Bacani: ‘Binabastos na ang bayan’
by Gerard Naval
Malaya
Novaliches Bishop emeritus Teodoro Bacani yesterday stopped short of calling for a people power revolt as he urged the people to express their outrage over what he described as the “misgovernance” of the Arroyo administration.
The bishop, in a radio interview, said the public should help the media and the nation in showing their disgust over the “shameless” acts of the administration.
“Ako ay nalulungkot dahil parang wala masyadong reaksyon ang mga tao at para bang naging manhid na tayo sa kawalanghiyaan na nangyayari,” Bacani said.
“Binabastos na ang bayan, ang pulitika. Ang mga kolumnista ay nagsasalita pa pero hindi ko na nakikitang masyadong nagagalit ang karamihan,” he added.
Bacani’s position came in the wake of the condemnation by the Catholic Church of cash gifts handed by Malacañang to congressmen and local executives last week, saying it is a sign of the leaders’ “moral bankruptcy.”
Malacañang is being accused of “bribing” administration congressmen, governors and mayors of money with amounts ranging from P200,000 to P500,000.
Governors Ed Panlilio of Pampanga and Jonjon Mendoza of Bulacan have admitted receiving half a million pesos in cash from a Malacañang staff member after meeting with Arroyo last week.
Rep. Bienvenido Abante (Manila, 6th Dist.) also admitted he received P500,000 in cash and even manifested that the President was present during its distribution.
Bacani said Malacañang should disclose the circumstances behind the money distribution, its recipients, its sources, and its purpose.
“Dapat aminin nila kung sinu-sino ang namigay. Kung nagbigay ka para sa mahirap. Dapat itong aminin ng taga-Malacañang,” Bacani said.
Sen. Francis Escudero expressed doubts on the sincerity of President Arroyo’s order for the Presidential Anti-Graft Commission to conduct an “honest-to-goodness” investigation on the alleged payoffs.
Escudero said the agency has become a “non-functioning” repository of complaints which has so far not succeeded in pinning down supposed corrupt officials.
“I’m not deriding PAGC’s ability… but where are PAGC’s past recommendations against (erring) public officials? Was it acted upon by the President, by the Executive Secretary (Eduardo Ermita)?” he said.
Senate minority leader Aquilino Pimentel said the PAGC is the wrong agency to probe the latest payoff scandal.
He said PAGC chairwoman Constancia de Guzman cannot be expected to carry out a no-nonsense inquiry because that would pin down the President.
“Nothing will come out of it. You cannot expect a subordinate to investigate his or her master who…might be proven to have been involved,” Pimentel said.
The Kilusang Magbubukid ng Pilipinas said it expects a “whitewash” in the PAGC investigation.
The group also called Arroyo’s probe order a “sham” and was made only to absolve her from liability.
House Speaker Jose de Venecia disputed the claim of Interior secretary Ronaldo Puno in a media forum that the money, which amounted from P200,000 to P500,000 each, could have come from the House.
“We don’t have anything to do with those funds and their distribution. We don’t have that kind of money,” he said.
De Venecia said he was not even present when the money was supposedly distributed last Thursday.
De Venecia advised his colleagues in the majority bloc to return the money if they believe it is tainted with corruption while those who do not should use it to help their constituents especially in the Oct. 29 barangay elections.
‘GIVE GMA, PAGC A CHANCE’
Executive secretary Eduardo Ermita appealed to Palace critics to give the President and the PAGC investigation a chance.
“She has her way of managing (and) running the affairs of government. Pagbigyan natin siya. Let the investigation run its course. Alangan namang lahat ng mga pakikialam, pagbibigyan. Let her run the government,” he said.
Ermita denied rumors that he has resigned.” I have not offered to resign. I am where I am.”
He also denied that other Cabinet members have submitted their resignations.
“The reports are only to show that the administration is in disarray at nagkakagulo na kami,” he said.
Ermita denied reports that he was behind the alleged payoffs last Oct. 11.
“I was not there. I was in my office. And I didn’t even see them (local government officials) come in because from early about 8:30 a.m. I was in my office and we’ve been having meetings,” he said.
ABS-CBN News, quoting a source, said President Arroyo, Ermita, senior deputy executive secretary Joaquin Lagonera, undersecretary Remedios Poblador and Interior assistant secretary Brian Yamsuan allegedly distributed money to congressmen and governors.
Lagonera, Yamsuan, and Poblador denied the report through text messages.
DOJ IS MUM ON PAYOFFS
The Department of Justice will just let the PAGC investigate the alleged pay-offs, said acting Justice secretary Agnes Devanadera.
“On the surface, nobody has cried bribery. So whether there is a crime or not, I don’t want to preempt the PAGC,” she said.
Defense secretary Gilberto Teodoro Jr. said the Armed Forces will stay behind President Arroyo.
“The Armed Forces is solid and united behind the chain of command and political issues like this will not affect the (performance) of their duties and responsibilities,” he said.
Marines commandant Maj. Gen. Ben Dolorfino on Tuesday admitted that the Marines are affected by the bribery issue but said that it would not be a source of grumbling that may lead to military adventurism.
Also on Wednesday, AFP public information office chief Lt. Col. Bartolome Bacarro said the bribery issue may be a topic of the soldiers in informal discussions but he said he doubted if it would go beyond that. – With JP Lopez, Regina Bengco, Wendell Vigilia, Evangeline de Vera and Victor Reyes
ate ellen Good morning!!
“Ako ay nalulungkot dahil parang wala masyadong reaksyon ang mga tao at para bang naging manhid na tayo sa kawalanghiyaan na nangyayari,” Bacani said.
true, isa na na kayo (CBCP) sa mga manhid na tao, but not me and not here in ellensville.
“Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do.”
CBCP, why wait for people’s outrage? you can start it now, or dapat nga yesterday pa, sana sumama na rin kayo sa caravan.
Manhid o kaya ay nadala na ang mga tao. People have learned a lesson from Edsa 1 people power. A lot of ordinary people risked lives and limbs to evict Marcos who we knew then as a a devil, only to be replaced by a more devilish one, one after the other.
Who says there is no public outrage? The people are not about to fill the streets to replace this immoral government. They, I guess, want to do it within the frameworks of laws and constitutionalism.
You can bet the upcoming barangay elections will spell the same results as the last national polls. Those identified with the administration will be rejected overwhelmingly while those who sell themselves as independent or opposition will succeed.
I am sure this latest bribery case in Malacañang will be used by many candidates in the barangay polls to discredit their opponents as recipients of bribes. Gloria’s kiss of death now extends way down to the basic units of gov’t.
The Filipinos now ARE educated voters. That’s where it will all begin. Being proactive will come, I hope, soon.
Paquiemquieme pa kasi ang mga bishop noon pinaghahatian ang mga lagay ng malacanan so you see all what is happening now. Ang lahat na ito ay dina sana nangyayari.
Where’s people outrage? Wala bang makita si Bishop Bacani?
Well, kasalanan iyan ng CBCP, niloloko lang ang mga tao simula ng mag-thanksgiving mass si Gaudencio Rosales sa Luneta para kay Gloria sa halip na chacha protest rally.
Sawa na ang mga tao sa kanilang pagpapabaya sa mamamayan. Wala silang inatupag kundi ipagtanggol si Gloria kapalit ng pera-pera.
Ang maraming miebro ng CBCP ang nagsimulang tumanggap ng suhol, tanungin si Remedios Poblador na relative ni Gaudencio Rosales. Damay lang ang mabubuting mga arsobispos, bishops at pari sa mga korap justice and truth obstructionist na tulad ni Rosales at Soc Villegas.
Wala akong nakikitang tunay na pagtatanggol ng CBCP laban kay Gloria. Kanya-kaya silang pula at puting sobre. Hindi ko na lang babanggitin si Sin, naiinis na naman ako!
Bishop Bacani, baka iyong mga kasama ninyo sa CBCP ang dapat ay magbago at magsimula ng pagsipa kay Gloria, hindi ang mga ordinaryong tao ang dapat ninyong asahan ng galit dahil ni walang laman ang aming mga tiyan, ginutom na kami Gloria pero binubusog naman galing sa kaban ng bayan ang maraming miembro ng CBCP, governors, local officials, Garci Generals at Tongressmen.
Dapat ay kayo sa CBCP ang magusap-usap, nakakaalibadbad kayo!
‘GIVE GMA, PAGC A CHANCE’
Taris itong si Ermita, ang presidente mo na lang ba ang bibigyan ng tsansa? Ilang beses na bang binigyan ng tsansa ang hinayupak na babaeng ‘yan buhat nung agawin niya ang pwesto kay Erap hangga ngayon?!
Bah! Kayo na lahat, wala na sa amin!
“Ipahayag ang Galit” GGGGRRRRRRR! ^&%%$#@*&!
Bishop Bacani: hindi ba kayo ang adviser ni Mike Velarde? Na saan ang members ng movement mo? Why don’t you tell them? Kung na kakagather kayo ng million ka tao got s prayer meeting in Luneta..bakit hindi ninyo tawagin sila at magdala ng payong..hindi para isahod sa grasya kundi gamitin at ihampas sa ulo ni Gloria at mga alipores niya..hindi mo magagawa ano? Dare! Ke klase kang adviser? Gaya ka rin ni GMA..investigate me but don’t find me guilty. If more and more catholics join other Christian groups have you asked yourself why? Have you taken a look of yourself in the mirror? My prayer for the day Bishop Bacani: Psalm 13..A Prayer for Help : How much longer will you forget me Lord? Forever? How much longer will you hide yourself from me? How long must I endure trouble? How long will sorrow fill my heart day and night? How long will my enemies triump over me? Look at me O Lord my God and answer me… Hindi lang seguro ako nagiisa sa pagdasal nito..marami din na gaya ko..how about you Bishop?
“Bishop: Where’s people’s outrage?”
Well, Mr Bishop, there’s probably very lil people outrage because they are all so busy trying to get their families something to eat.
You know, Gloria may show off by distributing 500 thousand pesos in each Christmas bag to her wealthy but corrupt allies but the truth is there are 3.8 million Filipinos who have experienced involuntary hunger these past few months.
So you see, these 3.8 Filipinos are too busy to be outraged. However, what you and civil society and the rest of the population who have the education and the means to be outraged can do so at anytime. Why don’t you go do it?
People: Where’s bishops’ outrage?
“Kung na kakagather kayo ng million ka tao got sa prayer meeting in Luneta..bakit hindi ninyo tawagin sila at magdala ng payong..hindi para isahod sa grasya kundi gamitin at ihampas sa ulo ni Gloria at mga alipores niya..hindi mo magagawa ano? Dare! Ke klase kang adviser?”
Atta girl, Rose!
Ang mga baligtad na payong ay ihampas kay Gloria!
“Thou shalt not be a victim. Thou shalt not be a perpetrator. Above all, thou shalt not be a bystander” let’s act now, or else kelan pa?
Ang hirap naman kasi sa CBCP eh baka naghihintay pa ng cash gifts from gloria.
oo nga no? where’s bishops’ outrage? well magtataka pa ba tayo eh sila ang number 1 hypocrites, really rotten to the core!!!
How true is the report that two million Marcos loyalists led by Cherry Cobarrubias marched demanding GMA’s resignation? Kung tutoo ito, aba buti pa ang mga Marcos loyalists kayang magtawag ng ganoong karami. Did it have the blessing of Imelda who’s now close to GMA? Hindi yata dahil sila ni Cherry ay nag-split na. Magkaaway na sila ngayon. There are actually two Marcos groups today; one with Imelda the other with Cherry.
makatulog na nga, Sana paggising ko eh meron nang himala
Huwag mong kalimutan uminom ng gatas, shiva.
Chi: I am really frustrated with the Philippine catholic church leaders now (including the Philippine Jesuits). Our SCA adviser during my college days at UE, each time I see him when I go home ask me “when are you coming home for good to help us here in the Phil.” He is a Columban missionary, I know he is not a party of the corruption in the church..next time he would ask me (he understands Visayan) I will tell him..pagputi ng uwak!
shivaRN: sad to say there is no such thing as bishops outrage, priests and nuns outrage, religious leaders outrage, malungkot..
Chi: “pagputi ng uwak” does not mean that I will not go home..I will go home but most likely stay longer in Antique..tahimik sa amin..
Same here, Rose. I’m so disappointed with them, coming from a Catholic school doesn’t help.
The involvement of Gaudencio Rosales and Socrates Villegas in the Hello Garci scandal was the last straw for me. We’re away from Pinas and yet we feel that CBCP betrayed us, sila pa kaya na nandun?!
Kay Archbishop Cruz lang ako bilib, ang tanda na pero may pinagkatandaan at consistent ang banat kay Gloria.
Tama si Pechanco. It’s the people who should ask ‘where’s bishops’ outrage’?
Chi: I was asked this morning if I would consider working for the church again. Ang sabi: oh no! I sin more working for the church and in the church kasi marami akong nakikita na contrary to what I learned in school..maybe some day napaiiling na lang yong pari,,
Knight takes Bishop.
Matlino na kaming mga Indio, People Power only destroys the constitution, we wanted to do it the right way, impeachment or mag resign siya. Wala ng naniniwala sa inyo, ngayon gusto nyong magingay, bakit naiingit kayo kasi the silence within your organization ay masyadong nakakabinggi.
Bishop Bacani – kung gusto mong mag people power, gawin mong magisa mo.
I agree with Tongue T. Outrage can be expressed in petitions calling for revisions of laws that the criminal and her minions have conveniently circumvented so she can stay in power, not really in control for she seems to be merely the front of the husband, who, regardless of whether or not he has official portfolio, seems to be running the show as in the case of the ZTE/NBN deal. Unless they do, no matter how many people’s power Filipinos do, the result will remain the same.
Please huwag nang asahan ang mga pare at madre. Their responsibility is to bring back the people to God, who BTW can inspire people to do what is right for their country and themselves. Somehow with God by our side in fact we can be properly guided as to what steps to take to remove effectively a Satanic Advocate and a criminal from the palace by the murky river.
Turuan na lang ng mga pare at madre na magdasal ng tama ang tao. On the other hand, kailangan din siguro silang mag-aral muli ng tamang Ebanghelyo ni Hesukristo. Mukhang nalihis na rin kasi sila. Otherwise, hindi puedeng magtayo ng sarili niyang kulto si Velarde sa loob ng simbahang katoliko. Laking kabulastugan iyan sa totoo lang.
Iyan ang katotohanan ng sinabi ni Jesus Christ na mga propetang palso na ililihis ang mga tao mula sa katotohanan. For one thing, nobody can be saved by merely putting some money in some envelopes as followers of Velarde do. Iyan ang dahilan kung bakit siguro hindi damdam ng marami ang bigat ng kasalanang ginawa ni GLORC sa pagmudmod ng mga supot na may pera. Para kasing nagbigay lang ng abuloy sa El Shaddai!!!
Magbasa lang si Bacani sa blog ni Ellen, makikita na niya ang galit ng taumbayan. Pero gaya nga noong mga sundalong gustong mag-coup, kundi kinukulong, ginugutom naman. Pinapain pa nga ang mga pamilya nila sa totoo lang. Nakita ko kung papaano napasuko iyong mga sundalo sa Magdalo noon. Kinuha ang mga mises, magulang, kapatid, et al at inilabas sa TV na nagmamakaawang sumuko na sila na pangako naman daw ay palalayain sila ni GLORC. E di na-trick-an sila. Iyon pala, tatakotin pa ang ilan sa kanila para gawing pain doon sa mga matitigas.
Ang galing ni GLORC sa mga ganitong trabaho. Inborn sa kaniya. Di ba lolo niya traydor?
Takot ang mga taong mag-rally kasi yong dapat na mag-lead sa kanila ay puro takot. Kasi ayaw nilang paalisin si Glorya sa ngayon …. pag nagkataon kasi mawawala na yong pangarap nilang maging Presidente. Puro pansarili lang ang inisip nila. TAKOT SILA KAY GLORYA SA TOTOO LANG. At kung hinahanap ni Bacani yong mga tao bakit hindi niya pansinin yong simbahan niya kung may nagsisimba pa. Dumadami na ang mga Muslim, yong kay Velarde, yong kay Manalo pero yong kay Papa alaws na … pakunti na. Kita mo na nga etong Cardinal Rosales niyo may naririnig ba kayo?
Rose: Ang sabi: oh no! I sin more working for the church and in the church kasi marami akong nakikita
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Sinabi mo pa. I was an active Catholic in my teens pero when I joined and became a leader of such organizations as the SCA and the Legion of Mary, doon ako nagkaroon ng chance na ma-obserbahan ng husto ang mga pare at madre. Nadismaya ako, and I understood why my father rebelled against them.
I thought of looking for the true church after reading the Bible from cover to cover. Then when I was 17, I met the LDS missionaries, and I joined their church. I never regretted that decision as a matter of fact with my parents’ consent.
I now serve as PR Director in our stake, and we have quarterly meetings to discuss the affairs of our stake. No politics, just pure Godly work, even concern for the needy in our church. Amazingly, we have very few concerns as everyone is faithful in following the teachings of the church, even the Commandments of God, and for that everyone seems to be blessed.
It is for this reason I guess why our church in the Philippines can stand any attempt at corruption by those sitting in the Philippine government. Hindi tumatanggap ng supot ng pera ang simbahan namin. Nag-aabuloy pa nga kami through tithes and fast offerings. First Sunday of the month is fasting day in our church, and the money we are supposed to use for our food, we give to charity.
Kaya sinong may sabing laos na ang turo tungkol sa pagbabayad ng tithings and fast offerings?! Less temptation pa iyan to accept bribes sa totoo lang. Kasi mag-iisip ka. Of course, kung maka-Diyos talaga ang isang tao, hindi tatanggap ng perang marumi at galing sa isang kriminal!!!
Akoy na-aawa sa nangyari kay Erap. Wala akong naririnig o nababasa na ganitong mga pangyayari noong siya ang Pangulo pero pinagtulungan siya ng mga taong akala mo sila ang pinakamagaling magpatakbo ng isang Bansa. Pero anong ginawa nila bawat isa sa kanila ay kanya-kanyang style sa pangungurakot. Kahit harap-harapan na ay ayos lang sa kanila. Binayaran nila ang mga General, ang mga Justices, mga Pari para maluwag nilang magawa ang mga katiwalian nila. Kung sinasabi nilang si Marcos ay isang masamang Pangulo, palagay ko walang mas masama pa kay Glorya. Bayan ko gumising ka na!!!!!
Ystakei, your church may not be accepting donations but makes business investments. Tutoo bang maraming negosyo ang church niyo? That explains why you don’t need other people’s help ’cause you invest your members’ money in business. Please don’t be offended by my question. Naikuwento mo din lang ang simbahan niyo, sana huwag kang magalit sa tanong ko.
yuko: ang naobserve ko dito sa States..the line is clearly drawn-in the separation of the church and the state. I have been here more than 30 years and I have not seen nor heard of the President giving money to a sect..directly to the leaders..ministers, priests etc. grants the gov’t gives but they are all accounted.. Si gloria- ay tunay na macapal-gal. Tama ka the mission of all churches is to bring people to God..what frustrates me is dapat religious leaders should live gospel to life; life to gospel. I admire St. Francis “one should be a witness of his faith..and to his fans he says “preach, if necessary use words.” yon ang hinahanap ko sa mga religious leaders..be an example. Quite frankly, I don’t see that in the many priests or nuns of the catholic church in the Phil. I don’t believe in the “means justifies the end” kaya asar ako sa sagot na “ang tinatangap na pera na binigay ng palasyo ay ok lang tanggapin kung gamitin sa mahihirap” ang ibig bang sabihin- puedeng tanggapin ang pera (kahit nakaw) at ibigay sa mahihirap? hindi ata tama..
Will somebody please send Bishop Bacani a video or news clippings of that aborted 1,000,000 strong planned Protest Rally last year at the Luneta… which the CBCP watered down into a Thanksgiving Prayer Rally after they had a breakfast meeting with The Woman… and where “donations” were passed around?
Time to do something more than just spout words of puzzlement, dear Bishop. Redeem yourselves.
Hinahanap ng isang bishop ang galit ng tao? Sa totoo lang naghihintay lang ang mga tao ng mga tradisyunal na mamumuno (isa na ang CBCP dito) para tuluyan nilang maipakita ang kanilang galit. Por dyos por santo, wag na tayong maghintayan pa, wag nyo sanang asahang ang common tao pa ang mamuno…simulan nyo at maaasahan nyo ang positibong reaction ng tao, kasama na ang inaasahang pagsawsaw ng mga papapel na politiko, militar at elitista, hehehe…
Ang hirap kasi sa Pinoy, tayo e may pagka-sigurista. Hinihintay muna na makaamoy ng tagumpay bago kumilos. Paminsan-minsan, sumugal naman tayo. Kaya tayo di umaasenso, matindi ang fear natin na mawala ang hawak na natin. Ayaw nating sumugal. Dapat marealize natin na habang tayo ay nagpapakiramdaman, lalo lang nating binibigyan sina Gloria at kanyang mga kampon ng pagkakataong maka-iwas pusoy para lalo pa tayong magago. Alam nila ang weakness natin kaya dapat sorpresahin natin sila para di na makaporma pa. Strike while the iron is hot.
Sabagay, pinakamaganda sana kung makakamtan natin ang pagbabago ng di dadaan sa EDSA 4. Pero sa klase ng diskarte at attitude nina Gloria at kanyang mga kampon (sementado sa kapal ang mga mukha), ang dapat sa kanila e golpe de gulat.
Protest rally na ginawang Thanksgiving prayer rally…we all remember that. Kung ginawa nila noon, kayang gawin uli ngayon if the price is right. Right, our beloved Holy Bishops?
Dear Bishops, last year your flock was raring to do battle with the Wolf. It turned out their shepherds was having breakfast with the Wolf.
Recall the sequence of events shortly after the exposure of the “Hello, Garci” recordings. Susan Roces’s “Ang kapatid ng sinungaling ay magnanakaw” speech, Cory’s plea for GMA to step down, the resignation of the “Hyatt 10,” and then one Sunday afternoon, we sat with bated breaths before our television sets, waiting to hear the CBCP announce its own “Gloria Resign” position — na hindi naman dumating.
And now The Woman is starting to meet with the bishops again. Same story.
The CBCP stand on “Hello Garci” broke the momentum.
And she shall reign, forever and ever.
Gloria should be so lucky. There’s no towering galvanizing figure like Ninoy in the opposition ranks.
But I’m glad the disparate opposition forces continue to do battle by exposing all the corruption and abuses of woman and her gang.
She is continuously being forced against the wall. Getting off-balanced. Her aides off-balanced, too. Now uncoordinated, panicking, grabbing at straws. Looking foolish, ridiculous. Getting more garapal. Therefore, more easily pinned against the wall.
This barrage of jabs and blows will wear them down. One lucky punch will bring her and her gang down.
the water is calm at its deepest depth…
I had hoped that the new man at the Defense Department, Secretary Gilbert Teodoro, would have an impact on reforms in the military. He seems like an educated fellow. But he is starting to parrot the same monotonous refrain of Esperon.
“The AFP is united behind the chain of command,” he says.
Mr. Teodoro should not forget that the ultimate source of the chain of command is the public. And it is clear as day the public did not vote Gloria into the presidency.
Phil and Bibeth, the reason why CBCP is soft on GMA is because they intend to make her a “saint”. Halong tumatagal lalong dumarami ang mga lumalayas sa simbahan. To be honest with you, I’ve been searching for another church to join and never to return to my Catholic faith. Simula pa iyan noon panahon ni Cardinal Sin. Si Sin (RIP) ang isa sa sumira sa aking Catholic faith.
Anong walang papalit kay gloria peedal?
Eh nandyan naman si Nana?
biruin mo ang BADNANA REPUBLIC ang may pinakamalaking empire?
kung ang soviet union ay tinatawag noon na may malaking kasakupan, maluluma ito sa PEEDERAL Republic ng Badnana!
Isipin mo nalang ang otsentay UNO na constituent republics nito?
diba kaDAKO?
tumingin ka na lang sa iskay at sumakay.
pechanco,
I very well understand your position. Can’t blame you.
But what I don’t like about the stand of the bishops is para bang ginagago ang publiko. Atras abante. They call out for the troops and yell “Charge!”. Then cry “Ay mali.. Atras!”
To the CBCP:You are as guilty as Gloria for tolerating all her excesses all these years.Your “critical colloboartion” with her gave her the confidence to commit all her excesses.
‘Depart from me, accursed ones, into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry, and you did not give me to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take me in; naked, and you did not clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them saying, ‘Amen I say to you, as long as you did not do it for one of these least ones, you did not do it for me.’ And these will go into everlasting punishment, but the just into everlasting life.”
Huwag na kayong umasa sa mga bishop na yan. Corrupt din sila. Wala na rin silang moralidad dahil nasisikmura nila ang kagagahan ni gloria at pidal family. Nag-iingay lang ang mga yan. Pag sinupalpalan na naman ni gloria ang bunganga nila ng milyones. Tahimik na naman sila.
I still believe in God but not those priest.
Kasama dapat sisihin ang mga aktibistang congressman natin na kasama sila sa pag plano patalsikin si Erap noon. katulad nina Ocampo, Beltran ,Etc. nag pulong sila nina Gloria kung papaano nila mapapa alis si Erap. Ngayon ano na ang nangyari sa bansa natin. Sila rin ang may kasalanan , lalo na ang mga Cardinal na palaging naka sahod ang kamay para sa “CASH GIFT”. Ngayon ano ang napala nila. Pag katapos nilang matulungan si Gloria ay sila naman ang pinapakulong (Buti nga sa kanila).
Nag iingay ang mga General at Cardinal dahil hindi sila na abutan ng pera. Sabi nga nila ay papaano naman kami.
Katulad ng “Please Impeach Me” , Ngayon ay “Please Invistigate Me”.
When people are denied a means to express or redress their grievances through a participatory and accountable political system, they will turn to other means to change intolerable conditions.The church becomes catalyst of the last resort for political change. Religion also provides a compelling mechanism for change by mobilizing large numbers of people who fearlessly stand up to their oppressors, and who are motivated in part by religion’s inherent demand for more humane and orderly societies in this life. So it was understandably worrisome to Marcos regime the past EDSA I and to Erap on EDSA II to see hundreds of thousands of ordinary men and women take to the streets, just as it was heartening to the rest of the world that would like to see the end of such dictatorships of Marcos.
I hope Bacani is true to his words. Then we can see another EDSA III in the offing for Gloria. It doesn’t matter who will lead the ouster of Malacanang illegal tenant and Filipino need to do it now. This is a hopeful account of the potential for organizational change and improvement within government. Despite the mantra that “Illegal and corrupt president resist change,” it is possible to effect meaningful reform in a large masses in all walks of life in unison, Punggok will not resign.
kailangan daw kasi ay may umbrella?
ibaligtad lang ang umbrella, siguradong makakasahod!
si kabayad na kasi ang uupo!
“Ako ay nalulungkot dahil parang wala masyadong reaksyon ang mga tao at para bang naging manhid na tayo sa kawalanghiyaan na nangyayari,” Bacani said.
Bakit Mr. Bacani (hindi dapat kayong matawag na Cardinal eh) ngayon mo lang ba naramdaman ito na ginagago tayo. Noon pa ito Mr. Bacani. Puputak na naman kayo dahil hindi ba kayo nabigyan ng datung. Ngayon lang kayo nalungkot? bakit nga ba. Naka ilang pandadaraya na ba ang ginawa ng Ninang ninyo at ngayon lang ninyo masasabi na nalulungkot kayo. Itanong ninyo sa Ninang ninyo dahil baka mabigyan kayo ng datung.
Kung si Gloria ay pinapangit ang Bansa natin ay ganoon din kayo na binababoy ninyo ang Simbahan.
vonjovi2;
Katulad ng “Please Impeach Me” , Ngayon ay “Please Invistigate Me”
Palusot iyan ng mga studyante na nahuli sa akto na may kodigo sa oras ng exam.Parang sa loob ng simbahan iyan na kapag may umutot,iyong umutot ang kunyari ay naghahanap ng masisisi at ibaling sa iba para hindi siya mapahiya sa madlang pipol.Kinalakihan na kasi ni Punggok ang ganyang pag-uugali na uhugin at laging umuutot sa loob ng simbahan na may kasamang palitaw sa puwit at kapag napansin siya ng katabi niya “Oy hindi ako ang umutot,ikaw iyon!”
Rose: kaya asar ako sa sagot na “ang tinatangap na pera na binigay ng palasyo ay ok lang tanggapin kung gamitin sa mahihirap” ang ibig bang sabihin- puedeng tanggapin ang pera (kahit nakaw) at ibigay sa mahihirap? hindi ata tama..
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Sinabi mo pa, Rose, parang sinabi na kahit galing kay Lucifer basta ginamit sa mga mahihirap OK lang! Mali iyan. Iyan ang katwiran ng mga taong walang tiwala in fact sa Diyos. Sabi nga ni Jesus Christ, “Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls?” (Luke 12: 24) which means that God will provide, and there is no need to accept any deceiptful gifts from the devil.
Tawag doon sa katwiran maging noong paring gobernador ng Pampanga ngayon, “Gamitan!” Yuck talaga!
Puede ba Pechanco kung gagawa ka ng salita, i-confirm mo muna ang source mo. Walang business ang church namin. Ang business na sinasabi mo ay mga personal businesses ng mga miyembrong walang kinalaman sa simbahan namin. Bawal sa simbahan namin ang mangalakal at kalakalin ang mga miyembro ng simbahan. Walang nagsusuweldo sa mga naninilbihang lider ng simbahan namin para sabihin mong may business ang simbahan namin. Kung interesado ka, bakit hindi ka magsimba at mag-obserba sa ginagawa ng mga members ng simbahan namin.
Ang mga bishops, etc. namin ay may kani-kaniyang trabaho at sariling mga negosyo na walang kinalaman sa simbahan. Ang pagsisilbi nila sa simbahan ay boluntaryo, at walang sinusuwelduhan!!! In short, nagsa-sacrifice lahat! Ganyan ang mga tunay na Kristyano at maka-Diyos sa totoo lang!!!
Rose,
I should add na hindi ba nila alam na si Lucifer ay “Father of Lies and Deceipt” kaya lahat ng galing sa kaniya ay para tuksuhin ang lahat para magkasala? Ganyan din ang ginagawa noong Mother of Lies and Deceit ng Pilipinas! Kaya ano ang sinasabing katwiran noong pari? Nakakaalibadbad!!!
Alam ninyo na may Advantage at Disadvantage rin ang pag tanggap ng suhol galing kay Ninang Tiyanak.
Advantage ay kung kukunin mo ang pera at kung tunay na gagamitin sa tamang paraan ay maganda kahit papaano. At least ay nagamit mo at may natulungan ka diba. Ang ADVANTAGE lang ay para sa matitinong opisyal ng gobyerno natin saka kahit papaano ay balik ang ibang ninakaw nilang pera sa taong bayan( iyun nga lang ay parang sinkong centimo lang sa percent ng ninakaw nila).
Disadvantage ay kung hindi mo tatangapin at isosoli mo ang pera ay sa iba naman nila ipapang suhol at mapupunta sa bulsa ng mga matatakaw na Kotongress. Walang mahihirap na mabibiyaan.
Ika nga “Please Impeach Me” Now “Please Invistigate Me”.
at ano naman ang paki ng simbahan? gago rin kasi tayong mga umaasa sa simbahan. kaya nga umalis si martin luther dahil na rin sa panloloko ng simbahan.
gusto ng mga obispo na yan, tumanggap lang ng tumanggap ayaw namang magbigay… CBCP, nagbabayad ba kayo ng tax? wala kayong karapatang makialam sa gobyerno kung wala kayong tax na ibinabayad. kaming mga taxpayer ang dapat sumakit ang loob dahil hindi naibabalik sa amin ang dapat ay para sa amin. ginagago kasi ninyo ang mga tao. ayaw ninyo sa contraceptives, pero iba ang sinisisi nyo dahil sa marami ang nagugutom. ‘langhiya naman oo!
i was able to watch a tv show a long time ago where on this channel, a priest is arguing about the stand of the church against contraceptives. then when i transferred to another channel, another priest was there, decrying the state of philippine poverty where parents cannot feed their children and send them to school because of too many children in the family. what an irony!
patalsikin si gloria, pero hindi na dapat simbahan ang mamuno…
sabi ni Bacani, “malapit nang mapuno ang CBCP” (sa ginagawa ni Gloria). Hehehehe, anong PUNO kaya ibig nilang sabihin?
Ang mga Pari, Madre at Bishop
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Ang mga Pari, Madre at Bishop
Bakit hindi ako maka post
Just testing!
Patalsikin na, now na!
Ang mga Pilipino matiisin
Sa katitiis nito, tingnan mo ang nangyari?
SA KATITIIS MO
Ang doktor kapag nagkamali? …sa sementeryo ang bagsak!
Ang abogado kapag nagkamali? …sa kulungan ang bagsak!
Ang katisismo kapag nagkamali? …sa impyerno ang bagsak!
hanggang kailan ka magtitiis?
SOC-ki na lang ba tayo lagi ng katitiis?
kaya nga sinabi na, “kapag ang kabayo ay nalito, sa pagmamartilyo ang punta mo!”
HAMMER!
pukpuk!
kaya nga daming nagiging poc-poc
babae’t lalakwe! naghahanap ng ikapu-puhay nila!
Squashedhead:
Kaya umalis si M. Luther sa simbahan ay dahil ayaw niyang mahirapan. Bakit nga naman kasi kailangan pang magsakripisyo para sa kaligtasan ng kaluluwa e, namatay na nga si Kristo sa krus. Pero eka nga ni San Pablo, “work out for your salvation with fear and tremble.”
Nung magprotesta siya, may ilang libro ng Lumang tipan ang tinanggal niya dahil hindi daw iyon sangayon sa pinaniniwalaan niya. Kaya ang banal na aklat ng mga protestante kulang ng 6 na libro ng lumang tipan.
Ang nakakadismaya dito sa mga Obispo natin ngayon, matagal nang may mali, paminsan minsan lang mag-ingay. Matagal ng mali, tahimik pa rin. Ngayon lang nag-iingay.
Yung maid of Orleans noon, palibhasa may vision at talagang mali sa kanya ang mali, lakas loob na humarap sa mga Ingles para lang paalisin sila sa Pransiya. May basbas ng mga pari ang kanyang mission noon. Nung mahuli siya, pinapatay siya ng mga paring Ingles. Pero namutawi sa mga labi ng mga pari na “pumatay sila ng isang Santo.”
Ngayon, iba na ang ihip ng hangin. Malaki talaga ng krisis na hinaharap nila. Pero ayaw nilang magsabi ng totoo tungkol sa krisis na iyan. Sa halip na turuan ang mga tao ng dapat nilang ituro, binwisit ang mga tao. May mga pari noon na king kumontra sa mali, matutuyuan na ng laway sa kakasabi sa mga tao kung ano ang dapat gawin para kontrahin ang mali. Ngayon tameme!
Okay na sana ang usapan sumabat tong si Bacani. Pwede ba, wag ka ng makisawsaw. Matalino na to ano.
Pechanco: Tapusin mo na ang paghahanap mo, diretso ka na lang kay Bossing. Sometimes its a little bit embarassing but just for the heck of personal experience, if you will trace the root of bribery, remember how we were taught in our faith to file our petition to the saints even if we can go directly to the Lord. They made it so difficult for us to know the truth. Just think about it!
I agree with you with Cardinal Sin, as I have already mentioned in the other thread. Iba ang sinasabi sa ginagawa nila.
I saw on the news some stooges from the palace claiming it was the opposition who handed those bags/envelope. For pete’s sake, we may look like stupid but we are not.
Di bale maauubusan din ng lie ang mga iyan. They have to create more lies in order for them to cover one lie. At the rate is going, 1 is 10 ang ratio. From ZTE to now. How many so far? What about the cover-ups they need in order to justify the other lies. Patience na lang, konti na lang, mauubusan din yan.
Basta ako ang alam ko umatras na ang Investors ko dahil sa relentless barrages of graft and corruptions. I cant blame them, even if I almost fainted when they backed out. Okay lang kesa magamit pa ni Gloria as her economic weapon. di na bale. Sa susunod na lang.
Tama! Lagi na lang tayong binibigyan ng false hopes nitong CBCP na ito. Has anyone been trying to write letter to the CBCP about how we feel about them now? They just keep crashing our hopes whenever they bring us a very few moments of joy.
I’ve lost my faith ever since Cardinal Sin ruined it for me. God bless his soul, but, I’m still not a big fan of what the late Cardinal did.
inidoro bacani,
matagal ng galit ang tao. naging manhid na nga lamang dahil sa mga pagsawsaw ninyo na matapos bayaran ay para kayong mga ratbu na lumalambot kapag nahimas ng salapi ni gloria arrovo.
mabuti pa sa inyo ang sipon kapag natutuyo ay tumitigas na kulangot!
iisa lamang ang mapagkakatiwalaan nating alagad ng simbahan – si arsobispo oscar cruz.
mrivera:agree!
isa pa.
bakeshop bacani, tutal kasam ka ni mariano velarde sa el shamedai, doon ka na lang sa kanya. malaki ang kita tuwing mat gawaing dinadaluhan ng mga uto ninyong tagasunod.
huwag ka ng makisawsaw sa isyu ng pagsuka ng tao sa ninang mong anak ng maligno!
…..malaki ang kita tuwing MAY gawaing dinadaluhan ng mga uto ninyong tagasunod.
out of topic (newsflash!)
explosion in glorieta, makati kills 4… could be lpg explosion, though….
“Hinamon ni Department of the Interior and Local Government (DILG) Secretary Ronaldo Puno si Speaker Jose de Venecia na magpakatotoo.
Kailangan na raw sagutin ni de Venecia ang mga balitang siya ang nasa likod sa alegasyong “suhulan” para sirain ang imahe ni Pangulong Arroyo.DZMM”
Believe it or not from Spin Dr.Puno
makati bombing;fake assassination ploys again?then emergency rule?
Emergency rule is possible if indeed the AFP ia 100% solid behind bulilit!
Emergency rule is possible if indeed the AFP is 100% solid behind bulilit!
Breaking News:
Explosion rocked Glorieta Mall 2 at 1:28PM Manila time. Initial report said that the explosion has been caused by an LPG. It was Leah Navarro whose sister, Leanna Navarro was at the site when the explosion happened gave the first interview to Tony Velasquez of ANC/ABS-CBN Global transmission.
There were already 6 dead and more than 50 injured as per information given by Red Cross to NDCC Head Dr. Anthony Golez.
The police are still determining the cause of the explosion with sniffing dogs.
Puno is compared to a cuttlefish spurting out ink. He inhabit the corrupt world of politics, so we can expect to encounter equally corrupt speech from him. After all, he is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. His spin is essential to enabling mask the truth and exposed lies in order for his master to survive the political turmoil.
yung explosion in glorrieta makati killed 6 people na. hindi kaya AFP ang may pakana nito? i wonder…..
authority 1: it’s NOT a bomb!
authority 2: it could be a bomb!
authority 3: it is a bomb!
authority 4: we are not sure if it is a bomb!
See! the authorities are essentially pissing in the wind on what had happened! i really wonder as of this time…
we are the PEOPLE!
the people have expressed their outrage in many countless occasions in the past and continues to do so; NOW, should be the Bishops turn to express their outrage and show firm solidarity with us!
where were you, dear Bishops, on Hello Garci scandal supposedly tackled on your last plenum; buckled down to pressures not from the High Above but induced and intoxicated by Malacanang act of temporalities?
what stopped you from expressing outrage on the extra-judicial killings, and on the forced disappearances of our dear activists and friends?
we, the people did NOT hear even a whimper much less an outrage when wanton disregard of people’s sovereign will and choice by Comelec attended last elections.
dear Bishops, run the risk of being drained down the bowels of History being an ignominious lot, by asking the people acts that are supposed to be yours.
the people, the people’s soldiers in and out the establishment have long taken up the fight, been mowed down but continues to be valiantly defiant to the cabals attending the bogus government.
where’s the people’s outrage?, Bacani wanted to know.
the question, is this some kind of sick joke?
cocoy:
I watched Puno being interviewed on television, for a start everyone and their uncle knows he is employed to discredit people particularly those against his master, but without that he came across as a paid jerk in trying to cloud the issue – the issue being the corrupt administaration bribing Congreemen, Governnors, Mayors and Businessmen but for all the waffle this Puno gave it didn’t wash, not for one moment. In fact Puno’s lies and cover-up made it worse.
What a dip stick he is.
Regarding the Glorrieta Makati, it appears that they cannot find any residue material at the scene. If this turns out to be true then it wasn’t your ordinary type of explosive but one only used by and supplied to the AFP.
Now, who will this point to, and for what reason? Do they think we are stupid, or what!
Right Mr Bishop, its good to see that you are awake and paying attention. Better to join your ‘people’ and tell this evil woman that enough is enough and that she should resign to avoid a civil war.
Masyadong malalim ang pagsabog sa Makati. Maaring gawa ng gobyerno para ma divert ang attention natin or warning iyon para sa kanya. Symbolical masyado. Glorieta Mall. Glorieta ( Gloria Punyeta) Mall ( or Mole = Nunal).Hehe
I am really amazed at the brazenness of the question of Bishop Bacani. “Where is the public outrage?”
The outrage had been there a long long time ago, dear Bishop. The public in fact took to the streets, not once but several times. What did you and your CBCP do? You watered down the anger and the momentum of that outrage.
Now you ask where it is? Just exactly what is it that you want the public to do? How do you want the public to express that outrage?
Didn’t you and the bishops dissuade the protesters from taking more drastic action? Didn’t you and the bishops say that you preferred getting rid of a “President” through the constitutional and legal way? Through an impeachment? Well, we tried that route thrice. So where are we now?
And now that the public reaction seems muted to you, you want it expressed more? How? Please tell us.
Assuming that the public outrage is that muted and you are outraged, what are you yourself going to do about it? You are a citizen. You are a voter. You have representatives in government. You voted your Senators, your Congressman, your Governor, your Mayor and your Councilors.
Why don’t you knock on their doors first and ask them “Where is your public outrage?” And while you’re at it, ask your friend Mike Velarde the same question.
Maganda panoorin ang Great Expectations (Ethan Hawke, Gwyneth Paltrow, Ann Bankrap)
Wala nasiraan na ng bait ang mga ungas. Sabi nga ni Euripides, “Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first makes mad.”
Taragis ginagawa pang mga inutil ang mga pilipino with all those claims that the Opposition would give those 500K and 200K to the allies of the unano. Ano sila sira? Noon ngang election, kaniya-kaniya na ngang lakad kasi walang pondo dahil na-hoard na ng mag-asawang mandarambong!!!
Puede ba, Patalsikin na, now na!
Lumang tugtugin na ang mga kinakanta ng mga tuta ni GLORC. Nakakasawa na. Puede ba iba naman? Palibhasa kasi mga bobo kaya walang laman ang mga utak. Puro gaya-gaya puto maya lang naman!
Patalsikin na, now na! Iyong mga T-shirt with these words, pakisuot na ulit!
Baka naman itong si Bacani, naghihintay lang matapunan din. Nainggit siguro doon sa paring kapampangan na nahagisan ng 500,000 pesos. Biglang half a millionaire iyong pare na tatanggapin daw ang pera kahit galing sa isang alagad ni Satanas para gamitin sa mga mahirap!
Di ba niya alam na delikado iyon? Sabi nga sa Bible
Mal. 2: 17: Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?
Moral Recovery Express? Sa panahon ni GMA, sayang na sayang ang pagkakataon sa wastong paggamit ng salitang Moral Recovery, sapagkat minsan nang ginamit ni FVR ang MORAL RECOVERY, kaya lang hindi ‘Express’ kundi ‘Program’. Nag-isyu ng isang Presidential Proclamation si FVR, at tinawag niya itong “MORAL RECOVERY PROGRAM”… period, period, period! walang katapusang moral recovery, hanggang ngayon, ito parin ang panawagan, at ang naging resulta’y nagsulsulputang diumano’y maanomalyang IPP-PPA Scam, PEA-AMARI Scam, CODE-NGO Scam, IMPSA DEAL, ZTE DEAL, at ang kulturang suhulan sa Malacañang, at marami pang iba… na mapasa-ngayon ay nananatiling nakabaon sa limot ng kasaysayan.
Hayop talaga yang Glorya na yan Ginagawa lahat para lang siya hindi ma-alis sa kanyang puwesto. Kahit ilan pang civilian ang mamatay. Walang kaluluwa!!! Mga Kabayan ko alisin na yan. Plis lang!!!!!
“Like much else connected with Marcos, the declaration of martial law had a theatrical, smoke-and-mirrors quality. The incident that precipitated Proclamation 1081 was an attempt, allegedly by communists, to assassinate Minister of National Defense Enrile. As Enrile himself admitted after Marcos’s downfall in 1986, his unoccupied car had been riddled by machinegun bullets fired by his own men on the night that Proclamation 1081 was signed.”
I hope and pray this will be NOT be the same scenario to divert attention from HER scandals!
Emergency rule? It will be difficult for Gloria and Asspweron, they know very well that there’s a strong line dividing the military. Kailangan ay walang hayagang kontra sa kanilang balak, otherwise ay sira ang plano ng impakta at ass.
But I don’t doubt that it’s the usual suspects behind this recent bombing, testing…testing…testing the waters!
The Equalizer,
I often visit your site, paki lagay nga iyong song na “We Are the People”. Thanks.
from ABSCBN online: “Reuters reported that police sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said traces of C4 plastic explosives were found at the location. The bomb appeared to have been left near a cellphone repair shop at the bottom of an escalator, they said.”
if this is true, di po ba AFP lang ang may access ng C4 plastix explosives?
C4 plastic, not plastix
Petite, please avoid kilometric comments. If you have a lot to say, break your comments. After three of roue paragraphs, submit , then continue.
Pwedeng gawa ng mga Gloria Generals ang pagsabog sa Makati para may dahilan sila na mag red alert at posibleng state of emergency para maapula ang nagbabadyang galit at pag-aalsa ng mga tao sa mga suhulan at korapsyon ng gobyerno. Alam namn natin na wala silang pakialam kung may madamay man na inosenteng tao basta manatili lang sila sa kanilang masarap na pwesto.
Nag-iimbestiga pa lang ang mga pulis dahil ang unang assessment ay posibleng LPG ang causeng pagsabog, ay sinasabi na ng kampo ni Gloria na bomba. Bakit alam nila agad? Malamang sila ang may gawa! Mga MAMAMATY TAO!
“Binabastos na ang Bayan”. Alam naman pala ni Bishop Bacani, ano ang kanilang ginagawa?
Hindi lang binabastos, binababoy pa sa kaalaman ng CBCP!
Impeach me, investigate me, ngayon bomb me.
Parang Tate yan ah. Yung Pearl Harbor, then Gulf of Tonkin, then WTC.
Or maybe, like Enrile, na-bomba daw, later inamin na peke pala.
Or like Joma, binomba ang Plaza Miranda, para kumuha ng simpatiya sa taong bayan. Ayun, naputol ang mga daliri ni Salonga.
Kung pepekehin niyo, bombahin si Esperon. You will get a resounding round of applause from the men in uniform.
At si Gloria ay pumapel agad at pumunta sa Makati Med para magpropaganda. Masyado yatang mabilis ang script.
Sana sa susunod sa Malakanyang na ang mabomba at kasama ang Demonic Family.
About the makati incident-kung totoo nga na C-4 explosive ang na-trace, nakikita ko na they’ll be pointing the finger straight to the anti-gloria side. Either another diversionary tactic from all the scams focus on them or a prelude to their itchy martial law?
My prayers for those people who lost their lives/injured and their love ones from the Makati mall incident…
Sama ako sa panalangin mo ipaglaban_mo. May the Lord comfort their families.
May the Lord have mercy and enable the people to kick her out.
Atty,
“Kung pepekehin niyo, bombahin si Esperon. You will get a resounding round of applause from the men in uniform.”
Sana lang ang maaatasan na mameke ay iyong galit na galit kay Asspweron at kay Gloria.
Oh, how selfish of me naman atty, let us all pray for the victims and families pala. not just me… 🙂
Sasabihin na naman ng mga nakatira na mga squatter sa Malakanyang, hindi kami ang nagpasabog, sabi naman ni Puno ay si deVenecia yan, sabi naman ni Ermita “kagagawan yan ng mga NPA o di kaya ng mga terorista”, sabi naman ni Bunye “magpakahinahon kayo dalawa lang ang may kagagawan nyan, kung hindi kami e di kayo.”
Kung nag-resign na sana siya e di hindi napahamak yong walong namatay sa pinasabog nila. Buhay na ang nakataya sa mga kalokohang pinag-gagawa niyan mga pamilya Arroyo. ILAN PA KAYANG BUHAY ANG MAPAPAHAMAK DAHIL LANG SA KAWALANGHIYAAN NILA???
Etnad,
Marami pang buhay ang isasakripisyo ni Gloria para manatili sa trono.
Kaya dapat ay hindi na nagtatanong si Bishop Bacani at kumilos na lang sila dahil buhay ng mga ordinaryong tao ang nakataya sa kapahamakan, as always.
ystakei Says:
October 19th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Puede ba Pechanco kung gagawa ka ng salita, i-confirm mo muna ang source mo. Walang business ang church namin. Ang business na sinasabi mo ay mga personal businesses ng mga miyembrong walang kinalaman sa simbahan namin.
…Mare, kaya nga tinatanong ko at may kasama pang paunang paumanhin. Bakit ka magre-react ng ganyan. You’re behaving like GMA who doesn’t want difficult questions. How can you say gawa ko lang ang salita eh tinatanong ko lang naman. Sa tutoo lang, mas marami pa akong naririnig sa inyo lalo na sa mga umalis o na-expel na. I never said and asked if your members have personal business. What I was asking if it was true (some) church funds are invested in business owned by the church. Basahin at isipin mo muna ang tanong bago ka mag-react. Kaya nga kung minsan may nakakabangga ka dito sa mga kasamahan natin. React ng react na wala sa lugar.
Off topic. thanks, Ellen.
Pechanco,
I believe you will find satisfaction in the practice of ZEN’s way of life. Boy Morales in his younger days (perhaps till now) was an active practitioner. He’s not in my batch (I was into it in my early 20’s), but in my older ZEN bros’.
Bishop Bacani, dagdag na naman sa people’s outrage yung bombing sa Ayala Mall2.
Suggestion lang po, pagnagsimba si Gloria at kayo ang magmimisa, wag nyong kalimutan yun shepard’s staff ninyo. Ihataw nyo kay Gloria at sa asawa niya at dun sa 2 na tongressman ngayon at yung si Luli na look alike ni Gloria. Pero babala din po, ihanda nyo rin yung sarili nyo, kasi baka tumayong mag-isa yung shepard’s staff nyo at kayo naman ang hatawin. Malaking kapabayaan na kasi yung ginagawa ninyo. Pati kasi simbahan na wala namang kinalaman sa pagiging estupido ninyong mga pari ay nadadamay.
Bishop Bacani, kung talagang nalulunkot kayo dahil tila manhid na ang mga pilipino sa mga kawalanghiyaan ni unano, bakit di kayo at ang CBCP ang magpasimuno ng unang hakbang tungo sa pagpapatalisik sa pekeng presidente? o baka naman ubos na ang inambag nya sa inyo kaya kayo nag-iingay ngayon.
bishop bacani lingid sa akalo mo, marami pa kaming mga pilipino na nasasaktan sa mga nangyayari sa ating bansa, baka ang CBCP ang manhid. Just try to recall what the CBCP had done so far since the hello garci tape scandal? what can you say bishop? tsatsing,tsatsing
Kung si Cardinal Santos nga ay wala rin nagawa..santos siya!
Si Cardinal Sin pa? Remember the cardinal sins? I can only think of 7 but dumami na ata ngayon.
Bishop Bacani: ang hinihintay ata ay baka marami siyang ma ani..waiting for the rich harvest…manna galing sa reyna ni Lucifer..
To expect a strong commitment from the Phil. Catholic Church to oust GMA is quite impossible…kung sa tingin ko mahirap mangyari ang “unity” sa atin mga Filipino mas lalong mahirap asahan ang Philippine catholic church particularly the archdiocese of Manila..Cardinal Rosales..blood is thicker than water..kamaganak siya ni Remedios Poblador…
The only hope I can think of is to change within ourselves..catholico o hindi basta may paniwala sa Dios..or a Supreme Power..and collectively we will triumph..let there be in peace and let it begin from me ang sabi nga.
Chi, what did you mean saying I can find satisfaction in ZEN’s way. Bihira lang naman sumulat dito iyon isang blogger na si Zen2 (?).
The influential Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) will not come out with a pastoral statement calling on President Gloria Arroyo to step down from office, at least not until November when a meeting of bishops will take place.
—-Sa November kasi ang bigayan ng mga white envelopes for Christmas.
“Bishop: Where’s the people outrage? ”
Saan ba ang akala nyo? kasi di kayo dumadalaw sa Ellenville. Dont worry now that you open your mouth, FYI, sa inyo and peoples outrage.
Ellen: Hopefully the media as a body show the Bishops that they no longer have the support of the people. There should be no more media coverage to whatever announcement they may have. Bigyan na lang ng DEADMA treatment.
sec ermita on gloria arroyo: she has her own way of managing and running the affairs of the goverment. yeah kapit tuko sa pwesto ermita you were right. your boss “tiyanak” manages the goverment thru double talk, thru power of the money like bribery and all sorts of scandal.
“coup is the last thing to do” from sen hungassan. ganyan na ang tonoi mo ngayon kasi natapalan na ng milliuions and millions and millions ang prinsipiyo mo kaya hayan naghuhugas kan na hungassan he he he GREGORIO HUNGASSAN.
BISHOP VILLEGAS AT CARDINAL ROSALES ALAM NAMIN NA SA ORAS NA ‘TO AY NAKAHIGA KAYO SA MILYON-MILYON NA TINATANGGAP NINYO MULA MALACANAN THRU MEDY POBLADOR A RELATIVE OF THE SUWAPANG THE CARDINAL ROSALES.
damag 46;
“coup is the last thing to do”
I agree with you But,.I do not mean to say that our freedom must be won at the barrel of machineguns and armalite. The guns now counts for very little in the destinies of our time, but do I say that we must win our freedom by deserving it, by improving the mind and enhancing the dignity of the individual loving what is just, what is good, what is great to the point of dying for it. When a people reach these heights, God provides the weapon, and the idols and the tyrants fall, like a house of cards, and freedom shines in the first dawn. Our misfortunes are our own fault, let us blame nobody for them… As long as the Filipino people do not have sufficient vigor to proclaim, head held high and chest bared, their right to life in human society and to guarantee it with their sacrifices, with their very blood; so long as we see our countrymen feel privately ashamed, hearing the growl of their rebelling and protesting conscience, while in public they keep silent and even join the oppressor in mocking the oppressed, as long as we see them wrapping themselves up in their selfishness and praising with forced smiles the most despicable acts, begging with their eyes for a share of the booty, why give them independence? They would be the same and perhaps worse.
What is the use of independence if the slaves of today will be the tyrants of tomorrow? And no doubt, they will, because whoever submits to tyranny loves it!
Akoy nalulungkot kung bakit si Bishop Bacani ay di sumama sa caravan..!
Nasaan na ba si FVR ngayon? Paging FVR, we wanted to hear from you.
Daamags46: Kung ano si Gloria ngayon itanong mo kay Ermita kung bakit. Magaling na mentor si Ermita.
totie, you were right when you said ermita is the mentor of gloria “tiyanak” arroyo
Tilamsik: Okay lang na di sumama sa caravan, di naman kailangan ang mga katulad niya. He is a liability not an asset. Nagsalita na kasi baka nakakuha ng passes sa Vatican.
Damags: Nandyan pa ba yang si Ermita or nasa labas. Kung nasa labas yan, dapat tanungin ng husto. Si Kringgo nandyan din ba? Lahat ng mga wala dyan suspect.
si bacani, tulog pa yun. napuyat sa katatanghod kay mike velarde at sa pagbibilang ng ambag na tatanggapin niya kagabi. bakit kaya hinayaan ng simbahan ang ganitong mga gawain ni velarde. halos kinokontra na nya ang mga doktrina ng simbahan at sabi nila ayaw nila sa mga kulto na ginagamit ang relihiyon? eh ang grupo ni velarde, ano tawag nyo doon?
pechanco & ystakei,
peace brethrens, peace!
about sa business interest ng mga pari,, try nyo verify ang mga first incorporators at nagtatag ng PROBANK, RURAL BANK OF PANABO ETC. or most commonly known today as ONE NETWORK BANK, baka makita nyo sagot doon
Totie Says:
October 19th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
I saw on the news some stooges from the palace claiming it was the opposition who handed those bags/envelope. For pete’s sake, we may look like stupid but we are not.
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With all the twists Malacanang is foisting regarding the bribery issue, kung sino-sino na ang itinuturong mastermind ng suholan blues. bukas, baka si erap naman ang iturong pasimuno. i won’t be surprised at baka next week si Jose Rizal na ang ituro.
ystakei & pechanco:
hey, take it easy ladies & gentlemen. we can disagree without being disagreeable. walang personalan, constructive lang ok?
Squashedhead,
“bakit kaya hinayaan ng simbahan ang ganitong mga gawain ni velarde.”
Iyan ang tanong na dapat ay linawin muna ni Bacani bago siya maghanap ng “people outrage”.
By allowing Velarde to do what he wants contributed to the horrible situation pinoys are in today. I’m a Catholic and I say Velarde is a leader of a cult of inverted umbrellas!
Bacani: Where’s the people’s outrage?
Matagal ng OUT ang RAGE namin.
Dapat ang tanong: Where’s your cardinal? Buhay pa ba? Komportable ba sa kanyang Palasyo? Nasaan ang mga nagkunwaring mga pastol ng mga tupa?
Kailangan pa ba naming humawak ng itak upang maramdaman nyo ang RAGE namin?
Bacani might have been misquoted. He could have asked “Where’s our share?”. Bear in mind that Bacani is the spiritual adviser of Bro. Mike Velarde. Velarde is not that clean…Kaya nga tahimik din at walang comment tungkol sa bribery.
Three days ago the Bishops were asking ‘Where’s people’s outrage?’ It has taken only three days for the Bishops to do an about turn by telling the people not to point fingers at the government. Thats why the congrgations are dwindling to a trickle. Lost credibility, wake up Bishops.
congregations even – smile