While China was protesting the draping of the Philippine flag on the coffin Senior Police Inspector Rolando Mendoza, who hostaged a bus-full of tourists from Hongkong last Monday at the Rizal Park which resulted in the death of eight of the visitors, it was also doing its own flag- raising operation.
Foreign news agencies reported last Friday that China “had used a small, manned submarine to plant the national flag deep beneath the South China Sea, where Beijing has tussled with Washington and Southeast Asian nations over territorial disputes.”
What is the Philippines going to do now, being one of the countries that claim some parts of the South China Sea?
The Reuters report said “The submarine achieved the feat during 17 dives from May to last month, when it went as deep as 3,759m below the South China Sea, China News Service said, citing the Ministry of Science and Technology and State Oceanic Administration.”
Reuters also said “Chinese news reports did not say where the submarine went, whether it visited disputed waters, or why the announcement was held off until now. It was the first time a Chinese submersible vehicle has gone that deep, the reports said.”
Reuters reported that Liu Feng, the engineer in charge of the deep-sea dive, said in a TV interview “This success also shows that our country has become one of the handful possessing deep-sea manned submersible technology.”
The submarine test, Reuters said, underscored China’s ambitions to join the race for resources in the ocean depths.
The South China Sea covers an area of more than 1.7 million square kilometers, with more than 200 mostly uninhabitable islets, rocks and reefs. The sea holds valuable fishing grounds and as-yet largely unexploited oil and natural gas fields.
China claims the whole South China Sea while the Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan, Malaysia, and Brunei, claims part of the 1.7 square kilometer area with more than 160 mostly unhabitable islets and reefs. Studies show the area to rich in natural resource including an estimated 200 billion barrels of oil.
South China Sea has been a scene of skirmishes among claimant countries. In 1999, the Philippines discovered too late that China had built structures in Mischief reef which it also claims. China also occupied the Paracels after a 1974 conflict with Vietnam.
Last July, China vehemently objected to the statement of U.S. State Secretary Hillary Clinton made at the Asean Regional Forum in Hanoi that “The United States has a national interest in freedom of navigation, open access to Asia’s maritime commons and respect for international law in the South China Sea,” and supports “a collaborative diplomatic process by all claimants for resolving the various territorial disputes without coercion.”
China’s Foreign Ministry said Clinton’s statement was “virtually an attack on China” and that U.S meddling on the regional issue would “only make matters worse and more difficult to solve.”
At the meeting of the 10-country Asean plus six of its dialogue partners in Hanoi in October which Aquino will attend, one of the topics to be discussed will be the proposed Code of Conduct in the South China Sea.
While we were trying to be clarified what really happened in that embarrassing incident, DFA Spokesman Ed Malaya declined to comment even as Presidential Spokesperson Edwin Lacierda said that he called him up “three times but could not reach him.”
Last Friday, Malaya called me up to related his own recollection of events which I would not detail here for lack of space.
But this is what he can say about the Lacierda’s call that he was not able to take.”At round 9 p.m. called to convey the President’s guidance for the Secretary of Foreign Affairs to call by telephone the Hong Kong Chief Executive.
“I promptly relayed the message to the Secretary,” Malaya said, who was already at home. The instruction was for the Secretary to call Tsang, and not to arrange a call between the President and Tsang.
Malaya said he learned shortly thereafter that Romulo was able to talk to the Chinese Foreign Minister and then to the Hong Kong Chief Executive, and the Secretary promptly reported to the President by phone his talks with the two foreign officials.
Malaya said that he might have missed subsequent calls from Lacierda as he, together with other DFA officials, were busy attending to the Secretary and assisting him over the phone. He was also entertaining calls from members of the media.
He said, “A few things become apparent: one, these series of telephone calls occurred after the gruesome shootings had taken place; and two, the Lacierda-Malaya interactions were not part of the frantic calls made by Hong Kong officials that came in late afternoon through other channels, when the hostage crisis was still at a stand-off.”
30 August 2010
With all the drama and excitement that is haapening between HK and RP, I am inclined to think that china is using the siutation as a smoke screen, meaning while we are busy defending the national sovereignty of the Philippines against HK, the chinese government has sneaked in to ILLEGALLY raise their flag.
Now, if this is correct, is the Philippine government willing to tell the chinese to issue an apology and to remove their illegally installed flag? and if so, will the chinese do it?
That’s the problem there. the chinese thinks that we are a country of push-overs, and there’s not a thing that we can about it.
What happened in 23 August and the illegal flag raising of china are two different things, one-the hostage incident is not known to most of us, meaning it is and it will always ne an accident that could happen to any peace loving country, two-the flag raising done by china is deplorable, they accused RP of a lot of things, but if they do it (china) it’s ok because they are who did it.
Another thing worth looking at, is the alleged killing of a mother and daughter in 2005 in Tiananmen Square.
Let’s not be cowered by the chinese, we are a sovereign country and not tier territory.
prans
Can’t imagine how the Philippines solve its territorial disputes with China except thru diplomacy. There’s also the problem with the other claimants who has to protect their own interest so it’s quite impossible and complicated to join forces with them to go against the giant.
Flexing it’s “ting-ting”-like muscles against the Rambo-like muscles of China is out of the question. It’s not even an option.
Philippines can be seen as the weakest claimant of the territories, only a notch above Brunei, and has no choice or option but to engage in talks or may bring the case to the UN. US involvement is not a sure thing, this is an Asian thing, and besides their plate is already full, there’s no more space for another course. They will be better off in the sidelines.
I’m not surprised. Might be good to find out who is the biggest buyer of iron and other metals and minerals…and whoever proposed a bill that will allow foreigners to own property in the country?
In some industries, China has announced its ambition to be the biggest in the world in two years, there is massive capacity build up…
If ever, what happened in Quirino exposed our weakness…it exposed our vulnerability, that when faced with the threat of the loss of revenue – we will turn against each other…not much different from the Japanese collaborators of the past…will we ever learn?
holiday po pala sa pilipinas ngayon…
araw ng mga bayani..
kasama kaya iyong mga pulis at S.W.A.T.
na rumespondi dun sa mga chines hostages..
talaga naman po ang pilipinas,
sabi ni pres manuel quezon ” i`d rather see the
philippine run like hell by filipinos, than run like heaven
by the american`s..” ayan na nga po.. nag kaka totoo pa lagi. maging tapat tayo sa isat isa mga bloggers dito, mag pa ka totoo tayo, ang plipinas hanggat tiwaling pilipino ang namumuno, wala po tayong pa tutunguhan.. gumising na po sana ang lahat ng mamayan diyan..!!
Matanong ko lang Ka Oca, ano dapat gawin namin mga mamayan dito? Kayo dyan (kung saan man yan) ano naman ang gagawin nyo?
Yang area na yan sa South China Sea ay matagal nang may disputes. Sa nangyaring hostage crisis ng mga Chinese, wala namang dapat pagbabago sa stand ng Pilipinas sa disputed islands.
Sabi nga ng Reuters, Mayo pa ang activities na ginawa at hindi dapat idikit sa hostage crisis. Naniniwala ako na walang bearing ang hostage crisis sa problemang ito.
Will we soften our stand because of the hostage crisis? NO
Will we yield our claim because of the hostage crisis? NO
Will we allow the Chinese to use the hostage crisis to get the disputed island? NO
What will the Philippines do now? Never give up.
More reason for P’Noy to resolve the issue of the hostage taking incident. No white wash and make sure heads, no matter whose must roll. So that when the disputed islands will be put on the agenda, the hostage incident would already be a none issue.
Not that both issues are really related but so that the Chinese cannot use it anymore to pressure us on other matters using the hostage incident.
Ellen,
Just read this:
Did he really snub the event as a protest?
Don’t know how important this event is in the scheme of all national events “to warrant” attendance by dignitaries but I surmise it’s important enough, after all, it’s about heroes.
In any case, the wounds are still raw and so, I can understand the political value of staging such “protests”, eg., ambassador snubbing a national event, for the current Chinese authorities — it unites their own, a very useful tactic when faced with internal problems (I understand Tsang is up for re-election?)
On the other side of the “pond”, we too need to be tactical. Pres Aquino must start firing incompetents and bleeding useless people in his cabinet and in the police force, pimp slap Lim at the very least, and “sacrifice” them on the political altar.
He is currently perceived as weak, inept and useless — he will suffer a great deal more of bullying, not only by his own people but by other nationals if he doesn’t get off his backside and fast.
Aquino is extremely lucky that the disaster happened during the first 60 days of his admin — he now can devote the rest of his presidential time to make sure that his admin does better the next time around (as there’s every chance this kind of hostage taking won’t be the first nor the last.)
wala po tayong pa tutunguhan.. gumising na po sana ang lahat ng mamayan diyan..!!
But what do you want Pinoys to do now? Start a bloody revolution? Now, that will really appease the Chinese! Their comrades among the NPA will be so bleeding happy to offer the entire Philippines to the fellows in mainland China.
Ooops, that was a quote by ocayvalle – August 30, 2010 11:53 am
What is the Philippines going to do now, being one of the countries that claim some parts of the South China Sea?
Protest, parbleu! This is a separate incident! Use this as a kind of “counter-measure” if they really want a reason although this flag raising need not be a tit for tat. Philippines wants respect? Then, Aquino must be goddamn bold.
Protest the flag raising by the Chinese. What’s goddamn stopping RP from raising a howl of protest? This is a sublime, simply fantastic opportunity for Aquino (and his bleeding blundering idiot for secretary of foreign affairs) to show leadership and put the Philippines back on track.
Tell the Chinese that the act is just unacceptable. (Don’t worry, the Chinese won’t declare war on Pinas!) A strong note verbale should suffice but for heaven’s sake, RP must goddamn protest. Cry rape at the very least!
Anna;s right, the Chinese will not declare war on us, we are one of their essential markets and source of raw materials.
As it is, we cannot afford to lose face or leverage as we have countrymen everywhere…we cannot afford to offend anyone…I pray that we hurdle this obstacle before us and for Pnoy to step up to be the leader we have been longing to have…it should not be that difficult for him as compared to corrupt leaders before, he has the moral high ground to be his source of strength…there is strength in decency…if he must reorganize, let it be for the good of the country and not to appease foreigners…
Besides, the Chinese aren’t prepared to confront America yet. Bad for business.
Jug,
NOT protesting the flag raising will cause more damage to OFWs and to Pinas in the long run. Non action will be perceive as giving them a license to walk all over us.
Sending a strong note verbale is also a way to show that our government is still functionning if we need a reason at all.
perceived
The problem is, ang tagal na nating ginigising ang mga kababayan natin pero mukhang himbing na himbing sa pagtulog. Ilang rehimen na ang nagdaan, hanggang ngayon wala pa ring nababago sa depensa natin. Kesyo di daw priority ang modernization ng defense. Pero ito, kinakayan kayanan lang tayo ng mga malalaking bansa tulad ng Tsina.
NOT protesting the flag raising will cause more damage to OFWs and to Pinas in the long run. Non action will be perceive as giving them a license to walk all over us.
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Agree, thats why I also mentioned “not losing leverage” crying foul is a decent thing to do…although we may already lost face though as our past leader has shown that we can be bought…
Sadly, aye! Just hope we got an extremely good price for the sale 🙂
Ellen,
Somebody send me this, better to share it so People will know.
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Is everyone aware of this incident in Beijing five years ago? Parallels: Tiananmen Square and Lunetaby Aurora Pijuan on Friday, August 27, 2010 at 2:24pm The known facts are these: On August 19, 2005, Emmanuel “Bong” Madrigal, a Manila-based Filipino executive of the multinational Shell, was visiting Beijing on vacation with his wife Vivian, his daugher Regina Mia, and two younger daughters. That day, they rode a tourist bus to Tiananmen Square, the heart of the capitol. Upon arriving at the square, Emmanuel Madrigal was the first to descend from the bus, followed by Vivian and Regina Mia. A Chinese man wielding a scythe–in some reports it was described as a sword–suddenly appeared out of nowhere and hacked Emmanuel across his torso. He died on the spot. The man also attacked and seriously wounded Vivian. He then slashed at and killed Regina Mia. By this time, bystanders were trying to subdue the man, and Vivian shouted to her two other daughters to get away and save themselves. Somehow the girls made their way back to the hotel. Vivian was brought to a Beijing hospital, where she died several days later of her injuries. An Associated Press report still circulating on the internet states that the killer was Wang Gongzuo, 25, a farmer from eastern China’s Jiangsu province. He was sentenced to death for the murder of the Madrigals and executed a few weeks later, in September. The AP report states: ‘Wang’s motive for killing the two is unclear. After the incident occurred the Beijing Morning Post reported that he had wanted to ‘affect society using extreme actions,’ but didn’t elaborate. ” Reflect on the parallels. A family of vacationers on a tourist bus: the Leungs and the Madrigals. A killer out to “affect society using extreme actions”: Mendoza and Wang. A massacre in a public place of symbolic significance: The Quirino grandstand, where the presidential inauguration had been held just weeks before, and site of the civil society protests against the Marcos regime; and Tiananmen Square, since ancient times the symbol of the centralized power of the Chinese state, and site of the 1991 civil protests against the government. In both incidents, the state failed miserably in protecting innocent tourists. And there the parallels end. President Aquino has apologized to the families of Mendoza’s victims and conveyed his sorrow to the people of Hongkong, Chief Executive Donald Tsang, and Ambassador Lin Jian Chao. The Philippine National Police acknowledge that they botched matters beyond comprehension. Philippine legislators, ahead of their Hongkong counterparts, called for a full investigation. Philippine media organizations are looking to their own culpability in the affair. And masses of ordinary Filipinos, on TV, radio, print, and the Internet, are expressing collective horror, remorse and pity over the terrible fate of the innocent tourists, and bow their heads in shame before the Hong Kong people’s sorrow and anger. That is how it should be, that is only right. But. To this day, five years after it happened, there is no public record of any Chinese official acknowledging the tourist killings in Tiananmen Square and apologizing to the Madrigals, much less the Filipino people, for the murder of Emmanuel, Regina Mia and Vivian. Not a single expression of regret that the Chinese police failed in their duty to protect the lives of innocent tourists in the very heart of Beijing, in the symbolic center of a state that prides itself most of all for its ability to control and contain disorder. There was a total blackout on the part of the Chinese press, and, according to another news report, government censors quickly blocked many internet sites where Chinese users had begun to post comments about the killing. So we will likely never know what ordinary Chinese citizens had to say about about the incident. Maybe some of them were actually sorry for what happened. The closest thing to expressed regret was in fact the final reported action of the killer Wang, who waived his right to appeal the sentence of execution, and got a bullet in the back of his head. To add to the horror, it would appear that the Arroyo administration was complicit in the silence. No public statement was ever made by the Philippine government regarding the incident. Unlike in Hongkong, no flags were flown at half-mast in Manila, and no three-minute silence was observed to mark the deaths of the innocent Filipino tourists. No demand has ever been made by any Filipino official for an apology, and for an accounting. A full investigation of the Quirino Grandstand killing is ogoing. But what of that other killing, also in August, five years ago in Tiananmen Square?
protesting is supposed to be the easiest way to show disatisfaction. pinoys are not known to protest otherwise our streets should have been full of protesters everyday.we are known to solve our problems by going to church and pray.therefore we also dislike people who use the streets and call them troublemakers and leftists.
🙂 🙂 🙂
hehehe! like norpil! 🙂
Ano ang ipinagngangakngak natin … matagal na tayong hawak ng China …. Pangulo natin Intsik … mga may-ari ng mga Banko — intsik … pati na yong flag carrier nating eroplano .. intsik din ang may-ari. May mga Intsik na rin tayong mga Mayors at Governors …
Tanong … May nakita na ba kayong katulong na Intsik?
ma walang galang po. iyong ngyari po sa beijing, five years ago ay napakalayo po doun sa hostage taking sa luneta, iyon po ay masasabi nating isang amok, at kung sino man ang makita niya ay kanyang uundayan ng taga, ang masama nga lang the madrigal`s was at the wrong place and at the wrong time,at iyong me gawa ng krimen ay naparusahan ng kamatayan.. iyong pag asa na i save sila ay wala po.. eto pung sa luneta hostage drama, lahat po ng angulo at pag kakataon ay puwedeng ma isalba iyong mga hostages, sa katunayan,me mga negotiator kuno, pero pang kotong lang yata ang alam.. nag papakawala na nga ng hostages iyong si mendoza, ang ka palpakan ay kitang kita naman at live sa buong mundo, ang nakakasama ng loob. ay iyong impunity ng mga kriminal at lakas ng loob na gumawa ng krimen sa pilipinas, iyong maguindanao massacre nga, hanggang ngayon wala pang nangyayari, at mukhang isa lang ito sa mga unsolved crimes sa pilipinas,iyong extra judicial killings ng mga progressive blocks at torture at salvaging ng mga ka pulisan at militar.. napakadame na po niyan, mag antay pa tayo, pag nag karoon ng malaking krimen ulit sa pilipinas, sigurado ako, matatabunan na ang luneta massacre..!! gising na po tayo, at tayo ay mag paka totoo na sa sarili natin..!! magaling lang tayo sa salita, pero wala naman sa gawa..!!
Ang tuwang tuwa dito ay si Glorya … natatabunan na ang mga kawalanghiyaan niya.
Ano na nga ba ang ginagawa ng tororot komisyon na iyan … sabi nga ni Igang ocayvalle .. ..!! magaling lang tayo sa salita, pero wala naman sa gawa..!!
Sabi nga ni Noynoy “Kayo … ang … boss ko”. Sino kayang “kayo” ang binabanggit nito?
I have to agree with Ocayvalle regarding the 2005 Tinanmen incident where a Filipino couple git killed by a wacko. It’s like comparing apples and oranges. If we would go by that logic, we should file a diplomatic prostest every time a kababayan gets killed in a foreign land. And foreigners killed in our country like the Iranian students killed in a bus accident, their govt should also file a protest against us.
It’s very clear that what happened in Luneta last Monday was a tragedy that could have been prevented but our authorities bungled on their jobs.
Here’s a comment by a certain Mr. Steven Hunter on a news item of abs-cbnnews.com titled “What about the Filipinos killed in Tiananmen Square?”
The So-Called “Parallels” Between the Beijing & Manila Incidents
by Steven Hunter on Mon, 08/30/2010 – 16:02
The parallels begin and end with the settings. Yes, both had innocent families as victims in a crime perpetrated by men removed from sanity. However, there is a crucial difference. In Beijing, the deranged man delivered death almost instantaneously, and it was the Madrigals’ misfortune that police weren’t nearby when they were attacked. At the Quirino Grandstand, the police had ten hours to pacify or neutralize the hostage-taker and save the tourists. They did neither. In Beijing, bystanders restrained the man until police could come over to arrest him. In Manila, bystanders watched with glee and took souvenir pictures before, during and after the hostage crisis. Two reporter friends of mine lost their personal belongings in a matter of seconds, when gunfire made everyone duck for cover. That’s Beijing, and that’s Manila.
With regards to the “flag raising of China on the disputed island, the Philippine government should make their voice heard and file a diplomatic protest since this concerns the national patrimony. Don’t let the Chinese pressure us using the hostage taking incident on other issues.
Question is, will P’Noy turn a blind eye on this or make a “silent protest”? Abangan!
Well, if China wants to show their arrogant attitude toward us Pinoys…ang sagot simple lamang, “MAGKAISA tayong PINOY na e boycot ang Made in China na produkto kahit ano pa man yan”?
At pabalikin ng China ang lahat ng Instik sa Pinas? Like ng ginawa ng Indonesia sa kanila ilang taon na ang nakakalipas…ano akala nila, sila lamang ba ang marunong magpakita ng pagkadismaya?
Balweg,mahirap iboycot ang gawa ng mga singkit,di mo ba alam kahit peke ang mga prodokto nila ay nagpapakamatay sa pag-bili ating mga kababayan,dahil ang salaping kinikita ng kanilang kamaganak sa pagpaalipin ay galing sa mga singkit, sa haba ng panahon basta imported naglalaway ang sambayanan,para mapasa-kanya.Mahigit na 70% lamang ng pangkaraniwan bahay ng pinoy ay GAWANG NG SINKIT,mula gamitsa kusina,sala,radyo T.V.pati pananmit at mga bagay na ating kinakain ay imperted na rin.Kaya tayo di makaahon dahil lahat ay imported.Nakita mo naman papaanong dinidiyos ni pandak ang mga singkit dahil malakas maglagay sa administrasyon niya.
what the Philippines can do about China Flag raising in the south China Sea…not much, except to try and build up it naval power to at least show that it can last a day or two just in case. but China is not ready to dominate the world by force as yet, so nothing much to worry…but it can call any one’s bluff, including the powerful USA of it has to. that is its standing foreign policy ever since it becomes a member of the super power..thread gently with a big stick.
It’s the same when Russia did a Flag raising in the bottom of the disputed Arctic, it prompted the Harper government to build more icebreakers to show the maple leaf navies presence in the arctic while the UN is figuring out which part belongs to who.
#25 Ocayvalle, I think I agree with you…iba nga iyong nag-amok kaysa nang-hostage…
I watched the Fareed Zakaria episode over the weekend and he was interviewing a gentleman who said that China has to secure the South seas if she wants to be a world power one day. Right now China does not have the capability to compete with the US militarily but it is not remote. This is why, as early as now, China is enabling all the countries along its path to be a # 1 power. The Philippines is along that path. Kaya nga ang US eh panay ang bantay sa atin. I have a feeling that Pnoy is the US pick for our President. This is why they even committed to lending more money to us. As if we are not indebted up to our eyeballs yet. US does not like us to be buddies with China kaya kahit hirap siya, panay ang pahiram ng pera sa Pilipinas.
# 31, balweg my friend, it`s not the chinese who are punishing the filipino people, natural lang po ang ginagawa ng chinese authorities for the good of their people, ang dapat sa atin ay e boycott na nanatin ang ating mga politicians, it`s time that we all wake up, hindi pa tayo pina pinpanganak, iyong mga filipino na politicians kuno, they are all doing it for their own selfish interest, review your history from pres aguinaldo to pres quezon and to this day..during pres aguinaldo,he have to order an arrest warrant and death to mabini, the reason mabini is a threat to his personal ambition, look at pres quezon, he wants an independent from usa, not because he wants to preserve the country and the people, he wants independence because spanish will be a second class citizen if the usa will still hold the country, and it will be good to filipino who will be in equal footing with the americans and the spanish as well, remember the filipinos are indios during their time, form then on after quezon`s famous speech ” i`ll rather see the philippines run like hell by filipinos than run like heavens by the americans..” lahat ng nagpanggap na lider ng ating bansa, walang namang ginawa sa bayan at sa mga mamamayan, kundi puro pang sariling ginhawa at interest lang nila, mag paka totoo po tayo, sa dami ng nagugutom sa atin sino pa kaya nag naniniwala.. mas madami po ang mahirap sa atin kaysa maginhawa.. matagal na nating nadidinig sa ating mga kababayan na nasa pamahalaan, at mga nasa radyo at manunulat, na kada may unos at paghihirap sa ating bayan, bagkus ay tayo daw ay makakabangon din. mag paka totoo po tayo, na ang pamilyang dumadanas o nakadanas ng unos sa kanyang buhay, kung makakabangon man ay sa kanyang sariling initiative, wala po siyang inasahan sa ating pamahalaan, at kung meron mang kakaunting na itulong ang mga taga pamahalaan, sigurado headline sa lahat ang kanyang ginawang kabutihan kuno..it`s time that we all filipinos wake up, huwag na tayong mag papadala sa mga pangako ng ating mga lider, tayo po na ordinaryong mamamayan ang mas nakakarami kung ano ang narapat sa atin.. hindi ang mga hinalal kuno na walang inisip kundi sa sariling kapakanan.. we us filipino citizen is now unite and be independent to the people in the goverment.. sinasamantala lang po tayong mga mamamayan na ang gusto lang natin ay mabuhay ng matiwasay at mabigyan ng magandang kinabukasan ang ating mga anak.. tayo po na mga ordinaryong mamamayan ang nakaka alma kung anu ang ating patututunguhan.. i believe tht their is no filipino born yet to save our country, mag paka totoo na po tayo..!!
Ang tuwang tuwa dito ay si Glorya … natatabunan na ang mga kawalanghiyaan niya. – Tedanz
Huwag kang mag-alala Tedanz, sagot ka ni Mon Tulfo. Habang puro tungkol sa hostage rescue fiasco ang sinusulat ng media, nag-a-update si Tulfo ng mga kabulastugan ng mga Pidal.
Basahin mo ito, walang duda kung sino ang tinutukoy sa last part:
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20100828-289179/The-rescue-would-have-been-successful-if-
from Tedanz “Ano na nga ba ang ginagawa ng tororot komisyon na iyan”
Yan din ang di ko pa rin maubos maisip kung ano meron si Hilario Davide at siya ang tinalaga ni Pnoy sa commission na yan e siya mismo ang nagpanumpa sa illegal na presidente ng nakaraang administrasyon tingin ko mahihirapan si Davide papaano isasalba si Arroyo pero sa huli naniniwala akong isasalba pa rin nya ang dati nyang amo. Diyan ko napupulaan si Pnoy kasi yong mga dating kalawang ng pamahalaan ay nandyan pa rin magkakasama na sila. Tanong…. di kaya mahawa si Pnoy ng titano ng mga yan?
Ang tuwang tuwa dito ay si Glorya … natatabunan na ang mga kawalanghiyaan niya.
Tedanz tama ka uli dyan parelax relax muna si Gloria habang nagkakgulo ang boung mundo sa hostage krisis na yan at habang naka relax siya syempre marami na siyang maiisip kasama ng mga abogado nya at kakampi sa kongreso kagaya ni Edcel lagman na nag aastang malinis na oposisyon upang gumawa ng usaping tatabon sa mga anomalyang kinasangkutan ng mga arroyo at ng kanyang mga alipores.
I’ve been to HK several times in the past and one thing I’ve noticed is that their immigration officers manning the counters are stern looking, matitigas ang mga mukha. Maybe so because they are trained to be that way and that their job is to scrutinize the travel documents to prevent unwanted incoming travelers.
That is why I wanted to believe the news report relayed to me by a friend now working in HK that shows a Jinggoy on CCTV treated “normally” like any otherincoming passengers. I also remembered that there’s a glass between the immigration officer and the passenger with small opening like the ones in the banks tellers. One has to slide their travel documents thru the small opening. Now I’m wondering, how did the immigration officer “throw” Jinggoy’s passport to him thru the small opening?
Is Jinggoy lying, exaggerating or what? Just asking.
I’m still trying to look for the news video on youtube to see it with my own 2 eyes.
RE: Balweg,mahirap iboycot ang gawa ng mga singkit,di mo ba alam kahit peke ang mga prodokto nila ay nagpapakamatay sa pag-bili ating mga kababayan,…~gusa77
KOREK…kaya nga, if na gusto ng sambayanan Pinoy naipakita ang solidarity against whoever na inaapak ang ating pagka-Pinoy so dapat simulan natin at parang domino effect yan.
Magsisigaya na ang karamihan…well, for me sisimulan ko na ito atleast kahit papaano e may isang Pinoy na against their onesided na katwiran.
Like now…mas preperable ko made in the Philippines…oopps Intsik din pala ang may gawa nito, wala tayong tulak-kabigin nito?
Mayroon naman made from Korea at iba pang mga bansa why NOT di ba…at yong locally made sa Pinas.
Right now, ang buy ko made from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, EU, US and other countries except to avoid made fron China.
Alam naman natin ang daming imitation na galing sa China at sure halos nasa bangketa yan sa Pinas? Dito nga sa aking lugar e isang tangbak ang galing Tsina…pero tuloy ang pagbebenta nito kasi nga malaking kita ito sa mga bussinessman eh.
Ngayon…kung magpapakatotoo tayong Pilipino, dapat magsimula na tayo na huwag bibili ng produkto galing sa kanilang bansa…sure matatauhan yan.
Bakit…marami namang bansa na mayroong murang produkto like Korea, Thailand, Singapore, etc. etc.
Kung magpapakatotoo ang Pilipino, if NOT so forget it…magtiis na lamang tayo na apak-apakan ng mga iyan.
Talagang ganyan ang buhay…mahirap nating ipagduldulan ang ating sarili sa mga kapwa-Pinoy natin na mayroong sariling mundo.
E ka nga, mind our own business…di ba! Mahirap nang mapagalitan na nanghihimasok tayo sa kanilang buhay.
balweg,
nakikiisa ako sa yo sa pag iwas ng pagbili ng produkto sa bansang yan…hanggang sa makakaya ko…
sa tingin ko nagkamali ang US at Europe nung nilipat nila ang maga manufacturing nila dun, tingnan mo nagaya lahat ng produkto nila, mura pa…
even as we blog there are companies that are not producing their proprietary components in China, they are being produced in the Philippines, mas katiwatiwala pa rin tayong mga pinoy kahit papano. dapat makita ito ng ating pamahalaan at gumawa ng paraan na makuha natin ang mga oportunidad na to…
kahit sa pagawa ng papel hindi makakalusot ang produkto ng mga yan basta basta sa US and EU markets kasi ang raw material nila galing sa rain forest ng Indonesia, walang FSC (forest stewardship certificate) at chain of custody. kaya yun, ginagawang “dumping ground” ang pinas, itong mga negosyante naman natin kesyo mura, bili ng bili, kahit magsara na ang mga local na pabrika natin sige pa rin nang sige…
sana kagaya mo ang mga kababayan natin balweg, kahit magkatunggali tayo sa halos lahat ng bagay at least pareho tayong may pagmamahal sa sariling bansa…
At pabalikin ng China ang lahat ng Instik sa Pinas? Like ng ginawa ng Indonesia sa kanila ilang taon na ang nakakalipas…ano akala nila, sila lamang ba ang marunong magpakita ng pagkadismaya? – balweg
Why are you promoting violence? You are a priest as you implied sometime ago? What happened in Indonesia, after the fall of Suharto, is a RAMPAGE, against their kind. Indonesian with Chinese blood but Indonesians themselves were affected some were rape and killed.
What happened in our country recently is about a disgruntled ex-cop who killed innocent Chinese tourist, our guest in our country. They are INNOCENT!
If ever, in this blog we collectively go against personalities in government or the government itself, what many in my mind is asking for is policy direction for the better or Good Governance, and not criminal actions to promote change!
balweg i think you are misguided!
kahit sa pagawa ng papel hindi makakalusot ang produkto ng mga yan basta basta sa US and EU markets kasi ang raw material nila galing sa rain forest ng Indonesia, walang FSC (forest stewardship certificate) at chain of custody. kaya yun, ginagawang “dumping ground” ang pinas, itong mga negosyante naman natin kesyo mura, bili ng bili, kahit magsara na ang mga local na pabrika natin sige pa rin nang sige…jug
Pinas becomes “dumping ground” because our government allows it. Our Government can stop it if they really wants to! Dahil sa dilehensiya kaya siguro kahit na magsara pa ang mga local na pabrika natin. Economics may have a role here also. Our government needs to make policy changes effectively that will discourage cheap imports and promote our own to include finding ways to stop smuggling in our country. Nasa gobyerno ito!
China’s flag raising claiming our Kalayaan Group of Island!
If true, our government should file a Diplomatic Protest! and at the same time shape-up with GOOD GOVERNANCE as a guiding force to rally the people behind it, pinoys and chinoys, spanyol na pinoy, hilaw na pinoy atbp and hopefully by then we can become economically and militarily capable of depending ourselves! Not without a fight! but no to HATE and Bigotry!
agree with you here olan.
how could GMA be laughing at the incident as this all what she is telling all along her LEGACY to the nation…
Kung ako siguro ang presidente, magpapadala ako ng diplomatic protest at sasabihin ko eh ganito………
To: The Prime Minister,
People’s Republic of China
Subject: FLAG
Dear Sir,
It had come to my attention that the Chinese flag is “UP- YOURS” under the sea. But as…………………..
(Pasensiya na kayo,….mahina ako umingles eh.)
The Chinese government has not only been exerting its influence in our region but all over the world. It has
business interests in most South American countries, in countries that used to be part of the USSR and now its funding the construction of the East Timor military headquarters.
Tedanz: there used to be the Amahs who were nannies…pero wala na akong nakikita ngayon.. ang malungkot na nakikita ko ngayon…sa mga golf clubs…ang mga naglalaro ay singkit mata (Chinese or Koreans) ang mga caddies or tiga bitbit ng golf clubs ay Filipinos…sa mga swimming pools ang mga naglalangoy ay mga singkit mata…pero ang mga yaya ay Pilipinas..ang mga trucks na may carga na bakal etc. ang signs sa gilid ng trucks ay chinese characters…hindi na ba tayo makabagon? lagi na lang ba tayo under? sa mga Spaniards, or Americano, or sa mga Hapones? ngayon Chinese or Koreans? ang tanong ko sa isang pinsan…ang sagot sa akin that is globalization! abg sabi nga there are two sides in a coin….
glpbalization or the wheel of fortune…keeps turning around!
“Tanong … May nakita na ba kayong katulong na Intsik?” – tedanz
Meron…ku kunti nga lang, some of them would not admit they’re chinese, but either korean or japanese.
Some here blamed Mendoza for the carnage; others are pointing to the PNP, Lim, and yes; Jesse Robredo…and many more.
I’d like to accuse the driver as the culprit in this incident, pag nag day-off sana si Mr Driver…the tourist bus would have been delayed, and Mendoza could have hijacked a regular bus going to the Ilocos Region or Laguna/Batangas. Then, this would not be much of an issue kahit patay lahat and mga pasahero.
Firing anyone that contributed to this botched “rescue” is not the immediate answer, it will not solve anything. Rather, PNoy should give everyone an ultimate “second chance”.
It’s a very young administration, no one knew the hostage taking would escalate in this manner.
It’s quite a hard lesson.
Ellen, three comments above were supposed to be under “Robredo washes..” tread. Sorry.
Tru blue, Just post the same comments there.
Thanks.