Noynoy: ‘No point in competing with my parents’ (Q&A)

Benigno Aquino III

Benigno Aquino III


SEN. Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III’s strength—the legacy of his parents—is also his weakness. Blessed with sudden popularity reflected in the presidential surveys, he has become the favorite punching bag of every presidential wannabe.

Aquino enjoys a 60 percent rating in the most recent nationwide survey of the Social Weather Stations on presidential aspirants. A previous SWS survey in Luzon showed half the respondents favoring him.

Thrust into the presidential race without the usual preparation of a serious contender, the only son of martyred senator Benigno “Ninoy” Aquino Jr. and revered former president Corazon “Cory” Aquino has been the object of political innuendoes from rivals who question his readiness to be president. Does the younger Aquino have what it takes to duplicate, if not surpass, the track record and greatness of his parents?

Aquino was subjected to a series of questions about his personal background and achievements during his more than 11 years in Congress—nine years as representative of Tarlac and more than two years as senator. The following is a transcript of a one-on-one interview of Aquino, the Liberal Party standard-bearer, by Probe Profiles’ host Cheche Lazaro.

Click here (VERA Files) for the rest of the interview.

November 5, 2009 7:45 pm   Posted in: 2010 elections, Vera Files

229 Responses

  1. AdeBrux - November 5, 2009 9:08 pm

    Ellen,

    I read Vera File report dilegently up to half of Page 4 then I scanned bottom half.

    I’m afraid Noynoy’s replies are not impressive.

    They were hazy, non-committal at best. I lifted some of the questions and answers for furter disection but the only one question to which he gave a more or less direct reply was this:

    Q: EO 464.
    A: No such thing under my term. There has to be transparency. Kung tama yung ginagawa niyo, bakit hindi pwedeng magstand ng scrutiny? At kung sobrang bababuyin naman ang other branches of government, di yung taong bayan na siguro ang magtatanggol sa amin dun.

    But proof that Noynoy will not be the president that this country needs is based on his convoluted reply to this question.

    Q: Si GMA ba kakasuhan mo?
    A: First of all, I want closure dun sa many issues and she seems to be either directly, peripherally involved in some of these. Having said that, my father did teach me rather that democracy’s test is your ability to defend the rights of your enemies, especially, not just of your friends. Yung paniwala niya, pag pumayag kang may maapi yung isang grupo, eventually lahat ng grupo aapihin. Yung grupo ng lipunan, ano? So kung ayaw mong ikaw na lang ang natitirang aapihin, ay siguraduhin mo sa umpisa pa lang pinagtanggol mo na yung karapatan mo. So, in our system, innocent until proven guilty. I will ensure that she gets all of her rights–people around her, etc, members of this current administration. At the end of the day, I want closure. Yung pasensyahan na lang kung san umabot.

  2. AdeBrux - November 5, 2009 9:13 pm

    I am convinced he is a very decent person. But I’m afraid his calling is that for priesthood and not for the presidency.

  3. henry90 - November 5, 2009 9:28 pm

    Anna:

    Now u know why Pamapanga voted Among Ed. . . Sa dami ng bulok na nangyayari sa gobyerno natin, Noynoy, many people here will surely disagree, is like a whiff of fresh air that will hopefully deodorize the stink enveloping us. Afterl all these years of unabated corruption in our midst, you cannot blame people for casting their lot in him. Read how he explained his role as a legislator? Napahiya yung nangangantiyaw. Siya alam nya ang trabaho nya. Yung iba nagtratrabaho lang kung may kamera na nakatutok. It’s really difficult to second-guess a soft-spoken and quiet individual. Bihira lang magsalita pero alam mong matalino at malalim mag isip pag tinanong mo. Very deliberate at di padalos-dalos unlike sa iba na ang lakas ng loob na sabihin what may be popular for the moment only to eat their words the following day. Magagaling magsalita. Talo pa ang mga salesman kung bumanat. Kakambyo nga lang pag di bumenta. . .

  4. chi - November 5, 2009 9:54 pm

    I admire the values of this family. I like the person of Noynoy, in fact.

    If the 60% approval would bring him to the presidency, I have no qualms. Unfortunately, I’m searching for something new that would usher us to a new era of politics. It might not be possible this time but it’s worth a try.

    In case Noynoy wins, my only wish which is DOABLE when he’s up there is: huwag mong pagpasensyahan si Gloria Arroyo!

  5. Ellen - November 5, 2009 10:04 pm

    I’m disappointed why Che-Che Lazaro didn’t ask about Kris Aquino. What role Kris has in his life and how is he going to handle her.

    Che-Che dwelt too much on the past.

  6. chi - November 5, 2009 10:13 pm

    Agree, masyadong soft ang interview ni Che-Che kay Noynoy. Parang si Tita Cory ang nasa line of fire, iniiwasang barilin. hehehe!

  7. Ellen - November 5, 2009 10:20 pm

    From Cita Garcia:

    Sure, Noynoy has got what it takes to be president something others do not only have but they are incapable of having it.

    It simply is not in their blood. Noynoy is endowed with ideal parents, one is a martyr, another was a president who beat the most dreaded dictator Marcos; both left a legacy no one in the history of the PHilippines has done.Inggit lang ang ibang candidato kay Noynoy.

  8. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 5, 2009 10:24 pm

    Boring.

  9. henry90 - November 5, 2009 10:31 pm

    Ang problema kasi sa atin, we tend too much to depend sa isang namumuno to bring us out of the rut that we are in. That is why napakadali nating madisillusion kung walang kwenta ang namumuno. Me thinks Noynoy will be a transformational president IF he wins next year. Yun naman dapat ang pinaka importanteng papel ng isang presidente di ba? More than the managerial acumen, a leader should inspire hope among his people.

    The problems that we are stuck with for the last 30 years can not be solved in one term. People should not expect instant miracles. They’ll just get frustrated. But we should start with decency in government. Like corruption, decency can also be infectious. Kaya nga marami sa gobyerno ngayon, di lahat, ay nangungurakot dahil kurakot ang namumuno. Same is true with a decent leader at the helm. Goodness begets goodness. Respect and trust follow and hopefully, the 3 branches of government can do their thing with mutual respect. We don’t expect our president to be superman who will solve all the problems we have in society. Precisely why we should have a working(?) government bureaucracy in the first place.

    But we expect our president to be decent in working for our welfare and to defend our God-given rights in order to live decent lives. We dont want a President whom we will disown if we are in foreign soil. And above all, we don’t want a President who makes us want to forget that we are Filipinos after all. That before Gloria Arroyo became president, we are a proud people. . . Other people just dont get it even if reality stares them in the face. . . We dont need your Money. . . we dont need your cheesy talk. . . we dont need your “Para sa MaErap”. . . Enough. . .

  10. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 5, 2009 10:35 pm

    Q: You were, in a manner of speaking, pinanganak sa isang sikat na pamilya, isang pamilyang may pera. Pa’no kayo naging ganun kasimple, ang mga magulang mo? Nung lumalaki ba kayo, buhay mayaman ba kayo? Anong klaseng buhay yung meron niyo?
    A: I don’t think they were one to splurge. Yung, one time nga, kid, candy favorite. Talagang hoarding, talagang savoring each and every morsel of it. Suddenly, dad got the bag, and started–and told me, “‘Lika dito,” –my dad, magkasama kami. And everybody, he’d give the candy to. Talagang, even if they wanted a different bag, “Kumuha kayo rito.” Then my job, giving me the bag, empty the bag. Alam mo, hindi maganda ang swapang. After that, pag meron ka ulit nun, mag-share ka na, at least mase-save mo yung mga may ayaw. Yung nature, by example, yung pagbinati raw yung relo niya at some point in time, “Type mo ba? Sa yo na” to the people he gets to talk to. Tapos yung, I don’t know, parang from them, from out grandparents, wala talaga, hindi talaga inuso yung mag-splurge. If you wanted something–meron rin naman siguro, I mean we had a colored TV, hindi naman right away. Naabutan ko pa rin naman yung black and white, pero–”

    Totally wanting in substance, unfocused, and has difficulty structuring his replies. Liko dito, liko doon. Singit nito, singit niyan. Walang patutunguhan. That is where he will take us if and when he becomes president? He cannot even communicate with Cheche, let alone with his own mental faculties, how can he communicate with 90 million people? Sorry. I’m not impressed at all.

    He knew beforehand that Cheche is conducting a series of interviews among the presidentiables. If this is the best he can come up with after preparing for it, I think he just lost this round. His handlers are doing a lousy job. This guy needs help.

  11. henry90 - November 5, 2009 10:53 pm

    Dont think so. . . only shows his human and his image is no put-on. . .what u see is what u get. . .now we didnt get to hear others before him asked this type of question. . .puro pambobola. . .fake. . . it’s in the genes man, he was pointing out to Che-che asking him, on why inspite of their wealth, ganun pa rin sya kasimple. . . didnt find it hard to understand. . .

  12. lumangkuwago - November 5, 2009 10:59 pm

    Sa interviewer muna komento ko. Mahabang panahon na ang iginugol ni Cheche Lazaro sa larangan ng media.

    Progresibo ito. Dati. Ano kaya ang nangyari?

    Masyado na yatang komportable ang kanyang kinalalagyan at nakalimutan ng mag-interbyu ng may diin at libog.

    Makakatulong ang refresher course. Rekomendado ko ang istilo ng Der Spiegel, halimbawa.

  13. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 5, 2009 11:05 pm

    Henry90,
    How can Noynoy inspire hope e ni hindi siya maintindihan ng tao sa mga pinagsasabi niya. Magulo ang utak. Parang yung adik na kilala ko, incoherent at disconnected ang mga sinasabi.

    Hindi pa nga nananalo ang dami nang justifications for failure? Kulang ang one term, no instant miracles, not a superman, in fairness (pahiram, Kris Aquino) meron naman daw decent presidency, inspiring hope – yan din si Cory. All of it have been said of her too. Look what happened after 6 six years of EDSA I? As if it wasn’t enough, wasn’t Cory instrumental in delivering all of us to Gloria’s Hell on a silver platter?

    If there’s one thing I can’t stand in our society, it’s the coddling of incompetents. Although I don’t go all out for geniuses (and their delusions of grandeur) either, there has to be a, er, decent measure, a minimum standard of competence, a hurdle rate that must be achieved most especially for one aspiring to lead 90 million people out of the frying pan? The pwede-na-yan mentality cannot and will not help us at all.

    I’ve not even touched on the politics of genetics at all. Much less the skeletons in his closet (some say it’s a cemetery). Sheesh.

  14. kapinoyan - November 5, 2009 11:25 pm

    I think the regular posters here have made their respective choices between Noynoy and Chiz, and no one is for Gibo, Erap or Villar.

    Each would have intelligent reasons for their respective choices, which should be respected and not put to task or insulted.

    How about a survey here? I am for Noynoy.

  15. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 5, 2009 11:35 pm

    Q: Pero hindi ka lumaki na gutom, hindi ka lumaki ng hirap
    A: No, no. Everything was attended to. Pero when you wanted something extra, you work for it. You want to buy this, you save. Wala yung punta ka ng punta, hingi ka ng hingi. And then we were conscious, ‘no, going to a movie, for instance, parang nagbigay, my mom would give me, my dad would refrain from those, even if we wanted to.

    Susmaryosep. Ano raw? My ten-year old son can construct his sentences more clearly and coherently. If Noynoy’s really a what-you-see-is-what-you-get type and this is all he can offer, then I’m not buying.

    Compare it with this interview with Escudero:

    Q: Oo. Pag sinasabi mong normal at saka average lang do you consider yourself rich, poor, what?
    A: Middle class. Dahil ang tatay at nanay ko, mula nang kinasal sila tumira ang tatay ko sa bahay ng maternal grandparents ko kasi yung maternal grandparents ko, sila Lolo Pisyong at Lola Bana, sa Kitanlad Street kami nakatira noon. Nung kinasal yung kanyang mga anak, sabi niya, “Dyan na lang kayo magpatayo ng bahay.” So yung dating garahe, naging bahay namin. Yung dating swimming pool, naging bahay nung isang auntie ko. Yung dating garden, naging bahay naman nung isa pang auntie ko.

    Or this portion with Gibo:

    Q: So masasabi natin dun sa inyong, nung binasa namin yung biography niyo, kayo ho ay pinanganak sa isang respetado, mayaman at tini-tingalang pamilya. Ito ho ba ay tumatak sa inyong kaisipan at sa inyong paglaki?
    A: Siyempre po maraming pribilehiyo ho ang nabuksan sa akin, lalong-lalo na hindi po ako kailangang mag-aalala kung san ako kukuha ng pangmatrikula or baon araw-araw. Ngunit ako po’y may isang ama na hindi naman lumaki ng ganun, siya po’y hindi kasing palad ng aking ina. Dumaan po ng giyera at malaking pamilya na hindi naman may kakayahan so alam din ng tatay ko ho yung only child syndrome, so naging istrikto, nakikita niya yung nangyayari minsan so naging istriktong-istrikto ho yung tatay ko sa akin.

    Malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw kung sino ang may kakayahang mamuno sa bansa at kung sino ang wala. Kung barangay captain lang sana ang labanan hindi ako mag-aaksaya ng panahon upang tulungan ang mga naghahanap ng giya sa tamang pagdedesisyon.

    Pero por Diyos por Santo, presidente ang pinaglalabanan dito!

  16. henry90 - November 5, 2009 11:39 pm

    Tongue:

    Tell that to the millions who will vote for him. Lest u forget, Cory never claimed anything except that she was just a transition president who restored democracy after Martial law. Pray tell me, who among the putative candidates will be able to solve the mess that we are in now? Who among them has the moral and intellectual honesty to exorcise the ghosts in the deepest recesses, cemeteries if u like, of government? It’s so easy for any candidate to say that, of course. But doing it is another thing. Let me say it again. . .The root cause of all of this is the dearth of good men in government. . . After 9 years of Gloria, people want respite from all the scandals that we have been accustomed to. . . We are ailing from within. . .no, we are sick in the minds for taking this wanton abuse from this government with nary a whimper. . . this is another edsa. . . laugh and ridicule all u want. . . me, i’ll just be happy with the thought that with the impending change in the presidency(sana di mausog), di na tayo babansagang most corrupt na bansa. And THAT to me is the most important accomplishment the incoming president will ever make. Lahat nang nasa wish list nyo, susunod yan. One problem at a time friends. . . restore trust and confidence in government first. . . peace. . .

  17. henry90 - November 5, 2009 11:48 pm

    Sure, they may be the most articulate speakers in the world, Marcos was, Putot is, but so what? The question is? Do people trust them to walk the talk? It’s not the medium, it’s the message. Parang sa text messaging. ‘Here na me. Where na u?’ Difficult? Naah. . .

  18. chi - November 5, 2009 11:54 pm

    kapinoyan,

    Many regular posters here already identified themselves aligned with Erap, nun pa. In the loop “Joining Chiz Odessey”, you can meet some them, most also don’t go Gibo or Villar. We have common denominator though, ayaw lahat kay Gloria.

  19. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 5, 2009 11:56 pm

    kapinoyan,
    I’m not decided yet though at present, I am partial to Escudero. Noynoy is second, Villar third, Erap fourth, Gibo last. If Gibo was not a Gloria lapdog, he would have been second with the rest sliding down one notch.

    Especially with the arguments coming out for or against each one, Noynoy is fast slipping further down.

    We have to thank Cheche Lazaro’s Probe Team and Vera Files for putting this online. I hope to tabulate the similar questions asked of each candidate so we can judge them side by side.

    I was trained in my previous jobs to test the limits of one’s product then compare it with the competitors’ just to get some sort of confidence into the salespeople’s systems. The end view is to give the customers the best alternative. If one product does not stand the rigors of Quality Assurance, we reject it and send it back to the designers. That basically is how we make crucial decisions. I use it whether in business, family or even the selection of presidents.

  20. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 6, 2009 12:05 am

    “Cory never claimed anything except that she was just a transition president who restored democracy after Martial law.”

    The same democracy Cory handed over to Gloria who has since single-handedly destroyed all vestiges of legality and morality in practically all the institutions. Thank you, Cory?

    Nah.

  21. Oblak - November 6, 2009 12:08 am

    I watched Probe and read the interview.

    The negative sides: lack of eloquence, too simplistic and too cautious.

    The positive sides: not pretentious, shows he is a decent person and clean image

    Mag disagree lang ako Ms. ellen dun sa bakit hindi tinanong tungkol kay kris. Kapag pinasok kasi ang topic na kris, sasabihing sumasakay sa kasikatan ni Kris. Hindi naman maganda na para dun sa mga naasar kay Kris na isingit si Kris para magkaroon ng hate transference kay Noynoy. Sa buong interview, pwedeng ipasok din ni Ninoy si Kris para mahila yung humahanga kay Kris pero nabanggit lang si Kris dun sa hindi sa paglagay ng trabaho ng tatay nila. Sa tingin ko lang mas malapit si Noynoy kay Pinky.

    Para sa mga gusto nA glib talker ang kandidato, hindi uubra si Noynoy. Para naman sa may gustong disente ang kandidato, pasok na pasok si Noynoy.

    Based on the interview, there is something between Noynoy’s ears. I see him more of a Cory than a Ninoy.

  22. rose - November 6, 2009 12:11 am

    …when cory was elected president marami ang hindi believe sa kanya, pero she did what she had to do (kahit siya ay isang housewife lamang)..and she was a good prsident.
    …marcos was intelligent par excellence..he did what he did…was he a good president?
    …erap was popular para sa mahihirap..para sa masa..was he a good president?
    …naging presidente si gloria..matalino, may doctorate, naging senador, naging vice presidente..is she doing her job as pangulo (sa tingin ng marami siya ay pang gulo)?..
    …hindi natin alam ang kapasidad ni Noy Noy..who knows..but he seems to be a man of God..is that not a good sign? God knows best for our country…and we do not! ang sabi nga bahala ang Dios!
    …Bahala na ang Dios..kung si villar, si chiz, si erap at kahit sino pa..basta sa kabutihan ng ating bayan…let’s play sipa..sipain si putot!

  23. henry90 - November 6, 2009 12:23 am

    It’s very seldom that I would get myself to be identified with any candidate. Must be the structured system of the military which i served for more than 20 years. First was the snap elections in 86 and now. Cory and Noy are the two people who I respect so much. Being up-close with them, not necessarily personal, is an experience like no other. Serving under the PSG during that time is like serving your own family. Cory has none of the trappings of power. Down to earth, often solicitous of the well-being of the lowly soldiers. Noy is no different. Tahimik, simple, mabait sa tao, walang ere. Malimit ayaw na may kabuntot na security. These are the same traits that endear him to many Filipinos. Yun bang alam mong di ka aabusuhin. He maybe average Joe to many Filipinos, but for us who had the opportunity to serve the Aquino family during those difficult times, nakatatak na sa isipan namin yun na may tiwala kami kay Noy at di nya kami lolokohin. He had tasted power before and his feet remained firmly on the ground. He was the de facto First Gentleman. And he never did anything to tarnish the Presidency of his mother. And many people are still surprised why Filipinos trust him?

  24. henry90 - November 6, 2009 12:32 am

    The same democracy Chiz and the spice boys handed over to Gloria who has since single-handedly destroyed all vestiges of legality and morality in paractically all the institutions. Thank you, Chiz?

    Nah. . .

  25. Oblak - November 6, 2009 12:44 am

    Hindi naman yata fair na sabihin na si Cory ang nagbigay ng poder kay Gloria noong 2001. Nagkaroon ng misa sa EDSA Shrine na pinamunuan ni Cardinal Sin at isa si Cory na nanduon. Walang naghikayat na mag rally sa kalye. Nagpuntahan ang mga tao sa EDSA at hindi na nag alisan. Noong dumami na ang tao, may mga nagsalita na sa stage. Sa buong EDSA 2, dalawang beses ko lang nakita si Cory sa stage, noong unang gabi at sa oath taking na ni Gloria.

    Noong panahong iyon, maraming tutol kay Gloria pero sinunod ang constitution at ang Vice President ang naging Pangulo. Walang sinoman ang makakapagsabi noon na magiging “monster” si Gloria.

    Agree ako kay Henry90 tungkol sa katangian ni Cory. Isa rin ako sa nakasaksi sa kasimplihan ni Cory.

  26. henry90 - November 6, 2009 12:55 am

    http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=2643. . .Sabi ni xman sa kabilang thread, this is a blast from the past. . .
    agree. . . Sa mga nag post sa topic na ito noon, basahin nyo uli post nyo against Escudero. . .

  27. Mike - November 6, 2009 12:58 am

    Walang kwenta, mas binasa ko pa interview kay Chiz and Gibo. Half way reading palang inantok na ako. Ho-hum…zzzzzzzzzz!

    Dapat ang ininterview nalang si Kris, malamang mas may substance at maraming sikreto ng pamilya na ibubunyag. Taklesa, ika nga,

  28. henry90 - November 6, 2009 12:58 am

    “Sayang si Chiz. Lumabas ang tunay na pagkatao. Oportunista pala.

    Sana tama ang paniniwala ko na marunong nang bumoto ngayon ang mga Pinoy. . ”

    I wonder whose post is this?

  29. Mike - November 6, 2009 1:02 am

    I beg to disagree with Oblak regarding “sinunod ang constitution”. They totally disregarded the constitution. It was a coup de tat, mob rule all rolled into one. And the result? Gloria!!! Grrrrr!!!!

  30. henry90 - November 6, 2009 1:02 am

    And this. . .”The first time I saw Chiz pic here at Ellenville, I thought …oi guapo and young, but somethings are missing. He does not have the IT” and intellectual honesty of Trillanes. Saka ang ‘lambot’ ng dating sa akin ng kanyang personalidad. This current line of him, “We have already suffered and sacrificed for seven years, what is two years?” pictured the real him. Chiz Escudero is empty, as empty as his ninang Gloria’s heart!

    Senator Sonny Trillanes said: Ang mayayaman ay makakapaghintay, ang mahihirap ay hindi. Read mo ba Chiz?!”

  31. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 6, 2009 1:08 am

    Who among them has the moral and intellectual honesty to exorcise the ghosts in the deepest recesses, cemeteries if u like, of government?

    If it’s Noynoy who will, well he can start by recalling their plan to coalesce with NPC. Or has that been forgotten already?

    How do you exorcise the devils when they are now working in your monastery? Impossible.

  32. Mike - November 6, 2009 1:09 am

    Gloria should not be the successor of Erap in the first place since she and the so called civil society and leftist group started planning the coup since day one of the Erap presidency. This was admitted by Gloria herself in an interview… with pictures taken with leftist group. Forgot the name of the magazine that interviewed her.

  33. parasabayan - November 6, 2009 1:10 am

    If Noynoy wins, I do not have a problem with him. But I have a problem with Uncle Danding Cojuangco, the man who is greedy, walang kbusugan sa pera at kapangyarihan.

  34. Mike - November 6, 2009 1:13 am

    While we are arguing now about who is the more qualified candidate to become the next president. Rep. Danilo Suarez commented in an interview that if Gloria does not run for congressman in Pampangga, she could try the vice presidency post. Watch out people, something is afoot!

  35. Diego K. Guerrero - November 6, 2009 1:14 am

    Re: Noong panahong iyon, maraming tutol kay Gloria pero sinunod ang constitution at ang Vice President ang naging Pangulo.

    Constitutional transition ba ang kudeta? Bakit patay na ba si Erap?

  36. parasabayan - November 6, 2009 1:20 am

    My dad always said that for one to succeed in life he has to have the brains, the muscles and his virtues. One who has only the brains but lacking the other two, becomes a criminal (mafia leader-sounds familiar?). Yung puro muscles naman at wala ng iba, construction worker ang labas, tiga masa na lang ng cement. And if one has all the virtues without the other two, he is best as a man of God. Noynoy can fall in the last category, I guess. Haven’t we had enough with Cardinal Sin, Cardinal Rosales and the likes of them? If Noynoy wins, the church runs the country anew. It is not a productive scenario. We will be in another 6 years of hybernation if Noynoy wins. Puro awa ang labas and this is the worst stumbling block in governance. Our next leader should be decisive, objective and competent. These qualities are lacking in Noynoy.

  37. Mike - November 6, 2009 1:27 am

    Arroyo can run for VP

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/11/03/09/arroyo-can-run-vp

    Or is she preparing to run for congresswoman?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHFRRqwlzrM&feature=player_embedded#

  38. chi - November 6, 2009 1:30 am

    henry,

    Akin ba yan poste? Bakit hindi mo tukuyin kung sinong nagposte niyan nun, mahirap ng matandaan sa dami ng lumipas? Mukhang estilo ko e.

    Gaya ng sagot ko kay xman:

    chi – November 5, 2009 12:08 pm

    xman, we react here based on current events, lahat nagbabago dahil fluid ang Pinas politics.

    Sa simula pa, ang mga bloggers sa Ellenville ay bumibira sa inaakala nilang hindi tamang mga salita at aksyon ng dati nang mga sinuportahan. Kaya hindi nakakataka na bago-bago ang mga reactions ng bloggers ayon sa bawat galaw at kilos ng mga politiko. Hindi naman fanatics ang mga tao dito.
    __

    I mentioned here many times na salawahan ako sa pagpili ng mga kandidato dahil ibinabase ko sa mga kasulukuyan nilang sinasabi at aksyon, I’m not FIXATED on anybody based on their past performances dahil nagiging wise o mas bobo sa dati ang mga politiko. Nothing remains the same, maliban siguro kay Gloria Arroyo.

    When that topic came out, malayo naman talaga si Chiz kay Trillanes a! Ibig mong sabihin ay wala nang nangyari at nadagdag kay Chiz o kahit kanino sa kanila since then?

    Kung mag-archive kayo (nasimulan na rin lang)…go to the topic when Erap was convicted of plunder. Dyan ay makikita ninyo na majority sa bloggers kahit hindi bumoto kay Erap ay nakisimpatya sa kanya against Gloria. In fact, si Ellen ay nagpasyal pa sa Greenbelt (ba?) para makahinga…

    Flexible ako sa pagpili ng susuportahan ko, hindi ako fanatic. Si Noynoy na rin ang nagsabi “doable” and “now”.

  39. henry90 - November 6, 2009 1:30 am

    “How do you exorcise the devils when they are now working in your monastery? Impossible”

    Try by standing by with ur beliefs/convictions for starters:“Sayang si Chiz. Lumabas ang tunay na pagkatao. Oportunista pala.

    Sana tama ang paniniwala ko na marunong nang bumoto ngayon ang mga Pinoy. . ”

    Change of heart?

  40. Mike - November 6, 2009 1:32 am

    Here’s another link on Gloria’s run for VP:

    http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/228083/a-dangerous-proposition

  41. henry90 - November 6, 2009 1:39 am

    Chi:

    No offense meant. . .didn’t mean to copy/paste ur post way back then. . .sorry po. . . kaya nga sabi ko, mahirap magpadala sa sinasabi ng glib-talkers. . .paiba-iba sinasabi depending on what is fashionable at the moment. . .bukas iba naman sasabihin. . .maaaring matatalino nga, pero walang character. . .mahirap yung ganun. . .Sorry Chi ha. . . di ko ma delete e. . .Si Mam Ellen lang puede mag delete nun. . .Thanks. . .

  42. Tedanz - November 6, 2009 1:51 am

    Patay yong magiging Presidente pag nanalo si Glorya sa pagka-Bise. Susunduin yong panalong Pangulo at medyo iikot-ikot nila sa Cavite at pag walang maghanap ….. tepok siya. Style ng mga bata ng mga Arroyo … mamamasyal muna bago ihatid sa langit.
    Hindi pa kasi sipain na lang si Glorya sa Malakanyang para naman maraming sumaya.

  43. Tedanz - November 6, 2009 1:53 am

    Kung hindi kayo Noynoy tumahimik na lang kayo. Iboto niyo na lang ang manok niyo ng ….th times kung gusto niyo. Basta ako kay Erap ako sapaqgkat ako’y tao lamang.

  44. Tedanz - November 6, 2009 1:55 am

    Talo kung talo .. panalo kung panalo. Oks ba mga Igan.

  45. chi - November 6, 2009 1:59 am

    No problem yan, henry…lahat naman dito ay documented pero dapat ay may attribution sa nagsabi. I don’t want my current and previous comments to be mistaken as posted by someone else.

    Sinuportahan namin si Trillanes, Chiz, Allan, Adel, Noynoy… dito ng hayagan noon. Pero inamin ko rin na at the last minute ng ako ay nasa presinto na ay pangalan lang ni Trillanes ang aking isinulat dahil gusto ko talaga siyang manalo. So, I don’t have problems kung biglaan din akong bumoto kay Noynoy if he could impress me more than Chiz would in the coming months and NOW.

  46. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 6, 2009 2:07 am

    “Sayang si Chiz. Lumabas ang tunay na pagkatao. Oportunista pala.

    Sana tama ang paniniwala ko na marunong nang bumoto ngayon ang mga Pinoy. . ”

    I wonder whose post is this?

    Akin yan. I won’t deny it. Since you raised it, I feel compelled to explain. I have earlier dismissed Escudero as a possible choice because of his past association with NPC and Danding. It wasn’t only me who made it clear that Chiz was not in our radar because of this. I was a consistent Lacson supporter and when he backed out I was for Roxas.

    As chi has said, Phil. politics is fluid and you play it as the game goes on. Inquirer’s slip started showing when it started dumping Roxas and the columnists began drafting Noynoy in his place. Even Alex Magno was batting for him, wow! Damn, it’s the same old EDSA I gang trying to be relevant again but since there was no other better choice, Noynoy naturally dislodged Roxas in my list, although I had reservations, as I said here : http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=7113.

    The game changer was when Chiz decided to bolt NPC following Magdalo’s endorsement. I have always been a reform ideologue. Lacson, Roxas, Magdalo, Trillanes, Chiz were to me, the only plausible agents of change from the present crop.

    Now, Noynoy continues his clueless journey, going where the puppet strings in the hands of trapos Drilon and Abad, Black and White, et al will take him. If that wasn’t stupid enough, they now announce a plan to coalesce with trapo party NPC which Chiz had just dumped. The music video released yesterday is the handiwork of old politics transforming itself and devouring youthful candidates like Noynoy, using artistas and celebrities to attract followers. Talk about “new politics”. My ass.

    Now if Noynoy himself wants to be considered a reformist, I challenge him now, resign from your party. Leave Drilon et al to their trapo tools and prove that you are not like them.

  47. duane - November 6, 2009 2:10 am

    So, judgement is based on previous work relations and impressions? I won’t question that because it is a personal choice. It’s not different, however, from the old Pinoy political practice of “kumpare system”.

    Being partial to a particular candidate because you have not directly interacted with the other, although the latter has better leadership qualities than the former but both may have the same trait and character, is not impressive. Unless, you had made a promise you don’t want to break.

    Rebuilding a house damaged by typhoons in a typhoon-prone area requires the best materials and craftsmen. It has to be built with good foundation and framework for future generations to live in. Therefore, a good architect/engineer is needed, not a so-so one.

  48. martina - November 6, 2009 2:20 am

    No. 26, from Henry90: Posts from “So Young and so out of touch”. That was referring to Chiz Escudero.

    Well, anyone can have a change of heart. I wonder, months from now, people can also change what they think and feel about Gloria and her family.

  49. duane - November 6, 2009 2:22 am

    Lumalabas na si TT ay hindi sarado ang isip, at ginagamit ang utak. Nagbabago kung nakikita niyang maganda ang kalalabasan.

    Mas maganda yun kesa sa maging fanatic sa personalidad ng isang tao, kahit na kitang-kitang wala namang sinabi kung ikukumpara sa isang kalaban.

  50. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 6, 2009 2:22 am

    I stand by what I said “Sana tama ang paniniwala ko na marunong nang bumoto ngayon ang mga Pinoy.”

  51. chi - November 6, 2009 2:22 am

    tongue, muntik ko ng saluhin yan..’kala ko akin pa rin, hahaha!

  52. parasabayan - November 6, 2009 2:27 am

    Mahirap talagang mamili ngayon dahil kung may brains, wala namang character. At kung may character, wala namang brains.

    I wonder how all the pro-Chiz here would react if Chiz joins Villar. Chiz said, he will never join Villar but now he is changing his tune. Kung mag-explain daw si Villar sa Senate tungkol sa C5, Chiz will not close the door. Villar would be stupid to subject himself to the trigger happy presidentiables in the senate. Villar would as well have just put himself on the firing range ready for a bullseye shot or shots! I can see why Villar does not like to face his presidentiable colleagues. Daig pa niyang nagharakiri kapag nagkataon.

    Back to Noynoy, I just read an article na may temper daw yung future first lady. Ibinabato daw niya yung cell phone niya kung nagagalit. Wow! Talk about making choices in life hah. After 50 years, iniwan na siya ni Korina and now his pick of his mate eh ala-putot pa. This really bothers me so much that at 50 ni wala pa siyang asawa o a stable relationship. Most man would have done everything and would be on their way back at 50! I have nothing against single people but at least at 50 eh mayroon man lang serious and stable relationship. I heard he is even a chain smoker pa!

  53. Mike - November 6, 2009 2:35 am

    PSB,
    Being a chain smoker is irrelevant as far as I’m concerned, but having a GF throwing tantrums (cellphone) here and there when something upsets her scares the sh*t out of me. Naalala ko si Gloria nung nambato ng laptop.

    Btw, kung tutoo lang naman ang tsismis na yan ha, no offense meant to Noynoy’s GF. ;)

  54. Mike - November 6, 2009 2:41 am

    Kung sa pagiging matino at disente lang naman ang paguusapan, mukhang pasok diyan si Noy at si Chiz. Pero kung may kakayahang maglingkod bilang pangulo ng bansa, wala pa akong nakikita sa ngayon. Kaya nga sa ngayon ay di pa ako makapagpasya kung sino ang iboboto ko. Siguro kung malapit na ang halalan, duoon na ako magpapasya. Masyado pang maaga eh.

  55. chi - November 6, 2009 2:49 am

    PSB,

    Sabi ko nga ay madali akong tumalon. Kung walang isang salita si Chiz ngayon e bakit ko sya pagtitiyagaan? If he’d join Villar, definitely I’d pick someone else. I’m leaning towards him as a presidential wannabe, not VP. Hindi naman niya basta ma-implement din ang kanyang mga sinabi kung bise lang sya.

  56. henry90 - November 6, 2009 2:50 am

    We’re talking here of CHARACTER. . .How can u trust somebody who says one thing and change his mind the following day? Who changes his mind for wont of a better gimmick to improve his numbers? I am willing to bet. Pag di umangat numero nyan bago magkatapusan, may presscon na naman sa Club Filipino at ganito maririnig mo: ” Sa aking giliw na mga tagasuporta. Datapwa’t ginawa ko na ang lahat na karapatdapat, minararapat ko na lang na huwag nang ituloy ang aking pagtakbo para sa pagkapangulo sa kadahilanang wala pong kwenta ang eleksiyon sa Pilipinas. Ako po na walang partido, bilyones at di heredero ay di gusto ng mas nakakaraming Filipino dahil wala pong Kris at Boy na nangangampanya para sa akin, walang C5 na pagkukunan ng pondo at walang makinarya ng gobyerno na magtataguyod sa akin. Samakatuwid, di pala sapat ang magaling kang magsalita na parang makata pero ayaw ka namang itaguyod dahil wala kang pera. Dahil po dito ako po ay aanib na lamang kay Money dahil nasabi ko na po na pag naipaliwanag nya sa akin ng maayos ang katotohanan sa likod ng C5, di ko isasara ang pintuan para makipag alyansa dito. . Taos-puso ko pong tinatanggap na maging bise-presidente ni Money. . .Ipagpaumanhin na po nang aking mga tagapagtaguyod. Tao lang lang din po ako. . Nagbabago ang isip. . . Kayo rin. . .Magbago na rin ng isip. . .Sana po ay di nyo mamasamain ang ginawa kong ito. . .Money! Money! Money!”

  57. parasabayan - November 6, 2009 2:57 am

    Same same here Mike. Kung minsan nga eh nasa voting place na ako at buong buo na ang mga napili ko kaya lang may last minute change of heart pa ako dahil sa mga nadidiskubre na tungkol sa mga kandidato. Yung mukhang santo ngayon eh baka yun pa yung maraming skeleton sa closet niya. We can not be in a hurry in picking the right one sa panlasa ng bawat isa. Let us respect everyone’s choices. Healthy nga yung may exchange na katulad ng ginagawa natin dahil may nauungkat tayo tungkol sa mga ito at nakakatulong sa pagpili nating lahat ng kandidato na sa pagaakala natin eh makakatulong sa nakakaawang kalagayan ng bansa natin.

    Sige, debate pa!

  58. chi - November 6, 2009 3:00 am

    Detached ako sa tsismis as to their partners, it does not help in making the right choice. Hindi naman sila ang kandidato.

  59. henry90 - November 6, 2009 3:07 am

    Fan lang. . .di po fanatic. . .magagalit si Igan Tedanz nyan. . .hehehe

  60. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 6, 2009 3:10 am

    Candidates run on vision, their goals an objectives, their aspirations for the country. From these values which are inherent in the candidate, you form your platform in order to achieve those. You work out a plan, including the financial and logistical requirements, the time frame, all directed towards a target. Basic management. Noynoy should know that.

    Of all the candidates, Noynoy’s is probably the only one still unknown. You don’t work it backwards. It has to start with Noynoy’s vision. Not Drilon’s, not Roxas’. This is where leadership calls for only the competents and the prepared.

  61. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 6, 2009 3:14 am

    If Chiz joins Villar, Noynoy na ako.

  62. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 6, 2009 3:16 am

    If Noynoy coalesces with NPC, Erap na ako.

    If Gibo runs with Erap, neknek niya, Hahaha!

  63. henry90 - November 6, 2009 3:23 am

    That’s the advantage if u know someone up-close.Past affiliations are coincidental. . .Would u entrust ur child in a delicate operation to a doctor na di mo kilala at mapagkatiwalaan? No sir. . . U don’t easily get swayed here and there by what other people say about him. Can’t say the same thing about other candidates though. . . u go by what they say or not say in the media. . . often, u have to read between the lines. . .no contest kung pag usapan ang galing sa pagsasalita. . .talo si Noy doon. . .kaso lang di to oratorical contest. . . Magtitiwala ba ang tao sa yo na di ka mangungurakot? Yan ang pagbobotohan. . .At ang contest dito, paramihan ng boto. . .crazy? Sorry, last i heard, we are still a democracy, di ba Gloria?

  64. Mike - November 6, 2009 3:29 am

    Chi,
    I’m wary of people that’s surrounding the president especially spouses, one good example is FG and don’t forget Imeldific.

  65. parasabayan - November 6, 2009 3:32 am

    Hah,hah,hah…kaya nga wala pa akong manok dahil puro re-alignments pa ang nangyayari. When the dust settles doon pa lang maliwanag kung sino ang mga mamanukin ko sa presidentiables. After the last day of filing their certificate of candidacy, tsaka pa lang ako magsasalita kung sino ang gusto ko. Too early to say anything now.

  66. chi - November 6, 2009 3:33 am

    Heto ang sa akin: Chiz, Noynoy, Erap. Big NO to Villar and Gibo.

    Same here, if Chiz joins Villar dun ako sa number 2. Kung papalpak si Noynoy sa mga decisions before the elections kay Erap ako, kung tutuloy sya.

    But I predict LP and NP lang ang matitira, sobrang dali na ang choice niyan.

  67. chi - November 6, 2009 3:35 am

    Tsismis pa lang yan, Mike. Unfair naman kay Noynoy.

  68. henry90 - November 6, 2009 3:40 am

    And while we’re at it. I hope we all have learned our lessons. Kahit sino pang pinakamagaling na presidente ang manalo, kung si Chiz man basta sya ang ibonoto ng tao tatanggapin ko, if we will not make him accountable to the people, then wala ring kwenta. I hope that with decent candidates, we will have opinion-sensitive leaders who will have the best interest of the country first. Never again should we allow clones of Gloria to reign in our midst para ituloy ang kanyang mga nasimulan(read: Bigo) at di sya papanagutin(read: Money). . . goodbye Pilipinas na talaga pag nagka ganito pa uli. . .

  69. kapalmuks - November 6, 2009 3:41 am

    If Chiz joins Villar, I will probably vote only VP and local officials (IF the choices are good…which means OUT si Loren).

    But if Chiz joins Villar, I won’t vote for any presidential candidate. My vote is too valuable to throw away on crumbs.

  70. henry90 - November 6, 2009 3:42 am

    PSB:

    hahaha. . .kaw talaga mabiro. . . dami mo na kayang nasabi dun pa sa previous threads. . .hehehe. . . ok lang yan. . .freedom of expression. . . . peace mga kapatid. . .

  71. Mike - November 6, 2009 3:43 am

    Chi,
    Ya, I know tsismis lang yan. What I’m trying to point out lang is we should also be wary of people around the candidates. If you notice, Ellen also commented regarding Kris too (post #5).

    About my post (#53), I was just joking… reacting to PSB’s comment lang. Hehehe :)

  72. parasabayan - November 6, 2009 3:55 am

    Henry, marami akong nasabi sa previous threads and most of what I said were in defense of all candidates and also the defects of each and everyone of them (just from my point of view). In this respect, I am very consistent! You can read all my blogs and I told negative and positive things about almost all of them! Wala pa talaga akong napupusuan hanggang ngayon.

  73. kapalmuks - November 6, 2009 4:17 am

    parasabayan:

    “I wonder how all the pro-Chiz here would react if Chiz joins Villar. Chiz said, he will never join Villar but now he is changing his tune. Kung mag-explain daw si Villar sa Senate tungkol sa C5, Chiz will not close the door. Villar would be stupid to subject himself to the trigger happy presidentiables in the senate. Villar would as well have just put himself on the firing range ready for a bullseye shot or shots! I can see why Villar does not like to face his presidentiable colleagues. Daig pa niyang nagharakiri kapag nagkataon.”

    Baka naman mali lang ako. But from what I recall, Chiz said he couldn’t tie up with Villar because of the many charges on C5 that Villar hasn’t addressed directly. As far as I recall, Chiz followed up this same point in the same article that he would listen to Villar if the latter would explain his side on the C5 charges. I didn’t take that to mean that Chiz would consider teaming up with him. If anything, it told me he was challenging Villar to make a clean breast of what the latter’s been concealing all along, which doesn’t seem likely for the same reasons you had pointed out in your post: Villar would not want to be cross-examined in the Senate and would rather have Allan Cayetano, Gilbert Remulla and Adel Tamano fight his battles for him. So I don’t see how Chiz’s interview can be summed up as a change in his tune. He, Villar and the entire nation all know Villar will not talk about C5 in the Senate, and a Chiz-Villar tandem would therefore be impossible.

    But, as I said, in case that happens, then I’d withhold my vote for president rather than wasting it on anyone else in the race. By that point, all the candidates to me would be no better than crumbs:

    Noynoy’s character is suspect if he surrounds himself and counts among his advisers all those Code NGO/Peace Bonds racketeers from Black-and-White, misty-eyed for the same cabinet positions under a Noynoy presidency. His character is doubly suspect when he needs to rely on the LP party and its stalwarts (e.g., Drilon) who knew about the 2004 cheating as it was going on and tolerated it. So much for Cory/Ninoy. Anong laban nila at ni Noynoy kapag na-iangkas na nila ang mga buwayang iyan sa Malacanang? Edsa IV? Hmmm….

    As to Villar and Gibo, GMA is chanting, “Eenie meenie miney mo, sino’ng kandidato ko…Ba’t hindi sila’ng dal’wa?…Eenie meenie miney mo.” In fact, if Villar is really “galing sa mahirap,” I doubt he would be so cavalierly throwing money around as he is doing. In any case, even if GMA is not funding him, the staggering amounts he’s spending is just frightening: Are we to believe that he won’t try getting that back with a vengeance when he becomes president? He’ll be ten times worse than GMA…at this time, already the most crooked and worst president in history.

  74. parasabayan - November 6, 2009 4:29 am

    Talaga naman kayo oo. Tinanong ko lang kung si Chiz ay sasama kay Villar eh jump ship na kaagad kayo. If you really believe in someone, you have to respect his choices. The bottom line is siya pa rin yung iboboto ninyo at hindi yung paryido o yung mga taong nakapaligid sa kanya. This is why I understand those who are die hard with Noynoy because of their first hand experience with him. Ganun din kay Chiz, how he lives a simple life and so on and so forth.

  75. parasabayan - November 6, 2009 4:37 am

    Tsk tsk kung yung tao eh may sikap at tiyaga at yumaman, does that mean he is a crook? Mabuti pa wala na lang gagawin para umangat ang buhay kung ganun at aasa na lang sa wala. I do not buy this idea of pre-judging Villar because he made it in life. I am however questioning Erap with his new gadgets. Why all of a sudden eh meron siyang mga airplane (following the footsteps of sabit), helipcopters and a fleet of cars. Sabagay, if you have an ambition, you have to give it your very best. I know that may kanya kanyang mga donors and mga ito although they (Erap and Villar) may be able to fund their own campaign, meron at meron pa ring mga tulong ang mga ito galing sa iba’t ibang sector.

  76. cocoy - November 6, 2009 4:42 am

    Saka na lang ako mag comment pag may napili na ako.Pero maganda ang mga comments ni Tongue.

    Pareho kami ng pananaw ni Chi.

    Debate pa,para may mapupulot akong pananaw sa inyo kung sino ang pipiliin ko.Lagi na lang kasi akong talunan sa pinipili kong kandidato,gusto ko naman na manalo ang kandidatong iboboto ko sa susunod.

  77. kapalmuks - November 6, 2009 4:51 am

    Isa lang ang boto ko. Kaya mahalaga sa akin iyon. Nakatali iyon sa prinsipyo ng isang tuwid na pamahalaan.

    Hindi mag-ju-jump ship ang boto ko. Inaasahan ko lang naman na hindi rin mag-ju-jump ship ang kandidato ko mula sa kanyang prinsipyo.

  78. chi - November 6, 2009 5:00 am

    Of course, PSB, dahil hindi na presidente ang laban ni Chiz ayon sa tanong mo. E kung wala akong listahan na alternate niya sa top post at makalusot si Villar or Gibo, I don’t want to blame myself. Dun na ako na sa palagay ko ay safer bets.

    Kung mag-jump ship si Chiz, based again on your question, e di mas nauna pa siya kesa sa amin. Why do I have to follow him if I don’t like the party/presidentiable he’d choose to join with. That is the power of free will and respect of one’s choice. Hindi kelangang sundan sya hanggang kubeta.

  79. chi - November 6, 2009 5:00 am

    Sakto, kapalmuks.

  80. florry - November 6, 2009 5:09 am

    Noynoy: ‘No point in competing with my parents’
    If Noynoy said that, it’s the only thing that he made himself very clear so far, otherwise he’s so incoherent, vague and boring.

    It’s true he has no need competing with his parents; they are not his opponents but only props and uses them as his gravy train riding it as far as it goes and squeezing dry the sauce up to last drop. Meaning he is an ultimate USER.

    In the interview, if not a hypocritical, childish and non-sense, try this:

    Che Che: Why are you talking to him (To Erap about unification?)

    Noynoy: He does represent a certain segment of the population.

    Holy mackerel and holy cow! What kind of answer was that? Did he understand the question? Maybe a screw in his antennae got loose. And so what? Everybody on his own right represents the population. Why did he not just answer that he needs the votes of Erap’s supporters to win? Talking of hypocrisy! He thought he made himself appeared smart, but in the process he made himself look like a school kid and a HYPOCRITE.

    And he is running for president!

  81. Tedanz - November 6, 2009 5:12 am

    Kayo talaga puro walang bilib sa mga minamanok. Gayahin niyo ako … Erap is my guy. Kung hindi siya puwede … doon naman ako sa iniendorso niya .. gaya ng sabi ko wag lang Villar at Gibo.

  82. Tedanz - November 6, 2009 5:15 am

    Bakit kayo nagngingitngit kay Noynoy sa mga sagot niya … kung meron naman na kayong napili. Relaks lang mga Igan.

  83. chi - November 6, 2009 5:25 am

    Kaya nga, tedanz, ang sabi ko dun sa kabilang loop ay bilib ako sa iyo dahil may listahan ka pero hindi mo iniiwan si Erap. Pero meron ka ring parameter, “wag lang Villar at Gibo.”

    In other words, hindi mo rin kayang lunukin ang dalawa, at hindi mo rin susundin si Erap sa kasong ito, di ba?

  84. Tedanz - November 6, 2009 5:42 am

    chi,
    Basta’t dumikit ka kay Glorya o kahit sino mang madikit dito … ibang usapan na yan. Sa tinagal tagal na nagngingitngit tayo sa taong ito at ang kanyang pamilya dito sa ellenville … tapos iboboto pa natin yong mga taong dikit dito … hindi ko style yan … kaya’t kahit si Chiz noon ay talagang wala sa aking listahan dahil sa nalilinya siya sa mga taong dikit kay Glorya at siya mismo ay ina-anak. Pero dahil umalis siya sa kanyang partido at medyo mas mahal niyang Ninang si Susan Roces … kaya kahit papano nasa aking listahan … basta iendorso ni Erap at hindi tatakbo si Erap.

  85. chi - November 6, 2009 5:55 am

    Klaro, tedanz. I like your openness.

    “…mas mahal niyang Ninang si Susan Roces…”, hahaha! Katwiran yan ng mga tiyahin ko a (of course dahil kay Da King).

  86. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 6, 2009 7:26 am

    Know Your Presidentiable Quiz Show:

    Host: Contestant #1, Sino’ng presidentiable ang nakalista sa Pinoy Records? Five seconds to answer.

    Contestant #1: Alam ko yan…teka…Si Villar! Tama, si Villar! Final answer, Villar!

    (Buzzer) KRRRINNG!

    Host: Correct! Bakit naman ninyo nasabing si Villar?

    Contestant #1: Kasi sabi niya sama-sama sila sa iisang kulambo e pito silang magkakapatid, plus nanay at tatay e di siyam sila. Napakalaking kulambo po no’n kaya kala ko yun yung Pinoy Record.

    Host: Tama sana yung sagot mo kaso mali yung dahilan. Si Villar ang sagot dahil siya ang pinakamayamang Senador, anyway may one point ka! (palakpakan)

    Host: Contestant #2, pag hindi mo ito nasagot panalo na si Contestant #1. Ang tanong – Anong paninindigan ni Noynoy Aquino tungkol sa patuloy na pag-alis ng mga Pilipino para magtrabaho sa abroad? You have five seconds.

    Contestant #2: Ha, nakup…(kamot ng ulo) eh…ano ho…eh… Hindi ko ho yata alam iyan.

    (Buzzer) KRRRINNG!

    Host: CORRECT! It’s a tie! (palakpakan)

  87. henry90 - November 6, 2009 7:44 am

    With the kind permission of Tongue:

    Know your Presidentiable Quiz Show Part 2:

    Host: Ano sa palagay mo ang dahilan ni Cheese kung bakit siya umalis sa NPC? Pondo? Ayaw na nya kay Danding? Gusto nya ng Bagong Pagbabago? You have five seconds! Go!

    Contestant # 3: Sa palagay ko lahat kasi blah blah blah. . .yakkity yakkity yakkk. . .
    (Buzzer} KRRRINNG!

    Host: Time is up! Wala kang naisagot! Puro ka kasi daldal! Isa lang ang tanong, dami mong paikot-ikot!(Crowd booing!)

  88. SumpPit - November 6, 2009 7:57 am

    Midway from the first page, i jumped right thru the end, hoping to find coherence, “tangible”, doable, answers. But sadly, there’s none.

    Cory’s legacy is only the removal of Marcos who, with the benefit of hindsight, turned out to be the best president ever. Marcos have a more comprehensive Industrialization Plan, which every succeeding administrations sought to destroy by selling critical assets to private corporation. Read Economic Hitman by john Perkins to fully understand what i’m talking about.

    If Cory is for the people, why she hasn’t implemented the Waterfuel Technology of Engr. Daniel Dingel? Cory was shown on TV Patrol driving/riding on a Toyota Corolla fueled with water. Yet, after a week, Dingel was advised to talk to the Central Bank Governor.

    This country have been ruled by the Bankers, and not by an Elected President, eversince EDSA ’86.

    I am looking for someone who is not afraid to bring the fight of the people head on. Cory did not fight for the interest of the people. And so her son.

    I am looking for a Solution-Oriented President.

    He is not it.

  89. Ellen - November 6, 2009 8:56 am

    Chiz will never join Villar.

    Parasabayan et al, I don’t know where you got your information. Chiz is not joining Villar.

    PSB, if you got that from Villar’s camp, it speaks a lot of the kind of disinformation that they are waging. That’s dirty politics.

    But I think Kapalmuks #73 has pointed out that you interpreted wrongly Chiz’s statement.

  90. perl - November 6, 2009 9:10 am

    Dapat si Noynoy ipa-interview kay Jessica Soho

  91. Ellen - November 6, 2009 9:10 am

    This one, I got from a reliable, reliable source:

    Immediately after the Club Filipino presscon where Chiz announced he was leaving NPC, Jinggoy called up asking him to join his father’s ticket. Chiz said,sorry, he is not interested.

    The next call came from Adel Tamano, whom we all know is now with Villar. Adel (who is a friend of Chiz because he was the spokesman of GO party in 2007) reiterated Villar’s offer to be his vice president. Chiz said, “No.”

    A friend said Chiz was so appalled and hurt by the calls of these two. “Vultures”, my friend said.

  92. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 6, 2009 9:18 am

    Bakit kay Jessica Soho pa, kayang-kayang talupan ni Ellen yan.

    Kaya lang pag sinagot siya ng kapareho ng sagot kay Cheche, baka mapudpod yung tape recorder kaka-rewind dahil mahirap igawa ng transcript, lalo kung yung sagot na ganito:

    Yung, one time nga, kid, candy favorite. Talagang hoarding, talagang savoring each and every morsel of it. Suddenly, dad got the bag, and started–and told me, “‘Lika dito,” –my dad, magkasama kami. And everybody, he’d give the candy to. Talagang, even if they wanted a different bag, “Kumuha kayo rito.” Then my job, giving me the bag, empty the bag.

  93. AdeBrux - November 6, 2009 9:20 am

    Like Tongue, I found the interview (at least the trascript) quite a bore. After 1 page, you’d think interviewer and interviewee had exhausted the past but it went on and on.

    Never mind. I had to go through the whole boring script diligently hoping to find something interesting, something that I could reflect on, even a sound byte to titilate my bored mind but nope… there was nothing in that interview that told me that we had a president in the making.

    I cut and pasted a whole raft of Q&A on my word document and dissected them but there was nothing remotely interesting or forward looking. Nope, I was not impressed.

  94. AdeBrux - November 6, 2009 9:22 am

    Re Chiz: I like kapalmuks’ take (- November 6, 2009 4:17 am):

    I learned a lot. Thanks, kapalmuks!

  95. AdeBrux - November 6, 2009 9:25 am

    Villar is a shithead. He and his wife would sleep with the devil to achieve their goal.

    These two are as bad as Gloria and Mike Pidal.

    Both are two-timing whores.

  96. Pepito - November 6, 2009 9:33 am

    I still could not get an idea of what NoyNoy’s agriculture platform is. All I have read so far (from the Cheche interview and Inquirer and other columns) is that Noynoy can not separate family/Hacienda Luisita from thinking about Filipino farmers and agriculture self-sufficiency and other policies. So what happens when his sisters’ interests (or his best friends or supporters’ interests) are affected by policies that benefit the majority?

  97. luzviminda - November 6, 2009 9:38 am

    Well sa’kin lang, hindi porke’t kumalas ang isang politiko sa kanyang partido at nagsolo, ay nagbago na ang pagkatao. Madaling kumalas sa isang grupo at magtayo ng isang bagong grupo, pero ang nasasaloob niya ay siya lang ang tunay na nakaka-alam.

  98. saxnviolins - November 6, 2009 9:59 am

    Ellen:

    Matagal pa ang Semana Santa. Kalbaryong basahin ang interview na yan. Si Ninoy, napakinggan ko sa radyo noong sixth grade ako – bombastic. Si Noynoy, mas soporific pa sa valium.

    Kung si Ninoy troso ng kahoy, si Noynoy toothpick.

    Kung si Ninoy bloke ng karne, si Noynoy tinga.

    Mabait, morally upright? Well go and run for the Papacy, not the presidency.

  99. saxnviolins - November 6, 2009 10:05 am

    Q: Yung peace process. Pa’no mo ihahandle yun?

    A: Yung long term, tagal ko ng dream ‘to, my original idea is cross-pollination. We bring in students from Mindanao, distribute them to the Visayas and Luzon, and you get students from Luzon and Visayas and have them educated there.

    Wow. How original. Ginawa na yan nila Arthur Macarthur (tatay ni Douglas Macarthur). Kaya nga si Salipada Pendatun graduated from UP one year (1938) before Marcos (1939).

  100. henry90 - November 6, 2009 10:11 am

    Ayos! Ayon nga sa kasabihan, tingnan na lang natin sa kurbada. . .Sa mga mananalo, humanda kayo sa mga batikos ng mga talunan at sa mga kakampi nila. . .Sa mga matatalo, well, magpalamig na lang muna kayo at kumandidatong muli. . .baka mananalo na kayo sa susunod. . .hehehe

  101. Ellen - November 6, 2009 10:16 am

    Kapalmuks: In fact, if Villar is really “galing sa mahirap,” I doubt he would be so cavalierly throwing money around as he is doing. In any case, even if GMA is not funding him, the staggering amounts he’s spending is just frightening: Are we to believe that he won’t try getting that back with a vengeance when he becomes president? He’ll be ten times worse than GMA…at this time, already the most crooked and worst president in history.

    As of last month, information from Nielsen (the group tracking TV ads and ratings) showed Villar has spent over P700 million for TV ads. Official campaign period starts on Feb. 9, 2010 yet.

  102. parasabayan - November 6, 2009 10:17 am

    This time Ellen, I read it in the Abante. Next time I say anything about Chjiz, I will make sure I give you the link.

  103. rose - November 6, 2009 10:49 am

    if putot runs as vice president would it mean Gibo-gloria? nakakatakot…it would be a nightmare!

  104. Becky - November 6, 2009 10:50 am

    I read somewhere in the interview (ang hirap balikan sa haba) that Noynoy said he was undergoing therapy? For what?

  105. saxnviolins - November 6, 2009 10:55 am

    if putot runs as vice president would it mean Gibo-gloria? nakakatakot…it would be a nightmare!

    Good. Let Erap slide down to VP as well. Yan ang talagang battle royale -mag-pinsan haciendero sa tuktok, ex-presidents sa baba.

    Either way, gutom pa rin ang mahihirap.

  106. AdeBrux - November 6, 2009 11:03 am

    Henry,

    I understand your support for Noynoy. The appalling 10 years of misgovernance in this country are enough to make any sensible person want the exact opposite of Gloria.

    Your loyalty towards Noynoy does you honour. You were with the PSG and probably know more about him more than all of us combined.

    Allow me this comparisson: I know Volt Gazmin very well too, I like him too – I think he’s a decent chap but believe me my loyalty to Volt is not enough incentive to even believe he is qualified to be president of the Philippines.

    However, given the “quality” of candidates or the limited choices on offer, there is indeed a chance that Noynoy might win, after all, he seems to be diametrically opposed to Gloria, to Erap, to Villar, etc., a kind of young rose bud that the country needs to relieve itself of the stench. But his “winnability” will not alter the fact that in my book, he is not presidential material.

  107. AdeBrux - November 6, 2009 11:08 am

    You may have noticed that I’ve been quite careful in my “dissection” of Noynoy. I do not put him down in the same way I put down Villar. That’s because I sense decency in the man.

  108. monsagullo - November 6, 2009 11:46 am

    After aggravating the nausea I am nursing from the flu because of trying to make head or tail of what Noynoy was talking about, I was left with one impression: he sounded like decent man, incoherent, but decent. Though, as far as my bias is concerned, he did not exhibit the kind of intellectual cohesiveness and decisive character I believe the next president needs to substantially put into motion the revolutionary changes the country is in dire need of.

    If Noynoy trusts the likes of Drillon and the folks comprising the “I got my ‘piece” from the peace bond,” then I personally cannot entrust him the mantle of getting this country off this mire.

    My president would be one who can sell his vision to the “big businesses,” domestic and foreign, that is a wise and moral investment to alleviate poverty through better education, better wages, better opportunities, by helping the government in dramatically curbing out the unabated corruption we now have to live with, so the government can provide better services to the majority of the people.

    Electing Erap proved [to me] that our “democracy” amidst the imposed poverty and deprived of education electorate, is seriously sick; that our “democracy” needs more than just decency or glibness. And the scheming of Gloria’s cabals how to nullify the sadly wasted-by Erap “democratic will of the people” also proved [to me] that we need a person with an uncompromising vision that can galvanize the people to join, and *participate* with “the team.” At the very least, discourage those who disagree from even thinking of tripping “the team” where it is headed: a viable “democracy” where poverty is not the norm.

    I cannot afford not to hold on to this hope that such a person will arise, but looking at the current list of presidential aspirants, it would be wise for me not to hold my breath :-)

    Besides, politics they say is the “art of making a compromise.” Lagi kasing batuhan ng pangako at tapunan ng “mga pakong napako” eh ang karamihang hirap at salat.

  109. monsagullo - November 6, 2009 11:51 am

    “mga pangakong napako” It’s the flu :-)

  110. AdeBrux - November 6, 2009 12:01 pm

    I would like a straight shooting president. Someone who will jail corrupt people.

  111. AdeBrux - November 6, 2009 12:02 pm

    Someone who will jail Gloria and her piggy husband.

  112. florry - November 6, 2009 12:03 pm

    Henry: “Host: Time is up! Wala kang naisagot! Puro ka kasi daldal! Isa lang ang tanong, dami mong paikot-ikot!(Crowd booing!)”

    You’re right Henry. Napuna mo rin pala yong interview kay Noynoy, simula pa lang, isang tanong, dalawang tanong – kilo-kilometro at halo-halo ang sagot. Hindi tuloy malaman kung anong tanong ang sinasagot. Ang labo no.

    Madaldal din pala siya, akala ko wala siyang dila dahil tahimik.

  113. Mike - November 6, 2009 12:21 pm

    “Q: Yung peace process. Pa’no mo ihahandle yun?

    A: Yung long term, tagal ko ng dream ‘to, my original idea is cross-pollination. We bring in students from Mindanao, distribute them to the Visayas and Luzon, and you get students from Luzon and Visayas and have them educated there.”

    Nakupo, eh paano kung naipadala dito sa Manila ay alagad ng abu sayaff na nagpapanggap na magaaral at ipinadala naman galing dito papuntang VisMin eh kamaganak nila Pidal? Gulo sa Manila at ubos naman ang lahat ng natitirang kayamanan ng VisMin.

  114. AdeBrux - November 6, 2009 12:25 pm

    Hahahahah! Mike, I almost fell off my seat… LOL!

  115. Mike - November 6, 2009 12:44 pm

    @Adebrux: “I would like a straight shooting president. Someone who will jail corrupt people…. “Someone who will jail Gloria and her piggy husband.”

    Chiz: “Pero bago ko buksan ‘yon, tatanungin ko ang taong bayan kung yan ba ang gusto nila o hindi.”

    Noynoy: “At the end of the day, I want closure. Yung pasensyahan na lang kung san umabot.”

    Yan ang hindi ko gusto sa mga sagot nila. Dapat walang compromise, presidente ka and it’s his decision to grant or not a pardon. Di yung itatanong mo pa sa tao kung ano gusto nila. Parang Pontius Pilate ang dating eh. Malaki ang kasalanan ni Gloria sa taong bayan, anong pasensya??? Duh!?

  116. Mike - November 6, 2009 12:56 pm

    A candidate who will answer NO when ask if he will grant pardon to Gloria et. al. once convicted will surely get my vote. No ifs, no buts, just a simple NO.

  117. Mike - November 6, 2009 12:59 pm

    Even Erap said that he might grant pardon to Gloria since he had already forgiven her. WTF, di lang naman sa kanya may kasalanan si Gloria ah! That’s BS!!!

  118. Mike - November 6, 2009 1:22 pm

    What if majority of Pinoy’s tell Pres. Chiz, “sige pakawalan mo na. Kawawa naman eh”. Sadly, it is a probability since a lot of Pinoy’s have short memories. A lot have already forgotten about the late dictator’s atrocities. Bummer!

  119. florry - November 6, 2009 1:36 pm

    @Adebrux: “I would like a straight shooting president. Someone who will jail corrupt people…. “Someone who will jail Gloria and her piggy husband.”

    Chiz: “Pero bago ko buksan ‘yon, tatanungin ko ang taong bayan kung yan ba ang gusto nila o hindi.”

    Noynoy: “At the end of the day, I want closure. Yung pasensyahan na lang kung san umabot”

    To be fair these two are candidates and they would not like to sound like a dictator. We are in a democratic country and let the wheel of justice turns it course. Everything should be done in accordance with the rule of law. Presidents should not interfere, influence or dictate to the Justice dept as well as the Legislative. We’ve been very critical of how Gloria prostituted and corrupted the other branches of the government to suit her whims so I think we should not be going back to her barbaric ways. We will be making a mess again instead of reforming it.

    First thing that must be done however is to dismantle the moat-like protective barrier that Gloria built around her and family. Get rid of Gutierez who can not find any fault on the evil deeds of her masters. That’s only for starters and after that everything will be fine.

    Chiz answer I think gives a hint of positive thinking, what he really likes; only he can not say an outright Yes. By saying that he will refer to the people, he knows and everyone knows that majority of the people want Gloria to go to jail.

    Noynoy on the other hand just contented himself with a closure, pasensiyahan na lang kahit na makalibre si Gloria.

    We have a choice.

  120. tru blue - November 6, 2009 1:53 pm

    After the May 2010 elections, and whoever sits on the throne, a new dawn of corruptions breeds. It’s my prediction, 99.99 percent – take that to the bank! Xman, take note of the date and time I made this prediction.

    Then again; two or three years from now, I was so wrong, the economy is going good, the new prez was otherwise, so you better thank me for a “worthless fortune telling”.

  121. tru blue - November 6, 2009 2:07 pm

    Until an execution style is imposed to any corrupt president, there will be no light at the end of the tunnel.
    Macoy, his henchmen, wife and children are all enjoying their loots. Same can be said to Cory, Fidel, Erap, and Gloria’s cluster of friends and relatives.

    Some of these thugs needs to be executed by firing squad or better yet, let them dance where their feet cannot find the dancefloor.

    Fear needs to be instilled in this type of immoralities. Everyday the sun comes, kawawa pa rin si Juan at Marya.

  122. tru blue - November 6, 2009 2:17 pm

    Noynoy was a member of the country’s human rights committee?
    Crap!, and he let those lowly farmers at Hacienda Luisita get pummeled by the PSG?

    If he only did the opposite in hindsight, stepped in between the PSG and the poor farmers to show compassion, I do believe he would be a different person today.

    Agree with most in here; it’s a too good to be true chatter.

  123. xonix - November 6, 2009 4:19 pm

    tama si ellen, puro nakaraan ang pinaguusapan. parang dinidikit lamang kay cory at ninoy.

    pero bago ang lahat, harapin naman natin ang katotohanan. si tita cory isa ang tunay na ginawa at iyan ay hindi siya namilit manatili sa posisyon.

    bukod, duon. wala. panahon niya katakot takot na brownouts. panahon niya walang tigil na coup. panahon niya grabe rin ang corruption.

    unless tanggapin natin iyan walang patutunguhan ang usapang ito.

    matindi pa nito, totoong maraming magnanakaw at abusadong negosyante sa panahon ni macoy pero pag pasok ni cory, balik din ang mga iyan. tingnan niyo itong mga lopez na nagmamay-ari ng meralco at channel 2.

    mga ayalas. higit sa lahat, ano ginawa ni cory laban kay danding na pinsan niya. wala. pero higit sa lahat, sino ang mastermind sa pagpatay kay ninoy.

    nakulong ang mga sundalong pobre pero ang mastermind, ayaw tanggapin ni cory. sino ba talaga.

    si noynoy, ganundin din, tingnan niyo naka paligid sa kanya. mga dating tauhan ni gloria. mga evil society. hind ba sila kumita sa panahon ng peace bond at kung ano ano pa.

    wala nga silang kibo at pumalag lamang nung panahon ng hello garci dahil akala nila bibigay si putot.

    si noynoy ayaw rin harapin ang kaso ni datilles. yung babaing namatay na kasama niya nuong coup. patayan sa hacienda luisita.

    sagutin niya muna ito. of course si villar dapat sagutin din ang singit at taga at land grabbing issue.

    lahat ng kandidato dapat managot.

    tapos linawin niya rin, pakukulong niya ba si gma o hindi.

  124. xonix - November 6, 2009 4:23 pm

    paalala natin mga insulares at peninsulares. hindi ba yan ang tawag sa mga taong umaabuso nung panahong iyon. paano pa ang kamaganak inc.

    yan ang sinasabi natin, napaalis si marcos, napaalis mga crony niya. pumalit si cory, balik naman ang mga pinaalis ni cory.

    pasok si tabako, iba naman at nadagdagan pa. kay erap, wow, dumami pa lalo. kay gma, naipon na lahat. everybody happy except mahihirap na katulad natin.

    kaya nga ayaw ko ng taong suportado ng big business at partido, aasikasuhin interest ng mga tumulong sa kanila.

    utang na loob dapat sa sambayanan at hindi sa iilan.

  125. middlemarch - November 6, 2009 6:13 pm

    I am a regular reader of this blog but this is my first time to post a comment. I read the transcript from start to finish. Like a number of you here I was dismayed by the incoherent and sloppy responses Noynoy gave to the questions. This is most apparent in the first 2 pages. He starts with one idea and frequently veers off into various other ideas tangential to the original one. Needless to say, I am worried about what this says about his mental discipline.

    However, on page 3, one really gets a glimpse of his presidential agenda, priorities, and stand on various issues. I made an effort to set aside his annoying verbal tics and thought meanderings as though clearing brush, and I have to admit that his plans for running the country give me hope that here is someone willing to do what it takes to right years of GMA-instigated wrongs. (Direct quotes below)

    ON WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO ABOUT CORRUPTION:

    Q: Oo. Pano mo susugpuin yun?
    A: Sasample ka. Yung corruption laws are there. They’re supposed to be modules of other countries. Pero yung certainty ng punishment when you commit a crime is not there. I’m told that an average six years of gestation ng bawat case. Look at the chief justice when he had this Justice on Wheels program, they went to the Bicol area, I think, Quezon also. They disposed of close to three thousand cases in two days or three days. So balik kaya dito kasi kaya eh. We have been even imagining how we’ll do it and who are the people you will task to do it no? And part of, if we’re lucky, the inauguration speech will contain a provision that will be asking for an increase in the size of the bilibid. We will also have a certainty na, yung pasensyahan na lang tayo pag kayo’y, hindi niyo kami sinersyoso, kami seryosong-seryoso sa inyo. But on the other hand, that’s the stick. We also want the carrot. Why do you make it impossible for somebody to behave, to behave properly. For instance, the president makes fifty thousand pesos per month, gross. And then the salary standardization law, it will be increased to sixty nine thousand or thereabouts. Parang big deal, no?

    Q: Masyadong mababa?
    A: Parang maski sinong ilagay mo dun panong hindi matutukso? How can he sustain even if he had only one child to send to a proper school in a salary like that? So, it’s not realistic, ano? So, let’s give them all a fighting chance, so the people we’re asking to behave, na hindi yung pagpunta diyan, pasama ng pasama yung sitwasyon na to make it impossible for them. So maybe yung difference is, there will be that enforced law, but the second aspect is ano, there has to be a recognition that the carrot has long been, there’s no carrot actually. It’s coming, it should be there. Yung rewards system for instance sa attrition law, I’m told, yung parang, if you meet your goals or you surpass your goals, you’re given an x amount. Bonus. The private sector does that. If you don’t reach your goals, you’re given a reprimand and eventually, you’re terminated.

    ON WHAT HIS PRESIDENCY’S PRIORITIES WILL BE:

    Q: First day?
    A: First day, first week. Yung first week, I think, at the very least, yung first week, we will demonstrate the idea namin nang, pabibilisin namin yung process ng justice. Sabay na rin dun sa fight ng corruption. Kung ba–

    Q: Yun ang una mong aatupagin? Corruption and justice
    A: That has to be, otherwise all the other interventions won’t work. Look at the fertilizer scam. Yung last year we were tackling the 2009 budget, tapos yung core report on the 2007 expenditures. Ang lumabas dun, merong NGO na dalawang beses binigyan ng farm inputs, money for the farm inputs –it’s the same NGO, the same problem, according to the COA doesn’t exist, yung at least in allocation that they said. Tapos yung five hundred thousand in 2004, binigyan ng 34 million in 2007. Yung ano, para bang di lang sa nahuli na, di man lang nahiya na itago, lalo pang pinalaki yung krimen. Pero, hindi nga ako pupunta dyan sa lumipas, baka from the first day, yung aking watch na, dun kami magpapakita na seryoso kami dito. The idea is maimbestigahan, makasuhan within one week.

    Q: Bakit importante sa yo yun?
    A: Para lahat will tow the line, hindi kami nagbibiro. Wag nila i-dilute, lahat itong mga intervention na ito, I said, yung magmo-monitor ka kunwari ng fertilizer input program, okay. Meron stages of growth ang plant. Namo-monitor na kagad yun eh. Para kaagad, may systems built in na pag niloko ‘to at some point in time, huli kaagad. Hindi eventually. The consciousness kasi is six years. You have to effect the changes.

    ON THE REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH BILL:

    Q: Sige ha, Noy, isa-isahin natin ha kasi iniisa-isa namin. RH bill, ano yung stand mo dito?
    A: We have doubled our population from EDSA, and yung every time na you go to a community, nandyan pa rin yung stereotype: yung nanay na may infant, may dalawang nakatangan sa palda at talagang walang trabaho yung pamilya, ganun. Yung, sinabi ko lang, at kinakagalit ng simbahan, aminin natin may issue na kailangan i-educate lahat. Actually, educate sa akin. First focus is, parents have a responsibility to the children they’ll be bringing in. Therefore, there’s a need to plan their family, to meet the needs adequately. As to how to plan their family, the church can, well the state cannot intervene, the church, can participate in the education programs na advocacy. Pero at the end of the day, bahala yung mag-asawa sa pamilya nila. Tumulong, gumabay ang estado. I don’t advocate also yung drastic regimes like the one China, Singapore, Japan did, ano? All of those I think have gone the way, parang they’ve reversed themselves, no? Their problem now is how to increase their populations. So, I don’t agree, yung alam mo yun, it goes back to the central credit, bahala yung mag-asawa. Gabayan natin, bigyan natin, eto yung options. At lahat nung simbahan na gustong magparticipate, sumali sila dun sa education na yun.

    Q: Di ka takot sa simbahan na sasabihin, “Etong si Noynoy eh…”
    A: Ang turo ng simbahan kasi sa kin, may konsensya kang dapat magsabi sa akin kung anong dapat kong gawin.

    Q: You will support the RH Bill?
    A: To certain safeguards. For instance, may provisions nga dun sa artificial, okay? Problema ko lang dun, budget item yun. Yung budget na hindi ginagastos nawawala. Baka yung budget na nandyan, available, baka itulak, ipilit yung, yung horror stories when I was growing up was, pumunta dun consultation, paglabas dun na ligation. Yung, hindi ako papayag, dapat may actions yung ganun.

    Q: Pag sapilitan?
    A: Oo. Pag may mali yung tinuturo, for instance, dahil para maipromote yung ganitong produkto, no? Another product. Yung pag nawala sila sa function nila to educate at naging advocator, whatever, medyo, you’re advocate for this or that particular instrument in artificial issue sa kin yun.

    Q: But you will make, for example, pills and artificial methods available?
    A: I think the state should have those. Kasi yun yung pinaka-endangered eh.

    ON THE PORK BARREL:

    Q: Pork barrel?
    A: Baka ma-modify namin but we’re still undergoing the process of consulting. Basta the idea is, ayan carrot and stick. We’ll remove it, but once removing it, we’ll replace yung parang we increase the funds available to the congressman to handle the district concerns– kailangan ng tuition, kailangan ipagamot, kailangan ipalibing, etc. Yung, a congressman for instance has staff members–six. A councilor of Manila has twenty-four. Yung, ang point is, pa’no ba kung ang idea is, wag natin nada-dilute lahat ng projects, kayang gawin yun. Removing, kung hintayin niyo siya naman yun, ang kapalit nun, we need the cooperation of congress also, there has to be a way whereby their needs also are met, and the needs of the constituents are met.

    Q: So you will not remove it?
    A: Subject to negotiation. At the most, baka something like President Erap’s limited, specific areas.

    On EO 464:

    Q: EO 464.
    A: No such thing under my term. There has to be transparency. Kung tama yung ginagawa niyo, bakit hindi pwedeng magstand ng scrutiny? At kung sobrang bababuyin naman ang other branches of government, di yung taong bayan na siguro ang magtatanggol sa amin dun.

    WILL HE PROSECUTE GMA? (I think the last sentence ‘Yung pasensyahan na lang kung san umabot’ has been misunderstood by some people here. Taken in the context of his strong stand on corruption, I believe what he means is ‘sorry na lang, GMA, kung kulungan ang kahihinatnan mo.’ When I first read this sentence, it NEVER occurred to me that Noynoy would be soft on GMA. I read it as a declaration that justice would be meted out, no one is above the law. And really, isn’t it reassuring to have a presidential candidate who is such a staunch defender of democracy that he would respect the rights even of his enemies?)

    Q: Si GMA ba kakasuhan mo?
    A: First of all, I want closure dun sa many issues and she seems to be either directly, peripherally involved in some of these. Having said that, my father did teach me rather that democracy’s test is your ability to defend the rights of your enemies, especially, not just of your friends. Yung paniwala niya, pag pumayag kang may maapi yung isang grupo, eventually lahat ng grupo aapihin. Yung grupo ng lipunan, ano? So kung ayaw mong ikaw na lang ang natitirang aapihin, ay siguraduhin mo sa umpisa pa lang pinagtanggol mo na yung karapatan mo. So, in our system, innocent until proven guilty. I will ensure that she gets all of her rights–people around her, etc, members of this current administration. At the end of the day, I want closure. Yung pasensyahan na lang kung san umabot.

    ON PUBLIC SERVICE:

    Q: Anong sagot mo dun? Kasi sabi mo kanina, talagang iniwasan mo yung ipaalam sa mga tao kung ano yung mga ginawa mo. Bakit mo ginawa yun? Para kang hindi pulitiko.
    A: Public servant ang tingin ko sa sarili ko eh.

    Q: Ano bang deperensya?
    A: May kontrata ka sa tao eh. Lahat kayo nagsabi, “Paglilingkuran namin kayo.” Tumupad ako sa usapan namin. Tapos, sasabihin ko, “Hoy, dapat masaya kayo tinupad ko yung usapan natin,” ang labo naman yata nun. Yung the people should really have a right to expect expert performance from their representatives, people that they gave this opportunity to. Yung there are others naman who’ve been with us, specifically, “What did you do here,” etc. Meron namang nagsasabi rin kung ano talaga.

    ON WHETHER HE HAS ANY TREPIDATION ABOUT EMBARKING ON A PRESIDENTIAL RUN:

    Q: But knowing what’s on the other side of the trench, doesn’t that make you afraid?
    A: If I let myself be afraid, then baka fear would lead into inaction and to a delusion of what should be, should have and could have been already. If there’s one fear or anxiety, I use it as the main motivating factor. If we are successful in this campaign, hopefully by the time it ends we will all be able to say, “Eto’ng nagawa!” versus “Sinubukan namin ang makakakaya namin.” And lately, with all the studies that we’ve been doing and lately is like the last two weeks also, again, a lot of the problems are not that intractable. Magugulat ka na ganun yung revenues for instance, we’ve readjusted the deficit ceiling by, I think, three times already and we were supposed to have balanced budget already by now. So sabi, “Pa’no kang babayad nung deficit sa lahat ng programa, polisiya’t proyekto ng gobyerno?” Tapos pinakita sa kin yung leakages sa revenue collection at magugulat ka na kung gano kalaki ang idadagdag dun sa revenues. Just by not doing anything yun, but doing what is already there.

    ON THE LEGACY HE WANTS TO LEAVE AS PRESIDENT:

    Q: What kind of president will you be?
    A: Somebody who would be missed the day after he steps down. Yung, perhaps ano, somebody who’ll be so boring dahil everything works na, finally.

    Q: That’s the kind of president you want to be?
    A: That’s the drill. At sabi ko, baka nga ganun ang mangyari, kung talaga namang ginagawa niyo, ayos na. Umaasenso yung bayan, nagkakaroon talaga ng opportunities for everybody, baka nga–

    Q: –But you have to be a ruthless, a no-nonsense president before that happens?
    A: Alam naman ng mga nakakakilala sa akin gaano ako ka–nine years kong pinagtiyagaan yung budget ng AFP among others. Sabi sa kin nung panahon na yun, kasi the one, at sa congress ko pa napasa yun, no? Human rights, kinakalaban mo tong kapulisan, tong sundalong may baril. O, pumunta tayo sa budget, pinatulan mo na naman, puro may mga baril. Hindi ka ba kinakabahang mababaril ka nitong mga ‘to? Sabi ko, hindi ko kayang maging ostrich.

    Q: Hindi mo kayang maging ostrich.
    A: Kasi lahat nung ’97, nung financial crisis, ’98 yung kami yung nakaupo, hinahanapan kami ng mga kababayan namin ng kung anu-ano. Pag umikot kami sa lahat ng ahensya ng gobyerno, puro mga walang pera, tapos nilulustay nitong mga ‘to.

    Based on this interview, I think Noynoy: (1) has a clear sense of priorities, that is, address corruption and make the institutions of government work effectively and efficiently, (2) has the political will to reverse the degradation wrought by 9 years of wrongdoing under GMA, (3) at the same time, has a bias for consultative and participatory democracy, (4) despite what looks like slipshod thinking, appreciates the nuances and devil-in-the-details aspects of policy formulation, therefore, he will not make sweeping, impulsive decisions without first looking at the issues from all angles and perspectives.

    On the other hand, without a doubt, he has a communication problem. Kris ought to read this transcript and, in his presence, critique it for clarity, coherence, and succinctness. He needs to stop saying “at this point in time” and stop starting his sentences with “yung” and ending them with “no?” Very annoying. Forget bombastic, we’ll settle for clarity. And okay, his ideas may not be earth-shaking, but really, why are we in dire straits right now? It is not for want of brilliant ideas; it is for want of the will to do the right thing. Noynoy, it seems to me, looks like a man raring to do the right thing for this country.

  126. middlemarch - November 6, 2009 6:22 pm

    This is Noynoy’s verbatim response to the question:

    Q: Si GMA ba kakasuhan mo?
    A: “First of all, I want closure dun sa many issues and she seems to be either directly, peripherally involved in some of these. Having said that, my father did teach me rather that democracy’s test is your ability to defend the rights of your enemies, especially, not just of your friends. Yung paniwala niya, pag pumayag kang may maapi yung isang grupo, eventually lahat ng grupo aapihin. Yung grupo ng lipunan, ano? So kung ayaw mong ikaw na lang ang natitirang aapihin, ay siguraduhin mo sa umpisa pa lang pinagtanggol mo na yung karapatan mo. So, in our system, innocent until proven guilty. I will ensure that she gets all of her rights–people around her, etc, members of this current administration. At the end of the day, I want closure. Yung pasensyahan na lang kung san umabot.” (end quote)

    I think the last sentence ‘Yung pasensyahan na lang kung san umabot’ has been misunderstood by a few commenters. Taken in the context of his strong stand on corruption, I believe what he means is ‘sorry na lang, GMA, kung kulungan ang kahihinatnan mo.’ When I first read this sentence, it NEVER occurred to me that Noynoy would be soft on GMA. I read it as a declaration that justice would be meted out; no one is above the law. And really, isn’t it reassuring to have a presidential candidate who is such a staunch defender of democracy that he would respect the rights even of his enemies? Shouldnt this be the stand of any democracy-loving person?

  127. ace - November 6, 2009 7:16 pm

    “why are we in dire straits right now? It is not for want of brilliant ideas; it is for want of the will to do the right thing.”
    _______________________

    Political will is not enough, the leader must also have the capacity and ability to choose the right people to help him run this country, that is what Noynoy and other “presidentiables” must endeavor to prove.

  128. middlemarch - November 6, 2009 8:03 pm

    AdeBrux: “I would like a straight shooting president. Someone who will jail corrupt people.”

    This is excatly what Noynoy says he will do. (direct quote below).

    Q: Oo. Pano mo susugpuin yun?
    A: Sasample ka. Yung corruption laws are there. They’re supposed to be modules of other countries. Pero yung certainty ng punishment when you commit a crime is not there. I’m told that an average six years of gestation ng bawat case. Look at the chief justice when he had this Justice on Wheels program, they went to the Bicol area, I think, Quezon also. They disposed of close to three thousand cases in two days or three days. So balik kaya dito kasi kaya eh. We have been even imagining how we’ll do it and who are the people you will task to do it no? And part of, if we’re lucky, the inauguration speech will contain a provision that will be asking for an increase in the size of the bilibid. We will also have a certainty na, yung pasensyahan na lang tayo pag kayo’y, hindi niyo kami sinersyoso, kami seryosong-seryoso sa inyo…”

    Q: Yun ang una mong aatupagin? Corruption and justice
    A: That has to be, otherwise all the other interventions won’t work. Look at the fertilizer scam. Yung last year we were tackling the 2009 budget, tapos yung core report on the 2007 expenditures. Ang lumabas dun, merong NGO na dalawang beses binigyan ng farm inputs, money for the farm inputs –it’s the same NGO, the same problem, according to the COA doesn’t exist, yung at least in allocation that they said. Tapos yung five hundred thousand in 2004, binigyan ng 34 million in 2007. Yung ano, para bang di lang sa nahuli na, di man lang nahiya na itago, lalo pang pinalaki yung krimen. Pero, hindi nga ako pupunta dyan sa lumipas, baka from the first day, yung aking watch na, dun kami magpapakita na seryoso kami dito. The idea is maimbestigahan, makasuhan within one week.”

    Let us be clear about something: when Noynoy says “pasensyahan na lang tayo pag kayo’y, hindi niyo kami sineryoso, kami seryosong-seryoso sa inyo…”, he is NOT saying his policy would be let bygones be bygones, forgive and forget. Quite the opposite, in fact. He may be vague about several things he said in this interview, but on this issue, he is crystal clear. It seems to me that tackling corruption is precisely the centerpiece of his platform. And someone who boldly says that he would make sure that a clear message will be sent on the first week of his presidency knows that we will take him up on it. First day pa lang we will demand, okay, make good on your promise.

  129. luzviminda - November 6, 2009 8:24 pm

    middmarch,

    Pareho tayo ng intindi sa tinuran ni Noynoy, but i have pictured him as a softie and hindi kayang magdecision ng matatag. Big question is at 50 eh hindi pa siya nakakapag-asawa. Parang lumalabas tuloy na takot sa responsibilidad. Kaya panay ang konsulta sa mga Sisters maski sa maliliit na bagay. Isa pa is, yung mga taong nakapaligid at nagpapatakbo ng kanyang kandidatura, mga taong kasama sa pagwawalanghiya sa ating saligang batas nuong EDSA2. Honestly, I am worried na gawin lang siyang Puppet President.

  130. Pepito - November 6, 2009 8:36 pm

    Side-topic: Flying voters are allowed, seriously. Please vote. There is a Filipino candidate, also an African woman. I think the prize-money is for $100,000.00.

    http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cnn.heroes/vote/

  131. luzviminda - November 6, 2009 8:39 pm

    Ellen: “Immediately after the Club Filipino presscon where Chiz announced he was leaving NPC, Jinggoy called up asking him to join his father’s ticket. Chiz said,sorry, he is not interested.

    The next call came from Adel Tamano, whom we all know is now with Villar. Adel (who is a friend of Chiz because he was the spokesman of GO party in 2007) reiterated Villar’s offer to be his vice president. Chiz said, “No.”

    A friend said Chiz was so appalled and hurt by the calls of these two. “Vultures”, my friend said.”

    Ellen,

    Kung ito nga ang sagot ni Chiz sa kanyang mga naka-usap ay parang AROGANTE sa akin ang dating. Did Chiz ever say ‘Thank you’ man lang sa offer, knowing that these people obviously recognized his talent? MInsan yan ang nagiging impression sa akin the way Chiz talks. Sorry sa mga maka-Chiz pero I still have to find more aside from his not yet corrupt qualities.

  132. chi - November 6, 2009 9:20 pm

    Political will is not enough, the leader must also have the capacity and ability to choose the right people to help him run this country, that is what Noynoy and other “presidentiables” must endeavor to prove. -ace

    Naka-ace ka dyan!

  133. henry90 - November 6, 2009 9:28 pm

    Adebrux:

    I know. But my former Boss, Gen Gazmin is a soldier Mam and he is not running. I said is because basically, once a soldier, those of us who were trained so, will always be soldiers. Hell, if Ebdane is very brave to run for the prexy post inspite of Garci, I will vote for Volts who I knew to be more honorable than him if he runs for a national elective posts. We were taught that there are two kinds of loyalty. There is blind loyalty that I donot subscribe to. And there is loyalty to God, country and people. I can’t speak for other soldiers like me but I can assure you that I have faithfully lived up to the best of my ability to these 3 core values: Courage, Integrity and Loyalty. If others didnt live up to these, that’s up to them. We’re a free country. Having said that, my personal endorsement of a Noy candidacy is not something bordering on fanaticism as others here are wont to say. It is borne of a belief that HE at this time, where we are again at a crossroad of history(again bcoz we never learn!) is what we need. Whatever faults other people may have to say against him, and I respect other bloggers opinions, Noy is being looked up to by people who have grown weary of corruption, the root cause of all our problems. Is he our Savior? No! A leader can only inspire. It is the foot soldiers who do the bloody fighting! Filipinos have this twisted notion of expecting instant solutions to our national problems. His candidacy is centered on the eradication of corruption. Take note that he was always a member of the Commitee on Appropriations in both houses of Congress. He knows the budget like the palm of his hands. He knows the sources of corruption. Lest the others dont know it yet, kahit papaano, may degree in economics naman sya from Ateneo. For the others who expect him to be omniscient in all fields of governance, I have bad news for you. Walang presidenteng ganun. Ever. Otherwise, di mo na kailangan ang ibang sangay ng gobyerno. You remove corruption, you will have budget for everything, albeit kulang. Now, Anna, with due respect to you and the other bloggers here. Why do u think Noy was able to captivate a lot imagination of the populace in recent surveys? Cory? Maybe. And other people would say misleading ang surveys. My ass. Pag sila ang lamang, ok ang surveys. It’s the message, Anna. It’s the message. People can see through you if you are honest or not. TRUST is the operative word of the day. Thanks.

  134. duane - November 6, 2009 10:19 pm

    “Ellen,

    Kung ito nga ang sagot ni Chiz sa kanyang mga naka-usap ay parang AROGANTE sa akin ang dating. Did Chiz ever say ‘Thank you’ man lang sa offer, knowing that these people obviously recognized his talent? MInsan yan ang nagiging impression sa akin the way Chiz talks. Sorry sa mga maka-Chiz pero I still have to find more aside from his not yet corrupt qualities.” – LVM

    Sa tingin ko, hindi lang “thank you”. Meron pang “take care, see you later and I miss you” at kung anu-ano pa. Hindi na naman dapat pang sabihin ni Ellen yun.

  135. chi - November 6, 2009 10:38 pm

    Hahaha! Ano ba yan? It’s a reflex for anybody, plastic or not, to say thank you for any gifts/offers made to them. Kahit siguro si Gloria Arroyo na walang GMRC ay magsasabi dyan ng TY, hahaha!

    Natawa ako sa poste/response mo, duane.

    Ikaw naman, Luz, that’s so trivial compare to the new politics Chiz offers us. Hanapan natin ng mas malaking butas si Chiz kesa dyan, hehehe.

  136. luzviminda - November 6, 2009 11:06 pm

    chi,

    Yung mga simpleng bagay na ito like saying ‘thank you’ even turning down one’s offer, ay isang kagandahang ugali na itinuturo sa ating mga Pilipino. Lalo pa nga at dati na silang magkasakasama. Hindi ba dapat ay matuwa siya for the recognition? Dyan lalabas ang naturalesa ng pagkatao. Sabi mo nga GMRC-Good Manners and Right Conduct. I believe na that is to be applied in all situations.

  137. luzviminda - November 6, 2009 11:11 pm

    “Sa tingin ko, hindi lang “thank you”. Meron pang “take care, see you later and I miss you” at kung anu-ano pa. Hindi na naman dapat pang sabihin ni Ellen yun.”

    duane,

    Yung “take care, see you later, at i miss you” eh hindi yata apt at Right Conduct dun sa situation.

  138. saxnviolins - November 6, 2009 11:12 pm

    When you want to hire an employee, whether a president, basketball player or killer, you look at his resume, and dig into his past record. No NBA team would hire a player with a poor college record just because his name is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Jr. Neither would the Mafia hire a wimp ballet dancer (anak ni Al Pacino sa Godfather 4) just because he is the son of Michael Corleone.

    Now these candidates are legislators. What has been the defining thread in their legislative careers? Ano ang advocacy nila? Or did they run just because masarap matawag na Congressman, or Your Honor?

    Si Loren, green advocate daw. Okay. So what bills has she authored for the environment? If not authored, has she helped another author get his bill to the floor for debates?

    Pro-democracy daw si Noynoy. Okay, what has been his legislative action with regard to press freedom? Kasama ba siya sa moves for the de-criminalization of libel? What about the right of reply bill? Wasn’t it unanimously passed in the Senate?

    Umatras kayo dahil sa batikos ng tao hindi ba? Of course, now they will give it a positive spin saying, “yes, we listen to the people”. Chikinini niyo. A true democracy advocate would reject this outright, as a matter of principle. Lorenzo Tañada would never have signed on to the bill. Neither would Rene Saguisag, were he still in that once august hall.

    So yan ang pag-usapan natin, yung nagawa na, to see if people walk their talk. Hindi yung hinihimay yung mga pangako. Kung pangako lang, kay Pascual Racuyal na ako (the guy who promised to build roads from plastic, para hindi masira). He ran in all elections, against Quezon all the way to Cory.

  139. manuelbuencamino - November 6, 2009 11:13 pm

    Chiz: “Pero bago ko buksan ‘yon, tatanungin ko ang taong bayan kung yan ba ang gusto nila o hindi.”

    Bakit kailangan pa magpa”survey” kung i-eenforce ang batas?

    Noynoy: “At the end of the day, I want closure. Yung pasensyahan na lang kung san umabot”

    At the end of the day yun decision ng korte ang masusunod.

  140. saxnviolins - November 6, 2009 11:13 pm

    Americans usually look to the voting records of legislators running for reelection, or for the presidency.

    Okay, let’s do that. Sino ang bumoto for impeachment, who voted against, and who was conveniently absent? How about the failed cha-cha of Joe D. V? Nasa House pa noon sina Noynoy and Chiz. Saang panig sila noon?

    Those in the Commission on Appointments, who voted for rejection of Glue stooges, and who played safe and merely abstained?

  141. luzviminda - November 6, 2009 11:13 pm

    Well yun lang naman ang sa akin. Maliit na bagay man talking about character.

  142. Tedanz - November 7, 2009 12:09 am

    Hintayin na lang nating ideklara ni Chiz ang kandidatura niya. Ni wala man lang akong naririnig o nababasa na mga Governors/Mayors pati Baranggay Captain o mga Kabataang Barangay na dumikit kay Chiz … papano siya mananalo? Malamang hindi na ito tatakbo … yan lang ang aking suspetsa.

  143. Ellen - November 7, 2009 12:18 am

    LVM, please read carefully my post on the call of Jinggoy and Adel Tamano.It was my friend who said, “Vultures”, not Chiz.

  144. Al - November 7, 2009 12:21 am

    Wish mo, Tedanz.

  145. AdeBrux - November 7, 2009 12:27 am

    Henry,

    Appreciate your reply. At the risk of sounding patronising, let me say that I’m impressed. It’s not often we see soldiers on this blog who write with such passion (and clarity). Noynoy is lucky to have an ally in you.

    Incidentally, my Volt Gazmin comparisson was the closest I could think of because after reading your post, I suddenly realised that you must have worked under him. (He is a friend and I’d like to believe he considers me a friend too.)

    I have no quarrel with your man’s character — despite what I’ve said about his interview, and as I have said in a few posts here, I believe him to be a decent chap.

    If decency is to be the only gualification gauge in today’s election and if we use use the process of elimination, there’s no doubt in my mind that Noynoy will be high on the list today. However, a naturally slow (or cautious) thinker that I am, I would like to hear more about him – and if possible from him. It would be extremely helpful to hear from him first hand so that we (or voters like me) can assess how solid his platform is, how determined he is or how straightforward his thoughts are.

    To me, information, good, solid information which is a basis for rational decision-making is primordial. Sadly, right now, I am not seeing that quite clearly.

    Re: “Why do u think Noy was able to captivate a lot imagination of the populace in recent surveys?”

    May not be evident in my postings but I think I have an open mind particularly where crucial matters are concerned and don’t get easily swayed or easily influenced by what people say about or against a candidate nor am I easily swayed by the ‘mood of the moment.’

    I have not made up my mind as to who I will vote for but I do know who I won’t vote for. In conjuction with that, I can promise that I will keep an open mind about Noynoy.

  146. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 7, 2009 12:36 am

    Excellent idea, sax. Alam kong meron namang matiyaga diyang mag-research sa House an Senate. Let’s go beyond the motherhood statements/soon-to-be empty promises and go by the records.

    Kaso kababasa ko pa lang sa website nung PINoy ba yun. Comparing Noynoy’s to Gibo’s bills passed, Noynoy=5, Gibo=25.

    I wish we can get a tabulation of all authored bills and their individual votes for all Pres’l candidates, not just Noynoy, Gibo, or Chiz to be fair.

  147. henry90 - November 7, 2009 12:45 am

    Tedanz:

    Touche! As I’ve said earlier, puro pakyut lang e! Hinihintay pa siguro kung may epekto ba gimik nya sa tao o wala. Even the Americans are fickle-minded. Until now, the republicans cant accept that Obama is THE POTUS. Lahat ng paninira ginawa nila. Walang ginawa as Senator. Kesyo miembro ng Komite de Silencio or Festijos. Walang nagawa na legislative accomplishment.Mamatay sila sa inggit! Sabi siguro ni Obama sa sarili nya, ” I’m up here and you’re down there! How d’y all?” Basahin nyo ang interview. Boring kasi kaya di nyo tinapos. Sinabi na nga na napakarami ng batas na nagawa. Ang problema, pinapatupad ba? Kahit siguro sino man sa atin dito mabubuwisit sa kauupo sa committee hearings na alam mong nakakabuwisit! Aha. . .but hearings in aid of reelections lalo na pag mga Hello Garci and the likes, kanya-kanya ng pasiklaban yan! The eloquence of lawyers and their knowledge of the law! Yuts! Tyranny of numbers dahil sa mga mambabatas na nabibili! Di pa abogada si Putot nyan ha! Pero kayang-kaya nyang paikutin sa palad nya ang mga mababastos. .ehek! My point is, kung wala kang kwentang namumuno, nasa iyo man ang lahat ng PhDs at Doctorates ng Laws at Economics wala ka pa ring kwenta kung walang tiwala ang tao sa yo. Alam ng tao pag nambobola ka lang. Bulol ka mang magsalita kung naiintindihan naman ng mga tao ang ibig mong sabihin, your cool, dude! Think Freddie Roach! Bulol mang magsalita yun at halos wala kang maintindihan, alam mo na ang tinutukoy nya ay naknock-outin ni Pacman si Cotto! It’s character that defines a man. . .titles are just embellishments. . marami si Gibo nyan. . .mananalo ba naman sya?

  148. henry90 - November 7, 2009 12:54 am

    you’re cool dude. . .

    Mam Ellen, puede ba yung parang sa facebook na pag may grammatical errors ka e puede mong idelete kahit na nakapost na at irepost na lang later? Puede ba yun? Thanks po. .

  149. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 7, 2009 1:01 am

    Balik-LP na pala sila Lito Atienza at Mike Defensor. Nung una, si Alex Magno.

    Eto na yung kinatatakutan ko.

  150. Ellen - November 7, 2009 1:20 am

    Henry, I have to be the one to do that. Just tell me the corrections to be made.

    Sometimes, I edit/correct or delete (if it’s offensive) if I have time. But I have been so busy, I just browse through the comments.

  151. middlemarch - November 7, 2009 1:48 am

    saxnviolins, I agree, we should look at every candidate’s (former congressmen/women and senators) legislative accomplishments and voting records. Unfortunately, I haven’t found a comprehensive record online. If someone gets hold of one, kindly do us all a favor and post.

    This is all I could come up with and it does not have his voting record (although it might partly answer your question about his stand on press freedom, judicial killings, etc.).
    http://haringliwanag.pansitan.net/?p=809

    saxnviolins: “So yan ang pag-usapan natin, yung nagawa na, to see if people walk their talk. Hindi yung hinihimay yung mga pangako.” I couldn’t agree more. The only reason why I painstakingly copy-pasted excerpts of the transcript is because I suspected people lost patience in wading through such a long interview that focused too much on the past and his parents’ influence on him.

    People are getting frustrated by the lack of an articulation of a platform from the Aquino-Roxas ticket. I expect they are going to present it soon enough. In the meantime, from this interview we can already see glimmers of that platform. (In fairness to Chiz and Gibo, they have come out with statements here and there of elements of their platform too, better articulated than Noynoy’s, I must admit). And what is a platform if not a promise? So when Gibo says he would continue the programs and policies of GMA, you know what to expect from a Gibo presidency, right? When Legarda says she would focus her efforts on mitigating the effects of climate change, we know that is where her priorities lie. So there is merit in looking at what they promise because in there lies their analysis of what they consider as the root of our problems and how they intend to address it.

    And Tongue-Twisted, how do we know if one candidate’s promise is solid and another candidate’s empty? We don’t. This is where the trustworthiness of the individual comes in. (BTW, please let us not take Noynoy’s bachelorhood at 50 against him. When Bush was president, nobody ever asked if Condoleeza Rice would be an effective Secretary of State because she is single. It was a non-issue.)

  152. saxnviolins - November 7, 2009 2:17 am

    Isa lang middlemarch:

    Senate Resolution No. 229 – directing the appropriate Senate committees to conduct an inquiry, in aid of legislation, on the circumstances leading to the arrest and ‘processing’ of journalists and media personalities after the Manila Peninsula standoff on 29 November 2007

    This doesn’t exactly put him in the league of Lorenzo Tañada or Rene Saguisag. His being a democracy advocate is quite a stretch if the one shining light above is weighed against the ill effects of the right of reply bill.

    We have too many people claiming the mantle of “democracy advocate”. It sullies the memory of The Old Man and Jose Burgos if the claimant is not as passionate (proven by actions) on the advocacy as these late gentlemen were.

  153. henry90 - November 7, 2009 2:20 am

    Middlemarch:

    Ang galing! Nadale mo! And may I add. It’s not in the number of laws that you have authored that makes you an extraordinary lawmaker. Tanungin mo si Tito Sotto. During his time, siya ang pinakamaraming batas na nagawa at naipasa. Lalo na ang sa drugs. Did that make him a presidentiable? Si Jinggoy? Si Miriam? Ang dami nilang batas na naipasa. . .iboboto ba sila ng mga tao kungg tatakbo silang presidente? Tanungin mo rin sila kung ilang beses silang palipat-lipat at papalit-palit ng kaalyado at malalaman mo kung bakit di sila mananalo. Alam ng mga nakararami dito na isang aspeto lang ng trabaho ng mambabatas ang paggawa ng batas. Ako, halimbawa. Why should I waste time crafting laws when we have enough already? Alam ko marami pang kulang at maraming akong kasamahan na magagaling sa paggawa ng batas na makakatulong sa aspetong yan. So, ako magkoconcentrate ako sa oversight function ng congress. Kung Economics ang background ko, it would serve me well na himay-himayin ang budget ng gobyerno dahil alam kong dito kalimitan ang korupsyon. Everybody serves a purpose. Si Lacson for example. Doon sya lumilinya sa pagiimbestiga ng mga mga katiwalian dahil yun ang linya nya. Kung di nyo man narinig ang mga nagawa ko, sorry! Boring kasi ang mga budget hearings e at walang tumutulong sa amin ni Pimentel. . .wala kasing nakatutok na kamera. . . nakalusot tuloy ang C5 at taga. . .buti na lang at may nakapagbulong kay Ping. . .

  154. henry90 - November 7, 2009 2:31 am

    Tongue:

    A yun ang di ako papayag! Ako ang unang titira kay Noynoy, if ever na manalo sya, kung makakapuesto etong dalawang ito. Pero kung lokal na position lang ang tatakbuhan nila at di appointive, lalo na cabinet rank, ay wala na kong magawa kung iboto sila ng mamamayan. Caveat Emptor na lang. . .

  155. middlemarch - November 7, 2009 2:42 am

    saxnviolins, off-topic: how do you make that green highlight appear to block off a direct quote? I am a new commenter, as you can see, and I would like to be able to do that. Thanks in advance for your help.

  156. abnoy-c5-gibo - November 7, 2009 3:18 am

    Tama na sa mga Aquino family. Mga pasaway sa pilipinas. Sila ang nagsimula kung bakit nagkakagulo ang pilipinas.

    Nung si cory ang presidente meron bang nangyari sa pilipinas!? Nung si abNoynoy congressman sa tarlac meron ba siyang ginawa? Wala. Pasyalan ninyo sa mga market at public school sa tarlac nagkalat ang dumi ng tao.

  157. Mike - November 7, 2009 3:28 am

    @florry: “To be fair these two are candidates and they would not like to sound like a dictator.”

    Deciding not to grant pardon to anyone, especially Gloria is not being a dictator. Giving justice to the people who Gloria had victimized is not being a dictator. This “presidential prerogative” of granting of pardon, a power that has been abused many times by Gloria should be amended, if not repealed.

    My stand is still not to give pardon to Gloria and other government officials (elected or not) convicted of crime against the people.

  158. abnoy-c5-gibo - November 7, 2009 3:28 am

    13. TonGuE-tWisTeD – November 5, 2009 11:05 pm

    Henry90,
    How can Noynoy inspire hope e ni hindi siya maintindihan ng tao sa mga pinagsasabi niya. Magulo ang utak. Parang yung adik na kilala ko, incoherent at disconnected ang mga sinasabi.
    *******

    Tama ka TonGuE-tWisTeD. Si Henry90 hindi marunong mangilatis ng tao.

    Sabi ni Chi…. I admire the values of this family. I like the person of Noynoy, in fact.

    Bulag ka rin siguro… pano mo e admire ang family nila kung ang isang anak nila iba-ibang lalaki ang nakakftabi sa kama!?

  159. saxnviolins - November 7, 2009 3:56 am

    saxnviolins, off-topic: how do you make that green highlight appear to block off a direct quote? I am a new commenter, as you can see, and I would like to be able to do that. Thanks in advance for your help.

    You put the tags at the start and end of the quote, like so:

    (blockquote)blah blah blah (/blockquote)

    substitute the brackets for the mathematical less than sign [On the keyboard, same key as the comma (shift + ,)] and greater than sign [on the keyboard, same key as the dot/period (shift + .)]

    Hopefully, the following will not be interpreted by the program. If it appears, just delete (do not type) the quotation marks.


    blah blah blah

  160. saxnviolins - November 7, 2009 3:57 am

    Oops, it was interpreted.

    Let’s try again.

    “” blah blah blah “”

  161. saxnviolins - November 7, 2009 4:01 am

    Ayaw pa rin.

    “>blockquote<"

    Baligtarin mo lang ang nasa itaas, if it appears.

  162. florry - November 7, 2009 4:24 am

    Mike,

    My comment is directed toward this: @Adebrux…. “Someone who will jail Gloria and her piggy husband.”

    It’s not on the topic about pardon.

    You know and I know that a constitutionally elected president can not just send anybody to jail, and any president who do this is kind of dictator.

  163. henry90 - November 7, 2009 4:27 am

    hahaha. . .sarap pag may pikon dito. . .di marunong dumepensa sa idol, mang-aaway. . .hehe. . .

  164. henry90 - November 7, 2009 4:46 am

    Tingnan natin sa curves kung sino mananalo. . .pag nagkataon, may matutuluyang ma praning dito. . . lol

  165. Tedanz - November 7, 2009 4:50 am

    Meron nga diyan nakikipag-patayan pa para idepensa ang idol. hehehehehehe oks ka lang henry?
    Cool lang kayo mga Igan. May kanya kanya tayong pag-iisip. Hindi porke iboboto niyo si ganito .. iboboto na rin namin.

  166. henry90 - November 7, 2009 5:15 am

    Korek Tedanz. . . ang pikon ay laging talo. . . malay ba nang mga manok natin na nakikipag debate tayo dito. . .pampalipas oras lang to Noy. . .wag mo dibdibin. . .peace

  167. florry - November 7, 2009 5:28 am

    “Che-Che dwelt too much on the past.” – Ellen

    Che Che is pro-Noynoy. Actually she’s too soft on him. She has to dwell in the past because Noynoy knows exactly what was in the past. She didn’t ask much about the future because she also knew that Noynoy can not frame his vision for the future. Baka lang lalong halo-halo at liko-liko ang pagsagot niya mabubuking pa.

    He wants to become president, but he can’t help himself get out from the shadows of his parents. The general perception is he is using them for his political end. He needs a rebranding, yan ang uso ngayon, hindi yong mga slogan na “Hindi ka Nagiisa” or “Ituloy ang laban sa mga Marcos”. Passe at old-fashion na yon. Forget the past because as somebody, an author who I can’t recall said and I quote:

    “Those who live in the past are cowards and losers”

  168. luzviminda - November 7, 2009 5:34 am

    Ellen,

    I know that it is your friend who said the word “Vultures”, but it is this sentence – “A friend said Chiz was so appalled and hurt by the calls of these two.” – makes me question why he has felt so, after all may pinagsamahan din naman sila nuong sa Genuine Oposisyon.

  169. AdeBrux - November 7, 2009 5:54 am

    “You know and I know that a constitutionally elected president can not just send anybody to jail, and any president who do this is kind of dictator.”

    Florry,

    I am not as bright or as intelligent as you are so my comment came out haphazardly, but rest assured, I didn’t say that to mean that sending a scoundrel to prison should be done without due process of law.

    However, I would like to think that a president can["send a corrupt member of govt to prison"]!

    And why on earth can he or can’t she not? This can be done if a president does not cave in to his/her primal instint of protecting the wicked, eg., by allowing, not blocking, the wheels of justice to take its course fully and etc etc, as opposed to what is happening now.

    In my book, a president’s role is to preside over the affairs of the nation, i.e., to lead, on behalf ot the people. Sending a criminal, a corrupt politician to prison is within the prerogatives of the chief executive by not interfering with the course of justice, and that’s a given.

  170. florry - November 7, 2009 6:40 am

    Anne,
    Sorry, but I don’t claim to be bright and intelligent. I am just a regular and average gal.

    Following is a partial repost of my entry#119. It’s not about intellect but it’s about the rule of law that should prevail at all times in a democratic society. Read on.

    @Adebrux: “I would like a straight shooting president. Someone who will jail corrupt people…. “Someone who will jail Gloria and her piggy husband.”

    To be fair these two are candidates and they would not like to sound like a dictator. We are in a democratic country and let the wheel of justice turns it course. Everything should be done in accordance with the rule of law. Presidents should not interfere, influence or dictate to the Justice dept as well as the Legislative. We’ve been very critical of how Gloria prostituted and corrupted the other branches of the government to suit her whims so I think we should not be going back to her barbaric ways. We will be making a mess again instead of reforming it.

    First thing that must be done however is to dismantle the moat-like protective barrier that Gloria built around her and family. Get rid of Gutierez who can not find any fault on the evil deeds of her masters. That’s only for starters and after that everything will be fine.

    What I am saying is no president should dictate to the other branches or else it wlll be back to the Gloria style of making a mockery of the constitution.

    That’s my idea of how democracy works.

  171. chi - November 7, 2009 7:04 am

    henry,

    Hayaan mo lang yan. Ang pikon dito ay talo. Ganyan lang si abnoy dahil si erap ay mukhang itataas na ang kamay ni Noynoy.

  172. AdeBrux - November 7, 2009 7:06 am

    Florry, not a problem…

    I share your idea of how democracy should work, but not necessarily your optimism, i.e., “That’s only for starters and after that everything will be fine.”

    But heck, that’s a good start.

  173. AdeBrux - November 7, 2009 7:37 am

    Middlemarch,

    Re Noynoy’s “pasensyahan na lang tayo pag kayo’y, hindi niyo kami sineryoso, kami seryosong-seryoso sa inyo…”

    Sorry, but what exactly did he mean by that?

  174. luzviminda - November 7, 2009 8:17 am

    chi,

    May interview si NoyNoy at Erap sa TV Patrol ngayon Nov 6. Noynoy’s camp is the one initiated the talks to Erap’s camp for unification. Erap said na huli na daw dahil naka-pagdeklara na.

  175. luzviminda - November 7, 2009 8:18 am

    Gusto kasi nila na umatras si Erap.

  176. Ellen - November 7, 2009 8:59 am

    SnV,

    Senate Resolution No. 229 – directing the appropriate Senate committees to conduct an inquiry, in aid of legislation, on the circumstances leading to the arrest and ‘processing’ of journalists and media personalities after the Manila Peninsula standoff on 29 November 2007

    was introduced by Mar Roxas and Noynoy Aquino and hearings were conducted by the committee of Chiz Escudero.

  177. tru blue - November 7, 2009 9:28 am

    “(BTW, please let us not take Noynoy’s bachelorhood at 50 against him. When Bush was president, nobody ever asked if Condoleeza Rice would be an effective Secretary of State because she is single. It was a non-issue.)” – middlemarch

    Condi Rice was an appointee confirmed by the US Senate and Secretary Neri’s manhood was never questioned either.

    Noynoy is “being-pushed” to the presidency and if some sector of the voting bloc probes it out, it’s fair play. At this point of so much economic strain long been faced by this failed state, who cares about his sexual orientation BUT I’m hoping he is DUAL.

  178. chi - November 7, 2009 9:33 am

    Luz, tapos na ang interview nila?

  179. tru blue - November 7, 2009 9:37 am

    “Tanungin mo si Tito Sotto. During his time, siya ang pinakamaraming batas na nagawa at naipasa. Lalo na ang sa drugs.” – henry90

    Wonder how he legislated those drug-related bills, being a drug lord himself. Some people here need to come clean and call out who are the evil politicians, regardless of past and current associations.

    May mga magnanakaw na in broad daylight, to some hindi raw.

    May murderers, sa kanila hindi pa rin.

    What a country! That’s why “democracy in the Philippines” is really like “three wolves and a deer” voting what’s for supper tonight.

  180. chi - November 7, 2009 9:38 am

    I don’t care about Noynoy being single at 50. Pakialam ko ba e personal niya yun. I’ll make pakialam if he wins tapos palpak sya ng palpak sa desisyon regarding his official duties in relation to the country and people.

  181. Ellen - November 7, 2009 9:45 am

    LVM:I know that it is your friend who said the word “Vultures”, but it is this sentence – “A friend said Chiz was so appalled and hurt by the calls of these two.” – makes me question why he has felt so, after all may pinagsamahan din naman sila nuong sa Genuine Oposisyon.

    LVM, if you can’t fathom why he felt hurt, I fully understand why you don’t appreciate what Chiz did.

  182. Ellen - November 7, 2009 9:49 am

    abnoy-c5-gibo, iwasan natin ang personal na insulttuhan sa kapwa blogger. Magbigay tayo ng ating opinyun. Hindi naman kailangan sumang-ayon ang ibang tao sa iyo. Sabihin lang natin ng maayos ang ating saloobin.

    Also, please huwag gawing capital letters ang comments. Pangit basahin. Parang sumisigaw. Nakaka-turnoff.

    Paulit-ulit kung sinasabi na kahit small letters ang comments basta maayos ang pagka-paliwanag maintindihan yan ng mga bloggers dito.

  183. parasabayan - November 7, 2009 9:51 am

    Sax, tama ka. I would also like to know kung ano na ang nagawa ng mga presidentiables na ito. Talk is cheap. I want to know who had done this and that in the lives of the Filipino people. Mas importante sa lahat ito.

    I am just leary when someone starts to bad mouth the very same people who made them. That says something else of the candidate. I do not call that independence nor strength of character. I call him more an ingrate.

  184. luzviminda - November 7, 2009 10:01 am

    Hmmn, mukhang mataas ang ere!

  185. florry - November 7, 2009 10:06 am

    Who bad mouth who?

    Maybe I’m not listening!

  186. florry - November 7, 2009 10:10 am

    Sino?!?

    Arnold Clavio said:

    - Sino itong ‘presidentiable’ na ito na dating tambay sa isang bilyaran sa Quezon City? Pero front lang niya ang pagbibilyar. Dahil nakaabang na sa kanya ang mga suki niyang ‘call girl’.

    CLUE: Siya ay ‘ander d sis’

  187. Pepito - November 7, 2009 10:35 am

    Noynoy being a bachelor at 50 raises a question.
    How deep is his understanding of the issues that
    Filipino parents feel?
    If some critic says that
    Noynoy probably cares more about Hacienda Luisita
    than he does about his own son, who can say that
    the critic is wrong? How does one respond when
    an anti-Noy says that Noy would not know the worries
    of a parent for the future of his children and
    grandchildren?
    who ca

  188. henry90 - November 7, 2009 10:37 am

    Yehey! Di Tiyo-paeng si Noynoy! hehe

  189. Al - November 7, 2009 10:40 am

    PSB:”I am just leary when someone starts to bad mouth the very same people who made them. That says something else of the candidate. I do not call that independence nor strength of character. I call him more an ingrate.”

    Are you referring to Manny Villar when he railroaded the impeachment against Erap, the man who helped him become speaker of the House of Representatives (yung mga close kay Erap dito, siguro alam nyo nung dumikit na dumikit si Villar kay Erap in 1998 para lang makuha niya ang speakership against Joker Arroyo?)

  190. Mike - November 7, 2009 10:41 am


    @tru blue : “Wonder how he legislated those drug-related bills, being a drug lord himself.”

    I just hope you can back up this claim and not hearsay. He may be a comedian turned rotten politician but being a drug lord is pure tsismis. Maybe you know something that we don’t???

  191. Al - November 7, 2009 10:42 am

    I’m echoing Florry’s comments:

    “Who bad mouth who?

    “Maybe I’m not listening!”

  192. henry90 - November 7, 2009 10:45 am

    Mike:

    Ain’t true. . . I was with the unit that apprehended the drug shipment of Tiongco. . .Nasabit lang pangalan ni Tito dahil kumpare nya ito. . In fairness to him, la syang alam dun. . .

  193. Mike - November 7, 2009 10:49 am

    Henry,

    I know it isn’t true, thats why I’m asking tru blue to prove it.

  194. Mike - November 7, 2009 10:51 am

    Speaking of Tiongco, what happened to his case? Nakakulong pa rin ba?

  195. tru blue - November 7, 2009 10:54 am

    As I’ve said before in this blog, my mentor is a retired US DEA agent assigned in Asia in the 90′s. Three people he mentioned who stuck in my head several years ago were a son of a certain Mayor Cuneta, Sotto, and a colonel in Mt Province, who got promoted to Brigadier General for protecting the marijuana plantations in that part of the world. And that’s how you advance your career sometimes, just become a thug.

    Need I say more?

  196. Ellen - November 7, 2009 10:57 am

    Thanks for that Henry.

    I’d like to put in something that I know about that because I was then covering Malacanang under FVR. Mike and Henry are correct.

    I don’t like Sotto and I won’t vote for him but he was not involved in drug dealing. His fault was katangahan. He had this adviser/hustler (tanga nga e) who was the one who used his name for this racket.

    His being a kumpare of Tiongco was not his fault either. He was just invited to be a sponsor in a wedding. Anong malay naman niya that Tiongco was also a ninong.

    That was pre-1998 election season and Sotto was leading in the vice presidential race (his president was GMA). Tito Guingona (who went on to become vp under Gloria and who is now anti-Gloria) was being groomed to be VP candidate for Lakas.

    The people of FVR saw the material to destroy Sotto. They were feeding it to us.

    Ang totoo lang. Sotto is no big deal as legislator but he has not been involved naman in corruption or any illegal operation.

  197. Ellen - November 7, 2009 11:00 am

    Maybe you should be specific how your mentor mentioned the name of Sotto. Did he give you details what’s the involvement of Sotto in the illegal drugs business? Or did he just mention his name as a speculation?

    I have been dealing closely with PDEA people for some stories. The only thing that can be said of Sotto is publicity-conscious. Mahilig pumapel even if he had nothing to do with the operations.

  198. Mike - November 7, 2009 11:04 am

    Ok, your mentor told you that.

  199. tru blue - November 7, 2009 11:10 am

    I’ll ask him when I get a chance, he doesn’t bs so he’s a very reliable source, even the ineptness of the PDEA and their corruptions for bungling covert operations by the
    InterPol, again this was the 90′s and I can’t speak of the present, it don’t interest me one bit.

  200. henry90 - November 7, 2009 11:11 am

    True Mam Ellen. Dahil kung totoo yun di sya makakaupo sa DDB ngayon. Pasensyahan nyo na si Tito. Artista kasi kaya mahilig sa publicity. Pero in fairness, mabait naman. Politiko lang talaga.

  201. Mike - November 7, 2009 11:12 am

    Ellen, yung pakikialam ng mga legislators patungkol sa drug related crimes is like a booby trap. I remembered then Rep. Webb, pina-investigate niya ang NBI dahil pinatakas yung mga Indian nationals na drug manufacturers. Look what it lead to…

  202. Mike - November 7, 2009 11:15 am

    Henry,

    Halos lahat ng politiko mabait kapag kaharap ang mga tao, pero pag walang nakatingin lumalabas ang sungay at buntot. :P

  203. henry90 - November 7, 2009 11:16 am

    Ako mas papaniwalaan ko unit ko. kami ang nagluto ng trabahong yun e. Ilang araw sa dagat na inabangan namin yun. Nang nahagip yung shipment sa dagat, sinundot pa yung bahay ni Tiongco sa Bulacan. And modesty aside, magaling kaming pumiga. Lalabas at lalabas kung kasabwat o protektor si Tito. .

  204. henry90 - November 7, 2009 11:21 am

    Pag pinagkaisahan ka ng mga taga community, kahit sinong siga ka pa na politiko, lalo na kapag droga ang usapan, sisingaw at sisingaw ang baho mo. Di ka makakaligtas. Peks man.

  205. tru blue - November 7, 2009 11:25 am

    Just for a sideshow, the Brig Gen I mentioned, nababaliw na dito sa Baguio. If you believe in karma, that’s quite a payback.

  206. tru blue - November 7, 2009 11:29 am

    Pag pinagkaisahan ka ng mga taga community, kahit sinong siga ka pa na politiko, lalo na kapag droga ang usapan, sisingaw at sisingaw ang baho mo. Di ka makakaligtas. Peks man. – henry90

    Nakulong ba yung drugster na si Cuneta?

  207. henry90 - November 7, 2009 12:05 pm

    Tru Blue:

    Di namin sya natrabaho. . .police ata. . .

  208. abnoy-c5-gibo - November 7, 2009 12:40 pm

    “Civil War” nalang… para bumait ang mga pinoy.

  209. Mike - November 7, 2009 12:44 pm

    @henry90 : “Pag pinagkaisahan ka ng mga taga community, kahit sinong siga ka pa na politiko, lalo na kapag droga ang usapan, sisingaw at sisingaw ang baho mo. Di ka makakaligtas. Peks man.”

    Paano naman kung walang bahong makita pero pilit pa rin idinawit sa isang krimen na wala namang kasalanan? Na ang kasalanan lang ni Mr. Politiko ay nakisawsaw lang sa isyu?

  210. florry - November 7, 2009 1:02 pm

    Al,

    Parasabayan did not hear your echo.

  211. henry90 - November 7, 2009 1:03 pm

    Mike:

    There was(is)an unwritten rule in the community. While it may not be simon-pure,i’m especially saddened by the deterioration of ISAFP with its willing participation in Putot’s vilification campaign and oppression of political enemies, it is nevertheless vigilant in its mandated task. Ask ur media friends. Many of their sources of info involving high profile shenanigans of prominent people are from the community. I’m sure Mam Ellen will not admit to anything. She’ll just give u a knowing smile. . .hehe

  212. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 7, 2009 1:59 pm

    Ah, drugs, Cuneta, Sotto, Pasay, showbiz, pulis, politika – kaya kong pagtali-taliin yan. Magugulat pa si Henry90 kung paaabutin ko kay Binay at Noynoy.

    Cuneta? Si Dr. Gener Cuneta – anak sa unang asawa ni Mayor Ambo. He was the first administrator of the then new Pasay General Hospital. He wrote out prescriptions of thousands of tablets of Valium and Mogadon to ghost patients using his hospital as a front for his drug syndicate. He also accepted ghost deliveries for hospital equipment for Pasay GH in exchange for kotong siyempre. Suspetsa ng Substation #1, si Sotto ang utak ng pagkakahuli kay Doc Gener.

    He is the reason the Gamboa Substation (Elaine – Sharon’s Mom who is also Tito Sotto’s sis-in-law) is not comfortable with the Originals and some more. Of course merong ngang drug lord (Gener), merong gambling lord (Boy McNutt), transpo terminal lady (Letty na parang hindi lady), merong barangay captain’s lord (Arding – the panganay of all panganays), palengke lord, traffic lord, PBA scalper lord at kung anu-ano pa. Lahat Cuneta. Sa dami ba naman ng anak.

    To answer trublue’s query, ipinakulong ni Mayor si Doc Gener. Sa rehab. Nagsuicide pa nga kaso hindi ko alam kung natuluyan. Nawala na sa picture kaya ang pumalit, yung Boy Liit (City Councilor Generoso – convicted and sentenced for life in prison in 2003). Cuneta din, konsehal kaya naman kahit kapartido niya si Peewee, hinudas niya dahil balitang iniipit siya ng Arroyo administrasyon sa appeal ng malversastion case nilang mag-asawa. Kung naaalala ninyo yung tinira si Peewee ng mga bumbero para palayasin sa City Hall, si Boy Liit at asawa (konsehala din) ang collaborator ng Lakas-NUCD para tumayong complainant kuno. Hindi nila nauto ang mga taga-Pasay kaya kahit na-disqualify noong 2007, nilampaso ni Peewee yung bata ni Mike Arroyo kahit pa bumaha ng kwarta.

    Si Tito Sotto, ang kaso niya ay “technical”. Sa portion ng afternoon program nila ni Jessica Soho noon ay kumuha sila ng shabu chemist para ipakita sa TV kung paano magtimpla ng shabu gamit ang raw materials. Nanganak na ng kung anu-anong kasinungalingan simula nung i-privilege speech ni Guingona ang taong mag-iitsa-pwera sa kanya sa tambalang Gloria-Guingona sana para sa 1998 polls. Pilit na pilit ang pagkakaconnect kay Tiongco ni Sotto. Litrato sa kasal lang ang basehan.

    Ang unang reklamo ni Guingona ay bakit merong shabu raw materials si Sotto samantalang civilian ito. Tapos e kung hiniram daw niya sa PNP, meron daw bang katunayan na isinoli na.

    Malinaw, malisyoso ang paratang ni Guingona na merong axe to grind kay Sotto dahil sa pwestong VP ni Putot. Hindi na rin pinag-aksayahan ng panahon ni Guingona nung umatras na ang Kampi tandem ni Putot-Sotto at bumaba si Pandak bilang VP ni De Venecia.

    Si Tito Sotto ay isa sa mga haligi sa laban sa illegal na droga at napatunayan namin yan sa mga seminars na na-conduct namin sa Kabataang Barangay. Sina Sotto, Sen. Boy Herrera, DARE, yung mag-asawang Bob and Emie Garon, atbp lahat ay boluntaryong nagtuturo sa mga KB officers kung paano lalabanan ang droga.

    Hindi ako nagsasawang ikuwento iyan dito sa Ellenville ng paulit-ulit para itama ang maling pagkakilala sa mga taong ito.

  213. Mike - November 7, 2009 2:00 pm

    Henry,
    The reason I ask this is because, if it can happen to a congressman and senator, how much more to an ordinary person who have no influence at all and can’t get a decent lawyer to defend him. This is assuming that he is framed-up or being accused for a crime that he knows nothing of.

  214. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 7, 2009 2:18 pm

    Paano naman kung walang bahong makita pero pilit pa rin idinawit sa isang krimen na wala namang kasalanan? Na ang kasalanan lang ni Mr. Politiko ay nakisawsaw lang sa isyu?

    Yung kaso ni Hubert Webb pinagdudusahan niya dahil mainit ang tao sa mga politiko gaya ng ama niyang si Freddie Webb. Malinaw yung ebidensiyang galing mismo sa US Sate Dept., yung airline manifesto, resibo ng bisikleta at video ni Gary Valenciano na nagpapatunay na nasa America si Hubert pero dahil sa pressure ng media na ang piniling paniwalaan ay yung testimonya ni Jessica Alfaro na butas-butas, walang nagawa ang tangang si Judge Amelia Tolentino kundi i-convict. Ni hindi kilala ni Alfaro ang mga mukha ng sinasabi niyang kasama niya nung gabing pinatay ang mga Vizconde. Kahit siguro bangag siya ay mawawala ang tama niya kung naka-witness siya ng patayan. Lalong hindi mo maaalis sa isip mo yung mukha ng mga sinasabing mamamatay-tao na hindi lang isang beses niyang nakasama.

    Isa pa naman sana si Webb sa mga matitinong politiko. Konsehal siya ng Pasay bago naging Kongresman ng Parañaque.

  215. Mike - November 7, 2009 2:48 pm

    Tongue-twisted, here’s a link of one of Ms. Slolita Monsod’s column regarding the case.

    http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20070203-47236/Hope_for_Hubert_Webb

    Oooops….sorry for “hijacking” this thread to another topic, Ma’am Ellen.

    Pssst… Henry, Tru blue and tongue, balik tayo kay Noynoy. Hehehe :P

  216. tru blue - November 7, 2009 3:53 pm

    TT – do remember you’re the one who answered my question about a certain “cuneta” but can’t recall you explained about Sotto’s role at that time. Maybe my reliable source got it wrong also, that’s a long time ago. He might get suspicious why I’m digging into something so antique. Just need to do my questioning differently next time I see him.

    Mike, you’re right – ma ban pa tayo dito, mahirap sa barbershop, mas maraming magagaling dun, you wonder why they’re still there, hehe….

  217. Ellen - November 7, 2009 4:00 pm

    Thanks for all these info. Tito Sotto will be running for senator again. I don’t know if he will make the mistake of running under the administration ticket again but I’m sure someone will raise this issue again.

  218. parasabayan - November 7, 2009 4:02 pm

    Kapag si Tongue ang nagkukuwento todo basa ako. Marami akong napupulot…heh,heh,heh. Very informative as always.

  219. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 7, 2009 4:33 pm

    Pagka underworld characters ang usapan, marami dito sa paligid ko na mga informers. Puro first hand accounts ang mga kwento.

  220. Ellen - November 7, 2009 6:57 pm

    Abnoy-c5-gibo

    Walang personalan dito. Ibigay mo ang opinion mo sa isyu na pinag-uusapan.

  221. chi - November 7, 2009 10:25 pm

    #190, bigla ring pumasok sa isip ko yan, Al.

  222. chi - November 7, 2009 10:28 pm

    I have been dealing closely with PDEA people for some stories. The only thing that can be said of Sotto is publicity-conscious. Mahilig pumapel even if he had nothing to do with the operations. – Ellen

    No wonder why Sotto is ‘nasasabit’ sa isyu.

  223. chi - November 7, 2009 10:37 pm

    Batang Pasay kasi yang si tongue, hehehe.

    Minimemorya ko nga ang konek-konek niya kapag ganyan ang usapan, wala kasi akong alam dyan.

    Hindi ko pa rin iboboto si Sotto kahit teknikal lang ang sabit niya sa drug issue. Member pa rin sya ng ASO.

  224. abnoy-c5-gibo - November 8, 2009 2:26 pm

    Ito ba ang karapatdapat na pangulo ng bansa?

    Si Kris ba ang kandidato?
    Bernard Taguinod

    ******
    Kahit ang mga tambay sa kanto ay nagtatanong kung sino ba talaga kina Sen. Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III at kapatid niyang si Kris Aquino ang kandidato nang mapanood ang bagong infomercials ng mga Aquino na unang inilabas sa ABS-CBN.
    Mantakin mo naman, mas mahaba ang exposure ni Kristeta kaysa sa kanyang kapatid na walang gi­nawa kundi ngumiti ng ngu­miti na tinatanglawan ang madilim na gabi ng kanilang mga hawak na sulo.
    Alam namin na madi­lim ang gabi kaya kailangang may hawak kang sulo dahil kung hindi ay madadapa si Noynoy lalo na’t malabo na ang paningin niya kasi nagsasalamin na siya.
    Pero ang ikinadidismaya ng mga nakakita na sa infomercials, bakit panay ang pakita sa pagmumukha ni Kris? Siya ba ang kandidato? Saka bakit puro artista ang kanilang kasama at talagang ipinopokus ang mukha isa-isa na para bang sinasabi na ang buong industriya ay para kay Noynoy?
    Artista lang ba ang pagsisilbihan kapag naupo na si Noynoy dahil pinakway na ni Kris ang lahat ng sikat na artista para suportahan ang kanyang kapatid na hindi niya tinatawag na “kuya” kundi “noy” lang?
    Nangangati ang te­nga ko kapag “Noy” lang kung tawagin ni Kris ang kanyang kuya dahil sa aral ng mga Filipino, kapag matanda sa ‘yo, tawagin mong kuya kung lalake at ate naman kung babae.
    Saka bakit kailangan pang ipakita ang larawan ng kanilang magulang na sina Ninoy at Cory? Ibig bang sabihin ginagamit ni Noynoy ang kanyang mga magulang hanggang nga­yon?
    Napapansin ko ha, mukhang mga elitista na ang mga nakapaligid kay Sen. Aquino. Hindi na ako magbabanggit ng mga pangalan pero ang tingin ngayon ng mga tao kay Noynoy ay kandidato ng mga elitista. Kawawa naman ang masa kapag nagkataon.

  225. luzviminda - November 9, 2009 12:31 am

    Walang ‘laman’ ang infomercial ni Noynoy! Halatang napaka-propaganda ang dating. Kundi ba naman napilitan lang yung karamihan ng contract stars ng ABS-CBN para umakting. Mga Bayad! At syempre nai-intindihaa nating yung mga kaibigan ni Kris at Boy. Para maging effective ang infomercial, sabi nga, dapat may kurot sa puso. Malalaman at madadama naman ng mga botante kung sino ang tunay na may concern sa kapakanan nila eh!

  226. middlemarch - November 9, 2009 1:38 pm

    saxnviolins, thanks for that tutorial on text highlighting.

  227. jpax - November 10, 2009 12:44 pm

    Sadya nga po yata na ako ay malas pumili ng kandidato, una si Ping Lacson na halos lahat na yata ng pambababoy ng mag asawang Pidal ay siya ang nagbunyag at ang iba pang mga bulok sa gobyerno kaya naman madami ang galit sa kanya dahil sa kanyang advocacies sa korapsyon, sumunod ay si Mar Roxas na sa tingin ko naman ay may vision how to lead the country and hindi din naman korap and if Im not mistaken personal choice ni Tita Cory, pero nag VP n lang.

    Pero bkit nga ba? Nang mamatay si Tita Cory madami ang wagas na nakidalamhati marahil ay nakakita ng oportunidad ang mga so called Yellowista or Yellow army para makabalik sa posisyon in the expense of the good name of the Aquino’s, almost everyday nakabalandra sa diyaryo at Abs-Cbn ang bawat galaw ni Nonoy na nagpapakiliti sa ating mamayan, ang mga politiko na nag endorso at tumutulong kay Mar Roxas ay nanawagan na tumakbo si Noynoy, hindi ba’t parang Doy Laurel And Tita Cory noon sila din kaya ang nasa likod ng pag uudyok kay Nonoy marahil sila nga. Ipinangangalandakan ng mga Yellowista na columnist at politiko ang magandang pangalan, moral values and integrity ni Nonoy na sa aking paniniwala ay intact naman talaga at hindi din matatawaran lalo na ang kanyang mga magulang, pero ibig ba nilang sabihin na si Mar Roxas ay wala ng mga qualities na ganun, how about competence, leadership and clear stand on critical issues na sa aking paniniwala ay mas higit naman si Mar Roxas compare to Noynoy, meron naman din integridad si Mar. For me thats the biggest turn off for Nonoy ang mga nakapaligid na mga opurtunista sa kanya and the Conspiracy of the so so called Yellowista. May sarili ba siyang desisyon na hindi kayang implwensiyahan ng mga Yellowista na nakapaligid sa kanya, nabasa ko sa isang article na may kasunduan noon si Doy and Tita Cory na something like equal power ngunit after ata maupo sa posisyon the kasunduan ay hindi natupad because of the yellowista, tila ngaun lang nag iingay si Nonoy sa kabulukan ng C5 ni Villar, everytime kaya ay sasaluhin siya ni Mar like the question ” what is the difference between him and Gibo” to which he cant answer. But honestly if my Candidate cannot make it or win hopefully si Nonoy na lang compare to Villar and Gibo.

  228. TonGuE-tWisTeD - November 10, 2009 11:27 pm

    Welcome to the club, jpax.

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