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Privilege speech by Sen. Panfilo Lacson

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In Greek drama, masks were useful devices that allow the actor to play several different characters.

In the Philippine political drama, nothing much differs.

Mr. President, distinguished colleagues. Today, I rise on a matter of
personal and collective privilege.

The great American writer Elbert Green Hubbard once wrote:

If you work for a man, in heaven’s name work for him…. If you must
vilify, condemn, and eternally disparage, resign your position, and
when you are OUTSIDE, DAMN TO YOUR HEART’S CONTENT, but as long as you are part of the institution do not condemn it. If you do that, you are loosening the tendrils that are holding you to that institution, and at the first high wind that comes along, you will be uprooted and blown away, and will probably never know the reason why.

I hope you will understand why it has taken me this long to unburden
myself of the truth I carry.

Having once been a professional soldier trained in the tradition and
practice of institutional and even personal loyalty, only the higher
interest of nation and people, and the highest call of conscience,
impel me to speak out.

Mr. President, you, more than any of us in this hall, understand what I mean.

When you went through the gut-wrenching crucible of mutiny against
your commander-in-chief on February 22, 1986, you had to choose
between loyalty to person against loyalty to the higher interest of
nation and people.

Jose Ejercito, or Joseph Estrada, also known as Jose Velarde, former
president of the Republic of the Philippines and the first and only
head of state of this country to be impeached by Congress was elected
in 1998 with the highest number of votes cast by the Filipino people
ever.

He also won by the biggest margin ever, over his closest opponent,
Jose de Venecia Jr.

His campaign slogan –Erap para sa Mahirap – was a masterpiece, almost a stroke of genius.

Before he ran for the presidency, I worked with him closely as head of
an anti-crime task force of the defunct Presidential Anti-Crime
Commission formed by then President Fidel Valdez Ramos to combat the
kidnapping scourge that was gripping the country.

Foreign investors were avoiding us, while local businessmen,
especially the ethnic Chinese, were transferring elsewhere.

It was one big security and even economic threat that faced the newly
elected president in 1992.

I joined then Vice President Estrada on August 4, 1992, after a
short-lived stint as provincial director of Laguna in the Southern
Tagalog region.

I gladly accepted the offer to join PACC since I was not happy anyway
with my Laguna assignment.

I was consistently at loggerheads with most of the local elective
officials when I waged a no-nonsense, uncompromising battle against
the illegal numbers game, jueteng, in that jurisdiction.

Needless to say, those officials who were on the take from jueteng
operators hated my guts and wanted me out of the province at first
opportunity.

At the PACC, and it is a matter of public record, we scored high in
our anti-crime efforts. In less than a year, we brought down an
alarmingly high incidence of kidnap-for-ransom cases to zero.

Literally, zero.

This was highlighted by the neutralization of the dreaded Red Scorpion
Group on February 17, 1993.

Modesty aside, but without mental reservation, I can dare say our
performance helped chart Mr. Estrada’s road to the presidency.

More than a couple of years before the May 1998 presidential
elections, he was virtually a president-in-waiting.

Mr. Estrada impressed me with the way he handled his subordinates. He
personally took care of our needs, always mindful of our safety and
security.

He also managed to personally thank and commend all the operatives for a good day’s work, even giving incentives after big accomplishments

It was his personal recommendation to then President Ramos that earned me my first star rank in 1994, way ahead of my peers and even senior officers in the Philippine National Police.

During our private conversations, he would tell me:

“Alam mo Ping, kung matitigil lang ang katiwalian sa ating bansa,
siguradong maiaangat natin mula sa kahirapan ang karamihan ng ating
mga kababayan. Napakalaki kasi ang nawawala sa budget dahil sa
‘corruption’, kaya hindi tayo makaahon sa hirap.”

Having been born to poor parents myself, he struck me as the man our
country needed to lead our people.

Needless to say, I was impressed.

I would tell my men and as many people I could reach, “Kung mahal
natin ang ating bansa, si Erap ang dapat nating maging susunod na
presidente at wala nang iba.”

I put those words into action during the presidential campaign in 1998.

Under pain of being accused of electioneering, I mustered all the men
I had worked with in the Philippine National Police and the Armed
Forces of the Philippines to mount an organized strategic effort to
thwart election fraud as that could be the only way to prevent Mr.
Estrada’s victory in the 1998 presidential election.

My men and I went around the whole country – Luzon, Visayas and
Mindanao, talked to as many field commanders and chiefs of police, so
that they would not allow themselves to be used as instruments to
cheat Mr Estrada out of sure victory.

In one of our visits in Mindanao, I met with then Southcom Chief Lt.
Gen. Joselin Nazareno.

I brought him to Vice President Estrada to make his personal
commitment to guard the votes in Mindanao and made Mr Estrada promise to consider him as the next AFP Chief of Staff when he becomes president.

He did not just promise to consider. He committed the post to Gen. Nazareno.

So Erap became president, all right.

After his victory in May 1998, he started making announcements for
possible appointments to key positions in his government.

One not-so-fine afternoon, he summoned me to his Polk St. Greenhills
residence and asked if he could appoint another ranking general as AFP
Chief of Staff, instead of Gen. Nazareno.

I told him, that was his prerogative as incoming commander-in-chief,
but firmly reminded him that a promise was made to Gen. Nazareno.

His sudden amnesia got me to start thinking, “something could be wrong with the character of this man.”

This thought came again sometime in early June of 1998.

He called me to talk about what I thought would be my possible
appointment as Chief, PNP.

Instead, he expressed his thoughts on jueteng and how he intended to
deal with it during his presidency.

He said: “Ping, iniisip ko, pagbigyan na lang natin itong jueteng.
Alam mo, ang mga governors at mayors, lalo na ‘yung mga tumulong sa
akin sa eleksyon, wala sila ng katulad sa President’s social fund na
galing sa Pagcor. Marami silang gastusin at sa jueteng lang nila
pwedeng kunin ang pera.”

Shocked and surprised, I retorted, “Sir, ilegal ‘yan. Saka presidente
na kayo. Dapat huwag na kayong makialam sa jueteng. Larong lupa pati
iyan. Sasabog kayo diyan at masisira tayo pareho.

Visibly dismayed and irritated, he said, “Sige, saka na lang tayo mag-usap.”

He walked me to the main door of his house and used another tack:
“Saka, Ping, ‘yung mga tao natin dati sa task force, gusto ko rin
silang bigyan ng monthly allowance.”

To which I quickly replied: “Sir, ang mga tao natin, kami lahat,
mababaw lang ang kaligayahan namin. Kahit additional subsistence
allowance lang, happy na kami.”

Hiding his irritation, he gave me a quick and curt goodbye.

Finally on November 16, 1999, I was appointed Chief, PNP. But only
after persistent second thoughts from the appointing authority.

On November 15 of the same year, I received a call from his cohort,
Mr. Jaime Dichavez, who was, at that time, with Mr. Estrada in
Tagaytay Highlands in Cavite.

Mr. Dichavez told me I was to be informed of my appointment as Chief, PNP.

It did not turn out to be that simple.

In the living room of the Tagaytay resthouse, he told me very
seriously: “Ping, dapat pagbigyan natin ang operation ng jueteng.
Maraming umaasa diyan.”

“Eto na naman kami,” I said to myself.

By that time, I had realized jueteng had always been the deal breaker
in getting my impending appointment and must be the reason why I was not appointed in June of 1998.

Maintaining my immovable position that I cannot, as we must not,
tolerate anything that is illegal, he asked, “Sino ba ang mas senior
sa inyo ni Wycoco?” (referring to the late NBI director, Reynaldo
Wycoco), to which I answered, “Kung seniority sir sa PMA (Philippine
Military Academy), siya, dahil una siyang nag-graduate. Pero ngayon,
pareho lang kaming 2-star general, sir.”

He did not appoint me right there, instead instructed me to follow his
convoy back to Malacañang in Metro Manila.

It was in Malacañang, that same evening, that he finally informed me
of my appointment to the position, but not without his “huling hirit
sa jueteng.”

It was also during that conversation when I told him I was aware of
the monthly P5 Million “S.O.P.” being given by Gov. Chavit Singson to
the Chief, PNP as part of an organized payola, and that I was waiving
it, therefore would not accept it.

Three or four months after my assumption of office, I learned that Mr.
Estrada asked Gov. Singson to remit to him retroactively the monies
intended for the Chief, PNP.

He told Gov. Singson: “Gov, baka akala mo, hindi ko alam na hindi
kinukuha ng bagong Chief,PNP ang para sa kanya. Ibigay mo rin sa akin
‘yan.”

After all the internal reforms that I instituted in the PNP were in
place, including my “no-take policy, anti-kotong campaign, 34-inch
maximum waistline, strong anti-crime and anti-drugs campaign, proper
allocation and downloading of funds, and logistics to front-line
units, I started training my guns on the illegal numbers game –
jueteng.

It was a no-nonsense, no-matter-who-gets-hurt kind of a campaign.

I thought if I was hard on lowly policemen who stopped mulcting P100
or P200 from vegetable dealers and hapless taxi cab and jeepney
drivers out of deference to my no-take policy, I should be as hard, if
not harder, against my regional and provincial directors who were
raking in millions of pesos from gambling operators.

This was when my life started to become miserable.

The general public, even most of my distinguished colleagues in this
hall, may not be aware of this, but it was common knowledge in
Malacañang as well as in Camp Crame at that time, that for the most
part of the second half of the year 2000, I was not welcome in the
palace due to my differences with then President Estrada over the
issue of jueteng.

Mr. Estrada had unofficially declared me persona non grata in the
palace grounds.

I was practically in the doghouse for an unusually extended period of
time. Mr. Estrada would not talk to me.

He was dealing directly with my subordinate officers, both at the
PAOCTF and the PNP, which I both headed in concurrent capacity.

I could not even report to him about major incidents like the bombings
in Mindanao because he was no longer answering my calls, which he used to do, and in earnest.

“Anak ng jueteng na buhay ito!” I would tell my close friends.

Jueteng became a sore point between me and Mr. Estrada. I made it
clear that I would stick to my “no-take policy” and I continued to
issue stern warnings to my regional and provincial directors that if
they tolerate jueteng operations in their areas of responsibility,
they would be removed and subjected to harsh disciplinary action.

At least one regional director who had direct and strong connections
with Mr Estrada was defiant.

When I confronted him, he said, “Napagalitan ako ni presidente nang
simulan ko ang kampanya laban sa jueteng dito. Sino ba ang susundin
ko, Chief, PNP o ang Commander-in-Chief?”

I was successful in instituting reforms in the PNP because Mr. Estrada
gave me full authority which I asked in the first place when I got
appointed to the post.

But because of jueteng, Mr Estrada, issued a written memorandum to
then Secretary of Interior and Local Government Alfredo Lim,
effectively taking away from me the authority to appoint and remove
police officials down to provincial director level.

“Hindi nga talaga mahina ang ulo ng presidenteng ito,” I told myself.
By removing that authority, I could no longer discipline my officers,
I would fail in my anti-gambling operations and worse, I would
definitely fail in my mission.

Resigning my position crossed my mind then. I spent many sleepless
nights agonizing over my situation.

In one of our Cluster E Cabinet meetings held in the office of the
DFA, then AFP Chief of Staff Gen Angelo Reyes took pity on me and gave
his advice, “Pare, Commander-in-Chief natin ‘yan. Pagbigyan mo na muna ngayon at saka ninyo na lang pag-usapan ang problema ninyo ni
Presidente.”

I answered him, “Sir, question de prinsipyo ito. Ako ang nasa tama sa
labang ito. Tanggalin na lang n’ya ako, pero hindi ako bibigay dito.”

I found out later that indeed Mr. Estrada had started gathering legal
basis to justify my relief.

On hindsight, people close to Mr. Estrada and this representation
would say as an afterthought – EDSA 2 could not have happened had Mr Estrada listened to General Lacson’s consistent advice on jueteng.
Simple.

But on the other hand, EDSA 2 would not have happened if I went along with Mr. Estrada and Gov. Singson and altogether tolerated jueteng operations.

Why?

Bingo 2-Ball would not have been conceived to legalize jueteng.

We all know that it was during its implementation that there was a
misunderstanding and falling out between Mr. Estrada and Chavit
Singson.

Mr. Estrada realized that I would not waver on my stand against
jueteng and thought that by legalizing it, I would not have any more
reason to conduct raids and operations.

Jueteng is just one illustrative insight into the character of Mr.
Estrada as a government official, and as President of the country.
There were other sinister behavioral patterns that must be told to the
Filipino people.

Sa likod ng isang maka-mahirap na Joseph Estrada na mahal na mahal ng masa, ay maraming transaksyon na may kasamang pang-aabuso, gamit ang kapangyarihang kaagapay ng pagiging pangulo ng bansa, upang magkamal ng maraming salapi para sa sariling kapakanan.

In August 1998, in the early part of Mr. Estrada’s abbreviated
presidency, Mr. Alfonso Yuchengco was pressured to sign conveyance of his 7.75% PTIC (Philippine Telecommunications Investment Corporation) holdings, equivalent to 18,720 shares to Metro Pacific, represented by Manuel V. Pangilinan.

These PTIC holdings correspond to 2,017,650 PLDT common shares.

Mr. Yuchengco, I also learned later, was pressed to sign a waiver of
his right of first refusal over the PTIC shares of the Cojuangco-Meer
group.

It was only after the passage of many years that I was to learn that
Mr. Estrada, barely two months in office then, used the PNP to harass
Mr. Yuchengco’s son, Tito, with threat of arrest on some trumped-up
drug charges to force his father, Mr. Yuchengco to sell.

This harassment of the young man was accomplished through deliberate and obvious physical surveillance.

“Napag-alaman ko na matagal tagal ding may kimkim na galit daw sa akin ang pamilyang Yuchengco sa dahilang ang pagkaalam nila ay sa akin iniutos ni Mr Estrada ang panggigipit sa kanila upang mapwersang
magbenta ng kanilang pag-aaring shares of stocks ng PLDT.

Sa inyo, Ginoong Pangulo ng Senado, mga pinagpipitaganan kong
kasamahan at sampu ng pamilya Yuchengco — wala po akong kamalay-malay sa pangyayaring iyan.

At kung halimbawa mang sa akin iniutos ni Mr Estrada ang gawaing iyon, ay siguradong hindi ko po susundin.”

The bigger and more important question remains – “What was the deal in pesos and centavos between Mr Estrada and Mr Pangilinan, if any?”

Or, should we rather ask, “How much was involved?”

Sa larangan naman ng smuggling sa Customs at sa iba pang lugar ay
hindi rin masusukat ang kakayahan ni Mr. Estrada.

When Mr. Estrada transferred the mission of going after smugglers from
the late Lt Gen. Jose Calimlim’s unit in PSG to the PAOCTF, he gave me
the mandate to go hammer and tongs against smugglers.

Yet one morning, I received a call from Mr. Estrada. “May mga tao ka
raw na nangha-harass sa Customs,” he said with a low tone.

After checking with my officers, I replied, “Wala sila sir sa loob ng
Customs zone kaya imposibleng makapang-harass sila doon. Nandun sila
sa labas, malapit sa Manila Hotel at may inaabangan na ilulusot na
shipments ng dressed chicken parts from China and the US.”

He bellowed, “Basta i-pull out mo!”

A few days later in a light conversation on the topic of smuggling,
inside his office in Malacañang, I told Mr. Estrada, “Alam mo sir,
dalawampung 40-foot containers sana ng dressed chickens ang nahuli
natin kung hindi mo iniutos i-pull out ang mga tao natin.”

With a mocking voice, he said, “Sana hindi kayo nag-pull out.”

Akala ko, nang bigyan ako ng kautusang lipulin ang mga smugglers sa
pier, totoong-totoo at seryoso. Ako namang si gago, trabaho lang ng
trabaho. ‘Yun pala, moro-moro.

May dalawang mukha nga ba ang sining? O, sa likod ng putting tabing ay ibang itsura ng mukha ang nakatago?

Pagkatapos ng manok na galing sa Tsina at Amerika, dumako naman tayo
sa bigas na tanim ng Vietcong.

Sometime in August 2000, when Mr. Estrada was hardly talking to me, on account of my hard-headedness on the issue of jueteng, he was giving a direct order to one of my subordinate officers in PAOCTF to release a shipload of smuggled rice that was apprehended somewhere in the Cebu-Bohol area.

The PAOCTF officer was with me in Cebu during that time, and he was
relaying to me the President’s order.

I did not bother to find out anymore if the officer complied or not
with Mr. Estrada’s order.

I thought I should not interfere with a direct order coming from the
President to a subordinate officer because in doing so I felt that it
would add insult to injury upon myself.

Sadly, because we never punish smugglers, the same people who
sabotaged our economy during the Estrada regime are the same saboteurs in bed with the present dispensation.

Walang nagbago, lalo lang lumaki ang komisyon at lagayan.

In an effort to defend himself from accusations that he may have been
involved in the Dacer-Corbito double murder case, he has consistently
asserted that he never dealt with officials other than the heads of
agencies.

Yet, on so many occasions, and I have personal knowledge on this,
during his presidency, he was giving direct orders and instructions
deep into the layers of the entire government bureaucracy, the PNP and the PAOCTF included.

And those who have worked with him in Malacañang know whereof I speak.

Mr. Estrada had the temerity to issue a press statement that I was the
one who knew and in fact supervised what former police officer Cezar
Mancao had testified in court as “Operation or Oplan Delta”, allegedly
a special operations plan designed to neutralize Salvador “Bubby”
Dacer.

Mabuti pa si Mr. Estrada, alam niyang may “Oplan Delta.” Ako, sa mga
pahayagan at kamakailan ko lamang narinig at nalaman na mayroon palang “Oplan Delta.”

Sa halip na i-depensa na lang niya ang sarili niya, bakit siya
kailangang magturo ng iba?

Mr. President, distinguished colleagues, maraming bagay-bagay na sa
abot ng aking natuklasan, matapos ang aking sariling pagsasaliksik at
pag-iimbestiga hindi lamang sa usaping ito kundi pati ibang kasong
maaring kinasangkutan ni Ginoong Estrada ang nais kong ibahagi sa
kapulungang ito.

Marami din akong gustong itanong kay Mr. Estrada:

1. Sino ang inutusan mo para i-harass at gipitin ang pamilya ni Al Yuchengco?

2. Sino ang tumawag sa iyo para utusan ako na i-pull out ang mga tao
kong nakaabang na hulihin ang smuggled chicken parts?

3. Kaninong shipment ng smuggled rice ang ipina-release mo sa Cebu?

4. At higit sa lahat, anu-ano pa ang mga iniutos mo sa ating mga
dating tauhan sa PAOCTF na lingid sa aking kaalaman?

But for now and today, I will limit the subject of my privilege speech
to the issues I mentioned.

Mr. President, distinguished colleagues, with your indulgence, please
allow me to take the floor once again on Monday next week.

For former President Joseph Ejercito-Estrada, there is no corruption
if it does not involve government funds.

Therefore, following his flawed logic, it is not corruption to accept
bribes – from jueteng and some shady deals that involve using the
power and influence of the presidency.

He has not heard of ‘conflict of interest’ nor taking advantage of
one’s position to amass wealth.

He has not changed that loose definition of corruption.

In media interviews and in his conversations with friends and
associates, he maintains that he had not done anything wrong since all
his transactions while he was president did not involve government
funds.

Now he is presenting himself again to the Filipino people, for one
more chance at the presidency.

At this juncture of our history, after suffering eight years of
unmitigated corruption under the regime which succeeded the Estrada
presidency, I would be remiss in my sworn duties as an elected member
of the Senate, as a nationally elected official of the land, if I did
not unburden myself of my insights into the character of Mr. Estrada.

Marahil may mga magsasabi na sa mga binigkas ko ngayon ay hindi ako
marunong tumanaw ng utang na loob, lalo na sa pangulong siyang
naghirang sa akin.

Ngunit hindi naman din matatawaran ang naibahagi kong tulong, sampu ng aking mga tauhan, sa kanyang katanyagan nung siya ay nanunungkulang bise-presidente at bilang Chairman ng Presidential Anti-Crime Commission.

Ang mas mahalaga ay pairalin ang marapat at matuwid.

At lalong mahalaga na gawing kataas-taasang adhikain ang kapakanan at kinabukasan ng mamamayang Pilipino.

God save the Philippines from Joseph Ejercito alias Joseph Estrada.

September 14, 2009 5:07 pm  Tags: ,   Posted in: Governance, Peace and Order, Philippine National Police

271 Responses

  1. Ellen - September 14, 2009 5:13 pm

    San Juan Mayor JV Ejercito:

    What happened? Why only now Sen. Lacson?

    I feel sorry for Sen. Lacson for submitting himself to become part of an effort to further destroy the image of President Erap. If all his allegations were true and that he is a man of principle, why did he only speak now? Surely not because of his conscience?

    All the issues he raised against President Erap were the same lies used then in 2001 by syndicates and putschist that put Gloria in power and that caused the suffering of the Filipino people since 2001. The same old issues were the same lies that caused President Erap’s imprisonment. Does Sen. Lacson want to once again put in jail President Erap?

    As President Erap has LEARNED from his experience as president and later-on as a political prisoner, I hope Sen. Lacson will learn to rethink his positions.

  2. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 5:20 pm

    Wow!

    Ping wasn’t joking when he said, he was making a privilege speech about former Pres Estrada.

    He’s right, corruption has two faces.

  3. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 5:22 pm

    JV,

    Answer: Because your father made the mistake of insinuating that he (Ping) could be involved in the murder of a publicist.

  4. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 5:32 pm

    I have a feeling that Ping might just have put the last nail on Erap’s coffin, i.e., renewed presidential ambition.

  5. martina - September 14, 2009 6:05 pm

    Siguro tatahimik na nga sana si Ping tungkol kay Erap, pero parang gusto ni Erap na si Ping lang ang madamay sa Dacer case.

    Pwede namang mapatunayan ang sinasabi ni Ping, kung magconfirm o magdeny sina Yuchengco.

    Hindi ko malimutan ang sabi ni erap na ‘weather-weather’ lang. Parang nakakatakot naman na kung sya naman uli sa pwesto, kung ano mang gawin niya sorry na lang tayo kasi weather (power) naman niya.

  6. martina - September 14, 2009 6:09 pm

    Mabuti na lang may Noynoy na sa pagpipilian, kasi si Erap sana gusto ko nuon.

  7. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 6:21 pm

    Sayang, Ping couldn’t hack it.

  8. andres - September 14, 2009 7:11 pm

    Adebrux,

    Mukhang naghahanap lang ng damay si Ping sa Dacer murder case. Kaya nag-isip na lang na idawit si Erap.

    Tandaan na si Lacson ay isang traydor, mula noong 2004 hindi siya umatras laban kay GMA. Natulungan niya si GMA at sinabi pa niya na si FPJ ay walang karapatan tumakbo kung di niya kaya bantayan ang boto niya.

    Magtanong ka ng kahit sinong PMA graduate, at walang gusto kay Ping Lacson.

    Walang traydor na patuloy na magtatagumpay.

  9. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 7:16 pm

    Yehey!!!! Bravo!!!
    Tanong ko lang po dito kay Lacson, kung dumeretso si Erap na iutos na patayin nila Dumlao si Dacer at hindi ipina-daan sa kanya bakit siya isinasabit ni Dumlao? Bakit hindi na lang si Erap ang idiniin dito sa kasong ito.
    Gayun pa man …. jueteng pa din ang topic. Yong iba naman ay diskarte na ng Pangulo. Wala naman talagang perpektong Pangulo. Sabi ko nga pag nasa Malakanyang ka na .. kumakatok na lang yong tukso. Pero wala siyang binanggit gaya ng ZTE o Fertizer scam.
    Ayos ka Mr. Lacson, naaawa ako sa iyo. Para mong sinasabi na mas karapat dapat kang Pangulo dahil ikaw ay perpekto. Bugok!!! Ano kaya sa tingin mo Mr. Lacson pag si Esperon naman ang magbubulgar sa mga katiwalian ni Glorya?
    Di ba dapat kung babagsak ang Boss mo dapat kasama ka din, Nagmamalinis ka Lacson, buti na lang at hindi ka naging Pangulo. Ngayon Puwede mo ng kunin yong premyo mo.

  10. andres - September 14, 2009 7:21 pm

    Tedanz,

    Tama ka pare ko! Si Lacson ay nagpagamit sa mga kalaban ni Erap. Si GMA siguradong masaya, at pati na si Manny Villar na kadikit ni Erap sa survey.

    Sino maniniwala kay Lacson na siya lang ang tanging malinis?

    Malinis sa katawan oo, minsan nga nagdududa na ako na hindi tunay na lalaki ito si Ping.

    Traydor si Ping Lacson at walang dapat paniwalaan sa ganitong klaseng tao.

  11. andres - September 14, 2009 7:24 pm

    Inamin naman ni Erap na ang Jueteng ay hindi niya agad pinatigil dahil daan libo ang nabubuhay dahil dito. Nguni’t ito ay ginawang legal thru Bingo 2 Ball diba?
    Kaya nga nagalit si Chavit dahil ayaw niyang pumasok sa gobyerno ang kita ng jueteng.

  12. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 7:24 pm

    Tama ka Andres …. Traydor talaga itong taong ito. Ang klase ni Lacson ay yong taong hindi mo mapagkakatiwalaan. Hindi sa ipinagmamalasakit ko si Erap. Gaya nga ng sinabi ko na pag ang iyong Boss ay babagsak .. kasama ka din na babagsak. Ibang klase nga kayo ni Gen Reyes na PMA’er … bihasa naman kayo sa pagka-traydor.

  13. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 7:35 pm

    Mas lalake pa yata si Neri kaysa sa iyo .. Mr. Lacson.

  14. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 7:35 pm

    Tandaan na si Lacson ay isang traydor, mula noong 2004 hindi siya umatras laban kay GMA. andres

    But I don’t understand…the fact that he stood his ground and ran against Gloria Macapagal, the fact that he thought that FPJ wouldn’t be a good president, the fact that he is disliked by his PMA classmates don’t mean that he is traydor to his principles.

    He may be perceived as a traydor but I’d like to know who or the moral qualifications of the people he made traydor to before I could begin to brand him traydor?

    The question, if there should be one is did he kill the publicist?

    He reminds me of a British Army general who retired a couple of months ago, General Sir Richard Dannatt who was branded traydor to his face by military and media alike, by Gordon Brown and members of the British Ministry of Defence, Veterans affairs, etc., etc., for exposing the lies and excecrable conditions of the ground troops. He paid a steep price for doing his duty, he was overlooked for the Chief Defence Forces Staff (equivalent AFP chief) because he spoke out.

    They are still running against Dannatt today for alleged household expense scam that he charged to Army coffers which have proven untrue. Last week, Veterans Affairs again called him a “traitor.”

    If traitors come of the category of Dannatt (and hopefully of the Ping Lacson variety), then by all means, let’s have traitors!

  15. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 7:42 pm

    If Ping Lacson, or any public figure for that matter, who was/is traitor to people who were and are corrupt, then by all means, let’s have more traitors like him.

  16. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 7:48 pm

    During the 2004 election season, my mother rang me after reading my letters which were published in Malaya, in Ellen’s column, in Ducky Paredes’ column and in the Tribune saying that out of principle, I couldn’t vote for FPJ. She said, FPJ was the only viable solution to kicking out Gloria for good. I told my Mum that I was sorry but I couldn’t vote for someone I thought was infinitely unqualified to take the helm of the presidency and that I was voting for Lacson.

    Was I being traydor to my Mother because I stood my ground and stuck to my principles?

  17. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 8:11 pm

    AdeBrux,
    Hindi ka traydor dahil akala mo si Lacson ang nararapat noon.
    Kung talagang malinis siya at kung ayaw niya kay Erap … di sana kumalas na sa kanya noon pa. Nag-resign na sana siya. Bakit ngayon pa ilang taon na ang nakakalipas.
    “The question, if there should be one is did he kill the publicist?
    Eto nga ang tanong ko kanina “Tanong ko lang po dito kay Lacson, kung dumeretso si Erap na iutos na patayin nila Dumlao si Dacer at hindi ipina-daan sa kanya bakit siya isinasabit ni Dumlao? Bakit hindi na lang si Erap ang idiniin dito sa kasong ito.”
    Di ba magulo ang statement niya.

  18. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 8:23 pm

    Nag-resign na sana siya. Bakit ngayon pa ilang taon na ang nakakalipas.

    To that question, one could only surmise that he doesn’t want to be made a patsy.

    In any case, it’s important to put things in their proper perspective. How long was Estrada an ‘effective’ president? Remember that the Sipadan hostage crisis had reduced his presidency to ineffectivity as early as August 2000 which would have put his effective presidency to something like 2 years.

    Should Lacson have resigned when he felt he was going nowhere even before Aug 2000? A question well put. Lacson said that he was declared persona non grata IN the Palace but from what we gather from his privileg speech, it — the fact that he was persona non grata — didn’t prevent him from exercising his duties.

    Was he right not to resign even before Estrada’s presidency began to crumble, i.e., when (according to him) Estrada told him to go easy on jueteng operators? Maybe so, maybe not… I want to hear his 2nd privilege speech.

  19. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 8:24 pm

    “And if this gentleman does not stop spreading lies about my father, I will tell that truth about the person of Senator Lacson.” — Jinggoy
    Dapat huwag ng hintayin pa … sabihin na niya kung ano rin ang kagaguhan ng gagong ito.
    Kita niyo mga Igan, dito sa ginawa ni Lacson …. naglalabasan na lahat ng mga baho nila. Chain reaction yan at huwag niyang sabihing malinis siya(Lacson).
    Anong klaseng tao ito … dapat pala ito ang taong maalis sa puwesto. Sino pa kaya ang nagtitiwala sa taong ito? Ito pala ang taong nagpapagulo sa ating lipunan. Ngayon naa-awa na din ako kay Villar.

  20. mbw - September 14, 2009 8:33 pm

    in my honest opinion, Lacson is a traitor to the personage of Erap estrada. He has given a lot of privilege speeches, several major exposes and all of them with teeth, so to speak. I have heard from inner circles that he speaks from the gut. Controversial kasi he dares.
    He did say (and as I recall) that his privilege speech will be culled from personal investigations re the character of erap. That’s all. I don’t judge the man. Politics is after all the art of power.

  21. chi - September 14, 2009 8:34 pm

    Yehey, away-away silang mga pulitiko na against daw kay Gloria. Kamutak-mutak ay si Gibo na ang Pinas president o kaya ay si Gloria na ang prime minister!

  22. chi - September 14, 2009 8:36 pm

    “Tanong ko lang po dito kay Lacson, kung dumeretso si Erap na iutos na patayin nila Dumlao si Dacer at hindi ipina-daan sa kanya bakit siya isinasabit ni Dumlao? Bakit hindi na lang si Erap ang idiniin dito sa kasong ito.” Tedanz

    Gusto ko ring malaman, the question is relevant.

  23. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 8:37 pm

    Tedanz,

    That’s fine… let’s have all the baho. Good drama!

    Meanwhile, we mustn’t lose sight of Arroyo’s corruption. This is what matters most today.

  24. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 8:40 pm

    Sino pa kaya ang nagtitiwala sa taong ito?

    Me!

    For the moment, I would rather place my trust in him than in the so-called witness of Gloria and SiraUloGonzales.

  25. totingmulto - September 14, 2009 8:42 pm

    Mabuhay ka Ping Lacson!

    Sayang, the mindanao smuggling and masiao in collaboration with hoodlums were not mentioned.( sa cebu lang) Pero pwede na rin.

    Oust Gloria. No to trapos!

  26. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 9:05 pm

    AdeBrux,

    Tama ka si Glorya ang problema natin ngayon.
    Pero naguguluhan ako dito kay Lacson …. naghahanap buhay kaya siya? Ang puhunan niya yong isiwalat ang baho ng dating Boss niya? Noong una si Villar ang ginago niya … naniwala naman ako … tapos eto na naman ….. sino kaya ang isusunod niya. Dati bilib ako sa taong ito pero ngayon … PUWEEEEE!!!!

  27. Diego K. Guerrero - September 14, 2009 9:08 pm

    Re: “It was also during that conversation when I told him I was aware of the monthly P5 Million “S.O.P.” being given by Gov. Chavit Singson to the Chief, PNP as part of an organized payola, and that I was waiving it, therefore would not accept it”. Sen. Ping Lacson

    Anak ng jueteng! Kung ito’y S.O.P. payola di patuloy ang kaligayahan hangang Malacanang. Anong nangyari sa jueteng expose’ ni Sandra Cam? Si Erap ay nakulong dahil sa payola. May araw din si Gloria Arroyo.

  28. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 9:15 pm

    DKG,
    Tama ka diyan. Hanggang ngayon talamak pa ang jueteng sa Ilocos Sur.
    Sapul lahat … tapos magsasalita rin si Jinggoy tungkol sa mga kagaguhan niya …. hay naku Lacson … itigil mo na ang kagaguhan mo. Gusto mo ba na gawing ka naming Hero o gawing ka naming Pangulo. Malayong mangyari ang gusto mo. Para kang host ng showbiz na puro tsismis lang ang ginawa mo.

  29. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 9:18 pm

    Ngayon sino pa ang gustong sumira kay Erap?

  30. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 9:20 pm

    Tedanz,

    I don’t believe Erap will be president again.

    The best he can do is to pave the way for good governance of the future. This acting role will suit him to a T.

  31. Diego K. Guerrero - September 14, 2009 9:25 pm

    Re: “Sadly, because we never punish smugglers, the same people who sabotaged our economy during the Estrada regime are the same saboteurs in bed with the present dispensation”.
    Sen. Ping Lacson

    Sleeping with the enemy. Alam ba ni Mrs. itoh? Matagal ng issue ang *rampant smuggling* sa ating bansa, eh’ bakit walang nakukulong?

  32. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 9:27 pm

    AdeBrux,
    Palagay ko din kasi sa dami ang mga nagtu-tulong tulong para sirain yong tao ay wala talaga siyang pag-asa. Naawa lang ako dahil nakulong na at pinardon na siya … ibig sabihin kung may kasalanan siya … nabayaran na niya. Kung bakit pilit nilang sinisiraan yong tao …. hindi mo man lang matanong ang sarili mo … Bakit kaya?

  33. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 9:33 pm

    Tedanz,

    If it’s any consolation to you, I think it’s because politics is a terribly dirty business.

    “There are no permanent friends in politics, only permanent interest.”

    Satur Ocampo himself said that to me two years ago when he came to visit where I sit after I asked him why he and Gloria parted ways when the truth is they were close allies, almost bosom friends, etc. in 2001 to topple Estrada.

  34. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 9:33 pm

    Akala ko ang laban natin ay para mapa-alis ang ngayong naninilbihan na Pangulo ng ating Bayan pero mali yata. Ginagawan yata natin ang pabor ang rehimeng ito para ma-extend pa ang paninilbihan nila.

  35. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 9:42 pm

    That’s why I said, the drama that’s sideline drama going on should not detract the good citizens of the republic from focusing: nail the Arroyos.

  36. Mike - September 14, 2009 10:00 pm

    I don’t think this expos’e of Lacson can affect Erap’s mass base of supporters, if ever.. only the undecided would think otherwise of voting for him, but that doesn’t mean he will get the plum prize that is the presidency. It’s still anybody’s ball game at this point.
    With regards to Lacson, I’m sorry to say this but I think his motive of exposing this is suspect. True or not, I leave it to the best judgement of the bloggers here.

  37. xman - September 14, 2009 10:05 pm

    Let assume that all allegations made by Lacson against Erap is true.

    Who are you going to vote for President?

    Villar — C5 corruption and over P30 billion corruption in housing industry.

    Noynoy — Hacienda Luisita and the coup d’etat by his mother against a constitutionally elected president of the republic. Cory’s apology was accepted by Erap.

    Chiz — Most likely the secret annointed by gloria to protect her and her family in their criminal acts. Remember during the inauguration of Obama, Chiz and pandak were there. Chiz was invited by Obama but not gloria. When Chiz went back to the Philippines there was a very important agenda to be voted by the Senate. Chiz did not show up in the Senate to cast his vote against gloria. There were at least two more instances when Chiz lend his support to gloria.

    Erap — corruptions of Erap…….

  38. The Equalizer - September 14, 2009 10:10 pm

    Vigilance! Vigilance! Vigilance!

    I hope and pray that our beloved country will never have the likes of marcos,erap and gloria again!

    God save our country!

  39. xman - September 14, 2009 10:11 pm

    lend his support….should be lent his support

  40. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 10:23 pm

    xman,
    Kay Gibo Teodoro na ako …. nakita niyo puro oposisyon “kuno” yong nasa listahan mo at may kasiraan na lahat. Si Gibo wala pa.
    Yan ang sinasabi ko …. imbes na ang kalaban ang siraan o pulaan … yong mga oposisyon sila sila na mismo ang nagsisiraan.

  41. kapinoyan - September 14, 2009 10:27 pm

    Hit harder, Senator Lacson! Am rooting for you. Erap knows he will not win as President but has better odds if he runs for VP instead. (He has his own surveys.) Pero dyahi naman for a person of his stature to just run for second fiddle. Obviously therefore, Erap is just posturing as a keen aspirant for President but in truth all he wants is to have a strong leverage so that the candidate whom he will support, Villar or Kabayan, will get Jinggoy as running mate.

    But after Noynoy’s stunning showing in the surveys and Senator Lacson’s privilege speech, La Patria may have been spared from an Erap redux, original or stand-in. Yehey!

  42. xman - September 14, 2009 10:29 pm

    Tedanz, kung kay Gibo ka e di ba bata yan ni pandak.

    Maipakukulong ba ni Gibo si pandak at ang pidal mafia?

  43. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 10:39 pm

    Baka totoo nga na si Lacson ang nagpa-salvage kila Dacer dahil sa gusto niyang maghiganti kay Erap. Baka sinabi kila Mancao na utos ni bigote. Gusto lang niyang umiwas.

  44. The Equalizer - September 14, 2009 10:39 pm

    The World’s Most Corrupt Leaders

    http://mav-equalizer.blogspot.com/2009/02/worlds-all-time-most-corrupt-leaders.html

    Can you guess the third Filipino president who will be included in this exclusive list of world leaders?

  45. Tedanz - September 14, 2009 10:42 pm

    xman,
    Hindi mo ako naintindihan, ang ibig kung sabihin ang mga oposisyon sana ay magkaisa at hindi yong nagsisiraan. Tignan mo ang mga nasa listahan mo … sinira mo na lahat sila.

  46. norpil - September 14, 2009 10:44 pm

    for us pinoys, listening to politicians is more like looking on a painting. either you like the painting or not.if one likes the politician, it does not seem to matter whether what he says is true or not.i think we must go beyond art when dealing with politicians and sometimes change our mind about them.

  47. xman - September 14, 2009 11:04 pm

    Tedanz, yan ang realidad e. Gusto lahat na sabay sabay silang maging presidente. Hindi mo rin masisi sila dahil walang code of honor ang mga politicians, kahit mag pex man pa sila sa isat isa.

  48. luzviminda - September 14, 2009 11:10 pm

    Takot kasi si Lacson na madiin sa Dacer-Corbito kaya nag-traydor na naman. Yan siguro ang kapalit para lumamabot sa kanya ang gobyerno ni Gloria. Namamangka yan sa dalawang ilog. Kapag gipit na, duon siya sa isa. TRAYDOR SI LACSON. TRAYDOR DIN YAN SA BAYAN!!!!

  49. chi - September 14, 2009 11:11 pm

    “…kahit mag pex man pa sila sa isat-isa.” -x-man

    Hehehe, tingnan mo nga at nasilat ni Noynoy si Mar kahit nag pex man sila na best friend daw sila.

    I’d like to see the day when Asspweron would break his “pex man” with Gloria.

  50. luzviminda - September 14, 2009 11:15 pm

    Malaking tanong ang, Bakit ngayon lang? Kung totoo man itong exposè na ito ni Traydor Lacson. Nabigyan siguro ng script ng mga alipores ni Gloria lalo ni DOJ GunggongGonzales dahil hawak nila sila Dumlao na nabigyan na rin ng script. Malaki talaga ang TAKOT NILA KAY ERAP!!!!!!

  51. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 14, 2009 11:16 pm

    Paano yan, e di nagkaalaman na? Ang hirap kasi kay Erap dapa na si Lacson, tinatadyakan pa niya. Ngayon ibinulgar siya, mababawi pa ba yan? Mabubura pa ba yan? Kilala naman ng tao kung sino si Yuchengco, tanugin nila, ng media.

    Pag itinanggi ni Yuchengco, e di nambobola lang si Lacson.

    PAANO KUNG KUMPIRMAHIN NI YUCHENGCO?

  52. luzviminda - September 14, 2009 11:18 pm

    Malaki ang sapantaha ko na tatakbo si ERAP sa pagkapangulo para ipagpatuloy ang naudlot na serbisyo. Also to prove to everybody and convince himself na mahal pa siya ng masa!!!

  53. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 11:19 pm

    Luzviminda,

    Are you positive that Lacson is afraid of Gloria or what Gloria could do to him?

  54. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 11:22 pm

    I don’t think Estrada will be president again.

  55. Diego K. Guerrero - September 14, 2009 11:25 pm

    May sariling *code of honor* ang mga Filipino politicians: Doble-kara at balimbingan. Hindi mo malaman kung saan sila panig. Bayan ba o sariling bituka?

  56. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 11:26 pm

    Tongue,

    Lacson probably had Yuchengko’s assurance that he would confirm… Lacson must have mapped out his plan well before delivering the speech.

  57. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 14, 2009 11:29 pm

    Yan ang hirap pag humaharap ka sa media at nagpapainterview ng nakainom. Nakakapagbitaw ka ng salitang hindi mo na mababawi. Gusto ni Erap malibre sa Dacer-Corbito, inginuso niya si Ping. Ngayong si Ping ang nag-nguso, siya ang traydor? Teka lang.

  58. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 14, 2009 11:34 pm

    I thought so, too, Anna. Lacson has secured Yuchengco’s go signal before naming him in the speech, or else it would have been a blind item.

    I know Lacson has been holding back for too long. The Erap interview was probably the last straw.

  59. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 11:39 pm

    Tongue,

    I was surprised when I read Erap pointing to the direction of Lacson. My take then was Erap was being vengativo for not securing Lacson’s all out support for his renewed ambition.

    If you come down hard, wasn’t Erap commander in chief when the killing happened so if he thought that Lacson had anything to do with it, he should have acted illico; so why is he only talking against his PNP chief today?

  60. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 14, 2009 11:40 pm

    Yun daw 2004 elections kasalanan ni Ping na nagkahati-hati ang oposisyon?

    Walang kasalanan si Ping sa 2004, si Erap ang nagpumilit kay FPJ na hindi naman politiko. Alam na niyang mas naunang nagdeklarang tatakbo si Ping, bendisyon niya lang ang kailangan tapos na si Gloria, pero mas gusto niya sigurong ibalik yung ganansiya niya sa jueteng na hindi papayagan ni Ping kahit suportahan pa niya, kaya ISININGIT niya si FPJ na walang kamuwang-muwang sa politika at gobyerno kayang-kaya niyang diktahan. Hindi si Ping ang humati ng boto. Iboboto na siya ng tao kaya kumuha si Erap ng manok niya na sikat na artista, kahit walang muwang sa politika, pinilit niya si FPJ. Eleksiyon ang laban hindi botohan sa FAMAS diba?

    Yung mga handlers ng kampanya at pondo ni FPJ – sila Angara, Sotto, Gringo, NASAAN?

    Kaninong grupo ang nagtraydor, yung kay Ping o yung kay FPJ?

  61. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 11:43 pm

    Sorry, when did the Dacer killing take place again? I’m perhaps muddling time frame here.

  62. AdeBrux - September 14, 2009 11:48 pm

    Really appreciate your input Tongue, i.e, for putting things in their right perspective. You explain things much better than I do about this traydoran business.

    (Hehe! Until you butted in, I was feeling like a poor lonesome ranger here because I was sticking to my gun that Lacson isn’t traydor.)

  63. Ellen - September 14, 2009 11:58 pm

    Yuchengco had already complained about those shares a few weeks after Edsa Dos. I think he even filed something in court. His claim was that he was coerced.

    But I understand, there was an amicable settlement. I think Pangilinan gave Yuchengco a better deal.

  64. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 12:00 am

    I think Pangilinan gave Yuchengco a better deal.

    Manny Pangilinan?

  65. Ellen - September 15, 2009 12:00 am

    Anna, Dacer was killed November 2000. That was during the impeachment proceedings against Estrada.

    Estrada was ousted January 2001.

  66. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 15, 2009 12:00 am

    Akala ko yung sa Dacer-Corbito lang ang ibubulgar ni Lacson, isinama na pati jueteng at smuggling. Yung binanggit ni Ping na container 20 vans ng chicken parts, regular importation yan, este, smuggling pala. Sa dami ng dumadating na chicken quarters noon, PINATAY yung budding industry na contract growing na ipinauso ng SMC-Magnolia at ng Robina Farms-JG Summit(Gokongwei Group). P50/kilo ang imported, P96/kilo ang local. Sino’ng bibili ng local? Diyan tumabo ng husto ang mga KUMPALE ni Erap sa Clark at Subic – yung Royal Subic Mall at Puregold sa Clark at Subic.

    Siyanga pala, alam na alam ni Lacson iyan dahil malapit si Robina Gokongwei sa kanya simula ng iligtas siya ni Lacson sa mga kidnappers niya. Si Robina ang isa sa mga main financiers ni Lacson sa politika.

    Isa pa si Mark Jimenez, siya ang “bugaw” ng bilihan nila Manny Pangilinan ng Metro Pacific at Tonyboy Cojuangco ng PLDT. Alam na alam na siya ang sugo ni Erap para matuloy ang deal dahil namudmod ng kwarta si MJ noon na balita sa Stock Market na kumita ng Bilyon sa komisyon. Hindi nga malayong NAIPIT si Yuchengco para bitiwan ang stocks niya sa PLDT kapalit ng kasong drug posession ng anak niya.

  67. Ellen - September 15, 2009 12:03 am

    Yes, Anna. Manny Pangilinan of PLDT. I understand Pangilinan raised the compensation for those shares.

  68. Ellen - September 15, 2009 12:07 am

    That was Lucio Co, partner of Jaime Dichavez, who was involved in smuggling.

    Lucio Co. is flourishing even now. Partner of one of the current Malacañang tenants.

    Lucio Co, by the way, was not included in the plunder case against Estrada. Ang balita nagka-ayos sila ni Nani Perez.

    And more importantly, he was able to get one of the Malacañang tenants now as partner in his business.

  69. Ellen - September 15, 2009 12:11 am

    Sinulot ni Mark Jimenez yung PLDT deal from Manny Zamora.
    Here’s the article I did for PCIJ on Estrada’s midnight cabinet:

    The Nocturnal President

    http://www.pcij.org/imag/PublicEye/nocturne.html

  70. luzviminda - September 15, 2009 12:12 am

    Tongue,

    Nagsalita na yung kampo nila Pangilinian na legal at hindi pinilit. Commercially negotiated ( that mans legal) yung transaction at tumubo pa daw ang pamilya Yuchengco.

  71. andres - September 15, 2009 12:13 am

    Election fever is indeed here! The ones who are rejoicing right now are the Erap-bashers because of Lacson’s speech against the person who built him up.

    Two birds with one stone nanaman ang civil society, first, they destroy Erap with the Lacson expose. They were succesful in making them fight through media. Second, the MBC, ABS-CBN and Inquirer trio have been relentless in their propaganda that Noynoy is gaining support.

    Great scenario isn’t it? But who are the happiest persons right now? Gloria, Villar and the Noynoy’s civil society.

    Great timing Panfilo! No wonder the PMA Alumni Association has no good relations with you. They know you too well, right General?

  72. Ellen - September 15, 2009 12:16 am

    Of course, as we recall Estrada’s shenanigans, we don’t forget that his successor, Gloria Arroyo, is worse.

    But just because Arroyo is evil,it doesn’t make Erap an angel.

    That’s why I always say, please enough of Arroyo and Estrada. For 2010, anybody but Arroyo and Estrada.

  73. luzviminda - September 15, 2009 12:17 am

    Anna,

    Palagay ko marami nang kinakatakutan si Lacson kaya ayun parang daga na hindi alam kung saan magtatago! Handa na ring kumanta ng sintunado basta makalusot lang sa mga gusot niya. Di ba ‘blackmail’ kundi man ‘suhol’ ang style na bulok ni Gloria, pero madalas umuubra pa rin hanggang may taong handang ipagpalit ang kalululuwa sa demonyo. Kaya naman di pa rin mapatalsik si Gloria Engkantada dahil matindi ang black magic!

  74. andres - September 15, 2009 12:18 am

    Adebrux,

    So ngayon, hero na si Lacson?

    Bakit kaya hindi siya mabango sa mga PMA alumni at mga kapulisan? Di nyo ba naisip na mas kilala nila ang pagkatao ni Lacson kaya hindi sila malapit dito kahit na kabaro nila?

  75. andres - September 15, 2009 12:23 am

    Panay kayo galit kay Gloria pero pinatulan ninyo itong stunt ni Lacson, sino ngayon ang masaya? Siyempre si Gloria!

  76. Ellen - September 15, 2009 12:25 am

    Oh Mark Jimenez’ role is in another article I did also for PCIJ. Here:

    Marked Man

    http://www.pcij.org/imag/PublicEye/markedman.html

    A portion of the article reads:

    A Malacañang insider says Jimenez is now unpopular because he is too aggressive and has “stepped on so many powerful toes.” These include the foot digits of Manny Zamora, who was said to be displeased when Jimenez cut into the $750-million Philippine Long Distance Telephone Company-First Pacific merger he had been laboring over. Jimenez has also reportedly upset presidential son Jose Victor ‘JV’ Ejercito and his mother, Guia Gomez. It was JV who wrote an e-mail to his friends in August in which Jimenez was described as a “good con artist.” JV added, “I do not exactly like the guy so I might as well not talk about him.” …..

    But Jimenez himself dismisses as “garbage” a rumor going around that when he got his P50 million commission from the PLDT-First Pacific merger, he offered the whole amount to the President. According to the story, Estrada returned the money to him, saying he was entitled to it. Jimenez supposedly refused, saying he “did it for the country.” But he was allegedly prevailed upon to accept P50 million, which he then used to buy a house in an upscale subdivision for one of the President’s special women friends.

  77. andres - September 15, 2009 12:28 am

    Bakit pag kay Erap buhay na buhay ang dugo ng mga tiga media? Pero kay Gloria kid gloves treatment?

  78. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 15, 2009 12:32 am

    Siyempre, aaminin ba ni Pangilinan kung ilegal at pinilit? E di nabawi sa kanya yung PLDT-Smart. Talaga namang tutubo ang mga Yuchengco, ang tawag diyan “violent takeover”. Yun nga lang hindi pa panahon para ibenta nila, napilitan sila.

  79. Ellen - September 15, 2009 12:32 am

    Andres, kid gloves treatment for Gloria?

  80. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 15, 2009 12:36 am

    That was my reply to

    luzviminda – September 15, 2009 12:12 am

    Tongue,

    Nagsalita na yung kampo nila Pangilinian na legal at hindi pinilit. Commercially negotiated ( that mans legal) yung transaction at tumubo pa daw ang pamilya Yuchengco.

  81. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 15, 2009 12:53 am

    ano naman ang kinalaman ng relationship ni Lacson sa PMA with exposing the sins of Erap? Are you saying na dapat pagtakpan iyang kagaguhan ng mga politiko? Na dapat merong vow of silence para paboran ka ng PMA alumni? Pambihira, gusto mong ipagtanggol si Erap sisirain mo pati PMA. Ibig mong sabihin, hindi maganda ang pagtingin ng PMA alumni kay Trillanes dahil ibinulgar niya si Gloria?

    Dapat tayong magpasalamat at matututo na ang mga politikong gumawa ng tama. Problema nila kung hindi sila umayos kasi sa hinaharap, meron pang ibang Ping Lacson ang magbubulgar ng mga anomalya nila.

    Ilayo natin sa mga personalidad ang politika, ilagay natin sa issues. Nagkataon na sa puntong ito, pabor akong ibulgar ni Lacson ang lahat ng katiwaliang alam niya.

    Ngayon, kung totoong may ibubulgar din si Jinggoy e di gawin din niya. Kailangan consistent tayo. Galit tayo pag pinagtatakpan yung katiwalian ni Gloria, ngayong may nagbulgar kay Erap tinatawag nating traydor.

    Dapat i-encourage ang whistleblowers dahil yan lang ang paraang magsisimula ng pagbabalik ng hustisya sa lipunan. Makatarungan bang i-exempt si Erap diyan?

  82. andres - September 15, 2009 12:54 am

    Sana ganun din katapang ang PCIJ at VERA Files kay GMA. Mas lumalabas kasi ang pangil at bangis niyo kay Erap pero kay GMA parang pigil. Lalo na ang Inquirer at ABS!

  83. Mike - September 15, 2009 1:01 am

    Yuchengco would probably confirm Lacson’s allegations. They don’t like Erap in the first place and, they hated him I think. By the way, Isn’t it that Vivian Yuchengco is supportive of Gloria? I remembered that she said a mouthful against the anti-Gloria rally being held at Ayala, Makati.

  84. Phil Cruz - September 15, 2009 1:06 am

    NOW SHOWING –
    “ROBOCOP VS THE DRUNKEN MASTER”
    in
    “THE DUEL”

    This is the first time I’ve seen the Robocop (who usually speaks in a robot monotone) speak with such intense emotions. He is angry. What made him this angry?

    If I recall correctly Robocop was minding his own business preparing to defend himself from the accusations and insinuations of the ghoulish Raul Gonzales et al in the Dacer-Corbito murder case.. Both Robocop and the Drunken Master are suspected of having planned and executed the gruesome murder.

    Then the Drunken Master all of a sudden one day pointed a finger in the direction of the Robocop.. like “there he is, he’s the one. I have nothing to do with it.”

    This really irked Robocop. He plans revenge. Executed it today. He has fired small arms ammo. He has bigger ammo reserved for the next salvos.

    The Drunken Master’s junior pulls himself up front and center and threatens Robocop to stop his lies or he will also be exposed for what he is.

    This is going to be an interesting serial. Is this going to be a fight to the finish? Or will somebody raise a white flag? Suspense! Intrigue!

    Watch…Part 2. That’s today. Screening time: somewhere 4pm. At the Senate Theater.

  85. andres - September 15, 2009 1:24 am

    Tongue,

    Mahirap palang sabihin dito ang mga bagay na hindi ninyo gustong marinig. Masama bang i-share ang info na si Ping Lacson ay hindi gusto ng mga PMAers at mga Pulis? Ano ang ibig sabihin? Diba’t may mali siguro sa pagkatao niya kung ganon?

    Bakit ninyo minamasama ang info, ang sabi ko ipagtanong ninyo sa mga pulis at mga PMAers.

  86. balweg - September 15, 2009 1:25 am

    Nothing new Ping Lacson? Sayang sinira mo ang tiwala namin sa iyo…isa ka palang maginoong-bastos?

    Tuluyan mong sinira ang tiwala ng Masang Pilipino sapagka’t wala kang PANININDIGAN sa sarili kaya di ka dapat maging Pangulo ng bansa?

    Bakit ngayon pa? Yong litanya mo e recycle issues at naikulong na nila si Pangulong Erap sa tulong ni Weteng Lord Sabit Singson.

    Luma nang tugtugin ang ikinanta mo talaga kang wise? Non-sense issues sapagka’t mas masahol ka pa sa asong-gala walang breeding?

    Si Tita Cory e ang daming napatay sa kanyang rehime at the highest human right violations. Si Tabako ang daming kinurap na pera ng bayan at 2nd sa human right violations? At itong si gloria e lahat na ata ng violations e nagawana?

    Ang hina pala ng iyong kukote…si Pang. Erap ng dahil sa Weteng e kukuyugin nýo mga traydor at sinungaling.

    Erase ka na sa memory ng aming hard disk wala kang kwentang tao? Tulad mo din pala ang EDSA DOS evil society, elitists at iba pa na ang pinagdidiskitahan e ang anak ng Weteng pero yong magnanakaw sa kabang-yaman ng bansa e di nýo makanti?

    Wala kayong kwenta…puro pahirap sa bayan?

  87. Phil Cruz - September 15, 2009 1:31 am

    If the two combatants play out their duel, there’s one big loser here.

    And it’s not going to be Ping Lacson. He is no longer running for the presidency.

    The loser is Erap. He will shed off quite a few points in the next presidential survey.. aside from a few pounds from losing appetite and sleep.

  88. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 1:42 am

    I agree with Tongue. We must be consistent.

    If we are thankful for “traydors” who reveal the “baho” of Arroyo and her family, we must be the same towards everyone who denounce corruption committed at every level.

    That’s the only way to kill pariahs in this society.

    As to allegations that PMAers don’t like Lacson, SO BLOODY WHAT? SO FRIGGING WHAT? Ping Lacson can take care of himself. He’s a big boy. He’s proven it so why don’t those at PMA who don’t like him come out and challenge him to a public duel? How do you know that they perhaps dislike him precisely because he won’t compromise with them?

    (For your info, I know a lot of PMAers, plenty of them — and true, some of them don’t like him particularly those who were at the major service command level; the main reason of those who don’t like him is because they say Lacson is uncompromising and suplado. So bloody what? Many of them who are in power today know that they stand no chance with Lacson if they insist on their crookedness.)

    I said earlier on, if we could have more “traydors” of the Ping Lacson variety, so be it….

  89. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 1:42 am

    Spot on Phil Cruz!

  90. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 1:44 am

    Pity that Lacson couldn’t hack it for the presidency… But that’s water under the bridge.

    Matira ang matibay.

  91. balweg - September 15, 2009 1:45 am

    Adebrux, So ngayon, hero na si Lacson?

    Igan Andres…lalo lang ibinaon ni Pin Lason ang kanyang sarili sa galit ng Masang Pilipino?

    Not ONCE, But TWICE…lumabas din ang TOTOO ang kulay ni Ping L.? Kaya pala tinalo sina FPJ/ERAP e pakawala pala yan ng rehime, akala mo ang tino kung bumanat sa senador pero pasasakayin ka lang pala at saka mag re-reverse, yon lumabas talaga ang tunay niyang hasang.

    Yari siya ngayon at for sure maglalabasan ang kanyang baho sapagka’t maraming kaluluwa ang nakakaalam sa tunay niyang pagkatao.

    Pinag-iinitan nila ang WETENG na pangtawid sa gutom ng mga Maralitang Pinoy at halos lahat naman e nakikinabang…pero yong pera ng bayan na kanilang pinagpaparti-partihan e tikom ang kanilang bibig at pag hustisya ang pinag-usapan ang ombudsama e walang say?

    Lumbas din ang katotohanan na gusto nilang patayin ang mga Maralitang Pinoy na walang ibang inaasahan e ang WETENG at bakit nila ito pinag-iinitan…wala naman silang maibigay na trabaho, paano yan mabubuhay at maitataguyod ang pamilya?

    Pero yong mga magnanakaw at kurap e milyones ang ibinubulsa at winawaldas pero may nakasuhan ba? Si Pangulong Erap e ikinulong nila ng dahil sa WETENG?

  92. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 1:46 am

    Don’t be so blinded by your loyalty to Erap that you no longer can see what is fair, just and what is right from wrong!

  93. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 1:50 am

    Balweg,

    That’s where I differ from a lot of my kababayans — I refuse to brand a public official, civil servant, or an elected person a hero.

    And I certainly won’t tag Lacson a hero because to me what he did is normal.

    My standards for heroism are high.

  94. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 1:56 am

    Kaya pala tinalo sina FPJ/ERAP e pakawala pala yan ng rehime,

    That’s gratuitous Balweg… that’s rumor mongering.

    akala mo ang tino kung bumanat sa senador pero pasasakayin ka lang pala at saka mag re-reverse, yon lumabas talaga ang tunay niyang hasang.

    Hang on a minute… sino ba ANG NAGUMPISA na mag-denounce in relation to the publicist’s murder? Si Ping ba o si Erap. Hindi ba si Erap ang UNANG nagsabing si Ping ang may responsabilidad sa pagpatay kay Dacer?

    Halo halo na ah…

    Be honest, Balweg, what did you expect Ping to do? Take Erap’s allegations sitting down? And if he takes it sitting down, everyone will say Erap’s allegations are true but if he denies it, he is called traydor to Erap — eh ano ba yan?

  95. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 1:58 am

    Si Pangulong Erap e ikinulong nila ng dahil sa WETENG?

    Hang on a minute — si Ping Lacson ba ang nagpakulong kay Erap? Bakit puro halo halo ang usapan ngayon.

  96. Phil Cruz - September 15, 2009 2:05 am

    Several years back when Ping Lacson was recruited by Erap to be PNP Chief, I heard so many horror stories about the man. Stories that would make one cringe at his reported ruthlessness.

    And so I was biased against this seemingly unfeeling, robot-like human.

    But as the years passed, and especially since he became a senator, I saw another side of him. He was consistent, steadfast, fearless and the most aggressive in standing up and exposing the corruption of the Arroyos. None has equalled his performance in this regard. Not even Pimentel.

    And for this, I take my hat off to him.

    As for those reported human rights violations he has allegedly committed, well, that remains to be seen. Time will tell.. as evidence is brought out and proven.

  97. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 2:15 am

    Several years back when Ping Lacson was recruited by Erap to be PNP Chief, I heard so many horror stories about the man. Stories that would make one cringe at his reported ruthlessness.

    Phil, I had the same sentiment about him back in the mid 90s or at the height of the kuratong baleleng stories. I remember speaking to one of his direct lowerclass who later on became a major service commander. I told the latter that I was shocked that the man should even be seconded to Erap’s special police force (can’t rememnber the agency) when Erap was VP. Lacson’s PMA underling said, they in the military approved it.

    My opinion of Lacson changed over the years to the better — I supposed I was a bit influenced by the incessant bad mouthing of him by some of Erap’s cabinet members. I was surprised that they would say evil of him because he refused to compromise about bribes, etc. Good world in the reverse!

    Fast forward. A few years later in 2004, I told this underling who was already a major service commander, that I was voting for Lacson. He made a 180° turn and said, Lacson was no longer in his good graces because “hindi marunong makisama!” (Obviously, the term “makisama” here had a different connotation!)

    What a laugh!

  98. Phil Cruz - September 15, 2009 2:30 am

    AdeBrux,

    Another facet of him that I learned to respect is that he is not wishy-washy. Very sure and definite with his decisions. Seldom changes his mind, if ever, when he makes a decision or decides on a course of action. Very deliberate.

  99. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 2:33 am

    Agree, Phil!

  100. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 2:37 am

    I’m aware that Robert Aventajado, flagship sec to Erap couldn’t stand him for not being flexible (just as you say.)

  101. Phil Cruz - September 15, 2009 2:37 am

    Gnyt, AdeBrux. Exciting day tomorrow. Or today rather.

  102. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 2:38 am

    Nite, nite Phil!

  103. balweg - September 15, 2009 3:14 am

    I said earlier on, if we could have more “traydors” of the Ping Lacson variety, so be it….

    Kgg. AdeBrux, i know somebody na dating tauhan ni Ping L. at isa itong pamangkin ng isang Heneral at bayaan mo magtatanong-tanong tayo about the real character ng maginoong-bastos na ito?

    Ngayon pa…naipakulong na nila si Pres. Erap at muli niyang binubuhay ang multo ng WETENG ni Sabit Singson?

    Natanggap na nang Masang Pilipino who’s Pres. Erap at ngayon nga e lalo nila itong minahal…kita namn ang ebidensiya.

    Naluklok sa senado si Sen. Loi at Jinggoy, Noynoy, Trillanes at marami pang iba na walang utang na loob?

    Sa hilatsa ng pagmumukha ni Ping L. e nagkatotoo ang duda ng Masang Pilipino na hinudas nito si FPJ? Kunyari pa siya pero isa pala siyang hunyango at dugong-wolf?

  104. masha - September 15, 2009 3:19 am

    tama yan, ilabas niyo ang baho ng isa’t isa na malaman ng taong bayan. neither ping nor erap is lily-pure so let’s hear it all.

  105. masha - September 15, 2009 3:23 am

    constitutional lawyers should look into eligibility of estrada to run again.

    i dont think he’s serious though. he just wants protection from noynoy so he can go on his merry corrupt way. or he wants to foist his son as noy’s running mate. erap is devious, cynical and a big effing fraud. the country needs to dump his a** big time.

  106. grizzy - September 15, 2009 3:27 am

    Sabi ko nga pare-pareho lang naman itong mga mahihilig tumakbo para pumalit doon sa magnanakaw sa Malacanang! Asuuuuus!

    Tama naman si Erap, why only now, Ping Lacson! Gosh, may dugong aso din ba iyan?

    On the other hand, ito ring si Erap, magulo rin. May katotohanan iyong sinabi ni Lacson na may kurakot din si Erap, at saka tama din si Ellen nang sinabi niyang walang sense of right and wrong si Erap.

    Sinabi na ngang di siya puedeng tumakbo dahil may conviction siya. Gumawa na lang siya ng mga documentaries tungkol sa graft and corruption sa Pilipinas, baka may matutunan pa ang mga kababayan niya. Tigas talaga ng ulo!!!

  107. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 3:28 am

    I understand your reaction Balweg: you are angry.

    I have constantly defended both individuals in various posts here; my numerous letters that were published in various Malaya columns in the Tribune’s letters to the editor will prove that I have always been steadfast in my defence of Erap — not because he is Erap but because he was the duly elected president of the Philippines who was toppled most illegaly. That those who committed that atrocity against the presidency, in my opinion, violated the Constitution. That is my unflinching belief. It’s a question of principles.

    I have made my stand just as you have made yours. Between Erap and Lacson, I will believe Lacson.

  108. grizzy - September 15, 2009 3:32 am

    Balweg,

    Walang utang na loob si Sonny Trillanes kay Erap. Sa mga bumoto sa kaniya siya may utang na loob. Nanalo si Sonny kasi may sense ang mga pinagsasabi niya at siya ang tunay na Opposition laban doon sa magnanakaw na sinungaling pa.

    Please, puede ba tama na ang pagbibigay ng papuri kay Erap? Mismong sarili niya di naman niya naipagtanggol sa totoo lang.

  109. Mike - September 15, 2009 3:37 am

    Dapat ibahin ang strategy nila kay Erap. Mukhang di kakagatin ng kanyang mga supporters ang mga banat sa kanilang idol katulad ng ginawa ni Lacson. They tried to do that to him in ’98, it didn’t work. I don’t think it will work now. Sabi nga ni Grizzy matigas ang ulo ni Erap.
    I remember the story of the wind and the sun:

    “The Wind and the Sun were disputing which was the stronger. Suddenly they saw a traveller coming down the road, and the Sun said: “I see a way to decide our dispute. Whichever of us can cause that traveller to take off his cloak shall be regarded as the stronger. You begin.” So the Sun retired behind a cloud, and the Wind began to blow as hard as it could upon the traveller. But the harder he blew the more closely did the traveller wrap his cloak round him, till at last the Wind had to give up in despair. Then the Sun came out and shone in all his glory upon the traveller, who soon found it too hot to walk with his cloak on.” :)

  110. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 3:43 am

    Allow me to rehash a Malcolm X line:

    You are not to be blinded by your loyalty to Erap; wrong is wrong whoever says or does it.

  111. Mike - September 15, 2009 3:44 am

    @AdeBrux: “I have made my stand just as you have made yours. Between Erap and Lacson, I will believe Lacson.”

    Mine is none of the above. :)

  112. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 3:47 am

    Good night, folks and members of Ellenville… don’t let this Erap-Lacson duel bury the corruption issues against Gloria.

    Nailing the Arroyos is more important than the Erap-Lacson battle today. We must remain focused.

    Cheers. I leave the floor to Yuko (heh!)

  113. parasabayan - September 15, 2009 3:51 am

    Crimes committed have no statute of limitation. If Lacson did not talk negatively about Erap in the past, it does not mean Erap is clean. Lacson has a military backgound, follow first before you complain. If the Dacer-Corbito case is not being blamed on him, he may carried all these baggages to his grave. He had no reason to turn against Erap in the past except for putting him in the doghouse. Now that Lacson is being blamed for murders. Iba na ito! Kung ako si Lacson I would have done the same thing too! Kaya nga, those in powet who think that they can get away with murder, stealing, lying and more, they should think again! There will always be “Lacson-like” amongst them. Once cornered, one will have to spill the beans! Can’t blame Lacson for his actions now. He has to save his skin. What is best for him is to tell the truth the best he can. The truth will set him free!

  114. chi - September 15, 2009 3:59 am

    Kung hindi nagnakaw ng pwesto si Gloria, tapos na sana si Erap ayon sa Konstitusyon.

    Kung hindi nandaya si Gloria noong 2004 ay wala siya ngayon bilang pekeng pangulo. At kung sakali man na lumaban siya kay FPJ nung 2004 at nanalo ng malinis ay tapos na rin sana ang kanyang termino sa katanghalian ng June 30, ayon din sa Konstitusyon.

    In short, si Gloria Arroyo ang isyu! Ang unana ang masaya at natatabunan ang kanilang mga kababuyan. Si Mikey ay nagdadasal na huwag tapusin ni Ping ang birada kay Erap.

    Maganda ang expose ni Lacson, kung maituturing na ganun nga, para sa mga bloggers at mga pinoy na independent minded. Pero agree ako kay Mike na wala iyang epek sa mga Erapians.

  115. parasabayan - September 15, 2009 4:03 am

    Coorrection: power not powet.

  116. parasabayan - September 15, 2009 4:20 am

    Erap’s “maka-masa” brand does not necessarily mean he is crime free.

    The masa usually do not read the papers nor watch the tv and not even listen to the radio. They just know that Erap goes and shakes hands with them in the “pagpapasalamat” lakbay. To the masa, Erap can not hurt a fly. This explains his popularity in the C,D and E classes.

    I welcome all the exposes. This is the only way to deter criminals from following his footsteps while they are in power (stolen at that!). If you commit a crime, you have to serve time in jail or in exile. If Erap really grossly abused his power when he was a sitting president, maybe his detention in his Tanay rest house (which to me was not a punishement) is not enough. Murder is a very serious offense! Tama si Ping in this regard. Pipigilan ko ang pagpapalukok uli kay Erap, if indeed he is guilty. Why will I put Erap back in power?

  117. parasabayan - September 15, 2009 4:27 am

    Chi, tama ka. Nakangisi na naman yung may bangaw sa mukha at peke and boobs dahil natabunan na naman yung issue ng anak niyang si Mikey. Kung minsan, naiisip ko na in cahoots ang lahat ng mga nakaupo. They just follow where the money and power would be. Nagiging puppets lang sila. If the situation favors them, tameme lang sila. If it does not, they become whistle blowers.

  118. totingmulto - September 15, 2009 5:33 am

    Because of the rice smuggling in mindanao, maraming magsasaka ang lalong lubog sa utang at kahirapan. Smuggled rice ( premium quality) were sold at a very very cheap price at ang ating local rice ay nilangaw. The poor farmer had to lower the price ( break even) just to pay his debts to suppliers of fertilizers and loan sharks. And these bastards delivered the rice in local ports before the very eyes of customs officials and the public. Paano…untouchable daw.
    Ang mga mahihirap ay lalong naghihirap.

  119. Tedanz - September 15, 2009 5:55 am

    “Si Mikey ay nagdadasal na huwag tapusin ni Ping ang birada kay Erap” —- chi
    Kaya nga tuwang tuwa si Lacson ….. mucho dinero na siya. Akala niya machong macho siya sa ginawa niya …. beeeee Bakla!!!!!
    Bata ni Glorya yan mula pa nung eleksiyon ng 2004. Siguro napartehan yan doon sa fertilizer scam. Saan naman magnanakaw yan ng gagastusin niya noon, wala naman siyang maraming kaibigan na mayayaman.

  120. Tedanz - September 15, 2009 6:00 am

    Ang problema Mr. Lacson ay si Glorya hindi si Erap. Kahit sa atin din dito, siya talaga ang problema. Si Erap kung lalaban man yan, lalaban ng parehas. Hindi natin alam kung siya ay mananalo o hindi. Hayaan lang natin yong mga Presidentiables na mag-uusap usap huwag yong tayo ay sasali pa. Ikaw Mr. Lacson ay bumitaw na kaya puwede ba tumahimik ka na lang. Wag yong putak ng putak. Intendiye Mr. Lacson!!!!!

  121. neonate - September 15, 2009 7:02 am

    So much sleaze pouring out here hones my anticipation for more tits and the retaliatory tats. Meanwhile, my hats off to AdeBrux and Tongue for observing debate rules, a method that seems contagious.

  122. grizzy - September 15, 2009 7:34 am

    Yabang din kasi ni Erap. Pirming pinagmamalaki iyong mga fans niyang wala namang nagawa/magawa. Look, kaibigan niyang si FPJ pinahamak niyang pumasok sa politika, nang mahikayat, pinabayaan pa nilang mabastos ang kampanya, although amenado at hanga doon sa mga tumulong na matupad ng tao ang pangako sa sariling di magsasayang ng pera sa mga walang kabuluhang kampanya. Ano? Di ba binastos pa on the way iyong taong halos mapikon na nga sa ginawang pambababoy mismo noong mga mapagsamantalang kasama.

    Sa totoo lang, si Senator Pimental lang ang narinig kong pumuri kay FPJ after watching the guy do his part and share in the campaign then. Iyong iba kasama pa sa pambabastos sa kaniya especially iyong mga unggoy na kumabit pa doon sa magnanakaw after that fateful election na lalong nasadlak ang Pilipinas sa kumunoy. Namatay tuloy ang taong dinaya! In fact, di lang dinaya, nilait pa kasi di daw college graduate!

    So what? Iyong nakaupo nga ngayon may Doctorate degree pa kuno, magnanakaw naman sinungaling pa! Sino ngayon ang mas marangal! Puro yabang lang kasi ang alam kaya iyong bansa nila di na umasenso!!!

  123. grizzy - September 15, 2009 7:35 am

    …amenado at hanga ako….

  124. grizzy - September 15, 2009 7:43 am

    Sa amin kasi walang mangmang. Kahit di makatungtong ng kolehiyo, di nilalait dahil may utak nga naman at may kaalaman.

    Dito kahit may kapansanan sa utak gaya noong mga ipinanganak na may cerebral palsy, etc. di nilalait na sira ang ulo. Binibigyan ng edukasyon at pinagyayaman ang makakaya nila. Binibigyan sila ng trabahong kaya nila para di sila pasanin.

    Sa Pilipinas, hanggang ngayon marami pa rin ang di nakatungtong ng eskuwela. Tapos iyong mga anak ng mga magnanakaw, aral sa mga mission schools, etc. pero ano ang ginagawa?

    Big-time mga magnanakaw, babaero/lalakero, etc. na mga kasalanang labag sa utos ng Diyos na dapat alam nila dahil galing sila sa mga paaralan ng mga madre at pareng dapat nagtuturo sa kanilang matakot sa Diyos.

    Kawawang Pilipinas talaga!

  125. totingmulto - September 15, 2009 7:43 am

    Mabuhay kayong lahat na nagsisiwalat sa mga katarantaduhan ng ating mga lider. Traydor sa amo, tapat naman sa bayan.

    Oust gloria. No to trapos!

  126. grizzy - September 15, 2009 7:57 am

    O sige na nga. Wow, speech! Puro ganyan lang naman si Lacson, expose kuno! Pero lacking in substance kasi lahat ng ginagawa puro publicity stunt!

    Sorry, guys, but I am not impressed kasi kung ako siya, matagal ko nang binulgar si Erap kung ganoon pala kasama at kagago ang taong iyan. Kahit kapatid ko kasi di ko ito-tolerate kung gumagawa ng kahayupan! But then, of course, di naman ako si Lacson. Di naman kasi ako nag-a-ambisyon maging sikat!

  127. grizzy - September 15, 2009 8:21 am

    Nailing the Arroyos is more important than the Erap-Lacson battle today. We must remain focused.

    Sinabi mo pa, Anna. But what Lacson did made Gloria Kulimbat jumped with joy!!! Job well done!

  128. grizzy - September 15, 2009 9:27 am

    Ako sa totoo lang, ayoko ko kay Erap when he ran for the presidency dahil alam kong masusumpa ang Pilipinas pagnagkataon because of his philandering and fornications, etc., pero siya ang ibinoto ng mga pilipino, and frankly speaking, he was trying to do his best for the poor even when he was doing those illegal acts on the side like accepting bribes from jueteng lords, etc.

    Wala siyang nanakaw sa kaban, that’s for sure, not because he was honest and clean, but because there was practically nothing to steal. Still, he did not attempt for instance to sell the Philippine patrimonies in Japan just to have something to fatten his pockets with, di gaya nitong si Gloria Kulimbat na ninakaw na yata lahat ng ari-arian ng Pilipinas kahit na iyong in principle, by law, she cannot and should not sell and squander.

    At saka pag nabisto, tinitigil naman. Kaya nga hindi ako bilib sa mga sinasabi ni Lacson!

  129. grizzy - September 15, 2009 9:34 am

    BTW, bakit tinatawag pa ni Lacson na “Mr. President” si Erap e di naman na presidente iyan. Sa amin kasi kung gusto namin bigyan ng importansya for instance ang aming former prime minister, nilalagyan namin ng “Ex” ang title niya as in Ex-Prime Minister to distinguish them from the incumbent. Kung sabagay iyon ngang kriminal tinatawag na “President” sa Pilipinas.

    Talaga naman ang tatakaw sa mga titles! This reminds me of a former customer of mine who insisted na lagyan ko ng “Dr.” iyong pangalan niya sa ticket niya, pero sabi ko sa kaniya, puede lang Mr./Mrs/Ms/Miss ang ilalagay. Aba nagalit pa inutil! Pero di siya nakalusot kasi rule is rule. Di puede ang kapritso niya!

  130. grizzy - September 15, 2009 9:37 am

    Sa totoo lang, malakas ang loob ni Erap kasi maraming yumaman ng umupo siya. Akala niya iyong pinayaman niya faithful sa kaniya at ipagtatanggol siya pero nasaan sila? Si FPJ lang talaga ang lumabas na talagang kaibigan niya. Napahamak pa!

    Daming galing sa Tokyo in fact na in-appoint ni Erap. Pinabayaan pa niyang makanakaw sa totoo lang. Pero binalimbing din siya! Kawawa rin sa isang banda. Pero sabi nga ni Ellen, isa pa si Erap na hindi marunong mag-distinguish ng masama sa mabuti, tama at mali!

  131. Mike - September 15, 2009 9:45 am

    “I don’t know what his motives are. If he’s telling the truth, why did he have to wait for nine years… If he has evidence, he should have divulged them when I was on trial at the Sandiganbayan. His motive might be because he sees me near the top of the surveys for the presidency?” – Erap

  132. Mike - September 15, 2009 9:50 am

    I remembered Ramon Tulfo’s column about a year ago. He said someone told him that Lacson threatened to spill the beans on Erap and would personally jail him if he was not made PNP chief. Tulfo would mention this several times when Lacson is in the headline news.

  133. Golberg - September 15, 2009 9:56 am

    Ito yung tsismis na nabanggit ko sa isang issue ngayon “Mag-ingat sa tsismis”
    Gumawa siya ng tsismis tungkol kay Erap, e bakit tinigilan niya yung tsismis niya tungkol kay Jose Pidal at kay Vicky Toh? O baka naman nabigyan din siyan nitong si Toh? Totoo kaya itoh?
    Nakulong si Erap. Dapat habang nakakulong ginawa na niya iyang tsismis niya. Di sana nakalabas pa ng kulungan si Erap. Baka pati yung pagkamatay ng kapit bahay namin e idamay ang pangalan ni Erap.
    Sinabi niya corrupt daw si Erap. Small time. Yung naka-upo ngayon sa pwesto sa pamamagitan din ng tsismis ay isang super big time super dooper na corrupt. Pati mga kilalang kriminal ginawang mga anak. Wala siyang pnagkaiba kay Cardinal Sin. Walang prinsipyo. Alam na pala niyang corrupt yung presidente niya bakit di siya nag coup de etat noon pa?
    Di mo malaman tuloy kung ito ay isang katangahan o isang kagaguhan.

  134. grizzy - September 15, 2009 10:00 am

    Di mo malaman tuloy kung ito ay isang katangahan o isang kagaguhan.

    Nope, it is more nananga at nanggagago, at talagang tanga at gago na ang bibilib pa sa isang ito na puro expose lang kuno wala namang nangyayari!!! Pwe!!!! :-@

  135. Mike - September 15, 2009 10:01 am

    NO COERCION

    PLDT director Ray C. Espinosa defended the transaction between First Pacific Co. Ltd. and the Yuchengco family over the PTIC shares.

    http://www.malaya.com.ph/sep15/news2.htm

  136. jojovelas2005 - September 15, 2009 10:04 am

    Alam niya palang masama bakit humingi pa siya ng endorsement last election at 2001. Six years nagkaroon ng kaso sa SC sana doon palang sinabi na niya ang nalalaman.
    Sabihin na rin niya kung sino yun mga subordinates ng PAOCTF na sinasabi niya.

  137. mbw - September 15, 2009 10:05 am

    if i were a politician, I would do what is right. fanatics of any camps will really call me names for squealing.

    Now, Pilate had asked Jesus “what is Truth? Is your Truth the same as mine?” to put another word for it “what is Righteous Is your concept of Righteousness the same as mine?”

  138. Golberg - September 15, 2009 10:07 am

    Kung ito ay mailalathala sa mga magazine, malaki ang kita ng editor in chief dito. Magandang tsismis. Tsismis ng isang taong walang prinsipyo.

  139. florry - September 15, 2009 10:29 am

    Hell hath no fury like a Ping spurned.

    Ping cannot claim that he has no motive in going after Estrada. After all he already withdrew his candidacy. But that’s not so. He asked Erap to follow his lead and endorse Noynoy, but was rejected and rightly so. The people around Noynoy and that includes Ping are the same people who designed his downfall pagkatapos kasama sama mo sila. Ang sakit naman niyon.

    Maybe, the mission of Ping from the LP is to demolish Erap. He is in the best position and a tailored-fit assignment for him as he no longer running for the presidency. They know that Erap is still a formidable force and his chances of winning cannot be underestimated. It’s even acknowledged by de Quiros an Aquino supporter who practically begged him to drop out and endorse Aquino. But as to Erap it’s a no deal and non negotiable.

    Everybody now knows what Ping did. He turned out to be a fire-breathing and a vengeful-like woman who was just dumped by her boyfriend. Right, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned,

    And with it comes his entitlement to whatever reward for his performance. He earned it and deserved it.

  140. florry - September 15, 2009 10:40 am

    The one thing you may admire about Ping is he likes to make exposes.

    The other thing that will make you hate him is you never see the light of day in all his exposes.

    Tuloy ang mga tao nabibitin na nakanganga at nakatunganga.

  141. Mike - September 15, 2009 12:10 pm

    Yuchengco confirms being forced to sell PLDT stake

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/09/15/09/yuchengco-confirms-being-forced-sell-pldt-stake

  142. parasabayan - September 15, 2009 12:21 pm

    The drama heats up! Ping should get his witnessess too on the allegations that Erap was by-passing him and directly went to his men. Lagot si Erap ngayon. Crime does not pay, that is if really did what Ping said he did. Baka naman demolition job lang ito. I hope not.

    Di ba si Yuchengco eh friend ni boobuwit? Do not tell me na si Ping may now be in boobuwit’s camp. Naguguluhan ako!

  143. Phil Cruz - September 15, 2009 12:32 pm

    To be fair to Ping Lacson, his exposes led to several impeachment tries against Gloria. Unfortunately, Gloria’s for-sale minions in the Lower House stopped those impeachment moves cold.

    And the offices of the DOJ and the Ombudsman certainly did not help any.

    And in the Senate, the Blue Ribbon Committee was not that cooperative, too.

  144. parasabayan - September 15, 2009 12:38 pm

    If indeed this is true about Erap eh, si sabit eh santo…heh,heh,heh.

  145. Tilamsik - September 15, 2009 12:54 pm

    Ellen – September 15, 2009 12:16 am

    Of course, as we recall Estrada’s shenanigans, we don’t forget that his successor, Gloria Arroyo, is worse.

    But just because Arroyo is evil,it doesn’t make Erap an angel….

    *************

    Very Good..!!!

  146. Tilamsik - September 15, 2009 12:57 pm

    Dapat sana mag retiro na si Erap. He is more than vendicated already his son and wife (original) won the senatorial race. He should retire and enjoy the setting sun.

  147. grizzy - September 15, 2009 1:24 pm

    Protector ba ni Al Yuchengco si Ping? Wow, malaki ang bayad niyan tiyak! Magaling magbayad ang mamang iyan ng mga sasaludo sa kaniya sabi da.

    Galit iyan kay Erap I know. Nang manalo si Erap, diretsahan sinabi niyan na di siya magtitiyagang maging ambassasdor sa administration ni bigote. Di lang kasi niya mapintasan na babaero kasi baka matapilok siya.

    Kaibigan at supporter iyan ni Kulimbat. Just don’t know kung magkano ang abuloy niya doon sa campaign fund na kinokolekta sa LT Bldg sa Makati. Put 2 and 2 together, alam na ninyo kung sino ngayon ang patron ni Lacson.

    In short, walang tulak kabigin! Kawawang bansa!

  148. grizzy - September 15, 2009 1:26 pm

    Kng ayaw ni Erap na mag-retire, puede naman siyang mag-ala-Michael Moore. Baka hangaan ko pa siya! :-P

  149. Mike - September 15, 2009 1:32 pm

    I for one agree with Lacson should not run for president anymore, coz as I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Erap had his chance, and he blew it. He has no one to blame but himself for being ousted. His claims that it was a conspiracy of the elite, the church, etc… that toppled him is true, I believe that it was a coup and not people’s power as some have claimed. But if he had kept his nose clean during his stint as the prez., there will be no issues against him. And if he is clean, the conspirators then, will have a hard time convincing the military as well as the people of Metro Manila to rally against him.

    As for Lacson, since it took him nine years to expose the “rotteness” of Erap. He also asked for Erap’s endorsement during his run for the presidency in 2004 and the senate in 2007, if he knew Erap to be a bully and a scumbag, why asked for his endorsement in the first place? People, me included, are doubtful of his intentions of coming out with his expos’e. I think, personally, it has something to do with the Dacer-Corbito case. The family of Dacer is convinced that Lacson has a hand in the twin murder.

    I’m just wondering what Jinggoy will tell in his privilege speech regarding Lacson’s “dark side”. Abangan nalang natin ang susunod na kabanata.

  150. Mike - September 15, 2009 1:34 pm

    “I for one agree with Lacson that Erap should not run for president anymore…”

  151. xman - September 15, 2009 1:58 pm

    Bakit takot na takot ang mga tao na tumakbo si Erap? Dahil alam nila na siguradong panalo si Erap hands down kung walang dayaan sa computerized cheating.

    ———xxxx———

    And if he(Erap) is clean, the conspirators then, will have a hard time convincing the military as well as the people of Metro Manila to rally against him.—Mike

    Mike, do you think if Pres. Estrada is generous in giving kurakot money worth billions of pesos to the generals, like pandak is doing to her generals, do you think Erap will be unconstitutionally ousted? Pera pera lang yan.

    People of Metro Manila rallied against him? For your info, the majority of the people that attended the rally were students from catholic schools hauled by cardinal sin. The evil yellow media like abs-cbn and inquirer created a false perception that people were rallying against Erap.

  152. Mike - September 15, 2009 2:12 pm

    xman,

    That’s what Erap lacks, generosity, gusto niya kanya lahat. Gloria’s asset is her generosity towards her protectors; general, tongressmen, obudsman, justices, etc…

  153. MPRivera - September 15, 2009 2:21 pm

    Sino ba sa atin ang walang bahid dungis? Ang tunay na busilak ang pagkatao at karangalan?

    May punto si Sen Lacson, subalit mali ang pagkakataon na kanyang pinili upang ilantad ang kanyang mga nalalaman. Iisipin tuloy ng iba na siya ay ginagamit ng kasalukuyang bulok na pamunuan kahit hindi totoo.

    Walang lumulundag sa tuwa at galak kundi ang kampo ng mga malignong pandak!

  154. chi - September 15, 2009 8:17 pm

    MPR, kaya ang mga Erapians sa aming baryo ay hindi natitinag dahil sa “timing”, mas umikot pa ang kanilang imahinasyon sa tanong na “bakit ngayon?”.

    Pero sa akin, basta katotohanan ang mensahe ay walang timing na dapat ikonsidera, lahat ng oras ay para sa truth. Si Ping lang ang nakakaalam kung ang kanyang ibinubulgar ay tanging para lang sa katotohanan o may pansariling interes na motibo. I’m taking his expose openly.

  155. grizzy - September 15, 2009 8:28 pm

    Sinong takot na tumakbo si Erap? Sino pa e di Gloria Kulimbat at mga katulad niya. But I doubt na mananalo pa siya unless hawakan niya iyong mga kurakot sa COMELEC. Pataasan sila ni Gloria Kulimbat ng pangsuhol. Tiyak talo siya!

    May they rest in peace na lang sana!

  156. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 8:33 pm

    Yuko,

    “Protector ba ni Al Yuchengco si Ping? Wow, malaki ang bayad niyan tiyak!”

    YOU ARE RUMOUR MONGERING! How do you know he was paid? I expect you, one of those commenters here with better judgement of people to come up with less sleaze!

  157. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 8:34 pm

    MPR,

    May punto si Sen Lacson, subalit mali ang pagkakataon na kanyang pinili upang ilantad ang kanyang mga nalalaman.

    I think it’s because Erap had singled him out as the one responsible for the murder of the publicist.

    Question is why did Erap do it today and same question as yours, why only NOW???

  158. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 8:35 pm

    agree with Ellen,

    “But just because Arroyo is evil,it doesn’t make Erap an angel….”

  159. mbw - September 15, 2009 9:47 pm

    I, for one, would not like erap back in Malacanang. Before he was impeached, even my own mother (who is not wont to make idle tsismis) had met one his mistresses living in Ayala Alabang. ONE lang ito at hindi pa yung popular! Diyosme! as the saying goes “you can never teach an old dog new tricks”! If erap comes back as elected president—i will have no words for the filipino people.

  160. monsagullo - September 15, 2009 10:41 pm

    Tedanz – “Bakit hindi na lang si Erap ang idiniin dito sa kasong ito.”

    Hindi kaya kasi hindi hamak na mas maraming milyon, kung hindi bilyon si Erap?

    “There is the good reason and the real reason” ika nga ni Soren Kierkegaard, The good reason in Ping Lacson’s disclosure is, inasmuch as we (at least here in this blog) all wish GMA out of Malacanang ASAP, we cannot do this at the expense of having Erap back, di po ba?

    From my own biased views, GMA is a much “better” pretender and usurper, at least kita halos ng lahat agad-agad na ganito nga siya. Had FPJ won and lived to be the president, the distinct possibility of Erap having an equally popular if not more popular “ACTor” as “proxy,” if not outright “kabakas,” would have been a lot worst. The “masa” would have stood by and defended FPJ against anyone who would have gone against the guy.

    Of course, this is “mere supposition.” FPJ cannot defend himself, so I cannot accuse of him of “what he could have done.”

    At least I am more comfortable with the fact that dealing with GMA is plain and simple. And does not involve the risk of “social division” in addressing what we believe besets the country.

    As to the real reason why Sen. Ping Lacson did what he did this close to 2010, your guess could be much better than mine. What I do know is, jueteng indeed runs the greater part of who gets to sit (mayor, governor, PNP provincial director, et al).

    If in the smallest way this “bomb” from Sen. Ping Lacson can prevent an Erap comeback, for that, I’d say thank you.

    Yet the bottom line is – this expose IS an integral part of politics as we know it. Waste of space to quote here the “definitions” of what realpolitik is. Interesting read as awlays, except that the victims in this “drama” – the Filipino people – have to continue going through the very real net effect of all these.

    Sabi nga ni BGen. Dany Lim – his incarceration is a political issue. Erap’s conviction is a political issue. GMA’s being given a State welcome by Obama is a political decision.

    We can at least thank Erap for giving the simple truth about politics – “weather weather lang yan.”

  161. xman - September 15, 2009 11:09 pm

    Erap — weather weather lang yan

    Villar — pera pera lang yan

    Noynoy — uto uto lang yan

  162. Phil Cruz - September 15, 2009 11:12 pm

    AdeBrux,
    You wrote: Question is why did Erap do it today and same question as yours, why only NOW???

    Brilliant. Spot on, as you would say. Never even occurred to me to ask that basic question. You’re sharp.

  163. AdeBrux - September 15, 2009 11:19 pm

    You’re sharp.

    Phil, now you are making me blush… :-)

  164. balweg - September 15, 2009 11:26 pm

    The loser is Erap. He will shed off quite a few points in the next presidential survey…?

    Common sense Kgg. Phil Cruz, paanong magiging loser si Pres. Erap e naipakulong na nila ang pobre? Ang bilis nýong makalimot…six years Igan, pero di pa nagdeclare ng candidacy e no. 1 or 2 sa survery all over the Pinas ha not like na ginawa kay Yellow Fever?

    Paano na kung tulad siya ng mga maiingay diyan sa kalye na nagsipag anunsyo na to run sa 2010?

    Tingnan natin ang paghihiganti ng Masang Pinoy sa pamamagitan ng balota.

  165. Phil Cruz - September 15, 2009 11:40 pm

    Balweg,

    Erap will lose a few points in the survey ratings in my opinion because of this “duel” with Ping. If he had not pointed in the direction of Ping in the Dacer-Corbito case, all this dirty-laundry would not have started between him and Ping.

    Ping is not running for president, he is. There’s no survey rating for Ping to deduct from.

    But if you think that this airing of dirty laundry will bring up the ratings of Erap, then you most certainly are entitled to your opinion. I respect that.

  166. grizzy - September 16, 2009 3:03 am

    Nope, Anna, I am not rumor mongering. I am asking. Kilala ko si ex-Ambassador to Japan, Yuchengo. Magaling magbayad iyan doon sa mga taong magagamit/ginagamit niya. So, how do you know walang pakipkip iyan kay Ping?

  167. grizzy - September 16, 2009 3:07 am

    OK, so Ping is not running for president. I can’t see the reason now why he is exposing Erap, and not concentrate his attention for instance on the case of plunder against the sons of the Kulimbat, who must be thanking him for this gesture of his favorable to them.

    Sa totoo lang, bakit hindi siya nag-volunteer noon na maging witness against Erap when the guy was being tried for his supposed crime. Tama iyong mga nagtatanong, “Why now?”

    Nakakasuka is more like it.

  168. grizzy - September 16, 2009 3:26 am

    Sa totoo lang nawala ng lahat ang kaunting tiwala ko kay Erap nang magpasalamat siya kay Kulimbat for pardoning him. Worse pa iyong dinahilan pa ang nanay niya na tinanggap niya ang pardon ni Kulimbat na parang di niya naintindihan na iyon ay pag-amin niya ng kasalanang ibinibintang sa kaniya.

    Sa totoo lang, sumali ako sa isang egroup tungkol sa comeback ni Erap kasi akala ko nagkaroon na siya ng aral sa mga nangyari sa kaniya lalo na noong akala ko talagang lumalaban siyang itayo iyong dangal at puri niya. Pero nasira nang tinanggap niya, nagpasalamat pa, na siya ay ma-convict at i-pardon ng isa ring kriminal. Nasuka ako talaga lalo na nang sabihan niya iyong mga supporters niya na palakpakan iyong unanong humila sa kaniya pababa.

    Sabi ng isang kakilala ko, strategy lang daw iyon para makalabas siya at labanan ang magnanakaw na sinungaling pa. Nasuka din ako doon kasi di ganoon ang mga strategy namin pag kami nakibaka.

    Marami ang umasang lalakas na ang opposition dahil kay Erap, pero no dice. Lalong nagkalat ang mga kumag. Iyong sinasabing magiging VP niya na ayaw pumayag, gusto pa ngang mamangka o namamangka na sa dalawang ilog ngayon.

  169. grizzy - September 16, 2009 3:32 am

    Amenado ako na di dapat na pabalikin si Erap sa Malacanang. Pero di dapat ginawa ni Ping ang kabalbalan niya.

    Privilege speech, my ass! Puede naman niyang i-document at i-submit sa Department of Justice ang mga binulgar niya para magkaroon ng imbestigasyon, dakipin at parusahan si Erap para di na talaga siya makatakbo maliban na lang siguro kung lagpas na ang statute of limitation ng mga kasong sinasabi niya even just for the sake of justice at saka iyong tinatawag na “Crime does not pay.”

    Siguro ang tanong di dapat “Why now?” kundi “What for?” Ano ang motibo niya? That is the question!

  170. baguneta - September 16, 2009 6:52 am

    ay kung hindi nga nya pinasaringan si Lacson sa Dacer-Corbito, hindi mangyayari ito. Ayos ang ginagawa ni Lacson. Damay damay sa monay…he he he

  171. grizzy - September 16, 2009 7:03 am

    As I have been drumming over and over again, gumawa na lang ng documentary si Erap. Huwag na siyang magpumilit na bumalik sa Malacanang para makaganti doon sa magnanakaw lalo pa ngayong may willing witness na sila laban sa kaniya. Mas may pakinabang pa siya pagnagkataon.

    Kung gusto pa nga niya ng hustisya sa ginawa ni Lacson sa kaniya, puede siyang gumawa ng documentary for example tungkol doon sa Kuratong Baleleng kaya baka siya mismo sabit doon.

  172. grizzy - September 16, 2009 7:06 am

    Jueteng should not be made legal. Lalong masisira ang mga pilipino diyan. Yayaman lalo ang mga Pidal.

    Ang dapat nilang gawin ay higpitan ang pulisya, korte, etc. nila na magtrabaho ng mahusay para sa bayan at hindi para doon sa tapalaning magaling manuhol with suhol taken from the coffers of the land. Disiplina ang kailangan, di jueteng!

  173. grizzy - September 16, 2009 7:10 am

    Sabi ng mga umasa kay Erap, pag nakalabas siya babanatan niya si Kulimbat. O bakit hanggang ngayon nandoon pa rin si Kulimbat? Mismong mga bata daw niya sa Senado at Kongreso walang ginagawa para patalsikin iyong kriminal. Naniniguro pa kung saan sila gaganansiya.

  174. grizzy - September 16, 2009 7:18 am

    Come to think of it, wrong timing talaga itong si Lacson. May mas malaking issue ang dapat niyang binanatan at di si Erap na hindi pa naman tiyak kung tatakbo o hindi. Assumption lang naman noong mga desperado na talaga at walang mapili kundi iyong sa palagay nila ay lesser evil. Bakit nililihis niya ang init ng hangin?

    Bakit hindi iyong kaso ng mga anak ni Gloria Kulimbat ang binanatan niya based on the investigative reports of Vera Files at mga iba pang ebidensiya na siya pa mismo ang dapat maghanap even with the help of his former contacts at ICPO or even the police in the USA.

    Halatang-halata siya sa totoo lang. Hindi ito rumor mongering. Pagpapalinaw ito ng mga ginagawa niya at kung ano ba talaga siya.

  175. TonGuE-tWisTeD - September 16, 2009 7:59 am

    Open mind, at saka open eyes. Ito ang kailangan ngayon. Makasampung beses nang inulit na kaya nagprivilege speech si Ping dahil inginuso siya ni Erap sa Dacer-Corbito.

    Uulitin ko uli baka natakpan lang ng muta yung una.

    Kaya nagprivilege speech si Ping dahil inginuso siya ni Erap sa Dacer-Corbito. Ayan, naka-bold pa.

    Baka itatanong na naman kung bakit ngayon lang. Hindi naman si Ping ang mali ang timing, si Erap, hahaha. Uulitin ko pa uli!

  176. grizzy - September 16, 2009 8:04 am

    I read again the speech of Lacson. Nasuka ako. Ibang-iba talaga sa sistema sa amin. Dito kasi, ang pulis chief superintendent hindi appointee ng politiko. Career officers sila.

    Even their approval and confirmation does not come from the Prime Minister or politicians. They are confirmed by a board with members approved by the citizens of the land themselves. Hindi sila puedeng tratuhin ng gaya ng pagtrato ni Erap kay Lacson as he has alleged. Di puedeng makialam ang Prime Minister namin sa trabaho ng mga pulis kaya iyong mga gustong mangurakot madaling mapaalis.

    Naturingang matatalino at nagyayabang pang para sa bayan daw, pero bakit ganyan ang naging sistema?

  177. grizzy - September 16, 2009 8:08 am

    Kahit iyong sinasabi ni Lacson na kung siya ang masusunod walang naging problema si Erap kay Sabit Singson. Totalitarian ang sistema niya. Di siya ang puedeng masunod sa totoo lang. Ang batas ang dapat na sinusunod, at pati siya dapat sumunod sa batas. Problema lumabas din sa dila niya na walang batas na sinusunod kundi batas ni Erap na nasapawan ang gusto niya.

    Hindi ako bilib!!!

  178. grizzy - September 16, 2009 8:11 am

    Tama ka, Tongue. Parehong naglilinis ng dumi! Nagtuturuan na! Very typical!

  179. grizzy - September 16, 2009 8:14 am

    Gusto ko na tuloy maniwala doon sa sinabi ni Mumbaki na na-research niyang iyong mga tagalog at taga-Southern Luzon may dugong aso. :-P

    Si Erap taga-San Juan pero ang iyong tatay niya yata bicolano. Iyong mga Marcelo naman sa mother-side niya taga Malabon.

  180. baguneta - September 16, 2009 10:36 am

    Dapat siguro ma atomic bomb din ang Pilipinas gaya ng hapon para tumino. Kaya lang tumino ang Hapon dahil the Americans nuked them.

  181. grizzy - September 16, 2009 12:50 pm

    Sinabi mo pa, Baguneta. Pero ang hindi alam ng marami, ubos na sana ang mga hapon kundi nagsalita iyong emperador na tanggapin nila ang pagkatalo nila. Sabi ng matatanda dito, meaning iyong mga taong buhay noon, kundi daw sinabi ng emperador na tanggapin nila ang kahihiyan ng pagkatalo nila, nagsasaksak na ang karamihan doon mismo sa harap ng palasyo. Sa totoo lang di dahil binomba sila ng mga kano ng atomic bomb. Talagang disiplinado lang sila.

    Pati iyong mga gumawa ng batas ng Japan pagkatapos ng guerra, nagtrabaho talaga para lang sa katinuan ng bansa nila di gaya sa Pilipinas, ang inisip noong mga unggoy, kung papaano lang sila mananatili sa posisyon nila at di para talaga sa pagpapatino ng bansa nila at mga kababayan nila! Protektado pang mabuti na huwag mawala ang mga lupain noong pati mga landgrabbers bagong nagka-guerra. Kaya hanggang ngayon hindi nag-succeed ang sinasabi nilang Land Reform program ng mga kurakot!

  182. xman - September 16, 2009 2:38 pm

    Sana itigil na ni Lacson ang privilege speech niya laban kay Erap at makipag areglo sya dahil hindi naman nakakatulong sa kaso nya ngayon yong mga exposition nya kay Erap. Unless, kung may solid proof sya na si Erap talaga ang nag utos sa pagpapatay ng tao.

    Ang exposition ni Lacson ay walang kinalaman sa Dacer-Corbito case. Sinasabi ni Lacson tungkol sa smuggling at jueteng ni Erap, anong kinalaman non sa Dacer-Corbito case na si Erap ang nagpapatay sa tao. Kung baga sa sampung sinabi nya eh isa lang ang related sa Dacer-Corbito case. Anong ibig sabihin nyan?

    Kung may solid proof si pandak laban kay Lacson ay siguradong kulong sya. Sino ngayon ang inaasahan nya na mailabas sya sa bilangguan? Si Noynoy? malabong manalo yan, panalo lang yan sa guniguni ng evil yellow media. Si Erap?

  183. MPRivera - September 16, 2009 5:55 pm

    Gusto ko na tuloy maniwala doon sa sinabi ni Mumbaki na na-research niyang iyong mga tagalog at taga-Southern Luzon may dugong aso. -grizzy

    Bago kayo magsalita, humarap muna kayo sa salamin! Kung meron man kayong nakitang ganyan ang ugali’t asal, huwag ninyong lalahatin.

    Hindi lahat ng humawak sa kawaling kulapol ng uling ay gustong maulingan at lalong hindi lahat ng kamatis ay pareparehong bulok kahit nasa iisang lalagyan!

    Hindi maganda ‘yang pumupukol nang nakapit dahil pagbalik ng bato, sa mukha nila ang bukol!

  184. MPRivera - September 16, 2009 5:56 pm

    ……………pumupukol nang nakapikit …..

  185. grizzy - September 16, 2009 7:16 pm

    Kaya nga sabi ko kay Mumbaki di ako naniniwala doon sa sinabi noong Loarca na lahing dugong aso ang mga tao sa Marikina, etc. na katagalugan! Pero dahil sa mga ipinapakita ng mga unggoy, parang gusto ko nang maniwala, Magno. Bakit nagpuputok ang butsi mo?

  186. grizzy - September 16, 2009 7:18 pm

    Ang sabi ng mga matatanda, maganda man ang kamatis, madaling mabulok kapag isinama sa mga bulok na kamatis sa isang lalagyan. Iyan ang totoo.

  187. Mike - September 16, 2009 10:11 pm

    @Grizzy: “Tama ka, Tongue. Parehong naglilinis ng dumi! Nagtuturuan na! Very typical!”

    Sorry di ako agree na “parehong naglilinis ng dumi”. Ang dapat ay “nagkakalat ng kanilang dumi. :)

  188. Mike - September 16, 2009 10:13 pm

    @TonGuE-tWisTeD: “Kaya nagprivilege speech si Ping dahil inginuso siya ni Erap sa Dacer-Corbito. Ayan, naka-bold pa.”

    TonGUE,
    Read you loud and clear. :P

  189. Mike - September 16, 2009 10:16 pm

    grizzy,

    Di pwedeng mag ala-Michael Moore si Erap. Si Mr. Moore may substance yung kanyang libro. Dapat kay Erap magsulat siya ng Erap’s Joke book. :P

  190. SumpPit - September 16, 2009 10:46 pm

    We must celebrate the Truth even if it has come late. Truth is not subject to any timeline.

    What we must condemn are the Lies that are in perpetuity.

  191. andres - September 17, 2009 12:10 am

    Grizzy,

    Correct! Buti naman naisip mo rin ang timing ng banat ni Lacson!

    Isa lang ang malinaw para sa akin, si Lacson ay nabili na ni Arroyo mula 2004 pa na sanhi ng pagwagi sa pandaraya nito laban kay FPJ>

    Spoiler si Lacson! Ngayon malakas ang tyansa ni Erap, naging spoiler nanaman siya!

    Lacson ay traydor sa Bayan!

  192. andres - September 17, 2009 12:14 am

    Si Yuchengco ulyanin na! Paano niya kaya naalala ang mga bintang niya kay Erap?

  193. baguneta - September 17, 2009 12:46 am

    We must celebrate the Truth even if it has come late. Truth is not subject to any timeline – SumpPit

    I agree with you SumpPit. Yun ngang history book itinatama kung mali at hindi totoo eh. Walang expiration date ang katotohanan, kahit na ano pa ang motibo nito. Iyung ngang aklat ng kasaysayan natin na sinulat ni Zaide eh… hanggang ngayon may pagtutuwid sina ka Ambeth Ocampo.

  194. chi - September 17, 2009 12:52 am

    andres, nabasa ko kay Maceda na nasa NY si Yuchengo at nagpapagamot, meron pang alzheimer. So, sa tanong mo na yan ay sama ako. Kailangang linawin ito.

  195. balweg - September 17, 2009 3:06 am

    Dapat siguro ma atomic bomb din ang Pilipinas gaya ng hapon para tumino?

    Ang lupit mo naman Igang Baguneta? RELAX lang, kulang ka ba ng puhunan diyan at pahiramin muna kita at nang makabawi tayo.

    Ang problema e kailangan nating harapin at wag nating pagtatalunan…masolve natin ito e di parepareho tayong pinagpala?

    Di kasi nakukuha sa dahas ang anumang bagay…napag-uusapan ito ng masinsinan? Nangyayari lamang ang pingkian ng kukote kung ang paiiralin ang fried chicken ng bawat isa, ok lang kung luto ito sa MAX?

  196. baguneta - September 17, 2009 6:19 am

    Balweg, naiinggit lang ako kay igan Grizzy. Lagi nyang ipinagmamalaki at nababangit na sa Japan hindi pwede ang istilo natin, kaya sabi ko baka kung ma-nuked din tayo eh maging kapareho tayo ng Japan. If my argument is unsound, pasensya na nabubulagan lang siguro ako ng inggit kay igan grizzy.

    Ang problema ay ayos lang pagtalunan, para makarating sa mapagpapasyahang lunas.Sa pagbabatuhan ng kuro kuro, makakamit natin ito.

    Pero sangayon ako sayo igan Balweg hindi nakukuha sa dahas ang anumang bagay. Peace out.

  197. luzviminda - September 17, 2009 6:45 am

    Duda ako sa motibo nitong si Lacson eh. Parang gusto kong pag-aralan yung script niya. Una na yung pag-atras niya sa pagkandidatong Presidente. Nag-umpisa yan nung bumalik dito si Dumlao at hinawakan ng DOJ at kapalit at pagtestigo bilang state witness.

  198. grizzy - September 17, 2009 9:49 pm

    Huwag kang mainggit, Baguneta. Masama iyan, baka masiraan ka ng bait kasi nakakaloko ang inggit. May kakilala ako naloka sa inggit sa totoo lang.

    Mas mabuti sanang gayahin ng mga pilipino iyong mga hapon kung papaano nila naitayo ang bansa nila, gumawa ng mga batas na makakabuti sa lahat di lang para sa mga trapo gaya ng ginawa ng mga unggoy sa Pilipinas, at nagpapakamatay kapag nabisto at napahiya!!! :-P

  199. grizzy - September 17, 2009 9:55 pm

    Come to think of it, Andres, iyong boto ni Lacson di ginalaw ng mga Pidal noong 2004. Dito sa Japan, nabisto namin iyong ginawang nakaw sa boto ni Roco at FPJ. Iyong difference kasi ng supposed panalo ni Kulimbat, combination noong nawalang boto ng dalawa. Sa isang banda, bobo din ang mga unggoy. Mandadaya rin lang, nagpapabisto pa. Di sana sila bistado kung may awas din iyong boto ni Lacson na talaga namang kinawawa ng mga botante dito.

    Pag nanalo si Teodoro at nagkaroon ng cabinet position si Lacson, hindi na dapat pagtakhan!

  200. grizzy - September 17, 2009 10:26 pm

    Andres:

    Kaya ko nasabing wrong timing kasi lalo tuloy nabuwag ang oposisyon sa ginawa niya. Ang masama, walang nakinabang kundi iyong mga hidhid sa Malacanang!

  201. perl - September 18, 2009 7:14 am

    I agree with Senator Ping Lacson. Let me echo his last statement from his privilege speech:

    “God save the Philippines from Joseph Ejercito alias Joseph Estrada.”

  202. perl - September 18, 2009 7:41 am

    grizzy,
    hindi nila kayang dayaain si Ping kaya hindi nila ginalaw boto kay Ping. About timing, kailan ba ang tamang timing? Eh yan si Erap, may sinasabi pang unity… pero nung inaalok sya about pagsupport kay Nonoy.. ang diin ng tanggi, wala daw makakapigil sa kanya!

  203. andres - September 18, 2009 10:11 am

    God Save the Philippines from the Yellow Army!!!

  204. andres - September 18, 2009 10:14 am

    Grizzy,

    Si Lacson ay may backroom deal na kay Gloria mula 2004. Alam niyang wala siyang laban pero tinuloy niya upang makahati sa boto ni FPJ at manalo si GMA. Napapansin niyo ba na ang mga banat niya ngayon ay wala ng tapang? Ang ginigiba niya ang mga kasama sa oposisyon like Villar and Erap.

    Gising mga kababayan!

  205. andres - September 18, 2009 10:16 am

    Lacson is a spoiler!

    It is confirmed that Yuchengco is suffering from Alzheimer’s Disease. Sinabi ito ng kaibigan ko from RCBC.

    Ang tanong ko, how the hell was he able to recall all the things he said against Erap???

    Talagang conspiracy na ito!

    Wag naman tayo magbulag-bulagan!

  206. perl - September 18, 2009 1:17 pm

    andres – September 17, 2009 12:14 am

    Si Yuchengco ulyanin na! Paano niya kaya naalala ang mga bintang niya kay Erap?
    ========================================================
    Andres, bigyan kita ng isang logic question on how to test kung ulyanin ba, sinungaling o nagsasabi ng totoo ang isang taong malapit ng mamatay. Malapit ng mamatay kasi as per Wikipedia for Alzheimer’s disease: “life expectancy following diagnosis is approximately seven years”

    Question: Kumakahol ba ng aso?

    There are 3 possible answers.

    Answer1: Yes
    Answer2: No
    Answer3: I don’t know

    Ano sa tingin mo sagot ng nagsisinungaling? ulyanin? at nagsasabi ng totoo?

    kung hindi ka bulag, I hope you got what I mean.

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