now, at around the same time, same thing goes again. ikaw na lang mamatay esperon. bakit ba this time giyera niyo? para majustify ang increase sa budget? eh kayo lang naman sa taas ang nakikinabang dun eh

  93. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 19, 2008 12:53 pm

    Sorry to say, whatever government the MILF can achieve to establish will be nothing but a complete failure. It’s leaders cannot even control a few commanders, how can it effectively govern the lives of millions?

    Gloria almost created a Muslim version of Vatican – had it not been opposed by Piñol and Logbregat. She would have given these kidnap bandits the biggest ransom ever in underworld history. Now she tells us she wants our soldiers to protect every inch of Philippine territory. What a flip-flop! A credibility worse than a second-hand car saleman’s.

    MILF and Gloria – the worst kind of creatures to walk on this earth.

  94. Cocoy's Delight - August 19, 2008 1:10 pm

    Gloria and company are pushing for moslem independence for a group of Jihadist thugs who recently wanted to create the Diosdado Macapagal mosque in Mindanao for public relations reasons.

  95. Tilamsik - August 19, 2008 1:19 pm

    Lumalawak ang balitaktakan habang nakangisi ang mabalsik na Agilang Kanluran at naghihintay na lalamunin ang matatalo.

  96. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 19, 2008 2:01 pm

    insider,
    Camp Aguinaldo has just announced that a Col. Benitez, who was trapped by Moro rebels in a market in Lanao, was killed together with two of his men. He was shot at point blank range according to the press con. fighting in recent days has cost the lives of 39 men from AFP, PNP and civilians, courtesy of the Moro terrorists MILF whose “initialled”, secret deal with government would have earned them 5 provinces, a city, and 721 barangays. About time the government walked the we-don’t-deal-with-terrorists talk.

    Col. Benitez was said to be giving their Headquarters a blow-by-blow from his cellphone, and until he texted that they were trapped. I understand no help came from their camp. Air support could have prevented the waste of lives but as usual, it never came.

    How come we can fly Pervert Mascorrupt and 60 of her congressmen to any point in the world when she wants it, but when it is our soldiers’ lives at stake, planes are rarely to be found or virtually inexistent?

  97. uroknon - August 19, 2008 2:30 pm

    All out war, that’s the only solution in Mindanao. Walang puwang sa kapayapaan ang mga trahedor na nilalalang. Hindi kailanman naging kanila ang lupain ng Mindanao, sapagkat ito’y hinayaang nakatiwangwang lamang sa mahabang panahon at ngayon sa tulong ng mga masisipag na Pilipino, ang lupain ito na ginawang kapaki-pakinabang, basta na lamang nila ito kakamkamin! Di makatarungan yan. Kung nais nila ng gyera, pagbigyan natin.

    Dito sa Metro Manila, sino ba ang naghahari-hari sa mga bangketa at iba pa, di ba sila rin? Sino ang tagabenta ng DVD etc., etc., di ba sila pa rin? Sino ang nagbibenta ng mga peke?

    Ang iba kasi sa kanila, ayaw paghirapan ang paghahanapbuhay. Itanong mo sa kapwa nila, sila mismo hindi nagkakasundo.

  98. cg_pinas - August 19, 2008 3:28 pm

    To Settlers,

    Sino nag sabi sayo na ang lupain sa Mindanao ay pagaari ng Moro? lolo mo bago ka aakin basahin mo story ng Mindanao. Kayo mahilig kayo mag ankin na hindi hinyo. Kaya hindi makasundo isang katulad nyo dahil isang kayong TRAYDOR! ako pinanganak sa Marawi City. Pinatay nyo lolo ko isang Pilipino para kami aalis sa marawi. Anong ngyari sa Marawi City ngyun dati ay tinatawag yan ng little Baguio ngayun ano ngyari? Yan ba tinutoro sa inyo Papatay kapag hindi muslim? Patapang lang kayo kapag marami kayo!

    Kung gusto nyo ng kapayapaan hindi sa pagangkin ng lupa. Ipakita nyo na kayo ay makaDios, maka tao. General speaking Settlers ang lupa tinirahan natin ay nag mayari ang ang DIOS hiram lang natin ito para mamuhay ng tama. Hope take research kung sino ba may karapatan na ankinin ang Mindanao. Kung hindi ka pilipino cguro maganda umalis ka dito sa bansang ito at hindi magankin na hindi inyo. Kung gusto mo ng Giyera! cge unahin mo si unanong president at pakita nyo tapang nyo at wag kayong mangdamay ng civilian na walang kalabanlaban.

    Hope your real Allah enlighten you with real peace inyou mind and in your heart. God bless settlers.

  99. PSB - August 19, 2008 4:00 pm

    Ito ba ang grupong kakampi ni pekeng evil bitch? WOW pareho lang pala niyang patay kung patay kahit sino makuha lang nila ang gusto nila. Di ba ganyan si evil bitch? Parang bata na nagtatataray kapag hindi niya makuha ang gusto niya? Akala nitong mga mamamatay taong MILF eh sa ginagawa nilang katarantaduhan makukuha pa nila ang inaasam nilang kapayapaan.

    I wonder who these villains are. Baka naman ito ang mga trained commandos ng “balikatan”? Para lang makaupo ng habangbuhay si unano ito na siguro yung plan B niya dahil yung MoA na plan A eh pumalpak ng husto. Si asspweron ba naman ang co-author eh ang utak niyan eh iisa lang ang direction, kay MAKAPAL! Bilib ako talaga ng super KAPAL ng dalawang ito-unano and asspweron!

    The MILF do not even know who their leaders are. Bira lang ng bira. Nagwawala sila dahil hindi nila nakuha ang gusto nila. These hoodlums will always be hoodlums and no MoA or any agreements will be honored by them. Pareho na lang sila ni balasubas unano. Pareparehong naggagamitan at nagoonsehan! Buti nga kay unano! Akala niya lahat ng tao eh magagamit niya! Now she is a hostage of her own making! Sana nga yung mga MILF na nasa Quiapo eh tumuloy na sa Malakanang para tapos ang kuwento!

  100. PSB - August 19, 2008 4:06 pm

    Yang ancestral lands na yan eh ginagawa lang ng MILF na dahilan para makuha nila ang gusto nila. The bottom line is, having a piece of land is not worth it if one does not have the capital to improve it! Kaya siguro ang gusto ng mga hoodlums na ito eh yung mga lupa na may nakatayo na para nga naman hindi na sila mahirapan pang magdevelop. Tipong unano style! Kam kam dito kam kam doon. Basta may pakinabang sige lang kahit na bundat na bundat na!

  101. BrianB - August 19, 2008 4:06 pm

    The sad, sad part about this is that it’s no time to replace the leadership, even that moron Esperon.

  102. kabute - August 19, 2008 4:18 pm

    Tama iyong nagsabi, itong si Settlers ay peke rin. Ang paniwala ko pakawala ito ni gloria bilang isang “provocateur”. Para gatongang niya pa ang gulong nagyayari. Ngunit may bahagyang totoo sa mga sinasabi niya. Tulad ng paniniwala ng mga MILF na hinde sila mga Pilipino at di sila pasasakop sa batas ng bayan. Mas malapit pa sa Malaysia ang kanilang nasyonalidad. Duon rin ata nangagaling ang mga armas at fundo na inilalaban nila sa bayan.

    Kapayapaan sa Mindanao? Kahit na mga tagaroon ay di naniniwala na ito ang mapangyayari. Masalimoot ang mga puwersang nagbabangaan. Ibat-iba ang interes at ninanasang yaman. Ang mga obispo naman, basta bigyan ng pera ni gloria, hapi na. Kunyari mananawagan ng kapayapaan, karamihan diyan drama lang. Meroong mga Obispo at kaparian na talagang seryoso at may senseridad, pero kakaunti sila.

    Giyera sa Mindanao, tuloy-tuloy na ata ito. Wala naman mga lider sa bansa na maaring paniwalaan at sundin. Ang mga sundalo ngayon ay di tulad ng mga Miranda, Lim, Querubin, Trillanes, mga tunay na Magdalo at iba pa diyan. May prinsipyo at paninindigan.

  103. PSB - August 19, 2008 4:21 pm

    I wonder who these MILF members are? Are they products of the displaced families when they were young? They may not have been educated because they were forced out of their communities due to the constant battles. Maybe many of them saw the death of family members in the encounters. The handlers of these MILF warriors know these facts so they capitalize on these men’s weakest points.

    Wala na lang mapuntahan ang mga ito dahil they do not have the capability to fuse with the society. Fighting is the only trade they know. I wonder how much they are paid to kill, kidnap and destroy villages. These groups are easy prey to greedy and ambitious politicians and to would be invaders.

    To end this war in Mindanao, children should be educated and economic development should be prioritized. Mindanao is so fertile and rich in resources but due to the never ending war, most of the localities are still depressed making them a haven for the underworld.

  104. kabute - August 19, 2008 4:38 pm

    PSB,

    May mga kakilala akong mga malapit sa mga MILF. Ang isa nga isa ng Imam na nag-aral pa sa Pakistan sa isa sa mga madrassha doon. Nagtayo rin sila ng mga parang mga madrassha sa Mindanao at doon nila binibigyan ng edukasyon ang mga kabataan nila. Kaya lang parang edukasyon na tulad ng itinuturo sa mga taliban sa Afganistan.

  105. grizzy - August 19, 2008 4:52 pm

    BD:Sometimes, he says Ya and sometimes No.

    ******
    Hahahahahahaha! May sense of humor ka rin pala BD. Ya…No! Walang pinag-iba doon sa “Hai” “Ee” na akala iyong “Yes… Yah” sa Japanese ay “Hai…Ee”!

    Maraming Yan dito sa Japan sa totoo lang.

  106. Ellen - August 19, 2008 4:58 pm

    Cg_Pinas, please, please do not capitalize your comments. Even if they are not capitalized, nababasa naman yan ng mga readers dito. Maayos naman ang mga mata ng nagbabasa rito. At naiintindihan naman yan kahit hindi naka-capitalize. Matalino naman ang mga readers dito.

    Tingnan mo ang comments ng iba, hindi naman yan naka-capitalize.

    Hindi maganda tingnan ang all caps na comments. Napapagod na ako sa kaka-edit.

    Thank you.

  107. Mingkay Flores - August 19, 2008 5:58 pm

    Walang puso yan si Gloria at Esperon dahil sa kanila maraming taong namatay sa amin.Peace???? nasaan at kailan kaya makakamtan yan dyan sa aming lugar sa ngayon.Maraming mga civilian ang nadamay.Ang kapatid ko at pinsan kapapanganak lang at tumakbo na ng madaling araw.Halos mababaliw kami na nagtatrabaho dito sa ibang bansa sa kaiisip ng aming mga pamilya jan sa Lanao.Wala kaming magawa dito kundi malungkot at umiyak dahil sa sinapit sa aming bayan.
    Sa mga MILF naman sinasabi nilang wala silang kinalaman sa attack dahil mga ” lost Command” paano nalang kong mapapasa inyo ang part ng Mindanao hindi nga kayo marunong mag control sa mga sundalo nyo ngayon palang paano nalang kong meron na kayong karapatan?Papaano namin masisiguro na may Peace na kong sa ngayon palang inabuso na ninyo ang mga civilian?.Kawawa ang mga kaibigan ko mga kamag-anak ko,mga batang na trauma.Lahat ito kagagawan ng ating palpak na gobyerno.At isa pa mga high power gun din ang mga gamit nila saan galing ang mga yon? saan galing ang mga supply nilang pandigma?
    Heres the story from my Grandpa:
    In the years prior to 1521, the native Muslims occupied the coastal plains of the Province, now known as Lanao del Norte. Datu Elme M. Mohammad, a datu and prosperous fisherman by occupation believed to have come from Cabingan, Sulu who occupied more than half of these coastal plains. When the Spanish colonizers failed to conquer wholly the southern part of the Philippines, the Americans proved otherwise by effectively gaining the support and confidence of the Moslems. Through negotiations with the local Moslem leaders, people particularly from Cebu and Bohol were encouraged to settle in the parts of Mindanao, presently known as Kauswagan. The influx of migrants particularly from the Visayas who intermingled with a small group of native Moslems without accompanying Moslems for it was only natural that the growing social and diverse cultural heritage, customs, traditions and idiosyncrasies developed some tensions. But, fortunately, it has opened up previously uninhabited and richly endowed lands thereby sowing the initial seed for development. The place settled-in by most of the settlers was known to be “KIADALICANAN” but was later shortened to “DALICANAN” which literally means, “bend”. The settlers in this part were notably known to have come from Tudela, Misamis Occidental and said to have been led by the family of Restituto Cagas. In July 1917, Dalicanan became the center of commerce and trade and was the most developed area. The Christian settlers renamed DALICANAN into KAUSW AGAN meaning “Progress” or “Improvement”. The Kauswagan later on became the set of Local Government and Dalicanan just a mere sitio. Kauswagan during this period was a barrio under the municipality of Iligan its mother town, 21 kilometers away to the north East Coast.
    August 1921 marked the first wave of settlers from Tabuelan, Cebu. Due to the increasing need of the growing population for education, the municipality was able to put up a complete primary school with seven (7) Grades in June of 1939 known as Kauswagan Primary School. In 1947, Pedro Pernia, Sr., Ricardo Capa and Rustico Paiiares drafted the papers and complied with the legal requirements for town’s separation from Iligan, its mother municipality. Then on April 25, 1948, by virtue of Executive Order No.126 duly signed by President Manuel A. Roxas, it was created into a regular municipality. However, there was no existing government building to house the municipal hall at that time so a residential building owned by Eugenio Sombilon was utilized instead. Then councilor Jose Q. Balazo became the first appointed Municipal Mayor, while Mr .Santiago Ramirez as the first appointed Vice Mayor.

    Sana wag tuluyang angkinin ng mga muslims ang lugar namin dahil malaki rin naman ang contribution ng mga christian sa kaunlaran ng bayan.

    Lastly,humihingi po ako ng tulong maraming mga pamilya ang nagugutom sa mga evacuation center sa Iligan pls tulungan nyo po sila doon.Maraming salamat po.

  108. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 19, 2008 6:04 pm

    BrianB,
    That’s precisely why Esperon The Moron was designated Adviser on Peace Process – to negotiate peace with the Moron Islamic Liberation Front and the Moron National Liberation Front.

    Or collectively, the Bangsa Morons!

  109. Cocoy's Delight - August 19, 2008 6:21 pm

    Are we Filipinos worth dying for?
    When we speak of great souls or great leaders, surely everyone will raise eye brow as real leaders are becoming gradually rare. But, one name shines like eternal glittering star in the sky in the Pearl of the Orient as the rooster crow to give the signal of dawn, and that is late Ninoy the spark plug of EDSA.

    The slay of the late Ninoy is considered as the turning point in the hard-fought battle of Filipino leaders like him to regain our country’s democracy from the shackles of two decade-long of martial rule imposed by the late Ilocano Apo Lakay. But ,his sacrifice to restore our country’s democratic institutions seemed to have been only the dream of Filipinos are worth dying for. Our country still suffers from grave social disparities and the increasingly opportunistic behavior of its political-economic elite.

  110. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 19, 2008 6:24 pm

    Mingkay,
    Suffice it to say, Muslims were not the first people to settle in Mindanao either. They unilaterally picked the Treaty of Paris and Aguinaldo’s declaration of independence as the ONLY references in history to bolster their ancestral domains claim. It was stupid enough as it is, “stupider” was when it was agreed to in principle by our government negotiators.

    I cannot accept such dishonesty from either side especially when it deals with issues of paramount historical significance. The Muslims ruled that part Mindanao for hundreds of years. Look at what they have achieved, if any. Now, they want more.

    Mindanao will always be the Land of Promise. Nothing more.

  111. Tilamsik - August 19, 2008 6:25 pm

    Cocoy’s Delight Says:
    August 19th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
    Are we Filipinos worth dying for?…..

    *******************

    Very nice..!

  112. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 19, 2008 6:26 pm

    Cocoy,
    The next question is: Are the Filipinos worth killing for?

  113. Cocoy's Delight - August 19, 2008 6:32 pm

    Tongue and Tilamsik;
    Thank you very much.You can read the entire article on my blog.

  114. Cocoy's Delight - August 19, 2008 6:43 pm

    Gloria’s immensely corrupt regime has destroyed a once democratic loving people country, leaving behind only the stench of decay.Right from her inauguration address as the president of our country, she has consistently pledged amongst many others to run a government, But as her regime’s days roll by and things unfold it is becoming obvious that those pledges were made merely to deceive Filipinos into accepting her, a woman who was fraudulently rigged into the highest office in the country by the worst President Philippines ever had.

  115. Cocoy's Delight - August 19, 2008 6:48 pm

    Her capacity to wield unlimited power is something to suit her desires, She set herself towards getting more than she really need. She gets too much power in her hands, Her actions can easily be and most likely will be guided by whimsy. After all, since she have all the power in her hands, who can refute herself even over a whim? Such people who act in this fashion, allowing herself to be lured by whimsy and power, are not to be trusted nor are they to be loved. You can’t love someone, or even like them, if they have no love for anyone else but themselves. But,a moron can surely fear her.

  116. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 6:59 pm

    Hi Ellen, is it possible for you to check what class Col. Benitez is from? (tongue 2:01PM)
    Thanks.

  117. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 7:24 pm

    tongue,
    Col. Angel Benitez was my room mate, he was original class ’89 and got turned back to ’90. He was a good man and a trusted friend. We used to go “take life” in the mess hall after taps…and see each other across the wee hours of the morning making sure the condiments in our tables were complete…I believe he also had his share of shining the sun dial before the break of dawn…
    What a waste of good people…

  118. chi - August 19, 2008 8:44 pm

    “I have more questions, ano ba ang tunay na layunin ng MILF leaders sa mindano?” – uzman

    This is a good point. Unfortunately, even Gloria Arroyo who claims to be president of Pinas, which definitely include Mindanao, does not care to know the answer and does not have a bit of care for Mindanaoans as long as she can use them to perpetuate herself in power.

  119. neonate - August 19, 2008 8:56 pm

    Ate Glue cohorts staged the farce of North Cotabato low-intensity conflict, a MILF- AFP clash where aerial and artillery bombardment miraculously resulted in zilch casualties. That MILF group withdrew (redeployed) as per script. Cdr Bravo is not conforming to the script, creating tension and inflaming passions. Iligan residents have been panicked by the atrocities in Lanao Norte towns.
    Not many Pinoys know that Muslims have their version of diaspora in Pinas (similar to our OFWs), emigrating as far north as Region 1 and 2, in numbers not known even by the NSO. The biggest concentration of émigrés are in Quiapo Manila but have a bad press because of involvement in illegal trade of drugs and pirated IPR media. However the silent majority just wants to live in peace in the Christian communities and engage in commerce.
    The backlash due to the MILF forays will derogate the harmony of peaceful coexistence. A tragedy rooted in one woman’s unmoderated greed for power.

  120. chi - August 19, 2008 8:59 pm

    She would have given these kidnap bandits the biggest ransom ever in underworld history. Now she tells us she wants our soldiers to protect every inch of Philippine territory. What a flip-flop! – tongue

    Gloria commits the sin and created a huge mess but throws to someone else the problems to solve them for her.

    And for this, this evil woman wants to be called president. What a gall!

  121. grizzy - August 19, 2008 9:05 pm

    Tongue: How come we can fly Pervert Mascorrupt and 60 of her congressmen to any point in the world when she wants it, but when it is our soldiers’ lives at stake, planes are rarely to be found or virtually inexistent?

    *****

    It’s been the trend, Tongue, since the idiota declared herself president with the help of the likes of Davide, Sin, et al. It reminds me of the rescue effort in Quezon when AFP helicopters and planes could not be used to fly relief there, tapos iyong mga sundalo nakapaa climbing mountains with the relief good on their backs. Napapakamot na lang ako ng ulo because I was not longer used to such crudeness, primitiveness, and worse, neglect. Ganoon din ang nangyari noong sa landslide sa Leyte. Iyong mga pilipinonong sundalo naunahan pa ng mga Singaporeans, pero kung magyabang si kapalmuks ganoon na lang.

  122. grizzy - August 19, 2008 9:07 pm

    Pag hindi pa humirit laban kay pandak ang mga sundalong pinoy, asahan ng lahat mas marami ngayong magiging biyuda at biyudo at ulila sa mga magulang!

    Patalsikin na, now na!

  123. chi - August 19, 2008 9:08 pm

    What happened to Col Benitez and men was sad and frustrating.

    Tongue, tama ang tanong mo. Bakit meron eroplano para sa 60 tongressmen ni Gloria to fly them around the world but non, even a drawing of helecopter, for her (daw) soldiers?

    That’s why I’m reiterating my concern that the AFP should study and plan more before engaging in this Gloria-made war. We are losing/wasting good men for a cause they themselves rarely question and get no anwers… this is unforgiveable.

  124. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 9:11 pm

    Grizzy,
    Otanjou-bi Omedetou Gozaimasu!
    I’d like so much to be happy with you but recent news depresses me…

  125. chi - August 19, 2008 9:14 pm

    Jug,

    Sorry for your (and our) loss. I’m sure Col. Benitez and his men belong to the “few good men”.

  126. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 9:17 pm

    chi,
    Col. Benitez was doing exactly that, gathering information from close proximity to enemy lines, maybe even behind enemy lines. He knew exactly what the cost was, he could have escaped earlier but he decided to stay behind to get more information. He never was one to avoid risks, back in the day we used to call them “take life.”
    What was unacceptable was the way he died, he was caught already, is this how the MILF treats POWs?

  127. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 19, 2008 9:22 pm

    Yes, jug, he was Class ’90 as were Col. Ernesto Torres and Romeo Brawner, jr.

  128. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 9:42 pm

    tongue,
    Torres and Brawner are both class ’89, so is Dela Pena (airforce spokesperson) and Caculitan (marines).

  129. chi - August 19, 2008 9:43 pm

    Jug,

    Gloria and the MILF are both traitors and terrorists. We can’t expect any civility from them. They deserve each other.

  130. chi - August 19, 2008 9:45 pm

    neonate,

    It’s a badly written script from Her Katianakan as usual.

  131. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 9:47 pm

    During these times I ask myself why Erap, who was supposedly stupid, on his watch, was able to overrun these MILF strongholds? Now, we’re supposed to have this super- brainy-Harvard commander in chief but we’re in deep shit, more defensive than offensive, afraid to go overboard – whats that? We have to ask the DND secretary for that…

  132. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 9:52 pm

    I really hope that this time, when our soldiers in the field ask for air support, they get it pronto, and no more looking for whoever needs to approve it but couldn’t find him (maybe playing golf in wackwack and savoring the famous borger from Ben’s diner).

  133. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 19, 2008 10:08 pm

    jug,
    that’s the caption in the news, that they were class ’90. Btw, which did you belong to ’89 or ’90?

  134. chi - August 19, 2008 10:09 pm

    I would like to see the day when enough air support is always on standby for our soldiers.

    Yes, jug…NO ifs, NO buts! Basta nandun lang. It’s time to give priority to the lives on the warpath and thank our good men for the job they’re doing for our country (Gloria not considering).

  135. juggernaut - August 19, 2008 10:16 pm

    tongue,
    I guess they need to make some corrections then. ’89, right across Brawner’s room and his bunkmate Dado (who I heard incidentally died of questionable cause).

  136. grizzy - August 19, 2008 10:57 pm

    Taeng-tae na si Pervert Mascorrupt na magdeklara ng Martial Law. Who knows baka may inutusan na siyang magdala ng armas para i-deliver sa MILF para matalo ang mga sundalong pilipino with all the late response to emergency calls, etc. Tama talaga ang mga Magdalo doon sa nireklamo nila. Si Pervert dapat ang ikulong!

  137. BrianB - August 19, 2008 11:04 pm

    The ILAGAS were a very effective bunch of civilians against these moros, why not bring them back?

  138. bitchevil - August 19, 2008 11:16 pm

    Actually, these Muslim bandits carry US made weapons and those coming from the AFP. The selling of government’s weapons to these rebels is rampant. Now, the government soldiers get killed by the same weapons and bullets they sold to the enemies.

  139. chi - August 19, 2008 11:54 pm

    Kung susuriin ay pailalim ang ginagawang panggagalit ni Gloria sa MILF o kaya ay may mga ‘kausap’ siya na manggulo sa Mindanao para ma-justify niya ang pagdeklara ng martial law.

    Kaya bago sumugod ng husto at mag-order si Yano ng full offensive sa region ay dapat na pag-aralang mabuti ng AFP kung ano talaga ang nakataya sa Gloria-made war na ito.

    Ilang buhay pa ng mga sundalo ang itataya? Ilang buhay pa ng mga inosenteng sibilyan ang magiging collateral damage para sa ambisyon ni Gloria?

    Tama na ang gera, si Gloria ang bakbakan!

  140. bitchevil - August 20, 2008 12:07 am

    The Bitch learned the strategy from her mentor Bush. She’s exactly doing and applying what the US does to other countries. Create a scenario to justify attack and invasion.

  141. Cocoy's Delight - August 20, 2008 12:28 am

    Si Gloria mismo ang gumawa ng kaguluhang ito sa Mindanao dahil sa gawa-gawa nilang memorandum of agreement on ancestral land between the government and MILF kaya nag-umpisa itong bakbakan dahil nagpalabas ng TRO ang Korte Suprema sa pagpidal ng pirma.

    Ngayon nananawagan siya sa lahat ng mga sector na tulungan siya sa krisis na ito at kung ano ang mgaiging rekomendasyon para maresolba ang gulong sinimulan nila.Dapat patawan sila ng parusa sa pagtataksil sa Bansa at sa Saligang Batas.

  142. chi - August 20, 2008 1:15 am

    Ganyan naman si Gloria, kapag hindi na kaya ang kanyang gawa-gawang problema ay isinasali na kuno ang kapinuyan. This time ay hindi na uubra ang kanyang kababuyan, and she knows it! Time to pack up, Gloria.

  143. bitchevil - August 20, 2008 1:58 am

    Gloria, it’s time to pack up or fuck up !

  144. PSB - August 20, 2008 1:58 am

    Col Querubin got his medal of Valor by fighting these MILF and succeeded in taking over their biggest camp only for the illegitimate unano to put them back in circulation. Since then, these hoodlums regrouped! Ngayon mas malaki ang sakit ng ulo ng gobierno. Kung si evil bitch at asspweron lang sana ang matatamaan, ok lang. Kaso mo si evil bitch ay maraming layered na guardia. Si asspweron naman ang opisina ay nasa Malaysia na.

    Instead of Benitez, I would have been happier if any of the “dogs” of the evil bitch got executed para nabawasan ang masasama. Yung pang may pakinabang ang mga mamamayan ang natodas. Yung mga masasama ay tuloy ang ligaya!

  145. PSB - August 20, 2008 2:00 am

    Masuwerte yung mga incarcerated officers( gen Miranda, Gen Lim, Col Querubin et al) kahit papaano dahil hindi sila nagagamit ni Hitler unano. Their hands are clean. God must have His way of protecting them from this mad woman!

  146. PSB - August 20, 2008 2:18 am

    Bitchevil, you got the point. Our soldiers have weapons made in China while the rebels have made in the USA or even European made weapons. Thanks to the BALIKATAN excercises! They really had trained these rebels well! Kawawa ang mga sundalong kanin natin. These rebels may also triple or quadruple in numbers. Malapit lang ang Malaysia. It is just a boat away! With our inferior intelligence and radar system, our AFP may not even know how big the enemy may be. These rebels act independently, swiftly and simultaneously! This means marami silang “leaders”.

    The MILF spokeman does not sound nor look believable to me. One day he says that the splintered groups are not with them and now he says, they may be. Doble kara ang mga ito! They want to be believable to the double faced unano bitch and at the same time, they are protecting their own hoodlum kind! This is why the evil bitch should not have even entertained giving them an inch of any negotiating power!. Get rid of these rebels and rebuild the communities! Put the kids to school, protect each and every citizen in these troubled communities, re-educate and give jobs to the adults, build the long needed infrastructures! Only when these are done will we see a progressive Mindanao.

    Tama na ang peace negotiations na yan! They never worked! Ngayon nga na hindi pa nila nakukuha ang gusto nila busabos na sila, how much more abusive will they get when they are finally granted the autonomy and power to do what they want? Kawawa naman ang mga Moslems and Christians who really just want to be really peaceful and doing the day to day chores to make their businesses take off. Why will these rebel groups want to take all the power when all they do is hug their guns?

  147. Anne cole - August 20, 2008 2:25 am

    Hanggang lango pa si GMA sa kapangyarihan,
    habang uhaw pa sya sa kayamanan,
    habang nag-uumapaw pa sa kanya ang pagnanasa,
    habang naglalaway pa at gustong magpasasa
    habang may mga maaamo pa syang galamay
    Mananaig ang pusong punong-puno ng kasakiman
    Mananaig ang pagkaduhapang na makamtan ang lahat
    Gaano man at sinuman ang masagasaan
    kapalit man nito ang ating kasarinlan
    o maging ang mahal nating buhay
    Patuloy siyang magiging
    Gahaman,
    Mandaraya at
    Ambisyosa.
    Pilipinas, saan ka tutungo?

  148. Gabriela - August 20, 2008 6:25 am

    Mingkay Flores, thank you for a brief background on Iligan. Ito ang maganda sa blog na ito, may natutunan ka.

  149. chi - August 20, 2008 7:43 am

    Na-update na pala ni Ellen ang casualties of Gloria war. 30 na! Namatay ng walang kawawaan!

  150. Ellen - August 20, 2008 8:59 am

    Chi, more than 30 actually. 34 yata.

  151. Valdemar - August 20, 2008 9:01 am

    Settlers and his vitriolics dont go well with a preponderance of his antis. But I do like to learn more from him, a standpoint of a pseudo-Muslim. A true one like Uzman may have solutions. I agree with him.

  152. chi - August 20, 2008 9:52 am

    Susmaryosep, 34+ and counting lost lives all because of Pervert Mascorrupt!

  153. grizzy - August 20, 2008 10:44 am

    Anong ancestral land ang pinagsasabi ng mga ungas? Gusto lang ng mga Pidal na mapasakanila ang ibibigay daw ila sa mga MILF by calling them all kinds of “pretty” names. Sa totoo lang, virgin land ang karamian sa lupain sa Mindanao before the settlers from other parts of the Philippines were encouraged to migrate there and clear the forests. Hindi naman lahat ng settlers sa Mindanao Moslems sa totoo lang. Mas Moslem pa nga yata ang Cebu before the Spaniards came. In fact, isa rin iyan sa inaabatan ni Garutay at ng asawa niyang sakim na angkinin nila when they succeed in declaring the Philippines as theirs to own.

    I should know kasi marami kaming kamag-anak ang napadpad especially in Davao, Misamis, Iligan, and Zamboanga. Doon nga lang sa Sulu naipit iyong mga Moslem sa totoo lang. Vested interests ang mga gustung pumarte sa gimmick ni Garutay.

  154. mingkay - August 20, 2008 11:59 am

    Just spoke to my Mom this morning,last night my whole family just slept under the bushes near the seaside.Cant imagine how my little nephew ( 7 days old) survive in all this.

    My mother told me this war may take longer as what Commander Bravo said in the local radio that they will fight to the end.Hanggang kailan pa kaya matapos ang lahat ng ito? Since my childhood lumaki na ako sa gyera,kakapagod na rin.
    To Settlers:

    Napakasakim mo sa lupa,nadevelop ang mindanao dahil sa tulong rin ng mga christian.Pawis ,sipag at tiyaga rin ang puhunun namin.Bakit di nalang tayo magkasundo? yong ibang muslims naman mababait marami akong pinsan na nakapag-asawa ng mga muslims at mababait naman sila ayaw rin nila ng gulo.

  155. johnmarzan - August 20, 2008 12:25 pm

    settlers, are you calling christians Kristy-ANUS?

  156. etcetera - August 20, 2008 3:19 pm

    Settlers, you are welcome to post here. We want to hear your point of view. we do not mind about your emotional outburst or other posters outburst. It is part of blogging. I guess, you can call it, blog sport.

  157. etcetera - August 20, 2008 3:22 pm

    By the way, settlers I don’t care if you are for real or just a paid malacanang hack. Just blog to your hearts content. This is a blog sport.

  158. mingkay - August 20, 2008 5:10 pm

    Ewan ko sayo Settlers,basta ang lupa namin sa Lanao ay legally amin noong dumating ang mga Lolo namin yan ay gubat pa at sila ang nagbungkal at nagtanim ngayon papaano mo sabihin na sa inyo yan?Hindi totoo na ang mga muslims ay galit sa aming mga Christian baka ikaw lang,marami akong naging classmates na muslims since primary school hanggang college mababait naman sila.

  159. grizzy - August 20, 2008 9:41 pm

    Sinabi mo pa. Minkay. Mas maraming Kristyano ang naglinis ng gubat sa Mindanao kesa doon sa mga tamad na palangyoy-langoy lang sa dagat at nangdarambong. I have lot s of relatives too who settled in Lanao from the Ilocos. Sila iyong mga original migrant workers. Mga kaingeros, so called.

  160. bitchevil - August 20, 2008 10:33 pm

    I think this Settlers is what they call “extremist”…a Muslim extremist who hates the Christians.

  161. angelix - August 21, 2008 12:55 am

    i, currently a student medyo wala pa akong isip about this before this incident, pero nung sinabi nila may threats na dito sa amin i was scared and felt down, because “bakit naman sila pumapatay?” eh? same lang naman tayo mga tao, for me. hindi ko kinamumuhian ang muslim or all other religions, kasi i respect them, actually gusto ko pa ngang malaman ang kanilang religion and life, most of my friends na muslims are friendly and very approachable, but i was shocked that even my muslim classmates were scared on the MILFs…

    naaintindihan ko naman ang mga MILF kung bakit sila nagkakaganyan… pero dapat sa government lang nila ilabas ang galit nila… hindi dapat nila isali ang mga civilians… iba kasi ang takot nang nakatira malapit sa gyera… its my 1st time to experience this feeling na natatakot for my life…

    i cant blame these MILF… i know they wanted something that wasn’t given to them.. they only wanted that “something” to suffice their wants… ganyan naman talaga diba tayo?… problems like rice… tumaas ang price ng rice… welga at rally agad…. ang mga MILFs may isip din naman yan sila… and for sure they have consciences alam naman nila siguro kung ano ang tama at mali….

  162. juggernaut - August 21, 2008 1:05 am

    angelix,
    The MILF are people who are perfectly aware of what they’re doing, they decided to kill people and burn houses…bakit hindi na lang sila nagwelga o nag presscon sa hotel to air out their grievances?
    Do not be too naive, they are cold blooded killers, criminals that must be punished by the full extent of the law…

  163. bitchevil - August 21, 2008 1:11 am

    There’s no doubt that these MILF rebels are terrorists. Why doesn’t the US now declare them as terrorists? Why are they so slow and refuse to declare them as such? Another selective policy of the US?

  164. grizzy - August 21, 2008 3:41 am

    Buti ngang huwag sumali ang US sa gulong ginawa ni Gloria Garutay kasi baka lalong mawala ang Mindanao sa Pilipinas. Remember the US role in the balkanization of Yugoslavia, etc.

    As for the federalism ni Senator Pimentel, this is not the time to insist on it. Kung iyong ngang sistema ngayon hindi maintindihan, dadagdagan pa ng lalong hind maiintindihan ng mga pilipino, and definitely not now that the Garutay is desperate to find a way to perpetuate her reign. Baka imbes na magpasalamat ang mga pilipino kay Senator Pimentel, lalo lang silang magalit sa kaniya at di siya mapalitan ng anak niya.

    BTW, I did not support EDSA 2. It was not even a choice between two evils as a matter of fact. It was a choice for the duly elected president of the Philippines, who was trying his best to run the government with very little funds because not many lenders would like to lend him money, and because a lot of the government funds were already taken by the presidents before him and their cronies and kin. Ganoon katindi! Kaya iyong tao nagtiyaga sa donations sa kaniya ng mga jueteng lords na kakutsaba pala ni Gloria Mandarambong!

  165. bitchevil - August 21, 2008 3:47 am

    Senator Nene Pimentel’s Federlism Bill has all the good intentions of a good politician. But, I agree that it’s untimely…not at this time…not now when the Evil Bitch is still in control of the country. I hope Nene would take heed of his colleagues’ position not to push it and just wait until after 2010.

  166. mingkay - August 21, 2008 9:05 am

    Ano pa nga ba ang tawag sa mga MILF na umatake sa Mindanao kundi terrorista,actually they’re are not only muslims there are christians among them too and they were recruited to join them in exchanged to have financial support to thier families.May mga babae ring kasama at sila yong taga sunog doon sa mga bahay.Mas mabilis pala ang recruitment nila kay sa mga sundalo sa gobyerno at siguro mas malaki rin ang Funds nila kay sa mga sundalo sa gobyerno.
    Wala silang awa kong pumatay,walang paki-alam kong babae o bata,magnanakaw at siguro utos ng Pandakikang lider nila.Di na ako naniniwala ng KULAM dahil kong may totoong kulam matagal nang natigok yang Pandakikang yan o kaya siguro ay may kapangyarihang demonya talaga yan.

  167. Valdemar - August 21, 2008 11:37 am

    The truth of “MOA-AD” war or misdemeanor of a few superior warriors a few days ago was, according to an identified source from the place was just an offshoot of a logging incident at a checkpoint where protagonists bared teeths and cocked armalites. The underdogs went home and brought back their big brothers for the rampage in the guise of MOA-AD instigated actions.

  168. mingkay - August 21, 2008 12:10 pm

    illegal logging,Lost command,Pending agreement of MOA-AD at kong anu-anu pa,marami silang palusot ngayon.

  169. mingkay - August 21, 2008 7:23 pm

    By the way, iisa lang ang commander ng mga yan walang iba kundi si Demonyitang Pandakikak,siya ang sugo ni Satanas.Mind you guys,may lahi yang muslim.

  170. bitchevil - August 21, 2008 9:55 pm

    The Supreme Court saw one very important issue in the Solicitor General’s response to the petition against MOA. The Office of the Solicitor General representing the government did not state that they would not, no longer and never signed the MOA. The SC discovered the government’s evil plan in time.

  171. etcetera - August 22, 2008 12:37 am

    The current editorial at Tribune is very interesting:

    “International law, however, states that the MILF merely needs recognition of its claim to a homeland and such a recognition was given by Mrs. Arroyo through the initialing of the MoA-AD.

    Thus, there is reason for the MILF to consider the agreement a done deal since it was likely a recognition from Gloria that which the group was after was to push the state of belligerence.”

    According to Tribune, a declaration of war or all-out-war, just like what commander bandits Bravo and Kato did, is needed to establish a state of belligerency, based on international law.

    It only needs the recognition from a sovereign state, like Malaysia, that MILF is a belligerent power, hence, Bangsamoro Juridical Entity (BJE) will enventually be established and recognized by international community. No need to sign an official MOA-AD anymore. The initialed MOA-AD is good enough.

    But the big question is that the initialed MOA-AD is against the framework of our constitution. That bansot is not allowed to enter an unconstitutional agreement with bandits.

    http://www.tribuneonline.org/commentary/20080822com1.html

  172. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 22, 2008 1:10 am

    BE, The SC discovered it because they wanted the SC to discover it. Why would Manny Piñol know the contents when even the other GRP panel members like Atty Montesa do not know the contents of the final draft, according to Puno? Who leaked the details to the press when it was only Esperon and a very few others in Malacañang had seen the document? They themselves, right? The opposition isn’t moving, they even had to fly Gloria allies Manny Piñol and Celso Lobregat because no one was filing for a TRO which Malacañang predicted was automatic with their opponents. Piñol even went to Malacañang, why didn’t they stop him? They can stop even the whole senate if they wanted to, but Piñol? Because they wanted him to file!

  173. TIRURAY NG TUPI - August 22, 2008 3:01 am

    HAHAHAHAHA YUNG 31 NA MILF DAW NA NAG SURRENDER DAW NABISTONG MGA BISAYA SUMIGAW SILA NG “MUPAHAWA NA MI SA MILF”HAHAHAHA TAPOS ININTERVIEW YUNG KUMANDER DAW NILA ANG PANGALAN ALVIN CONTO,NA ISA PALANG KAGAWAD SA ILIGAN CITY BARANGAY BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!ANG SABI PA NIYA,”OO TINULUNGAN KAMI SA AMONG MGA KAUBAN”HAHAHAHA BISAYA TALAGA.TAPOS ITO PA YUNG MGA ILAGA KUNO,NA NAGPA-INTERVIEW SA GMANEWS AT ABS-CBN E KUNG MATAPANG BAKIT NAKATAKIP ANG MUKHA????HEHEHEHEHE!!!E DI LUMALABAS NA SILA ANG MAY ITINATAGO,BAKIT NILA TAKPAN ANG MUKHA HEHEHEHEHE!!!!ESEP-ESEP..AT YUNG NAMATAY NA LT.COL ANGEL BENITEZ AY SIYANG NAGDALA NG MGA INORGANIZE NA MILF KUNO AT MALAMANG NA SILA DIN ANG UMATAKE SA KULAMBOGAN,KAUSWAGAN NA YAN HAHAHAHA.

  174. TIRURAY NG TUPI - August 22, 2008 3:05 am

    MINGKAY huwag kang basta magladlad ng iyung mga patapos na salita kasi puro tsismis lang iyang gingawa mo dito mabigay ka naman ng may sense hindi yung puro non-sense inday kasi halata ka tuloy na BOBO KA E!HEHEHEHE!

  175. bitchevil - August 22, 2008 6:46 am

    So Tongue, you’re saying that all this MOA fiasco and MILF problems were all orchestrated to achieve the Bitch’s hidden agenda. I would like to believe it. It’s strange to see so many of Gloria’s allies doing the work for the opposition.

  176. juggernaut - August 22, 2008 7:40 am

    Meron na namang pumasok dito na wala sa sarili. Pangalan pa lang tiruray na.

  177. bitchevil - August 22, 2008 7:43 am

    Jug, we’re currently being invaded by Malacanang terrorists. There’s another one who calls himself attorney. The Evil Bitch’s camp is panicking. The end is near.

  178. mingkay - August 22, 2008 10:45 am

    Tiruray Tupi,hihihihi dodong o Inday pakawala ng Pandakikak dito sa mga blogs.Bobo man ako dodong pero naintindihan ko ang takbo ng pamamalakad ng leader mong Pandak.Ikaw naintindihan mo? hihihihi tsismis Dong di ba sabi ko ang MILF ay di lang puro Muslims? baka di mo alam ang pasweldo ng Pandakikang Amo mo sa kanila?ilang recruit ng army every month ? ilan sa MILF army ang recuit din every month? Dong sinong bobo sa atin heheheheheh.talaga namang mga mukhang pera o.

  179. TonGuE-tWisTeD - August 22, 2008 10:45 am

    The bitch’s allies are doing the opposition’s work because the opposition is doing the right thing by keeping its distance for the moment. They’re not about to disturb their enemy while it self-destructs. If they come into the picture now, the usual defenders would just spin it to issues of personalities and the territory sellout will soon be buried and forgotten.

  180. mingkay - August 22, 2008 10:54 am

    One more Tiruray na Atty,kaya nakatakip ang mga mukha ng Ilaga dahil mga kamukha mo sila,hahahahhahahhahh.Kagaya mo rin nakatago dahil dehins pangcelebrity ang face.Segi tago ka na lang ng iba ibang names lolz.

  181. chi - August 22, 2008 11:17 am

    Mingkay can very well defend herself, a true Ellenville netizen. Right on, mingkay!

  182. bitchevil - August 22, 2008 11:33 am

    Mingkay, what you said could be true. Not all the MILF rebels are genuine Muslims. Some could be from GMA’s government disguised as Muslims.

  183. etcetera - August 22, 2008 2:02 pm

    The illegal occupant of Malacanang is worried about the death of Lt. Col. Angel Benitez. His death might unleash the anger of our military againt this criminal bansot and fatboy pidal.

    That’s why they are now using their paid screaming media and bloggers to inject lies about Lt. Col. Benitez so that he is not going to be the rallying cry of our military against bansot and fatboy pidal.

  184. etcetera - August 23, 2008 12:10 am

    Ha! Sabi ni bansot na titingnan daw niya na maitaas ang sahod ng military at police. Natatakot ni sa bansot kaya pinamomod nya na ang pera. Sana ay maisip ng mga sundalo na kunyari lang na itataas ang sahod nila para hindi nila katayin si bansot at fatboy pidal. At kung totoo mang itataas ang sahod ay dahil gusto lang silang lagyan ni bansot para tumahimik sila.

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