Bishops call for GMA’s ouster

That was one great statement that the Jaro Archbishop Angel Lagdameo president of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines, released yesterday. He practically called for the ouster of Gloria Arroyo.

Not in 2010 but now.

In a statement he read flanked by four other progressive-thinking bishops namely, Lingayen Archbishop Oscar Cruz, Bataan Bishop Socrates Villegas, Masbate Bishop Joel Baylon, and Legazpi Bishop Emeritus Jose Sorra, Lagdameo said: “The time to start radical reforms is now. The time for moral regeneration is now. The time to conquer complacency, cynicism and apathy and to prove that we matured from our political disappointments is now. The time to prepare a new government is now. ”

In the open forum, Lagdameo said Gloria Arroyo is not capable of instituting reforms because he said, “I believe that the President is corrupt.”

The question and answer portion with Bishop Cruz was fascinating. Asked if Arroyo can lead the radical reforms, he replied, “Siempre hindi.”

Q: How about Vice President Noli de Castro?

Cruz: Walang ganyanan.

Q: How about Senate President Manny Villar?

Cruz: Walang ganyanan.

Q: How about House Speaker Prospero Nograles?

Cruz: Walang ganyanan.

Q: How about Chief Justice Reynato Puno?

Cruz: Pwede.

Q: How about AFP Chief Alexander Yano?

Cruz: Okay yun.

Q: Have you met with General Yano?

Cruz: Tama na. tama na.

It is about time that leaders of the Catholic Church whose consciences have not been numbed by Malacañang’s cash donations, do what they preach. They cannot be preaching “Thou shalt not steal” while closing their eyes on the thievery of Arroyo and her cohorts. Worse, accepting the fruits of Arroyo’s crimes.

Many Catholics have already given up on the CBCP when it comes to giving them guidance at this time when democratic institutions are degraded to protect Arroyo’s hold on power.

Lagdameo and the four bishops seriously doubt there will be an election in 2010 despite Arroyo’s pledge there would be one.

Cruz said their sources say “Elections in 2010 is a big dream. In short, elections in 2010 up to this time that I’m talking, is a moral impossibility.”

He asked the media to be on the alert when Congress opens on Nov. 10. “Charter change will be an open, public and well funded move in the Lower House. Whether it will triumph in the Senate is still debatable. But then I repeat, no more camouflage, no more double-talk, no more indirect insinuations. Charter change will be an honest-to-goodness agenda for Congress,” he said.

Arroyo’s Cha-cha, Cruz said, will be through a constitutional assembly. “The moment it passes the Lower House, and the moment it passes Senate and there is a plebiscite, then it is done, because the local governments are all at the command of Malacañang.”

Cruz said the charter change that Arroyo is crusading “is not for patriotic reasons.”

“It is intended principally, basically and fundamentally to extend the term of office of the incumbent. I hope to God and I pray very dearly that I am wrong but that is what I know,” he said.

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October 29, 2008 1:01 am  Tags: ,   Posted in: Governance, Malaya

79 Responses

  1. Diego K. Guerrero - October 29, 2008 1:12 am

    It must need a military component for a successful ouster of Gloria Arroyo. Bishops’ move is too late. They should be more active during the height of Hello Garci political scam. The military played a key role in the ouster of Marcos and Erap. Pulis Ni Pidal (PNP) is no match with AFP’s firepower and men.

  2. bitchevil - October 29, 2008 1:28 am

    What’s new? They always do it when December approaches. It’s to remind Malacanang about the white envelopes once again.

  3. chi - October 29, 2008 1:49 am

    To CBCP: Simulan na ninyo, at sasama ang madlang pipol!

    Inip na inip na ako, bakit ngayon lang ang panawagan ninyo? Wala ng dakdakan pa, tena na!

    Kapag binigyan ng aksyon ng CBCP ang panawagang ito, magkakaigi na kami ni Soc.

    Sinabi ko na dito months months back based sa aking mole sa tongress na tapos na ang usapan sa chacha, kumukuha na lang ng tiempo si Nognog at Pidal!

  4. SULBATZ - October 29, 2008 1:50 am

    Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!!

  5. chi - October 29, 2008 1:57 am

    sulbatz,

    Tena na at nang hindi na umabot pa ng 2010 and beyond!

  6. dandaw - October 29, 2008 2:03 am

    It’s about time CBCP gear up. We should pray that the Filipinos do not get water cannoned by the force of Pandak. Mahiya ka naman Arroyo.

  7. bitchevil - October 29, 2008 2:47 am

    Bolante’s asylum application was denied because he gave the wrong reason. He claimed his life was in danger in Manila because his enemies from the opposition are after him. As a government official with all the protection given to him, the US immigration court was not convinced. If I were Bolante, I would use a different argument saying it’s Malacanang and the government that would harm his return. In the US, he could reveal all he knew about the fertilizer scam. Since he’s against the government, his return would result in persecution…his life would be in danger. Such argument for asylum has been proven to be successful against Marcos. Marcos’ enemies were able to get asylum approval on that basis. Many already have green cards and even are US citizens now in Manila. An example is the Osmena family.

  8. hawaiianguy - October 29, 2008 3:32 am

    I believe the bishops’ call for GMA to go is too late now. They should have done it long time ago, such as at the height of the Garci scandal, or when the Lower House was forcing its way to amend the charter, or when Lozada realized it’s time to spill the beans.

    But there’s still a slim possibility, if GMA and her goons try to rescue Bolante, or prevent him from speaking out, ala Lozada style again. Maybe the people, who are now fed up of GMA’s promises and the rampant corruption that everybody notices, may do one last move. Depends on what’s going to happen next to rouse up people to anger.

  9. iwatcher 2010 - October 29, 2008 3:41 am

    salamat naman at naliwanagan ang isipan ng mga puno ng simbahan…my reliable contacts also confirmed the chacha 2009 and no election 2010 scenario, siguro matibay na ang basehan ng mga obispo sa nakakasukang plano ng malacanang mafia at arroyo corrupt-poration.

    kaibigang diego, the afp is not loyal to arroyo and they are only waiting for credible leaders to unite us, and with cbcp call for gloria ouster is enough to enlighten the patriotism among our brave soldiers. most ranking afp officers and junior officers who are in silent but known critics to gloria is now jubilant and ready to support the peoples clamor for new government.

    bitchdevil,the cbcp majority only compromise its stand on various issues maybe for a lot of reasons but maybe they know something that we dont know…and perhaps that the reason for a sudden ouster call and new government clamor.

    its our duty to support the ouster call and support the voice of the people…enough of malacanang mafia and arroyo corrupt-poration!

    We must also pray and ask our Lord God guidance and strength to overcome this crusade of reform and fight against corruption.

    mabuhay ang pilipino!

  10. chi - October 29, 2008 3:49 am

    HW,

    Kung ang panawagan ng CBCP ay hindi nila sasabayan o susundan ng aksyon, I doubt na meron diyang mangyayari. It’s never too late if they would act NOW!

  11. Isagani - October 29, 2008 3:52 am

    Nothing new with AB Cruz speculations, diba? We expect GMA to hang on to power by the tip of her fingernails. Kailangan putulin ang mga daliri. Talagang di puwedeng patalsikin sa salita lang.

    I bet that Bolante gets away from whatever charges are brought against him. That is one thing that attracts corrupt people to GMA. She protects them with impunity.

    Up to now, unfortunately, walang credible united opposition. Sorry na naman tayo.

  12. iwatcher 2010 - October 29, 2008 4:19 am

    not sorry…kaibigang isagani

    at this point in time the cbcp is not looking for opposition or any politicos, kailangan muna nating magsama-sama at magtulungan upang maiayos ang sistema ng gobyerno. at sa aking pananaw, they are pursuing SC Chief Justice to lead a transitionary take-over government, implement guidelines for immediate elections…but first they need the support of the citizenry for protest actions and to break the fortified walls of malacanang mafia and arroyo corrupt-poration.

    meron na silang basehan sa kanilang panawagan to break silence and clamor for new government, prior to their bold statement they have dialogues with different sectors of the society including other members of pidal mafia who are now experiencing conscience-check and enlightenment of the sad reality of corruption scandals under the glorias regime.

    we need their support, the cbcp call is for real after a thorough evaluation of facts and evidences…maging mapagmatyag tayo, makilahok at manindigan sa ating krusada laban sa katiwalian.

    we need to unite and act together, di pa huli ang lahat and kaibigan never say sorry coz its part of political process and our countrys transformation towards good governance will only be realized if we act as one and and the burning desire to change and reform our system is within our heart.

    november 2008 will be a sad month for gloria etal…

    mabuhay ka pilipino!

  13. rose - October 29, 2008 6:05 am

    Bolante has his Halloween Treat or Trick..yesterday.
    The cbcp issued theirs today.
    JdV biglang nawala..
    Ano ang susunod na palabas?
    si siraulo? brenda? it is a tragic comedy.
    ..I take the statement of cbcp with a grain of salt..

  14. Bobitz - October 29, 2008 6:36 am

    Diego I agree with you, that Bishops call is too late.
    ..,,,Ngayon pa eh gutom na gutom na ang mga tao, uunahin pa ba nilang sumali sa peoples power kaysa maghanap sila ng makakain nila . Dapat nuon pa yan , at bukod diyan , halos lahat ng nakapwesto sa Gobyerno ay kaalyado ni GMA (magnanakaw)

  15. Valdemar - October 29, 2008 6:52 am

    Nakikialam na naman ang mga bishop upang sabihin may kapangyarihan ang mga dasal nila sa kangkungan. Baka may natunugan na confession.

  16. martina - October 29, 2008 7:44 am

    Sangayon ako sa inyo, too late na itong mga CBCP. Isa pa, iyong si Lagdameo parang walang conviction sa mga sinasabi niya. Hindi niya ako na convince o naimpress, baka nga nangangalampag lang para sa brown (mas malaki sa white) envelopes, time to replenish the contents.

  17. pranning - October 29, 2008 7:54 am

    29 October 2008

    As I said in the previous blog topic, it smells fishy, why only now, why call for it only now???? I still have reservations with the CBCP.

    But as they say, it’s better late than never.

    It still remians to be seen.

    AS as said before and I repeat, ALL ELECTIVE AND APPOINTIVE OFFICIALS MUST RESIGN, for a snap election. No to noli decastro to replace the evil bitch.

    THE ENVELOPE PLEASE…….. hehehehehehe…..

    prans

  18. bitchevil - October 29, 2008 8:04 am

    The reason why we have been getting negative reaction about these Bishops’ recent call for GMA’s ouster is because they no longer have any credibility. Why don’t they go out there in the streets and lead the people?

  19. hawaiianguy - October 29, 2008 8:09 am

    Chi, I agree. The bishops also lack credibility, but if they match their words with actions, baka pwede pa matanggal yung aleng ayaw umalis sa trono.
    (Lest I be misunderstood, I am for Bishop Cruz and the others in that forum. They have made known their stand – against a corrupt leader that keeps on corrupting many others, including some bishops.)

    Malaya: “They (bishops) call for the truth? They call for moral regeneration? Let them start walking the talk.”

  20. SumpPit - October 29, 2008 8:20 am

    There could have been 7 or so bishops more in the conference but for some reasons were not able to come.

  21. chi - October 29, 2008 8:21 am

    That’s right, HW. The CBCP should start walking the talk at this very minute lest they be accused of just making another noise.

  22. bitchevil - October 29, 2008 8:27 am

    SumpPit, the other seven Bishops received their envelopes, that’s why.

  23. Golberg - October 29, 2008 9:30 am

    Ngayon lang!!!
    Dapat noong pang 2001 o di kaya ay noong malaman ng sambayang Pilipino na merong nangyaring dayaan noong 2004 elections. Pambihira talagang mga Obispo ito! Di mo malaman kung natutulog sa pansitan o sadyang natulog sa pansitan.
    Kung gaano kagulo ang simbahan sa ngayon at ang pulitika dito sa Pinas ganun din kagulo ang mga utak.
    Ngayon lang nagtawag ng bagong gobyerno!?
    Ilang taon ng peke ang gobyerno!? My goodness naman!
    Parang mga (PNP) Palpak na Pulis. Kung kailan tapos na ang barilan o di kaya yung hold-up, doon lang dumating! Kadugay!
    Natawa na lang ako sa pahayag ng mga ito kahapon ng gabi.
    Di naman sila tinuruan sa mga seminaryo kung paano maging estupido, e mas pinili pa ang maging estupido.

  24. florry - October 29, 2008 9:57 am

    The bishops took a very long while to wake up from the sleep of the awake; and to see and hear what even the blind and deaf can feel. Why it came so sudden? Is this a rude awakening among them?

    Bishop Cruz is okay. He is always and very consistent in his position. Among his colleagues he was almost the only one left standing in his crusade against the evil government of Gloria. As to the others, I don’t know where they are coming from but if they really mean and willing to take the lead, then by all means, bring it on and let the fight begin.

  25. myrna - October 29, 2008 9:57 am

    ellen, in fairness and fyi sa ibang kasamahan natin dito sa blog, i know personally one of the bishops you mentioned, and i guarantee you that he has a firm stand for a moral government. he had been fighting all along this line ever since, ang problema nga lang, outnumbered siya. he and cruz may just be a voice in the wilderness sa cbcp, but now that lagdameo had taken a stand publicly by issuing the aforesaid statement, sana naman, magkaisa na ang mga tao, to prevent the dodgy plan and intentions of gloria and her cohorts.

    i know, as far as credibility is concerned, talagang hirap ang cbcp (in its totality) na itayo pa rin ang watawat :), but given that there are these, as you say, progressive-thinking, bishops who made this stand now, is not worth a try to just solidify and push through with ousting gloria? enough is enough!!!

    i just also hope that socrates villegas, having been instrumental in the erosion of the credibility in the government and in the bishops, would try to redeem himself…this time, for good, at walang envelope, nor medy to boot!!!

    asan si rosales sa lahat ng ito???

  26. myrna - October 29, 2008 9:58 am

    is NOW worth a try, is should say. nadulas yung pagtipa ng keyboard hehehhe.

  27. The Equalizer - October 29, 2008 11:07 am

    “Morality is the bedrock of public service. And this must start by the example set by leadership at the highest levels.I firmly believe that my example is INTEGRITY”Gloria Arroyo

  28. myrna - October 29, 2008 11:35 am

    ang kapal talaga ni gloria. kulang na lang sabihin na anghel siya!

  29. syria - October 29, 2008 11:45 am

    Correction for the above:

    “Morality is the bedrock of public service. And this must start by the example set by leadership at the highest levels. I firmly believe that my example is inteGREEDY” Gloria Arroyo.

  30. rose - October 29, 2008 12:16 pm

    Hanggang dadat lang ang mga iyon..I doubt if they will do anything…Malapit na ang pasko..sa Oct. 31 it is simply treat or trick!
    Gloria, an angel..tama–she is the fallen angel.

  31. norim - October 29, 2008 12:18 pm

    Pareng Cocoy, Hawaiian Guy: Pambihira naman, ngayon pa namang nakakuha na ako ng dual citizenship at puede na uling bumoto, tapos baka wala naman palang halalan sa 2010.

  32. Ellen - October 29, 2008 12:56 pm

    A Call for Action

    The undersigned members of Philippine Military Academy Class of 1955 view with serious concern the prevailing behavior quality of our alumni in the military and police services. Several recent unfortunate incidents assailing the integrity of some PMA alumni focus attention on the moral condition in the armed services. These episodes cast doubts on the efficacy and content of the training we got from our Alma Mater. Were we trained to quibble and dissemble and distort the truth?
    Our training as cadets in PMA constantly hammered in us the principle of personal moral accountability. The military culture we were immersed in is supposed to imbue in us as military professionals a strict Code of Honor. As military officers we are not expected to be impeccably perfect in our personal and moral lives, but we are demanded to be responsible for all our actions. When caught in violation of anything, whether insubstantial or enormous, we are indoctrinated to admit guilt and be prepared to accept appropriate punishment. Such a moral requirement is expected to inhibit misbehavior on our part since wrongdoing will always be exposed. Our indoctrination is intended to infuse our military profession with honor and thereby merit the trust of the people we serve and protect. Although we are to be trustworthy in the military, this is more to be expected from those in the police forces because they are obligated to seek and uphold the truth.
    We, therefore, call on our comrades and co-alumni in whatever armed service they belong to be militant in cleansing ourselves and bring back to our ranks those who stray from our Code of Honor. We ought not to accord any honor to those who bring discredit to our military service. Even as our society is perceived to be sinking in corruption and moral decay, we still hope that with discipline and rejuvenated moral strength, the military – especially the alumni corps of the Philippine Military Academy – can still regain the trust, confidence and respect of our disillusioned and demoralized people and lead them to national moral recovery.

    (Sgd) SALVADOR M. MISON
    Lieutenant General, AFP (Ret.)
    Class ’55 President

    (Sgd) R. A. SOLINA
    Colonel, PA (Ret)
    Class ’55 Secretary

  33. SumpPit - October 29, 2008 1:06 pm

    Merong nagsasalita dati sa Malacanan na “di natin bibitawan ito ng walang laban…”

    Kaya ang Charter Change ay probable. Last card would be a Martial Rule.

  34. Ellen - October 29, 2008 1:28 pm

    Mukhang nabalitaan ko rin yun, SumpPit. Dating heneral din yun.

  35. Ellen - October 29, 2008 2:02 pm

    Adel Tamano, UNO Spokesman said:

    “While we appreciate the condemnation of President Arroyo, mere condemnation of the Arroyo administration’s corruption is not enough to effect the changes needed by our country.”

  36. iwatcher 2010 - October 29, 2008 2:13 pm

    the call for gloria resign is now inevitable…sana huwag mangyari ang kaguluhan dahil hati ang military sa isyu ng gloria resign but majority still symphatize with gen. miranda and group at ang tanging kakampi ni gloria ang pnp.

    ilang beses na nilinlang ni gloria ang afp sa mga pangakong napako lalo na sa sistema ng promotion, corruption in the military at modernization program at hindi naman naging epektibo ang panunuhol ng malacanang mafia at arroyo corrupt-poration sa mga senior at junior officers.

    ang kinababahala ko ang animoy ulol na si asperon at norberto gonzales na gagawin ang lahat to save their queen. what a stupid loyalty! even in the remote areas, abalang abala ang mga tongressmen at gma alipores to win public opinion wherein they provide dole-outs and infra projects to lessen the impact of a new gloria resign clamor.

    alam nila ang nangyayaring situwasyon at may nakahandang worst scenario plan courtesy of our braindead sec. norberto gonzales and war mongerer assperon.

    we must now act and unite together and pray for help and guidance to enlighten these people.

    abangan ang mga susunod na araw for a sudden turn of events, and this will be a tragic november for malacanang mafia and arroyo corrupt-poration.

    sa ngayon pa lang ay panay miting na ng grupo ni gloria to create a crisis scenario and divert the new call for her resignation. ang kasaysayan lamang ang magsasabi ng magaganap sa kapalaran ng palalo at abusadong pamunuan ni gma.

    mabuhay ka pilipino!

  37. ocayvalle - October 29, 2008 2:16 pm

    philippines is like a sick human being. although its sickness is curable,what we are administiring is and expired medicine..matagal na po sanang nagamot iyan..
    but all those concern, like the cbcp,c(evil)ivil society and some politicians, olds like(FVR,JDV,and others) and young ones are all for GMA. GMA is an expired medicine..
    wala na siyang pag asa na maka gamot pa. either tanggalin na siya upang maka ahon na tayo..GMA`s corruption is so serious that as long as she is there pretending to be a leader, nothing will happen..na kaka hawa na ang corruption niya..i hope that with this development now transforming in our country..the light at the end of the tunnel has come..we laready have learned our lesson`s. i hope that alll this evil minions of GMA will all be put behind bar so that it can not pass on this corruption virus she had contaminated our country..!!

  38. SULBATZ - October 29, 2008 2:33 pm

    Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!!!

  39. Golberg - October 29, 2008 3:17 pm

    Bakit Gloria resign?!

    Hindi naman talaga halal ng taumbayan yang kumag na iyan di ba?

  40. syria - October 29, 2008 3:51 pm

    On this issue, I support the CBCP’s fight for corruption. However, I am not comfortable with their idea of new government.

    The magnitude of corruption in our country is immeasurable it resulted to deaths, famine, illiteracies, crimes, homelessness, unemployment, suicides, stress, ……. and even the war in Mindanao.

    CBCP’s idea of a new government is not explicitly stated. If what they meant is federalism, then they must be supporting the present government’s plan of perpetuity.
    The Lower House is rushing cha-cha for federalism and convincing everybody by citing only its advantages. What they are not informing us are the mechanics, requirements, and monies needed to for federalism to succeed.

  41. SumpPit - October 29, 2008 4:45 pm

    Slightly Off-topic…

    bitchevil:

    I’m not sure whether you were able to read my response to your question re “why i hate the catholic church”… here’s an addendum to it.

    ‘hope you’ll find it useful.

    I don’t think I just keep it to myself. In fact, I encourage everyone to share it to as many as possible.

    No matter what happens here, politically, that will surely set you free.

  42. Tedanz - October 29, 2008 5:49 pm

    Nakapuwesto na naman sila Razon at Lomibao. Mga ex-General ito, mga ex-PNP chief at mga PMA’yer e di mga magnanakaw o mga bayarin din ang mga ito. Anong klaseng mga tao ang mga nagpapalakad sa ating Gobyerno puro ganid at sakim. Kakapal pa ang mukha.
    Huwag na natin pintasan kung anong sinabi ng mga Obispo. Gumawa na tayo ng hakbang para itong Pekeng Gobyernong ito ay mapalitan na bago mahuli ang lahat.

  43. Valdemar - October 29, 2008 7:04 pm

    Sa mga nagpapanggap na malilinis sa kapare-an at ka-PMA-ian at ayaw nila ang kanilang kalalagyan dahil pangit ang gawa ng mga kalahi, dapat umalis sila jan. Resign! Wag na daldal pa.

  44. SumpPit - October 29, 2008 7:04 pm

    Ang mga Migrante raw ang solusyon sa bumabagsak na krisis pang-ekonomiya, sabi ni Bankimoon kanina.

    And that confirms that the UN is indeed an instrument in the service of the Financial Oligarchs.

    Instead of saying that we must do all we can to defeat migrations thru better economic policies, he effectively encourages the export of cheap labor akin to a modern form of Slavery.

    UN does not serve the people of any country but the Few.

  45. SumpPit - October 29, 2008 7:19 pm

    Jokejoke is suppose to be a ranking member of Rotary International, a minigroup of Financial Oligarchs.

    And in every rotunda and waiting shade, they love to peddle there civic-mindedness and concern for the welfare of society, to which they would subject themselves to the 4-way test.

    The 4-Way Test

    “Of the things we think, say or do:

    Is it the TRUTH?

    Is it FAIR to all concerned?

    Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS?

    Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned?”

    (Adopted by Rotary in 1943, created in 1932 by Rotarian Herbert J. Taylor, who later served as RI President. )
    __________________________________________________________

    But why are they so silent about Jokejoke’s action?

    Is it the TRUTH, FAIR, BENEFICIAL?

    Will his actions build GOODWILL?

    Maybe, yes. But not to us. He will build GOODWILL to the Devil & the Bitch.

  46. Chabeli - October 29, 2008 7:39 pm

    Yes, Gloria resign !!! Should there be bloodshed to oust her, it is because that is what Gloria wants. She has a choice: either to kill her fellow Filipino or not.

  47. SumpPit - October 29, 2008 7:40 pm

    Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand; it never has and it never will.

    – Frederick Douglass

  48. chi - October 29, 2008 7:43 pm

    “di natin bibitiwan ito ng walang laban”

    Mawawalan kasi sila ng palabigasan.

  49. SumpPit - October 29, 2008 7:43 pm

    Man by nature is inherently good; they, who are doing Evil, ceased to exist as Human Beings, no more.

    They must be, by all means, sent back to where they came from – Hell.

    For years, we have tried doing that by non-aggressive means,
    yet they always persist.

    It is high time now that we realize that in order to eliminate Evil for good, Good Men, we are, must be willing to become Evil ourselves for a day.

    Afterwhich, we can always return to being Good, as we have always been.

    This is the only way, the only option left undone.”

  50. chi - October 29, 2008 7:46 pm

    She has a choice: either to kill her fellow Filipino or not. -Chabeli

    She has long made the choice of killing pinoys.

  51. chi - October 29, 2008 7:51 pm

    SumpPit,

    I go with ‘eliminate the few for the good of the many’.

  52. SumpPit - October 29, 2008 8:00 pm

    Tama ‘yan, Chi.

    Kunti lang sila. Ang gobyerno sa kasalukuyan ay nagserbisyo lang sa interes nila.

    Kaya kung umpisahan ng mga Obispo na yan ang pag bitbit ng itak papuntang Malacanan, sasama na ako.

    Tama na ang papicture sa kalsada. Kung anu-anong bandira winawagayway, parang laro lang.

    Dapat seryosong rebolusyon, na decisive ang paraan at maliwanag ang layunin.

  53. chi - October 29, 2008 8:09 pm

    “…decisive ang paraan at maliwanag ang layunin.” Sama ako!

  54. norpil - October 29, 2008 8:15 pm

    hindi mag re resign iyan at hindi rin pahuhuli ng buhay.

  55. SumpPit - October 29, 2008 8:25 pm

    … then Civil War is inevitable.

  56. chi - October 29, 2008 8:38 pm

    norpil,

    we will see kung takot nga sa dugo ang pinoy gaya ng sabi mo.

  57. rose - October 29, 2008 8:51 pm

    CBCP issued a statement of their stand;
    PMA Class’55 has spoken too.
    Is that all there is? talk? why not walk the talk and let us all together be one..once again if ever there was once.

  58. rose - October 29, 2008 9:02 pm

    To the PMAers who once upon a time took an oath to serve God and Country..where were you when Sen. Trillanes wanted to talk with GMA? where were you when he was jailed and until now in jail? were you there when he walked to Peninsula hotel? To borrow these words from a song…and addressed to PMAers..”were you there when they took them (Gen. Lim, Miranda, Trillanes, the 28 of them) to jail? were you there when they took them to the court? It surely caused us all to tremble, tremble, tremble..were you there when they brought and took our cause? Now will you be there when they take the walk..for a gov’t that will serve the country?

  59. rose - October 29, 2008 9:08 pm

    GMA will not resign! But she has another choice…she can hang herself, or kill herself..do a suicide act and that would be her legacy…She can do this by before Nov. 2…so we can pray for her at all souls day!
    …what a way to start a day for me…ang aga aga pa! I will go back to sleep.

  60. chi - October 29, 2008 9:31 pm

    Galit si Rose, heheh!

    Yup, as SumpPit said: “…decisive ang paraan at maliwanag ang layunin.”

    Nasaan ang CBCP (maliban kay Bishop Iniguez) ng insidente sa Pen? A, si Asspweron nga pala ang nasa front line ni Gloria, hindi sila sasantuhin. Ngayon ay love yata sila ni Yano ng konti.

  61. bitchevil - October 29, 2008 9:47 pm

    Expect another group of pro-Malacanang Bishops coming out to declare they don’t share their colleagues opinion in changing the government.

  62. rose - October 29, 2008 9:49 pm

    Chi: nakakainis kasi…both the CBCP and a number of PMAers stink to high heavens!..they are supposed to be decisive leaders..but
    ang sabi nga Rip Van Winkle slept for 20 years?
    ..hintay ka muna saan si Mike Velarde? si Villanueva? at ang iba pang leaders? tulog? ang sarap seguro ng tulog nila ..malamnbot kaya ang unan na puno ng pera? si Brenda nawala rin..
    it’s Now or Never..ang sabi nga..anhin pa ang damo kung patay na ang kabayo? pero kung baboy..isugba at ang laman tadtarin at kawing dinuguan..ang kidney ni siraulo..tadtarin at kawing kidney beans and throw both or burn both kasi lason…

  63. Ellen - October 29, 2008 10:00 pm

    Inquirer stories:

    Yano: AFP ignoring “radical reform” call

    Donald Dee says he scolded Archbishop Lagdameo

  64. victor - October 29, 2008 10:11 pm

    GMA let go her Pit Bull in Secretary Gonzalez who resorted to ad homimen in his press release..btw pit bull is a prohibited breed in Ontario and that law was upheld by the court in the challenge and they last breeds will be grandfathered..hope the GMA pitbull will also be grandfathered.

  65. bitchevil - October 29, 2008 10:12 pm

    This is the time when we miss the late Cardinal Sin so much…the architect of two Edsas. Manila Cardinal Rosales whose niece is with Malacanang continues to keep silent. After the Bishops’ Press Conference, what’s next? Nothing. President Erap said he has forgiven the Bishops for conspiring in his ouster. However, he said the Bishops must apologize to millions of people who elected him. The CBCP and Bishops refused to endorse the last three impeachment. They never called for GMA’s ouster. Why should people now believe them?

  66. bitchevil - October 29, 2008 10:20 pm

    Rose, don’t look for Mike Velarde. He’s busy checking his properties and bank accounts. Eddie Villanueva? He cares about his son more. The younger Eddie who’s a Congressman has not sponsored any Bill in Congress yet since becoming a Congressman years ago. What about INC’s Manalo? At least INC is consistent. INC continues to remain silent.

  67. chi - October 29, 2008 10:27 pm

    Oopppss…hindi pala love kahit konti ni Yano ang grupo ni Bishop Lagdameo. Balik ako sa walang yagbols si Yano! Malapit na siyang magretiro, dapat lang na mabait siya sa kanyang pekeng presidente!

    Pinagalitan ni Donald Duck Dee si Bishop Lagdameo. Itapon sa basura ng simbahan ang gagong businessman na yan!

  68. chi - October 29, 2008 10:32 pm

    Napakalaki yata ang pakinabang ni Donald duck kay korap Gloria at nasa front line siya ng pagtatanggol sa impakta!

    Gising Pinoy! Marami tayong kalaban na mga ungas!

  69. Chabeli - October 30, 2008 12:23 am

    Gloria has taken the Filipinos, once again, to this point of brinkmanship. However, should blood be shed because it is the only way to cleanse the Philippines from evil & from all that is ugly, then, that could be the inevitable.

    God bless the Philippines.

  70. Chabeli - October 30, 2008 12:25 am

    “Donald Dee says he scolded Archbishop Lagdameo”

    If I may ask, in what capacity does this has-been Donald Dee have to scold an Archbishop ???

  71. Chabeli - October 30, 2008 12:26 am

    Side comments from lunatics are strategies to divert our attention.

  72. men0k - October 30, 2008 12:29 am

    The way magsalita si Donald Dee sa isang Archbishop is it seems parang kapantay nya lang ung taong kausap nya at hindi taong-simbahan.. parang nagsalita sa anak na lagi nya lang binibigyan ng ‘allowance’ kaya pwede nyang pagalitan ng ganun-ganun.. sandali, hindi kaya binibigyan nya nga ng allowance courtesy of PCCI?…

  73. bitchevil - October 30, 2008 2:08 am

    Those who were born in the 60s and 70s cannot forget one Dewey Dee who ripped of the banks of millions and then escaped the country. He’s reportedly now living in Canada. Dewey is the older brother of this Donald Dee.

  74. Valdemar - October 30, 2008 6:26 am

    Mali ang nakasabit, next time punta si GMA sa US, palitan si Palin.

  75. chi - October 30, 2008 7:09 am

    Ha!ha!ha!

  76. jose miguel - October 30, 2008 8:06 am

    To chi, Chabeli and menOk, this could be the reason for the arrogance of a close GMA supporter, Donald Dee:

    O. D. Corpus stated that a Spanish author Joaquin Martinez de Zuñega was already warning just after 1801 about Chinese acquisition of all the lands of the natives. By the 1880s, great number of Filipinos were driven out of business by the Chinese.(1)(2)

    In 1896, a group of Filipino merchants and manufacturers made a report on how the Chinese were excessively exploiting our soil, corrupting our population and draining our resources and the threat of damage to us “within a few years”. The report recommended to the government of Spain security measures such as, suspension of immigration and controlling activities, of the Chinese in the Philippines.(3)

    It would have been our next logical step after we became an independent nation in 1898. Unfortunately, the military might of the Americans intervened by their invasion in 1899. So the focus of our efforts against the Chinese invasion was suspended and turned towards resisting the American invasion.

    It was during the American occupation that a Chinese economic-legal unit, the Chinese Chamber of Commerce was activated in the Philippines. It was tasked to block any of our legislative moves that would be in conflict to their interests and secure passage of those which they considered friendly to them.(4)

    By 1924, many thousands of Chinese have already infiltrated thru the long stretches of our seacoast or ports, “in the thickness of the night”. They subverted us Filipinos who attempted to stop them thru bribery.(5)(6)

    Around November of 1924, we tried to setup a legal channel of check points for identifying and assessing foreigners entering our country as part of our defense system of checking further foreign infiltration.(7)

    However, while our legal check points where still in the setting up stage, the Americans, with their military might providing cover to the Chinese, already dismantled them.(8)

    In 1927, we attempted again to set up legal check points to check continous foreign infiltration.(9)

    Immediately, the Chinese who are under the protective cover of the military might of the Americans blocked our attempt again.(10)

    Our dragging experience of loss of our check points to the Chinese, made us ponder in 1924 and in 1928, the progressive impotence of all layers (physical, political, economic, legal, etc.) of our security system. It´s impotence to check any foreign threat to the integrity of our own flesh and blood, will logically progress for as long as Americans have any form of control over us.(11)(12)

    We tried strategies based on our present condition to gain control as much area of our nation as we could against the foreigners. The start of our series of manoeuvres thru legal operations with the Retail Trade Nationalization Law in 1954 however, was out-manoeuvred by the Chinese. After we implemented this law, some 8700 of the 10,000 Chinese who rushed to get hold of certificate of Filipino citizenship papers after 1946, did so after 1954. We Filipinos actually overrun previously Chinese-controlled areas the strategic value of which where at most, of low significance. Thus in paper, the number of Chinese registered as engaged in the retail trade was reduced and the number of Filipinos engaged in the same business was increased. In reality however, there was no physical difference. The difference was only in paper.(13)(14)(15)

  77. marnat22 - October 30, 2008 12:05 pm

    gma is evil she does not hear the voice of the people its better late than never to call the ouster of this witch fake prresident draining the wealth of the nation…..

  78. Chabeli - October 31, 2008 2:00 am

    Thank you, Jose Miguel. Your comments are interesting.

  79. bitchevil - October 31, 2008 10:13 am

    The Bishops would once again save the Queen…just like in a Chess game.

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