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Lessons from last week’s circus

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Justice Secretary Leila de Lima, looking satisfied in her evening press briefing in Malacanang last Friday after the warrant of arrest was served on Gloria Arroyo at the St. Luke’s Hospital, said the reason she put Arroyo in the Watch List Order was because they were still finalizing the electoral sabotage case, which became the basis for the warrant of arrest issued by Pasay RTC Judge Jesus Mupas.

The arrest warrant was in connection with the electoral sabotage suit filed by the Commission on Election which alleged that Arroyo ordered former Maguindanao Governor Andal Ampatuan Sr to make all the senatorial candidates of the administration’s Team Unity win in the 2007 elections.

Her inclusion of Arroyo in the WLO, as we all know by now, became a Hold Departure Order because based on it, airport authorities stopped Arroyo from leaving the country.

I need to re-learn the Constitution’s Bill of rights again. What De Lima was saying was it was okay for her to restrict anyone, using WLO, even if there’s no case pending in court, while she is preparing a case against that person.

That is new to me.

What happened last week in connection with Arroyo has been an eye opener for many of us.
Lawyer Ariel Salvador Hinal Magno wrote this in Facebook last Friday:

“What I learned this week………
1. Supreme Court can be ignored.
2. it’s not true that we have three co-equal branches of government. The Executive is the most powerful branch. It can do no one.
3. Congress……. is Congress. Res Ipsa Loquitor
4. The Bill of Rights applies only to the good ones not the evil ones.
5. Karma is so powerful.
6. If you did not do your job, blame others, especially the Supreme Court.
7. No matter how powerful you were or still are, you will be held accountable!
8. Institutions in the Philippines….wait what institutions?
9. The end justifies the means.
10. Some are more righteous than others. We are doing the same wrong things that you did but this time it’s us who are doing them, so tama lang.”

Another lawyer, who goes by the name “Saxnviolins” wrote in my blog what he learned from last week’s “circus”?

“There is the oft-repeated quote that ‘the law is a jealous mistress’. And this has been proven by the (last week’s) events.

“The other concubine here is the media. Those who were seduced by the flashier concubine failed to take care of the mistress, so the mistress dealt them a loss.

“First among them is the one-ball lawyer. He was required to file the power of attorney, empowering him to receive court processes (papers) for and in behalf of the Arroyos. But he was more interested in appearing before the media, to trumpet their victory, and even offered one of his gonads as guarantee that the Arroyos would be back.

“He forgot to file his compliance, however, so it provided basis for two justices to switch their votes, and not allow One-ball’s clients to leave, because they had not fully complied with the conditions of the TRO. He had three days to file the compliance, before the en banc session of Friday. But he was too busy basking in the attention of the other concubine.

“The other is the DOJ and the COMELEC. Preliminary investigations only require an affidavit from the complainant, and the counter-affidavit from the respondent. After that, a resolution could be made. But the DOJ wanted some action, and it held joint hearings with the COMELEC. That again was telegenic, but not according to law, for it is the COMELEC that is authorized to conduct the preliminary investigation. So the investigations were in danger of being annulled for following incorrect procedure, because some people wanted the limelight.

“Having discovered this viable line of defense, the Arroyo lawyers, including the Pig himself, went about talking to the media, about the infirmity. They could have kept it to themselves, and sprung it on the government after charges had been filed. This would have been basis for the preliminary investigation and the finding of probable cause to be invalidated by their lackeys at the Supreme Court, because the DOJ has no authority to conduct the investigation of an electoral offense.

“The basis for the nullification of the finding of probable cause would have been Raul Gon’s case as the former Tanodbayan, versus Governor Zaldivar.

“They got what they wanted – media attention. But the COMELEC was alerted, so it went solo, and found probable cause. That’s that for a viable defense and another TRO.

“So when one flirts with the other concubine (media), he gets what he wants – attention. But he loses focus, and the mistress, the law, exacts its vengeance and the swain is dealt a loss.

“A photo-op, a photo-op. My winning case for a photo-op.”

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  1. Atty. Theodore Te from Inday Varona’s FB page:

    I don’t disagree with the ‘big picture’ as Ding would suggest, although I would disagree that that would be the only ‘big picture.’

    It would be tragic if we were to throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak, that in the sudden “rush” to charge Gloria (the spadework for which should have been done the second after the president was proclaimed and the filing of charges done the second after he finished the last word of his oath, if I had my way), we would forget the ‘bigger picture’–the bill of rights applies in all situations, in every controversy, regardless of leaders, rulers, tyrants, kings or kingmakers of every stripe or hue.

    The dilution of the rights we are guaranteed will be irreparable and irremediable for so long as we keep tolerating short cuts created in order to fit political expediencies or worse justify incompetence or shortsightedness.

    As I said, I am all for jailing Gloria and certainly have no sympathy for her but I do remember how shortcuts and strong arm tactics twisted the constitution almost out of shape just so that Gloria could arrest Ka Bel, and the AFP and the DOJ could throw the likes of Ming Saladero in jail; how long ago was that? Not very long.

    And here we are, doing the very same things this president promised he wouldn’t do; being the very same things he promised he wouldn’t be.” Amen

  2. baycas2 baycas2

    last week ang supreme court ay nagmadali sa paglabas ng TRO laban sa WLO. nagmadali rin na ipatupad ito kahit di pa ayos ang mga kondisyones.

    Friday last week lang itinama iyon ng supreme court sa botong 7-6 na nagsasabing “inoperative” ang TRO bagama’t ito’y pinal at “executory”.

    last week marami ang nalito.

    nakalipas ang weekend para magmuni-muni ang lahat. kaya ang last week ay dapat limiin nang husto para maliwanagan sa hinaharap.

    predictions…

    this week lang natin malalaman na ang WLO ay illegal.

    this week lang natin malalaman na ang DOJ-Comelec panel preliminary investigation ay legal. (sana’y dumaan lang sa due process.)

    this week lang natin malalaman na ang jurisdiction ng RTC sa kaso ni gloria ay legal. (sana’y dumaan lang sa due process.)

    kaya’t mga abugado, kilos at magpakitang gilas…’wag lang palitan ng “G” ang “D” sa katagang “abugado”!

  3. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    At least, nagkaroon ng panibagong ” kabanata o pahina ” ang kasaysayang hustisya sa bansang Pilipinas, na ang TRO pala na galing sa kata-as-taasang Hukom, SC ay kayang harangin ng DOJ ( kailangan lang ay matatag-matapang, di katulad noong raulo, na tau-tauhan, at malabo-uli-anin ang mga desisyon ), at bandang huli, pwede ding mabaliktad, kapag nasilip ang katutuhanan (7-6 from 8-5 ). Sa aking pananaw dapat matimbrihan-“seal” na ang kasong ito, sa pamamagitan ng sunod-sunod na kaso, para malaman ng taong bayan, kung saan nga panig ang SC, sa pamamagitan ng maraming susunod na TRO’s, at malaman din ang mga tunay na maka-bayan, maka-tao at maka-Diyos na mga Pilipino, ” maka-pili pa ba ” sila ???..o tunay na nagmamahal sa bansang Pilipinas ???..Sa paraang ito, masusukat sila, at kung sakali man, dapat na maging mga future senators, kongressmen, at mga bagong lahi, at mukha, na siyang tunay na mag-papatakbo ng Pilipinas, para umusad na ng husto. Tapusin na ang mga maka-lumang politiko ( trapos ), nagiging sagabal sila sa kaunlaran, bagkos sangkot-kasanga sa mga kumunoy or “quicksand “, na takbuhin sa pamahalaan. Magkaroon tayo ng mga bagong mukha ( tulad ni Koko P. iba pa.), at bawasan ang “dynastic”-pami-pamilya” na nagpapatakbo ng bansa..Pag-aralan uli ang “death penalty” kung maaari, para mabawasan ang masasamang “damo” sa lipunan…Isang pananaw sa kinabukasan, ni Juan de la Cruz..

  4. baycas2 baycas2

    ito ang malungkot na prediction:

    this week malalaman nating unconstitutional pala ang SECTION 43 AMENDMENT ng RA 9369.

    huhuhu.

    hala, magsampa uli ng iba pang mga kaso…

  5. parasabayan parasabayan

    Ayan, approved na ang hospital arrest ni pandak. Pwede na niyang gawing headquarters ulit yung hospital. Hindi yan lalabas ng St Loots dahil ayaw niyang mapunta sa dapat niyang detention.

  6. parasabayan parasabayan

    Baycas, ano ang nakasaad sa Section 43 Amendment ng RA 9369.

  7. parasabayan parasabayan

    I look at this pandak versus Pnoy case as a “draw”. Pabilisan lang ng paghugot ng baril. Yung unang nagpaputok ang panalo. Kung hindi pinigilan ni de LIma nag trip ni pandak, wala ng pagasang mananagot si pandak sa mga kasalanan niya sa kapinoyan. We have an imperfect justice system but I agree that we should look at the “big picture” at all times.

    De lima has knowledge of the looming 2007 Electoral sabotage case coz they were working on it for quite a while. In her mind, she had to do something to stop pandak from leaving.

  8. Mike Mike

    That’s what I’ve been saying, the law applies to all even to a bitch.

  9. acibig acibig

    dapat kasi eh, payagan si Glo to go to UNITED STATES only, where we have extradition, and allow only one family member to go with her, OBVIOUSLY UNited States offers the BEST option for any medical problems, dont know why they always mention Singapore, eh unheard nga yan sa medical filed, yung doctor ng PMA grabe ang pag ka hello ha, expert daw sya pero never done a bone biopsy, PEOPLE, Philippines is a 3rd world country , ergo bone biopsy is not available, Blood test nga kulang kulang na, bone biopsy pa

  10. acibig acibig

    dapat kasi eh, payagan si Glo to go to UNITED STATES only, where we have extradition, and allow only one family member to go with her, OBVIOUSLY UNited States offers the BEST option for any medical problems, dont know why they always mention Singapore, eh unheard nga yan sa medical filed, yung doctor ng PMA grabe ang pag ka hello ha, expert daw sya pero never done a bone biopsy, PEOPLE, Philippines is a 3rd world country , ergo bone biopsy is not available, Blood test nga kulang kulang na, bone biopsy pa

  11. parasabayan parasabayan

    Damn if you do , damn if you don’t. Ano ba talaga?

  12. Mike Mike

    #1:

    Couldn’t agree more to what Atty. Te said. He said it very clearly!

  13. henry90 henry90

    Sus. Magtaka pa kayo sa mga abogado. Di ba kayo naguguluhan? Iisa lang naman ang batas na pinagbabasehan pero lahat ng abogado may sariling interpretasyon. Pucha. Bakit di gawing malinaw para walang duda? Sarap maging abogado ano? Kaya maraming gusto maging SC justice. Pati mga hinayupak may kanya-kanya pa ring opinion. Anak ng tipaklong! Kaya pala di maawat si Glue na ihabol ang midnight appointment ni Carpio. Tsk!

  14. this is Arroyo’s legacy to the country even after she has already left office–a partisan Supreme Court with a toady for a chief justice appointed on ARroyo’s last days in office.

  15. chijap chijap

    I do not agree a few of the observations.

    There are still three equal branches. Mas active lang yung Executive dahil they have the weight of the world on getting Arroyo.

    The Supreme Court has made decisions in the past that the Executive had the option to ignore but did not (ie protest CJ Corona’s appointment and Executive Order #1).

    The end does not justify the means. Its a matter of understanding the spirit of the law.

    I am not understanding why people are now shouting “shortcuts” “violation of the law” “railroad” “minadali” when a few days ago people were complaining “ang bagal”

    Isa lang talaga napansin ko biling Pinoy: ang Pinoy laging may comment. Pero when it comes to acting on it, nanood lang.

  16. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    I did not agree with the watchlist, because it is not a substitute for a filed case. I don’t agree with the executive power to curtail travel freedom, especially on OFWs.

    But if the shortcut adverted to is the filing of the case, and Judge Mupas’ finding of probable cause, the assertion is factually misplaced.

    Do you know how many cases grand juries in Brooklyn (Kings County) hear? Seven a day. That is seven cases requiring presentation of probable cause evidence by the prosecutor, and a vote by 23 laymen, inexperienced in the law. So basic common sense lang, since probable cause is nothing but a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed. Yes, belief lang. Proof is made in the trial. Mukha bang may crimen? If yes, then ihabla mo.

    So yung four hours by an experienced judge is more than enough. There was no shortcut. The action was long overdue, by too many limelight seeking papansins, who want the media to interview them, or quote them.

    Bakit matagal ang resolution sa atin? Dahil tamad, or worse, naghihintay ng suhol, or the highest bidder.

  17. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    By the way the grand jury is the body that determines probable cause. they only decide kung maghahabla or not. It is the trial jury which determines guilt. 23 ang grand jury, 12 ang trial jury. What is returned by the grand jury is an indictment, or information sa atin.

  18. Mike Mike

    #16

    SNV,

    It’s up to the judge’s discretion to decide on the probable cause. He doesn’t even have to explain coz eventually both sides will be heard.

  19. parasabayan parasabayan

    Ang kaso dito sa US eh may projected duration. When one is picked as one of the jurors, sasabihan kung gaano katagal lilitisin ang kaso. Sa Pinas, super tagal ang kaso. Tama si Sax, kasi lahat ng partido, yung witness, lawyer, judge ay nasusuhulan. Yung mas malaki ang bayad, yun ang umuusad ang kaso. Itong kay pandak, kaya madali ang takbo kasi ito ang pangako ni Pnoy sa bayan. Ito naman si pandak, minamadali din ang lahat kasi gusto maka-eskapo.

    Ang pinakamatagal lang dito sa US ay yung scheduling ng hearing. Kapag umusad na, mabilis na ang mga hearings hanggang matapos ang kaso.

  20. Re 16, SNV. I’m with you on this. I do not question Mupas even if I believe he was highly influenced by Malacanang in issuing the warrant of arrest (in the same way that the judge who found probable cause in the libel cases filed by Mike Arroyo against us 47 journalists were following the wishes of the Arroyos).

    What I have been questioning is De Lima’s restricting movement/travel of a citizen (in this case Arroyo).

    I’m not a lawyer ang isa lang ang pinanghahawakan ko: Bill of Rights which guarantees the right of any person to travel under conditions cited there which didn’t apply to Arroyo at that time.

    There was no case pending in court at the time De Lima put Arroyo in the Watch List Order and the WLO is not a Hold Departure Order.

    Pambabastos talaga ng batas. If De Lima and for that matter this government can do that to Arroyo, they can do it to anybody whom they don’t like.

  21. Sure, binastos ni Arroyo ang batas. kaya nga siya hated eh. kaya nga Aquino won because he promised reforms. Ayusin ang patakbo ng pamahalaaan. Sundin ang batas.

    Doing an Arroyo din pala.

  22. baycas2 baycas2

    ang RA 9369 (2007) ang nag-amiyenda sa RA 8436 (1997). ‘yan ang Poll Automation Law na nag-amiyenda sa BP 881, ang Omnibus Election Code.

    binago ng Sec. 43 ng RA 9369 ang Sec. 265 ng BP 881 na ukol sa kung paano ang “Prosecution” ng electoral offense gaya ng Electoral Sabotage (nakapaloob din ito sa RA 9369).

    psb, sabi sa Sec. 43 ng RA 9369 puedeng mag-preliminary investigation “CONCURRENTLY” ang Comelec at “prosecuting arm” ng gobyerno (gaya ng DOJ).

    ‘yan daw ang sinunod nila Brillantes, kaya may Comelec-DOJ panel. pero ang nagbotohan naman ng “probable cause” ay Comelec na lang sa iskor na 5-2.

    constitutional ba o hindi? ang Kataastaasang, Kagalang-galangang Korte ang sasagot.

    abangan…

    in the meantime, detention muna para kay gloria.

  23. Tedanz Tedanz

    Kung hinayaan na lang kaya ang mga Arroyo ang Gobyernong ito na makalayas sa inyong bansa …. ano naman kaya ang mga topics sa mga pahayagan at dito sa ellenville?
    Ang mga pinoy nga naman ….. kaya hindi umaangat ang pamumuhay diyan sa inyo dahil marami masyadong … ah ewan. 🙁

    Medyo elib na ako talaga dito sa gobyernong Pnot … yan naman kasi ang ina-asahan ng marami at isa na ako dito.

  24. Tedanz Tedanz

    Kaawaan ba natin itong si Glorya? Isipin niyo na lang yong mga taong pinaligpit dahil lang sa pagbubulgar sa mga kabuhungan ng dating pekeng pamahalaan ni Glorya. Yong muntik-muntikan na pag-salvage sana nila kay Gng. Lozano …. dapat i-firing squad pa nga itong mag-asawa.
    Kaawaan ba natin????????? Alam ko na naman ang sagot ng marami at eto …. kung ang Panginoon nga ay nagpatawad tayo pa kaya …. kaya hindi nawawala ang mga masasama eh. Puweeeee!!!!

  25. Al Al

    I do not sympathize with Gloria Arroyo. I sympathize with the Filipino people. The basic laws of the land are being perverted to justify the incompetence of the powers that be.

    And we were made to believe that the Aquino government would be the opposite of Arroyo in respecting, and not perverting, the law.

  26. chijap chijap

    If people felt that DC41 is truly a violation, why does it take a GMA to call it unconstitutional? (Funny Irony is that her admin made that DC41 up and made that assertion that it is unconstitutional because it was used against her).

    I say those who oppose this DC41 should file a case with the courts to make this unconstitutional.

    I think the court also was suppose to review the TRO this week not unless they consider it moot. So i say people who wish to get this issue taken off their scare list should watch this closely.

    I think there are more pressure from media and the people than from (assuming there was) the admin that Mupas as to face. I think Mupas thought more of how the people will react if he simply sat on the issue. Sya yung hahawak ng short end of the stick in case he did not handle this issue quickly and in a positive (abeit popular) resolution, that day.

  27. Mike Mike

    #26

    chijap,

    The SC will actually rule on several petitions filed by the Pidal couple tomorrow including DC41. Thats what I heard in the news earlier.

  28. Chjap, hindi kasi masyadong napansin yung DC41 sa dami ng issues at problema. There was no occasion to challenge its legality, in the way De Lima used it, until Gloria Arroyo’s case.

  29. Tedanz Tedanz

    At tandaan niyo … lahat na inaakyat ng mga Arroyo sa SC ay ayon sa kanilang kagustuhan. At eto pa yong mga justices na itinalaga ni Arroyo ay wala silang ini-isip kundi ang kapakanan ng kanilang reyna at hindi sa pangkalahatan ….. mali man o tama.

  30. Tedanz Tedanz

    Dehins ba puwede na gamitin ang mali para itama ang tama???? 🙂 🙂 🙂

  31. Tedanz Tedanz

    Hindi niyo puwedeng ikumpara ang maling ginawa ni Arroyo sa ating Batas dahil sa ginawa niya iyon para itama ang mga pinaggagawa nilang mga kamalian …… at kung mali man ang akala niyong ginagawa ngayon nila Pnot & Co. …. yan ay para itama ang tama 🙁 🙁 🙁 Gulo no?

  32. ocayvalle ocayvalle

    si GMA parang henyong pinoy ng eat bulaga, ang hula niya ay TRO, kaso napabalik, kasi ang tamang sagot pala ay
    ” yagbols ” sayang sumablay siya..!! hahaha,,joke lang po,
    sobrang tuwa kasi, sana lahat ng kaso niya lumabas na pati kay FG, iyong helicopter scam sa PNP.. kasi nasampa na iyon..

  33. duane duane

    @Ellen: This is not to confront but to express my thought.

    Sure, binastos ni Arroyo ang batas. – Ellen

    At sa huling pagkakataon, babastusin uli ang Sistema at gagamitin ang batas sa pambabastos? Kaya nga naglakas loob si gma na lalabas sana ng bansa dahil wala pa siyang kaso sa korte, PERO ALAM NIYA na may inaayos nang kaso laban sa kanya!

    It is my belief that it is a misplaced argument re: “this government can do that to Arroyo, they can do it to anybody whom they don’t like”. Ordinary mortals wouldn’t have to worry on this because, how would an ordinary mortal be involved if he is clean and innocent? Yung mga may sinasabi sa buhay ang dapat matakot dahil MERON silang ginawang dapat ikatakot.

    Yet, they are “high and mighty”. There are laws that are not applicable to them but applied in full force to an ordinary person.

    We want to stop the application of “double standard” especially in law. But we want the “double standard” to be applied to its implementors so that it can be cut from the bud.

    It is like “going to war to achieve peace”.

  34. Mike Mike

    #30

    Tedanz,

    Sana nga pwede, kaso may umiiral na batas na dapat nating sundan. Kung di tayo sumunod ngayon (laban kay Gloria), ano ang kasiguruhan na hindi ito magagamit sa ibang tao, sa atin at sa ating mga mahal sa buhay. Sa tindi ng kasalanan ni Gloria laban sa sambayanang Pilipino, di nakakapagtaka na karamihan, lalo na sa kanyang mga biktima ay nais na gawin ang lahat (legal man o illegal) upang ipaghiganti sa kanyang mga kasalanan.
    Makapghiganti man tayo ngayon sa pamamaraang di nakasaad sa batas at sa konstitusyon, ito ay magiging daan para gamitin ng mga magiging pinuno o presidente sa darating na panahon para ito’y abusuhin tulad ng ginawa ni Gloria sa kanyang panunungkulan noong siya’y (pekeng) presidente pa.

  35. Mike Mike

    #33:

    duane,

    We are not in a war situation. In fact, we just elected a president not so long ago in a fair and somewhat peaceful election. People rejected the remnants of the most hated regime of Arroyo in the national polls hoping that President Aquino will undo the wrongs, the excesses and anything that is illegal that the Arroyo government did during her term. If we are to continue the “wrongs” that was done in the past just to get back at Arroyo, then we are no different from the evil regime that we hated so much.

  36. QED QED

    Gloria Arroyo’s mug shots:

    [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IGgMM.jpg[/IMG]

  37. Tedanz Tedanz

    Para wala ng problema … paalisin na lang si Glorya …. ganun lang kasimple. Tapos …

  38. Tedanz Tedanz

    Kung ganun tama pala si Glorya na paalisin na lang si Erap noon para wala na siyang problema. 🙂 🙂 🙂
    Galing talaga ni Glorya ….. sabi ko na nga ba na engot si Pnot ….. puweee!!!!

  39. Mike Mike

    Tedanz,

    Bagamat pinahintulutan ng SC ang paglakbay ni Gloria sa ibang bansa sa pamamagitan ng TRO, hindi ibig sabihin na hindi na siya pwedeng pigilan pa sa kanyang paglakbay. May ibang paraan na nag aalinsunod sa batas at ito’y ang pagsampa ng kaso laban sa kanya. Ito dapat sana ang paraan at hindi yung DC41. Kung isinampa nila ng mas maaga ang kaso, di sana aabot dun sa nangyaring kaguluhan sa NAIA nuong isang linggo.

  40. duane duane

    Considering the factual scenarios, we are left with only two choices, as there are no ifs and buts left in-between:

    1. We will follow one (1) particular section in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution but gloria arroyo is free and out-of-reach of Philippine justice system.

    2. We believe that gloria arroyo is guilty of crimes and to be tried in accordance with the Constitution but in capturing her, we will disregard one particular (1) Section of the Constitution.

    Take your pick. I’d pick No. 2.

  41. Mike Mike

    #40

    Obviously, Gloria is guilty as hell. Preventing her to leave (escape) should be done according to law and there are ways. File a criminal case (which they already did) against her and let the judge order the HDO and not use the DC41 which IMO is unconstitutional. DC41 is a creation of Gloria and her justice secretary.

  42. Mike Mike

    The government cannot use as an excuse that the reason for the delay in filing of charges against Gloria is that they still need time to collect evidences so as to have an airtight case. With so many congressional hearings from lower house and the senate, they could’ve coordinated with them and request for the voluminous docs and the witnesses who testified.

  43. chijap chijap

    @Ellen, Mike, i understand your points. But i still see it differently. (Ain’t it a beauty that we are discussing this openly without fear of being arrested? Imagine in certain nations, end of discussion na yun. This exercise is what makes Democracy great and funny).

    @duane, agree.

    #41, Mike, but in so far as De Lima and the state is concern right up to this week, WLO and with the DC41 attached, it was within the boundaries of the law that she was required to remain in the country. Remember, the SC has not decided it was illegal.

    The SC just said, wait time out muna. Yung problem is yung time out. The SC said, sige palayain sya. De Lima said, and if she does not come back?

    Yes, it appears like “bakit, eh gusto ko umalis” but you see De Lima and the government was sincere; they ask for locations and other question and they have pointed out GMA was not being honest. GMA, we can all agree wasn’t straightforward with everything. In short may tinatago.

    And knowing more how the COMELEC came about with the decision (timing was “rushed” este Prioritized) but they were indeed taking these baby (baka waiting for suhol) steps. GMA was simply knew when to leave. and last week, it was time. But she missed the boat.

    Don’t get me wrong. I have seen abuses both by Big Brother and by the citizenry. Tama, we follow the basic rule: customer is always right. But when customer is not telling the truth and abusive? Do we not give Big Brother the right to flex his muscle? Vice-versa too.

    Relationships yan, give and take. Just my two cents.

  44. Tedanz Tedanz

    Eto ang sabi ni Santiago … “So if the Comelec decides to go into a joint partnership with the DOJ in the trial and prosecution of electoral cases, that is well within its mandate,”.
    Tapos ang agam-agam …. pupuwede rin pala …. o di ba Mike? Wala na talagang kawala itong si Glorya.

  45. xman xman

    RP means REPUBLIC of the Philippines

    What is the difference between Democracy and Constitutional Republic?

    “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” Thomas Jefferson

    “Unlike a pure democracy, in a constitutional republic, citizens are not governed by the majority of the people but by the rule of law.Constitutional Republics are a deliberate attempt to hold in check the threat of mobocracy thereby protecting dissenting individuals from the tyranny of the majority by placing checks on the power of the majority of the population.” Ron Paul, presidential candidate 2012

    “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” Benjamin Franklin
    (In a democracy, the lamb will be eaten alive by the two wolves. Now in a constitutional republic, the lamb has a gun to protect itself from being eaten by those wolves as their lunch…..the joke made by Franklin)

  46. bayonic bayonic

    what this naive and sentimental layman learned so far from this ongoing circus :

    – The rule of law states that individuals, persons and government shall submit to, obey and be regulated by law, and not arbitrary action by an individual or a group of individuals … and yet the law is very much subject to interpretation and if there are differences in the interpretation , it all boils down to a decision by an individual or a group of individuals.

    – The law , like truth , is a function of time.

    – The Constitution is like the Bible. Both are subject to interpretation and both are often quoted by people to support their viewpoints.

  47. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    In the case of De Lima’s and the Noynoy’s moves, I am not sure if it is legal or illegal because I am not a lawyer.

    But from my layman’s understanding, they are there at the edge of legality and illegality. The details of the law are too cumbersome for my non-legal mind to decipher. It is only the lawyers who can more easily judge their actions. But then again, lawyers have different opinions all the time.

    Anyway, my point is this. Should the SC fail to do its bounden duty to the people and continues to very obviously work for the interest of one person or a group of persons and against the public good, and the two other branches fail to check the SC, the people are justified to take action against them just like in EDSA 1.

    I am thankful that the Executive Branch is now fighting judicial impunity in our behalf.

    I hope that should it ever come to the point that there is a need to file impeachment complaints against some justices, the Legislative Branch will also do their duty and stand up for the people.

  48. Mike Mike

    #46

    That is why we need the SC to interpret the law. We may not like their interpretation of the law but we still need to follow it less we become a chaotic country ala wild wild west. Matirang matibay, patay kung patay.

    Dura Lex Sed Lex (the law may be harsh, but it is the law).

  49. Mike Mike

    #47

    Impeachment is always an option. It’s within the bounds of the law.

  50. chijap chijap

    But has the SC interpreted the law just yet?

  51. chijap chijap

    #49, but Impeachment is a numbers game, which bring back us to xman’s Democracy’s anecdotes. 🙂

    There are more sheeps right now versus the pack of wolves which include the husband and his wife and their loyal followers.

  52. chijap chijap

    @xman, let me also add since you mention Ron Paul, that the US democratic process goes even further.

    Them choosing a President is pretty much (in my simply man’s understanding) a ratio aka the Electoral College. It provides small states with fewer population to really have a say on the election.

    I think that is a great way of making sure that say people of Luzon does not get to pick the President because of sheer number of population it has over Visayas and Mindanao.

  53. The SC should charge Gloria with contempt, she wasn’t exactly forthcoming to begin with, nagsinungaling na siya sa petition pa lang niya, di ba insulto yan?
    So we let her go even if she hasn’t complied with requirements? Just on Midas’ say so? Teka teka, anong rule of law to?
    If ordinary people can rot in jail due to technicalities why not the big fish? Akala ko ba justice is blind?
    Gloria has shown us how dangerous it is to have an SC coopted by politics, you can replace a genuinely elected president and protect a bogus one – because whatever the SC says is the law and we should follow the rule of law. Never mind if harap harapan niloloko ang SC.
    Did Trillanes, Querubin, etc, get out of jail immediately because someone announced it? Or did they have to go through the process, filled some paperwork, etc?
    Reminds me of monopoly, Gloria here has something up here sleeve, an indefinite supply of “get out of jail free” cards.

  54. xman xman

    @chijap, I think you got it in reverse.

    The number of electoral college assigned to a state depends on the number of population they have and not the size of their land area.

    For example, Alaska has a fewer number of population hence their electoral college (votes) is lesser compare to more populous states like New York or California.

    That should answer your question about Luzviminda.

  55. xman xman

    What we have here is not democracy but Ingotcracy and yellowcracy.

  56. xman xman

    Noynoy hiding under a desk when under pressure……hahahha

    No wonder he was no show during Luneta massacre. More recently, during the ASEAN meeting. Could not handle a debate or a backroom maneuvering with “normal” officials of other countries. He cancelled two of those meetings. He should bring VP Binay to handle arguments with those “normal” people of other countries.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHB56A1X6A8&feature=related

  57. parasabayan parasabayan

    May kilala akong autistic child na mas magaling pa sa normal na bata. So, do not make fun of these special children. Some of them are just different. It does not mean lahat sila eh may diperensia sa ulo. Some are actually very gifted.

  58. chijap chijap

    @xman, i think you should read more:

    I said, “a ratio aka the Electoral College.” and “It provides small states with fewer population to really have a say on the election.”

  59. perl perl

    #39 Mike,
    May ibang paraan na nag aalinsunod sa batas at ito’y ang pagsampa ng kaso laban sa kanya. Ito dapat sana ang paraan at hindi yung DC41. Kung isinampa nila ng mas maaga ang kaso, di sana aabot dun sa nangyaring kaguluhan sa NAIA nuong isang linggo.
    sabi nga nung nagpost sa nkaaraang thread, kugn sa ika-100 araw ni Pnoy, sasampahan ng kaso si Gloria sa korte, malamang ika-95 days pa lang… nagtangka ng umalis si Gloria at maaga nating nakita yang nangyari sa NAIA

  60. hilman hilman

    korek ka dyan psb … kumusta na nga pala si topac-io este topasyon o whatever ….

  61. Mike Mike

    #50

    That is why I said IMO (in my honest opinion), but I hope I’m proven wrong for the benefit of De Lima. 😉

  62. Mike Mike

    #51

    Isn’t it democracy is a numbers game? When we vote, the one who gets the most number of votes wins. We may not like it but it’s enshrined in the constitution. It really boils down to us voters who we ellect into office. Unfortunately, some voters think that an ellection is a popularity contest. 🙁

  63. I really resent this constant mention of “special child” its not only irrelevant its without taste. I have a “special uncle” and believe me its not contagious.

  64. Mike Mike

    #66

    Jug,

    I agree. That’s foul talaga.

  65. Mike Mike

    I also have a nephew who has down syndrome and it is utterly unfair to make fun of their conditions. Bad taste indeed.

  66. zend zend

    Mahirap sagutin kung legal or illegal nga ang ginawa ni delima even the justices will argue on this for sure, sa mga ordinaryong taong tulad ko ayoko ng pag aksayahan ng isip ang mga technicality sa batas, para na lang yan sa mga sobrang matatalino…ang sa akin lang, malinaw na ginamit nga ni delima at ng executive ang kapangyarihan para makuha ang gusto nila which is di makaalis si gloria,di maitatatwa yan, pero ang sabihin na dahil dito wala ng pinagkaiba ang nakaraan at kasalukuyang administrasyon ay mali naman ata… Kung si impakta ba gumamit ng kapangyarihan para umabuso at manakit ng tao tapos ginamitan naman ni Darna ng kapangyarihan para mahuli at makulong ibig sabihin wala ng pinagkaiba si darna sa impakta? I know we are not living in the world of fantasies and super heroes, pero di ba, bata pa lang tayo alam na natin yan, hindi porket ginamit mo kapangyarihan mo e abusado ka na… Madaling sabihin na sana dinaan na lang sa tamang proseso lahat…. haay iyan ang pangarap dahil sa ngayun alam din natin na di mangyayari yan dahil bago bumaba sa pwesto si gloria sinigurado nya na nasa pwesto ang mga kampon nya para proteksyunan sya. So ano ang magagawa natin, aasa na makokonsensya yung mga nasa pwesto at paiiralin ang tamang hustisya…May pagkukulang nga ang gobyerno kasi di agad nakapag file ng kaso pero mas malaki naman kalokohan na ng issue agad ng TRO samantalang di pa nga nakakapag argumento.

    Ang kapangyarihan binigay sa mga kinauukulan hindi lang para pangalagaan ang kapayapaan at karapatan ng bawat mamamayan kundi para ipaglaban at siguraduhin ang katarungan… Mas magagalit ang tao kung wala man lang nagawa ang mga taong niluklok nila sa kapangyarihan upang mapigilan ang pagtakas ng isang taong halos sampung taong umabuso at lumapastangan sa kanyang bayan.

  67. QED QED

    #46
    “- The law , like truth , is a function of time.”

    function of time… AND power

  68. Xman, I deleted your two comments. Let’s maintain civility in our language. Also, let’s stick to the topic.

  69. parasabayan parasabayan

    Sigurado ka ba Xman na hindi ikaw ang sinto sinto? You are so off topic. Halatang halata na inililihis mo ang usapan dito.

  70. parasabayan parasabayan

    Sa wakas, sumangayon din ang SC sa gusto ng mga tao at gobierno, denied ang TRO na gusto ni fatso at Abalos, tungkol sa joint DOJ-Comelec panel. Halatang halata naman ang SC na may kinikilingan kung nag-issue sila ng TRO pabor kay fatso. But I do not understand why all those under the watchlist of DOJ eh na-lift ang TRO to travel. Hmmm.

  71. from the moment aquino assumed office, he had to deal with a slew of midnight appointments by arroyo, most notably the midnight appointment of the chief justice.

  72. and which group decided whether the midnight appointments were legal or not–the SUPREME COURT!

  73. parasabayan parasabayan

    It is a common knowledge that fatso was pandak’s operator. While pandak is going to languish in jail, fatso is free to roam around. What an inequity!

  74. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Naughty thoughts in my head. Gloria arrested. Can’t travel. Mike however is allowed to travel. Same with the little Mike. Same with the others.

    Bakit kaya? Hmmmm….

  75. Gloria (or Mike) plays to win, we just need to look at the way she got rid of Erap, she stripped him of the military support via Reyes, the senate, got the catholic church, civil society, the radical left, big business and more importantly the supreme court to rubberstamp her legitimacy. Everybody knows that whatever the SC says, its the law, so she became president by virtue of the rule of law. She even held on to power inspite of so many scandals via the rule of law, if its not law yet, she makes one.
    Now, by virtue of the rule of law (SC), she still is a force of nature. Hubby Mike and son Mikee will be free to clean up loose ends abroad anticipating investigations, pustahan tayo after their trips, subsequent investigations will have no trail to follow. They will have moved their money (our money) to a safer hiding place and all properties in question will have changed hands already.
    The AFP was shook up with the pabaon generals, Garcia, Ligot, Reyes, etc, the catholic church was shook up with the suv bishops, maybe its time to shake up the supreme court?

  76. I wonder why Gloria, in her condition and stature didn’t use the VIP route in the airport, any security agency can arrange this, she could have avoided the hassle, no crowds, no pesky paparacci, she could be in and out in no time? She takes a very serious trip and no one cared to organize ingress/egress? This is so not the Gloria we’re used to, what happened?

  77. jug, obvious naman she was fishing for sympathy. She was the freakshow’s main attraction in that media circus. Tell me, when did Gloria travel sans her sparkling jewelry, her designer garb, and a huge coterie of bootlickers out to get a free trip in exchange for, what, carrying $millions across the US border? They do that via the express route.

    Last week, NAIA’s GM confirmed they were allowed in fact to use the VIP privileges when they asked for special accommodations for her and her 20-plus entourage, but here come the spouses via the Main entrance, the masa-inspired General Admission, where the network cameras and platoon of reporters of all forms were waiting. Gloria’s hair all messy and greasy, ditto her makeup made probably of margarine to better glow when it melts under spotlight heat, hahaha.

    She is an effin’ fake!

  78. bayonic bayonic

    #83 . naka heels naman ….. really baaaadddd to the bones.

  79. and which group decided whether the midnight appointments were legal or not–the SUPREME COURT! – johnmarzan

    Oh, yeah. The same court that said the impeachment against one of their own, Hilarious Davide, was illegal.

    The same court that swore in Gloria Arroyo as president when the presidency wasn’t even vacant – in violation of the constitution. Damaged goods are produced by faulty machinery.

    Now we want to follow their version of the constitution and rule of law?

    Excuse me, I am not fluent in stupid.

  80. ocayvalle ocayvalle

    mam ellen, sino po kaya iyong bumoto ng 10 – 4 sa sc against sa TRO, sigurado ako sa 4 andun nanaman si corona..

  81. Look at the self-indulgent, self-ordained intelligentsia. Again! They believe they know better than what common people in the street want.

    Surveys from all over the social classes are one in saying something like “The time for dilly-dally is up. Payback is here, don’t interfere.” The mood is jubilant yet vigilant. Observant but supportive.

    The self-righteous elite cannot fit into this, we’ve had enough of their shit. Alas, a hard hitting journalist is enlightened, the conversion from top Gloria-basher, to top Gloria defender in order to save her newspaper from insignificance.

    The intelligentsia of Phil. politics has failed us with their epic messianic mistakes, which they feel obligated to still impose on the people today. Failure after failure, president after president beginning with the removal of Marcos.

    They removed the dictator unconstitutionally. Then they wanted us to follow the constitution. They even made a new one. Ah, “but Marcos was a dictator”, they’d surely hit back. And Gloria is not one?

    After all, I am not scared of those dictators – Marcos, or Gloria – because I am no criminal (except for possession of a wagging tongue, if that is a crime). What I am afraid of are these mini-dictators, who by their usual self-promoting agenda, have kept the Filipinos divided and engaged them in one-upmansip, weder-weder type of deadly vendetta game played with all 90-plus million Pinoys as pawns.

    They are the reason I did not vote for Noynoy in the elections. It is the same reason I am defending him now.

  82. baycas2 baycas2

    – 1 –

    Hindi ba natin napansin na…
    Tayo pa rin sa “People Power” ang una?

    Habang ang Amerika’y “Occupy Wall St.” pa lang…
    At ang buong mundo’y “Occupy all streets” naman

    Tayo’y hindi na nagsagawa ng EDSA nang lantaran
    Ito’y dahil sa ang EDSA’y nasa atin na’ng diwa

    – 2 –

    Ngayo’y “Occupy the hearts and minds” na
    ‘Di na kailangang makibaka sa kalsada

    Wala naman kasing naghalal sa mga taga Korte Suprema
    Ang inihalal sa ehekutibo ang mas pinanigan pa

    Walang “Rule of Law” ang makahihigit sa…
    Umiral na “Rule of Majority” sa ating bansa!

    KORO:

    O, sadyang nakaaawa
    Ang pinagmimistulang abang glorya

    Sapagka’t ang karamihan
    Sa kaniya’y hindi naaawa

    (Ulitin ang koro 2x)

  83. jawo jawo

    That is why we need the SC to interpret the law. We may not like their interpretation of the law but we still need to follow it less we become a chaotic country ala wild wild west. Matirang matibay, patay kung patay.———>Mike – November 22, 2011 8:26 am

    I agree. But this is the IDEAL supreme court you are talking about that would normally interpret the law as they should notwithstanding the personalities involved that the subject law will apply to. It is when these “honorable” magistrates start playing politics/padrinos to influence their decisions that things start getting chaotic. Then instead of the SC being the court of last resort, it becomes the court of a lost cause.

  84. chi chi

    Wow, swak na swak mo ang kaso ni putot, atty sax!

    Mike, why do we have to follow the law as interpreted by the putot’s Supreme Court when it is flawed and biased? Dapat ay salungatin sila ng publiko at itumpak ang kanilang mga palirong na tuktok. Agree, Jawo! ( I am still in the process of reading the previous leassons and comments.)

  85. Leila de Lima is vindicated! There was no TRO. So what the f… was all that noise about? She should be commended not pilloried.
    ————————–
    What everyone forgot to do properly – the Arroyos, Midas Marquez and their gambling lawyer Ferdinand Topacio — was what the Justices also wanted done before the TRO kicked in. This was a special power of attorney from the Arroyos authorizing their chosen lawyer (Topacio) to receive whatever legal papers (charges, pleadings, and whatever else) the courts and the government wanted the Arroyos to receive. Topacio’s receipt of these would be equivalent to the Arroyos actually receiving the documents.

    As it turns out, as discovered in the Nov. 18 session, this was not properly done. The authorization was submitted to the Court but not according to the way it should have been done, which meant that what the Arroyos submitted did not fulfill their part of the bargain; thus, for lack of a proper authorization to their lawyer, there was no TRO that could be enforced and which would serve as the Arroyos’ ticket to freedom.

    http://www.malaya.com.ph/nov23/edducky.html

  86. Dapat pala si “reverse Midas touch” (snv’s invention) ang i contempt! Siya ang nambabastos sa SC. Siya ba talaga o sumusunod lang sa utos?
    ——————————————-

    Marquez twists SC ruling

    MIDAS Marquez, Court administrator and spokesman, gave a different spin on the latest Supreme Court ruling on the TRO against the Department of Justice.

    The en banc voting on Friday, Nov. 11, was 7-6. The seven magistrates ruled that former President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo did not comply with the conditions for issuing a TRO.

    eto pa
    ———————————–
    The twisting of the meaning of the ruling so irked Associate Justice Maria Lourdes P. Serreno that she is said to have sent a memorandum to Midas Marquez curtly telling him that he has “no role interpreting the ruling of the Court.”

    The memo, we heard, even suggested that lawyer Marquez should not ascribe to the Court what the Chief Justice orders him to say in public. It cannot be presumed that Marquez acted on his own in misinterpreting the ruling.

  87. So the next time this Corona/Arroyo coopted SC orders everybody to eat shit and die, I’ll check first if all requirements were met before I even consider complying with it, but even if it did – never!

  88. chi chi

    Corona should stop aiding and abetting the putot and pig, hindi ba sya nakakahalata sa nangyari sa TRO nya na tinabla ng karma? If he insisted on giving favors to the putot and pidal, baka ipa-impeach na sya ng publiko o batuhin sya ng bugok na itlog at kamatis.

  89. chi chi

    SC spox Midas Marquez should zip his mouth, masyadong madaldal hindi alam ang pinagsasabi, that is if he is not just following orders from his boss Corona.

  90. baycas2 baycas2

    alam ni jug bakit madaldal. may video pa nga siya ibang thread.

  91. bayonic bayonic

    Bay … One link to a video is on reply #82.

  92. MPRivera MPRivera

    chi, welkam bak!

    your usual self, again. mas matalas ‘ata ngayon.

  93. Attn: chi
    Subject: AWOL

    Pls. explain within 24 hrs. why you should not be subject to disciplinary action for your extended absence at a time your valuable inputs were badly needed.

    For your strict compliance.

    **********

    Hahaha. Hirap maghabol lalo may malaking isyu at mahahaba ang mga threads. Okey na sigurong parusa yan. Lol.

  94. baycas,

    Hahaha, nakuha ko lang to from a gay friend na dating sobrang macho kahit tayong dalawa pwede niya sigurong gulpihin, huwag na daw akong manood ng Praybeyt Benjamin para matawa (sa dami ng stress) ito daw relevant to the issues pa rin. 🙂
    After all the stress mga katoto, tumawa naman tayo. hehehe.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qJw10-ePSw

  95. rabbit rabbit

    anorexic namn ngayon,, para sa di nakak alam ,,,meaning eating disorder,,, parang ang lubha na kung basahin… pero un ,,di lang makakain.. un na ang bagoong sakit namn nya,, any words in medical term just not let her get detain at jail..
    anu pa susunud dyan,, hangang ngayon pinagloloko pa rin tayo…di bna talaga natutuo itong si pandak daig pa ang writer ng mmk..
    tama na ang drama napapapaniwala namn mga official dyan
    IKULONG yan ang sigaw ng madlang bayan

  96. Mike Mike

    #90

    Chi,

    So how do we go about it? Di naman natin siguro pwedeng ratratin ang mga yan at baka tayo naman ang makulong niyan. May proseso, ipa-impeach ang mga yan para sila matanggal. Tutal majority ng nasa kongreso kampi na kay PNoy.
    Idaan ang lahat sa proseso at naayon sa batas para di magkagulo.

  97. Mike Mike

    #91

    If there is no law being violated with regards to the TRO, then well and good.

  98. chijap chijap

    From http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideNews.htm?f=2011/november/23/news3.isx&d=2011/november/23

    The Arroyo camp has this explanation about DC41:

    “Mrs. Arroyo’s lawyer acknowledged that she erred, when she was President, when she approved a Justice Department circular that became the basis of the watch list order against her.

    ‘A mistake is a mistake; it’s wrong to perpetuate a mistake,’ Anacleto Diaz said when questioned by Associate Justice Maria Lourdes Sereno, who seemed to dismiss his answer.”

    Just love it when they say its only a mistake when it gets applied to her.

  99. hawaiianguy hawaiianguy

    Sana matapos na ito at makulong na ang mga hudas.

  100. hawaiianguy hawaiianguy

    Mistake pala kung iba ang gumawa, pero kung si Aling Gloria tama. Talaga naman!

  101. andres andres

    Ikulong si Gloria! Isama na ang buong pamilyang bumaboy sa bansa!

  102. baycas2 baycas2

    Jug, obvious vaah? Hahaha. Hintayin ko reactn ni Chi…

    —–

    “Anorexia nervosa”?

    Mali lang malamang ang pandinig…

    Ang sabi ni putot ay,

    Ano next na? Ka-nerbiyos, ah!

  103. baycas2 baycas2

    bay, na-miss ko. lagi kasing word press error…

    tnx.

  104. chi chi

    bay, kita ko na video, mahinhin pa sya sa akin, hehehe!

    tongue, more than two weeks ako walang konek pagdating ko from Bataan sabog na pala balita kay putot, nakakaawa lang dahil wala yatang naaawang kaluluwa sa kanya. 🙂

    mags, kunwari di natin alam, hehe!

  105. chi chi

    Mike, wala naman talagang dapat sundin na TRO, nalimutan ni betlog ang kanyang trabaho. Besides, hindi porke Supreme Court sila ay hindi natin pwedeng kwestyunin ang kanilang desisyon lalo pa kung maliwanag na biased sa iilan to the detriment of the national interest.

  106. Mike Mike

    #112

    Sorry Chi, but I beg to disagree na pwedeng di sundin ang desisyon ng SC, mali man o tama ang desisyon. Kung ganun ang ating pag iisip, lahat nalang siguro ng mga natalo sa kanilang mga kaso pwede na rin nilang sabihin na di nila susundin ang utos ng hukom kasi mali sa desisyon.

    Chi, di man tumutugma minsan ang ating mga pananaw, ginagalang ko naman ang iyong opinion. 😀

  107. Mike Mike

    Pwede naman iapila ang desisyon ng SC kapag sa tingin natin ay mali.

  108. hilman hilman

    anorexic pag mayaman , pataygutom pag mahirap … bakit ganun?

  109. chi chi

    No problemo Mike, you got yours I got mine. I am not an absolutist. 🙂

  110. baycas2 baycas2

    it’s ok, Tongue, ted locsin and the Maguindanao massacre are closely related.

  111. chijap chijap

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/nation/11/25/11/dato-arroyo-my-mother-will-face-music

    The Arroyos really can’t go over the fact they got smarted by the admin’s move over the TRO. With Datu’s words it was obvious their main chip was (the TRO) was worthless. Naisahan talaga sila at di nila matanggap.

    I wonder how they can avail of the TRO themselves having known that Topacio failed to do his duties, thus the 7-6 vote.

    And now to mention Pardoning Erap? Wow. No one wanted Erap pardoned except GMA because of Erap’s loyal followers. Another self serving decision.

    Datu, its unfortunate you decided to simply insist blood is thicker than water.

  112. Di ko maalala kung saan ko nasabi na huwag munang i-leak yung mugshots ni Putot hanggang mainit pa yung ibang followers. Baka magaya sa EDSA TRES. Siguro after one week lalabas din yan.

    Napick-up yata ng Luli Brigade kaya sila na mismo ang gumawa ng pekeng mugshots at ipublish agad.

    Nabuking lang kasi mali yung case number.

  113. baycas2 baycas2

    Supreme 8: “She’s fit to leave
    the country.”

    Arroyo lawyers posing as docs: “She’s fit to live
    in the hospital detention center.”

    Arroyo docs: “She’s fit to leave
    the hospital.”

    Arroyo lawyers again: “She’s fit to live
    in her house.”

    Other lawyers: “She’s fit to live
    in jail.”

    Lawyer Nani: “She’s fit to live
    with me.”

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