Ermita’s Sabah memo

When Gloria Arroyo’s “special envoys” to Malaysia, minus National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales, met with Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi in Kuala Lumpur yesterday, did they also discuss Sabah?

I’m curious because last Aug. 20, two weeks after the aborted signing of the Malaysian-brokered Memorandum of Agreement on Ancestral Domain between the Philippine government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita issued Memorandum Circular 612 titled “Guidelines on Matters Pertaining to North Borneo (Sabah)”

The memo gives four instructions:

One, “No department, agency, or instrumentality of the Philippine Government shall make any act or statement expressing or implying, directly or indirectly, any recognition of a foreign state’s sovereignty over North Borneo (Sabah) or non-recognition of Philippine title of historical and legal rights to the same.”

Two, “Any official activity, act or statement relating to North Borneo (Sabah) or which may have bearing on the Philippine claim to said territory shall be carried out only with the clearance of or after consultations with the Department of Foreign Affairs.

Three, “Reference to North Borneo (Sabah) in official documents should not include its being part of a larger national/federal territory. These documents include, but are not limited to, the following: Philippine passports, agreement, agreed minutes, joint communiqués, record of discussion, and similar documents.

Four, “The Philippine government officials visiting North Borneo (Sabah) shall provide DFA with a report on their travel.”

What prompted Ermita to issue the memo? Is there some sort of a movement in the 35-year old Philippine claim on Sabah? Is the memo related to the MOA-AD fiasco?

Many were curious about the active role of Malaysia in the GRP-MILF talks and there were speculations that the Arroyo government had made a commitment to Malaysia to drop the Sabah claim in exchange for the Malaysian non-support of the MILF’s secessionist crusade.

The speculations were not exactly far fetched because when Arroyo came home from a state visit in Malaysia in August 2001, she announced that her government would be setting up an economic and cultural office in Saba to take care of the more than half- a -million Filipinos in the disputed territory.

These were her exact words: “We have more than half a million Filipinos living in Sabah. Many of them are undocumented and are subject to periodic crackdowns by immigration authorities. Sometimes they end up becoming boat people fro a few days because when they are sent out of Malaysia because they don’t have Malaysian papers, they are sent back to Zamboanga. And Zamboanga says we have no record that you are a Filipino citizen. So they’re deported back to Sabach. It’s an irritant. Not only an irritant in our relationship but a great inconvenience and suffering for those individuals themselves. It is time to put up an office to protect them.

“I am asking Vice president Guingona, who is also our secretary of foreign affairs to set up an economic and cultural office in Sabah similar to the one that we have in Taipei in order to protect our Filipino workers in Sabah.”

A MECO-like center is a consulate in disguise. Arroyo fooled no one there. (The reason why it’s called MECO in Taipei because the Philippines has adopted a One-China policy which treats Taiwan as a province.)

Foreign Affairs officials said the establishment of a consulate/cultural and economic center in Kota Kinabalu in Sabah was strongly suggested by then Prime Minister Mohammad Mahathir to Arroyo in their bilateral talks where they also discussed Malaysia’s cooperation in convincing the MILF to the peace talks.

Malaysia would like a Philippine consulate in Sabah because that would have the effect of dropping the Philippine claim on the resources-rich territory. It’s common sense: a state does not establish a consulate in its own territory.

If the Malaysians thought Arroyo, with her shaky hold on power, is easier to handle compared to her predecessors, they underestimated her shrewdness. After her announcement of a “MECO-like office in Sabah” nothing was heard about it. Never was a budget allocated for it.

The explanation was, Arroyo’s legal advisers warned her that she could be impeached for giving away Sabah to Malaysians.

I surmise the Ermita memo has more to do with the archipelagic baseline bill being deliberated in the Senate rather than the MOA-AD fiasco.

Very soon, Congress will be passing a law delineating the Philippine archipelagic baseline, which would be the basis of our claim for extended continental shelf to be submitted to the United Nations under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea not later than May 13, 2009. Sabah is not included in any of the six bills delineating the country’s baseline which basically is a line connecting the basepoints that define, in longitude and latitude, the archipelagic boundaries.

But non-inclusion in the country’s baseline does not mean dropping the Philippine claim on Sabah because it will be reiterated in the new law that it does not prejudice the country’s claim to Sabah. As Henry Bensurto, head of the Commission on Maritime and Ocean Affairs (CMOA) Secretariat, “the baseline is not a mode of acquiring ownership.The same way, it is not a mode of losing ownership as well.”

I’d like to think that Ermita’s memo is merely an anticipatory move to prevent suspicions that Arroyo has once again given away Sabah to the Malaysians like she did with the Spratlys to the Chinese , the Tokyo property to a Japanese business group, and parts of Mindanao to the MILF.

Given Arroyo’s minus 38 credibility, people will believe the worst of her.

September 12, 2008 12:20 am  Tags: , , ,   Posted in: Foreign Affairs, Malaya

118 Responses

  1. Renato Pacifico - September 12, 2008 12:53 am

    test

  2. chi - September 12, 2008 1:20 am

    Nah! That Pidal woman can give away everything easily as long as it’s not hers!

    I bet, Gloria does not even know the history of Sabah. Dapat diyan ay isungalngal sa bunganga ang mga documents!

  3. chi - September 12, 2008 1:27 am

    Kahit na anuman ang gawin ni Ermita na “anticipatory” moves para pagtakpan ang kanyang presidente, wala na siyang magagawa. Nada, zero, zilc, non credibility si Gloria. E pati nga siya ay malamang na hindi naniniwala kay Gloria at kaya niya ginagawa ang lahat para sa survival ng impakta ay dahil siya ang isa sa biggest beneficiary ng administrayong ito.

  4. Diego K. Guerrero - September 12, 2008 1:33 am

    One day we wake up and realize that everything’s gone. Everything’s all gone courtesy of treacherous Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.

  5. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 2:02 am

    Ate Ellen,

    Your story about this Sabah memo brings about some memories and recollections. Tawi-tawi and its border with Malaysia are something that us Marines are fond of. We happen to be the guardians of this border. I remember our assignments in Taganak Island (Turtle Island) fronting Sandakan, Malaysia where we buy our food supplies because it is very much nearer than the mainland Bongao municipality. It is just about the same distance as Sangley Point in Cavite and Roxas Blvd. We also get our mails then from Luzon sent thru a P.O. box from friends in Malaysia. We send letters thru Malaysia and it reaches its destination in Manila in one day than by sending it thru Bongao, Tawi-tawi which takes about a month.

  6. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 2:07 am

    I also remember the story about the MALDANAS INCIDENT related to us by one of our senior officers who was then a Lieutenant aasigned in Tawi-tawi. Maldanas is an atoll just behind the island of Sitangkai (known as the Venice of the South). Sometime in 1985 or 1986, this island (Maldanas) was attacked by Malaysian forces (Police and Navy). This incident was a result of a bank robbery in Sandakan conducted by our Muslim brothers whereby some Malysian policemen were killed while in pursuit. The bank robbers were able to get away but the Malaysian police conducted hot pursuit operations together with its Navy. That’s where they found themselves deep in Philippine territory which is Maldanas.

  7. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 2:09 am

    By the way, this incident saw print only for one day because a news blackout was imposed.

  8. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 2:15 am

    The Lieutenant then, who is a Colonel now, happened to be the Company Commander of of the most advanced force guarding our territorial border. He saw for himself how the Malaysians entered our territorial waters, his platoon at Taganak Island was surrounded by Malaysian forces and his platoon at Sitangkai heard gunfires at Maldanas. His unit was under the late Gen Asuncion. The instructions given was to prevent any Malysian force to set foot on any ground in Philippine territory. However, the Malaysian Navy was all over our waters because the two Navy vessels that were deployed in the area left the night before. Had they been there, surely ther could have been an engagement. Anyway, no Malaysian force was able to land in any island of the Tawi-tawi archipelago….for the comfort of anyone reading this.

  9. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 2:16 am

    The continuation of this story would need several cases of beer or a bottle of Tanduay…..hehehehehe

  10. Renato Pacifico - September 12, 2008 2:25 am

    Am I in?

  11. chi - September 12, 2008 2:46 am

    sulbatz,

    How many cases of beer you need to finish the story? Sagot ko basta tapusin mo lang, heheh!

    I’m all ears and eyes for the continuation of the Tawi-Tawi saga. Sitangkai, I love that island…it’s so beautiful. And yes, it’s comparable to the beauty of Venice.

  12. Cocoy's Delight - September 12, 2008 2:54 am

    Sagot ko na rin ang pampa-usok na Bataan Matamis Sulbatz.
    Babakas muna ako sa iyo dahil ikaw ang banka.Hehehehe!

  13. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 3:06 am

    Sulbatz, Malaysian forces trespassing to our territories for any reason happened not a few times but many times. And so are the Sprately islands. Often, Malaysians explain they’re running after the pirates…true or not, we don’t care. Our military is among the weakest if not the weakest in Asia. If we engage Malaysia in a combat, I doubt if we have a chance.

  14. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 3:25 am

    Hehehehehe…

    Ok, i’ll take the beer offer of Chi and the Marlboro of Cocoy. But before that, BE…we may be the weakest armed forces in the Far East as of now, but we don’t lack in BALLS. That I can assure you. Over our dead and rotten bodies would these Malysians ever set foot on our shores. We will fight to the last rusty Bolos that we have. hehehehe

  15. J. Cruz - September 12, 2008 3:25 am

    Since mass-based explosion is out of the question, I will just patiently wait for greed-based implosion to take place, hopefully, very soon!

  16. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 3:26 am

    I am not much of a good story-teller but I’ll try to do my best based on my recollections as related to me. Sana makausap ni Ate Ellen yung principal person na nakakaalam nito. She knows him, I guess.

  17. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 3:32 am

    Anyway, this is how the story goes…….

    One afternoon sometime in late 1985 or 86, I guess….this Lieutenant was having coffee in one of his Marine detachments in Bongao, Tawi-Tawi. He was the Company commander then with his troops deployed in Sanga-Sanga Island to guard that airstrip, in Sitangkai Island, in Bongao municipal proper and in Taganak Island. These deployments are very far from each other. It takes several hours to get from one island to another. Wala pang celfones nun. Military radios lang ang gamit at kadalasan di pa magkarinigan

  18. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 3:38 am

    While having his coffee by the beach, he saw from the horizon a ship resembling that of one of our patrol ships. He thought then that it was our own. A few minutes after, another ship appeared from the horizon resembling that of an LST (Landing Ship Tanked). He thought to himself, walanghiya tong mga Navy natin, iiwanan na naman tayo….because these ships were traversing the route towards Zamboanga. Later on, several ships again appeared from the horizon following the wakeof the two. Sabi nung Lieutenent nun…teka, parang hindi na sa atin to, ah. What he did was to call his headquarters to inquire whether our Navy ships which were berthed at BAto-bato naval station was still there. He got a negative reply because the two ships left for Zamboanga the night before. That confirmed his suspicions that the naval convoy infront of him was not ours. hiiikkkkkk

  19. chi - September 12, 2008 4:18 am

    “we may be the weakest armed forces in the Far East as of now, but we don’t lack in BALLS.” -Sulbatz

    YEHEY!

  20. chi - September 12, 2008 4:22 am

    Then…? Kulang pa yata ng isang kahon. :)

  21. chi - September 12, 2008 4:28 am

    In Sanga-Sanga, we attended a very colorful Islam wedding, nakahapag sa floor ng bahay ang lahat ng pagkain, yummy!!!

  22. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 4:47 am

    Subaltz, having balls is not enough. They have to be hard and productive.

  23. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 4:49 am

    A case in point, Neri also has balls…but it’s only as big as my puppy’s. JDV has balls…but his balls are old and messy.
    Esperon has balls…but his balls are located in his ass.

  24. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 5:00 am

    Chi,

    The Sanga-sanga airstrip used to be sand only. Early 90′s na lang ata na-aspalto yun. That area used to be isolated and desolate. Yung flight ng PAL is about 2-3 times a week. Ang ginagawa namin kunyari may “sightings” ng rebelde para ma-delay ang flight so that we would have more time with the stewardesses. Atin-atin lang yan ha! Hehehehe. We would bring them buko in exchange for their newspapers. Yun lang ang kaligayahan namin nun,

    I’m feeling drowsy. I’ll continue with my story when I wake up mamaya minus the hangover. Give me a BUZZ around 10am Basilan time. Mahaba pa yang story.

  25. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 5:02 am

    BE,

    Our balls are in the right places. Hehehehehe

  26. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 5:03 am

    ….Some maybe heavier than others, but I can’t really speak for them. Hehehehe

  27. Valdemar - September 12, 2008 5:05 am

    Subaltz,
    We lost an island at the Spratlys when the marines swam to the next island to take on a ballast of beer and gin on a birthday binge with the marines there but couldnt go back for the atoll was already inundated with the vietnamese like a thief in the night.

    But where is Mandanas?

  28. Valdemar - September 12, 2008 5:07 am

    That memo came about after Blair was sounded off by PGMA.

  29. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 5:10 am

    Val,

    Maldanas island is in Tawi-tawi. It’s a very small island with about 7 to 10 coconut trees. It’s as big as a track oval during low tide and as small as the balls of Esperon during high tide. It is west of Sitangkai Island.

  30. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 5:11 am

    Val,

    That Blair thing is very interesting. I will touch on that in the course of my story………

  31. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 5:14 am

    Val,

    That Spratly story is myth. I know what happened there and it is nowhere from what you know.

  32. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 6:25 am

    # SULBATZ Says:

    September 12th, 2008 at 5:02 am

    BE,

    Our balls are in the right places. Hehehehehe

    …but are they well-balanced?

  33. neonate - September 12, 2008 7:19 am

    In the context of the Sabah memo topic, what I said earlier is worth repeating. The Palace Propaganda Corps has done a good job of brain-washing Mr. Anthony Golez in the bureaucratic defense-by-denial technique. He is presuming that the “deportees” (from Sabah) are undocumented Filipinos (the Malaysian terminology) and NOT Sabahians being banished as undesirable criminals and bums. Before the modern concept of national sovereignty and its defining borders, the people of Sulu and Sabah moved freely to and fro sans the hindrance of documents. Those untrammeled sojourners never feared a travel ban in seeking a livelihood.

    Sulbatz’s anecdotes mentioning those exotic islands of Taganak and Sitankal. even Sandakan (a fair size city now but a cluster of nipa huts then), brings back memories http://tinyurl.com/3ttocx . And speaking of balls, remember the recent turmoil when both Thailand’s Thaksin and Ate Glue were being pressured to relinquish power? Well, Thaksin fled but Ate Glue held fast, drawing the comment that Ate Glue has balls, Thaksin none.
    Viewed from a wider perspective the panorama is more awesome as it encompasses the geopolitics of the South China Sea, our baselines under UNCLOS, the Spratlys and its potential oil reserves, U.S. hegemony and its Pacific rim missile shield and the outcome of American elections in Nov 2008.

  34. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 9:09 am

    CARACAS, Venezuela – President Hugo Chavez said the US ambassador has 72 hours to leave Venezuela and that he’s recalling his ambassador from Washington.

    Chavez announced the decision during a televised speech, hours after saying his government had detained a group of alleged conspirators in a plot to overthrow him.

    Chavez accused the group of current and former military officers of trying to assassinate him with backing from the United States. He didn’t offer evidence.

    …Can the Philippines follow what Chavez did and tell Amb. Kenney to leave for meddling?

  35. Cocoy's Delight - September 12, 2008 9:49 am

    Kailangan matanong natin si Sabio kung ano na ang nangyari sa mga nabawing yaman ni Marcos?

    Iyang Sabah hinabol ng tatay sa Malaysia,ipinagbili naman ng anak.

  36. atty36252 - September 12, 2008 10:02 am

    …Can the Philippines follow what Chavez did and tell Amb. Kenney to leave for meddling?
    **************************

    Mas mabangis ang paratang ng Bolivia, sa http://www.time.com. Halimbawa:

    A lengthy statement released by Morales’ ruling Movement Towards Socialism (MAS) party claimed that “the United States is carrying out an attempt to overthrow the government of President Evo Morales.” It accuses Goldberg of being the architect behind an ongoing regional conflict between Bolivia’s western highlands and eastern lowlands, which has been boiling over into violence in recent months.

    Citing the ambassador’s previous role as the U.S. State Department’s Bosnia desk officer from 1994 to 1996 and then Chief of Mission in Kosovo from 2004 until 2006, the MAS statement accuses Goldberg of being “an expert in encouraging separatist conflicts.” It chronicles clandestine meetings between the Ambassador and rightwing political and business leaders, and claims that Goldberg had arranged for a media “dirty war” against Morales and is now encouraging the violent takeover of government institutions to force out the president.

    Sounds familiar ba? Para bang Kenney? Hindi daw totoo sabi ng Time magazine. Maybe so, pero yan ang cojones. Kailan kaya lalaki ng ganyan ang itlog ng pugo ni Esperon?

  37. Ellen - September 12, 2008 10:41 am

    Hi Sulbatz, continue mo yung story. kapag tapos na, pagsunud-sunurin ko.

    Here’s the part where you stopped (3:38 a.m.)

    Later on, several ships again appeared from the horizon following the wakeof the two. Sabi nung Lieutenent nun…teka, parang hindi na sa atin to, ah. What he did was to call his headquarters to inquire whether our Navy ships which were berthed at BAto-bato naval station was still there. He got a negative reply because the two ships left for Zamboanga the night before. That confirmed his suspicions that the naval convoy infront of him was not ours. hiiikkkkkk

  38. Cocoy's Delight - September 12, 2008 10:48 am

    Hugo Chaves is a dictator.He is obviously no ally in the desires for world peace of free nations.

    Chavez’s scheme involving government-sponsored armed militias, or Circulos Bolivarianos, modeled on Cuba’s Revolutionary Defense Committees; many of which were trained in Cuba and Libya as social activists, is nothing less than urban-guerrilla fighters.

    Chavez was no stranger to the Middle East and the circle of terror networks lurking and conspiring to do harm to the western hemisphere. In 2001 Chavez paid presidential state visits to Iran, Iraq, and Libya. Fidel Castro was quick to follow his protege with visits to Syria, Libya, and Iran. Chavez signed cooperation agreements with Saddam Hussein, Muammar Qaddafi, and Iran’s ruling mullahs.

  39. etcetera - September 12, 2008 10:53 am

    The endowment has financed unions in France, Paraguay, the Philippines and Panama.

    Those are among the more benign American efforts to intervene in the domestic politics of nations around the globe, activities that have been revealed in declassified documents, memoirs and records of congressional hearings.

    More subtly, it secretly manipulated elections in the Philippines, Lebanon and Nepal with large amounts of covert cash.

    Edward Lansdale, the legendary CIA operative, essentially ran the successful presidential campaign of Defense Minister Ramon Magsaysay in the Philippines in 1953.

    At one point in the campaign, Dulles, then the director of central intelligence, offered Lansdale $5 million to use in the operation. The CIA officer cabled back that he could sway the election for $1 million.

    The agency money was supplemented by secret donations from U.S. corporations doing business in the Philippines, including Coca-Cola.

    http://www.emayzine.com/lectures/usmeddling.htm

  40. etcetera - September 12, 2008 11:02 am

    The 1974-75 US congressional investigations also uncovered CIA intervention in the domestic politics of target countries–from the overthrow of governments, attempted assassinations, to subsidies and financial support for the media, political parties, trade unions, universities and business associations–all designed “to clandestinely influence foreign governments, events, organizations or persons in support of US foreign policy.” (Robinson, 1996; Richelson,1999).

    The CIA in the Philippines has engaged in countless covert operations for intervention and dirty tricks particularly in Philippine domestic politics. On top of all this is the US diplomatic mission, especially the political section that is a favorite cover for many CIA operatives. CIA front companies also provide an additional but convenient layer of cover for operatives assigned overseas. In general, wherever you find US big business interests (like Coca-Cola, Ford, Citicorp, United Fruit, Nike, etc.), you also find a very active CIA. But the covers often used are diversified.

    Desmond Fitzgerald, for instance, a former CIA chief of station in Manila was said to have fronted as a legitimate businessman of an American multinational company. Joseph Smith, a top CIA agent assigned to the Philippines in the early 1960s, posed as a “civilian employee” of the Clark Airforce Base’s 13th Air Force Southeast Asia Regional Survey Unit .On the other hand, CIA operative Gabriel Kaplan’s initial cover was really more “civilian”–with the CIA-created Asia Foundation (formerly the Committee for a Free Asia), then later as resident director of another CIA creation, the COMPADRE both of which we shall be dealing with more extensively later.

    On the other hand, CIA operative David Sternberg fronted as a foreign correspondent for an American newspaper based in Boston, the Christian Science Monitor, when he assisted Gabriel Kaplan in managing the presidential campaign of Ramon Magsaysay in the ’50s.

    http://www.naga.gov.ph/forum/index.php?topic=834.0;wap2

  41. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 11:22 am

    Etcetera, I hope coel has read your post.

    Cocoy, if Chavez is not a dictator, the US would have long eliminated him and invaded Venezuela. Dictatorship is not always bad. Sometimes, a country needs a strong leader…an iron fist.

  42. Anne Nicole - September 12, 2008 11:52 am

    Gising na Sir Sulbatz! Ano pong gusto nyo? black coffee or tea? I’m waiting for the continuation of your story. Pag kayo po kasi ang nag kwento all ears po talaga ang lahat ng bloggers sa ellenvile. Kasi credible kayo hindi po kayo kutsero.hehehe!

  43. Rose - September 12, 2008 12:13 pm

    Cocoy: kailangan talagang bantayan si camilo Sabio..was it you who said hawak niya ang combination sa safe containing the “Marcos” yaman..can we get him out? disbar him? baka makalipad siya…

  44. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 12, 2008 1:49 pm

    Anne Nicole,
    Sigurado ako mas gusto ni Sulbatz ang masahe. Para sa hangover niya.

    Tama ka, hindi pinaniniwalaan dito ang kutsero. Ang may kredibilidad yung sepulturero at tindero ng tinapa.

  45. colegiala girl - September 12, 2008 1:54 pm

    Kapag nakalipad si Sabio baka lumipad na rin iyang kaha de yero, hehe. Kaya pala matapang ang apog ng mamang ito, siya ngayon ang may hawak ng susi.

    Sir Sulbatz,
    Pakituloy lang po ang inyong kuwento, nice to hear a fragment of Philippine history from someone who has the first hand knowledge of events, thanks.

  46. Anne Nicole - September 12, 2008 2:22 pm

    Tongue sorry! kape lang ang kaya kong gawin para kay Sir Sulbatz. Hindi kasi ako marunong magmasahe, karate marunong ako! gusto kaya nya un? hehehe! Sir Sulbatz marami napong naghihintay sa Phil.History lesson ninyo dito sa ellenvile kagaya po ni mam ellen at colegiala girl pati narin po ako.. we are all waiting!

  47. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 12, 2008 2:37 pm

    etcetera,
    Mahilig ka rin pala sa mga istoryang ganyan. I recommend your read these too:
    http://www.yonip.com/main/articles/philippines.html
    http://www.counterpunch.org/hassan06042004.html
    http://www.copvcia.com/
    http://www.counterpunch.org/chuckman05152004.html

    I have a lot of these links in my other computer. What is common though is about how US foreign policy uses drugs, money, weapons, torture, and political puppets to exert influence over many nations. The Philippines has been regularly mentioned in these journals, not just because many of the CIA leaders, multinational CEOs, ex-ambassadors and whoever, got, and still get their best on-the-job training here in Manila, Subic/Clark, and Zamboanga. Ambassadors John Negroponte, Stephen Bosworth, Francis Ricciardone, Frank Wisner, Nicholas Platt, Michael Armacost, Richard Solomon and many others all got very juicy spots after their Philippine tour of duty. Especially Negroponte who is ambassador to the US’ biggest embassy, guarded by 150,000 marines, and a compliment of private security contractors and mercenaries. In Baghdad, that is. Give Kenney a few more years and maybe she’ll be off to “supervising” her own separatist war somewhere in South America, Central/West Africa, or Eastern Europe.

    One Ambassador though failed his OJT, when his not-so-kind remarks on Noli De Castro and Gloria Arroyo was leaked to the public.

  48. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 3:27 pm

    ….continuation (over a cup of coffee)
    My source told me, what he did when he saw what appears to be a naval convoy coming out of the horizon, he called his headquarters again to inform them. This information was relayed to the late Gen Asuncion (CG, Task Force Tawi-Tawi) who was then in Zamboanga City. What Gen Asuncion did was to call the Lieutenant directly thru radio to inquire. He was shouting in the radio, “Identify masthead, identify masthead!!”. SAbi nung Lieutenant nun sa sarili nya, “Putragis, tulog ako nung itinuro yang lintik na masthead na yan sa NOQC (Naval Officer Qualification Course) naming. But he answered back, “I am sorry sir, I’m not sure what you mean but what I know is that what is front of me now are not our ships.”

  49. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 3:33 pm

    While all these were happening, little did the Lt. know and neither anyone from the units deployed there, that there was a bank robbery in Sandakan perpetrated by Muslim pirates. However, the platoon in Taganak island was already trying to radio its Company in Sanga-sanga when they noticed a hostile force of Malaysians aboard watercrafts near their vicinity. Sa sama nga ng signal ng radio nun, di nila makontak ang Company nila. It took them from morning till late afternoon ng magkarinigan.

  50. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 3:51 pm

    Late in the afternoon, the Lt. received a radio call from his unit in Sitangkay, informing him that they heard gunfire in the vicinity and direction of Maldanas Island. Malakas daw yung volume of fire at medyo matagal ang bakbakan. That’s when the Marines in Tawi-Tawi realized that these were not ordinary pirates fighting among each other but that of another bigger force in hot pursuit. Walang barko ang Marines dun, so there is nothing they could do except to wait for any landings in the islands and to protect the airstrip. Then things began to evolve. Nag-scramble na. There were instructions being given not to allow any force to set foot in Philippine soil, defend everything at all cost, etc. The Lt. called his platoon in Taganak with the same instructions and not to wait for reinforcements as there is none coming during that time. Basta walang makakalanding kahit maubos pa tayo. That was the sentiment and psyche then.

  51. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 3:53 pm

    It must be noted that the Sulu/Tawi-Tawi archipelago comprise about 1/3 of the whole Philippine archipelago of 7,000 islands. Eh yung Marines dun isang Battalion lang of about 400. Kahit ilagay mo pa sila isa sa bawat isla, kulang pa rin.

  52. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 3:56 pm

    Then it was a night of waiting, monitoring and info gathering. Little did the Marines know, the diplomatic community and the Philippine government were burning all diplomatic lines the whole night. It was only in the morning of the following day that the real story regarding the incident began to clear up.

  53. ayeeh - September 12, 2008 4:00 pm

    haiz…what kind of life we will have in the future with this kind of people. gigising tayo one day na pati tayo nakasangla na pala. kakalungkot sana isa na lang akong ibon na may laya pa rin kahit papaano.

  54. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 4:02 pm

    While all these things were happening, somewhere in Zamboanga City, our F5 jet fighters began to arrive from its base in Palawan. Nag-scramble din pala sila. However, residents in Zamboanga City staged a rally kasi nagulat sila kung bakit may mga jet fighters na sa Air base. They were shouting “militarization”. Dir in kasi nila alam na may nangyayari na sa Tawi-Tawi. You could just imagine…a foreign naval force is just about a few hours away from our biggest naval base in the south which is located in Zamboanga City. That’s a very precarious situation had it developed into an armed conflict. On hindsight, sabi nga nung Lt., “kung nagkataon na hindi umalis yung dalawang barko natin the night before, sigurado magkakaroon ng naval engagement kasi nga icha-challenge nya talaga ang any intrusion ng foreign vessels, moreso kung ito ay armed and hostile.

  55. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 4:04 pm

    Nakakapagod din pala mag-story telling. Whewww!!!
    Kape muna….be right back.

  56. Anne Nicole - September 12, 2008 4:29 pm

    Thanks for continuing your story sir Sulbatz lalong nagiging interesting habang tumatagal ung kwento. At lalo akong humahanga sa mga sundalo nating handang mamatay mai pagtanggol lang ang bayan sa mga intruder. stand by lang po kami dito pra sa kabuuan ng inyong story telling.

  57. Rose - September 12, 2008 6:39 pm

    etceteraL hindi ba si Ed Landsdale ay yong The Ugly Amercan referred to sa libro? I don’t remember who the author is but I can not erase in my mind the line..”for the monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga.”
    …si Sabio ay taga Cagayan de Oro kaya bantayan at baka makalipad..at ang sabi niya hindi daw siya mag reresign..the only way he will be out is when Gloria tells him to..magkano kaya ang tongpats niya?..nakakalungkot kasi hindi ko akalain na ang Camilo na nakilala ko sa Ateneo noon ay nasilaw ng pera..at ang pera na napunta sa kanya ay hindi pira pirASO..naging tuta siya..at bright boy siya of the Ateneo de Manila Law school.. at Ethics teacher siya? Where are the “ideal guys” of Ateneo gone? long time passing? when will they ever learn? malapit sa Padre Faura ang Aviles where Ginebra San Miguel marca demonyo is brewed..Time to pray to St. Jude (the patro saint of hopeless cases) sa Aviles din ang simbahan..at Oct. 28 ang feast day!

  58. norpil - September 12, 2008 6:55 pm

    thanks

  59. norpil - September 12, 2008 6:56 pm

    sorry, nalimutan ko to sulbatz pala.

  60. chi - September 12, 2008 8:09 pm

    norpil,

    Tuned in ka rin pala. :)

  61. chi - September 12, 2008 8:09 pm

    sulbatz,

    I woke up early….marami na palang nangyari.

  62. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 8:48 pm

    Continuation……

    When things began to clear, what happened pala is that a group of Muslim pirates robbed a bank in Sandakan. During their escape, they were able to kill some Malaysian policemen. Sa galit ng Malaysians, nag-hot pursuit sila hanggang Maldanas island where the bank robbers made an initial stop. Nagkabakbakan dun at talagang pinaulanan ng bala ng Malaysians yung mga bank robbers hanggang sa yung iilang puno ng niyog dun eh naputol ata lahat. But the robbers were able to escape unscathed towards Zamboanga
    City. In the course of the hot pursuit, that’s where the Malaysians found themselves in the vicinity of Bongao, Tawi-Tawi and that’s where the Lt saw them. Some of the Malaysian Maritime police where in the vicinity of Taganak island where the platoon deployed there saw them too.

  63. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 8:56 pm

    The following day, or a day after the incident, the US ambassador and some other Caucasian-looking dignitaries and some Asian-looking ones arrived at Sanga-Sanga airport together with Philippine government officials and top-ranked military brass. They conducted an ocular inspection of Maldanas island using helicopters and they saw for themselves the devastation done to some 7 or 8 coconut trees (hehehehe) which could only happen if the Malaysians used heavy weapons. Sabi nung Lt., pinatawag daw sya ng CO nya at ng mag-report sya, andun yung mga Caucasian and Asian-looking personalities. He was asked daw what his initial report was? Ang tawag dun eh Spot Report. The Lt said that what he saw and what his troops saw and heard were Malaysian in origin. That’s what he put in the report. However, he was ordered to change the report that instead of putting “foreign vessels, probably Malaysian”, he should instead state in the report that it was the US SEVENTH FLEET” that passed by.

  64. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 8:59 pm

    That became the official version of the incident. But what could not be explained is why the “US 7th Fleet” should be firing at the island of Maldanas. Anyway, during the follow-up operations conducted by another Marine battalion against the bank robbers in Zamboanga City, they were able to recover part of the loot….sacks of RINGGITS.

  65. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 9:05 pm

    Later on, the Lt began to understand why he has to report the incident as dictated by his superiors. Kung nagkabakbakan pala ang Pinas at ang Malaysia, involved syempre ang kano at British. May Mutual Defense Treaty tayo sa Kano habang ang Malaysians ay may treaty rin sa British maliban sa ito ay Commonwealth nation ng Britain. Eh di yung Kano at Britain ang nagbakbakan sana. SANA……however, sa MDT natin with the US, involvement ng Kano sa conflict natin would require Congressional approval sa kanila. And only when we are attacked. There is no assurance really na tutulong ang Kano. And it’s a different case when it comes to the Malaysians and the British.

    Siguro, kaya ng i-explain yan ng mga experts natin ditto sa Ellenville. Dito nagtatapos ang aking salaysay. Maraming salamat sainyong walang sawang pagbabasa. Hanggang sa susunod muling salaysay.

  66. chi - September 12, 2008 9:08 pm

    Sus, US 7th Fleet para wala ng kuskus-balungos na tanong. Period kaagad para walang diplomatic protest na gawin sa Malaysia sa pagbomba nila sa Maldanas.

    Sabah…so near yet so far!

  67. chi - September 12, 2008 9:17 pm

    A, nauna ang conclusion ko. I don’t think that because of this incident Britain would have declared war with the US or vice-versa. Mag-iimbestiga muna sila pareho since they are allies, and it’s not the kind of issue they will risk their standings.

    Ganun pa rin sa itaas ang aking conclusion. Walang balls ang mga Pinas lider na mag-protesta sa Malaysia sa kanilang pagbomba sa Maldanas, lalo pa at mga muslim pinoys ang robbers.

    Thanks so very much, Sulbatz.
    Sa susunod…

  68. chi - September 12, 2008 9:24 pm

    Iwas pusoy and mga Pinas lider pagdating sa usapang Sabah.

    Sabi siguro ng mga musling pinoy: e atin naman itong Sandakan kaya dito tayo magnakaw.

    Sabi naman ng Malaysia: Over our dead bodies na mapupuntang muli sa inyo ang Sabah.

    Sabi naman ng Pinas leadership: Hayaan na natin ang Malaysia sa gusto nilang gawin sa atin…

  69. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 9:26 pm

    YW Chi….By the way, the British and Australians are drilling for oil inside our territorial waters proximate to Taganak Island. As of now, yung Australians andun pa rin. I dunno if a lot of people know about this.

  70. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 9:30 pm

    A Marine officer is married to one of the heirs of the Sulu sultanate. I cannot mention his name here. Anyway, they are still receiving rent from the Malaysian government. I happen to be a friend of the Sultan. Ilang beses na rin ako nakatulog sa bahay nila.

  71. prans - September 12, 2008 9:46 pm

    12 September 2008

    As I said in the previous topic, I said that in order for the RP government to stop the crackdown or deportation of Filipinos in Sabah, all RP should do is calim Sabah from the MALIsian, and that is the only time that Filipinos will not leave Sabah anymore.

    Unfortunately, from the time of cory, ramos, erap and now the evil bitch by the stinkin river they have no political will to claim Sabah. Now, this administration is asking MALIsia to help(???)us in talking with the MILF. Geezzz, this administration is being taken lightly by the MALIsia and they are using a dual approach so that we will freeze our Sabah claim. STUPID MORONS

    prans

  72. Renato Pacifico - September 12, 2008 9:54 pm

    let me see now

  73. RMP - September 12, 2008 9:55 pm

    let me see now if i’m in

  74. Rose - September 12, 2008 9:56 pm

    Si Camilo SAbio daw nag file ng indefinite leave of absence..bakit hindi resignation?

  75. chi - September 12, 2008 10:01 pm

    Yes, Sulbatz…alam ko. And I trully believe that Kenney (for US interest) is almost a resident there because of this oil/gas that abound in the area.

    Pareho yata ang ating ginagalawan? :)

    A younger sis and hubby of the heirs of Sulu became our good friends (matagal na nga lang na hindi kami nagkikita), and they showed us the documents of their claims to Sabah, including the rental agreement which I suppose they get until now. Equivalent lang ng $50.00/per month, if I remember it right. Just don’t know kung nagkarun ng increase…heheh!

    Kaya nga when some people say that Sabah is not ours, my only argument is: If so, why is Malaysia still renting it from the family of the Sultan of Sulu?

    In this issue of Sabah, saludo ako kay Marcos (kahit sa mga news ko lang ngayon nababasa ) about his efforts to reclaim Sabah.

    Si Ramos ay natupi kay Mahathir…I know. Nandun na sa hotel, invited ang dalawang kapatid ng Sultan kasama sina Abbas (congressman ba yun nun? others I can’t remember)…ready daw to formally announce his plans on Sabah. Natapos ang presscon ay walang hiho sa isyu at tuluyang inisnab ang magkapatid na kanyang pinaimbita. Suot pa mandin ng magkapatid ang pinakamahal at pinakamagandang amerikana ng aking kabiyak, heheh.

    Pero mas masahol ang ginagawa ni Gloria….

  76. chi - September 12, 2008 10:23 pm

    con’t…

    Para sa mga hindi pa nakakaalam, ang royal family ng Borneo ay pinsan ng mga Kiram.

    Ang balita ko noon, baka ma-confirm ni Sulbatz, iyan daw coastal area ng Sabah, Borneo at mga binanggit ni Sulbatz sa itaas nito ay napakayaman talaga sa oil at gas. Umupo ka lang sa aplaya at maghukay ng konti ay biglang may sisirit na puting liquid na kung sisindihan ay nag-aapoy. Di ba kaya napakayaman ng Sultan of Brunei dahil sa minang ito?

  77. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 10:23 pm

    I think, the origin of this Sabah memo is the scuttlebutt going around that Gloria made a sinister deal with the Malaysians with regard to our Sabah claim. I hope this is not true. Siguro yung mga Sherlock Holmes dyan pwedeng amuyin to.

  78. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 10:26 pm

    Chi,

    I was able to talk to the security people ng British company na naghuhkay ng langis dun sa Tawi-Tawi. Ang sabi nila, PAKENSYETT!!!! marami daw laman.

    GAnun din yung feedback sa Australian company na andun. Nakausap ko rin yung isang kasama dun.

  79. chi - September 12, 2008 10:26 pm

    I pray not! If true, sana ay sumabog ang totoo sa sinester deal na yan at ng tuluyang matodas ang impakta na ito.

  80. chi - September 12, 2008 10:28 pm

    Thanks, Sulbatz.

    Ang yaman talaga ng Pinas, bakit tayo naghihirap ng ganito?!!!!

  81. kabute - September 12, 2008 10:49 pm

    Why can’t the Philippines do the exploration and mining of oil and gas in the Sulu Tawi-Tawi areas? Do we have the capability and technology to do it? If not, why doesn’t the government work to develop the capability and technology? Why allow foreign interests do the exploration and mining? These are strategic resources and owned by the people.

  82. chi - September 12, 2008 10:58 pm

    Good questions, kabute.

    Baka meron input si tongue, jug, neonate at iba pa. In my opinion kasi ay purely political and personal interests, in general, ng ating mga lider ang dahilan.

  83. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 11:05 pm

    Maraming kwento ang mga Pilipino natin sa Sabah lalo na yung mga nira-round up at kung papano sila tratuhin. I have personally met a lot of them when i was in Tawi-Tawi. There was even a time in 1995 na isang malaking barko ng puno ng Pinoy ang dineport papuntang Zamboanga City. Nagka-problema ang city government kung papano papakainin at kung saan ilalagay. Their stories would break your heart. Para daw silang mga baboy kung tratuhin ng Malaysian authorities lalo na yung Malaysian police.

  84. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 11:09 pm

    Speaking of Sabah which undoubtedly belongs to RP, many of the residents there are Filipinos. Many have been living there for decades and were even born there. Many married the locals.
    If a conflict or war is to break out, the ones to suffer are our own fellow Filipinos.

  85. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 11:09 pm

    Also in 1995, another incident happened in Sandakan where the married daughter of a religious from Sulu was raped and deported by Malaysian police. It so happened ng may mga kamag-anak na MNLF yung family ng babae. What happened was they attacked a detachment of the Malaysian police at ang dami na namang namatay. It became another irritant between Phil-Mlaysian relations. I personally know about this because I was there during that time. Di lang napansin ng media masyado. Ang dami pang incidents. Kaya lang baka kulangin ang space ni Ate Ellen dito. Hehehehe

  86. Tedanz - September 12, 2008 11:15 pm

    Kabute at Chi, walang Tong-pats kaya ayaw ng Gobyerno. Kahit sino pa ang papalit kay Glorya. Yan ang mga ina-asam-asam ng mga gustong maging Pangulo ng ating Bansa …. TONG-PATS.

  87. SULBATZ - September 12, 2008 11:15 pm

    Sabah’s population is almost Joloanos, aside from those from Luzon and Visayas. If I am not mistaken, there was a time that the Governor of Sabah was a Joloano. The reason why the Malaysians keep deporting our compatriots is that hey are afraid of a repeat of another Singapore where the Chinese seceded. Pag napuno nga naman ng Pinoy ang Sabah eh baka mag-secede at bumalik sa Pinas ang pag-aari.

  88. Tedanz - September 12, 2008 11:17 pm

    Kita niyo nga ngayon parang mga asong ulol na ang mga oposisyon. Sigurado na marami pang lalabas na anomalya. Ika nga …. DOG EATS DOG.
    Si Glorya ay natatawa lang sa kanila.

  89. grizzy - September 12, 2008 11:24 pm

    FYI

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  90. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 11:29 pm

    Tedanz, Gloria is laughing because she’s the mastermind behind all these things. When you say opposition, you need to differentiate the genuine and the fake. There are those claiming to be from the opposition but secretly allied with Malacanang.

  91. grizzy - September 12, 2008 11:30 pm

    Chi,

    Sa totoo lang the dugong aso’s puppies are spreading around that the Pandack Omama is related to the Borneans and probable distant relative (kuno) of the King of Brunei.

    Golly, kiliting-kiliti ang ungas when some Filipinos here tried to flatter her by calling her Princess Laila, the name given her by the King of Brunei when she attended I think the circumcision ceremony for the prince of Brunei sometime in the early part of her stolen reign! Ganoon kahibang ang kapalmuks.

  92. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 11:34 pm

    Ha, ha…the Bitch attended the circumcision ceremony of the Prince of Brunei? What a horny bitch !

  93. coeL - September 12, 2008 11:36 pm

    SULBATZ…Your story is very familiar among Cotabatenos…the biggest smugglers at that time were my buddies in the high school. Their kumpits can carry as much as 5 tons of contraband goods and the water line of each kumpit is just a foot from the water surface. During big waves you can not see them. They outrun navy boats because their max speed can go as much as 40 knot with two caterpillar marine engines. When chased they go as far as Alecia, a cove, at the tip of Zamboanga sur and stay their for a while. I know this for a fact because I designed their boats and supplied them with Caterpilaar marine engines. Most kumpit carriers plying from Cotabato down to the sarangani were design by me.

    During the Marcos time the biggest smugglers in Cotabato paid tong s to Imelda…that was the rumor..how true…I dont know. My specialty at that time was marine, mining and logging and dealt with all the industries covering half of Mindanao…. go on SULBATZ…its good to hear incidents like that that can be attested and to be true….

  94. Philman - September 12, 2008 11:47 pm

    Ellen,

    Sinulat ni Chit Pedrosa at ng Tribune na asar na ang U.S. kay GMA kasi hindi niya na-deliver yung signing ng MOA-ancestral domain. Kabadong mag-influence ng coup and mga Kano, kaya nilagay nila si Chavit Singson as Deputy National Security adviser, dahil Amboy daw si Norberto Gonzales, who might be on the way out. Baka si retiring PNP chief Avelino Razon ang pumalit.

    Anong take mod dito?

  95. bitchevil - September 12, 2008 11:53 pm

    Philman, that’s correct. The US helps a leader she likes and dumps a leader she doesn’t like through ouster or assassination. It’s only this coel who doesn’t believe that the US meddles in other countries.

  96. coeL - September 13, 2008 12:22 am

    SULBATZ…REUR post of 3:38 AM…this might interest you;
    I designed and supplied marine engines to those boats. They can go at 32 knots max with 5 tons net capacity with barely 1 foot water line from water surface. Navy boats at that time can only go as fast as 18 to 22 max. One type is powered by single marine engine (Cat) they call kumpit and the other bigger one were twin powered. When chased they go as far as alecia, there is a cove at tip of zambosur and hide their for a while. I designed 6 boats for them to be used for “fish runner”, the originals were refrigerated….
    not knowing they will be used for smuggling. at that time my expertise was marine, mining and logging. The biggest smuglers at my time were my close muslim friends in the high scool……in Cotabato City what you are posting is not news….they are facts and well known.

  97. Jake Las Pinas - September 13, 2008 1:27 am

    Palagay ko nilalagyan ng Malaysian govt ang mga presidente natin para hindi mag claim sa Sabah. Magulo kasi. Unang una bakit mag claim ang Pinas kung hindi naman sa Pilipinas yun. Ang may ari ng Sabah ay mga heirs ng Sultan ng Sulu na hindi Pilipino ayon sa kanila.

    Mr. Sulbatz yun Spratly naman:)

  98. Diego K. Guerrero - September 13, 2008 3:39 am

    Re: Maldanas Island, Tawi-Tawi foreign incursion incident

    The bottom line is that modernization of the Philippine Navy may have prevented foreign incursion in our territories. High speed gunboats (PT boat variation) armed with missiles may help to deter high seas pirates and other hostile foreign attacks. Massive corruptions in the military have prevented PN’s modernization plan. Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) sold Fort Bonifacio’s prime real estate for P12 billion, of which 30 percent for AFP modernization. Whatever happened to P3.6 billion modernization fund of the AFP? It’s all gone without a trace.

  99. coeL - September 13, 2008 5:50 am

    BitchEviL: read carefully my post before you came to conclusion….I said if the Philippine government does not want the US government to meddle into their internal affairs…they should not beg for dole outs…because for every dole outs there conditions imposed!You seemed to not understand this and you keep on talking further…YOU HAVE NOT PROVEN ANYTHINNG YET…ALL TALK……SHOW ME DOCUMENTS, ASIDE FROM HERESAY AND RUMORS, TO PROVE THE WORTH OF YOUR RUMORS. but there are lots of newspaper clippings to prove that the Philippine beg for aid from the United States AND ALL OF THESE HAVE STRINGS ATTACHED!

  100. eddfajardo - September 13, 2008 6:33 am

    Sulbatz, dati ka pala sa Marines. Baka tayo ay magkakilala. Ako’y dating Academic Secretary ng PMTC, pinalitan ko si Major Subala during the time of Col. Guillermo Ruiz. Kasama ako sa mga trainors ni Bong Bong Marcos sa MBOC 1. Sina then Lt. Tagayun at Endoza ang mga kasama ko sa PMTC. Junior ko si Major Gen. Juancho Sabban. Kasama ko sa Philippine shooting team si dating Col. Frank Gudani. Familiarizing lang at tagay muna tayo ng lambanog para maalaala mo.

  101. bitchevil - September 13, 2008 7:18 am

    Coel, read this…another proof of America’s interference. Who do you think ordered the Georgians to start it?

    WASHINGTON – A conservative Republican congressman is siding with Russia in its invasion of and brief war with Georgia, putting himself at odds with the Bush administration and lawmakers of both parties.

    “The Russians were right; we’re wrong,” Rep. Dana Rohrabacher said this week at a hearing of the House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee.

    “The Georgians started it; the Russians ended it,” he said.

    Rohrabacher claimed that unidentified intelligence sources had assured him that Georgia started the fighting that began Aug. 7 when Georgia’s military tried to re-establish control over its breakaway, pro-Russian province of South Ossetia.

  102. Ellen - September 13, 2008 1:08 pm

    So we can appreciate it more, I will put together Sulbatz’s story in a separate thread in minute. Thanks Sulbatz.

  103. Ellen - September 13, 2008 1:14 pm

    Renato, Akismet still spams your comments. It will take time before Akismet gets the message not to spam them.

  104. Ellen - September 13, 2008 1:15 pm

    Coel, Akismet also spammed some of your messages; thus the delay in the posting.

  105. Cocoy's Delight - September 13, 2008 1:40 pm

    Sulbatz story remind me about Gokusen.

  106. Cocoy's Delight - September 13, 2008 1:49 pm

    I’m glued on my TV monitor about a commuter train collided in the Chatsworth area of the San Fernando Valley, carrying 222 people collided head-on with a freight train during this Friday afternoon rush, killing at least 10 people, injuring dozens and trapping an unknown number of others in a passenger car crushed by its own engine.

    The Union Pacific freight train’s engine was also turned onto its side, with the rest of the train splayed out like an accordion behind it.

  107. Cocoy's Delight - September 13, 2008 2:00 pm

    15 person already confirmed dead and hundred people injured.Many are still trapped,they brought all the heavy equipment to cut the train into pieces to surgically removed all the person trapped and everyone out dead or alive,it’s a non-stop rescue.

  108. Renato Pacifico - September 14, 2008 1:52 am

    Ellen, thank you!!! I’m on a roll here …

  109. Renato Pacifico - September 14, 2008 1:58 am

    Give the Spratlys to Chinese of all we care. It’s only a sprinkling of a dot of an islands that have no use to us.

    Oil? You said oil? Watdafak!!!!

    Look, we have oil in Tanon Strait. Between Negros and Cebu. The concerned Filipinos don’t want exploratory drilling there because it destroys the enviroment and habitat of dolphins …

    So, if we don’t want to destroy the environment and habitats of marine life , give that good for nothing Spratleys …

    Filipinos would rather have our children die of hunger than destroying the habitats of dolphins and environment.

    Guess who gets to watch the dolphins swim by????

    The rich! The mestizos, mestizas, tisoys and tisays and intsik who are very very very very wealthy ….

    Ha!ha!ha!ha! Get real Filipinos!!!!

    We are offosite!!! Offosite-tionist. Anything good is bad … bad is good!!!

    Viva Filipino Offosite-tionist!!! Kill children save the dolphins. No to oil!!!! ha!ha!ha!

    Weird!!!!! talaga ang Filipinos!!!! weird … we’re sitting on millions and millions of dollars and we just let it slither away …. wheeeeewwwwww

  110. bitchevil - September 14, 2008 3:16 am

    What’s going on in America? There’s a commuter train that collided at the same time huge Hurricane in Texas. The US never runs out of calamities: tornadoes, hurricane, floods, earthquakes, fires, accidents, school shootings, etc. I hope America’s not being cursed for her bullying tactics against other nations especially Iraq.

  111. atty36252 - September 14, 2008 5:39 am

    Ang hindi alam ng mga naglalaglag sa Sabah claim (si Glue at si InFidel) ay may restrictive proviso ang grant of authority to the Government of the Philippines.

    The trust document states that the Sultan of Sulu authorizes the Government of the Philippines to pursue the Sultan’s claim. If the government makes any move to drop the claim, the authority given will ipso facto (Latin for by that fact) be terminated and the claim reverts back to the Sultan. In other words, walang authority ang gobyerno na ilaglag ang claim.

    That is the other point in the hoohah about the MOA-AD. The historical claim over Sabah, or even parts of Mindanao and Palawan belongs to the Sultan of Sulu, who has chosen to recognize the Philippine Constitution. In fact, the Sultan ran for senator, and is a registered voter of Jolo. The MILF has no claim over the rights of the Sultan of Sulu, dahil hindi naman sila naatasang maging representative ng Sultan.

    So the MOA-AD is really an agreement between two interlopers – a pekeng presidente, and non-reps of the Sultan.

  112. bitchevil - September 14, 2008 6:10 am

    Even as a layman, I think I understand what you mean, atty. The Bitch and her Evil camp can drop the claim but in the end, it’s still the rightful, legal owner who can resume the claim.

  113. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 14, 2008 6:23 am

    Give the Spratlys to Chinese of all we care. It’s only a sprinkling of a dot of an islands that have no use to us…

    Filipinos would rather have our children die of hunger than destroying the habitats of dolphins and environment.

    What ignorance!

    Spratlys alone has a confirmed 18 BILLION TONS of oil and gas reserves. More than Kuwait’s 13B MT which is currently the fourth biggest in the world. CIA Factbook says that the US geo surveys done decades ago in the area may even be a very conservative estimate.

    While you are at your PC, search the following companies: Burgundy, Miocene, Helios, Monte Oro, NorAsian, Forum Energy. These “Filipino-owned” companies are drilling for oil in Cagayan Sea (the San Antonio onshore well is now dry so the power plant was closed just recently) around Fuga Island (which Diosdado Macapagal partly owns), in North Palawan and Reed Bank(where Galoc fields produce oil and Malampaya produces gas), in Sulu Sea (that which Sulbatz says are operated by Brits and Aussies) and in the Cebu-Bohol-Leyte sealanes (which Renato claims to have oil reserves).

    So if you say the Tisoys are preventing the drilling of oil, I have bad news for you. You are terribly wrong. The Tisoys ARE DRILLING for oil. The first 3 companies are owned run by the same team of Rogelio Serafica, Monte Oro by the Kastilaloys Razon, Aboitiz, Ibazeta, Soriano and American Tisoy Dr. Walter Brown. And although Forum Energy/Basic Consolidated are owned by non-tisoy brothers Oscar and Joe De Venecia, they have invited the Tisoys in Monte Oro to join them. All these people are connected to Malacañang either as cronies or dummies.

    A little knowledge IS a dangerous thing.

  114. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 14, 2008 6:31 am

    If I’m negotiating with the MILF, I’d probably require them to re-annex Sabah first before I commit any ancestral domain for their administration. The MNLF and other non-Muslim groups would maybe even volunteer to join them. That would probably solidify the whole of Mindanao, ending several decades of conflict.

    And if the whole of Mindanao is petrified into one cohesive socio-economic-political group, then there’s no point in blocking their self-determination plans. We can then allow them complete Autonomy, a la Hong Kong or Macau.

  115. Valdemar - September 14, 2008 7:15 am

    To all the doubting Thomases asking for proofs here is like asking proofs on the reality of god.

    cocoy’s delight,
    yeah I was trying to recall who was that researcher. I think subaltz is a reincarnation.

    subaltz,

    pls go to the google earth and get me the coordinates of Maldanas. Who was your last C-6? Were you ever assigned at the Spratlys?

  116. etcetera - September 14, 2008 12:54 pm

    Bitchevil, you have to wait at least 25 years to get your proof of declassified informations, I hope you and elco are still alive by then…..hehehehheehhe

    Tongue, oo nga mahilig ako sa mga ganong istorya lalo na kung ang mga sources ng mga sumulat ay yong galing sa US congressional hearings at mga declassified informations. It’s interesting, its like playing a geopolitical chess game, but with deadly consequences. Thanks for the links.

    Rose, sorry, di ako familiar kay Ed Landsdale.

  117. gokusen - September 15, 2008 5:46 am

    Cocoy’s delight,

    though i don’t post comments i read ellenville’s but unfortunately for some security matters i will never post anything yet…

    to mr. eddfajardo,
    you said Gen.Juancho Saban is your junior, can you please asked him he knows it THE ARMY CAPTAIN who trained and recruited muslims to be trained as MILF early this year in Tanduh Bato, Luuk…those who were recruited akala nila eh nirerecruit sila bilang INTEGREES un pala bilang MILF…at wala kaalam-alam kami na niluluto na pala ang MOA-AD…tapos biglang kabig iiwanan nila sa ere ang MILF..lagi na lang bang gamitan..? wala na bang sawa na patuloy na panggagamit sa muslims…?
    last year, Father Bossi used for the Human Act at sa SONA, ngayon MOA-AD para sa SONA, isang taon MNLF pinalabas nilang nagsimula ng pang bobomba ang pinalabas nilang nagsimula ng gulo at hindi sila, ngayon ang MILF naman ….
    nahuhusgahan ng di tama dahil pinasasama at di pinapakita totoong istorya? di ang milf o mnlf ang unang nagagalaw kundi civilian. di nga alam ang balita dun, dahil walang radyo o tv man lang..ilang lugar ang inaabot lang ng signal ng network. pupunta ka pa sa gitna ng dagat para magka-signal o aakyat ka pa sa dating marine brigade dahil dun ka lang makakakuha ng signal ng smart…maling report maling target…marine versus army..ang marine para sa ganitong politician ang army ganun din. magkaka ibang report, pagkalaban ng pulitiko, abu sayyaf na, pero ang totoong abu sayyaf tao nila na uutusan nila sakaling gustong gumawa ng pera o ipapatay.

  118. grizzy - September 15, 2008 6:29 am

    There must be something in the Spratlys. Tama ka, Tongue. No pansin naman ang mga no-man islands na iyan noong araw kung bakit pati iyong China nakiki-angkin na rin, and the idiota even willing to give up Philippine islands dahil sa katangahan niya.

    Ngayon nga ang claim ng mga intsik, kanila raw ang lahat ng isla, etc. na nasa dagat ng China, north, west, and south. Swapang din, di ba?

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