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Not taxpayers’ money for Arroyo’s treatment

Offering taxpayers money for Gloria Arroyo's treatment
President Aquino should thank Gloria Arroyo for rejecting his offer to bring in medical specialists to examine her or else that would have created another round of controversy on the source of funds for that undertaking.
Photo by Belna Cabasan. From Stella Arnaldo's wall.

In his press conference Wednesday, where Aquino affirmed the decision of the Department of Justice not to allow Arroyo to leave the country, he offered to bring in the medical specialists that his predecessor is supposed to be consulting abroad.

Malaya: GMA now a battle of spin;contortionists seek to project high ground
http://www.malaya.com.ph/nov11/news1.html

“If necessary, we are prepared to answer the financial aspect of treating Ms Arroyo,” Aquino said.

Aquino used the word “we”. I suppose he meant the government because if he was referring to his own personal money, he should have used the pronoun “I.”

Now, if it’s government money, there has been no appropriation in the budget for Arroyo’s treatment. That would be illegal.

And I don’t think taxpayers would be happy to foot the bill for Arroyo’s doctors. I, myself, would object to it.

Of course, the President can tap other sources like his Social Fund, which comes from revenues of the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation or the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes.

But then, that would be depriving the hundreds of indigents who beg from those funds. In the case of PCSO, some line up for days for a measly P5, 000 assistance.

That was a mindless offer made more for propaganda than anything else.

Bayan Muna party-list Rep. Teodoro Casiño said in a TV interview that Aquino just wanted to appear “magnanimous” after he disallowed Arroyo to travel, a decision which is being challenged by Arroyo before the Supreme Court.

The problem, Casino said, “ang masasalang dito ay taumbayan na naman dahil sino ba ang magbabayad ng halaga na yon e di tayo na naman. (it would be the people who would shoulder the burden.)”

Casiño also raised the irony of Aquino’s offer: “”Bakit yung isang magnanakaw sa kabang-yaman bibigyan mo pa ng dagdag na pera ng taxpayer? Parang hindi tama. (why would you give someone who plundered the people’s money more of the taxpayers’ money? It doesn’t sound right. )”

Arroyo was interviewed by Manila Standard even before Aquino announced the travel ban on her and she said she could very well afford to fly in foreign experts herself but would not risk it because even the most advanced hospitals in the country were not equipped to perform a tetracycline-labeled bone biopsy, which she needed.

“I can invite the doctors to come here except the protocol has never been done here and they have extensive research facilities abroad,” Manila Standard quoted Arroyo as having said.

“I am finished finding the cure here.I’ve tried everything. I have undergone three operations, had my neck opened three times, and these failed, and not one doctor has found the cure because they cannot say what is wrong with me, ” Arroyo said.

I have stated in my previous column that I am for allowing Arroyo to seek treatment wherever she wants it because it is her right. The Constitution guarantees every Filipino citizen’s right to travel.

Of course, Arroyo violated that constitutional guarantee with the issuance by her former justice secretary, Alberto Agra, of DOJ Circular 41 authorizing the justice secretary to place under the Watch list any one not yet charged in court but is a subject of a preliminary investigation. But that doesn’t justify this government, which ran on the pledge of reform, of continuing that inhuman act.

In justifying the travel ban on Arroyo, Aquino mentioned the non-bailable case of electoral sabotage in the 2007 elections that the DOJ is accusing Arroyo of.

Does Aquino know that , that case is yet to be filed? The DOJ panel of prosecutors is still in the stage of conducting preliminary investigation. Only after the DOJ finds probable cause to charge Gloria Arroyo of electoral sabotage in the 2007 elections will a case be filed before the Sandiganbayan.

The Aquino administration is one year and five months old. They are still in the stage of finding probable cause to make Gloria Arroyo accountable for the crimes she committed against the Filipino people.

That ‘s the concern raised by Sen. Francis “Chiz” Escudero who urged De Lima to charge Arroyo in court so that it’s the court that will issue a Hold Departure Order. “The process has to be right,” he said.

Preventing Arroyo to travel even without a pending case in court may seem okay to many because she is very much disliked. Many say it’s giving her a dose of her own medicine. But Escudero said, “What if they do it to you and me?”

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160 Comments

  1. MPRivera MPRivera

    kapag ganyan kagalante ang iyong kalaban ay puwede ng walang kaibigan.

    tsk. tsk. tsk.

    PeNoy, sobra naman na ‘ata ang iyong pagpapakita ng kabaitan sa sinasabi mong iyong ipapakulong. Pero bakit gamit ang pera ng bayan? Sino nagbigay sa iyo ng permiso?

    Sino ba talaga ang sinabi mo noon na mga boss mo?

    Naglolokohan na tayo niyan, eh.

    Gumastos ka para sa pagpapagamot ni goyang, okey lang kung pera mo. Pero kung galing sa buwis ng mamamayan ay ibang usapan na at hindi na tayo magkakasundo. Peks man.

    O, hindi ka pa ba tatayo diyan sa paglalaro mo? tinatawag ka na ng yaya mo. Oras na para maligo at magpalit ng diapers, no?

  2. Tedanz Tedanz

    Noong una bilib na ako sa hindi nila pag-payag dito kay Glrya .. sana … pero noong sinabi niya na sagot ng Gobyerno kung payag siya sa proposal niya …. bigla akong natauhan ….. di pala normal yong nagsasalita. Sabi ko ….. ahhhhh oki ….

    Isipin niya sana na itong mag-asawang ito ay hindi patas lumaban …. lahat kasinungalingan ang lumalabas sa kanilang imburnal na bunganga …. dapat pusong bakal siya pagdating sa ganitong sitwasyon. Kung babakla-bakla ka … ay naku …. kakainin ka lang ng mga ito.

  3. Mike Mike

    I suggest PNoy use his own money. If he can’t afford it, maybe sell his shares in Hacienda Luisita and use the proceeds to pay for the doctors. Just don’t use the people’s money.

  4. manuelbuencamino manuelbuencamino

    teka, teka…hindi ba ang may gusto na makulong si GMA ay ang taongbayan din? O eh bakit ayaw nilang bayaran ang doktor na papupuntahin dito para hindi makatakas si GMA?

    Eh yun prosecution ni GMA hindi ba taxpayers’ money din ang gagamitin dun? Eh bakit hindi tayo gagastos para hindi makaalis si GMA? Paano natin siya idedemanda kung wala na siya dito dahil ayaw natin bayaran ang doktor niya?

  5. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Ano pa ang hahanapin ninyo kay PNOT sa Senado ay walang nagawa ng husto ngayon pang hawak niya ang mataas na puwesto. Dito lang sa atin ang nagyayaring ganito na kung sino pa ang WALANGHIYA ay siya pa ang nabibigyan ng biyaya pero ang mga MABUTI ay nawawalan pa ng trabaho at pinapatay pa.
    Tanga at Tanga ang mga naka alalay kay PNOT dahil di agad nila ini isip ang mga sinasabi sa news. Akala nila ay matutuwa pa ang mga tao na di nga nila papayagan lumabas kaso ang pera naman ng bayan ang gagastusin nila para sa isang dakilang magnanakaw. Eh Kung pumayag si Pandak at dalhin niya d2 ang pinaka mahal na doctor at mga machine papayag pa rin ba sila na gagastusin ng gobyerno natin. Pera na lang ng mga Aquino’s ang gastusin ninyo.

    Tanga talaga..

  6. parasabayan parasabayan

    We can not have our cake and eat it too. Yan ang kasabihan. Gusto ba natin si pandak na managot ng kasalanan niya o gusto nating maawa sa kanya at pakawalan siya? I understand pinoy’s passion to make the pandak accountable for her cheating and stealing ways. I do not have any understanding nor compassion for the bitch! Pnoy’s decision to possibly foot the bill may not be a savory alternative to most of us but it is a clever idea para malaman natin kung “medical reasons” nga naman ang rason sa pangingibang bansa niya. Her travel with an entourage of about 20 or more people is very fishy. I-lifestyle check natin ang mga nasa listahan niya ng mga kasama sa paglalakbay. Sabi nga ni Tongue T, napakadaling maghihiwala-hiwalay ang mga alipores ni pandak pagdating sa Germany o kahit na anong malaking airport sa Europe. Hindi katulad ng airport sa atin na super liit at walang efficient transportation from the airports. Sa Europe, kukuha lang sila ng train at lahat na ng destination eh kaya nilang puntahan. Lalo na ang mga sugapang galamay niya eh bihasa na dyan sa FREE TRAVEL na kasama siya. Alam na nila ang pasikot-sikot.

    Ellen on this one, I beg to disagree with you. Tapangan natin ng konti ang sikmura natin so we can have these crooks behind bars. Again, my expectations on Pnoy’s leadesrhip is so low. But if he can only put one big crook behind bars, sasaludo ako sa kanya!

    If Pnoy has to spend the people’s money to ascertain that pandak and her cronies will be around when the cases against them unravel, so be it. Hindi niya ninanakaw and perang ito. Let us just say na he is spending the money of the people to make sure that those who committed crimes against the people will be brought to justice.

    Kung ang US at Europe eh gumagastos ng trillions (to the detriment of their economies) to make sure that the dictators and terrorists are eliminated, can we not sacrifice a few millions too to make sure that pandak who abused her powers and stole from her fellowmen will be treated for humanitarian reasons so she and her cronies will not be scott free when the judgement day comes?

  7. chijap chijap

    #6 i agree.

    People are so focused on potential cost of the doctors brought in, when it is not an illegal act. In fact it show we are treating her with respect in spite of what she has done.

    GMA’s health is important. What is also important is we provide her things that is favorable to us and not to her without violating her rights.

    To get some, you need to give some.

    And her rejecting the offer shows GMA is not sincere. The move by Aquino shows that GMA is continuing to fool us.

    Lets all not be fooled by her or get sidetracked.

  8. vic vic

    The Offer is all part of the Strategy each side is playing against each other…it is some kind of a “bluff” that the opponent will have to think an awful many times to think before taking the bet or not…eventually each will either fold or call the bet…all in a game.

  9. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    Hello, makikisabay na din ako sa # 6, Para-sa-Bayan (ito)..mataas ang puntos at very sensible ang mga sinsabi, mayroong human-nation’s values..98% ang marka ko sa kanyang maka-tao;maka-Diyos;at maka-bayang layunin..Ito kasing si GMA ( o baka naman mga utos-idiya ng mga Arroyo-Pidal and companies, etc.., kaya nasira ang kanyang admin..okay, naman yata ang kanyang naging pangulo na Ama, iwan sa nanay side ?…), napaka-mga bad, and ugly and ipinunlang imahen-image sa Bayan { na pawang.????..mula Edsa-1, at sa 9-na Taong panunungkulan ?..at nasaan na ang mga taga-pagtangol niya noon, sa Impeachment,litaw-na-litaw ang mga litid sa leeg, sa pagtatangol ?..wala na ?..are they really good friends ?.or kasanga lang sa maruruming layuning $$$$ ?..},siya din ang maysala..”Kung ano daw, ang itinanim, iyon din ang Aanihin”..Pati tuloy si Pangulong Pnoy, at Taong bayan, di makain o maintindihan ang klase ng pagkain ( GMA admin ) na kanyang na-ipunla sa isipan ng mga Pilipino..Pati pictures-letrato nila, damang-dama ang pakla ng pagkakamali, at kalituhan !..Kahit na sa usapang, Free Will or Free Choice, iyan ang pinili ng pamilya, kaya dyan sila patutungo, liko-likong landas..Gusto (ko )ng ma-awa, at iba pa, etc…ngunit, iyon ang naging voluntary choice ng “magalanti-at- may-pangsariling” layuning pamilya..winasak ang Isang Diwa, Isang Pilipino, at isang Bansa ?…sayang-na-sayang na mga pagkakataon..Sana magsilbi na Aral ito sa mga susunod na magiging Pangulo ng Pilipinas…Bilang isang kristyano, I wish the family to be truthful and humble ( prayerful-Christlike ), for reconciliations. Tangapin ang kasalanan, sa pakumbabang paraan, huwag tumakas ( si Erap nga di ginawa iyon ),humingi ng saklolo, sa nagawang pagkakamali. Sabi nga,” nasa Diyos ang Awa, sa mga pagkakamaling nagawa “..Taong-Bayan din ang mag-sasalba sa kanya, hindi ang sang-katirba na mga Abogados, at mga salita ni Ms Horn(y) na tagapagsalita…May God Bless them for a change of their minds, decisions, to stay in the country and just invite the experts on her medical problems ( even with questionable source of medical expenses, this can be debateble later on..)..Tranquility of the mind-set, follows the Healing process, this can only be attained through being truthful and humble..Gawin na nila ito, para bumaba na ang temperatura ng bayan, at mismo sina GMA at ng pamilya..Likas sa Pilipinong kaugalian ang mapag-patawad,kung ito ay taos sa puso na hinihingi..huwag tatakasan, at kakanlong sa kapwa kadilimang mga lugar. Maliit at laging may hangganan ang buhay sa mundong ibabaw, mahalaga’y kasaysayang maganda ( beautiful footprints,be a true Hero ).

  10. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    Kaya pala nag-mamadaling ma-ngibang bansa si GMA, sabi-reported ng Abante News, OCtober 25, 2012, approved na daw ang Asylum sa Dominican Republic, kunwaring nag-iimbistiga ang DOJ at DFA..Kaya siguro, nagmadaling umuwi si SC, para silipin ang TRO ( matagal na din yatang approved ).Kinokondisyon lang ang kahinaan ng, at himutok ng Taong Bayan ?..This procedures will just add more salts to the wounds of the Pilipino people, again and again..Bakit pa kasi nagkaroon pa ng bansang Pilipinas ?..sana pinabayaan na lang sa, either, USA or Hapon,..siguro, kulang ang “mandarambong” as hoodlums in robe, sabi ni dating pangulo na Erap..Matalas talaga ang dila-tongue nila, mula ki M. Quezon ( who favored Philippines run like Hell, than by the US as Heaven )..tsktsktsk..

  11. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Sabi ng iba ay mag sacrifice ng millions ulit para kay Pandak???? ilang milyons na naman ang gagastusin at di pa ba tayo natuto na BILYON na nga ang nakurakot at mag sasacrifice na naman tayo sa kanya. Siya pa ang nabibiyaan ng grasya. Kailangan lang natin d2 ay tapat na tao ang naka puwesto at di tulad ni De Lima na doble cara. Sacrifice kada hingi ba ni Pandak ay kailangan mag sacrifice lagi tayo. Mas mainam na gastusin ang pera sa mga tunay na mahihirap kesa kay Pandak. Inutil lang ang mga naka upo mga mahahalagang department sa gobyerno natin. Puro recycle na tao at mga doble cara. Mahina pa ang presidente natin..
    Sobra na ang SACRIFICE ng bansa natin para sa mag asawang Arroyo. Mayroon ng report ang Senado ano at hanggang ngayon ay di pa nila nasasampahan ng kaso. Mahina at engot ang mga nakapuwesto kasi. Iyun lang ang dapat natin palitan at di na natin kailangan pang mag bayad para lang kay Arroyo.

  12. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Al Capone who outsmarted the US justice system so many times finally got slammed into jail because he was charged with tax evasion and not murder and all those other crimes he was being charged with prior. That was smart.

    Is the DOJ not as smart? Is it that stupid and incompetent? It’s taking too long to file formal charges against Arroyo.

    Or is De Lima really that smart and has actually been pulling the wool over over our eyes all this time? It’s a question more and more people are beginning to entertain now.

  13. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    So far I don’t recall having read or heard from De Lima the reason why it is taking this long to file formal charges against Arroyo. Has she? Has she actually been asked this question by any news reporter?


  14. Malaya: GMA now a battle of spin;contortionists seek to project high ground

    Asked if public funds will be used for Arroyo, he said, “On the basis of national interest, yes.”

    On the fund sources, Lacierda said they have yet to talk to Budget Secretary Florencio Abad about it, or if there is a need to create a special private account to finance Arroyo’s possible medical treatment here.

    “We will have to defer to Secretary Butch Abad as to what fund will be used for that,” he said, adding that the President’s Social Fund should not be considered as it is intended to address the concerns of the poor.

    http://www.malaya.com.ph/nov11/news1.html

  15. Lacierda, however, stressed Malacañang wants Arroyo to remain in the country to face complaints against her, including plunder and electoral sabotage.

    http://www.malaya.com.ph/nov11/news1.html

    No plunder and electoral sabotage has yet been filed in court. They are still in the preliminary investigation stage. On electoral sabotage in the 2007 election, the DOJ prosecutors are still investigating if there’s probable cause to charge Gloria Arroyo and her husband Mike.

  16. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    The game .. the moves on the chessboard are being played out. Who can play this game smarter? This is no game for Little Miss Muffets or Little Jack Horners.

  17. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    This offer of Aquino to foot the bill. I think it is a counter ploy against the Arroyos.

    The Arroyos have been laying the foundation on their escape into exile by incessantly saying they are being persecuted. Aquino’s camp offers to foot the bill for the doctor’s trip here. I think it is a counter ploy that helps to dull the charge of all out persecution and vengeance.

    Although I don’t mind this administration’s going all out to persecute and prosecute the Arroyos with hammer and thongs. Give them a taste of both now and after they land in jail.

  18. Tedanz Tedanz

    Kung i-pipol power na lang kaya ninyo yang pamilyang Arroyo para matapos na ang paghahasik nila ng problema sa inyong Bansa. Mula’t sapol sila na ang problema niyo. Gawan na lang ng bakod na walang pintuan ang palasyo nila sa Pampanga. Wala naman na silang elikopter dahil pinagbebenta na ni baboy.
    “ksp” lang ang tangnang Glorya na yan. Akala mo kawawang kawawa na siya …. di niya iniisip yong milyon-milyong Pinoy na kanilang niloko at pinagnakawan. Dapat nga sa mga yan ay pagbabarilin sa Ayala … isama niyo na din yang mga General na sangkot sa kurakutan … iilan lang ang mga yan.

  19. bayonic bayonic

    … So, walang “world class” na ospital sa buong Pilipinas ? I thought we have a hospital here that is ” one of the world’s best “

  20. jawo jawo

    “I am finished finding the cure here. I’ve tried everything. I have undergone three operations, had my neck opened three times, and these failed, and not one doctor has found the cure because they cannot say what is wrong with me, ” Arroyo said.

    Because aside from being a thief, a liar, and a cheat, you know damn well there’s really nothing wrong with you. Why don’t you try a forensic pathologist for a change ? They will open you up once and they will surely know what (if any) is wrong with you.

  21. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Nag sasawa na daw si St. Luke kay Pandak at ginagamit lagi siyang scapegoat kapag may ikakaso. Kaya pinag bilinan ni St. Luke na umalis na lang siya d2 sa atin.

  22. Jojo Jojo

    parasabayan #6. Nadale mo. Nasa likod mo kami. Saludo ako sa pananaw mo. Para makulong at hindi na maulit. Dapat kasama niya sa jail sila Bolante, Abalos, Ebdane at mga kasama niya sa kurakot. Kapag nakulong na palagay ko one week holiday ang Pinas.

  23. xman xman

    “So where did the P400 BILLION in intel funds of Noynoy in 2011 go? And how much of it has been left, for him and his Budget secretary to justify a P200 million increase in intel funds?”

    “Then too, Noynoy has his Presidential Social Fund (PSF), with the funds coming from the PCSO and the Pagcor which amounts to billions. Just what social projects has he used his PSF on? Thus far, even after over a year in office, Noynoy has not made public any of his expenses.”

    Source: See link above.

  24. Kahit magkano pa ang gastusin ng gobyerno para sa pagpagamot kay Gloria wala akong pakialam. Focus, people, focus! We started out wanting to see Gloria in jail we don’t stop until she is, do not be distracted now. The secret to success is constancy to purpose (readers digest).
    Xman halata na talaga kulay mo, si Gloria hinahabol namin ikaw iba ang puntirya, magkano ba talaga ha Koala Boy? 🙂
    Fix your eyes on the prize – do not be so easily distracted by theatrics!

  25. humus humus

    Sa tingin ko lang, lamang na lamang ang bayan sa isyung ayaw payagan si Gloria umalis dahil baka makatakas sa ating batas ang parusang naatas. Dahil dito sa mga peryodista at kolumnista naging maselan issue ito, sinumang pumanig kay Gloria maaring napakaraming tao ang magiisip na sila ay nabayaran lamang. Dahil tingin nila iyan ang kalakaran. Isipin lang na kung ang pagnanakaw ay ginawa sa kaban ng bayan lahat ng mamayan ay napagnakawan, lahat 95 milyon ay may ari at kabahagi sa kinulimbat ng mga magnanakaw. Matapang lang at tapat sa prinsipiong makatao ang hindi bayaran na papanig sa isyong pabor kay Gloria. Pero sa marami, Mahirap tanggapin OKAY maging makatao sa mga taong walang pagkatao.

  26. humus humus

    Baka naman ang tunay na dahilan sa mainit na isyung ito ay hindi tungkol sa batas ng Pilipinas kundi batas ng mga overseas banks. Pag walang personal appearance ang nagdeposito, Pag napaso’ sa batas ng banko ang mga idinipositong bilyon dolyares, baka makumpiska lang ng mga banko. Sayang din kahit kalahati gamiting pang lagay, meron pa ring malaking matitira para sa mga apo.

    Ang SSS at GSIS idadahilan, gagamitin ang mga banko para itigil ang pension kung ang mga pensionado (lalo na yung nasa abroad) hindi mapatunayan buhay pa sila. Laking abala, bakit hindi sila ang magpatunay na dapat itigil na. Baka tulad nito ang isyu ni Gloria.

  27. humus humus

    May kasabihan pag malaki ang pera huwag ilalagay
    sa isa lang bangko, baka magsarado, dapat ikalat. mas magaling kung seguro kung sa iba’t ibang bansa. Pero di sinabi medio mahirap pag kukunin at pagsasamahin ang lahat
    ng deposito, lalo na at meron kaso yung nagdeposito.

  28. humus humus

    “Preventing Arroyo to travel even without a pending case in court may seem okay to many because she is very much disliked. Many say it’s giving her a dose of her own medicine. But Escudero said, “What if they do it to you and me?””

    This is most pretty, even disgustingly beautiful but logically stupid:

    Why NOT and we MUST if Escudero and you will do what Gloria did to the Filipino people.

    Has Escudero and you (did he mean members of Congress?) have plans to do what Gloria did?

    Nangyayari na ito pero sa mga matinong tao na wala sa pwesto. Ang kalakaran or practice in the Bureau of Immigration is to deny (tens of hundreds?) those non-members of Congress and high officialdom their right to travel and work abroad for the flimsiest of reasons. Kailan lang kasama na rito ang Depts of Labor and Foreign Affairs. Escudero certainly is not posing his question to OFWs.

  29. Mike and Gloria reigned with impunity using legalistic means, now they seek to protect themselves the same way and so many people are seeing it their way.
    Of course lalambot ang puso ni Escudero dyan, ninang niya sa kasal yan eh, madaling magtapangtapangan sa salita talaga but when push comes to shove yung mga nagtapangtapangan wala na.
    Marami sa atin ganyan. Why don’t we just do what the Libyans did to Khadafi?

  30. Golberg Golberg

    Dapat yung “offering” ay offering lang at di dapat maging factor yung pera ng bayan. Makipagugnayan lang dun sa mga doktor ng mga “dupang na balahura” at anyayahan na magpunta dito yung mga doktor.
    Marami naman nakuha sa kaban ng bayan ang mga dupang na iyan, kayang kaya nilang bayaran yung mga doktor.
    Diba’t kumita si Mike dun sa mga chopper? Sobra pa siguro yun?! Huwag namang gamitin yung pera ng Pilipinas para sa mga doktor na papupuntahin dito.
    Kapag yun ang ginawa ni PNOY, iyan ang bait na wala sa lugar. Nagpapunta ng mga doktor dito mula sa ibang bansa pero pera ng mga mamamayan ang gagamitin pambayad sa kanila. Maling mali iyun.

  31. parasabayan parasabayan

    Approve ako dyan Jug! Do the Khadafi! Menos gastos pa! Or just do the Bin Laden! Mas menos gastos pa lalo! Isang helicopter lang at Navy Seals. Meron ba tayong mga magigiting dyan? Nasaan na yung mga motorcycle bandits?

  32. parasabayan parasabayan

    Humus, in one of my bank accounts na nakalimutan ko na dahil maliit lang ang laman, I got a notice saying that if I do not sign the paper they sent me, saying that I am still interested in the money, they will put the money in a pool. Wala na sa system nila. Kung baga, kaput na ang pera and one will have to go to the Treasury of the US to find it. Baka ito ang hinahabol ni pandak, fatso, and mga horsies nila at mga buwayang alipores nila!

  33. xman xman

    Si glo at big boy ay magnanakaw ng kaban ng bayan.

    Si engot ay magnanakaw din. Bilyon bilyon din kung magnakaw itong saint engot na to.

    Kaya pare pareho lang silang magnanakaw ng bilyon bilyon. Tama na yang pagmamalinis ng sinto sinto ninyong pek president.

    Sigurado kapag hindi na pek president itong si engot at mayroon imbestigasyon sa kanya ay ganon din ang gagawin nya, kunwari may sakit para di ma imbestigahan kaya gusto din nyan na lumabas ng Pinas. Sasabihin ni Saint Engot na kailangang lumabas sya ng Pinas dahil walang first class mental hospital ang Pinas….lol. Ano kaya ang sasabihin nitong mga diehard engots na to? Mag engotan na lang kayo kayo jan ika nga ng isang blogger dito.

  34. xman xman

    Saint Engot yong ninakaw mo na mga P400 BILLION intel funds ay yon ang gamitin mo na panggamot kay glo para di na lumabas ng Pinas.

  35. MPRivera MPRivera

    halimbawang “kinagat” ng kampo ni goyang ang offer ni PeNoy, aba’y panibagong suwerte na naman ng bruha at papahid pahid na lang ng nguso ang taong bayan. biruin n’yo ‘yung halaga na namang mababawas sa dapat na gagamitin sa mga pagawaing bayan o sa kagalingan ng mga mas nangangailangan? lalong hindi na matutunawan ng mga nilamon ang bruhang gloryang ang maliit lang ay ang sukat ng katawan pero masahol pa sa isang kawan ng mga buwaya ang sikmura na kahit anong dami ng ipalamon ay hindi magsasawa.

    saka ano’ng sinasabi pa ng iba dito na kung hindi gustong makaalis si gloria ay gastusan ng salaping galing sa kaban? bakit? lahat na lamang ba dapat mapasakanya?

    aba’y mas lalo ninyong gagawing hindi lang katawatawa ang mga kinawawa ng talipandas na ‘yan kundi ginagawa na rin ninyong tanga!

    at tayo ‘yun, lahat ng pilipino.

    kayo na lang, kung gusto ninyo!

  36. Mike Mike

    Matatanggap ko pa kung yagit ang mga Pidal. Di ako tututol na gamitin ang pera ng bayan para sya ay pagamutin. Pero naman, lintik sa yaman ang mga yan. Baka mas mayaman pa kay Bill Gates ang mga hinayu*** na yan. Wag na uy.

  37. Mike Mike

    Pero may duda ako sa offer ni PNoy, pakagat lang yang offer niyang gobyerno ang magaabono sa pagpagamot kay Gloria. Pag kinagat ni Goyang ang offer, sasabihin ni PNoy “sadali lang Glo, wala palang budget para sa pagpagamot sayo. I em shori” 😛

    Style talaga ni PNoy yung nagpapaasa pero babawiin bandang huli. Kagaya nalang yung isyu na pagpalibing kay Makoy at saka yung unang hirit niya na di siya tutol na magpagamot si Gloria sa ibang bansa. 😛

  38. Mike Mike

    “Why don’t we just do what the Libyans did to Khadafi?”

    Sorry not me, am not going to stoop that low just to satisfy myself to see them suffer like animals. I still believe in due process.

    If we are going to follow that argument, then the Maguindanao massacre victims should also take the law into their on hands and massacre anyone with a Ampatuan surname. Free for all kung baga, matirang matibay at bahala na si batman. Tsk, tsk! 😛

    I say bring Gloria et al to justice and hopefully (depending on the skill of of our prosecutors including De Singko) will be in jail before PNoy’s terms end. May they rot in jail.

  39. Mike Mike

    Baka matuwa pa si Gloria kapag tinodas niyo kaagad. At least, di niya mararanasan maghimas ng malamig na rehas at di sya mapiktyuran na nakakulong. Tapos na ang problema niya. 😛

    Dapat magdusa sila ng maraming taon o kaya’y habang buhay sa loob ng piitan.

  40. MPRivera MPRivera

    “….I am finished finding the cure here.I’ve tried everything. I have undergone three operations, had my neck opened three times, and these failed, and not one doctor has found the cure because they cannot say what is wrong with me, ” Arroyo said…………………..”

    sinungaling! sino’ng lolokohin mo pa uli?

    alam mong wala sa leeg ang problema mo KUNDI nasa UTAK at SIKMURA mo.

    nasa utak dahil wala kang iniisip kundi MANLOKO, MANDAYA, MANGGULANG at mag-isip kung paano paiikutin sa iyong maruruming palad ang mga taong pinagmumukhang TANGA ang mga sarili kapalit ng salapi upang ikaw ay pagtakpan at ipagsanggalang gayung maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw sa katanghaliang tapat na ISA KANG TALAMAK AT SINUNGALING NA GAHAMANG MAGNANAKAW!

    nasa sikmura mo ang dipirensiya sapagkat kahit ano’ng dami ng iyong NILAMON ay wala kang kabusugan patunay ang kasibaan mong IPINAGKAKANULO ng iyong mga kilos at iniisip na patuloy na panlalalamang sa mga taong pumapayag sa iyong mga kapritso.

    dahil ayaw ka rin namang payagan ng taong bayan upang umalis bunga na rin ng iyong mga kabalbalang pinaggagawa sa loob ng mahigit siyam na taon mong NAPAKARUMING pamamahala ay padadalhan ka namin ng isang rolyong lubid para gamitin mong pambigti sa iyong sarili upang matapos na ‘yang drama mo.

    nakakasawa na, eh.

  41. Mike Mike

    Maganda siguro isama siya sa selda ni ex-Mayor Sanchez. Baka may mabuong magandang relasyon sa kanilang dalawa. Si FG naman, isama kay Rolito Go para pagnagkapikunan.. Bang! Bang! 😛

    At kung nakulong nga ang magasawang Pidal, tiyak na matutuwa si Vicky T. Solong solo na niya ang mga perang nakulimbat nila FG na nasa pangalan niya. Masarap manirahan sa Canada, baka magkita at maging kaibigan pa niya si Dewey Dee. 😛

  42. Sa labang ito, hindi puso ang ginagamit, dapat utak.

    Ang saya-saya siguro sa kampo ni Arroyo ngayon. Napakadaling basahin ng kalaban nila. Napakapusong-mamon, hindi na nadala, nakasampung taon na ngang puro kasinungalingan at panloloko, gusto pa ring paniwalaan nung iba.

    Naman, sampung taon nilang pinaghandaan itong scenario na ito, unang arangkada pa lang watak-watak na agad ang taumbayan.

    Sabi nga ni Sun Tzu, “Do not interfere with the enemy while it is destroying itself”. Haay.

    Itong kanta ng Juan Dela Cruz, para sa inyo. Kung abot ninyo.

    BALONG MALALIM

    “Gusto niyang mag-swimming
    sa balong malalim.
    Di naman pupuwede sapagkat madilim.
    Ngunit kung may ilaw
    Akala mo’y langaw.”

    “Gusto pang kumain
    Kumain nang kumain,
    Di naman nabubusog
    Sa kanyang kinain.
    ‘di n’ya na naisip
    ‘yun ang hindi sa akin.”

    “Sige pa nang sige
    Kahit na dumudumi…
    Ang isipan ng tao
    O dito sa mundong ito
    Wala na bang remedyo
    Ang ating mga ulo?”

  43. From Inquirer:

    “[Dr. Leo] Olarte [Member of the Board of Governors of the Phil. Medical Association], an orthopedic surgeon who trained in Boston, Massachusetts, in the United States, said Arroyo’s spokesperson Horn erred when she said that “tetracycline bone biopsy” was a treatment procedure.

    “Tetracycline bone biopsy is not a treatment. It is done to determine the amount of growth [of the bone]. [Arroyo’s] X-ray showed that there was already bone formation,” he said.
    This only meant that Arroyo, now a representative of Pampanga, is “on the way to recovery,” and that the bone biopsy is no longer necessary, he added.

    Olarte, who is also a lawyer, cautioned the Arroyo camp against using medical grounds in its appeal for an allow-departure order for the lawmaker, “because these can be disputed.”

    Arroyo, of course, would not name the doctors who would perform the tests locally because they cannot find anyone who would play their game of lies to hide the real intent of their travel abroad – asylum, movement of laundered money, or what have you.

    The moment any doctor’s name is offered, the local medical professionals will have a field day assailing the choice. No amount of money could possibly convince a reputable doctor worth his salt to be subjected to such ridiculous situation. So they had to play the legalistic card using human rights as their issue.

    Arroyos complaining about human rights, are you effin’ kidding me?

  44. From Facebook by Move.ph:

    [EXCLUSIVE] Confirmed: Dominican Republic Diplomat Visited Manila October
    by Move.PH on Friday, November 11, 2011 at 3:15pm

    MANILA, Philippines – The ambassador of the Dominican Republic to Asian capitals arrived in Manila on Oct. 25, 2011 and stayed here for four days.

    Immigration data obtained by Move.PH show that Ambassador Frank Hans Castellanos Dannenberg indeed arrived in Manila via Tiger Airways at 11.56 am on Oct. 25, 2011. He left on Oct. 28 at 11.18 am. Immigration records indicate his latest departure from the country was on July 3, 2010, after President Benigno Aquino III took his oath.

    The 40-year-old ambassador is based in New Delhi. He is the Dominican Republic’s representative to the Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, India, and Mauritius.

    The immigration data confirm previous reports about a visit of a Dominican Republic diplomat to the country in late October.

    We learned that in late October, an informant told at least two government officials about “credible” information that Dannenberg was in Manila to help Mrs. Arroyo with her plan to seek asylum.

    This is the “tip” De Lima was referring to. If you have Facebook, you can see from this page pictures showing Amb. Dannenberg, GMA and George Litton, honorary consul of the Embassy of the Dominican Republic in the mansion in La Vista.

  45. MPRivera MPRivera

    Tongue, ‘yan kasing gelpren mong horny eh kung bakit pinagpipilitan ‘yung kanya sa pagtatanggol kay goyang. Wala na bang delikadesa ang babaeng ‘yan? Aba’y parang naengkanto sa sobrang pagkabulag sa tunay na kulay at pagkatao ng kanyang ninang, ah. Umaapaw na ‘ata ang kanyang bank account. Baka nga dahil hindi na mabilang ‘yung nakadeposito sa pangalan niya kaya ganyang parang tilong tilapya ang labas niya.

  46. duane duane

    To me being not a lawyer, due process to find the accused guilty is applicable only to the following cases were:

    1. The accused has a 50:50 chance and the case has to be deliberated in court and to be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt;

    2. The end justifies the means

    Sa kaso ni Khadafi, kung lilitisin man siya, kamatayan at bitay pa rin ang hatol sa kanya. Hindi naman papayag yung mga Libyano na habang buhay lang ang hatol sa kanya. Ano ang pagkaka-iba kung pinatay si Khadafi noon at papatayin siya pagkatapos ng paglilitis?

    Sa kaso ni gloria arroyo, lahat tayo dito sa ellenvile ay nagkakaisa na “may kasalanan” siya sa bayan. Hindi na dapat litisin pa dahil kitang-kita naman sa nakaraang 9 na taon yung mga kasalanan niya, pwera lang yung mga nagbubulag-bulagan at mga bulag-pipi-bingi.

    Hindi naman natin sinasabi na patayin siya tulad ni Khadafi. Maluwag nga tayo dahil gusto nating litisin siya at ikulong kahit na alam natin na si gloria ay “guilty beyond reasonable doubt”.

    Ang ayaw nang karamihan dito ay yung maka-alis siya ng bansa dahil sa tinatawag na “due process”. Due process – walang pwedeng pumigil sa kanya dahil wala pang kaso sinasampa laban sa kanya.

  47. vic vic

    GMA should listen to the sage advice of her former adversary, Erap the “friends of Mahirap” to Stay and Face the Music and Learn to Dance with It….he did and still enjoying a wonderful life with his many children from different mothers…

  48. Tedanz Tedanz

    November na gaya ng binanggit ng Pangulo niyong Pnot na kakasuhan na nila ang mga Arroyo’s. Mukhang wala yata. Kagaya rin ng sinabi ni Carpio-morales ng Ombudsman na bigyan din niya ng isang linggo ang bubuuin niyang grupo para aralin itong bentahan ng elikopter … nganga din …. puweeee!!!
    Kung wala kayong balak sampahan ng mga tangnang mga Arroyo itigil niyo na lang ang pagpapahirap sa kanila. Hayaan niyo na kung saan sila pupunta …. tama na … kayo na ang kontrabida. Kung ginago ng mga Arroyo ang sambayanang noy-pi … mas ginagago niyo pa sila. Puweeee akala niyo siguro kaaya-aya pa kayo … wala talagang kuwenta itong si Pnot na ibinoto niyo. Tawag sa kanya ….. sadista!!!!!

  49. chijap chijap

    #48 sana nga she would

    but remember, it was during GMA’s time who got ERAP in jail so she won’t take his advice.

    she will take her own advice [to ERAP then]: leave the country to avoid embarrassment or worst facing accountability.

    GMA knows she won’t get a Presidential Pardon just in case she did get convicted.

    History lang. You can see how GMA is following a pattern.

  50. Mike Mike

    #50

    chijap.

    She’ll definitely get convicted for all the cases that will be filed against her. But incase she didn’t, blame it on the prosecutors and De Singko.

  51. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    Ang labanan, kaso ki GMA vs Bayang Pilipinas, katulad ng Manny Pacman Vs Marquez !..Pag-nanalo si manny P..panalo ang bansang Pinas..pag-natalo siya, panalo si GMA ?..ibig sabihin mayroong “suspense-thrill ” sa bawat yugto ng kasong hinaharap..mawawala ang suspense-thrill at sa halip galit ng Bayan, kapag nagtagumapay ang TRO ng SC, na ikinanlong ni GMA bago niya ipina-ubaya ki Pang. Pnoy ang bansa..at lalo ng 10xxx magagalit ang bayan, sa kupad ng DOJ,OMbudsman sa pag-sampa ng kaso, ki GMA at ng kanyang galamay..damang-dama at kitang-kita ang mga mali nilang ginawa ki Juan de la Cruz, ngunit, “kupad-bulag-bingi-bungi’ itong mga nasa DOJ, at kina-uukulang mambabatas ?..siguro mayroong, “nangyayari” na naka-dududa, sa likod ng ka-de-le-mang, ito ?..” ..mga tumutubong haka-haka na di ma-iwasan ?…alam nila ang dapat na tamang gagawing proseso, ngunit, bakit ini-iwasan at di magawa ?…nagtatanong lahat po ?..

  52. florry florry

    If and when Gloria and co. are allowed, they will just go without even saying goodbye, left behind are the people, victims of their greed and can only say, we hate to say goodbye, we hate to see you go but what can we do, our leaders are so mga bobo, mga tanga at mga inutil. So pasensiya na lang, Na-“Noynoyed” kami.

    What is happening now was foreseeable, it’s almost a given considering that the whole government machinery is so inept, led by a spineless, incompetent, indecisive and puro daldal na leader. And that’s what we have to bear for the next few more years.

    But why did Noynoy made an offer to spend people’s money to treat the thief who stole the people’s money? Kulang pa ba yon at kailangang dagdagan pa? But that’s beside my point. My point is, why did it come to such a mess? It’s because this government is so confused, they are at a loss on what to do. They believed that because they are the government, they are the law and whatever they say they can enforce and they can just do whatever they please. They forgot that there is this thing we call the rule of law.

    Gloria has every right to refuse the offer of Noynoy, even if it means that she will not spend a penny for the treatment. That is also guaranteed by law. It’s very clear that her aim is to get out of the country and never come back until a friendly government is in placed. The puzzling thing is why Noynoy and co. continues to play a lousy game of poker where their bluffs are not taken seriously. Why don’t they just do what is right and in accordance with law to prevent Gloria and co. from saying Adios Pilipinas.

    Of course, Gloria and company will fight tooth and nail to get their wish and the last battleground is the SC. If we go by the trend, Noynoy’s score is almost 0, so the odds are stack against him.

  53. MPRivera MPRivera

    Hindi na rin nakakaduda itong asylum offer kay goyang ng Dominican Republic lalo’t minsan nang nanggaling doon ang reyna ng mga kawatan. At kung totoo nga ito, hindi ba puwedeng ireklamo sa International Court bilang tuwirang pakikialam sa political and legal proceedings ng Pilipinas?

    Hindi naman siguro lingid sa kaalaman ng Dominican officials ang nangyari noong administrasyon ng bruha at sobrang kapal naman ng sikmura nila na kukupkupin pa nila itong pamilyang nagpahirap sa buong sambayanang Pilipino.

    Naengkanto ba sila?

  54. parasabayan parasabayan

    Magno, countries who are in dire need of MONEY do not care if they are harbouring criminals.

  55. MPRivera MPRivera

    “Sa labang ito, hindi puso ang ginagamit, dapat utak….” – Tongue.

    utak naman talaga ang ginagamit ni PeNoy, ah.

    ‘yun nga lang dahil utak abaniko siya ay mas maraming palakpak ang nangyayari sa kanyang mga desisyon.

    para bang ‘yung batang pinitik ng kalaro ang tengang nagbabanta at nananakot na magsusumbong sa kanyang tatay kaya ang nangyayari bago magawa ang banta ay nakatakbo na ‘yung pinagbantaan o kaya’y nakakapag-isip pa ng dahilan upang makalusot sa kalokohan.

    wala kasing nasa utak kundi maglaro ng dyolens o kaya’y teks, eh.

  56. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Sabi ni Horn:

    Arroyo, who was diagnosed to have hypoparathyroidism, an extremely rare metabolic bone disorder, said she needed to undergo bone biopsy or her ailment would become “permanent in three months.”

    Manila Standard

    Sabi naman ng US National Library of Medicine

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001422/ (lagyan ng tatlong w)

    Hypoparathyroidism is is an endocrine disorder in which the parathyroid glands in the neck do not produce enough parathyroid hormone (PTH).

    Treatment

    The goal of treatment is to restore the calcium and mineral balance in the body.

    Treatment involves calcium carbonate and vitamin D supplements, which usually must be taken for life. Blood levels are measured regularly to make sure that the dose is correct. A high-calcium, low-phosphorous diet is recommended.

    Persons who have life-threatening attacks of low calcium levels or prolonged muscle contractions are given calcium through a vein (IV). Precautions are taken to prevent seizures or larynx spasms. The heart is monitored for abnormal rhythms until the person is stable. When the life-threatening attack has been controlled, treatment continues with medicine taken by mouth.

    Calcium and vitamin D supplements lang pala ang katapat.

    Magpa-araw lang yan ayos na. Yung calcium, munggo lang ang katapat niyan, or bok choy ang kinchay.

    Dahil sosyal, uminom ng gatas, or kumain ng keso for calcium. Baka naman gusto niyang sa Denmark pa siya kakain ng Danish Blue Cheese, sa Paris kakain ng Gruyere Cheese, at sa Amsterdam kakain ng Edam cheese (keso de bola).

    Ang reply ni De Lima diyan, magkesong puti ka na lang, dahil balat kalabaw ka naman sa tapang ng hiya mo.

    Talo ka pa rin De Lima. Sampahan mo kasi ng kaso.

    Nasaan na yung knight in shining armor, si Carpio-Morales? Siya ba ang Joan of Arc ni AbNoy? O trojan din?

  57. MPRivera MPRivera

    atitiway, eto na nga ‘yan, o. posts ko du’n sa kabila kung saan mahina daw ang ebidensiya laban sa ninang ng gelpren ni Tongue:

    MPRivera – October 29, 2011 3:19 pm

    wala na bang gagawin ang bruhang ‘yan at ang kanyang kampo kundi tayo ay patuloy na gaguhin?

    eto ang mga sagot sa sakit niya:

    http://health.yahoo.net/channel/hypoparathyroidism_treatments

    MPRivera – October 29, 2011 6:18 pm

    Tsk. tsk. tsk.

    Eto lang pala ang napakasimpleng lunas sa karamdaman ng pinakamamahal nilang buwiset na panggulo:

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/blogs/insights/10/29/11/only-cure-ex-president-gloria-macapagal-arroyo

  58. MPRivera MPRivera

    aba, bakit nagkaganu’n?

    bakit awaiting moderation ang comment ko sa itaas?

    why, why, why, o leila?

    why, why, why, de lima?

  59. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Baka may link ka Magno.

    Tanggalan mo ng mga w, tulad ng akin sa itaas.

  60. parasabayan parasabayan

    Tinunaw ng cognac ang buto niya!

  61. chijap chijap

    #52 mike

    Sino si De Singko? Why do people malign names just to prove a point?

    If you are referring to De Lima, some reasonable posters here pointed out that De Lima maybe a doubleagent.

    Possible because, ang bagal nga. But haste does makes waste.

    Keep in mind, we are not talking about a simple criminal. We are talking about GMA. One who has been obviously involved in high profile scandals (Sa ZTE pa lang, an admission of possible corruption explaining why the deal had to be stopped) pero may nahuli na ba?

    Magaling si GMA. She planned it all. She pays well. As history would show. Kaya i would not blame simply the prosecutors (let us indeed hope si De Lima is not a doubleagent) dahil tayo rin mga Pinoy we tolerate.

    Money talks well sa Pinas.

    But all is not lost. Di naman lahat ng sikreto natatago at lahat ng krimen di napaparusa. She will have her day.

    Kung ako lang, I would focus on Mikey. He seems to be the weakest link. No better punishment is to see your kids humiliated. Maski gaano ka kagaling, if your kids is found to be incompetent and put in prison, well that’s punishment enough.

  62. Tedanz Tedanz

    Kanya’t itong mga atorni at mga tagapagsalita ng mga Arroyo ay sagana sa kuwalta. Doon napupunta yong ibang kinurakot ng mag-asawa.
    Sa akin wala ng duda na itong si DeLima ay aso ng mga Arroyo. Magaling lang talagang umarte.

  63. MPRivera MPRivera

    Pacquiao beats Marquez, but even many Pinoys disagree

    http://www.gmanews.tv/pbr/article/238391/sports/pacquiao-beats-marquez-but-even-many-pinoys-disagree

    Other papers say it should have been Marquez or at least a draw!

    Pacquiao also knew it but instead said “It’s very clear that I won the fight.”

    This early, Pacquiao showed his TRUE character ALL because of MONEY! Is this the kind of HONEST person eyeing for the highest position in 2022 the people would choose to elect?

  64. Calcium carbonate lang pala. Very abundant yan kahit hindi sa botika.

    Dikdikin lang ng pino ang balat ng alimasag, hipon, tahong, kabibe, taklobo, etc. lahat yan calcium carbonate. Kung pasosyal siya, pwede na niyang ngatngatin yung chalk ni titser, calcium carbonate din yun. Parang sinemento lalamunan niya nun, hakhakhak!

    Pwede rin laklakin niya yung mumurahing detergent powder, puno yun ng chalk, baka pumuti pa ang maitim niyang budhi.

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