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Void for vagueness

Adel Tamano, who gave the Genuine Opposition last election a good-looking image as its spokesman, must be a hit as a classroom teacher.

I saw him work wide-eyed students of UP Manila last Friday during a forum on the Human Security Act (R.A. 1372) organized by the UP Political Science Society.

Adel cited several reasons why R.A. 1372 is unconstitutional and one of these is the doctrine of “Void for Vagueness.” He said: “The definition of what constitutes terrorism is so broad and all-encompassing that the ordinary citizen would have no idea, hence no legal notice as required by our right to due process, of what specific acts constitute a violation of the law.”

Translating the doctrine of “Void for Vagueness” in a language understandable to the students, Adel recalled the time he was at a loss understanding why his girlfriend (he is now married, also to a lawyer) was sulking. It turned out he forgot it was their second-week anniversary.

He connected with the students!

Adel cited other provisions of the Constitution that Gloria Arroyo’s HSA undermines: right to bail, right to travel, right to free speech, and for removing safeguard mechanisms in the imposition of martial law.

Aside from Adel and myself, other speakers in the forum were Francis Capistrano from the office of Sen. Mar Roxas and Atty. Sarah Lou Arriola, special projects director of Ateneo Human Rights. Sarah was with the office of Sen. Jamby Madrigal at the time the HSA was being deliberated in the Senate.

Roxas, Madrigal, and Sen. Serge Osmeña didn’t sign the US-initiated anti-terror bill.

Sarah said that in the guise of fighting terrorism, the HSA threatens our civil and political rights. Those rights include the “right to rebel.”

She enumerated the dangers of this HSA: (1) it threatens the right to privacy because of the power of government to wiretap and look into bank deposits of a suspected terrorist; (2) it creates a “chilling effect” since it will suppress legitimate dissent; and (3) it threatens the security of person since one can be detained for a minimum of three days without charges.

Sarah said the HSA is worse than the already repealed Anti-Subversion Law. It will eventually encroach upon the freedom of association. “If abused, the Anti-Terrorism Law will give rise to disappearances, extra judicial killings and incidents of torture,” Sarah warned.

Francis explained the reasons why Roxas didn’t sign the HAS. But now that it’s there, Roxas has issued a statement urging the administration to first address the operational gaps among key departments like defense and foreign affairs and investigating agencies “before implementing a stringent HSA that could fall flat from the lack of public support, or run wayward in the hands of misguided law enforces or faulty and inadequate intelligence and information systems.”

As a journalist, I’m particularly concerned about Sections 6 (Accessory) and 7 (Surveillance of Suspects and Interception and Recording of Communications) which I believe violate my rights to privacy and freedom of expression enshrined in the Constitution.

If, for example, the information that I would write causes people to take to the streets to demand the ouster of Gloria Arroyo, would that fall under “sowing and creating a condition of widespread and extraordinary fear and panic among the populace…” which is included in the law’s definition of terrorism? Would I then be an accessory to an act of terrorism?

A journalist’s role is to convey information to the public, as accurately as his reporting skills will allow him. That information would hopefully help the people in making choices. Those informed choices hopefully would lead to better government.

R.A. 1372 will surely hamper journalists from performing their role of bringing accurate information to the public. It will keep the public from being informed.

When you keep the public in the dark about the truth, you keep them ignorant. You prevent them from taking control of their lives. You prevent them from improving their lives. That, I think, is the more serious form of terrorism.

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72 Comments

  1. artsee artsee

    Pansinin niyo ang HSA, binanggit na naman dito na US initiated bill iyan. Samakatuwid, may kinalaman ang US sa bagay na iyan. Ang US ang may utak at sunod-sunoran na naman ang kawawang Pilipinas. Ang tanong lang naman: Makakabuti ba ang HSA sa mga Pilipino o sa Amerika lang (siyempre pati Malacanang)? Kapag umiral ang batas na iyan, malayang makakagalaw at ikot ang mga sundalong Kano at CIA sa buong Pilipinas gamit ang dahilan na tumutulong sila sa pamahalaang Pilipinas na sugpuin ang terorismo. Pag nagkataon ay matutulad tayo sa Afghanistan at mga bansang magugulo na ang nasa likod ay mga dayuhan tulad ng Amerika. Huwag naman magalit ang mga Amboy at Amgirl dito na batid kong marami ang nasa Ellenville. Pero dapat buksan niyo ang inyong mga puso at isipan at aminin na ang Amerika ay may dalawang mukha. Makikialam at gagawa ng paraan iyan basta sa ikapapakinabang nila at hindi palaging dahil sa mahihirap na bansang tulad ng Pilipinas. Saksi ang kasaysayan natin ang pakikialam at pagpapahirap ng mga dayuhan sa atin. Hanggang ngayon ay patuloy pa iyan kaya lang sa isang paraan na palalabasin tumutulong sila.

  2. xanadu xanadu

    Adel Tamano is a communicator and his manner of connecting to his listeners as the spokesman of the GO candidates in the last elections is one of the plus factor that contributed to the debacle of Gloria’s boys. He made mincemeat of his counterpart in presenting the issues through the media. Nowadays, we need the likes of Adel Tamano for us to fully understand the burning issues like the HSA. If his appearance before the UP students is an indication of his growing popularity by espousing the evils of the HSA, we could expect Adel to be most sought after speaker on the topic and it is good.

  3. xanadu xanadu

    With the enumerated danger of the HSA including the apprenhesion of Ma’m Ellen as a journalist, our legal luminaries should lost no time in filing a case with the Supreme Court on the question of its perceived unconstitutionality.

    It’s clear from Ma’m Ellen’s perspective that the implementation of the HSA is an imminent threat to the Freedom of Expression.

  4. artsee artsee

    Kung tumakbo si Adel noong election, baka nanalo din siya. Pero balita ko puro Ingles ang salita niya at hindi masyadong marunong ng Tagalog. Para tanggapin ka ng buo ng masa, dapat bihasa ka din sa Tagalog lalo na’t pulitika ang papasukin mo.
    Malakas kasi ang Tagalog region. Isa pa’y ang relihiyon ni Tamano. Muslim siya. Maraming bawal sa Muslim pati na ang pag-inom. Mahirap ito sa isang pulitiko sa atin. Makikibagay siya kahit laban sa kanyang paniniwala at pananampalataya. Sana manatiling oposisyon si Tamano. Kapag kumalas siya tulad ni Dingalen, isang malaking bawas na naman sa hanay ng oposisyon.

  5. artsee artsee

    Ang HSA ay isang tagong “emergency power”. Binuo iyan sa tulong ng Amerika. Hindi puwedeng hindi pag-usapan ang US kapag mga kontrobersial na batas ang talakay. Sa maniwala kayo’t o hindi, ang lahat na iyan ay kailangan may basbas o signal ni Uncle Sam. Isang mapait na katotohanan pero iyan ang tutoo.

  6. xanadu xanadu

    Among others, the blogs will be under siege. The bloggers can be held responsible for its comments as what we are doing now.

    It’s how I decipher on the concern of Ma’m Ellen when she mentioned the particular provision in the law which calls for “Surveillance of Suspects and Interception and Recording of Communications”.

  7. chi chi

    The most that is undermined by HSA is the freedom of speech. Because there is no parameter as to the definition of HSA, every pinoy who opens his mouth or write bringing the public the truth about this trapolita will be a terorist and subsequently tried and jailed for gloria’s pleasure.

    Now, gloria impakta has stolen from Mugabe the title of suppressor.

  8. chi chi

    …suppressor of political opposition and masses.

  9. chi chi

    Is there already an Implementing Rules to his HSA ni gloria?

  10. artsee artsee

    Matagal nang minaman-manan itong blog na ito pero naging matatag pa rin tayo. Kahit anong HSA hindi masisindak si Ate Ellen. Kung dadamputin nila tayo, ako ang mauuna at di ako takot. Subukan lang nila !

  11. gwaping gwaping

    the question is, who among our opposition senators signed this bill into law? pimentel for one has been talking a lot about the flaws of the HSA but unlike mar roxas, serge osmena & jamby madrigal why did he sign it in the first place? smacking hypocrisy.

  12. chi chi

    Hmmmnn…Senator Pimemtel signed HSA?!

  13. “why did he sign it in the first place?”

    I guess Pimentel’s decision to sign it was tactical – he was responsible for trimming the shitty provisions that Enrile and his gang of double crossers had put in the original bill.

    To Pimentel, who didn’t have the numbers to bury the bill, he preferred a bill that wouldn’t be as punitive as Gloria and her dos wanted it. There are enough flaws in it to question it – even our fellow blogger/commenter, a neo-con par excellence who taunted the HSA as a fantastic “gift from God” is now so frustrated and is now attacking it left, right and center because he says it is so flawed it’s useless. At the end of the day, Pimentel did us a favour.

    I think, this HSA is a useless piece of crap – it was meant to please Gloria and her hound dogs but at the end of the day, anybody could kick the HSA in the teeth because of those vague generalities. But don’t let your guard down – Gloria is a vermin and will whip you with it if you’re not looking.

  14. You bet, Anna, whether he likes it or not, Senator Pimentel had to sign it, but after making some revisions to the original one. I would rather that he did not, though.

    The culprit here is not Senator Pimentel, but the crazy unano who is not implementing it because it is good for the Filipinos but she and her cahoots are making sure that they would be the first ones to benefit from it.

    One difference, though, Anna is that when they pass such kind of important law over here, we do not leave the voting for or against such law to our representatives. We are given the chance to vote directly for or against such law.

    On the other hand, I don’t remember the public being consulted well by Abe when he created the Ministry of Defense, and it has contributed to his sudden unpopularity.

    Now, he is replacing the first Minister of Defense with a former newspaper lady. In short, kawawa talaga ang mga pilipino. Pekeng president inaalisan na sila ng karapatan sa totoo lang. Pati boto nila binababoy as “Hello Garci!” or “Dayana Zubirini.” Tindi talaga!

  15. artsee artsee

    Huwag sana may magagalit na panatikong tagahanga ni Pimentel, pero tama ang tanong niyo bakit niya pinirmahan? May mga hakbang si Nene noon na hindi masyadong maganda tulad noong pag-akyat niya sa stage sa panunumpa ni tiyanak hawak pa ang mikropono. Ang dahilan (o palusot) niya ngayon ay ginawa niya iyon ayon sa ikabubuti ng bayan at kanyang konsensiya. Pero kung ako siya na Senate President pa man din noon, hindi ko gagawin iyon delicadeza man lang. Pag-upo ni tiyanak, inaasahan niyang gagawin siyang Bise ni tiyanak pero ibinigay kay Guingona. Tapos, hindi din niya nakuha ang Senate President. Doon ang umpisa ng pagtira niya ng husto kay tiyanak at hanggang ngayon ay nananatili isa sa mga matatag na taga-oposisyon. Kayo na po ang humusga. Kahit pa sa sarili niyang bayan ay humina na din yata ang impluensiya niya. Di ba natalo pa nga si Koko nang tumakbong alkade? Sa isang banda, kahit na si Lacson ay pumirma din sa HSA. Sa tingin ko hindi issue kung sino ang pumira, ang issue ay kung anong nakasaad sa binagong batas na maaaring iba sa unang sinulat. Iyan ang dapat natin alamin.

  16. Yuko,

    I was also surprised to learn that he signed it but I’m putting it to tactical objective more than anything.

    He tore the original bill into pieces so in that sense, he rendered the current law useless. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s what neo-cons are screaming about too… the fact that Pimentel rendered the HSA almost useless.

  17. Re “Di ba natalo pa nga si Koko nang tumakbong alkade? ”

    Ganoon ba? Mga tanga rin ang maraming Pinoy voters ano?

    Pero pag artista, boto kaagad nila o kaya kung gangster pareho ni Pineda, ok sila… tsk, tsk, tsk!

  18. gwaping gwaping

    “At the end of the day, Pimentel did us a favour.”

    i dont read from the above’s post that ellen is thanking pimentel for that “favor”. what i read is apprehensions of a journalist.

    at the end of the day, it remains to be seen if those flaws will be favorable to the people or to gloria.

  19. Agree, “at the end of the day, it remains to be seen if those flaws will be favorable to the people or to gloria.”

    But Pimentel is not the author of the bill nor the sponsor…So in effect, it’s not Pimentel who should be in the line of fire but those who wanted it so badly.

    I think we should re-calibrate our attack lest it backfires.

  20. artsee artsee

    Tactical…iyan ang tumpak na dahilan (o palusot) sa mga palpak na ginawa ng ilan. Lahat naman ng bagay puwedeng bigyan ng palusot. Pero sa tutoo lang, kay Nene na ako kung sa ibang pulitiko lang din. Wala pa akong narinig na malaking iskandalo o corruption na ginawa ng pamilyang Pimentel. Pero sayang si Nene. Gusto man natin siyang itulak sa pagka-pangulo, matanda na.

  21. The enemy is not Pimentel last time I heard but Gloria and her cabal of dogs.

    Don’t mess up the defence front – bad strategy.

  22. artsee artsee

    Walang nagsabing kaaway si Pimentel. Ang pinag-uusapan kung tama o mali ang mga hakbang at ginawa niya noon. Iyan ang isang dahilan kung bakit hindi diretso ang buhay pulitika niya at pati ang anak ay na-apekto. Pero kung ako ang tatanungin mo, siyempre sa kanya pa rin ako basta manatili siya sa oposisyon. Wala tayong pagtatalunan sa bagay na ito.

  23. Take the HSA the other way around or as Ellen said, “void for vagueness” – use the defects in the law to hit back Gloria and the enemy instead of blaming Pimentel, that’s what I say!

    You don’t win a war by messing up with your front line officers.

  24. “Walang nagsabing kaaway si Pimentel. ”

    Well, am glad to hear that. Mine is to re-calibrate the issue. Pimentel is not the issue here, or is he?

  25. Artsee, also my earlier response was directed to Gwaping when I said:

    “Take the HSA the other way around or as Ellen said, “void for vagueness” – use the defects in the law to hit back Gloria and the enemy instead of blaming Pimentel, that’s what I say!

    You don’t win a war by messing up with your front line officers.”

  26. artsee artsee

    Nakakasiguro ba tayong nasa front line ang mga iyan? Anong defense? Paanong magkakaroon ng isang matibay na defense kung patuloy na watak-watak ang oposisyon? Huwag natin tratuhin na pagbatikos kay Pimentel ang mga analysis na ginagamit natin. Kung bagay constructive lang naman. Kung bibigyan ng kulay at kahulugan, diyan kung minsan nag-uumpisa ang alitan at away. Basta eto lang ang tandaan niyo sa wikang Ingles: You are entitled to my opinion.

  27. Artsee,

    Re “Huwag natin tratuhin na pagbatikos kay Pimentel ang mga analysis na ginagamit natin.”

    There’s nothing wrong with batikosin si Pimentel – but nothing wrong either with re-calibrating the batikos.

  28. “Basta eto lang ang tandaan niyo sa wikang Ingles:”

    Right! Use the defects in the law to hit back Gloria and the enemy instead of blaming or batikosin si Pimentel, that’s what I say!

  29. artsee artsee

    Ay salamat, nabanggit na ni Ate Anna ang pangalan ko kahit hindi sa pamamaraan na pagbati. Iyan lang ang hinihintay ko.
    Si gwaping ba ang tinutukoy mo? Duda ako sa kulay ng taong iyan. Pero tutoo ang mga sinabi ko tungkol kay Nene at pulitika. Sa puso ko ay wala akong hangad maliban ang magtagumpay ang oposisyon at mawala na ng tuluyan itong si tiyanak sa mundo. Naghahanap nga ako ng paraan para ma-contact and magaling na magician na si Criss Angels at pakikiusapan na gawing uwak o ipis si tiyanak.

  30. artsee artsee

    Ano ba ang re-calibrating the batikos? Giyera na ba? Hindi ba ang calibrating iyon calibre ng baril o armalite?

  31. Not only baril o armalite – pati eroplano, kailangan i-calibrate.

  32. gwaping gwaping

    backfires against whom? like going the way of escudero, cayetano, villar & jinggoy? then, he is not worthy.

    again, why did roxas, osmena and madrigal did not sign the bill? they are not the sponsors either, right? clearly, each one has the prerogative to say no. as matter of principle, why would you sign something that you’re not in favor of? the fact is, he was influenced by the lobby groups. lacson with a military mind will sign it. but pimentel championing human rights? it’s unthinkable as to ka satur ocampo fixing his signature on it.

    “Pimentel is not the issue here, or is he?”

    ang masasabi ko lang, batikusin ang dapat batikusin.

  33. artsee artsee

    Gwaping, sang-ayon ako sa iyo pero hinay ka lang sa paglabas ng opinion dito. Igalang natin ang bawa’t isa. Kung minsan kasi, nagagawa ang isang bagay o napipirmahan sa akalang ikabubuti ng nakakarami. Iyan ang nasa puso ng gumawa sa mga sandaling iyon. Eh palpak pala kaya masasabi natin nagkamali.
    Ang dapat gawin ng mga nagkamali ay magpaliwanag sa taong bayan kung bakit sila pumirma ng mga sandaling iyon. Halimbawa, ang kuwento ni Pimentel kaya daw siya nasa stage at hawak ang mikropono dahil nagkataon siya ang pinakamalapit kay tiyanak. Pangit naman kung si Cardinal Sin pa ang humawak ng mikropono. Pero hindi maganda ang dating sa tao ang ginawa ni Pimentel di ba? Pero kung iyon mismong natanggal na si Erap pinatawad na si Nene, tayo pa kaya?

  34. Re: backfires against whom? like going the way of escudero, cayetano, villar & jinggoy? then, he is not worthy.

    Maybe you’re right, maybe you’re absolutely right but maybe you should ask Pimentel why or why not but my emphasis is hit Gloria – am not interested in bleeding Pimentel today, as far as I’m concerned, it’s Gloria’s head that I want on the silver platter. If it takes Pimentel to do that for me – fine with me.

    As I was saying, don’t mess up with your front line officers, at the moment, Pimentel is one of the few you’ve got. If you want to lose the war, then go that way.

  35. artsee artsee

    Tama din. Iilan na nga lang ang natitirang tunay na taga-oposisyon, hindi pa natin pagbibigyan ang ginawang kamalian noon kung tutoo man mali. Pero kung may titulong “Ano ang tunay na Terorista?”, sana may isa din ang pamagat ay “Sino ang Tunay na Oposisyon?”. Siguradong magandang talakayan iyan.

  36. Already the Opposition’s very split in the Senate. The way things are going, Gloria is winning.

    Time to re-cablibrate, ask Pimentel the questions you think need to be answered but the bottom line is don’t show the enemy there’s a crack and that it’s widening – she will eat you alive.

    Blogs like Ellen’s are almost the last line of defence given that battle configuration, we should hit those that must be hit, without any let up. It will work coz it’s seen to be working but first thing first: focus on firing away at Gloria and the bandits. The bloodletting should start there.

  37. I repeat: … it’s Gloria’s head that I want on the silver platter. If it takes Pimentel to do that for me – fine with me.

  38. artsee artsee

    Alam na ng kaaway, sina tiyanak, na magulo at watak ang oposisyon. Kung tayo alam natin sila pa? Ang isang malaking palaisipan sa akin ay kung bakit nagkaganoon si Jinggoy. Hindi puwedeng hindi alam ni Erap at walang basbas niya ang pinaggagawa ni Jinggoy maliban na lang na humihiwalay na si Jinggoy sa tatay dahil parang mas mahal ng tatay si JV. Iyang problemang pamilyang Estrada ang isa din hadlang sa oposisyon.

  39. Artsee, I think Jinggoy’s aim to is to neutralize a possible guilty verdict – but only a haka haka.

    I’ve never been a fan of Jinggoy just as I am not a fan of Gloria’s piggy Mikey Pidal but his volte face in the direction of Pimentel doesn’t mean he’s no longer in the Opposition although I think his loyalty to his father is thicker than “water running” in the Opposition.

    When the dust has settled down, I suggest we put all those vermins where they belong, in a snake pit.

  40. Ooops, Mikey Pidal but his volte face in the direction of Villar doesn’t mean…

    OK, good night folks. Time for an eyeshut.

  41. artsee artsee

    Mas gusto ko si JV kesa kay Jinggoy. Sa pagkatao at lamig ng ulo, lamang si JV. Masunurin pa sa magulang at kay Erap si JV. Biruin mong umatras sa pagka-senador. Kung tumakbo iyan siguradong panalo. Si Jinggoy pikon, barumbado, palaaway. Pero nang lusubin siya ni Chavit Singson sa senado ay nagtago ang anak ni Erap. Malaking balita ito at nakakahiya. Kaya lang naman kampi ako kay Jinggoy ay dahil anak siya ni Erap at taga-oposisyon. Pero kung ipagpapalit niya ang prinsipyo sa ipinaglalaban ng oposisyon para lang kuno ma-neutralize ang hatol sa kaso nila, ano ang ipinagkaiba niya sa ibang mga pulitiko?

  42. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    The composition of Anti-Terrorism Council (ATC) is causing alarm. Norberto Gonzales and Ronnie Puno may have hidden agenda. Norberto is the founder and chairman of Partido Demokratiko Sosyalista ng Pilipinas (PSDP) while Ronnie Puno is the KAMPI chairman. The political opposition is accused of destabilization. The military and police intelligence units may equate destabilization as act of terrorism. As expected, DOJ chief Raul Gonzalez can manufacture evidence and false witnesses against Arroyo critics. They can determine and decides the act of terrorism and who are terrorists. In fact, there is no universal definition of terrorism. The ATC assumes the responsibility for the proper and effective implementation of the anti-terrorism policy of the country. Do you trust the three Arroyo stooges?

  43. chi chi

    Ka Diego,

    Patay na ang Pinas kung ganyan ang composition ng ATC. Tapos ay si Asspweron pa ang nasa frontline na taga kidnap, murder, torture and pananakot sa madlang pipol.

  44. cocoy cocoy

    Anna and Artsee;
    After seeing you both putting for berdie on a sudden death, both of your linkster were smoking, A right clubs, long drives and closest to the pin.

    Fore! Let me hit my tee-shot with my Taylor Made driver.

    Yes, this is the opposition consequent problem, of course! This current scenario also encourage a widespread belief, a dangerous illusion, in my view it is still possible to regroup this opposition through a rigid rehabilitation to actually defeat the despotic regime of Trapolita.

    We here at EllenVille, must boost our consciousness about the disasters and turndown and think about the danger regarding the injectiragatory effect of this unconstitutional treatment of Human Security Act to our people it is cruel and inhumane. Some opposition senators must do their part against formidable challenge and must keep a cool head in condemning this Pandakikay ”hegemonism”. Our corollary boosting national cohesiveness could the suppression of dissent, particularly politically incorrect views. We must all be ready for the warning and punishment that Esperon’s executioner may impose on us, but it will augur a prolong period of ideological control in the interest of promoting unity thinking to spark a revolution.

  45. Spy Spy

    We know how incompetent and abusive our security forces are… like making arrests and searches without warrant; arbitrary and illegal detention of suspects mostly are govt critics; forcible entry/violation of domicile; burglary; worst of all is the extra-juducial killings and forced disapperances.

    All of these are happening even before the implementation of the HSA!

    HSA is a comfortable excuse of gluria’s incompetence at the expense of the people’s basic rights.

    But who are the real terrorists anyway?

  46. I understand since he knew that the Arroyo administration would ram through the Human Security Act by hook or by crook because of US pressure or maybe because he was also pressured by the US, Pimentel tried to put in all kinds of safeguards to make the law unimplementable if you really stick to it by the letter.

    Si Enrile naman, just to pass the bill, which was a commitment to who knows,just accommodated all of Pimentel’s proposals.

    Kaya in the end, Pimentel had to sign.

    I don’t know why Lacson signed but given his police background, I understand.

  47. You asked teh right question, Spy:But who are the real terrorists anyway?

    Gloria Arroyo and company!

  48. chi chi

    With gloria, HSA is implementable even without implementing rules, afterall she has been terrorizing the citizenry since she stole the presidency not once but twice!

    Naisahan na naman n’ya ang magagaling na politiko. Kawawang ordinaryo at militanteng pinoy!

  49. Anna:

    Problem with Koko when he ran for a position in his father’s hometown, they were actually just depending on the popularity of the Senator there, but his son was virtually an unknown. He did not grow up in his father’s hometown and I am of the impression via write-ups by Ducky Paredes that he was practically not acquainted nor known by the people there. And that’s what the Dayana manufacturers have used in discrediting Koko and his chance to win. Pero kung sa pagandahan ng asawa, maganda ang asawa ni Koko kesa kay Dayana. Miss Philippines ba iyong asawa niya?

    Dirty politics, you bet! Too bad for the Pimentels, they could have more faithful followers if they lived in the Ilocos, from whence the Pimentels originated. Kundi nakaupo nang matagal si Koko. Look at the Marcos’ children! Hindi matinag.

    Proud to be part Ilocano as a matter of fact!!!

  50. There is actually nothing wrong about passing a law to insure public safety and security against terrorists, who do not actually need to be Moslems! The existing laws of the land in fact should suffice if they are being followed to the letter.

    Otherwise, they are useless laws, and in the case of the laws and executive orders passed and signed by the criminal at the palace by the murky river, they are all for hers and her cahoots’ benefit! Rather unthinkable as far as I am concerned, for over here, no law can be passed without being carefully screened by the Japan Federation of Bar Associations and the public who may or not benefit from those laws.

    Public awareness here, Ellen, is really that incredible, and I’m glad to be part of the system here and feel really useful as when I join these forums, rallies, etc. to insure even just my own personal stability and security. Never heard of critics here going to jail for telling the truth. Journalists, et al go to jail only when they are proved to have committed perjury, libel and all those acts categorized by law as criminal.

    If the Poohtah starts ordering journalists, critics, et al to be arrested and jailed by using this stupid Human (as opposite of animal) Security Act as an instrument of oppression for telling the truth about her Mafioso administration, it definitely calls for another “Cry of Balintawak”!

  51. Anna: I’ve never been a fan of Jinggoy just as I am not a fan of Gloria’s piggy Mikey Pidal but his volte face in the direction of Pimentel doesn’t mean he’s no longer in the Opposition although I think his loyalty to his father is thicker than “water running” in the Opposition.
    *****

    I think Jinggoy must still think he has an ax to grind with Pimentel for not acquitting his father in his impeachment trial in 2001. But then, he must remember that it was Villar who did the much worse damage to Erap, when he stood on his table waving the Congressional verdict to dump Erap in favor of the power grabber.

    Please madala naman sana ang mga pilipino sa mga katulad ni Villar. Iyan din ang masusunog sa impiyerno sa totoo lang.

  52. artsee artsee

    Ang asawa ni Koko ang kilala ng pinsan ko noong dalaga pa siya. Mabait naman daw. Si Koko may puna ang mga tao; kulang sa PR at medyo mukhang suplado. Sa pulitika, dapat marunong ka makipaglaro at makisama sa media at tao…dapat laging nakangiti. Tungkol naman sa HSA, buti nabanggit ni Ate Ellen na may kinalaman ang US diyan. Kaya nga ang sinasabi ko, basta gusto ng US ay nakukuha nila. Matatagalan pa bago makawala sa tali ang Pilipinas sa US.

  53. artsee artsee

    Nabanggit din lang si Villar. Akala niyo ba malinis iyan? Mismo siya inamin na galing siya sa mahirap mula Tondo. Paanong biglang umunlad ang buhay niya? Pinasukan daw ang real estate at diyan siya umasenso.

  54. Spy Spy

    It is undeniable that U.S. Govt has a hand in this HSA. This uncle sam is imposing its will upon nations in the world in the name of Democracy (sic!) and yet they are supporting gluria’s tyrany.

    don’t we know the U.S. Govt is the most organized terrorist grp in the whole world? Even American citizens recognized that.

    We can be truly independent and survive as a nation without U.S. Govt intervention.

    (i am against U.S. Govt rigid foreign policy, not its people)

  55. gody gody

    re : “Not only baril o armalite – pati eroplano, kailangan i-calibrate”

    Di kaya mas maganda kung ung utak at itim na puso muna ni bruhang demonya gloria ang i-calibrate natin?

    Nag papa chek up kaya si gloria artsee? o tama na ung asspirin na binibigay ni assperon !

  56. parasabayan parasabayan

    In a struggling country like the Philippines where politics and leadership are in turmoil, the HSA will just again be another weapon of the incumbent to suppress the citizenry. It is like giving a machine gun to known terrorists(tiyanak, asspweron et al).
    Certainly, the HSA is crafted to please Uncle Sam. This would be another gadget for the tiyanak to tighten up her grip to her stolen presidency, by using this against her perceived enemies.

    The HSA should be challenged and the Supreme Court should fine tune it!

  57. gody gody

    kahit anong batas, ilang batas at butas at kung ana2 pang batas dyan ang gagawin para sa sinasabing kabutihan ng bansa wala na tayong pag-asa pa hanggat si demonya gloria ang reyna ! tandaan nyo yan mga kasama.

    ay naku ! ellen, sana nga di tayo ipadampot lahat d2 ni gloria dahil sa kanyang HSA. pero pag nag kataon na ginawa nya un, handa akong sumama sa inyong lahat.

  58. Mrivera Mrivera

    those around gloria deserve one another because they fit each other’s shoes.

    they all belong to same league!

  59. Mrivera Mrivera

    pumirma sina pimentel at lacson sa anti terror bill upang matanggalan ng pangil ang nasabing batas subalit hindi nila nakita ang mga ngipin ng piranha na ipinalit nina tiyanak!

  60. gody gody

    para naman bagong isyu sa inyo ang US intervention sa ating bansa. sila nga ang nag aalok ng tulong pra tuluyan ng madurog ang mga terorista db? syempre million dollors ang budget para sa batas na yan, alangan hnde tatanggapin ni bruhang gloria at ass-peron !

  61. cocoy cocoy

    The blame who signed this bill doesn’t matter, what matter is who are the people will suffer? They’re not concerned with individual rights. They have different set of values, Just playing political games. The problem is that HSA that go through in times of political crisis will oftentimes be taken to the extreme abuse of power. But, a humongous problem. everyone can be consider as a terrorist if we voice our dissatisfaction against the crimes and corruption committed by Trapolita’s regime.

    If being arrested or abducted, you have to prove that you are not a terrorist, you have to prove that you are not a member of an organization that sponsor terrorism. And that’s hard thing to do if the interrogator force you on a Russian roulet. To them the definition of terrorism is so broad that many of us would have been open to intense interrogation. Belonging to a Party List Party of activism can consider a terrorism. Telling the president that she is ugly can consider a terrorism. This bill provides a whole lot extra powers to the police and men in uniform to arrest anyone. It is an unprecedented abuse of human rigths.

  62. Mrivera Mrivera

    sa kasaysayan ng pilipinas, ang bumubuo ng pamunuan ng gobyerno ni GMA (gloria mukhang aso) ang maituturing na pambihira sa lahat. naipon ang iisang uri at kulay ng mga hayop na kay sarap alagaan sapagkat busugin lamang ay buong among tatalima sa anumang pakulo na gustong palabasin ng kanilang tagapag-alaga’t amo, si d(em)onya gloria.

    pambihira din ang uri ng pamamalakad ng “marangal” na hindi hinalal na pangulo sapagkat mas gusto niya sa kanyang alaga ay mas bulok pa ang pagkatao kaysa kanya. mas umaalingasaw sa kabulukan, mas katanggap tanggap para kay d(em)onya gloria. palibhasa nga ay iisa ang uri at kulay kaya silang lahat ay magkakasundo at walang away. sa sarap ba naman ng pagpapakabundat ng bawat isa at pagpapasasa sa kaban ng bayan, aba’y sino pa ang bibitaw sa pagkukunyapit sa kapangyarihan?

    laging parang piyesta. sagana ang kanilang dulang. habang milyon sa ating mga kababayan ang hindi kumakain ng kumpletong tatlong beses sa isang araw, silang mga masisiba’t walang kabusugan ay hindi alintana ang paghihikahos ng mga taong dapat sana nilang paglingkuran. subalit, hindi. manhid na sa kawalanghiyaan ang kanilang pakiramdam. bulag na sa pagkasugapa ang kanilang mga mata at bingi na sa taginting ng salaping nagbibigay kasiyahan sa kanila.

    hindi nila alintana kahit buhay pa sila’y sinusunog na sa impiyerno ang kaluluwa. mariringal ang kanilang kaanyuan subalit bulok na’t inuuod ang kalamnan. bawat buka ng kanilang bunganga ay alingasaw ng kabulukan ang malalanghap. bawat kumpas ng kanilang kamay ay malikmata ng salamangka ng katiwalian ang mamamalas.

    ganyan sila noon hanggang ngayon at hindi na magbabago lumain man ng panahon!

  63. Mrivera Mrivera

    ang gawang tiwali at likong asal
    asahang ang bunga’y halahak na bahaw
    walang pagsala sa paglikwad ng araw
    hungkag ang kasiyaha’t ang utak ay lugaw!

  64. gody gody

    cocoy, a simple analysis : HSA was planned & prepared by the “queen of lier gloria arroyo” with the blessing of bush administration against every principled individual fighting for true democracy and justice. kasi ayaw ni bruha sa mga taong may prinsipyo at tapat, gusto nya kagaya nyang sinungaling pra hnde ka nya ipakulong.

    that’s the only and only main purpose i can see here why she rushed-up to put into law this act ” her republic act ” (para sa kanya lng) to give her more power & do whatever she wants and that she will be able to cover all her wrongdoings unacceptable to humanity starting fron a conceived baby (fetus)…

    mamatay ata ako sa hi-blood sa bruha na yan. mnsan nga muntik ko na mabasag ung tv namin pag nakikita ko pag mumukha nya na kapag nagsasalita ay akala mo natutuwa ang mga taong nano-nood sa kanya sa mga kayabangan nya.

    cguro tapos na ngaun ang SONA, baka nabanggit na nmn nya sa mga rebelde ung paborito nyang phrases na ” isang bala ka lang ” or ” dudurugin ko kayong lahat ” or ” wala na kayong tatakbuhan “. lintek na animal sa yabang na bruha.

  65. Mrivera Mrivera

    “ang gawang tiwali at likong asal
    asahang ang bunga’y HALAKHAK na bahaw
    walang pagsala sa paglikwad ng araw
    hungkag ang kasiyaha’t ang utak ay lugaw!”

  66. rose rose

    Malabo talaga para sa akin itong HSA na ito. And who signed and who did not sign..for me is tapos na. There is nothing I can do about that..My concern now..is how will this affect my rights? Will I be able to say, write or express my concerns? Sa pagsusulat natin dito at ang nasabi ko ay tayo na mga kapatid sugod na at nagkataon na sumugod nga ang mga tao sa Pilipinas..pasalamat ako at matutuwa lalo na kung naitulak at nahulog yung nakaupo sa palasyo am I guilty of inciting? Ang dilim na nga sa Pilipinas. But in that darkness we can still light a candle..it is better to light a candle than to curse the whole darkness..hindi ba?

  67. chi chi

    Rose,

    Kapag akmang dadakpin tayo dahil sa HSA, takbo ka dito sa amin at hindi tayo makikita ni trapolita sa bundok, at saka protected tayo doon ng rednecks na sasabihan kong putulin lahat ng paa ng mga tauhan ni glueria. We will be on the higher grounds, this time. heheh!

  68. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Starting 3AM yesterday, this site was unavailable. I gave up at around 7:30AM. Insecurity Acts ng security forces ni Pandak. Oh, well…

    ——

    Artsee says: “Paanong biglang umunlad ang buhay niya? Pinasukan daw ang real estate at diyan siya umasenso.”

    Artsee, pagmimina ang pinasok ni Villar. Nakahukay siya ng ginto sa minahang ang pangalan ay Cynthia.

    ——

    PSB: “It is like giving a machine gun to known terrorists(tiyanak, asspweron et al).”

    To me, it is like entrusting shabu to Gloria the addict.

    ——

    AdeBrux: “I think we should re-calibrate our attack lest it backfires.”

    Very true. I’m imagining this dude trying to snipe peeping through the barrel with his thumb in the trigger.

  69. Valdemar Valdemar

    Good news! they cannot implement the HSA. Every lawyer can earn easily from the P0.5M daily compensations of detainees at the rate our courts are bungling justice.

  70. Mrivera Mrivera

    valdemar,

    they will not legally implement the human rights suppression act, my friend.

    they will execute it extra judicially.

  71. gusa77 gusa77

    Any country will never,never prosper and attain prosgress when the learderships compounding the problems instead of finding solutions to it.Ph.D in ECONOMY,is lady bedbug,out of her “vacuum” mind,applying the law of supply and demands implementing HSA,due to the voice of majorities,about the abuses,injustices and violations of rights granted by the constitutions, you will impose a law that never fit on those problems.HSA requires more authorities and law enforcer to implement the law,so creations of employments for crooks, lowlife criminals , blackrobe attire scambugs and justification of words collector from horses mouth.Nice to see a person dying of stomach ache, giving a first band aid treatment on the head w/o wounds.Madam,I believe you, about Philippines would be one of richest in the world in 20yrs,no need to wait,we are the richest on problems from poverties,corruptions,abuses and extrajudicial killing,educational qualities.

  72. Tongue’s I’m imagining this dude trying to snipe peeping through the barrel with his thumb in the trigger.

    Heh! That’s the problem with many pro-Gloria snipers! They shoot themselves in the foot even before they start sniping away…

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