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		<title>By: luzviminda</title>
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		<dc:creator>luzviminda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched a lady host in the newscast of TEN telling that some people think that the way Chiz talk, na parang makata ay isang &#039;put-on&#039; lang, dahil hindi naman daw ganito siya makipag-usap sa natural. Maybe because he is a good debater at nagpa-paimpress, minsan paikot-ikot. And maybe that is also the reason na hindi rin siya masyadong mabenta sa ibang kabataan dahil nahihirapan silang maka-connect. Now in these age of SMS and techno! Karamiahn pa naman sa mga estudyante ay hate ang subject na Pilipino.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched a lady host in the newscast of TEN telling that some people think that the way Chiz talk, na parang makata ay isang &#8216;put-on&#8217; lang, dahil hindi naman daw ganito siya makipag-usap sa natural. Maybe because he is a good debater at nagpa-paimpress, minsan paikot-ikot. And maybe that is also the reason na hindi rin siya masyadong mabenta sa ibang kabataan dahil nahihirapan silang maka-connect. Now in these age of SMS and techno! Karamiahn pa naman sa mga estudyante ay hate ang subject na Pilipino.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone mentioned about the column of Patricia Evangelista here. I can&#039;t find it now. 

I found this blog answering Patricia:

Patricia ends her tirade against Chiz’s defection from the NPC with

    Mostly, I write this because, very frankly, I cannot trust a man whose mouth says one thing, and his eyes another.

now frankly, I wonder what it is that’s in Chiz’s eyes. or in Noynoy’s for that matter – he who is obviously Patricia’s candidate because, as she says, Chiz’s decision to defect is sold as

    another touchstone of national change on the heels of Noynoy Aquino’s rise as the nation’s moral, if less articulate choice.

http://radikalchick.com/ by Katrina Stuart Santiago</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone mentioned about the column of Patricia Evangelista here. I can&#8217;t find it now. </p>
<p>I found this blog answering Patricia:</p>
<p>Patricia ends her tirade against Chiz’s defection from the NPC with</p>
<p>    Mostly, I write this because, very frankly, I cannot trust a man whose mouth says one thing, and his eyes another.</p>
<p>now frankly, I wonder what it is that’s in Chiz’s eyes. or in Noynoy’s for that matter – he who is obviously Patricia’s candidate because, as she says, Chiz’s decision to defect is sold as</p>
<p>    another touchstone of national change on the heels of Noynoy Aquino’s rise as the nation’s moral, if less articulate choice.</p>
<p><a href="http://radikalchick.com/" rel="nofollow">http://radikalchick.com/</a> by Katrina Stuart Santiago</p>
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		<title>By: luzviminda</title>
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		<dc:creator>luzviminda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jpax:&quot;Do you know what is the common denominator of Chiz and Ping why Mr. Banayo helped them, it is their clear stand on pork barrel system that one of the root cause of massive corruption in government.&quot;

jpax,
 Ang alam ko ay hindi tinatanggihan ni Chiz ang kanyang pork barrel. Ang sabi ni Chiz sa isang article na nabasa ko ay hindi &quot;pinapa-RELEASE&quot; sa utos ni Gloria ang allotment niya dahil kabilang nga daw siya sa oposisyon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jpax:&#8221;Do you know what is the common denominator of Chiz and Ping why Mr. Banayo helped them, it is their clear stand on pork barrel system that one of the root cause of massive corruption in government.&#8221;</p>
<p>jpax,<br />
 Ang alam ko ay hindi tinatanggihan ni Chiz ang kanyang pork barrel. Ang sabi ni Chiz sa isang article na nabasa ko ay hindi &#8220;pinapa-RELEASE&#8221; sa utos ni Gloria ang allotment niya dahil kabilang nga daw siya sa oposisyon.</p>
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		<title>By: henry90</title>
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		<dc:creator>henry90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@xman at 67:

Hagip na hagip ano? That&#039;s the problem with glib talkers. . .very fast magsalita. . .very fast ding makalimot. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@xman at 67:</p>
<p>Hagip na hagip ano? That&#8217;s the problem with glib talkers. . .very fast magsalita. . .very fast ding makalimot. . .</p>
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		<title>By: chi</title>
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		<dc:creator>chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an email from joeseg (walang permiso na inimport ko dito).

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&quot;Those who vote decide nothing, those who count the votes decide everything&quot;
 
Si tukayong Joseph Stalin mismo ang nagsabi nyan kaya tunay na tunay na nangyayari kahit hindi pa uso ang double jeopar-G, si glorya at garci noong panahon nya.
 
Ako&#039;y matamang nakikiramdam sa takbo ng pulitika sa atin. Marami pa talagang mangyayari at ayaw man o gustuhin natin, malaking papel ang gagampanan ni Erap. May himig din akong uurong si Erap kapag nakita nyang mababa sa survey at si Noynoy ang eendorso. O di kaya, Supreme Court will decide that he can&#039;t run anymore which will do good for him as a graceful exit.
 
Now, may bago na naman pakulo ang admin na bukod sa pagtakbo bilang repre=sin=ta.thieve ng Pampanga, pwede rin daw as vice president si glorya  http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/228083/a-dangerous-proposition. Isang ubod nang sipsip na taga Quezon pa mandin ang nagmungkahi. Kung mananalo si glorya, mas madali nga naman na muling makabalik sa poder dahil kung mamatay ang kung sinong mamanalong president (o di kaya patayin), sya na naman at forever na!!! Kung magkaganun, sino ang pwedeng makatalo kay glorya? Si Markoring, tangna, malamang tumaob. Si Jejomar, hindi rin uubra. Si Loren, lulunurin pa rin. Eh sino pa? Mas areglado kung si Erap na ang tumakbo as vice president with Chiz as president. Sila ni glorya ang maglalaban at dyan natin makikita ang tunay na damdamin ng Noypi. At kapag tinalo ni glorya si Erap, iiral ang aking motto: Pag tinalo, dinaya. Hehehe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an email from joeseg (walang permiso na inimport ko dito).</p>
<p>__<br />
&#8220;Those who vote decide nothing, those who count the votes decide everything&#8221;</p>
<p>Si tukayong Joseph Stalin mismo ang nagsabi nyan kaya tunay na tunay na nangyayari kahit hindi pa uso ang double jeopar-G, si glorya at garci noong panahon nya.</p>
<p>Ako&#8217;y matamang nakikiramdam sa takbo ng pulitika sa atin. Marami pa talagang mangyayari at ayaw man o gustuhin natin, malaking papel ang gagampanan ni Erap. May himig din akong uurong si Erap kapag nakita nyang mababa sa survey at si Noynoy ang eendorso. O di kaya, Supreme Court will decide that he can&#8217;t run anymore which will do good for him as a graceful exit.</p>
<p>Now, may bago na naman pakulo ang admin na bukod sa pagtakbo bilang repre=sin=ta.thieve ng Pampanga, pwede rin daw as vice president si glorya  <a href="http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/228083/a-dangerous-proposition" rel="nofollow">http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/228083/a-dangerous-proposition</a>. Isang ubod nang sipsip na taga Quezon pa mandin ang nagmungkahi. Kung mananalo si glorya, mas madali nga naman na muling makabalik sa poder dahil kung mamatay ang kung sinong mamanalong president (o di kaya patayin), sya na naman at forever na!!! Kung magkaganun, sino ang pwedeng makatalo kay glorya? Si Markoring, tangna, malamang tumaob. Si Jejomar, hindi rin uubra. Si Loren, lulunurin pa rin. Eh sino pa? Mas areglado kung si Erap na ang tumakbo as vice president with Chiz as president. Sila ni glorya ang maglalaban at dyan natin makikita ang tunay na damdamin ng Noypi. At kapag tinalo ni glorya si Erap, iiral ang aking motto: Pag tinalo, dinaya. Hehehe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chi</title>
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		<dc:creator>chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dyan ako bilib sa &#039;yo, tedanz...meron kang nakalinya pero hindi mo iniiwanan si Erap, unless si Gibo or Villar ang kanyang iendorso.

Marami pang realignment ang mangyayari from hereon, baka between LP and NP lang ang laban, irrelevant kasi ang manok ni Gloria. Unless na gamitin nila ang makinarya ng Hello Garci, walang pag-asa si Gibo. Kung gagamitin nila ay tiyak magkakagulo na ng tuluyan dahil walang maniniwala sa kanyang panalo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dyan ako bilib sa &#8216;yo, tedanz&#8230;meron kang nakalinya pero hindi mo iniiwanan si Erap, unless si Gibo or Villar ang kanyang iendorso.</p>
<p>Marami pang realignment ang mangyayari from hereon, baka between LP and NP lang ang laban, irrelevant kasi ang manok ni Gloria. Unless na gamitin nila ang makinarya ng Hello Garci, walang pag-asa si Gibo. Kung gagamitin nila ay tiyak magkakagulo na ng tuluyan dahil walang maniniwala sa kanyang panalo.</p>
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		<title>By: Tedanz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tedanz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ganyan talaga ang politika ... matira ang matibay. 
Basta&#039;t Erap pa din ako at kung hindi siya ouwedeng tumakbo .... doon ako sa iendorso niya ... kung si Chiz oks lang, kung si Noynoy ... oks din lang .... wag lang si Gibo at Villar.
Si Erap kasi ay para sa mahihirap .... at kahit noon pa naman .. hindi siya nagbabago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ganyan talaga ang politika &#8230; matira ang matibay.<br />
Basta&#8217;t Erap pa din ako at kung hindi siya ouwedeng tumakbo &#8230;. doon ako sa iendorso niya &#8230; kung si Chiz oks lang, kung si Noynoy &#8230; oks din lang &#8230;. wag lang si Gibo at Villar.<br />
Si Erap kasi ay para sa mahihirap &#8230;. at kahit noon pa naman .. hindi siya nagbabago.</p>
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		<title>By: Tedanz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tedanz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kaya nga pinagsususpetsahan ko yung mga handlers ni Chiz eh. Sa totoo lang, suspetsa ko ay backdoor operator yang si Banayo para mahati ang oposisyon. &quot; --- LVM
Agree ako diyan ......
&quot; Ginawa na niya yun nuon kay Lacson para kalabanin si FPJ. &quot; ... LVM
Agree din ako diyan ....
Kaya rin siguro tinira ni Lacson si Erap ano?????
Wala kasi siyang mahakot sa mga elitistas yellowistas kaya ayon bumaba siya ng level ... doon naman siya ngayon sa domain ni Erap ... madami kasi kami doon. Wa-es din pala itong si Banayo ano? Sabagay ganyan talaga ang mga iyan hahanapin kung saan kikita.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kaya nga pinagsususpetsahan ko yung mga handlers ni Chiz eh. Sa totoo lang, suspetsa ko ay backdoor operator yang si Banayo para mahati ang oposisyon. &#8221; &#8212; LVM<br />
Agree ako diyan &#8230;&#8230;<br />
&#8221; Ginawa na niya yun nuon kay Lacson para kalabanin si FPJ. &#8221; &#8230; LVM<br />
Agree din ako diyan &#8230;.<br />
Kaya rin siguro tinira ni Lacson si Erap ano?????<br />
Wala kasi siyang mahakot sa mga elitistas yellowistas kaya ayon bumaba siya ng level &#8230; doon naman siya ngayon sa domain ni Erap &#8230; madami kasi kami doon. Wa-es din pala itong si Banayo ano? Sabagay ganyan talaga ang mga iyan hahanapin kung saan kikita.</p>
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		<title>By: manuelbuencamino</title>
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		<dc:creator>manuelbuencamino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xonix,

you know if a elected official is accused of graft and corruption and he is reelected anyway, the graft and corruption charges are dropped because it is presumed that the people by reelecting him judged him not guilty.

Now, if Gloria had won the 2004 election all those accusations against her before she ran and won would have been washed out.

Drilon and company and the hyatt 10 left Gloria when they heard the Garci tapes and Gloria did not and could not explain it to them. That&#039;s when they decided they could not continue to work with her

&quot;they only left gloria during the height of hello garci kasi akala nila tanggal na siya. drilon and company, including the infamous hyatt 10 were even talking to noli de castro already.&quot;

You have this backwards. Gloria got into serious trouble when her cabinet and some of her closest political allies joined the protests against her. Remember FNR and JDV running to her rescue? That happened after drilon and company and the hyatt 10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xonix,</p>
<p>you know if a elected official is accused of graft and corruption and he is reelected anyway, the graft and corruption charges are dropped because it is presumed that the people by reelecting him judged him not guilty.</p>
<p>Now, if Gloria had won the 2004 election all those accusations against her before she ran and won would have been washed out.</p>
<p>Drilon and company and the hyatt 10 left Gloria when they heard the Garci tapes and Gloria did not and could not explain it to them. That&#8217;s when they decided they could not continue to work with her</p>
<p>&#8220;they only left gloria during the height of hello garci kasi akala nila tanggal na siya. drilon and company, including the infamous hyatt 10 were even talking to noli de castro already.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have this backwards. Gloria got into serious trouble when her cabinet and some of her closest political allies joined the protests against her. Remember FNR and JDV running to her rescue? That happened after drilon and company and the hyatt 10</p>
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		<title>By: xonix</title>
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		<dc:creator>xonix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>al, you are so right.  chiz is consistent with regards to righting gma.  from day one of the illegal regime chiz is with the opposition.

noynoy and villar are with the administration.  let us not forget they even help install her to power.  villar with the impeachment and noynoy because of the yellow peril. 

reminder also to all, when sen. lacson exposed jose pidal, the macapidal highway and other pre hello garci anomalies, nasaan sila.  they were so busy also earning money and playing footsies with gma.  si chiz lumalaban na nuon. 

they only left gloria during the height of hello garci kasi akala nila tanggal na siya.  drilon and company, including the infamous hyatt 10 were even talking to noli de castro already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>al, you are so right.  chiz is consistent with regards to righting gma.  from day one of the illegal regime chiz is with the opposition.</p>
<p>noynoy and villar are with the administration.  let us not forget they even help install her to power.  villar with the impeachment and noynoy because of the yellow peril. </p>
<p>reminder also to all, when sen. lacson exposed jose pidal, the macapidal highway and other pre hello garci anomalies, nasaan sila.  they were so busy also earning money and playing footsies with gma.  si chiz lumalaban na nuon. </p>
<p>they only left gloria during the height of hello garci kasi akala nila tanggal na siya.  drilon and company, including the infamous hyatt 10 were even talking to noli de castro already.</p>
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