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Razon: Valeroso is with DENR, ex-cop

From ABS-CBN:

The national police chief on Saturday admitted that Senior Police Officer 4 Roger Valeroso, who was initially identified as one of Rodolfo “Jun” Lozada’s escorts at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport upon his arrival, is a former member of the Philippine National Police (PNP), ABS-CBN News learned.

PNP chief Director General Avelino Razon Jr. explained that on Wednesday morning, when reports of Lozada’s alleged abduction surfaced, they checked on their list of active personnel but did not find Valeroso in their roster.

A further search, however, revealed that Valeroso is a retired policeman and is working at the Department of Environment and Natural Resources.

Razon also said it was Valeroso who introduced members of the Police Security and Protection Office (PSPO) to Lozada when they escorted him from the airport.

Meanwhile, Razon said he is willing to testify at a Senate hearing on the national broadband network controversy on Monday.

Razon, speaking on radio dzMM, said he wants to set the record straight and dispute allegations Lozada was kidnapped at the airport.

“Well, ako sisipot para maliwanag [ang] isyung yan. ‘Pag di sumipot, talo tayo. ‘Di humarap na lang tayo (Well, I will go there to clarify this issue. If I don’t go, it’s our loss. Better that we face them),” Razon said.

Razon called Lozada’s accusations “unfair,” insisting that he sought their help and protection because the witness feared for his life.

Razon added that members of the PSPO who escorted Lozada can also attend the Senate hearing.

Aside from Razon, the Senate also invited other personalities mentioned by Lozada in his testimony Friday, including Environment Secretary Lito Atienza.

It was retired Brig. Gen. Angel Atutubo, airport assistant general manager for Security and Emergency Services, who said that it was Valeroso who escorted Lozada from the airport after the latter arrived from Hong Kong.

Lozada when grilled by senators at Friday’s hearing on the scrapped NBN deal disputed police reports that he asked for security upon his arrival. He also said that he was not able to move freely when he was fetched by unidentified men from the airport and even when he was still at the dormitory of La Salle Greenhills in Mandaluyong City.

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37 Comments

  1. balweg balweg

    Sumaryosep naman, retired pulis patola pala itong si SPO4 Valeroso eh ano ang papel de liha niya sa buhay at siya ang kumuha kay Hon. Lozada sa airport? WHY, Gen, Atutubo and Gen. Razon?

    Kayo ha may pagkapilyo talaga, magpapalusot pa eh bokya naman? Di po tanga ang Pinoy, baka akala nýo eh gunggong ang Masang Pilipino eh nagkakamali kayong lahat.

    Wag na kayong magpalusot pa at lalo kayong mababaon sa burak, akala nýo kayo lang ang Pulis sa Pinas, kami rin eh may pamilyang kabaro nýo kaya wag na kayong maglubid ng kung anu-anong salita sapagka’t lalo kayong nagiging sinungaling sa taong-Bayan.

  2. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Re: Valeroso who introduced members of the Police Security and Protection Office (PSPO) to Lozada when they escorted him from the airport.

    Aso pala ni DENR chief Lito Atienza si ex-SPO4 Valeroso. Impersonating a police is illegal. Patong patong na ang mga krimen ng Malacanang.

  3. balweg balweg

    Hoy mr. Atienza ang tanda mo na eh para kang walang pinagkatandaan, di ba ikaw ang bosing ng DENR at mukha atang tirador mo itong si SPO4 ha, lagot ka sa pulis kay Gen. Razon kasi sumbong ka ni Gen. Atutubo na si Valeroso ang naglabas kay Hon. Lozada sa NAIA.

    Umamin na, pagnaglubid ka pa ng kasinungalingan eh sayang ang iyong lahi, makonsensiya ka naman para sa mga susunod pang lahi Pinoy sapagka’t bokya na kayo eh kanya-kanya pa ng hirit.

    Paghumirit ka pa eh kailangan kang magpaliwanag sa sambayanang Pinoy, bakit at ano ang papel ni SPO4 sa pagdating ni Lozada, eh di ba retired ka na at civilian employee kung totoo man sa DENR ni bosing Atienza.

    Ano ba ang trabaho ni SPO4 sa DENR at siya ang napag-utusang sumundo kay Hon. Lozada sa airport. Kayo ha may pagkapilyo talaga, buti na lamang at naging mabilis ang followed up ng mga taga-media eh baka kung nagkataon eh maging ala Dacer yang pobre.

    Love talaga kayo ni Lord dahil iniwas kayo na madungisan ang inyong mga kamay. Eh nawa sana sa mabuti kayo pumanig at wag pagamit sa kadiliman.

  4. balweg balweg

    Kgg. DKG, kita mo lumabas din ang katotohan, bokya na sila eh magsisihirit pa!

    Grabe talaga sila, retired SPO4 pala itong si Valeroso eh sino ba siya para kumatawan sa pagsundo kay Hon. Lozada? Dapat itong si Atienza eh pitpitin ang itlog para umamin ng totoo at pawang katotohanan lamang. Sa departamento pala niya naka payroll itong si SPO4 at ano ang kanyang trabaho doon at nakaiksena pa.

    Di kaya tirador ito ni Atienza dahil dating SPO4?

  5. ELLEN and friends in ELLENSVILL:

    The Equalizer did a “quick and dirty ” research to get feedbacks from the general public regarding Jun Lozada,the Star Witness (or WETNESS per Sergio Apostol)in the the ZTE-NBN Scandal:

    1)A Shell gas attendant: “Bilib na bilib ako kay Lozada,itinaya ang buhay para magsabi ng katotohanan”

    2)A young businessman: “I admire him for his guts.But knowing the current administration,I fear for his life.I think Jun Lozada is a walking deadman!”

    3)A young housewife: ” I just wonder what HER (mastermind’s) real intention in ordering the abduction of Lozada from the airport”

    4)A cashier in Shell Select:”Galit na galit ako noong kinidnap si Lozada ng mga tao ni Arroyo.

    5)A lola: “Kailan kaya magagalit talaga ang tao?”

    EQUALIZER COMMENT:” To the palace gang: DON’T DO ANYTHING TO JUN LOZADA WHICH YOU DON’T WANT GOD AND THE FILIPINO PEOPLE TO KNOW LATER ON!!

  6. Thanks, Equalizer.

  7. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    May sariling mafia si Lito Atienza sa Maynila. Baka tirador niya si Valeroso.

  8. Brownberry Brownberry

    Let’s see If indeed Razon would appear at the Senate hearing Monday. What if his boss Esperon and Commander-in-Cheap GMA prevent him from attending? Is Razon willing to risk his career? Razon must make his brothers in Masonry proud. He was so stupid not being able to find out that this Valeroso is a former cop. It’s easy to find him in the active and inactive database. Lito Atienza is now directly linked to the kidnapping. But anyway as for Razon, siguro nakokonsensiya na din ng kaunti. Many including Lozada say Razon is not really a bad guy.

  9. chi chi

    Isalang kaagad sa mainit na upuan ng Senado si Lito Atienza, dun sa opisina niya ang execution ng Lozada kidnapping!

    At si Little Mike Udong Defensor! Pumapel pa pala ulit itong tuta ni dirty Mama G!

    Lozada said Defensor asked him “to deny knowing anything about the national broadband network (NBN) project of the government”.

    On the other hand, Little Mike claimed that it’s Lozada who asked him “kung puwede bang gawan mo ako ng statement. Sabi ko, ‘Jun, hindi mo na kailangan ng statement. ‘Di sabihin mo na lang kung ano talaga ang nangyari,’”.

    Maliban sa Pidal mafia members, sino ang sira-ulo na maniniwala sa pamangking ito ni Brenda after he staged the kidnapping of Udong Mahusay?! Tapos na ang political career mo!

  10. Brownberry Brownberry

    Sa tagal ng pananahimik ni Mike Defensor, bakit nasangkot na naman siya ngayon? Tutoo pala ang balita na after his election defeat, labas-pasok uli sa Malacanang itong si Little Mike. He’s GMA’s trouble-shooter, that’s why. Emissary iyan ng Malacanang to Erap’s camp and other religious groups like INC. Kailangan pa rin ang tulong niya. Sinong maniniwala na kaya niya kinausap si Lozada ay para sabihin na sabihin ni Lozada ang katotohanan? Bakit nakialam si Little Mike? Utos siyempre ng Malacanang.

  11. chi chi

    Si Razon, hepe ng Panakot Ni Pidal (PNP, ay hindi na dapat pakinggan. Tuluyan na s’yang nawalan ng kredibilidad after the Lozada kidnapping!

  12. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    May puwestong naghihintay ka Mike Defensor pagkatapos ng one year ban. Siyempre pakitang gilas.

  13. happy gilmore happy gilmore

    i was listening to the radio show of Orly and Fernan at dzbb yday afternoon and they were discussing the alleged kidnapping of Lozada –

    according o Lozada he was kidnapped by armed men

    he boarded a toyota altis(?) with his two captors up front and he was ALONE in the back seat.

    sa history ng kidnapping – no one EVER leaves the victim ALONE in the back seat.

    tapos sabi pa ni Lozada na traffic sila – kung saan saan – s SLEX, sa LIBIS. if he indeed was fearful for his life (and at this time celebrity status na cya) – he couldve simply opened the door, ran out and shouted / attracted attention to himself.

    then sabi pa ni Lozada they ATE at OUTBACK, sosyal na mga kidnappers ito – pinapakain pa ng mamahalin yung victim….

    given the above – its really strange to call it a kidnapping….

    what do you guys think?

  14. Hindi si Valeroso ang kontrabida sa kidnapping na ito. Kung baga siya lang ang courier. Mas mabigat ang kasalanan ng mga mastermind na squatter sa Malacanang. Puede ba, huwag nang maghugas ng kamay si Gloria Dorobo na umaarte pang wala siyang alam. Ang kapal talaga ng mukha!

    About time Filipinos do not allow themselves to be hoodwinked again by this pretence of ignorance, etc. by the idiot. She should not be allowed to go scotfree again with all the available evidences that are incriminating to put her and her husband, and their cohorts to prison for life.

    Sipain na,ngayon na!!!

  15. Tigilan na ang turuan! Magkano ba ang bayad nila at tuwang-tuwa pa ang mga mokong na inaako ang kasalanan ni Greedy Fatso! Wow, bilib ka sa husay ng pag-corrupt sa mga sundalo at pulis na ito na nawalan na ng puri’t dangal, at hindi na marunong mahiya basta pera lang.

    Ganyan din ang nangyari doon sa mga pilipinang pinagpuputa sa Japan. Pera lang daw? Anyway, para sa nagbubugaw sa kanila gaya noong mga emissary ni Gloria Dorobo, bayani daw sila kaya anong masama na magputa sila? Ganyan-ganyan din siguro ang utak nitong mga kumidnap kay Lozada. Anong masama kahit patayin nila iyong tao maligtas lang s Tabatsoy dahil sa pangalong tiba-tiba sila! Yuck!

  16. magsasaka magsasaka

    aba dapat naman na magpakita si valeroso sa senado
    BAKA SIYA RIN ANG SUMUNDO KAY LINTANG BEDOL kaya nawawala na ngayon.

  17. magsasaka magsasaka

    buhay pa kaya si LINTANG BEDOL
    O LINTANG DEBOL NA SIYA NGAYON?????

    ISIP-ISIP PINOY

  18. Tuwing nabababanggit yung Dacer-Orbito double murder ngayon mas paniniwalaan ko yata kung may magsasabing ang totoong pumatay sa kanila ay tao rin ng Garapal na Mag-asawang Abusado para masisi si Erap.

    Tung tutuusin, bakit naman nila pinatay saka “itinago” sa lugar na madaling makita. Kung yung reporter ng People’s Journal na si Tim, ginawang abo ng mga bata ni Don Pepe kaya malinis. Matitinik yang sila Mancao at Michael Ray, tapos mag-iiwan ng ebidensiyang madaling mabuko.

    Malabo, diba?

  19. piping dilat piping dilat

    E kung retirado nga itong pulis na ito, tama lang na i-downgrade ang safety standards nang airport sa Pilipinas! Biro mo, retired police nakapasok sa mga restricted areas sa loob nang airport para dukutin si Lozada, para ilayo sa Senate Sgt-at-arms na susundo sa kanya… kita nyo na? hindi na bale na ma-downgrade ang status nang mga airport natin basta huwag lang mabuko ang krimen nila… (sino ba yung mga ungas na nagsasabing ang kapakanan ng bayan ang unang-una pinagkakaabalahan ni GMA? )

    Kung ordinaryong pulis lang ito, paano sya nagkaroon nang ganoong access sa premier airport sa Pilipinas?

    Wala na… full of contradictions ang mga pinagsasabi ng gobyerno tungkol sa incident na ito… halatang nagsisinungaling sila!

    Before, sabi nila a brother of Lozada requested PNP security in writing… then yung brother mentioned earlier, naging si Carmen Lozada yung sister ni Lozada… then itong si Carmen Lozada, nainterview sa radyo na galit na galit kay Sec. Puno! Pinalalabas daw ni Puno na sinungaling siya for telling the public na pinapirma lang siya ng request earlier pero naka ante date ang request na yun! … tapos naging si Atiensa ang nagrequest ng escort for Lozada…

    Also, sabi ni Lozada, pinagsabihan sya ng mga taong kasama nya na malalaman nila kung ano ang nai-txt nya mula sa cell phone nya kaya pinag-iingat sya sa pag-txt… therefore, may equipment sila to do those things… and why stop at monitoring txt messages, only? Shades of “hello garci” , don’t you think?

    Kung ako sa ABS-CBN o GMA network, kukunin kong writer nang tele-pantasya kung sino man ang gumagawa nang mga plots na ito…

  20. Dapat nang ituon ang kaso sa mga mastermind. Huwag nang payagan patagalin pa na imbestigahan si Valeroso dahil irrelevant iyan sa talagang since inaamin naman kung sino ang nag-abduct kay Lozada na sa totoo lang ay dpat na i-tratong isang kaso na personal para kay Lozada VS dito kay Valeroso, Atutubo, et al. Iba iyan doon sa kaso ng mga pilipino laban kay Fatso na People of the Philippines VS Jose Miguel Tuason Arroyo a.k.a. Jose Pida, et all!

  21. Anong sinasabi ni Pidal na wala siyang kasalanan? Bakit may kriminal ba na umamin ng kasalanan niya bago siya madakip? Maliban na lang siguro kung kaso ng nahuli sa akto. Admitted matalinong matsing ang ungas. Nagbabayad ng mga propsmen niya para hindi halatang siya ang mastermind. Nag-aral kaya ng tactic ang ungas sa mga Mafia? O inspired ng demonyo talaga ang ungas?

  22. Valdemar Valdemar

    Lozada called Atienza, his handler of his immediate predicament. Atienza assigned Valeroso, his triggerman to meet Lozada. Valeroso directed Razon to provide him with policemen. Thats why Razon was fumbling everywhere that even Lozada noticed. Valeroso wields a lot of clout that Atutubo respects.

  23. magsasaka magsasaka

    aba’y oo nga baka nga sila rin ang may kinalaman sa dacer-corbito case!

    Pero nasan na si lintang bedol?

  24. Ako noon pa ang duda kong yumari kay Dacer iyong mga grupo din ni Gloria Dorobo na may bendisyon ni FVR siguro para ipitin si Erap. Naawa ako kay Mr. Dacer kasi na-meet ko ang mamang iyan sa Tokyo. Ipinakilala ng isang kaibigan ko sa media. Mabait na mama, at walang sabit sa ulo. Magalang pa sa mga babae. Gentleman na tunay katulad ni Senator Pimentel.

    Pagbabayaran din naman nila ang ginagawa nilang kabuktutan sa totoo lang. Someday, hopefully, may masipag na magso-solve ng misteryo ng pagkamatay niya. Buti nakakatulog pa ang berdugo ng mga mga waa namang kasalanang pinapatay nila.

    Isa ngang member ng church namin binaril sa Zamboanga sa pagbatikos niya sa programa niya ng isang malakas na politiko doon na may kinalaman sa ginagawang peace and order problem noon na gustong isisisi kay Erap. Hanggang ngayon case unsolved ang kaso kasi iyong kasama niyang pinsan na nakakita sa nangyari natakot magsalita. Nakamotorsiklo na istilo ng mga kingpin na inuutusan ng mga politiko, et al. Modus operandi na nila na walang kinalaman sa ASG or NPA.

    Diyos mahabagin, wala na po bang katapusan? Please, Lord, tapusin na po ninyo!

  25. happy gilmore happy gilmore

    hmm, wala pang sumasagot sa mga tanong – di yata’t pipi ang mga kaibigan natin re this issue….

    i was listening to the radio show of Orly and Fernan at dzbb yday afternoon and they were discussing the alleged kidnapping of Lozada –

    according o Lozada he was kidnapped by armed men

    he boarded a toyota altis(?) with his two captors up front and he was ALONE in the back seat.

    sa history ng kidnapping – no one EVER leaves the victim ALONE in the back seat.

    tapos sabi pa ni Lozada na traffic sila – kung saan saan – s SLEX, sa LIBIS. if he indeed was fearful for his life (and at this time celebrity status na cya) – he couldve simply opened the door, ran out and shouted / attracted attention to himself.

    then sabi pa ni Lozada they ATE at OUTBACK, sosyal na mga kidnappers ito – pinapakain pa ng mamahalin yung victim….

    given the above – its really strange to call it a kidnapping….

    what do you guys think?

  26. Enteng Butete Enteng Butete

    according o Lozada he was kidnapped by armed men

    he boarded a toyota altis(?) with his two captors up front and he was ALONE in the back seat.

    sa history ng kidnapping – no one EVER leaves the victim ALONE in the back seat.

    tapos sabi pa ni Lozada na traffic sila – kung saan saan – s SLEX, sa LIBIS. if he indeed was fearful for his life (and at this time celebrity status na cya) – he couldve simply opened the door, ran out and shouted / attracted attention to himself.

    then sabi pa ni Lozada they ATE at OUTBACK, sosyal na mga kidnappers ito – pinapakain pa ng mamahalin yung victim….

    given the above – its really strange to call it a kidnapping….

    what do you guys think?

    Para sa akin, imagine nasa kalagayan ka ni Lozada. Naka sakay ka nga sa Toyota Altis pero hindi lang naman kayong tatlo ang bumibyahe. Siguradong meron pang nakasunod na sasakyan. Kung magtangka man syang lumaban wala syang panano, tiyak armado ang mga yon. Kung tomakbo man siya tiyak babarilin sya. Anong sasabihin nila na napagkamalan si Losado na carnaper, holdaper, snatcher, at kung ano ano pa. Katulad din na sinabi nya na he is affraid for his life. Isipin mo na lang, nasa pinto ka pa lang ng eroplano inaakay ka na ng di mo kilala at ngayon lang nag pakilala sayo. Ang una mong mararandaman ay baka ito na ang katapusan ng buhay mo.
    At doon naman sa Outback baka may Senior Citizen Discount si retired SPO4 Valereso kaya yon ang napili nilang restaurant.

  27. I bet you, takot din ang mga mokong na baka mabuking sila kaya hinay-hinay siya sa pananakot kay Lozada na alam naman nilang alam din ang gagawin kung worse comes to worse. Nilalansi nila siya, kaya nilalansi din niya sila, which he stated in fact in his testimony. Ano siya gago na tatalong na lang bigla. E kung sagasaan siya ng mga alaya ng mga ungas na ina-anticipate ang mga ganoon eksena gawa nang mga sanay na ang mga iyan sa pag-a-abduct ng kalaban ni Dorobo.

    Kayo naman, pitong taon nang ginagawa ni Dorobo ang mga krimen na ito, hindi pa kayo nasanay? Kaya lang naman hindi mahuli dahil pinalitan na ng mga mob ang pulis, military, etc. departamento ng gobyerno para sa paghuli ng mga kriminal na katulad nila. Ganoon ngayon, iba noon!

  28. atty36252 atty36252

    then sabi pa ni Lozada they ATE at OUTBACK, sosyal na mga kidnappers ito – pinapakain pa ng mamahalin yung victim….
    **********************

    Of course. Bilyon bilyon ang pera ng nagpa-kidnap.

    Sipag mo man. Habang lalo kang sumisipag, lalong halatang takot na nga ang baboy.

  29. Enteng Butete Enteng Butete

    sa history ng kidnapping – no one EVER leaves the victim ALONE in the back seat.
    *******************************************************

    Base sa findings ko about kidnapping. They never use one car alone, its always two or more. Just in case you got car trouble or change vehicle para di mahuli. Kung iisa lang pano kung masira? or mawalan ng gasolina maglalakad silang tatlo. Baka nga kasama pa si Atienza sa mga kumuha kay Lozada. Di lang napansin dahil nag drive thru na lang.

  30. Text going around:

    Sonny Razon must take the opportunity tomorrow to show that he has the integrity of a true PMAer by telling only the truth.

    He must also show moral and physical courage and loyalty to the country – not to a person who does not deserve an ounce of respect from anyone except the vultures in Congress.

  31. gusa77 gusa77

    Mr.Happy please cease watching those movies or tv shows w/c gave you an ideas,where in the world a victim left alone by himself at the back of the vehicle, a lot of them doing this for some reasons,specially you’re a high profile person,in case you put a some kind of resistance,then you put yourself in the box w/c been planned anyway by the parties involved on snatching him.I do thanks GOD,and most of all the media w/c save a life of human,or else JUN LOZADA,another escapee from SENATE investigation(he might be now fully retired under the ground).Taking cases to the court another thing you’re been saying,think mister what system we had.

  32. happy gilmore happy gilmore

    just the same – why take the risk of Jun Lozada jumping out of the vehicle and creating a commotion?

    mind you – i do not base my questions on movies alone. i have friends in the security services at Iraq – its an SOP for “prisoners” never to be left alone at the back of the vehicle for the following reasons :

    a) the prisoner can easily open the door and jump out.

    b) the prisoner can assault the driver / front passenger from behind, using an improvised weapon (yes, a ballpen is a weapon – it can be stuck into the neck or the ear of the front passengers)

    C) the prisoner can disrupt the driver and cause the vehicle to crash – enabling him to escape.

    D) the prisoner is not allowed to have any form of active communication on him as the signal can be traced. although Lozada was warned about texting, the agents never did confiscate his cel. why?

    that is why it is essential to secure the prisoner in the back by having additional agents to his left and to his right to make sure the prisoner doesnt make a move.

    to i pose my question again honorable bloggers:

    if the intention was to kill Lozada –

    why did they not bother to agents to his left and to his right in the back seat?

    (mind you – seasoned police / military agents ang kumuha kay Lozada. those kind of people intent on killing him would not make this kind of oversight.)

    why was he left alone in the back seat?

    why entail the risk of his jumping out of the vehicle and create a commotion?

    why was he allowed to keep his cel open?

    according to Mr. Spock – “if you eliminate all that is impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth”

  33. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Fake police officer Roger Valeroso probably working with ISAFP or active member of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP). PNP chief Razon is lying big time. Why military men are involved in the Lozada affair?

  34. zen2 zen2

    happy G.,

    sana narinig mo ang salaysay ng biktima sa Senado para masagot ang mga katanungan mo…pero, susundan ko lang argumento mo:

    1) merong maraming modelo ng mga sasakyan na ang master kontrol ng pintuan sa likod ay nasa drayber ng sasakyan.

    2) si Jun Lozada, ay pinag-bakasyon, at pina-istambay sa HK para iligal na maiwasan ang Senate summons.

    3) he cut his unofficial HK trip short, and by omission, canceled his previously agreed upon official committment in Europe.

    4) his decision to plane back to ‘Pinas was unilaterally, his own, STUNNING and DISPLEASING his political handlers.

    as you try to downplay, or reject outright the victim’s claim of being abducted, maybe it would help your cause if you get to check its legal meaning—and NOT forgetting he was taken from the airport against his will.

  35. zen2 zen2

    hindi lamang nabahala, malinaw na nabulabog ng husto ang Malakanyang ng malaman umuwi ang napilitang magbakasyon na si J. Lozada.

    sundan mo ang time-line; mula sa pagdukot sa kanya sa airport, ng napag-alaman ito ng media corps na naka-base sa airport, at masasagot ang iyong maraming ‘Bakit?’

    halimbawa: ang balitang, “… ate at the Outback (a classy resto in Libis, QC) …”, ay totoo. pero sadya mong itinabi ang katotohanan, na ito ay BUNGA at matapos siyang pinagawa ng isang sulat na ang laman ay kunwa’y humihingi siya ng security detail !!

    iniisip kong malinis ang iyong hangad, kaya’t matiyaga kong binasa ang iyong mga naunang punto. pero, unti-unti nagiging malinaw sa akin na yung maraming mong ‘Bakit’, ikaw din lang pala ang makakasagot !

    stay sound…

  36. happy gilmore happy gilmore

    kgg Zen2

    the point about the child safety lock is well taken.

    so ASSUMING that prevented Lozada from jumping out,

    pls do enlighten us on the following :

    Lozada – considered by many as a “prisoner” was allowed to keep his cel open (though he was warned about texting, his cel unit was never confiscated).

    If the motive was to kill Lozada, then it is very important that nobody be able to trace his location?why was Lozada’s cel unit not confiscated? having an active cel is a top security concern, any agent knows that its signal can be traced.

    If the motive was to kill Lozada – why was he taken to OUTBACK, a PUBLIC RESTAURANT? If he was to be killed – di na pakakainin yan. also OUTBACK is a PUBLIC RESTAURANT. If Lozada is indeed in dire straits – he could have easily created a scene and got the attention of the resto management, left a note in the CR that he was being abducted – ANYTHING. But he did NOTHING. Had it been you that was about to be killed – would you just SIT THERE and wait for the end to come? it doesnt make sense.

    Thirdly – LOZADA was brought to the very place he requested to brought to – La Salle Greenhills. why? do hitment usually ask their victims where they want to go? To my knowledge- hitmen usually send their victims straight to hell. why this inconsistency?

  37. zen2 zen2

    there is no inconsistency, happy G.

    Jun Lozada abductors allowed him to leave and keep his life, because, in part, the media people based at the airport have already raised the alarm of his abduction, and began contacting the right people.

    there is no inconsistency, if taken into consideration the 2 spurious letters he was made to sign, purportedly his asking for a security detail.

    frankly, he may have saved his own life by signing the second and final letter brought before him at the Outback.

    i thought Jun Lozada, may have impressed upon his abductor’s handlers that he is sympathetic to their cause; and will keep his part of the Code (of Silence).

    if previous and foregoing events are to be considered, there is consistency and rhyme to that of a very afraid man, fearing for his life.

    high and powerful govt men engaged in banditry in guise of official acts must first answer the question: why is it they abducted the man against his will?

    a credible answer is needed, otherwise claiming inconsistency on the victim’s part is not only hollow, it reeks of dung.

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