The Webster dictionary defines “seditious” as “tending to cause discontent among the people; fostering the spirit of rebellion.”
I think Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez was barking up the wrong tree when he said that the pronouncements of Jaro Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, president of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines ; Lingayen Archbishop Oscar Cruz;Bataan Bishop Socrates Villegas; Masbate Bishop Joel Baylon, and Legazpi Bishop Emeritus Jose Sorra at a press conference last Tuesday were “seditious.”
I checked again what the five bishops said. Their statements were mostly on graft and corruption which they said were the “biggest culprit and major cause of the our nation’s poverty and hunger.”
Asked if they think Gloria Arroyo is corrupt, Archbishop Cruz did not hesitate to say, “Yes, because the incumbent Malacanang occupant has received not long ago the very distinguished award, never have been given before in Philippine history, as the most corrupt President.”
Cruz further said, “To say that the Malacanang occupant is but the follower of corruption and not a leader of corruption is asking too much. It will take somebody from the moon to believe that the head of corruption is down below and not from above.”
Since “seditious” means “tending to cause discontent among the people or fostering the spirit of rebellion.”, what causes people to be enraged, the corrupt practices or the criticism of the corruption?
The impeachment complaint filed by citizens concerned of the the country’s degradation enumerates the documented crimes of the Arroyo against the Filipino people. Here’s the short list
1.The $329 million deal with the Chinese firm, ZTE Corp to establish a national broadband network;
2. The sale of the country’s gold reserve in Mt. Diwalwal to ZTE Corp. in an agreement described by the complainants as “grossly disadvantageous to the country’s interests”;
3. Entering into the Northrail Project without the approval of the Monetary Board and which failed to give preference to Filipino labor and investment;
4. Distribution of bribe money to congressmen last year, which she supposedly authorized, to speed up the referral of the impeachment complaint filed against her last year by lawyer Roel Pulido to prevent the filing of a genuine complaint;
5.The diversion of P3.3 billion intended for farmers, P728 million of which were supposed to be spent for fertilizer, to the campaign kitty of Arroyo in the 2004 elections;
6.Similar to the fertilizer scam is the illegal and improper use of the P5 billion loan obtained by the Quedan Rural Credit Guarantee Corp. to fund her 2004 election campaign.
7.Cheating in the 2004 elections.
It’s good that former Agriculture Secretary Jocelyn “Joc-Joc” Bolante is back. He has a lot of explaining to do on the P3.3 billion supposedly for agriculture that were released just a few weeks before the 2004 elections and the P5 billion unaccounted Quedancor funds.
Every impeachment complaint filed against Arroyo the past three years includes cheating in the 2004 elections that is referred by Bishop Cruz the “original sin” because all of the other crimes cited in the impeachment complaint were committed to either cover up or pay back her accomplices in the rigging of the 2004 election results. The NBN/ZTE deal, for example. Why was a retiring Comelec official into a telecommunication project? Simple. Abalos gave her the presidency that the Filipino people denied her in 2004. He had to be rewarded for that.
Arroyo has yet to explain why she said “I am sorry” when the “Hello Garci” tapes surfaced in June 2005. In that tape, she was heard talking to Comelec Commissioner Virgilio Garcillano about tampering the election results in the Autonomous Region for Muslim Mindanao.
In this year’s complaint, lawyer Harry Roque has included the testimonies of some members of the Special Action Forces of the Philippine National Police who participated in the switching of election returns at the Batasan Pambansa storage room.
Now, what could be more seditious than thwarting the will of the people?
Gonzalez was so riled up with the statement of the five bishops saying that “The time to start radical reforms is now. ..The time to prepare a new government is now. ”
Arroyo was never elected by the people. Every day of her illegitimate presidency is sedition at its highest form.
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Sedition or any other legal offense depends on who’s talking and who’s being charged. There’s always a double standard of policy in this evil government. Between the five Bishops and journalists, the latter have more rights to express their views given their profession. And yet, why were journalists like Ellen easily got charged for libel and even perceived seditious comments? The Bishops should be more liable because there’s a clear separation between the church and state. If sedition charge should be seriously applied, then the late Cardinal Sin was guilty of this many times.
The United States had a Sedition Act which was in effect from 1798 to 1801. It was not challenged in the Supreme Court, because the power of judicial review was only established in the case of Marbury v. Madison in 1803.
In New York times v. Sullivan, however, the US Supreme Court, by a unanimous vote, stated that:
“Although the Sedition Act was never tested in this Court, the attack upon its validity has carried the day in the court of history. Fines levied in its prosecution were repaid by Act of Congress on the ground that it was unconstitutional. See, e.g., Act of July 4, 1840, c. 45, 6 Stat. 802, accompanied by H.R.Rep. No. 86, 26th Cong., 1st Sess. (1840).
Calhoun, reporting to the Senate on February 4, 1836, assumed that its invalidity was a matter “which no one now doubts.” Report with Senate bill No. 122, 24th Cong., 1st Sess., p. 3.
Jefferson, as President, pardoned those who had been convicted and sentenced under the Act and remitted their fines, stating:
“I discharged every person under punishment or prosecution under the sedition law because I considered, and now consider, that law to be a nullity, as absolute and as palpable as if Congress had ordered us to fall down and worship a golden image.”
So both the US President and Congress considered Sedition laws as unconstitutional. That is why there was no need for the Supreme Court to step in.
Ganyan ka tanda yang concept na yan, matanda pa sa lolo ni siRaulo. Gasgas na ang concepto sedition, kung ihahanay sa freedom of speech. Gasgas na rin anyway, ang utak ni Raul.
Mainit naman sa Pilipinas, bakit tulog mantika ang mga tao? Walang maang-aapi kung walang papa-api. Walang ninakawan kung walang magpapanakaw.
DoJ chief Gonzalez is like a barking dog seldom bites. If he has strong evidence against the bishops, then, sue them in court. Then Iloilo Rep. Raul Gonzalez was a recipient of Joc-Joc Bolante’s over-priced liquid fertilizer. Scam is the trademark of the Arroyo bogus presidency. In reality, there’s no separation between the church and the state in the Philippines. They have the same constituency. They are involved in government affairs like Pampanga Governor Rev. Fr. Panlillo and some party list representatives belong to religious group (El Shaddai’s Buhay and Jesus Movement’s CIBAC).
So much talks about separation of church and state; yet, even in the US where the Constitution we adapted, there continues to have the church’s influence over the state and politics. The church keeps meddling for centuries. But nothing compares to the Philippines where the meddling of the church is more evident. For why do El Shaddai, JIL and Catholic Church have representatives in Congress? Of course to protect the interest of the religious groups and church members not to mention the business interest. El Shaddai has Bro. Mike’s son in the Congress so is Bro. Eddie Villanueva’s son Joel. Even the former El Shaddai spokesman Mel Robles is the Chief of MRT.
Joc Joc Bolante:The Rotary 4-way Test or Omerta?
Will Joc Joc Bolante Bolante,a prominent Rotarian AND the architect of the Great Fertilizer Scam pass the Four Way “Rotary Test” of Truth
Or will Joc-Joc Bolante observe the time-honored Omerta code of silence of the Pidal Clan to protect Jose Pidal,his bosom buddy?
Sedition is a term of law which refers to covert conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.
Because sedition is typically considered a subversive act, the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where those legal codes have a traceable history, there is also a record of the change of definition for what constituted sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within study of persecution.
The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).
Put simply, sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign or state and has to do with giving aid to enemies or levying war. Sedition is more about encouraging the people to rebel, where treason is actually betraying the country. Sedition laws somewhat equate to Terrorism and Public Order laws.
Sedition. Sedate Raul Gozales with a toxic substance or mercy kill him na lang!
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tnx, atty…ang ganda ng lesson mo ngayon.
Ano iyong toxic substance? Baka naka-inom ng liquid fertilizer ni Joc-Joc kaya may sayad sa ulo.
nice one atty36252…
ang alam lang ng media yung mga eskandalo at anomalyang nabuking pero higit na marami ang naitatago pa at malulula ang tao kapag nalaman ang buong katotohanan kung paano na halos ibinenta ng malacanang mafia at arroyo corrupt-poration ang bansang pilipinas sa pamamagitan ng mga joint agreement, congressional lobbying to gain US support for constitutional amendments, trade facts na halos disadvantage ang bansang pilipinas.
ang smuggling lamang na halos pumapatay sa negosyo sa ating bansa at walang kontrol na naipapasok ang lahat halos ng produkto, makinarya, at iba pang kalakal na kontrolado lamang ng kingpin pidal and arroyo bros.
ang mining industry ay walang habas na sinasamantala ng mga mining operations mula sa ibat-ibang bansa from palawan to nueva vizcaya.
ang mga kontrata sa gobyerno na ibinibigay lamang sa mga taong kabilang sa inner circle ng malacanang mafia at arroyo corrupt-poration.
ang mga trade agreements na kung saan malaki ang commission ng mga taong kasama at kabilang sa nagsulong.
ang mga infrastructure and priority projects na halos lahat ay overpricing, isama mo na ang modernization kuno ng mga ahensiya ng gobyerno na halos commission at tongpats at kasali mga miyembro ng malacanang mafia at arroyo corrupt-poration.
ang mga loyalty bonus sa mga pnp at afp officials pati na rin mga loyal cabinet members, ginagawa ba ng ombudsman at anti-corruption task force ni gloria ang lifestyle checks? kasi malulula ka sa mga kayamanan ng mga taong ito.
ang procurement ng mga surveillance equipment at wire tapping device na special request ni sec. norberto gonzales to monitor the enemy of the state?
ang mga special ops at media brigade ni gloria na kung saan halos bilyones ang budget to counter any public opinion and to create crisis scenario and divisiveness sa mga pilipino.
dami pa pero parang tulog-mantika ang karamihan sa ating mga kababayan, halos harap-harapang pagnanakaw at pagsasamantala ay mistulang pipi, bulag at bingi.
kung seditious man ang naging pahayag ng matatapang at magigiting na bishps ay upang gisingin lamang ang kamalayan ni juan dela cruz na totoong malala ang problema ng korupsiyon sa ating bansa…malalang korupsiyon na siya lalong nagpapahirap sa pobreng juan dela cruz.
sanay makiisa ang sambayan sa panawagan ng ating mga kaparian, ang sigasig ng civil society ay muli sanang mag-alab, ang kooperasyon ng business community ay muling mabuhay, ang sigaw ng kabataan ay muling umalingawngaw, at ang paninindigan ng ating mga sundalo at kapulisan ay muling magningas at higit sa lahat ang boses ng bawat pilipino ay dapat ng kumalampag sa abusado at gahamang rehimen ni gloria.
mabuhay ang pilipino!
Raul Gonzalez is the one who should be charged with sedition !
What is pathetic is that there are only a few of these bishops standing up for the people. Yung mga silent eh sila naman ang nakikinabang sa early “aguinalso” ng evil bitch. It is that time of the year again na ang mga mga sugo ng Diyos ay nangangailangan ng maraming datong para sa mahihirap na kababayan natin. Kaya kailangan na namang magingay ang mg obispo.
The same thing with the tongressmen. Lumalaki na ang mga mata ng mga ito dahil malaki na namang pera ang tatanggapin ng bawat isa sa kanila para bilhin ang “kamatayan” ng “impeachment”! Ngayon pa lang eh nag-wiwindow shopping na sila ng bibilhing bagong sasakyan at bagong condo para sa mga “kabit” nila.
As for the SIRAULO, di ba may bagong kidney yan? Baka nung nagpatransplant siya, yung kidney niya ay napunta sa utak kaya yung toxins ay sa utak niya dumadaan. Lalong lumala ang lagay niya!
ito talagang si siraulo gonzales, talagang sira ulo na nga. ulyanin na at malapit na ang paa sa hukay, kung magsalita, akala mo, invincible siya.
secretary of justice pa namang naturingan. typical example of how lousy gloria’s cohorts are.
si lorelei din, nanawagan na maging responsible daw ang mga bishops para hindi ma-confuse ang publiko. maraming beses na mismo ang amo niya at sila ang nagpapagulo ng tao ah! hindi niya rin ba alam yan. kabata-bata…corrupt na rin talaga!
Si Sir Raul O. Gonzales dapat diyan, sedation.
Parang babaing puta kung magdadaldal. Daig yung manikyurista kong alam lahat ng tsismis mula Libertad hanggang Rotonda.
Ang sama tignan sa TV ni Gonzales buti na lang wala pang HDTV sa Pinas kundi kitang-kita yung manas niya sa mukha. Buhay pa, mukha nang embalsamado!
Can somebody ask Escudero if gloria is corrupt as a person? Can he answer it with a yes or no. Nagtatanong lang kasi umeeksena sya lagi as an opposition pero never nyang tinuligsa si gloria as a person. Lagi yung mga tauhan or kaya yung pangyayari. Maigi na magkaalaman na ng maaga, baka kagaya rin ito ni cayetano.
The Russian incident was not the only one, there’s a Canadian incident also.
What’s the Canadian incident, juggernaut?
31 October 2008
These TONGressmen are giving bolante the tips how not to attend the senate investigation, in case there is such an investigation. You may ask why??? just read the newspapers, its there, every tips are there, they are giving him advise on how not to accept the senate or TONGress investigations.
Hehehehehe… even the ombudsman is doing the same. Hehehehehe…. again, now tell me do you think the evil bitch’s hoods have nothing to do with it, heck they are already afraid of the tetimony of the fat joke, coz they are telling their hoods to go on public to say this and to say that, so the fat joke could get his tips thru the news, hehehehe… naisahan na naman and senado…..
And of course, the visit of the fat pidal, he might have said, “emulate what my brother “the fake pidal” did” invoke the right to privacy, if applicable, hehehehehe…..
Haaaaaayyyyy. wala na namang mangyayari, BUSET!!!!!!
prans
The Sedition law in the Philippines is old. Personally, I think sedition laws in the Philippines are a breach of universally accepted human rights. The act is only to protect the existing elite and corrupt government within the country that enacts them, theoretically leaving no legal avenue of dissent.
This is an extremely dangerous situation because people without a legal means of expressing dissent often turn to
illegal means. Sometimes violent means. This begins a vicious circle of repression and violence that can tear a society apart rather than protect it.
Look at us now, we are all complaining- unhappy of the results of past performances and current performances. What’s wrong with our political leaders? People will not be seditious unless they feel that their rights have been protected. There’s no protection of human rights in our country. It’s been like that since 19 forgotten. Nothing has changed since I left for 17 years. It’s actually getting worst. ano ba ang gusto natin? hindi lang si Gloria. marami sila diyan. even if we get Gloria out, trust me… CORRUPT majority are still there and will continue what they are used to. that’s all they know.
The solution is DECENTRALIZATION OF POWER.
Raulo should realize that Freedom of Speech is a Guaranteed Right and can not be infringed even by a pit bull like him, so lay off and retire and give that tired brain of yours some deserving rest and enjoy all the shares you may have for being one of the Guys. time is runnig short.
Bishop tells RaulGon:Please, make my day
by Gerard Naval
Malacañg just might get what it is asking for, Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Oscar Cruz said yesterday following the statement of Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez that he and four other bishops are treading on thin ground because of their “seditious” statements calling for a change in government.
“The bishops know what sedition is. If Malacañang really wants them to be seditious, then it can simply request the bishops, who might oblige,” said Cruz, former president of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines.
Cruz, Jaro Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, Bishops Joel Baylon (Masbate) and Socrates Villegas (Balanga), and Bishop emeritus Jose Sorra on Tuesday called on Filipinos to start preparing for a new government as they said there is a need for transformation amid rampant state corruption.
For the rest of the story, click to
http://www.malaya.com.ph/oct31/news2.htm
Gonzales doesn’t have anything against the bishops. He is just making waves to get the headline, to drown out the news and take some heat off joc joc, while the back stage is busy planning a way out for him.
Tongue: Buhay pa, mukha nang embalsamado!
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Hindi kasi kanya iyong kidney niya. Baka niloko pa nila iyong donor gaya ng nangyayari doon sa mga naloko nang mga donor na nakatira sa Baseco. Who knows pero baka one of these days, mabalitaan na lang natin na tepok na ang inutil na iyan. Golly, dapat kinakasuhan iyan ng perjury!
Remember iyong kalokohan niya nang mamatay si FPJ? Iyon ang seditious na sinabi niyang iyong makikipaglibing kay FPJ lulusubin ang Malacanang para lang makalikha sila ng commotion at magulo iyong libing ng nasawing patriot!
Iyan ang dapat na kasuhan ng sedition sa madalas na pag-uudyok niya at suggestion na may rebolusyon kahit na sa totoo lang ay busy ang mga pilipino na pumila sa pagbili ng bigas kesa sumama sa mga rally at tuluyang mamatay sa gutom! 😛
hindi magreresign si GMA. Gloria to “save face” must do a harakiri or a suicide act. Once she does that…gloria talaga ang Filipinas..her name will be etched forever in the minds of young and old…if she does that she will save herself from being tried in court.. maiba ako puede ba siya mag self imposed exile..pero saan?
on the Malaya article:
“I return the challenge to Secretary Gonzales to automatically file proper charges against these bishops if he finds their act illegal. Verbal threats are no act of a self-respecting and thinking individual Escudero accused the government of “wantonly chasing individuals it deems critical to them” by filing charges.
i don’t think Gonzales will have the guts to file against the church. if so ,he is against the people. another circus of EDSA. if i were for Gloria, fire everyone who makes statements without majorities approval. remove everyone who will stand against the people. next secretary please
and jocjoc , we don’t need to sedate him. he will suffer alive. that’s the worst kind of life-dead man walking.
Hahahahaha! Si Sir Raul O. Goon mukhang embalsamado?
Everytime I see him speak on TV, I feel like throwing up. Maybe he can redeem his zombie look if he stops using pomade to style his thinning hair and use make up to hide his yellowish skin (as in inatake ng matinding hepatitis b!).
“Healing priest” Father Fernando Suarez has distanced himself from the recent pronouncements of five members of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines that called for a change in leadership — a stand that is deemed against President Arroyo and her administration.
…The above so called healing priest is a Canadian citizen. He has no business interfering in the political affairs of the country.
Baka may lupus si Gunggongzales, katulad ng naging sakit ni Marcos.
Wala na atang natirang true opposition sa senado, kungdi si Ping at Jamby. Para sa akin, mga opportunista lamang iyang sina Villar, Chiz at Cayutano. Hanga ako nuon kay Legarda, pero ng malink kay Angara, ayoko na sa kanya. Si Angara kasi naging campaign manager ata ni FPJ, nagkwarta lang at ni wlang narinig sa kanya nang matalo si FPJ dahil sa pandaraya ni Guryang. Prepreho na lang sila.
“Today, there is a dark wind blowing across our country again…the wind of ambition, a gathering storm of tyranny. We are here to shield that flame so that the light of democracy will not go out in our country again.”Cory Aquino
cory was wrong, the light went out long ago.
Si Angara at Legarda ay magsi…ta? Tatanda na nila ha mag-aano pa? Ngiiiiii!!!!! PUWEEE!!!!! Kay Glorya na lang ako kaysa yang Legarda na yan. Isa ring oportunista yan.
Yang mga Secretaries ngayon ni Arroyo ay diyan sila hanggat hindi sila kinukuha ng Demonyo. Yang si GungGungzales kahit nakaratay na lang sa kama … nagwi-wiwi at nagpu-pupo na sa kanyang kama … diyan pa rin yan. Kita niyo nga yong isang General dati may cancer na in-appoint pa ni Glorya.
I knew it. A motion for recon has been filed on the MOA-AD (Inquirer). So if the petitioners filed a comment, there would be a reply, and later, a prayer for oral argument. Kung mangyari yan, retired na si Ruben Reyes by the time a decision is due. Very cunning indeed.
BUT.
If the petitioners manifest that they would not file a comment and pray that the motion for recon be submitted for resolution without further pleading from them, tapos yang maneuver na yan.
Of course, pina-file sa other group, not the government, to bait the Petitioners into commenting, arguing that the group which filed a motion for recon has no standing. But I know Dean Agabin is too seasoned to fall for this ploy.
Nice try.
akala ko may sakit si raul gonzales buti di natuluyan wala na yata sa kanyang sarili makakapit lang sa puwesto
Tedanz, Loren needs Angara’s financial assistance while the latter needs the former’s romantic assistance.
BE, bakit magaling ba sa ano si Legarda …. ano kaya gamit ni Angara Vi…, Cia… Sabihin mo nag-gagamitan lang sila. Nag-pe-pen-de-sara-pen hahahaha!!!!. Oportunista naman yang babaeng yan kahit noon pa. Di pa nakapag-asawa dati ng DOM yan? Kaya hindi puwedeng maging Pangulo yan … kaya kay Glorya na lang ako … pagkat siya’y ulirang asawa at ina siya ng kanyang mga anak. Kung masama man siya … trabaho lang yan.
Loren has denied that rumor linking her to Angara.
cge tedanz kay gloria ka na lang…ang isang ulirang asawa at ina ay hindi gagawa ng kasiraan sa kanyang pangalan at sa kaniyang pamilya.
pero sabi nga “the family that corrupts together, stays together”
galing ng banat mo…panay patutsada at paninira sa oposisyon at admin pero panay kabig kay gloria…san ka ba talaga? dapat may sarili kang paninindigan, kung hindi ka sigurado sa paniniwala at pananaw mo mas mabuti pang tumahimik ka na lang.
dami pang katulad mo..di alam kung saan lulugar sa mga isyu.
sabi mo si loren oportunista? ikaw naman sigurista…
Of course she will deny. Her colleagues, the whole Senate, and those who know them already know it and have accepted it. It’s no longer a secret. Loren incurred so much debts after the 2004 election. She tried to mortgage her ancestral home. Angara came to her rescue. Since then, the two’s relationship has become special. This is no longer a rumor. All four corners in the Senate know this. Wherever Angara is, Loren goes and vice versa. Sometimes, it all starts with people’s needs and then it blossoms.
By the way, I’m so scared. I can feel the evil spirit roaming around me. I see the Evil Bitch’s face outside my window. Happy Holloween !
Oportunista naman yang babaeng yan kahit noon pa. Di pa nakapag-asawa dati ng DOM yan? Kaya hindi puwedeng maging Pangulo yan … kaya kay Glorya na lang ako … pagkat siya’y ulirang asawa at ina siya ng kanyang mga anak. Kung masama man siya … trabaho lang yan. – Tedanz
Lumabas rin ang tunay mong kulay.
Sinong may sabing uliran si Gloria Dorobo? Yuck! Pareho lang sila ni Loren. Parehong Assumpsionista! Kadiri!!!!
If one is anti-gloria, it will be anybody but gloria. Now we know that Tedanz is a clost supporter of gloria. Admire the courage for coming out from his/her shell. Ang sabi nga nila, nagladlad na rin siya ng kapa.
Pasensiyahan na lang TT baka maka-Legarda ka. Hindi ako maka-Glorya na sa akala mo. Kung mamimili ako sa dalawa … mukhang pipiliin ko yong buo ang pamilya kaysa ang babaeng paka-bit-a-bit. Ang ibig kung sabihin hindi puwede si Legarda na maging Pangulo kung ganyan ang nababalita sa kanya.
Ang kay Glorya ay isinusuka natin dahil sa kawalanghiyaan niya at ang kanyang asawa sampu na ang mga tuta niya sa pamamalakad ng Gobyerno na kanyang inagaw.
Legarda is still single? well, she needs more sex than career. don’t you think girls? 🙂
Its only a matter of coming up with solid evidences on anything seditious vis-a-vis on the ‘sins’ of Gloria. No need to prove anything on the tirades about Loren that comes normally from envious sectors. Mind you any redblooded guys like me and flailing DOMs have eyes ready for the likes of Loren. Unlike others who need strong dollars to bail out failed interests.
I prefer Pia Cayetano to Loren Legarda.
It’s never too late to do good. It’s never too late to correct past failures.
We should support the five courageous bishops.
kung masama man siya … trabaho lang yan.
Pinag-isipan ba ito?
Ganoon lang ba ka simple?
Pinag-usapan dito Governance, ‘di trabaho lang.
In the first place, we the majority didn’t even hire her in that position. She’s in that “trabaho” via highly questionable circumstance.
Ok lang pala, kahit nagka-letse-letse na tayo?
Tibay ng sikmura.
iwatcher, please take note, I changed to lower case the comments you posted in all capital letters. Please don’t write your comments in all caps. It doesn’t look good.
“Treason is the violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign” -> snipped from one of the informative posts above.
With GMA, Garci, Jocjoc, NBN-ZTE, Esperon, AFP’s comptroller – Garcia, Eur-anus-PNP Generals and dela Paz, add your own to the list… Any rebellion against this treasonous cabals sounds like a moral duty for Juan dela Cruz….?
I also noticed that tedanz’s statements were inconsistent. He reminds me of Malacanang people.
but Loren can be a good vice president.
Loren can be Sarah Palin. But do you think Loren would settle for Vice? Nah. She repeatedly said “It’s President or none”.
But we know that she doesn’t have the budget. Her financial backer Angara doesn’t have all the resources. So, maybe…yes maybe she could finally be convinced to run for Vice. It also depends on who the Presidential Candidate is.
“Trabaho lang iyan…”
Trabaho lang ni Gloria Dorobo ang magnakaw?
bitchevil,
i don’t know loren very well. i was just saying that we might be better off with a male president. I don’t know much of who would be the best next president. ang alam ko, mga corrupt pa rin and matira kay gloria. so what’s new really?
Tedanz,
HIndi mo kailangang humingi ng dispensa dahil hindi ako maka-Loren.
Kung ako ay may kakayahang maglagay ng kandidato sa pagka-Pangulo, dalawa lang ang bata ko: Si Orbos o si Lacson. Kung nasa edad na si Trillanes, pangatlo siya.
Kung ang pamantayan lang ng pagiging pangulo ay ang hindi pakikipag-kabit, maka-Gloria ka nga dahil yung tatlong lalaking pangulong sinundan niya ay may mga kabit.
Pero dahil wala siyang kabit (o wala pang may matibay na ebidensiya) hindi sapat iyon na maging “masama” siya dahil “trabaho lang”.
Wala ngang kabit, magnanakaw naman.
Wala ngang kabit, sinungaling naman.
Wala ngang kabit, mandaraya naman.
Atin-atin lang, yung maraming kabit, maraming nagmamahal.
TT, tama ka diyan … maraming nagmamahal. Peks man hindi ko sasabihin sa iba.
Hindi rin naman tayo nagkakalayo ng napipiling Presidentiable, ako naman ay Lacson-Roxas. Dati sabi ko nga Trillanes pero sabi nga ni Ellen bata pa siya.
Tama ka may naging Pangulo tayong paka-bit-a-bit pero hindi ko sila ibinoto. Maliit lang kasi ang tingin ko sa mga taong nagwawala. Hindi ko rin ibinoto yang Glorya na yan, mukha pa lang niya asar na ako lalo na pag bumuka na yong kanyang bunganga.
Ako, tanggapin ko kahit sinong presidente basta binoto ng taumbayan. Ang hindi ko matanggap ay hindi naman binoto ng taumbayan, nakaupo bilang presidente. Ayaw ko ng peke.
Yes, Tedanz, Trillanes is just 39 years old come 2010.
To run for president one has to be 40 years old.
ms. ellen, sino ba ang gusto ng pekeng presidente? kaso nga galing nila di ba? peke na nga eh, gusto pang ayusin yung pandaraya nila para pag nag-imbestiga nga naman ang electoral tribunal eh duktor na duktor na ang mga vote certificates parang tunay ang lahat…
at sino namang matinong tao ang mag-iisip na mandaya, manloko, manlinlang at magsinungaling kundi yung mga taong sukdulan ang takaw sa kapangyarihan at kayamanan.
buti pa ang US kahit pano may liberator na sa katauhan ni sen. obama pagkatapos ng pang-aabuso at mga maling polisiya ni bush, samantalang ang pinas maghihirap pa at magpapakasakit ng dalawang taon?
at kung magka-eleksiyon man sa atin – no to noli! no to villar! no to loren! no to roxas! no to estrada! at higit sa lahat no to gma extension! at suriing mabuti si lacson, si jinggoy, si bf, si binay…at sana ay matuto na tayo sa 2010, kung may eleksiyon man.
may pag-asa pa rin ang ating bansa…makiisa, magmatyag at manindigan sa mga isyu at usapin ng bansa.
mabuhay ka pilipino!