Breaking news.
Fifteen Marines died in Basilan today – five officers and ten enlisted men.
The officers who died are so young.
Lt. Salvador, PMA Class 2005.
Lt. Loperaz, PMA Class 2006
Lt. Sumera, PMA Class 2006
Lt. Solorin, PMA Class 2006
Lt. Pinera, PMA Class 2006
I don’t have the sixth name yet.Marine Lt. Salvador, is number 7 in PMA Class 2005 and number one in the Philippine Navy. Let’s pray for them and their families.
Let’s pray for our country.
ABS-CBN update:
4TH UPDATE) 15 Marines, 42 ASG killed in Basilan fighting
Fifteen troops and 42 Muslim extremists were killed Saturday in clashes between government forces and al Qaeda-linked rebels on the southern island of Basilan, ABS-CBN News Channel reported.
In a phone interview over ANC, military spokesman Lt. Col. Bartolome Bacarro put the death toll at 15 soldiers killed while seven soldiers were wounded after Philippine Marines launched an attack on a camp of the terrorist Al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG).
Bacarro also confirmed that among those killed in the Abu Sayyaf side was Umair Indaman, also known as “Abu Jihad”. Indaman is a suspect in the beheading of 10 Philippine Marine troops last July 10.
Bacarro said that the Muslim extremist Abu Sayyaf suffered about 30 wounded or dead but a military official in Basilan said as many as 42 members of the Abu Sayyaf had been killed.
According to Bacarro, the army casualties belong to the 64 Force Reconnaissance Company and Force Reconnaissance Class 13. He also confirmed that officers were among those killed but declined to give the number of dead nor their names because their kin have not been formally informed.
Bacarro also told ANC that government troops found the Abu Sayyaf camp Friday night and launched an attack at 6:25 a.m. Saturday. He also said that fighting between troops and the extremists is still ongoing.
Media blackout
Details of the incident remained sketchy because of a media blackout imposed by the military on Basilan, but the sources said the gunbattle on the outskirts of the town of Unkaya Pukan turned into close-quarters combat.
“The enemy suffered a lot of casualties. We are still trying to get the exact number but their casualties are heavy,” Maj. Eugene Batara, regional military spokesman, said.
“The offensive is continuing,” he told reporters in Zamboanga City.
“The Armed Forces will press the fight,” said Bacarro.
The media blackout on Basilan was imposed amidst a military build-up in response to the death of 14 Marines in a July 10 ambush. Ten of the Marines were beheaded.
That attack was blamed on the Abu Sayyaf and members of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), a group which is negotiating peace with the government.
The MILF, which signed a ceasefire with Manila three years ago, admits that their forces ambushed the Marines but insists this came after the soldiers intruded into MILF territory. It has denied beheading them.
Bacarro said that “the operation was undertaken in coordination with the local government units and MILF in the area.” He did not elaborate.
Since the July 10 ambush, the government has been pouring forces into Basilan for a likely offensive against the extremists.
The Abu Sayyaf has also stepped up their operations in other parts of the south. In Jolo island, near Basilan, 26 soldiers were killed in attacks by the Abu Sayyaf and rogue members of another Muslim rebel group, the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) from August 6 to 10.
Troops have also been sent to Jolo but there have been no reports of new clashes there.
More than 12,000 soldiers are in Basilan and Jolo for possible assaults on the Muslim extremists.
Worst attacks
The Abu Sayyaf have been blamed for the worst terror attacks in the Philippines. The group has been linked by intelligence agencies to the al Qaeda terror network.
The US embassy and Philippine military say US Special Forces troops are providing intelligence and training in the hunt for Abu Sayyaf and other militants on the islands of Basilan and Jolo.
Between 100 to 500 US special forces troops are deployed in the southern region of Mindanao and islands along the Sulu archipelago including Jolo, according to intelligence sources.
Opposition lawmakers have alleged the US troops are involved in direct combat operations against the militants in violation of the Philippine Constitution. Both Manila and Washington have denied the claims. With a report from Agence France-Presse
This calls for “insubordination” to the crooks who are sending these soldiers to their deaths. It can be done as a matter of fact. Israeli soldiers have done it, and so did/do their mothers, wives and daughters. I should know. My group in Tokyo have been in contact with those women opposing wars. Modern men are supposed to sit down and talk not make wars if they cannot make love especially among brothers.
Oops, it should be “insubordination against the crooks!”….
ohh my god, very disgusting ! it has been told by assperon that basilan has been secured!
assperon, you better hang yourself now ! or your own soldiers will tore you into pieces ! you better watch out ! idiot general !!!
let’s just pray for these poor soldiers, nothing we can do right now.
Lt. Salvador, PMA Class 2005.
Lt. Loperaz, PMA Class 2006
Lt. Sumera, PMA Class 2006
Lt. Solorin, PMA Class 2006
Lt. Pinera, PMA Class 2006
very fresh graduates of pma…ano alam nila sa muslim guerilla tactics..last may when the proclamation Gov. Sakur Tan and Congressman Arbison, i was so shocked …kasi parang coup ang dating, palabas ako ng gym nagulat ako sobrang dami ng mga militar, nakita ko andun si Col. Rasul, anak ni Sen. Santanina Rasul she was there recruiting for new batch of PMA.. now how could we get new recruits in our elite academy ? sinong magulang na ang papayag na mag-aral at pumasok sa pma ang mga anak kung para dalhin lang sa mindanao at ibungad sa kamatayan?
the increasing number of casualties in the government troops is not anymore a “realities” in war as earlier told by assperon. these are mere negligence,incapability,and incompetency, and lack of reliable intelligence.
This must be so frustrating to the incarcerated marines (Gen Miranda, Col Querubin, Col de Leon, Col Banez, Col Segumalian et al) to see their men being slaughtered for no other reason but for a bogus regime to gain control of Mindanao through their annointed gang( is it the MILF this time?).
This Asspweron deserves to be hanged or better still butchered to pieces! He should be dismembered to pieces to avenge the lost lives of our soldiers! Grabe na talaga! HELP!!!!!!
dito talaga biglang kumulo ang dugo ko, pagkabasa ko palang yong headline nanginginig na ako.
How many more Filipino soldiers have to die in Basilan-Sulu quagmire? Many young lives have been lost in a senseless and reckless war. Enough is enough. These are soldiers of the Filipino people who die because they are ordered to fight a senseless war. We mourn the senseless death of young officers and men and innocent civilians killed in the crossfire.
Biazon and Trillianes should start the probe on this war before it is too late. Too many lives lost to just gain control of Mindanao!
AK47,
kaw nababasa mo lang kumukulo na ang dugo mo,,..what more yung nakakasalamuha mo..sabi ko nga dun sa isang blog ko sa kabilang thread…nung nakasabay ko sa C130 ang mga batang sundalo na walang alam sa pupuntahan nila at naririnig ko pinaguusapan nila di ako makakibo kasi nararamdaman ko yung nararamdaman nila, may nagsabi pa, “makakauwi pa kaya ako ng buhay sa magulang ko?”
dapat talaga magkaisa na ang buong kasundaluhan at kaladkarin na ang mga walang pusong gloria at assperon. wag nang antaying maubos ang mga sundalo sa walang saysay na kamatayan.
Wrong, AK-47! Filipinos can do a lot if they want to, but the problem is that they have been brainwashed to think that they cannot do anything without US help, etc. etc.
It is in fact a defeatist attitude that the idiot at the palace by the murky river and her Internet Brigade has been posting in blogs such as this that the truly concerned bloggers here should actually ignore and do as they are dictated by their conscience, and yes, by common sense!!!
Of course, they will not know unless they try doing what others have already done as what some daring Israeli mothers have done, even encouraging their sons in the Israel military to defy their leaders if they are wrong. In the Philippines, what they have there now are criminals defying the law, even commit crimes to get to their positions and stay as in the case of the short woman who has not only cheated but has committed treason and sedition to usurp her position from a duly elected president not just once but twice, etc.
Sabi nga, there must be a beginning to anything! 😛
My condolence to the families of the dead soldiers. Pero dapat hindi sila sumunod sa mga hayop na pekeng lider nila!
gokusen,
grabe na, sobra na eto, hinde eto katanggap-tanggap. malamang dadami pa yang mamamatay na sundalo (wag naman sana) nakakaawa na sila. iba ang kulo ng dugo ko ngayon, biruin mo namang mga bagitong PMA soldiers ang sinabak nila sa gyera.
ystakei says:
“Wrong, AK-47! Filipinos can do a lot if they want to, but the problem is that they have been brainwashed to think that they cannot do anything without US help, etc. etc.”
reply: you’re absolutely right ystakei, but the problem is no one among from the AFP at this moment who are supposed to lead a ” death march” to oust the idiot general esperon and evil president gloria because the brave and principled men are yet in jail!
AK-47: no one among from the AFP at this moment who are supposed to lead a ” death march” to oust the idiot general esperon and evil president gloria because the brave and principled men are yet in jail!
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Sinabi mo pa AK-47. All the more reason, however, for them to rise up against these crooks. Bigyan natin sila ng encouragement through this blog. OK!
Sabi nga, pag na-trap na sila ng husto, baka matauhan na sila. Siguro naman mag^-iisip na silang hindi nila puedeng ipain ang mga sarili nila. Ano sila gunggong na alam na nga nilang mamamatay sila at tila sinasadya pang ipapatay sila, arya pa rin sila? Diyos mahabagin naman!
ystakei,
hindi na ako makatawa ngayon sa sobrang galit ! dapat talaga kumilos na ang mga tao ngayon.
hnde paba sapat na leksyon sa mga sundalo natin yong unang nangyari sa basilan? at eto nagpakamatay na naman sila!
This is a very critical phase of AFP’s, or even the govt’s, stand in Mindanao. They have to finish them now because if they won’t, there would be misconception that even after the gov’t has sent their FULL FORCE or at least an overwhelming number of troops against the limited number of bandits, still they are not able to finish them, people would think or worse the int’l community would think that the AFP cannot really finish them and these lawless groups can just continue their savagery in Mindanao. The AFP and the gov’t is becoming a laughing stock because of what is happening now. This is getting way, way serious! Remember, it just all started with the “search” for Fr. Bossi.
unti unting nauubos ang mga batang opisyal na siya sanang magbabangon muli ng dangal ng sandatahan lakas na minantsahan ng pagiging suwapang ni espweron.
bumabaha na ng dugo ang lupang pangako. ibinubuwis ang buhay alang alang kapayapaang ang nagwawasak ay ang mga ganid na namumunong walang iniisip kundi pagtakpan ang kanilang katiwalian.
sa mga naiwang kaklase ng mga opisyal na ito, GUMISING NA KAYO!! huwag ninyong hayaang lubugan muli ng araw ang mga kawalanghiyaan ng sa inyo ay nagpapain sa walang kabuluhang pakikipaghamok hindi sa mananakop na buhat sa labas kundi sa kapwa pilipino. kapatid sa dugo bagama’t hindi sa pananampalataya. anumang pagkakaiba, pilipino pa ring parepareho! pinaglalabanlaban upang maibaling ang pansin ng sambayanang pilipino.
hanggang kailan magiging bulag ang mga kawawang kawal sa pagsunod sa baliw na pinuno ng hukbo at huwad na pangulo?
AK-47,
sabi ko naman sa yo darating ang time nila…at maraming taga basilan at sulu na kapag nakita nila na may tatayo para sa kanila susunod ang mga yan..malalaman ng buong mundo ang pagsasabwatan at pag gamit nila sa milf sa plano nilang kaguluhan..kaya nga ibibigay ni gma ang ancestral domain eh…regalo sa milf kahit man lang sa salita may nasabi si gma pang palubag loob sa mga ito…
re -This is getting way, way serious! Remember, it just all started with the “search” for Fr. Bossi.
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its part and parcel of their plan…
Mrivera,
may bagong palabas na naman sila…mag recruit ng mga sasama sa “integration” para unang ipain sa kapwa muslim…
Ms. ellen,
Na crossed sa mind ko ulit yung mayor na nakaligtas ng patayin siya sa polling place and it was Hajarun Hamjari habang bumoboto siya nung May. 14, tapos namatay yung isang tauhan niya at isang follower, dating mayor siya ng Tuburan na siyang mother municipality ng Akbar..yung nagtangka sa kanila si Hambal na miembro ng abu at kasama sa personal bodyguard ni Wahab Akbar..
Paki halungkat mo lang kung sa partido ni Gerry Salapuddin kasama si Hamjari…
Kaya naniniwala kami wala si Hamjari sa Basilan na nag=produce ng pictures ni Father Bossi.At during negotiations wala siya sa Basilan at kasama siya o may alam talaga siya sa pagkidnup kay Father Bossi…na isa siya sa nag mislead sa information na nandun nga si Father Bossi…
gokusen,
ikaw ang isa sa mga inaabangan kong tetestigo kapag naumpisahan na ang investigation sa AT4 expose. malaki at buo ang tiwala ko sayo.
Ms. Ellen ,
pahabol baka yung 130 na names na andun sa warrant of arrests eh names ng grupo ni Karam yung personal army ni Wahab Akbar, idagdag pa yung 2 grupo , grupo ni ruth ismael na pamangkin ni akbar na may 50 armadong members at Nasser Puyo na may 15 armed members din..meron silang malalaking gamit mortars at iba pa…kaya dahil sa pagtanaw din ng utang na loob ni gma eh binalik yung warrant of arrests..o baka yung mga yun din kaya ang may gawa ng pagkamatay ng mga batang opisyales ng sandatahan ng pilipinas…
Ak-47,
basta di lang ako makasama sa “damages” makikita mo ko kasama sa magsasabi ng “totoo” …
“may nagsabi pa, “makakauwi pa kaya ako ng buhay sa magulang ko?”
gokusen,
lahat nang napapadestino sa jolo, patricularly noong 1970’s and 80’s ay ganito rin ang sinasambit. ang kaibahan lamang namin noon, before troops were dispatched to front lines especially the newly commissioned officers and recruits, they were made to undego combat training and terrain familiarization unlike these days na para silang mga ipinapain ng mga hayup na pamunuan sa kapwa nila hayok na mga buwaya.
Why is there no US soldier killed or wounded? Because the GIs are in their command posts dictating the operations. Another Afghanistan in the making…
If we base it on the ratio: 4,500 government troops against 150 Abus, the number of soldiers/officers killed against those of the enemy indicates the government side is losing. While the poor soldiers are risking their limbs and lives, Arroyo’s Generals are in their air-conditioned offices drinking hot coffee and monitoring the war.
Thanks for publishing the names. I was wondering why the AFP is not releasing the names of the soldiers who died serving our country. Publishing their names would make us realize that there are indeed faces/human beings behind those casualty statistics and make us properly grieve for them. Thanks again.
“More than 12,000 soldiers are in Basilan and Jolo for possible assaults on the Muslim extremists.”
assuming the reported 42 abu sayyaf killed this morning are confirmed to be a “real abu sayyaf”, then the estimated ASG left from the previous 150 as being reported would now be 108. hence, the ratio now becomes 1/111 ??? (1 abu sayyaf as against 111 soldiers !).
in philippine history, there was no any other general like “general assperon” (sir, I salute you with my two feets !) as far as “war” is concerned ! his intelligence, bravery, and warfare tactics & strategies is outstanding ! and probably be googled soon in the world “non-guiness book of records” !!!
gokusen,
sana naman hinde kami mabibigo sayo. isa ka sa mga pag-asa namin at pag-asa nating lahat para malaman ng buong mundo ang katutuhan . I’ll pray for you my dear friend.
goji says:
“Why is there no US soldier killed or wounded?”
goji, so far there was no order from “bush” that at least one of his forces be killed in the ongoing gunbattle in mindanao. i guess gloria is just waiting his orders !!!
Gaya ng nauna kong komento ukol dito sa pagpatay sa mga sundalo. Nagmula ang mga sundalong ito kung saan saang mga probinsiya at hindi pa nakararating ng Mindanao. Natural talagang matotodas lamang sila doon. Kapag nagsagupaan na hindi nila alam kung saaan ang tamang puwesto para makabentaha sa labanan, putok na lang sila ng putok ng walang direksiyon habang pinanonood sila ng mga kalaban. Isipin mo yung graduate ng 2006 dadalhin mo sa Mindanao, anong gusto mong palabasin. Naalala ko yung kwento ng isa kong kaibigang marines na nadestino sa Mindanao noong panahon ni Marcos na nasa kasagsagan ng pakikilaban sa MNLF. Nasakote ang grupo nila sa isang lugar na hindi nila kabisado at natural ng magputukan na kung saan saan naggagaling ang putok pakiramadam niya ay nasa loob siya ng isang kuwadradong kulungan na pinupuntirya ng mga kalaban. 25 ang bilang nila ng magsimula ang laban, apat lamang silang natira ng dumating ang saklolo galing sa kanilang kampo. Ang dahilan ng kanilang pagkaubos, pagkaraan ng mahigit na kalahating oras na putukan,,, sampung metro na lang ang talsik ng bala ng kanilang M-16… Talagang mamatay sila doon.
GMA/Gen. Esperon: Oh! they are so young sirs. Why do they have to die so young to satisfy your own personal interest? Bakit hindi kayo ang mamumuno at sumama sa laban? Bakit? Bakit? To GMA- we all know that you were not duly elected..nangagaw ka lang..To Gen. Esperon- how did you get to be a general? Were you ever awarded for valor and bravery? It is useless and a waste of time to appeal to your conscience or to your sense of justice..you don’t have any–halimaw talaga ang katulad ninyo. Are you?
Sending a division strenght against a platoon or a company of enemies in numerous cells is a classic booboo in modern warfare. Instead of specialized, highly trained units hunting them with back up support. Now the casualties is heavy on the government troops because of the ineptitudes of the high command. while the Military is quessing the enemy’s casualties, theirs is certain, more than 50 young soldiers, most have to see their first child yet.
I can’t help but cry at this news. At this stage the best we can do is to pray for them and those they left behind..their families. May mga anak ba? But I believe that in our darkest moment God is watching and helping us.
When we are at our weakest moment He is there to give us strength..hindi ba “our cause is just, in God we trust”? Let’s keep our trust and faith in Him..
Gokusen: we will pray for you and I look forward to meeting you someday..I am pretty sure many of us here in Ellenville would like to meet you..
Ano ngayon ang masasabi ni Villar, Honasan, Joker Arroyo, Angara, Enrile, Escudero, Cayetano, Pangilinan, Jinggoy and the rest of Gloria’s fans club? I almost forgot..FVR and Renato de Villa, what sayest thou sirs? And si JdV- general amnesty to those who killed the soldiers? political crime ito kasi kinalaban nila ang reyna..Kung mga ito ang pinadala sa laban..these would have been the names in the death list and casualty list..Did I hear them say..Hail to the cheat!
Dios ko naman ! Nakakaiyak just reading the names of the fallen soldiers. As If that was not enough, ABS-CBN also reported on its blog that “Lt. Col. Epifanio Panzo, PAF spokesman, said the MG-520 helicopter plunged into Bubuan Island, south of Basilan, around 5 p.m. Panzo said the Philippine Navy has rescued the two injured helicopter crewmen and retrieved the body of the unidentified pilot. They were brought to the headquarters of the 1st Marine Brigade in Basilan. the wounded pilot has been identified as a certain Captain Calupiran. A report from Agence France-Presse said that Air Force chief Lt. Gen. Horacio Tolentino denied earlier reports from military sources that the MG-520 went down after the pilot was shot by enemy fire.”
Those of us who are protected & are far away from the war must thank each & every soldier risking their lives for us. Their courage & bravery keep us all safe. I pray for each of them.
However, for the GMA & the Ass, I HOPE that a stray bullet will hit them !
The high casualty of young lieutenants in a single encounter is disturbing. I think that the Abu Sayyaf snipers are selective in this particular incident. It seems that young officers are marked moving targets to demoralize government troopers. The Vietcong used the same tactics targeting G.I. officers at height of Vietnam War.
AK-47, are you saying that Arroyo is waiting for the US to order her to shoot one US soldier to justify America’s open involvement in Mindanao? Are you saying that Bush would sacrifice one American life for their country’s selfish interest? Possible. How many American lives have been sacrificed in Iraq? What’s one GI life in Mindanao? Arroyo can ask one Filipino soldier to shoot a GI then that would be the start of it…an all out war by US against the enemy in Mindanao. They would blame the shooting to Abus. If it is later discovered that the GI is shot not by the enemy but by the Filipinos, they the would claim it’s an accidental shooting.
AK-47,
You said (August 18th, 2007 at 3:47 pm) that “it has been told by assperon that basilan has been secured!” If that is so, the Ass should be lynched & shot !
Goji,
Not meaning to intrude, but, that did cross my mind a few days ago. What if nga an American soldier gets shot at by whoever in Mindanao ? This will definetly set the stage for American intervention & it will signal the beginning of Bush’s “Second Front” in his War on Terror – where he had mentioned the Philippines.
Heaven help us if this war in Mindanao escalates.
Chabeli, that’s very possible because the US has used that trick in other countries to start a war. The US is known to have vowed to act against anyone or any country that hurts her citizen. They are willing to send one commando group to free one US soldier. To the US, her image and prestige are more important. What you and I think may just happen…
By the way, few know that Tito Soto is currently selling his body and soul to Malacanang to get appointed in the cabinet or other government position. He might get it because Arroyo is working on his request. Tito is practically begging these days for a job in Malacanang. What a shame!
And this one may interest our friend Vic of Canada. It’s not only the US that are interested in that piece of juicy delicious Mindanao meat. So are China, Canada, Japan, Malaysia, Australia to name a few. If you have these so many interested parties, the conflict is certainly to continue making Mindanao another Iraq or Afghanistan.
Canada seeks role in watching truce
By Joselle Badilla
Mindanao Bureau
Last updated 09:09pm (Mla time) 08/18/2007
DAVAO CITY — The Canadian government said it was looking forward to participating in the International Monitoring Team (IMT) in a bid to boost its role in the peace process between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF).
Sorry, please ignore those above. I accidentally copied it. My apology to all.
This was what I was posting;
And this one may interest our friend Vic of Canada. It’s not only the US that are interested in that piece of juicy delicious Mindanao meat. So are China, Canada, Japan, Malaysia, Australia to name a few. If you have these so many interested parties, the conflict is certainly to continue making Mindanao another Iraq or Afghanistan.
Canada seeks role in watching truce
By Joselle Badilla
Mindanao Bureau
Last updated 09:09pm (Mla time) 08/18/2007
DAVAO CITY — The Canadian government said it was looking forward to participating in the International Monitoring Team (IMT) in a bid to boost its role in the peace process between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF).
By eliminating the MNLFs and the Abus, the tiyanak and asspweron are creating a powerful gang called MILF who are the untouchables because this will then become the Akbar army. In the 2010 elections, siguradong patok na patok na naman ang victory ng mga alipores ni tiyanak sa Mindanao. This evil duo has just created a Taliban or an Al Queda camp by favoring the MILF. Tapos ibabalik pa sa kanila yung ancestral domain. By the time the tiyanak will be out of her stolen office( that is if she will ever let go of it) this gang she created will be so powerful that they can dictate how Mindanao will be governed. They want to be autonomous and the tiyanak and asspweron are giving it to them in a silver platter.
AK-47, Goji
Your observation on US soldiers involvement in Mindanao has relevance to the column by Hern Zenarosa at Bulletin Today.
The presence of US special forces are similar to Afghanistan and it makes people fearful that it will worsen the situation in Mindanao.
“Dreams disappear with the death of the soldiers” as what we read in the Daily Inquirer summed up the death of young soldiers and officers. It’s all but started by the kidnapping of Fr. Bossi followed by an unclear policy unleashed by Gloria and Asperon and now joined by Teodoro.
Goji, you mentioned about Tito Sotto – the has-been yata is desperate. Aside from showbiz, trapo yata lang ang alam niya. I agree w/ you, “What a shame!”
Very interesting what you posted about the countries wanting to milk Mindanao. No wonder Gloria does not mind destroying it. Once destroyed like Iraq of Afghanistan, Mindanao will be up for bid, of course to the highest bidder & Gloria will skip happily all the way to the bank !
Paanong may mamamatay na kano eh pinalilibutan ng mga sundalong pinoy ang mga yan. As a matter of fact ang turing nila sa mga sundalo natin ay mga tsimoy nila- tigabitbit ng mga gamit nila etc. The US soldiers in Mindanao are just the string operators( like in a puppet show).
I’ve tried to avoid playing the US card in Mindanao but that’s the reality. Many may disagree but history tells us that she’s always been there where the trouble is. Whether they are trying to help or worsen the situation, that is subject to debate. But one thing is certain, America will not invest on something without anything in return. They are strict with the famous economic terminology “Return of Investment”.
Goji, a thought comes to mind..& what if the war in Mindanao escalates to, say, the Visayas, Luzon ? America must have learned from Iraq & Afghanistan by now. As we can see by now, America’s weakness in the war in Iraq & Afghanistan is how to be able to get out after destroying the countries..
One advantage our country has is that it’s composed of many islands; so escalating it to other areas would be difficult. You need air and sea support to accomplish this whether in offense or defense. I think it would be centered on Mindanao alone where huge interests are at stake. Thanks for seconding my opinion, Chabeli.
Thanks, too, Goji, for your comments & explanations. It is appreciated. You have good thoughts !
Hey, many of our colleagues here have good thoughts just like you, Chabeli. That’s what making this blog very interesting and famous. We got bunch of smart and witty bloggers here. Some even write like true professional journalists. I’m really very impressed. One thing that binds us all together is our crusade against this evil regime and love for the country whether we are locally or internationally based. With one mind and one spirit, I’m sure we will succeed in our endeavor.
Goji, I hope that we will all succeed in destroying this evil empire now besetting the country.
Also, I thought this article would be of interest to you (& others, of course). It’s entitled, “Who is the US supporting in the Mindanao War?” The article is in the Sunday column of Mr. William Esposo, “As I Wreck This Chair”: http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Opinion&p=49&type=2&sec=25&aid=20070818103
Billy Esposo is one of my favorite columnists. Another favorite write Dick Pascual has this to say about the GIs. Yes, what if one US soldier is taken by the enemy? He doesn’t have to be killed. A missing GI is enough for the US to justify direct involvement in Mindanao.
What if Moro fighters bag a fully-armed GI?
POSTSCRIPT By Federico D. Pascual Jr.
VFA BOMB: The administration should sort out immediately the actual status of American GIs in Muslim Mindanao before one of them is shot dead while supposedly advising Filipino troops or monitoring their intelligence and combat performance.
Just one armed GI getting killed in that arena crawling with Moro fighters is enough to have the RP-US Visiting Forces Agreement blow up in the face of the Arroyo administration.
With the government pouring in thousands of soldiers and Moro forces girding for a showdown in their home ground, the probability is high that a foreign soldier would trip and get caught in the crossfire.
Poging,
gusto makakita ng sinasabi mong Moro..lika tayong dalawa magharap…kapal ng mukha mo nakukuha mo pang tumawa..tawang demonyo ka pa! Di ka pa marunong gumamit ng salita..napaka-mal edukado mo naman…oo di pa nakakita ng moro si Sen. Trillanes dahil ang hinaharap niya mga muslim na tao, di katulad mo bahag ang buntot….
Gokusen, I suspect this Poging to be an alias of that Gwaping.
As Ystakei loves to say, we’re invaded by Internet Brigade. I think so now…
This afternoon around 3pm, there are american soldiers in lupa-lupa..dito sa lugar na ito madalas dumadaan ang mga mangbubukid, at mga abu’s..kung di talaga nakikialam ang mga puti di sila dapat pumunta sa mga ganung lugar na ipinapain nila sarili nila para mag-provoke ng gulo at pag may nasaktan sa kanila lalong titibay ang ipinakikita nila para sa anti-terrorism campaign ng administration Bush…di kami pabor na nandun sila dahil lalo lang nagagalit ang mga nagsilikas sa malapit na lugar na yun..
Re: One advantage our country has is that it’s composed of many islands; so escalating it to other areas would be difficult.
The conflict in Mindanao may escalate throughout the island nation. Why? The US International Narcotics Control Strategy reported that the New People’s Army (NPA) has generated funding from the drug trade from a variety of means, including extortion of traffickers in the form of a “revolutionary” tax for providing security to marijuana plantation, and direct participation in marijuana cultivation, processing and operations. The Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) is also linked to drug trafficking activity. The NPA and Abu Sayyaf are included in the US State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) watch list. The combination of war on terror and war on drugs is a valid reason for the US to be involved in counterinsurgency in the Philippines. The United States’ military involvement in Colombia is based on war on drugs.
Who is our enemy? The Abus, MNLF, MILF or the Arroyo government? If Arroyo government is the enemy of the people (including us in this blog), then the Abus and the rest are not our enemies. Both can’t be our enemies. We need to be on one side. If you ask me even if my position is unpopular, I’m on the Muslim side because Arroyo government is my enemy.
Tita Rose,
Gokusen: we will pray for you and I look forward to meeting you someday..I am pretty sure many of us here in Ellenville would like to meet you..
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thanks for the prayers and moral supports someday will meet..pero sa ngayon gusto kong ma-meet si “poging” para makita niya at makilala niya ang isang “moro” na sinasabi niya…
goji,
kung si gma ginagawa niya ang talagang dapat para sa mga pilipino, kahit tagalog kahit muslim pa..iisa tayo eh, isang lipi..isang lahi…pilipino! ewan kung pilipino rin siya at ang mga ka-alyado niya!
Diego, let’s not confused NPA with Abus. The two are different and separate even with the reasons that they are fighting for. Ideology wise, they share common objective; that is, to overthrow the government. I don’t think the US would touch the other parts of the country. After the US base closure in 1992, they would prefer that the hidden bases are in the South far from the watchful eyes of the critics. In addition, the US economy is now in a slop. They are faced with very serious credit and mortgage industry problems. They are in deep financial woes. They continue to pour in billions of dollars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and other countries. They cannot afford to spend more on the Philippines. What they do is using covert aid assistance. For instance, they would donate millions of dollars to the Arroyo government saying these are for economic and humanitarian assistance; but in reality these funds are being used to fight against the enemy in the South. The US doesn’t mind if a portion of these funds are pocketed by some Arroyo crooks as long as most are being used to indirectly accomplish what Uncle Sam wants. See the trick? Few know what’s really going on with the partnership between Arroyo and the US (CIA).
Ak47,
gokusen,
sana naman hinde kami mabibigo sayo. isa ka sa mga pag-asa namin at pag-asa nating lahat para malaman ng buong mundo ang katutuhan . I’ll pray for you my dear friend
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salamat sa tiwala, sabi ko di ba sa kabilang thread, di kinakailangan ang maging matapang kundi may determinasyon…
di ako matapang, o nagtatapang-tapangan pero determinado ako kung yun ang paraan para malaman ang katotohanan..!
thanks for the prayer!
goji,
tama ka jan, bumalik tuloy sa mind ko about the u.s bases dito sa pinas..sa japan they pay for their bases, sa atin libre and everytime may money consideration they call it “aid”, when marcos is now asking them to pay for the u.s bases and plan to let the filipinos stand for self determination..ayun na plan a, plan b at plan c siya ng mga puti. nang si pres. erap naman tinanggihan ang u.s bases ulit dito siya rin na plan a, plan b, at plan c..
kaya yung mga nakiayon sa gusto ng u.s. tulad ni gma, fvr, cory kahit anong coup di nagtagumpay kasi back up sila ng administration ng puti..
di i-give up ng puti ang mindanao…dahil sa sariling interest nila wala silang pakialam kahit na magbuhos ng dugo ang mga pilipino!
Ideology is not the issue here. There’s no confusion in their alleged involvement in drugs trafficking to finance their war against the Arroyo government. My point is that the combination of war on drugs and war on terror are recipes for US military involvement in the Philippines. Abu Sayyaf and the NPA are both listed in Washington’s foreign terrorists’ organization.
Gokusen, it’s good you mentioned Marcos. How did you know? were you already born then? Yes, Marcos fell out from Uncle Sam’s graces when he reduced the US base term by one half. That was the start of Uncle Sam’s displeasure with Marcos. Marcos’ enemies capitalized on America’s slow withdrawal of support from the Marcos government. The time was ripe to oust him and that was in 1986 when the US finally let go of him. Those who were knowledgeable about the situation would attest to the fact that US Marines surrounded Malacanang during those last moment of this they called “dictator”.
Okay, I got your point Diego. It’s not only war on terrorism that they play. It’s war on drugs and whatever they can think of. All these are geared towards serving their (US) interest.
Goji,
i’m a researcher..i read history para may reference ako sa mga nireresearch ko..btw, si marcos kahit sinasabing corrupt na leader ng pinas may puso para sa mga muslim, kaso ang mga nasa paligid niya ang sumira sa kanya tulad ni fvr, enrile at yung tinatawag nilang “rolex 12”..
goji / diego,
mayroon shabu lab dun sa camp ng milf sa mainland mindanao, kaso di mapasok-pasok dahil ang humahawak eh general..at talagang sa gitna ng gubat itinayo…
So Gokusen, you’re now among the many who believe that Marcos was not that bad after all. It’s the people around him. Let’s hope Gloria Arroyo would not use the same reason for her failure in the future. You mentioned “Rolex 12”. What was that? Who were the 12? Is this ex-Congressman and now Vice-Governor (?) Rex Suplicio among them? Rolex sounds like Rex. Yes, Marcos’ closest advisers and architects of Martial Law are very much alive today…Enrile, Ramos.
goji,
Roex 12 are the closest and most powerful around marcos
Tomas Diaz – Philippine Constabulary
Juan Ponce Enrile – Ministry of Defence
Romeo Espino – Chief of Staff
Romeo Gatan – Philippine Constabulary
Alfredo Montoya – Philippine Constabulary
Ignacio Paz – Philippine Army
Fidel Ramos – Philippine Constabulary
Jose Rancudo – Philippine Air Force
Hilario Ruiz – Philippine Navy
Rafael Zagala – Philippine Army
Fabian Ver – National Intelligence Security Authority
Eduardo “Danding” Cojuangco –
What are the US Special Forces for? They are in Afghanistan hunting down Al Qaeda radicals and at the same time destroying and prevent their source of finance in form of cocaine export. Afghanistan and Colombia are the top source of cocaine in asphalt jungles of the United States. The NPA, the Abu Sayyaf and the MILF maybe exporting shabu too. The Philippines also serves as a transshipment point for further export of shabu to Japan, Australia, Korea, the U.S., Guam, and Saipan. Why? Philippine customs officers and other law enforcement agencies can be easily bribed.
In the 1980’s, U.S. CIA operatives teamed up with cocaine dealers in the fight against Communism in Latin America. Profits from cocaine sold in Los Angeles and Miami were used by the CIA to fund, and buy guns for the anti-communist contra rebels. The war on drugs and war on terror is very complicated problem. You don’t know the real enemies are.
Bravo DKG !!! Your posts are like illuminating beacons, like pearls before …
Gokusen, you forgot to include Barangan, Abadilla, Olivas, Dumpit, Ramas, Balbanero, Custodio…
Maraming salamat kaibigan.
Diego, you seem to be focusing on drugs and cocaine. You forgot to mention Panama’s Gen. Noriega. I’m sure you know the history and story behind him including kidnapping him right in his own country by the US.
Nope. We are exploring the relationship between war on drugs and terror.
goji,
kasi yung rolex 12 lang ang alam ko eh..ngayon add ko na sila…tnx
So, Rolex 19 because I added seven. Diego, drug is a multi-billion business. The reason why the US, being a very powerful and well funded nation, cannot solve their own drug problem is because they actually are into it. The US makes money out of war and drugs.
“The US embassy and Philippine military say US Special Forces troops are providing intelligence and training in the hunt for Abu Sayyaf and other militants on the islands of Basilan and Jolo.”
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Kaya pala natatalo ang mga sundalo natin!
They died too young for nothing!
Itigil ang kabaliwang ito!
Hindi nga muna ako nag-blog dahil iyak ako ng iyak sa kamatayan ng mga marines na ito. Nakakapanghinayang ang kanilang buhay, ni hindi inabot ang prime age dahil sa gera-gerahan ni Gloria!
Basilan is secured, Asspweron said. Idiot! Idiot! Idiot! &^%%$$##@!!! Magkayakap kayo ni Gloria na ililibing dahil sa gera-gerahang ito!
15 dead marines in a single encounter! Kailangang ang matatandang generals sa pangunguna ni Asspweron and other “Hello Garci” gens ang isabak naman sa bakbakan sa Mindanao. They’re the ones who deserve to die by the arms and bullets they sell to the enemies!
goji says:
“AK-47, are you saying that Arroyo is waiting for the US to order her to shoot one US soldier to justify America’s open involvement in Mindanao?”
exactly goji ! i believe it’s not new to eveyone that bush actually is a “war trouble maker”, why he loves this game? as you said, it’s mainly because of “business”, so here we are, sheding blood in mindanao.
gokusen,
thanks, hope you will keep that courage, faith, and determination with you until you step-in the door of the highest judicial court of the republic of the philippines ! “for the people, by the people, and of the people” ! ….. so help me god. god bless my dear friend, wish i could meet you personally oneday.
chabeli,
yes, it’s true, when assperon said ” basilan was already well secured”),that was i think a week after the death of these 14 marines.
TurningPoint Says:
AK-47, Goji
“Your observation on US soldiers involvement in Mindanao has relevance to the column by Hern Zenarosa at Bulletin Today.”
yes tongue, that was my long time perception if you try to look around, particulary this “games of the generals” in mindanao, where in the arbiter is bush & gloria.
chi,
you’re right, it should be those idiot & evil generals like assperon, tolentino, and cedo were supposed to be in the front line of the battle and not these ” very young and unexperienced officers”, that they have not even completed their ongoing reconaissance course.
wala ka talagang puso assperon ! dapat ang mga sundalo mo unggoy nalang at aso naman ang mga intelligence mo !
gokusen says:
“si marcos kahit sinasabing corrupt na leader ng pinas may puso para sa mga muslim, kaso ang mga nasa paligid niya ang sumira sa kanya tulad ni fvr, enrile at yung tinatawag nilang “rolex 12″..”
gokusen, i agree with you, not that am an ilocano as well, but i can say the word “at least”…to marcos. dahil kung wala syang puso, malamang ang daming namatay na civilian during the EDSA revolution.
Gokusen: “si marcos kahit sinasabing corrupt na leader ng pinas may puso para sa mga muslim, kaso ang mga nasa paligid niya ang sumira sa kanya tulad ni fvr, enrile at yung tinatawag nilang “rolex 12″..”
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The truth, Gokusen, was that Marcos actually loved his country and people. He did not want any of them to die and be killed by their fellow Filipinos. As his wife always says/said, “Isang lahi, isang diwa!”
Yes, AK-47, Marcos was surrounded by leeches and crocodiles known as “cronies” who took advantage of the naivette of the wife, Imelda, when the Apo was too sick to really control the country.
Apparently, his wish is about to come true—that history will be kinder to him! He kept on saying that in fact before he died. I heard him say so when we visited him in Hawaii after the Americans transported them there.
“wala ka talagang puso assperon ! dapat ang mga sundalo mo unggoy nalang at aso naman ang mga intelligence mo !”
ik. ik. ik. graaah! graaaah!
arf! arf! arf!
ak-47, magkakaintindihan nga sila.
mrivera,
hahahaha… binulabog mo yong kumukulo kong dugo! mabuti na yon dba? at least yon mga unggoy lang at aso (marami kay gloria nyan!), kahit maubos pa sila! tapos yon nalang ang gawing pulutan sa inumin ng walang kaluluwang assperon at mga bata nya.
ystakei say:
“Yes, AK-47, Marcos was surrounded by leeches and crocodiles known as “cronies” who took advantage of the naivette of the wife, Imelda, when the Apo was too sick to really control the country”.
tama ka ystakei, alam ko na may puso at malasakit sa mga tao si marcos nong panahon nya hinde gaya ni gloria. yon nga lang tama ang sabi mo na nasira lang sya sa mga taong pinagkakatiwalaan nya. at saka alam nya ang batas hnde gaya ni gloria.
Marcos has long died. It’s only now that people realize his worth and contribution to the country. Even his worst enemies and critics now admit he was a better leader. He was full of vision for the country and that included power energy and freedom from foreign meddling. Recently, Congressman Golez of Paranaque said that what the country needs is a national discipline borrowing the famous “New Society” slogan of Marcos. Indeed, we witnessed some discipline among our people during the initial years of Martial Law. Marcos being human like many others succumbed to temptation and ambition so he failed. His failure was largely caused by his wife and other cronies. That was a bitter lesson he learned. When Ninoy was assassinated, Marcos enemies capitalized on his death and that was the beginning of the end of Marcos.
Only a few PMA graduates opt to be in the Marines. It is the elite combat arm of the AFP, even in all other countries as well the marines are normally numbered leess compared to the other arms of the armed forces but they are always looked up to for the toughest combats. For Asspweron to sacrifice six very young PMAers on a very dubious fight, he deserves to be shot himself! As it is, our marines are headless. All their best officers are incarcerated. Allaga, a Garci general is leading them and another bigger Garci general is leading the whole armed forces. How much more demoralizing can that be?
The volatile situation in Minadanao is very scary because it gives a signal to the other groups like the CPP and NPA to maybe take advantage of the situation. How can a very weak government with a very inutil cheat of staff who only knows one thing, to cheat and execute the orders of a bogus and evil president ever defend all the fronts when all these factions start to fight the government troops altogether. Tiyanak and Asspweron just touched a bee hive and now all the bees are ready to sting them! I hope these bees are that of the African variety which kills!
The Americans always want the Philippines as their strategic base in Southeast Asia. They picked Cory Aquino. FVR to make sure they were allowed to operate in the Philippines. Erap was an experiment and when they found out he could not work 100% for them, they ousted him and installed tiyanak instead. REmember how tiyanak caters to all their whims? Even the rapist was given back to US custody.
I still believe that Marcos did more good and productive projects for the country. All these efforts went down the drain when his generals ran the country with Imelda’s lead! It amazes me how some of his generals ended up to be the top officials of our land, still orchestrating our current affairs.One of them still serves actively in the senate. The Filipinos in my generation should know who the wolves were!
The latest comments above indicate some admiration for much maligned Macoy. It is a fact that our statute books are still heavy with Presidential Decrees, thus proving their worth and value and by association the worth of Macoy. After 20 years, a succession of Congresses have not found suitable replacement to repeal these P.D.s. I can only add, Agpayso, wen ngarud, yes AK47?
Parasabayan, you mentioned that GI rapist (Smith). Whatever happened to him and the case. He could be back in the US now.
The problem with our media and people is that they are so hot on controversial issue at first and then we don’t hear from them anymore. So I reiterate that this Basilan problem would vanish like that of Lamitan.
Neonate, it’s not only the Marcos Generals that are now in the government and politics; his cronies are still very much active. Poor Marcos, he was taken advantage of. Erap should have learned the lesson from Marcos but the guy also made the same big mistake.
Goji,
The problem with our media and people is that they are so hot on controversial issue at first and then we don’t hear from them anymore. So I reiterate that this Basilan problem would vanish like that of Lamitan.
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eh kung ang senado nga eh, kinalimutan na rin kunwari pa nagkaroon ng senate investigation…tapos ayun ek ek lang si pangilinan…kaya kawawa rin ang mga nag-witness eh, ilalagay sa “witness protection program?” eh, di nga concreto ang policy ng witness protection program nila, nagtuturuan ang nbi at police…tapos under pa rin kay gonzales…eh di parang iniluto lang sa sariling mantika ang mga witnesses…so papano may lalabas para magsalita kung wala naman total security? Pag-aralan mo lahat ng tumayo sa senado ano ang ginawa…”nababoy lang ang buhay nila..hinalungkat at pinasama din ng ibang nababayaran na media…
And remember the Teves expose on Committee on Audit headed by Pichay for corruption? What happened to that expose? Cebu’s Garcia is the same barking dog. How he cried foul again JDV but later agreed to accept a position in the Congress. How can we believe these people?
I’m sorry…it’s Committee on Appointment not Audit. There’s a habit in both Congress and Senate…expose, investigation, hearings, then settle. They have never been serious about any investigation. That’s why I’m not so comfortable about this whole Basilan fiasco.
Goji,
Si teves ba yung nasa finance ngayon?
neonate,
agpayso met haan kadi? (it’s true, right?) damagem ken ystakei ammo na amin (ask ystakei, she knows everything about it).
but i wonder why these 2 traitors (JPE & FVR) still very alive these days! they, as we all know, the brain of historic EDSA revolution that lead to the “fall of APO”.
no adda la pannakabalin ko, biagek ni marcos (if only i had that divine power, am going to resurrect marcos).
am sorry for those who are against the marcoses, but history tells and proved he was a very good leader in his time who shown love and compassion to his country with a “true vision” unlike this evil gloria arroyo (the worst among the worst of all).
AK-47,
muslims are infavor of marcos, at alam mo ba na i still keeping the last wallet pic calendar nila yung bago siya umalis and i read books about him, not the bad books..we muslims know how great president marcos is..and how patriotic peace loving dynamic leader of one’s nation!
Ak-47,
Thanks for the translation. Siguro, majority sa pinoy ngayon are with you in your dream that “if only i had that divine power, am going to resurrect marcos”, minus Imeldific.
Yes Gokusen, the young Teves is the Finance Secretary while the older Teves, his father, is the Congressman who exposed the corruption in the Committee on Appointment headed by Pichay. We never hear from this case anymore.
I learned from a highly reliable source a fact that never reached media. The first flag officer appointed as SouthCom chief was a flamboyant gung-ho (aggressive) officer who blurted his strategy to Macoy that “a good Moro is a dead Moro.”He was promptly replaced as SouthCom chief
The truth is, Marcos also initiated a campaign against the Muslim rebels then. But at that time, it was only a small group of bandits. The number grew when Cory Aquino took over.
Even during the time of Marcos, we heard about the bodies of soldiers and Marines being shipped to Manila during midnight so that people wouldn’t notice. In a war and conflict, there are casualties of course. But while Marcos was fighting against the Muslim bandits, he also saw to it the that needs and welfare of the Muslims were taken care of. That makes him different from this current evil woman of the Palace.
neonate,
sino na nga ‘yung pinalitan ni late RAdm espaldon as southcom chief?
i think you were referring to that predecessor of espaldon. am i right?
neonate,
katulad din ‘yan nu’ng kaso ni former army chief mgen rodolfo canieso when he was still the battalion commander of 33rd inf bn assigned in cotabato sometime in early 1970’s. galit din si macoy sa kanya dahil wala siyang bukambibig kundi “marami pang ilokano sa luzon” kapag nalalagasan siya ng tauhan na siya rin (canieso) mismo ang dahilan sapagkat kapag humingi ng fire support ang tropa ay sa likuran mismo ang bagsak ng bala ng kanyon sabay tawag sa radyong “tama lamang ‘yan para umabante kayo at harapin ang kalaban.”
can you imagine a colonel being promoted to one star rank only after more than ten years? ganu’n si canieso. na-promote lamang noong talagang malala na ang sakit ni apo ferdie dahil sa malaking galit sa kanya.
isa pang kalokohan nitong si canieso ay noong siya ang CG, PA training command sa ft magsaysay kung saan ang rebulto ni late president magsaysay ay pinihit niyang paharap sa flag pole at sinabing “bastos kang presidente ka pa naman ay tinatalikuran mo ang bandila.” ‘yun ay nu’ng malapit na ang edsa 1.
Mrivera, most of the high ranking military officials during the Marcos regime were Ilocanos particularly from Anak Ti Batac. The Presidential Guard Battalion was headed by Ver and Barangan. Most of the guards are Ilocanos. Ilocanos during the time of Marcos had a Fiest Day. Marcos loved the Ilocanos very much and he was loved as well. At the height of Edsa One, troops coming from the North and Ilocos were intercepted.
Had they arrived in time, there would be blood shed. Ilocanos were very loyal to Marcos.
MRivera,
Eh ano naman ang pagkakilala mo kay Gen. Camis? Sino and WestMin Gen. nung time na mapatay si Ninoy? Have you heard about “kumander buwaya?”?
napagusapn ninyo ang mga investigastion na walang nangyari – ang isip ko mga nagkabayaran na. Cottage industry iyan ng mga politicos.
What went wrong with intelligence gathering and recon operations?
“We understand they were on assault. They were not able to assess the strength of enemy.” WestMinCom chief Lt. Gen. Eugenio Cedo
DKG,
ganito “scenario” sa amin ha pag opn ng tungkol kuno sa “abu” bago pa dumating yung mga lehitimong mag ooperate alam na ng mga “abu” kaya sila nakahanda na aabangan ang mga kalaban. Tanong sino nagbibigay ng “info”?
(1) sa marine brigade may tao sila, tama!
(2) yung tao nila magrereport dun sa “protector” nila
(3) yung protector i-confirm sa opisyales tungkol sa opn , saan , kelan, at ilan ang darating
(4) yung protector tatawag dun sa isa sa lider ng “abu”
(5) yung isa dun sa lider ng “abu” tatawag dun sa mga tauhan niya dun sa area..
(6) eto na pagdating ng mga mag-ooperate…inuulan na sila ng m203, mortar…ng abu
(7) o kung di naman magkakaratratan, eh umaalis na ang mga “abu” pagdating ng mga sundalo, nadaratnan nila eh yung mga pinagkainan na lang nga mga “abu” at ang pinatay na apoy mula sa kalan…
pahabol pa bukod pa dun…sa dadaanan ng mga militar laging may “lookout” ang mga yan at nililinis ang dadaanan …kung nasa west ang sundalo, dun sila dadaan sa east, at pag nasa north dun sila sa south..kung mejo tatagal ang labanan, may chopper akala mo magbabagsak ng “bomba” yun pala “pagkain ng mga “abu” ang ibinabagsak at di “bomba”…habang yung mga sundalo eh nagugutom sa paghahanap sa abu..eh yung mga abu naman nagpapakasasa sa “grasya” na nilaglag sa kanila…!
Kung ganoon dapat pugotan ang ulo ng protektor nila. Estilo Mafia ang pamalakad at utak pera.
Aha, iyong enumeration mo, Gokusen, ay malinaw na hanggang EK!
Ayan ang expose ni Senator Trillanes!
Mabuti kung merong madatnang buto ang mga sundalo sa pinag-apuyan ng mga abu!
Sana ay nagbabasa si Chiz ng mga info mo dito Gokusen. Tutal ay suportado niya ang inilahad ni Trillanes.
Ka Diego,
Ang intindi ko, ang “protektor” nila ay hawak si Gloria dahil sa “Hello Garci”. Tama ba, Gokusen?
Chi,
isa na yung produkto ng hello garci..kasama pa yun utak ng hello garci kasi un ang matindi sa lahat! by the power vested upon…by “hello garci….tsk tsk…
“..kasama pa yun utak ng hello garci kasi un ang matindi sa lahat! by the power vested upon…by “hello garci”,… you are hereby pronounced pakner forever! Hahahah!
MRivera, I am not sure if the appointment was official or merely a first choice, but the net result is RAdm Romy Espaldon at the SouthCom helm.
AK47, in case you’re not aware, Narcise is an Ilocano and Esperon is a Pangalatok who understands or might even speak Ilocano. Such diversity of behavior in Ilocandia was also the downfall of Diego Silang. Snide remarks in Ellenville against Ilocanos only serve to create divisions, not discourse. It might be relevant to mention that the commander of the task force besieging the Enrile/Ramos/Honasan rebels at EDSA was an Ilocano who desisted in giving the order to fire to prevent collateral damage.
to all who shared their admiration and appreciation in remembering the late beloved president marcos at this moment of miseries, maraming maraming salamat poh sa inyong lahat.
neonate,
thanks a lot for the info, ngayon ko lang nalaman sayo na ilocano din pala si narcise. there is a very big difference in personality between the pangalatoks (or pangasinense) and ilocanos. so, pangasinense pala etong hayop na esperon.
si gloria naman, multi-dialects yan, kapag sya’y nasa kailokanohan, sasabhin nyan “ilocano” din sya, pag nasa pangasinan “pangasinense sya”, pag nsa pampanga “kapampangan” sya etc., ganyan sya tuwing nagpupunta sa mga ibat ibang lugar.
sa US kaya? cguro sinasabi nya kay bush “american” din sya ! hinde kaya bigla mapa utot si bush ? palagay mo mrivera?
chi,
okay lang yon, minsan magpaturo ka kay ystakei ng ilocano kasi half/half din yon. bakit nga pala wala sya ngayon?
gokusen,
maraming salamat din, feeling ko nagtutugma ang mga puso natin sa mga nararamdaman. god bless !
iking 47,
sabi ko na nga dito nu’ng una pa, kung kaharap nga ni gloria ang aso at puwede itong bumoto nu’ng nangangampanya siya ay sasabihin niyang meron siyang dugong aso para siya iboto dahil magkamag-anak sila.
gokusen,
nu’ng mapatay si ninoy ay wala pang westmincom. southcom pa noon under RAdm romulo espaldon.
hindi ko kilala itong gen camis na sinasabi mo. sino itong kumander buwaya? para ma-refresh ko ang medyo inaamag ko ng alaala.
mrivera,
pag nagkataon pala na naintindihan ng mga aso ang kanilang kadugo na tao (gloria) ay baka aabot pa sa 100 million ang buto nya !, sobrang sobra na sa popolasyon natin !
AK,
Bilib ako kung ang multi-dialect speaking president is not fake. Pati dialects ay ginagawang pulitikal ni Gloria, the multi-personality sob!
chi,
pero mukhang peke ang pananalita nya (pekeng gloria), pumunta samin nagsasalita yan ng “ilocano”, siguro ilang gabi din prinaktis ng impakta !!!
iking 47,
rekording ‘yun. hindi mismong si gloria ang nagsalita ng ilokano.
Yahahaah! Recording ha?! Nagli-lipsync pala ang bruha!