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Truth shall spring out of the earth

This is the speech of Rep. Alan Peter Cayetano last Sept. 5. For your reference:

Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven”
Psalms 85:11

Madam President, Atty. Mike Arroyo I am not sorry! It is not because I cannot humble myself if I made a mistake, but because the administration refused to allow us to present evidence in the committee on justice, you refuse to sign the waiver and so far the bank certification has not proven the impeachment team wrong.

My earthly father has always believed in integrity and fighting for justice. He also believed in fair play.

It is in this spirit that I asked the President to allow the impeachment team and our lawyers to present evidence in either the Committee on Justice or in the Senate or both.

Unfortunately we in behalf of the Filipino people were not given the chance to present the evidence. Instead the First Gentleman insisted on focusing on just one issue and insisted that only by going to Germany may the truth come out. I discouraged him from going all the way to Germany because instead of answers there will be many more questions. Thus a waiver authorizing transparency in bank accounts here and abroad would answer all questions.

I was right Mr Speaker, Tama yung certificate but may dagdag. Instead of 22 digits which I mentioned in the committee on justice the certification has 23 numbers. May bawas din instead of PGma, the First Gentleman, Congressmen Iggy and Mikey Arroyo and in any name for their benefit only Atty Mike Arroyos name appears. Why were they entertained? Why did the bank accommodate them on a holiday? Why the belated certification to include the President? This is for the first Gentleman to answer. But the point is more questions were raised than answers, when by simply signing the waiver we could produce the information needed for a conclusive finding.

Yesterday the President asked me to stop speaking on this issue, based on the Bank certification. Madam President maybe you are being misled by your husband.

1st I only mentioned this once in the committee on justice, then I clarified on television that this is part of the impeachment complaint. After that It was the First Gentleman who went to town with all sorts of challenges and threats. It is He who has made a spectacle of this. And continues to make a spectacle by his supposed attempts to clear your name, now dragging you into the picture. Let me give the solution sign the waiver and we end the issue here and now.

2nd The supposed new evidence that the German bank account only contains 10 digits. Again your husband and his lawyers misled you. It is a half truth. International Bank account number was adopted by the European Committee for Banking standards and was later adopted as ISO 13616: 1997. It is up to each country’s national banking community to decide on the length of the BBAN ( Basic Bank Account Number) for accounts in that country, but its length must be fixed for any given country. It may be correct that their Bban is 10 digits but the Iban or the International Bank Account Number is different for different countries. Thus French and Italians use 27 digits, Spanish use 24, Austrians use 20, Danish use 18 and Germans use 22 digits!

Your lawyer keeps misleading the public by saying that the account numbers used in Germany contain only 10 digits when the international bank account number is actually 22 digits. And in fact this was never mentioned in the certification yet the First Gentleman’s lawyers make it appear that this is part of the certification.

Why the heavy reliance Madam President on certification from a bank?
When Jose Pidal was unmasked BPI family savings bank certified that as of Aug 29 2003 they did not have a bank account in the name of Jose Pidal. But in the same letter they confirmed that indeed there was an account opened in late 1997 and closed in the year 2000. When the Blue Ribbon committee in the senate tried to get more facts out of the Jose Pidal accounts someone who claimed to be the Jose Pidal simply invoked his right to privacy. Are the President and the first gentleman invoking their right to privacy on anything and every thing except a 22 digit account in an international German Bank. Kung bubuksan and isang account bakit hindi buksan ang lahat? Sign the waiver!

I have here a certification that the Garci tape shows no evidence that would suggest that the conversations have been altered in any way from their original recorded form. Are you now saying based on this you should apologize and resign? Your husband is asking me to do just that . So if there is anyone who owes you an apology Madame President and owe the Filipino people a credible explanation it is the first gentleman.

Again Mr Speaker I am not saying they are guilty but don’t you agree their evidence is not conclusive. A reasonable mind will continue entertaining doubts and asking questions.

Our People deserve more.

I am simply asking that we implement the same standard this administration has applied to ordinary government officials. I ask only the President be true to her word that good governance and good government be at the center of the Arroyo administration.

Allow me to repeat. Psalms 85:11”Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven”blockquote>

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122 Comments

  1. Chabeli Chabeli

    Isn’t strange that the Court of Appeals lifted the TRO for government to pay Piatco?

    How coincidental that the bank account that Rep. Cayetano mentioned is in GERMANY as it seems that there is a haste to pay Piatco (where one of the major owners, FRAPORT, is also a GERMAN company) after his revelation.

    It doesn’t smell good…

    What smells good is that Rep. Cayetano was able to smoke the Pidals out! I say, GUILTY!

  2. norpil norpil

    i thought they are guilty and just waiting for a sentence which may come anytime.

  3. Lagi na lang MAY DAGDAG!

    Remember garci tapes?
    “Yung dagdag! Yung dagdag!”

    Eto at humirit naman yung asawang babi….[kaPAMPAMngan, kaya imbes baboy, babi!]
    may dagdag din yung numero ng certification….

    Kaya naman pala hindi nagkatugma eh!

  4. norpil norpil

    sabi ng kapatid ko sa pinas, napakadaling maglinis ng pangalan kung puedeng linisin. problema kung beyond redemption na itong mga ito.

  5. Mrivera Mrivera

    a reminder: from glue’s (decomposing) state of the nation

    To be world-class we invest in five comprehensive strategies for global competitiveness:

    1. Make food plentiful and affordable to keep our labor cost globally competitive.
    2. Reduce the cost of electricity to make our factories regionally competitive.
    3. Modernize infrastructure at least cost to efficiently transport goods and people.
    4. Mobilize, upgrade and disseminate knowledge and technologies for productivity.
    5. Reduce red tape in all agencies to cut business costs.

    The most prohibitive red tape is in our outmoded Constitution. We need Constitutional change to bring our rules of investment into the new millennium

    The new public bidding process has been shortened to 45 days for infrastructure, and 26 days for supplies, as of today. Even before this, Metro Manila firms paying bribes for public contracts declined from 57% in 2003 to 46 today. Congratulations, Metro Manila

    Machine readable electronic passports will enhance the credibility of Philippine travel documents, improve the mobility and increase the prospects of Philippine business and labor.

    meron ba kayong maidadagdag, babawasin o babaguhin?

  6. Mrivera:

    Walang pinag-iba iyan doon sa salawal ng mga intsik na may butas sa puwit! Puro palabas lang!

    Maniwala ka namang walang ng bribery. E puro ang lagay nga. Mabilis kang magbayad, tapos agad ang papel mo. Pero tighan mo kung tama.

    Machine registration sabi mo, dito nga nagparehistro ang mga pilipino, ang yabang pa ng isang rep ng Comelec na nagsabing maganda ang ID at complete daw. August tinapos ang palista para daw tamang-tama by December distributed na ang ID. Aba, dumating iyong ID, a few weeks before the start of the voting by mail dito sa Japan, pero wala pang 10% noong mga nagparehistro. Worse, kulang-kulang ang nakalagay sa ID. Ang daming na-defranchise. Hindi na lang ni-require na ipakita ang mga passport lalo na doon sa mga asawa ng mga hapon na hindi naman puedeng ipakasal ng walang tamang papeles na galing sa Philippine Embassy.

    Tungkol naman doon sa sinasabi ni Pandak na education daw, golly Junior Caregiver coure ino-offer sa mga 13-17-year-old na school dropouts sa mga probinsiya. Tinuturuan kuno ng oreign language para sa mga future Super Atsay and Super Atsoy! Isang bata tinanong kung anong lenguahe ang pinag-aaralan niya, ang sagot, “Mardarin po!” Nang ng puwit, Marderin yata imbes na Mandarin!!!

    Progress, sabi? Maniwala ka sa mga sinungaling! Guniguni lang nila iyan!

  7. Toney Cuevas Toney Cuevas

    Rep. Alan Cayetano are more believable with intact credibility than all the Arroyos combined together and on their wildest dream. It seems the Arroyos doesn’t have anything chargeable to use against Rep Cayetano or the Arroyos would’ve use it by now. Case still young though, and I won’t put a pass on them Arroyos, they perfected the art of fabrication or they won’t be where they are now. Law of probability soon will catch up on them Arroyos, it’s inevitable. Just can’t keep on lying, cheating and stealing, just can’t. It must end!

  8. fencesitter fencesitter

    Chabeli Says:
    “Isn’t strange that the Court of Appeals lifted the TRO for government to pay Piatco?”

    yes chabeli. i was also wondering why the lifting of the TRO was already the talk of the town even before the CA itself promulgated the order. people in malacañang were already announcing to all and sundry the lifting order even before they can get a copy of it. it sound very much like a marching order for the court to rule on the matter the malacañang way!

    the court supposedly should be independent. since marcos time, we have always been complaining of a compliant court.

    i don’t want to connect the TRO lifting to gma’s visit to finland to attend the ASEM where germany is also a participant. fraport, a german company, previously involved in that naia-3 project is already out of the picture because piatco had already bought its interest in the project. although the buying-out story of fraport by piatco is as interesting as well. remember fraport originally is holding 65% interest in that project. how a minority partner can dominate a majority partner can be mind boggling. it has its own story of arm-twisting attributable to another administration. during erap’s time the contract to build naia-3 was amended or revised so many times that the SC later on voided or annulled it for being heavily tainted with graft although it ordered the government to pay piatco the cost already incurred in the construction if it intends to operate the airport terminal.

    the case in the RTC of Pasay was for purposes of determining just compensation. but when the court ordered P3B (roughly, $650M)initial payment for a project only costing about $150M, everybody can smell the rot miles away. can we fault the court for that? hell, no! the court cannot rule on that unless it is fully supported with evidence. so if the government lawyers handling the case did not oppose or question the evidence presented by piatco or if they cannot present better evidence to prove that the piatco’s claim is excessive how can the court rule in favor of the state? the government lawyers handling the case should see to it that the compensation to be paid piatco is exactly JUST not a whooping bonanza to be shouldered by an overburdened taxpayers.

    so when the goods or services is paid in a government transaction and it look grossly overpriced, we all know that the most lucky citizens of this country will soon be dividing oodles and oodles of money they did not earn by the sweat of their brows.

  9. Ellen: latest statment from protest organizers in Brussels.

    Protest for human rights at the occasion of the Philippine president’s visit

    Tuesday September 12 at 12:30 at Place Schuman in front of the European Commission

    On Tuesday September 12, Philippine president Gloria Arroyo will visit the European Commission in Brussels. She will meet Commission chair Barroso, among others. Solidarity workers, human rights advocates and trade union activists will meet her arrival with a protest action in the middle of the European neighbourhood in Brussels. They call for decisive action against political killings in the Philippines.

    Since Arroyo came to power in 2001, almost 750 people fell victim to extrajudicial killings. Many of them are leaders of people’s organizations, trade unions and progressive political parties but also journalists, lawyers and ordinary civilians are killed by death squads.

    Several international agencies have criticized the government of Arroyo recently:
    The ICFTU warned Arroyo on July 11 that the Philippines is already in the same category as Colombia when it comes to murders on trade union activists.
    Amnesty International reminded Arroyo on August 15 that the government has to take decisive action to stop the political killings if it wants to give peace a chance.
    The International Federation of Journalists declared on August 22 it is appalled by the continued inaction of the Philippine government although it is ranked as the second most dangerous country in the world for journalists, after Iraq.
    On September 5, the World Council of Churches called on the government of the Philippines to disband “death squads”, private militias and paramilitary forces operating with impunity in the country.
    Also diplomatic pressure on the Philippine government is mounting. The European Commission’s representative in the Philippines, Jan De Kok, already said that human rights will be on the agenda during Arroyo’s visit. The demonstrators will remind Barroso that, towards the Arroyo government, a critical attitude is appropriate.

    The protest action is also an opportunity to launch the broad “Stop the killings in the Philippines!” campaign. Solidarity groups, human rights advocates and trade union activists are defending in this campaign their Philippine colleagues’ right to life. More information at http://www.stopthekillings.be

  10. myrna myrna

    Hurrah for Rep Cayetano. Natumbok niya yung mga dapat sabihin sa pamilyang swapang.

    Mga kapal-muks at manhid lang gaya ng mag asawang pidal at mga alipores nila ang di makakaunawa sa mga paliwanag ni Rep Cayetano.

    Mahilig ngang magdagdag, di lang boto ang dinagdagan, pati account number, may dagdag na digit. nakakahiya na sila…nakakasuka….bakit kasi hindi pa kumilos ang lahat ng pilipino para patalbugin ang pamilyang swapang????

    please lang…….

  11. Statement of Rep. Roilo Golez:

    The expulsion case against Cong. Cayetano faces bleak prospects in the House because of the following reasons:

    1. I sense a general reluctanceon the part of congressmen to cannibalize their own kind.

    Only in the most brazenly atrocious offense would most congressmen lose that reluctance.

    Of course, I know at least four congressmen who would not hesitate to stab Cayetano in the back to score pogi points with Malacañang. Even now those four appear to be areaby salivating at the prospect of lynching Cayetano.

    2. The case would get moving in October and would be oevertakenby the All saints Day long break. When we come back in November, i would be tough to muster a quorum, more so two thirdsof all members to vote for expulsion.

    3.I doubt if JDV would like to have blood in his hands by presiding over the expulsion of a young member.

    Be that as it may, Cayetano expelled or not, the expulsion proceedings would give him pore points to land him in the topnothers in the 2007 elections.

    Same thing happened in the case of then Cong. Osmeña, Jr. who was suspendedby the House when he maligned then Pres. Garcia in 1960.

    He parlayed this to land no. 2 in the 1961 vice presidential election as an independent, then further rising to run for president in 1969 againt Marcos.

  12. florry florry

    Comparing Cayetano and the fat guy, the former is more believable, while the later like his wife The Glue are known pathological liars. Credibility and integrity are virtues that Cayetano has lots of it, while the other has a big fat zero of it. Aling Glue and her family’s actions betrayed their claimed good name and good governance, in the same breathe, exposing their hypocrisy, evilness and vengefulness against those who want to do something good for the country. In all and every exposed scams and scandals, their fingerprints are all over it, be it glue, or mike or mikey or iggy. At haharap pa sa mga tao na akala mo mga malilinis na mga santo’t santa, yon pala’y mga demonyo’t demonyeta.
    My gut feeling is Cayetano will never give up on his fight against the fat guy, for better or for worse. It’s a good thing too that his sister Pia came all-out to support his cause. This is just another proof to the saying blood is thicker than water. The first time it was proven was when Iggy came to the rescue of the fat guy to own the Pidal accounts.
    Maybe the fat guy will succeed and win in his cases against him, well, we know how he operates in and out of the courts and tongress, but, at the end of the day, truth and justice will prevail, and he will be vindicated. One can never run away from truth. One way or another, often times in a very mysterious and strange ways, it just pops out. They will not be in power forever. That’s what these people are conveniently ignoring They are just too busy filling in their pockets and bank accounts, and completely forgetting that they have a country and 80 million people to serve. They stole the mandate and to add insult to injury, they are stealing too from those they stole from the mandate.

  13. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    Maybe kaya galit na galit si FG this time, as compared to the “Jose Pidal” episode, is that di na niya maulit ang kanyang pass-to-iggy caper. Paso na.

    Saka the amount is too big, kahit na ipasa niya sa iba, pagsusupetsahin sila!

  14. myrna myrna

    may nabasa ako na sinabi ng isang bayarang columnist ng standar in today’s issue, questioning the sense of values nina cayetano, na mga walang utang na loob daw. kasi nga, after yata tulungan financially ni mike pidal, kinalaban pa sila. wala daw sense of gratitude itong magkapatid, hence, nakikita kung anong klaseng pagkatao.

    siya daw, minsan, he has to bend his principles to give way to utang na loob.

    yan na nga ba ang mahirap sa mga pilipino….hindi marunong mag draw ng line between utang na loob and upholding one’s integrity.

    bakit, kung si cayetano ay natulungan man nilang mag asawa, naturally, may naitulong naman siguro yung magkapatid or yung tatay nila! ang mahirap, pinapakita ni mike pidal kung ano talagang klaseng tao siya: pagkatapos tumulong, saka ipinamamalita sa buong mundo ang naitulong niya, kahit na sabihin pang dahil sa circumstances.

    ang totoo niyan, kung talagang malinis ang kaban nila at kunsensiya, bakit atubili sila? saka di ba ang kasabihan: don’t let your right hand know what your left hand is doing. in this instance, tumulong yung right hand, ipinamalita ng left hand?

    hay naku pidal….talaga naman. bottom line is: wala na talaga silang kredibilidad. di pa ba nila ma-gets iyan?

    at yun namang nabasa ko sa sinabi ni tulfo about extortion charges kuno…sabi niya, kung totoo man daw, bakit maghanap pa ng “pangkape” sa iba, na nasa harap na lang niya mismo (referring to pidal) ang ginto!

    oh well….

  15. Jun Jun

    Hala sige mag imagine na kayo ng mag imagine at yan na lang ang kaya ninyong gawin. Puro suspetsa mano bang asikasuhin na lang ninyo ang mga mas may kabuluhang bagay. Maniwala kayo na si Gloria ay tunay na naglilingkod kung meron mang palpak ay kagagawan ng mga taong pinagkatiwalaan nya gaya ng (Huwad 10). Yon ang kasalanan nya ang magtiwala. Gaya niyang si Cayetano na akala siguro ay babgsak na ang Arroyo kayat kumambyo sa kabila pagkatapos makahuthot. Tapos kayo ngayon ang ginagamit nya sa kanyang agenda. HOy,,, Giseeeeeng!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. Mrivera Mrivera

    PGMA underscores importance of interfaith dialogue in fight vs. terrorism
    MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2006 | GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT

    HELSINKI, Finland (via PLDT)— President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo reiterated today her stand that not military might nor money but interfaith and intercultural initiatives could effectively combat terrorism.

    The President issued the statement at the second closed-door meeting of participating heads of delegation at the 6th Asia-Europe Meeting (ASEM) here with the theme “Dialogue Among Cultures and Civilizations” and on the occasion of the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 terror attack in New York City.

    “Today, the 5th anniversary of 9/11, the world has become painfully aware that the solution to terror cannot be found exclusively in military might or a bigger treasury,” she said.

    “Thus governments and individuals have turned to interfaith and intercultural initiatives designed to foster mutual respect, tolerance and friendship between peoples, cultures and religions,” she added.

    During the meeting, a minute of silence was set aside to remember the 9/11 incident.

    The President proudly informed her fellow heads of state or government of Asia and Europe that the Philippines has long been practicing and advocating interfaith dialogue in the resolution of terrorism that resulted to an increasing number of peaceful and stable communities in Southern Philippines due to the success of the Bishops-Ulama Conference, a dialogue forum initiated in the grassroots level composed of Catholic bishops, Muslim religious leaders and the National Council of Churches in the Philippines.

    She expressed her appreciation to ASEM for embracing the Philippines’ interfaith dialogue initiative by co-sponsoring two conferences held in Jakarta and Larnaca.

    ayun naman pala at stabilized na ang far flung communities dahil sa persistence ni glued to the wall of malacanan upang maisulong ang katahimika, pagkakaisa at kaunlaran, ano pa hinihintay natin? bakit hindi natin siya igawa ng bantayog? ‘yung nakatiwarik!!!!

  17. Mrivera Mrivera

    Palace to convince European leaders gov’t has nothing to do with killings
    MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2006 | GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT

    Bunye, who is accompanying the President in her nine-day trip abroad, issued the statement to refute charges that the government has something to do with the spate of extra-judicial killings in the country.

    “We are confident that we will be able to convince the European Union leaders that the Philippine government has nothing to do with the spate of killings,” he said.

    The President reportedly plans to invite a fact-finding team from the European Union to monitor and check human rights conditions in the country.

    She is expected to extend the official invitation during her visit to the European Union’s headquarters in Belgium Tuesday.

    If the President’s invitation is accepted, EU officials and Europe-based human rights groups are expected to form a fact-finding team to monitor and assess the human rights situation in the Philippines, especially the government’s efforts to address the unsolved killings and abductions in the past five years.

    “The EU community is assured of our high regard for the value of human life and our strict adherence to the basic principles of human rights,” Bunye said.

    The visit of the European delegation to the country “would help the world distinguish propaganda from facts behind all the reported cases of extra-judicial killings,” he added.

    talagan naman itong si ingacio “titing” bunyeta sobrang sipsep sa bruhang donya demonyita. walang kayang gawin kundi baluktutin ang katotohanan. hayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

  18. “may nabasa ako na sinabi ng isang bayarang columnist ng standar in today’s issue, questioning the sense of values nina cayetano, na mga walang utang na loob daw.”

    sino ito, myrna?

  19. Chabeli Chabeli

    fencesitter,
    I thought your comments were interesting. I agree with you that “…when the goods or services is paid in a government transaction and it look grossly overpriced, we all know that the most lucky citizens of this country will soon be dividing oodles and oodles of money they did not earn by the sweat of their brows.”

  20. Chabeli Chabeli

    The FakeGentleman in nothing but a BIG FAT BULLY!

  21. Bakit tatanaw ng utang na loob si Cayetano kay Fatso o kay Ale Boba. Nakaw lang naman ang pinamimigay nila? Taxpayers’ money ang inabuloy sa kanila ng kapatid niyang si Pia. Kaya sa taxpayers sila may utang na loob! Common sense and simple logic! Tangnang Fatso iyan, sobra ang hambug. Baka sabihin niya kanila na ang buong Pilipinas kasi iyong lolo niyang ponga, sumakay ng kabayo at nangabayo from Babuyan Island in the North down to the southermost island in Mindanao.

    Ano ba iyan, hibang! Ala Nero ha? Kulang na lang mag-gitara at kumanta habang sinusunog ang Malacanang!!! 🙁

    Mabuhay ka, Alan Cayetano! Hindi ka nag-iisa! Ipakita mong hindi butas na salawal ang suot mo gaya ng salawal ng batang intsik na nakita sa Beijing. Gosh, naalala ko iyong tawag ng nanay ko sa mga sundalong duwag, magaling lang pumatay ng kapwa nila mga pilipino!—sundalong kanin labas ang mga tumbong!!! 😛

  22. Mrivera Mrivera

    ystakei,

    aray! hindi naman kami ganoon noon. tabi tabi lang, please?

  23. Bakit sundalo ka ba dati, Mrivera?

    Marami rin akong kamag-anak na naging sundalo. Uncle ko Brig. General ng AFP, si Gen. Alfredo Cayton. Kapatid niya naging pinuno ng VMA. Pinsan ng mother ko. Kapatid ng father ko, decorated soldier ng WWII, nakalibing sa libingan ng mga bayani sa SFO, California.

    Pero itong mga sundalong kanin na pumapatay ng kapwa nila pilipino, kahit na tulisan o Moslem terrorist, iyan ang mga dapat na tinatanggal sa trabaho. Kaya wise talaga ang mga hapon na hindi nila pinapayagang sundalo ang manghuli ng mga tulisan at terorista dito. Trabaho ng mga pulis iyan. Bakit nabobo ng ganoon ang mga tao diyan? Ang mga sundalo ay para magtanggol ng bayan laban sa mga dayuhang sasakop ng bansa hindi para mangidnap at pumatay ng mga laban kay Ale Boba!

    ‘Lamat! Alam kong kalog ka rin kaya ka siguro umalis na makasama ang mga sundalong kanin!!! 😉

  24. myrna myrna

    johnmarzan, si emil jurado…. 🙂

    read what he wrote in yesterday’s manila standard opinion column. halatang-halata na pro-gma talaga. biased mga sinasabi. 🙂

  25. Jun Jun

    Abante – The rug paper. Ang mga bayarang columnista dito ang siyang nakakaliko ng mga paniniwala ng taong bayan especially the poor. Alam naman natin na cheap lang ang pahayagang ito kaya’t karamihang nakaka afford ay iyong mga karaniwang manggagawa. Dagdag pa ang mga bastos na mga litrato at mga tsismis sa Showbiz na ginagaya nilang modelong pang tsismis sa pulitika. Makikita rin natin dito kung pano nila bini build up ang mga alang kwentang mga taga oposisyon. Subali’t ang kapalit naman ay na bi brain wash nito ang ating mga mahihirap na manggagawa sa tunay na kalagayan ng bansa. Ang isa pa nilang propaganda ay ang pagpapakalat ng libreng kopya sa internet. Bukod tanging sila lamang ang nakaka afford nito, kaya’t halatang suportado ito at ginagastusan ng malaki ng oposisyon. I vote na dapat ipasara ang basurang pahayagan na ito. At isa si Ellen sa nakikinabang nito. Sorry to say but its true. Nabubuhay kayo sa maling paraan. Paano ninyo naaatim na ipakain sa inyong mga mahal sa buhay ang galing sa ganitong paraan. Samantalang kaming mga OFW na lumalaban ng parehas at nakakatulong upang patuloy na tumayo ang bansang ito ang numero unong biktima ng inyong mga kalokohan. Paano kami makakaahon sa pagiging OFW kung patuloy ninyong pipiliting itumba ang bansang ito sa pamamagitan ng inyong walang habas na mga intriga at mga demonyong paraan makapwesto lang kayo. Truth hurts BUT “KAYO ANG TOTOONG PAHIRAP SA BAYAN”

  26. alitaptap alitaptap

    anna de brux Says:
    September 12th, 2006 at 6:25 am
    Ellen: latest statment from protest organizers in Brussels.
    (snip snip)
    The protest action is also an opportunity to launch the broad “Stop the killings in the Philippines!” campaign. Solidarity groups, human rights advocates and trade union activists are defending in this campaign their Philippine colleagues’ right to life.
    ……
    Ana, the right to life is the inalienable right of every human being. The fact that others find it necessary to defend this inherently basic right betrays a disconnect in this realm of government and should serve as a clarion call to action.

    Arroyo’s poodles are making killing fields of journalist and dissenting activist to silence them. If there be any killing fields, it should the other way around to weed out the undesirables in the government. The people must take back their government from Gloria and they have a good fighting chance in a leader personified by Magsaysay Jr.

  27. alitaptap alitaptap

    Soneone says “kaming mga OFW”. Kung totoo ang sinabi mo, dapat suko hanggan langit ang ngitngit mo kay midget. Kung totoong OFW ka, dapat isumpa mo ang nagbusabos sa iyo na paghiwalayin ang pamilya mo dahil wala kang makahig at matuka sa sarili mong bayan. Kung totoong OFW ka, ginawa kang alipin sa ibang bayan upang ipagmalaki ni bansot na ikaw ay export lamang na parang sapatos ang turing. Anong dangal ang makakamit mo na halikan ang puwit ng nambusabos sa iyo???

  28. alitaptap,

    ‘Hwag kang manalig sa ‘bulung-bulungan….’
    Pagkat’t dito sa blog… nagkalat na naman…
    Ang mapagpanggap at asong bakawan…
    Na nagtatanggol sa kanyang ina-inahan!’

    Kung tunay na OFW yang nagpapanggap na yan,
    bakit nakamasid nang tuluyan DITO ang taong nagtratrabaho abroad…Tila naka-monitor ang tinamaan ng kulog?

    arf! arf!

  29. Jun Jun

    Napilitan akon mag abroad noong panahon ni Erap. Noong kay FVR marami kaming project jan sa Pinas pero ng kay Erap nagka windang-windang ang kumpanya kaya napilitan akong mag-abroad. Ito na nga sana ang hinihintay naming pag-asa kay GMA kaso ginagawan naman ng lahat ng kademonyuhan ng oposisyon para di sya magtagumpay. Hwag ninyo akong itulad sa inyong mga oposisyon na mga sinungaling. Walang dahilan para magkasala pa ako sa pagsisinungaling para lang sa inyo ano.

  30. Mrivera Mrivera

    ystakei,

    dati kong kasama si former major emmanuel cayton sa first infantry division headquarters sa jolo, sulu. i was also assigned with the 24th infantry battalion with major general palparan as our battalion commander and in fairness to him, he did the right job in a right time with the wrong administration.

    i left the service out of disgust because what should be the job of local civilian officials were passed on to us while they were sitting prettily in their air conditioned offices, corrupting around and busy counting their loot.
    this is the problem of having the military upholding the supremacy of civilian authority.

    do not get me wrong if i defended the other side of general palparan. i saw him cried when we lost almost all our men in an encounter in patikul, sulu in the late part of 70’s. besides, he was not involved in the election scam in 2004. please don’t get me wrong. am only for the truth.

  31. Hi Yuko,

    No si Marie Enriquez iyon of Karapatan (the one in blue shirt and blue jeans!) I was taking pics…

    Hold on a sec, am on the phone to someone in the delegation asking her about a couple of things.

  32. josephs josephs

    Ignorance is bliss. Ang sabi ni Jun “[Opposition] KAYO ANG TOTOONG PAHIRAP SA BAYAN.” It just boils my blood and because of what he said, ohh the ignorance. Remember, this is a democratic country, or maybe it is used to be. Without any opposition any government will not have a checklist. It would also not have new ideas or revolutionary change to be shared to Pilipinos that they mostly need because of corrupt governments that comes one way or another. Jun wants Philippines to become just a plain simple Hitler’s Germany, or Bush’s America. Ellen and my friend florry should stay and fight the power.

  33. MRivera

    I agree there are good and there are bad soldiers and officers in the AFP; just like in any type of profession anywhere in the world – and thank goodness for that (good soldiers come hell or high water!).

    However, Palparan may be a good officer in time of war but in time peace, he is using his militarity authority with extreme brutality against the ordinary folks in the countryside – and THAT IS COWARDICE. Moreover, he doesn’t even rehash his own statements – what is saying is not making things easy for anybody. He brands those who oppose his commander in chief as the enemies of the state – HE IS WRONG AND HE WAS WRONG! The enemies of the state are those who continue to dishonor the republic!

    I’ve always believed that civilian authority must rule supreme over the military. Unfortunately, the kind of civilian authority we have today is incredibly corrupt so how can the military perform their duty to the nation and to the people when civilian authority uses the military for their own personal purpose, their own agrandisement and to grab and hold on to power to continue to abuse and to control the weak.

    The military dogma is simple: They have a duty to protect the people against the enemies of the state. They have a sworn duty to make sure that peace and order reigns and to battle threats to that order from within and from the exterior.

    But when people vested with civilian authority themselves become the enemies of the state because they use the state power, its armed components to perpetuate abuse and coercion of the citizens of the republic, then the good military must come to the aid of the oppressed.

    The good and the honorable military must use the instruments they know best to defend the weak and the oppressed agains the corrupt and abusive civilian authority because a corrupt civilian authority becomes the enemy of the state – in this order, the military has no choice but to fight and defeat the said enemy of the republic – whoever they may be – honor demands it, honor dictates! And for the sake of the people they have sworn to protect the good military must bring back sanity within the ranks of the republic by defeating the corrupt civilian authority.

  34. Jun Jun

    Ang kikitid talaga ng mga coconut oo. Opposition is good and is very necessary to a democratic country like us. But oppositions also holds responsibility and accountability. You should not just be opposing for the sake of being opposition. In other countries like USA, S. Korea, Japan, etc. oppositions cooperates and even helps the administration if the progress of the country or the betterment of the people is at stake. In the Philippines, the opposition is too narrow minded and selfish. They dont mind if these country will reduce to ashes o kahit na magkanda hirap-hirap ang bansang ito wlang pakialam as long as their evil agenda ay magtagumpay. Yan ang pagkakaiba ng opposisiyon sa Pinas at sa ibang bansa. Gets nyo na?

  35. josephs josephs

    First and formost, who has the “responsibility and accountability,” but the one who holds power. Oppositions whos main purpose is to oppose(duh!), and journalist who tells as it is have the right and duty to critize and question the current policies, their executions and their consequences. This is so changes and improvements can be accomplished. The people that are in power are just people too and could make mistakes. They are not God who will be in power forever. Critism, oppositions when valid and validated by the people of any country will change laws and/or change who is in power. Only then the current government should be responsible and accountable in how they use the privilage of leading the country, and not ruling it. Please don’t bring Phippines back in the dark ages.

    Jun if you don’t mind, please explain when you said “Philippines, the opposition is too narrow minded and selfish. They dont mind if these country will reduce to ashes o kahit na magkanda hirap-hirap ang bansang ito wlang pakialam as long as their evil agenda ay magtagumpay. Yan ang pagkakaiba ng opposisiyon sa Pinas at sa ibang bansa.” Well others countries like the United Kingdom and Canada have parliaments. Do you know what the oppositions do in parliaments? Well everyday and every word in utterance of the opposition is opposing the government one way or another and in so makes a debate out of them. That is why they are called “Parliamentary debates.” So please keep the flame going on and have open debates because they are for the “progress of the country or the betterment of the people is at stake.”

  36. Jun Jun

    Gawain ba ng magaling na Opposisyon ang mag Coup’d eta ng walang mabigat na basehan. Gawain ba ng magaling na Oposisyon ang i exploit ang mga mahihirap para sa kanyang pansariling agenda. Gawain ba ng mga magaling na Oposisyon ang hindi magtrabaho kahit na kailangang-kailangan na ipasa ang batas gaya ng sa terorismo, National budget etc. dahil lang sa mga kunya-kunyariang imbestigasyon. Sabihin mo nga sa akin Joseph gawain ba ng mga taong nagmamalasakit sa bayan yan? Hindi naman sila binabawalang makipag debate ha. Sobra-sobra na nga sa debate kaya wala ng nagagawa. Kaya nga sinabi ko “ALSO” dahil siempre mas may responibility ang nakaupo. Pero di yan makakakilos kung di makikipag tulungan ang lahat. Palagay ko gets na gets mo na.

  37. josephs josephs

    I just don’t recognize the bitch as my president. If I had the power, I’ll just assasinate the bitch. All I know that she made the mockery out of the constitution when she stole it from erap. She also got caught cheating on the election and then apologized, she again defied the peoples choice by staying in power. And then all that corruptions that needs to be look at and debated upon. Again, as a leader of the country, she should be “responsible” about he actions and/or inactions, She should also be “accounted” for every tax pesos she has spent, taken and/or lost. Impeachment is the least that should be done to her. In this case, impeachment is a neccessary so that next leader should be “responsible and accountable.” Or we will get to the endless cycle of a corrupted government. I ask, is that not a worth fighting for?
    “Sobra-sobra na nga sa debate kaya wala ng nagagawa.” That is just absurd because if they can’t multi task then they should not be in office. Plain and simple.

  38. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    To josephs:

    “Without any opposition any government will not have a checklist. It would also not have new ideas or revolutionary change to be shared to Pilipinos that they mostly need because of corrupt governments that comes one way or another.”

    True. BUT WITH THE SO-CALLED OPPOSITION NOW? THEY’RE PLAIN AND SIMPLE DESTABILIZERS. They’re like the US forces that “liberated” Manila in 1945. NAPATALSIK NGA ANG MGA HAPON, TOTALLY DEVASTATED NAMAN ANG MANILA! (bet only a few know that Manila was the second most devastated city in World War 2, after Warsaw in Poland)

    HOW I WISH A COURT CAN IMPOSE AN INJUNCTION ON ANYBODY NOT TO USE “OPPOSITION” IN DESCRIBING THE “UNITED OPPOSITION”. THE “UNITED OPPOSITION” DEGRADES THE WORD “OPPOSITION.” THEY ARE LIGHT YEARS BENEATH THE ONLY TRUE BLUE RESPECTABLE OPPOSITION THUS FAR, THE OPPOSITION DURING THE TIME OF MARCOS.

    YES THEY FOUGHT THE MARCOS DICTATORSHIP. BUT THEY ARE NOT BRINGING DOWN THE COUNTRY WITH THEM IN THEIR FIGHT VS MACOY. WALA SILANG VESTED INTEREST KUNGDI ANG MAPALAYA ANG BANSA SA DIKTADURA.

    EH YUNG MGA “UNITED OPPOSITION” NGAYON? PWE! ANG KANILANG SLOGAN AY “ALIS DYAN KAMI NAMAN”

    KUNG NAKAUPO PA SI ATE GLUE NGAYON, ANG DAPAT SISIHIN AY ANG “UNITED OPPOSITION” DIN!!! SILA’Y MGA ENGOT, MGA BOBO, MGA SWAPANG

  39. josephs josephs

    I do not care for “United Opposition’s,” Alan Peter Cayetano’s, Ellen’s or Florry’s agendas. I thought, I cared for them to have a free voice to debate and in so doing getting responsible open government. If as you say that United Opposition is a complicated monster, even then we cannot give the bitch a free pass.
    And in fact if we can sustain this open debate and freedom of speech, then people can smart enough to filter out who the demons are like the bitch, and the United Oppostion as you have said.

  40. Jun Jun

    Joseph,

    What kind of people are you. Why you didn’t want Erap to be kick out of the office. Gusto mo ba yung presidente na maraming kabit. Presidente na tamad gumgising tanghali na. Gusto mo ba yung presidente na super kurakot. Ginagawang beerhouse ang malacanang. Maybe your are one of the many children of Erap. GMA didn’t stole the presidency from Erap. Nagkataon lang na sya ang Vice president, next in line. What is your proof that GMA cheated? The bogus Garci Tape na dinoktor doktor para palabasing only GMA called to Garci. It is the opposition who cheated according to Enrile and jamby. GMA apologizes only for calling Garci not for cheating. Napakadali ninyong utuin ng oposisyon. Impeachment is not necessary because the evidence is insufficient. Pag-aaksaya lang ng pera yan. In fact maraming bumotong oposisyon last year na against impeachment this year.

  41. josephs josephs

    Is that it Jun? We will not call on the Gloria Arroyo for anything because she did not cheat. Does that make sense? Only, because she did not cheat, we will just brush her actions aside. It does not make sense at all because you want me just to shut up, and all the books to be closed, and no question asked. I thought we already been through that with Marcos. Your point is we shall do it all over again with her. No accountability or responsibility.

  42. josephs josephs

    Speaking of freedom of speech, in the Philippines it’s dead. Why is Arroyo afraid of the Erap movie. If it is a propaganda, then tell it as it is, but not brand it as triple xxx. Those brand are for pussies and things. I did not see a pussy nor dick in that bloody movie. What do you think they are afraid of? Maybe, the truth.

  43. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    To josephs:

    Freedom of speech in the Philippines is dead? Is this blog censored?

    Whoever produced that Erap DVD can upload it on the Internet for everybody to download. That is, if anybody would want to download it.

    Or its producer can discreetly hand it over to the pirates for easy distribution. Whether it would sell or not is another matter.

    I think the only way people would get a copy of it is if it is given free.

    Yes, there is truth in that DVD. The truth that Erap sucks.

  44. Jun Jun

    You are calling GMA because gusto ninyo kayo ang maupo. that is a plain ang simple reason. Allebye na lang yang mga cheating allegations na yan.

    MTRCB is an independent body. Why are you blaming GMA? If GMA dictates the MTRCB to apporoved the movie sasabihin nyo naman diktador. Saan lalagay ang tao sa inyo?

  45. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna,

    maliwanag ang sinabi ko. general palparan did the right job in a right way but in a wrong administration. at any rate, i respect your views.

  46. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna, iisa lang ang purpose ko sa pagbibigay linaw sa aking pagkakakilala sa kanya bilang dati kong opisyal. hindi biro ang mamatayan ng daang tauhang tumutupad sa tungkulin para sa bayan at ialay ang sarili sa kaligtasan ng pinuno. hindi biro ang araw gabing pagsasama namin sa pagharap sa panganib sa mahabang panahon sa liblib at mapanganib na lugar na pugad ng mga kaaway. hindi biro ang mapatalaga sa mga detachments na ang kalaban na ang nagbabantay sa amin kung saan fifty meters away from the perimeter ay danger zones na and i remember yawning comrades targeted by snipers’ fire first hour in the morning. sa ganyan ang ilan sa amin noon ay namamatay.

    out of this, one thing is sure, am not for gloria arroyo,THE WICKED FAKE PRESIDENT!!!!!!!

  47. MRivera,

    I understand! Ellen will tell you that I’m very militaristic and I have great appreciation for the military.

    However, Palparan is one military who would have been good at wartime but in peace time he was a butcher.

    When that happens the good military must rule supreme because the bad military will rot the system quickly, so quick, troopers don’t even have the time to know what hit them.

    But please don’t think that I’m anti-military. I’m not! To me the military is the one component of the republic that COULD eventually stay the course when all things fail, i.e., civil authority corruption and abuse rule supreme. But to do that, they, the officers and men must be BEYOND reproach.

  48. josephs josephs

    Mr. anthony scalia (lol) open your eyes and stop drinking the coool aid or you’ll drown in it. The conniving bitch of a President branded it triple X to take it away from public television and in turn took it away from the majority of the Pilipino people. The movie and its excerpts cannot be viewed by any paper, tv, or radio on the land. So the banning does deservice to everyone. No one can review its merits or lack of it, and the bitch was able to do just that, to shut it down.

    Example without the movie I could not rebut Jun’s claim that “GMA didn’t [steal] the presidency from Erap. Nagkataon lang na sya ang Vice president, next in line.” What a bolony propaganda.

    Here they are Jun:

    “The 1987 Constitution suffered. This happened when the ongoing impeachment trial of President Joseph Estrada, was unceremoniouslt disrupted and discontinued and the issues on hand were brought to the streets. The rule of law was set aside and the rule of force prevailed.”
    Hon Ceclia Munoz Palma(chairman 1987 Constitution Commision)

    “The change of power in the Philippines was no boost for democracy because it was done outside the constitution…”
    Lee Kuan Yew (Singapore Senior Minister The Straits Times January 26, 2001)

    “People power 2 was swift justice indeed as in a lynching, it repudiated the very essence of due process enshrined in the constitution.”
    Time Magazine (Febuary 19, 2001)

    “However, far from being a victory for democracy that is being claimed by leaders of the Anti-Estrada Movement such as Jaime Sin, the evolution of events has been a defeat for due process.”
    Phil Bowring – International Herald Tribune – New York Times (January 22, 2001)

    “This time it appears “PEOPLE POWER” was used not to restore democracy but, momentarily supplat it.”
    Seth Mydans – International The New York Times (Febuary 6, 2001)

    And just think anthony, it is because of the movie, that is why I am here debating. It inspired me because of the image(not the man) it protrays that things could be set right, even if it is in the Philippines. Anthony think again if every Pilipino can see this how much more cries and justice will the whole country seek. And of course as it is neccesary the country should demand that their leader should be “responsible and accountable.”

  49. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna,

    i tell you this not to win your opinion but to let anyone know of what i know about him. general palparan is not the kind of officer the reds are portraying and i also happened to experience that kind of bad image in 1988-89 when i was charged with a crime i was not responsible of during our mission in convincing the mass base and supporters of the communists to refrain from giving refuge to the insurgents. and no offense meant to ellen, this is also because of the exaggerated reporting of the media.

    as what you have said, he should have been good at wartime but in peace time he was butcher. i will repeat, he did the right job in a right way but in a wrong administration.

  50. MRivera,

    You don’t have to win my opinion because my opinion is made long before.

    Palparan served under the wrong administration armed with a wrong objective. In that respect, he failed tactically; and for an officer of his rank to fail tactically, he could have only brought it upon himself. Therefore, he couldn’t have done the job right if his tactic failed.

    I’ve known plenty of guys in the military who were not suited to peace time work. Palparan was wrong all the way through.

  51. Like Boycee Pangilinan, a wily, determined, brave army man; he has the right objectives but the wrong tactics.

    Like Jack Tan, one of the most promising navy captains of his time but buckled under pressure.

    Like Ric Morales, young, mentally agile but a an air force wimp…right objective, wrong tactics

  52. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    To josephs:

    Normally, if a movie is banned unjustifiably, the opposite happens, THE PEOPLE CLAMOR FOR IT AND IT SELLS! The attempt to muzzle “The Da Vinci Code” only helped sell the movie.

    Now, as to Erap’s DVD. It is banned. For you, the ban is unjustifiable. AT FIRST, MALACANANG COULD HAVE UNWITTINGLY HELPED SELL THE ERAP DVD BY BANNING IT.

    PERO WHAT HAPPENED? IS IT SELLING? IS IT THE TOP GROSSER IN QUIAPO, MAKATI CINEMA SQUARE, AND OTHER HAVENS OF “DUPLICATE ORIGINAL FILMS”? parang mga rally ng “united opposition” – NILALANGAW

    HOW COME NOBODY IS CHALLENGING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE BAN? (well baka sooner or later, pero bakit ang tagal? in Ate Glue’s EOs and PPs the challenge in the Supreme COurt was immediate)

    PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT DURING THE TIME OF THE ERAP IMPEACHMENT, ANTI-ERAP MUSIC CDs WERE RELEASED underground. ITS DUPLICATION WAS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED. MAN, THEY REALLY SOLD, LIKE PREPAID CARDS.

    Let’s make a bet. ERAP’S DVD WILL NOT EVEN SELL IN THE SAFE HAVENS OF DUPLICATE ORIGINALS.

    ANO BA KAYO? PARE-PAREHO KAYONG MAHIHILIG GUMAMIT NG “AD HOMINEMS.” MAY ALAM KA PANG “(LOL).” DI AKO PIKON; NAKAKA-FRUSTRATE LANG MAKA-ENCOUNTER NG AD HOMINEMS WHICH REALLY DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE DISCUSSION.

    Saka you said:

    “And of course as it is neccesary the country should demand that their leader should be “responsible and accountable.” ‘

    MY GOODNESS! SI ERAP BA “responsible and accountable”?
    (okay okay Ate Glue is wanting in responsibility and accountability)

    And as to the “unconstitutional” removal of Erap, two views:

    (1) A legal view – The people are sovereign, and ABOVE THE CONSTITUTION. In booting Erap out the people just exercised their sovereignty.

    (2) Ate Glue was a lucky beneficiary of EDSA II, like Tita Cory and EDSA 1.

  53. josephs josephs

    excuse me, people can exercise their sovereignty by voting her in office of the presidency. While Cory was voted in, Arroyo was illigitimate because it was not done in “due process.” So in your definition bitch made an error in stepping down when the edsa 3 happened. Those exercises mocks at democracy and its laws.

    Get on topic and the topic is the Freedom of Speech. By banning it, Gloria abused her power and curtailed Freedom of Speech which is the most precious right of people of a democratic country. Just because Hitler and Erap did it, does not mean she can also break The Freedom of Speech.

    Your putting words in my mouth when you said I called Erap, responsible and accountable. When ever did I praise the man? I clearly stated that I was inspired by the image it potrays, and not the man. I was inspired by the idealistic leader, he thinks that he has become. He surely had come close. Nice propaganda that scared the shit out of that bitch, of who will never come close to the idealistic leader that the movie potrays.

  54. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    To josephs:

    “excuse me, people can exercise their sovereignty by voting her in office of the presidency”

    Excuse me? To refresh your memory – during the height of “Hello Garci” and the Hyatt 10 defection hysteria, there were lots of calls for another people power, FOR THE PEOPLE TO EXERCISE OF SOVEREIGNTY. A SOVEREIGNTY THAT PREVAILS OVER THE CONSTITUTION (according to them). This is even the message of several paid ads, one of which was written by Atty. Frank Chavez. PEOPLE POWER IS OK, because THE PEOPLE ARE SOVEREIGN, EVEN OVER THE CONSTITUTION.

    Well, what happened? The calls for another people power went pfffft. Meaning, the people refused to exercise their sovereignty (of booting out the president) that time.

    My point – for the Philippines, voting is just one exercise of sovereignty. PEOPLE POWER IS ANOTHER. That is, if enough people can be mustered.

    GMA is really lucky. The people are not going out in the streets anymore. Unlike with Macoy and Erap.

    “So in your definition bitch made an error in stepping down when the edsa 3 happened”

    Sorry? Who stepped down at “EDSA 3”?

    “Your putting words in my mouth when you said I called Erap, responsible and accountable.”

    My goodness. I am not putting words in your mouth. I thought you said that the Erap DVD inspired you to expect something from our leaders. I am surprised Erap inspired you to expect our leaders to be responsible and accountable.

    “Nice propaganda that scared the shit out of that bitch, of who will never come close to the idealistic leader that the movie potrays.”

    SI ERAP, IDEALISTIC LEADER ??!! OR YOU MEAN THE LEADER ERAP WAS NOT?

    “I was inspired by the idealistic leader, he thinks that he has become.”

    UNFORTUNATELY FOR ERAP, REALITY IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HE THOUGHT.

    “Get on topic and the topic is the Freedom of Speech.”

    YOU HAVE YET TO REPLY to my earlier query – is freedom of speech dead here? IS THIS BLOG CENSORED? ARE MALAYA AND ABANTE SHUT DOWN? IS ELLEN ARRESTED? IS THE BLOG OF THE BLACK AND WHITE MOVEMENT STILL ON THE BLOGOSPHERE? IS THE INQUIRER SHUT DOWN? JUST BECAUSE THE ERAP DVD IS CENSORED, YOU ALREADY DECLARED FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS DEAD!? PLEASE.

    The controversial EOs and PP1017 were struck down by the Supreme Court. WHY DON’T YOU CHALLENGE THE CONSTITUTINALITY OF THE BAN IN COURT? YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE OF SHAMING ATE GLUE IN COURT.

  55. Mrivera:

    Sorry, I miss your note. My uncle in fact grew up in Mindanao and served there in Mindanao, and was promoted to the highest position in the AFP not by political appointment but by hard work and pure dedication to duty.

    I can understand your feeling. I heard Trillanes when he was telling the media the reasons why they were planting bombs around Oakwood at the time of the mutiny in 2003. I was at the TV studio transcribing transmissions from Manila on that mutiny, told to call up the Oakwood to inquire on the Japanese visitors there, etc. I was actually hoping they would be able to remove the Ale Boba, whom I never supported not that I liked Erap better.

    I feel sorry for the Philippine soldiers as a matter of fact. lalo na ginagawa silang mukhang pataygutom. That really sucks!

  56. nelbar nelbar

    ystakei,

    makisali na rin ako sa usapan nyo ni Mrivera. Tanong ko lang dito, bakit nga pala may mga lugar sa Mindanao na nagkaroon ng maraming Ilokano?

     

  57. josephs josephs

    Like the Cayetano speech on this post, I need for Gloria Arroyo to have her and her immediate family’s accounts shown to the country that she serves. It will make a responsible and open government.

    I came here because Jun was debasing the opposition and its argument for a good government. He wants it stopped and censored.
    Well, I came to see the same tactic that Gloria when she censored Eraps movie. That was why I posted it in this comment.
    And now I see that you are playing the same tactic. However, this time misdercting the simple topic of the neccesity of an open government. You misderected by whether I support Erap, which I never did in this post. Whether Arroyo took the power under the constitution which she did not. Or whether I like Eraps movie, which I did. Or whether you don’t understand lol, which i doubt. Or whether you type in uppercase, which is very rude.

    Or whether to answer your inane question, which i won’t because I am not here to solve the world’s problem. We are here to demand the current Philippine government be responsible and accountable. And not brush it aside, or censoring it, or burying its importance to the future of the country.

  58. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna,

    had it not for the over sensational reporting of the media while focusing only on the other side of the story, truth would have reached the news. (again, i beg ellen’s understanding.) ganito rin ang naobserbahan ko noon when i was still with the task force most especially when i was charged before the human rights commission where my side was not even heard. and speaking of rights, please give me a clear answer – are criminals, especially the killers who are out victimizing innocent and unaware people still entitled to their rights? the terrorists who in no apparent reason but to sow havoc and fear still entitled to have their rights respected?

    what i understand is, and in my own opinion, that there are instances that a person porfeits his own rights when he cannot and does not respect the rights of others when he puts himself above the law. correct me if am wrong.

    and to top it all for you and others to understand, the procedures and tactics applied by general palparan in the special operations mission were already there long before this bogus administration came to power. this black fairy used and rode only on the accomplishments of the units most notably of the 7th infantry division under whom they called “the butcher”. he is much better that any general who rose to fame only because of their sipsip to the couple of evil and their court. it was his accomplishments related to this mission and responsibility that led him to where he left the military service.

    nelbar,

    siguro kaya maraming ilokano sa mindanao especially sa may bandang cotabato at mga karatig dahil sa migration noong una being called the land of promise.

  59. Mrivera,

    I agree: “what i understand is, and in my own opinion, that there are instances that a person porfeits his own rights when he cannot and does not respect the rights of others when he puts himself above the law. correct me if am wrong.”

    I do believe that NPAs who harass and victimize the ordinary countryside folks are equally guilty and must be prosecuted in the same breath that I believe that when Palparan does or did the same, he should be charged for non-respect of human rights.

    Both the tulisans in the NPA and the AFP men in uniform who perform acts that violate the right to life of the ordinary folks must be punished.

    If Palparan was the cdr at the time, he had command responsibility and should answer the accusations against him in the same breath that Ka Roger and his tulisans should face their accusers openly.

  60. I have very little respect for the current AFP leadership. Their performances today have shadowed and continue to shadow their feats and their record of bravoura in the fields of combat when they were field officers.

    They forfeited the respect of the more honorable men and women who once wore or still are wearing the uniform and who served the military with honor.

  61. James Madison(31), the 4th President of the United States, who in August of 1793 wrote:

    “Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”

  62. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    I wonder which is rude, or “ruder”? Typing in all-caps, or using ad hominems?

    I wonder which is fallacious? Typing in all-caps, or using ad hominems?

    Wow, is one person’s significance based on knowing what “LOL” means? ******laughing out loud*******

    So what if I don’t know “LOL”, huh? Would it add value to our discussion if I did?

    If you are offended by my use of all-caps, I apologize. So from now on, in replying to your posts, ill use lower case.

    One request – please avoid adjectives. You called my question “inane.” Well, it takes one to know one. Surely your questions are inane likewise. I never used adjectives towards you.

    Saka you have not responded yet to my post on freedom of speech.

  63. josephs josephs

    That question is so easy to answer. Freedom of Speech is so abstract that it can be defined anyway you or i want, and say its dead or otherwise. However, I will try to define it in an honest way. Freedom of speech, in my definition, is when the messenger freely send his true message to the targetted audience. So I say it’s dead and it was really never alive. It’s dead because the targetted audience is the whole Pilipino people, and the blog can’t reach them because they don’t have access. It’s dead because the targetted audience are poor and can’t buy computer or even buy a news paper. It’s dead because if they happen to read the paper they can’t understand it because either their illiterate or uneducated. It’s dead because the messenger is discourage because of reprisal threats. It’s dead because after the character assasination of the messenger, the message is diminished. It’s dead because the true meaning of the message is obstructed or censored or modified or misdirected to demean it. It’s dead because only the reach and powerful can send their message across.

    Now I answered your question, could you answer mine. Do you agree that if a president hides nothing to the country that she serves, then her government is responsible, accountable, and transparent?

    If you demean my question in any way I have mentioned above then you have not been playing fair and you are a part of killing the Freedom of Speech.

  64. Mrivera Mrivera

    ystakei,

    yung nga ang isang rason kung bakit ako umalis sa serbisyo – para kaming mga patay gutom na maamutan dili ng mga ganid sa gobyerno. marami din akong alam na mga opisyales na ginagamit ang posisyon upang magpayaman samantalang kaming mga mababang ranggo ay halos gutay gutay ang uniporme, butas ang suwelas ng combat shoes, palyado ang baril at bala. kaya nga nasabi kong habang umaangat ang ranggo ay namulat ako sa tunay na kalakaran sa serbisyo. patibayan ng sikmura at pakapalan din ng mukha. ang ideyolohiyang niyayakap ay nagsisilbing agiw sa busilak na dingding ng kawalang kahihiyan.

  65. artsee artsee

    Mrivera, nasa military ka ba noon? Panahon ni Marcos o Cory at saang unit? Tama ang ginawa mo…umalis na lang sa serbisyo. Tulad ka rin ng ilan na hindi masikmura ang mga kalokohan sa loob. Iyan din ang damdamin ng karamihan sa Magdalo group kaya lang ang ilan ay nasilaw sa pera at bumaligtad. May kasabihan na nasa oras ng kagipitan nakikita ang isang tunay na may paninindigan at pagmamahal sa tungkulin. Banzai ! Bakero!

  66. Mrivera Mrivera

    artsee,

    i entered the military service in 1973 during the marcos administration and nobody encouraged me to do so. nanay ko nga noon ayaw na ayaw dahil kainitan ng giyera sa mindanao. mataas kasi ang paggalang ko noon sa mga nakauniporme, sundalo at pulis dahil na rin siguro nasa serbisyo ang ilang mga kamag-anak at kaibigan ko. pero unti unti habang tumatagal nakikita ko ang kabulukan ng iba lalo na ang senior officers maging ilang junior officers din and even enlisted personnel. minsan nga natatawa ako kapag naaalala ko ang nangyari kung saan in-ambush ang kumpare ko escorting a former rebel commander sa harap mismo ng police headquarters sa jolo that was sometime in march 1984. pagdating namin sa scene of incident, wala kahit isang pulis na naglabasan lang nung dumating na kami. kaya huwag kayong maniniwala sa mga true-to-life stories na mga bakbakan na ‘yan, lalo na yung ipinapakita na humaharap at sumasalubong sa bala ng kalaban. kalokohan ‘yan!

  67. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna,

    those are the kinds of esperon, the star suck!!!! i just don’t know if he still wears a delicadesa. can anyone imagine him sporting a four star board on his shoulder while his confirmation to a three star general was by-passed several times? boulder faced and stone dead!!!! nakakahiya pati ang kanyang ninang de buruka!!! awooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

  68. npongco npongco

    Mr. Rivera, may I know your rank when you were still in the service? Did you belong to PC? Who was your CO? Please share something ’cause I may know those whom you know. What are you doing now? I hope you don’t mind my questions. I just want to get to know you better. If you wish, you could go to my private e-mail at npongco@yahoo.com. Thanks.

  69. nelbar nelbar

    Mrivera,

    Ano ang pananaw mo sa Mindanao Republic?
     

    Sa palagay mo, tama ba na mai-split sa dalawa Southern Command?

  70. Mrivera Mrivera

    npongco,

    isa lamang akong enlisted personnel sa army. i was assigned for more than ten years in jolo, sulu with the 1st infantry division. i worked also with someone related to ystakei, former major emmanuel cayton. i knew very well the kind of officer in (now) general danny lim who conquered the most dangerous enemy lair, the mount daho. but before that, i spent sometime in pata island right after the infamous “pata massacre” wherein a company minus of 31st infantry battalion perished in the hands of the rebels. ngayon, nandito ako sa saudi arabia, employed with a construction company as a laborer, pero dahil pakialamero ako eto nauto ko ang boss ko, sa office na trabaho ko and i can use my experience.

    nelbar, mindanao republic? it can be answered this way – kung putulin kaya ang isang kamay mo, masasabi mo bang buo pa ang pagkatao mo?

    it is a just waste of resources to split the southern command. kita mo nga, biglang nag-retire ang current commander. but considering the area, it justifies the split. anyhow, the armed forces hierarchy should have found ways to keep it intact.

  71. M Rivera,

    You must have known or was at some point under Larry Atendido.

    I used to think he was an honourable officer and I hope he still is.

  72. josephs josephs

    http://davaotoday.com/2006/09/16/34-years-since-martial-law-despotism-still-haunts-filipinos/#more-463

    I dare you ask me if freedom of speech is dead. This is not a game when you know that your lord and queen killed 750 activist since she took power in 2001. My god save your soul, but i will kill you and your bitch if I was given a chance. Enough is enough TAMA NA! I am sorry, I wasn’t there to defend them. I’m sorry I just know about it now. I’m sorry I was away for a long time, and just coming back even only in spirit.

    Freedom of Speech is dead when the outcries of 750 oppressed souls aren’t heard.

  73. josephs josephs

    Ang dami dami nang namamatay sa gera sa Iraq. Libo libo ang pinapatay at daan daan na ang tinotorture ng Bush administration dahil lang sa kasugugapaan sa langis at pera. Pero kung kalahi mo ang namamatay kahit na 750 activista lang ang pinapatay nitong puta na presidenteng ito, mas kumukulo ang iyong dugo. Sorry, ngayon ko lang nalaman kasi matagal na ako wala dito.

    And anthony, how dare you ask me if Freedom of Expression is dead?

    Freedom of Expression is dead because the outcries of these 750 brave souls cannot be heard. I wish I can do more.

  74. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna,

    you mean hilario atendido? if am not mistaken he was once assigned with the 4th or 33rd infantry battalion. can’t clearly recall considering the length being out of the military service. if i had my memory right, i may have recommended him for schooling at the army training command when i handled the training section of the 1st infantry division.

  75. You also know Cris Balaoing if you knew Larry because Cris, who was with the Scout Rangers used to be Larry’s boss.

  76. You were not just an “enlisted” man if you recommended Larry for schooling and if you handled the training of the 1st Infantry Division.

    You were either an NCO or a junior ranking officer.

  77. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna, pambihira, ayaw pang maniwala. enlistedman, NCO, iisa lang ‘yun. ikaw naman. do not expect more on me. totoo lang ang sinasabi ko. about esperon? mas matanda sa akin ng ilang taon ‘yan. classmate ‘yan ni general tolentino na kababayan ko at dati ring kasamahan sa 1st infantry division. i also became the first sergeant of the bravo coy, 24th infantry battalion and once its operations sergeant. i worked with general palparan as an instructor of special operations and team tactics classes when he was then a major and as our battalion commander. i left the service after the december 1989 coup for reasons i already stated before and the general (then a colonel) asked some officers and enlisted personnel to convince me to return being an asset to his command but i did stood with my firm decision. hindi kasi sapat ang suweldo ko para matustusan ang pag-aaral ng mga anak ko. pumasok ako sa serbisyo na damit lang ang dala at umalis na wala ring ipinagbago. ni barongbarong hindi ako nakapagpatayo at kahit lupa sa paso wala akong naipundar. what i can proudly say is hindi namantsahan ang pamanang pangalan ng tatay ko.

  78. OK, OK, Soldier!

    I knew what you meant by enlisted and what I wanted to say was not just an ORDINARY enlisted man. NCO ain’t JUST an ordinary enlist.

    Let me tell you that I understand what you were saying about joining the service and leaving it with the same shirt on your back.

    Sadly, many of the junior officers during your time and who are star-ranking or about to be in the star rank are filthy rich.

    Gaudencio Boycee Pangilinan who joined the Army, was 2ndLt while he was in PMA as ADC to PMA Sup Arturo Enrile, was 1stLt in 1994 when he started to become rich, became filthy rich by the time he left Boy Enrile’s side in 1996 with the mere rank of captain then went to the south, got a couple of medals then came back to Army hqs, sought Gloria out through friends sometime in 1999 and got hooked into Gloria’s personal command. He was colonel in 2004 when he was finally tapped by Gloria to head the then defunct AFP Counter-Intelligence Service following Gloria’s insistence that Gen Abu appoint him to the post.

    Boycee and Palparan seem to have been made from the same mould – ruthless, bloody ruthless; their dogma: no quarters!

  79. npongco npongco

    Mrivera, if you were an enlisted man, how could you recommend that guy to schooling and army training? That means you were an officer with authority. Maybe you’re just being humble or don’t want to reveal your identity here. At the very least, you could be in the rank of sergeant. I think at those times, the Army Chief Commanding General was Ramas, right? Before the 1986 Edsa Revolt, I was supposed to be commissioned as Captain in the Reserved Force under the program 36-70. Such program was for civilians who wanted to become reserved officers. My papers were in Malacanang and for final signature when the Edsa Revolt happened. My sponsoring official was Gen. Balbanero who at that time headed the Military Police.

  80. Noel,

    Same difference, enlisted and NCOs, they aren’t officers.

    A sergeant is an NCO and if he’s got the job of an instructor, he can recommend officer trainees to attend higher training courses.

  81. Funny, in western armies, NCOs, particularly the sergeants RUN the army! Officers cannot do without them. They are the souls of any professional army.

    But in the Philippines, sergeants, particularly tech sgts don’t enjoy the same respect that their counterparts enjoy in western armies.

    The Philippine Army will never become a professional army because to them, even the MSgt is not looked upon with great respect.

  82. npongco npongco

    NCO is non-commissioned officers usually pertaining to the highest enlisted rank like sergeant. I was correct but you put it a lot better. Thanks, Anna. Problem with service personnel in the Philippines is that if you’re rich even with a lower rank, your superior even salutes you. Our politicians also abuse their position by yelling and dictating officers. This must stop. These officers are afraid to offend these politicians and government officials for obvious reason. As I said, I was almost commissioned as Captain in the Reserve Force under the Project 36-70. I don’t know if this project still exists today. Many businessmen with connection in the military could be commissioned (most of the time for a fee). Then, the guy gets all the privileges similar to that of an officer. He has the rank, uniform, firearm and even military bodyguards.
    Would you believe most of these in the Reserve Force are Tsinoys who cannot even speak fluent Tagalog?

  83. nelbar nelbar

    Mrivera,

    “what i can proudly say is hindi namantsahan ang pamanang pangalan ng tatay ko.”
     

     
    bilib ako sa sinabi mong yan! ganyan din ang turo ng Tatay ko. Huwag daw ako maglalabas sa trabaho ng kahit anong pako o turnilyo na ikakasira ko.
    Leadman mason ang Tatay ko sa isang construction company(EEI) mula 60’s hanggang 1987. Mas pinili nya na magtrabaho na lang dito na malapit sa amin at maitaguyod sa isang maayos, masinop at malinis na paraan.
    Natatandaan ko pa noong 70’s to early 80’s na patok na patok ang Saudi, at ang mga kapitbahay namin noon ay naging marangya ang pamumuhay sa pamamagitan ng “Tatay/Daddy/Papa ko nasa abroad”.
    Tamang tama naman na nasa 1st year ako noon sa College na magkaroon ng voluntary separation sa trabaho ng Tatay ko at napilitan na rin na magpabayad para sa 20 taon serbisyo.
    Malaki na rin kasi ang rate(daily) nya kumpara dun sa mga baguhan at mga nakapagtapos ng degree noong panahon nya. At isapa, limited education ang Tatay kaya hanggang ganon lang ang estado nya sa trabaho.

    Isang malaking hamon para sa akin at sa Kuya ko na mag “self supporting” ng mga panahong yun, at tatlo kong nakababatang kapatid na babae ang pag-aaralin ng Tatay ko mula High School hanggang College.

    Ang Nanay ko naman ay 14 years na nagtrabaho sa factory ng sigarilyo.

    Ang perang ibinayad sa Tatay ko sa 20 taon serbisyo nya sa trabaho ang ginawa nyang puhunan para sa pagtitinda ng bigas dyan sa Quiapo/Sta.Cruz area.
    Hanggang ngayon ay patuloy pa rin sa paghahanap buhay ang Tatay ko kahit matanda na.
    Nagbibiro pa nga ang Tatay ko sa mga kapatid kong babae na sya daw ang negosyanteng nagtutulak ng kariton.
    Sinabi ko rin sa mga kapatid ko na kapag nakita nyo si Tatay dyan sa Lawton area hwag nyong ikakahiya at sabihin nyo na businessman 🙂
    Oo negosyante , “illegitimate businessman” dahil hindi nagbabayad ng buwis. – – ayan ang madalas naming pagtalunan ng Kuya ko. Ibig kong sabihin, sidewalk vendor na ngayon ang Tatay ko.
     

    Alam mo Mrivera, matalas at malalim ang pananaw ko sa kasaysayan dahil na rin sa kabarkada ko mula pa noong grade 2 ako(kababata). Anak sya ng Ex-army Major at ang tambayan namin noong High School hanggang mga unang taon sa Kolehiyo ay ang harap ng bookshelf ng 30 Volume Encyclopaedia Americana.
    Saka ko na ulit ikukuwento dito dahil oras na rin ng trabaho.
     
     
    hanggang sa muli 😐

  84. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    To josephs:

    “Now I answered your question, could you answer mine. Do you agree that if a president hides nothing to the country that she serves, then her government is responsible, accountable, and transparent?”

    Your premises are wrong. Your yardstick of being responsible, accountable and transparent is ‘hiding nothing’? And thus, if it is ‘hiding something’ its no longer responsible, accountable, transparent?

    Your conclusion that because Erap’s DVD was banned the government is not responsible, accountable and transparent, I called a hasty generalization. I stand by that observation.

    “If you demean my question in any way I have mentioned above then you have not been playing fair and you are a part of killing the Freedom of Speech”

    (there’s that ad hominem again. ***sigh****)

    I have not been playing fair? Well you have made your own standard of being responsible, accountable, and transparent. Anyhting that falls short of that standard of yours is no longer responsible, accountable, transparent. To you.

    I am a part of killing the freedom of speech?

    Can you still read your posts here? Can you still post here?
    Is this blog still operating?
    Is Ellen arrested for her anti-GMA remarks?
    Have ystakei, anna, npongco et al sued for libel?
    Have Malaya and Abante gone the way of the Daily Tribune?
    Are rallies in freedom parks (where no permit is needed) banned?

    So is freedom of the speech dead here? Yeah, right. If I can only enjoy my freedom of speech 99.9% of the time its as good as dead.

    “And anthony, how dare you ask me if Freedom of Expression is dead?”

    Yes, I dare you.

    “Freedom of Expression is dead because the outcries of these 750 brave souls cannot be heard. I wish I can do more.”

    O, naiba na yata ang premise mo. Hindi na ‘hiding something’ ang proof of being irresponsible, unaccountable, not transparent”?

    Saka how sure are you that the 750 souls were killed by the administration? Because you got the info from this blog? Oh please. Be sure to check your information, as obviously you have been fed by propaganda.

    In a recent forum on channel 2, involving a Bayan Muna rep, an AFP rep, and a former NPA, the former NPA said that the CPP-NPA is just as involved in purging (killing comrades) and killing so as to put the blame on the government.

  85. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    oops, minor correction :

    “And anthony, how dare you ask me if Freedom of Expression is dead?”

    Yes, I dare.

  86. Mrivera Mrivera

    npongco,

    i was then the one in-charge of the training section, office of the assistant chief of staff for personnel and responsible for checking the academic records and backgrounds of the recommendees, kaya ako ang gumagawa ng recommendation letters to be signed by the commanding general not that i was the one who send officers and enlisted personnel to schooling and training.

    I also remember former major eleazar elardo said,: “ang alinmang unit sa army ay magpa-function kahit walang mga commissioned officers, pero walang unit na tatakbo kung walang key enlisted personnel.”

    anna, gaudencio pangilinan? why, he was also formerly assigned with the 24th infantry battalion for a while. ganun na ba siya kayaman ngayon? kunsabagay, medyo iba nga ang obserbasyon ko sa character niya noon. medyo may kaya. yes, kayabangan. i also remember when he once said: “kung magsusundalo din lang, bakit hindi pa opisyal”. sobra niyang minamaliit kaming mga ordinaryong sundalo kaya hindi nagtagal yun sa batallion namin dahil marami sa mga tauhan niya ang may sama ng loob sa kanya. with his attitude, wala siyang karapatang magtagal sa serbisyo being a good example of general garcia’s kind – CORRUPT!!!

    glad also i was not awarded the medal that would have paved the way for my combat commissionship as 2lt which was denied for selfish reasons of the hierarchy of the 7th infantry division (not under general palparan that time). wala silang pakialam kahit isubo namin ang buhay sa panganib matupad lamang ang misyon na silang mga nasa itaas din ang makikinabang bilang bahagi ng accomplishment in a major responsibility ng mga heneral.

  87. M rivera,

    Gaudencio Boycee Pangilinan ay boss ng AFP Counter-Intelligence Service na dating defunct at revived na ngayon (just before Abu retired).

    Maraming may sama ng loob kay Boycee sa service dahil mayabang at magnanakaw. Noong sa AFP GHQ siya sa office ni Gen Boy Enrile, maraming nanakaw iyan. Noon pa nga lang na 2ndLt siya sa PMA (ADC kasi ni Gen Enrile doon) siya ang may hawak ng mga contrata para sa logistics doon, pati iyong mga bathrobes at tuwalya ng mga cadets may tubo siya!

    Heheh!

  88. At tama ang sabi mo, ““ang alinmang unit sa army ay magpa-function kahit walang mga commissioned officers, pero walang unit na tatakbo kung walang key enlisted personnel.”

    Dito, ganyan ang palakad ng mga armies dito sa Europe.

    Ang sgt major ng British army is one of the foundations of the UK army!

  89. Nelbar,

    I know EEI quite well.

    Two of the guys who used to work for me came from EEI, Rene Buenaventura and B Castaneda. They were with the machines division (I think).

  90. josephs josephs

    “Your premises are wrong. Your yardstick of being responsible, accountable and transparent is ‘hiding nothing’? And thus, if it is ‘hiding something’ its no longer responsible, accountable, transparent?”

    I knew that just right after I submitted it, loser. It took you two days to figure it out, stupid. What? Did ask your mommy from some help? Until the end, you won’t admit that there is something wrong with your ruler queen. Unitl the end, you would not agree to any scrutiny to her bank account. Until the end you are switching the facts, you are the propagandist, not the truth. So why would anybody here believe any word you say. I hope you are just a stooge, and don’t have anything to do with their deaths, or you deserve what’s coming to you. Babye, see you in hell.

  91. All the time, Josephs. I’ll post the article for Sept. 21. Thanks.

  92. Josephs,

    Just read the articles in the links! Fabulous find.

    I like Promdi’s articles…

  93. I’m glad I posted the link before I shot my mouth off. And thank you, Ellen for cutting them out. People here basically knows how I feel, but you are the only one how I really feel. 😉

    From wikipidea, where the only two definitions/quotations that’s appropriate and I like:

    “Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech.” Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media (1992).

    “The principle of free thought is not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought we hate.” US Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes in United States v. Schwimmer (1929).

    (You have to love Noam Chomsky. If you don’t like him in a bit you’re not a friend of mine. 🙂

  94. I keep bumbling on my post. “you are the only one WHO KNOWS how I feel.” That is because I don’t have a mommy that helps and hold my hand, like a poster here that I know. 🙂

  95. nelbar nelbar

    Oo Anna, EEI panahon ni Ducat at Payumo.

    Sabi ng Tatay ko maraming mga taga EEI na Kapampangan na nakapag Saudi noong panahon na yun.

  96. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    To josephs:

    “I knew that just right after I submitted it, loser. It took you two days to figure it out, stupid. What? Did ask your mommy from some help? Until the end, you won’t admit that there is something wrong with your ruler queen. Unitl the end, you would not agree to any scrutiny to her bank account. Until the end you are switching the facts, you are the propagandist, not the truth. So why would anybody here believe any word you say. I hope you are just a stooge, and don’t have anything to do with their deaths, or you deserve what’s coming to you. Babye, see you in hell”

    AY PIKON, AY PIKON, AY PIKON, NYEH NYEH NYEH NYEH NYEH. PIKON PIKON PIKON. OH MAN WHAT A CRYBABY!!!

    (at least you acknowledged that YOU’LL GO TO HELL FIRST)

    REMEMBER, IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE. SO YOU’RE LIKEWISE A STOOGE, A LOSER; YOU’RE JUST AS STUPID.

    MAY TAWAG ANG PSYCHOLOGY DYAN, INFLECTION. WHAT IS REAL IN YOURSELF, YOU WANT TO SEE ALSO IN OTHERS!

  97. Mrivera Mrivera

    anna, just wondering. mas marami ka pang alam kesa akin sa mga dati kong kasama. even ric morales, the commanding officer of the unit na hinawakan later ni danny lim. perhaps santi baluyot, santi prejido, abe purugganan, alex tan, ronnie velasco, boyet pereyra (my relative) from the marines, and maybe others more.

    npongco, i think project 36-70 was about the commissionship of the advanced ROTC cadets into the reserved force, right?please wait for my mail.

  98. soleil soleil

    mrivera..as u said, mahirap ang labas ng mga hindi sumisipsip..my uncle, the bro of may mom, was also in the army during the 60s bt he was commissioned mstly sa bicol area…i am nt aware if he was ever in the mindanao area as i was still in my elementary days…jst would see him time to time visiting my mom in his uniform. i rmmber people gapping when they see a uniformed man who is tall and dark due to the history of battles written in their face…anther nephew is also in them marines ryt nw bt i hav no news lately..the last i heard frm him was during the last stand-off in fort boni…
    yes, nakakasuklam talaga ang situation that our junior officers and lower rank are going through…while the rest are wallowing in their mansions…i personally feel that being a soldier is a very noble and personal calling like being a priest or a nun..bt sad to say,i wonder why all these has to come to a rotten degree…the ideologies and hopes in the hearts of young soldiers are tears that we people here can only pray for them when they go for a battle that they are doing bec for the love of country and serving his country…

  99. soleil soleil

    again i will say..dito sa atin..wala ang dignity dignity…to the politicians, dignity is for the dogs or for the trash (kawawa naman mga aso lagi damay tuloy…i love dogs pa naman, dog ang chinese sign ko)

  100. soleil soleil

    anna, u knw a mr lino de vera?…i thnk EEI is also part owned by yuchengco now if i am nt mistaken….

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