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Enrile defends Estrada

by Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile

Mr. President and my colleagues, I rise today on a matter of personal privilege. I do so as a Senator of the Republic who sought and obtained the people’s mandate in the Senatorial Elections in 2004 under the banner of the Puwersa ng Masang Pilipino.

Last week, I sat at that exalted seat of the Senate President and listened with deep pain, a heavy heart, and a troubled mind as I presided over the session when my friend and colleague, the Hon. Panfilo Lacson, delivered his searing privilege speech. He rendered his own personal account and portrayal of the person and character of Former President Joseph Ejercito Estrada, the founder and leader of my Party, the PMP.

The next day, the Hon. Senate President Pro Tempore Jose “Jinggoy” Estrada, stood and took the Floor, and properly so, to defend the name and honor of his father.

I could not help but feel saddened about how an old friendship has come to such a bitter and rancorous end and to witness the ensuing acrimony that rages to this day.

Senator Lacson has expressed that it pained him to make his revelations which, he says, is aimed “to unmask” the “real President Joseph “ERAP” Estrada.” But I am sure that the heaviness he felt in his heart then could not compare with the pain that must have gripped the President’s own son, whose father was being subjected to such grave and serious accusations right in his presence and in the halls of this august Chamber.

I am not certain why and how things have come to this. And I am not alone with that uncertainty. There are many questions that have been boggling the minds of the public since this controversy started.

Mr. President, I do not stand today to attribute any ill-will or any ill motive to the Gentleman from Cavite who not only served under President Erap Estrada, but more than that, was also once known to have enjoyed the full trust and confidence of the former President.

I am sure that before Senator Lacson launched this serial attacks against President Estrada, he knew that his motives would be doubted, questioned, and made the subject of many speculations, both favorable and unsavory. Knowing Senator Lacson, I am also sure he is prepared to address these doubts and these questions.

Precisely, he prefaced his speech by explaining that he is doing this out of a sense of moral duty to the public and the nation. His call was for God to save this country from Joseph Ejercito Estrada. With that call, I believe it is fair and safe to conclude that Senator Lacson’s so-called “revelations” against his former President and Commander-in Chief was a serious and deliberate effort to dissuade the public from electing President Erap back to the highest position in the land.

I must give credit to Senator Lacson for being unequivocal about his intentions and for going straight to the point, his ultimate point, which is that Erap must not be allowed to lead this nation again.

But since Senator Lacson spoke about who he claims “the real Erap Estrada” is, I hope he and my colleagues will not begrudge me for feeling compelled to speak about the side of President Erap I have personally witnessed in our long years of association and friendship.

Ang sasabihin ko po ngayon ay yun lamang sariling karanasan at kaalaman ko ukol sa katauhan ng Dating Pangulong Joseph Ejercito Estrada.

Dalawa lamang kami ni Erap sa oposisyon na pinalad na mahirang na Senador noong 1987. Ang dalawampu’t dalawa pang Senador ay pawang mga kandidato ng yumaong Pangulong Corazon C. Aquino. Limang taon kaming magkatabi ng upuan noon sa Senado.

Sa buong panahong iyon, Si Erap ay hindi ko kailanman nakitang nag-mayabang o nagmarunong. Nagtatanong siya sa akin tungkol sa mga usapin at kalakaran sa Senado sapagka’t bago lang siya at walang karanasan bilang isang mambabatas.

Hindi man siya mahilig magtalumpati, at madalas nilalait ang kanyang pagsasalita ng Ingles, nakita ko ang kanyang pagiging isang totoong tao. Magalang, mapagkumbaba at hindi mapagkunwari.

Hindi matatawaran ang kanyang pagiging tunay na maka-tao at maka-mahirap. Pinagtatawanan siya noon sa kanyang isinulong na “Carabao Bill”. Ngayon, ang ating mga magsasaka at ang bansa ay nakikinabang ng husto sa “Carabao Center” sa Gitnang Luzon na naitatag sa pamamagitan ni Erap.

As a Senator, Joseph Estrada proved to be a true nationalist. He, along with eleven other Senators, myself included, voted for the abrogation of the U.S. Bases Agreement despite the strong lobby for its extension led by no less than President Aquino.

While we were praised by many as “The Magnificent Twelve,” we were also denounced and branded as “The Dirty Dozen” by those who wanted to maintain America’s military presence in the Philippines. In hindsight, if not for that bold and historic vote, we would not have seen the rise of Subic and Clark as living examples of what we can, on our own, achieve as a sovereign nation.

In 1990, when I was arrested for what the Supreme Court eventually declared to be a non-existent crime of “Rebellion Complexed with Murder” right on the Floor of the Old Senate, Erap was the only one among my colleagues who dared and offered to accompany me as I rode the van with the arresting officers led by then Director of the National Bureau of Investigation, former Gen. Alfredo Lim, on the way to the NBI compound where I was booked and temporarily detained.

Sinabi ni Erap sa akin: “Manong, sasama ho ako. Mahirap na baka may masamang mangyari sa inyo. Kababaril lang ho kay Pepe Oyson sa isang police van. Mabuti pa samahan ko kayo.”

And so he did ride with me in the van. Erap stayed long at the NBI, drove away the media who wanted to capture and feast on my image being fingerprinted and photographed as a criminal. He did not leave until he was sure I was safe.

I could never forget this most sincere gesture of concern and kindness which Erap readily extended to me during one of my darkest days, when many of my so-called friends chose to keep their distance from me.

I cannot claim to know everything about President Erap or to know him as keenly and intimately as perhaps, Senator Lacson does. While I have known him for a long time, I became intimately close to him only fairly recently.

This was around the time when many who he thought were his true friends either turned against him or abandoned him. On the other hand, those who despised him from the beginning, for he did not belong to the self-righteous elitist segments of this society, were relentless in their efforts to humiliate him and oust him from Malacanang fast and quick.

Joseph Ejercito Estrada is by no means a perfect man. He has his own flaws, just like all of us. To be honest, I believe some of his best traits may have been the very ones that eventually worked against him. For one, he was too trusting. It is good to trust but, perhaps, he trusted the wrong people. He was carefree in his ways, but this otherwise desirable trait did not serve him well because he occupied no less than the highest position in the land.

He was generous with his friends, but his generosity was exploited by those who were never really his friends in the first place. In many ways, he had a simplistic view of things and he did not grasp the complications and nuances of his conduct in relation to the sensitivity of his position as President of the land.

He was also very transparent, many times, to a fault. Against all well-meaning advice, he openly showed his anger and he answered questions from the media frankly and candidly. His show of indignation, whether righteous or out of his sensitive nature, earned him the ire of the powerful and influential media.

But that is Erap. What you see is what you get. He was unpretentious and spontaneous with his reactions. Being the colorful character that he is, he made good copy for the press, but he was, for the most part, harshly criticized and ridiculed.

President Erap and I have had our own differences in the past.

May mga panahon na alam kong nagdamdam siya sa akin. Ito ay nangyari noong nasa Kongreso ako at nagtalumpati laban sa nakita kong pagmamalabis ng Presidential Anti-Crime Commission (PACC) na noo’y pinamumunuan niya habang siya ay Pangalawang Pangulo.

Sumama ang loob niya dahil bilang kaibigan, inasahan niya na bago sana ako nagsalita at nag-akusa, sana ay binigyan ko muna siya ng pagkakataong magpaliwanag. Naunawaan ko ito. At nang ako ay humingi ng paumanhin, agad niya akong pinatawad.

When he won the Presidential elections in 1998, before he was formally proclaimed, Erap, with all magnanimity and humility, sought me out at the Interconinental Hotel to shake my hand and even asked me for some advice.

I was deeply humbled by his gesture because I ran against him and I was one of those who publicly belittled his capacity to lead the country.

At one time during his presidency, I phoned President Erap to tell him that I was going to investigate what I believed were anomalies in connection with the bidding of LRT 2. He immediately said: “Ok lang sa akin yon Manong, ‘wag mo akong intindihin. Imbestigahan mo para malaman natin kung may kalokohan talaga dyan.”

Indeed, Erap never stopped Congress from investigating anomalies under his administration. In fact, he immediately and willingly told his own wife, the First Lady, Dra. Luisa Ejercito, to face a Senate investigation during his Presidency.

More than that, President Erap did not use the vast resources available to him as President to thwart his own impeachment by Congress in 2000. He readily submitted himself to the legal process of undergoing an impeachment trial. But his political enemies and leaders of the so-called “civil society” were in a hurry remove him from office, never mind his basic right to a fair and complete trial on the facts and the merits of the charges filed against him.

The humiliation that the former President and his family have suffered are unimaginable for any ordinary person to endure.

From the time his erstwhile so-called “friend,” Luis “Chavit” Singson accused him of taking bribes from “jueteng” operations, to the aborted impeachment trial which led to EDSA DOS, his illegal and forced ouster from the Presidency, and eventually, his arrest and detention, he and his family were publicly pilloried and shamed.

In EDSA DOS, Erap and we, the Senators who voted against the opening of the “second envelope” because the bank accounts were not included in the charges Congress elevated to the Senate, were subjected to a vicious hate campaign, derisively caricatured, publicly cursed, demonized, and called names: “mandarambong,” “political prostitutes”, mga bayaran,” “The Craven Eleven”, and many unprintable labels.

It did not help that the media, and sadly, the leadership of the Catholic Church were active parisans and participants in the effort to force Erap to resign.

Lahat ng pagmumura at pag-aalipusta na ibinato kay Pangulong Estrada at sa amin ay naganap at pinayagan ng mga pastor, mga madre at kaparian doon mismo sa paanan ng malaking imahe ng Birheng Maria sa EDSA.

I know that many people had advised President Erap to forcibly disperse the crowd in EDSA and not to allow it to swell, after all, they had no permit to occupy that road. But Erap refused. He said it was their right to protest for as long as the gathering remained peaceful, and he did not want anyone to get hurt.

President Erap pressed for the opening of the controversial “second envelope” after the prosecutors walked out of the impeachment trial. He asked his lawyers to withdraw their objection to its opening in order to vindicate him from speculations that he was hiding something there. But the prosecution refused to go back. They had another plan.

After he was already removed from office and when the envelope was finally opened by then Senate President Aquilino Pimentel, together with the late Senator Renato Cayetano and in full view of the media, they found that the subject bank account was indeed owned by Mr. Jaime Dichavez.

But this was drowned in the midst of the euphoria over Erap’s forced removal from office. Much later, Senator Aquilino Pimentel, even testified at Erap’s trial for Plunder at the Sandiganbayan to attest to such findings.

Erap could have used the outrage of the throngs of his supporters among the masses who gathered and refused to leave EDSA to protest his arrest as an opportunity to force the administration to free him from jail. This huge gathering was, of course, ignored by the media and it received little coverage, if any at all.

But in a meeting that I, his wife Dra. Loi, and his leaders had at the Robinson’s Galleria Hotel on the eve of May 1, 2001, President Erap called and asked me and Dra. Loi to dissuade the agitated crowd from marching to Malacanang. He worried that the people would get hurt and lives may be lost because violence would surely erupt.

Despite Dra. Loi’s pleas and a taped voice message from President Erap played to the angry crowd asking them not to march, they still did. Scores of his supporters were seriously wounded and hurt, and I understand a number of them died as they were rightly met by anti-riot policemen and snipers in Malacanang. Indeed, Erap never wanted the lives of his loyal supporters to be placed in danger just for his sake.

On May 1, 2001, barely two weeks before the elections, I was arrested and accused of leading the assault against the Palace despite the fact that I was the first to discourage and caution the crowd about marching from EDSA. Again, the Supreme Court was my only refuge, and I was ordered released after 6 days of detention at Camp Crame. I lost the Senatorial race in 2001 which came on the heels of EDSA DOS, Erap’s ouster and arrest, and EDSA TRES.

Despite all the betrayal, the public humiliation, the most vicious and meanest attacks upon his person, name and honor, and the long years of confinement and restriction on his freedom, what I saw in Erap was an inexhaustible capacity for kindness and forgiveness.

Many times when I would visit him under detention, I would be surprised by the people who I found there in his company, enjoying his generosity, hospitality, and even seeking his help and support. I just quietly said to myself: “How can this man bring himself up to even feed these people who betrayed his trust and those who were instrumental in his painful and illegal ouster?”

For a man who they portrayed as a scoundrel who lacked “education”, he never ceased to amaze me with his genuine gentlemanly and respectful ways, his willingness to forgive, and his kind-heartedness. He chose not to nurture any ill-will. He may have been angry at these people at some point, and understandably so. But when they came to him, he received them not only with all due respect, but with an openness to embrace them back as friends. He set aside his bitterness, and he was not quick to judge nor condemn them.

When Secretary Angelo Reyes, who turned against him as his AFP Chief of Staff, was up for confirmation at the Commission on Appointments, I asked Erap how he would like me to vote. I was then in the CA representing the PMP. He said: “Manong, pumunta dito sa ‘kin, nakikiusap, kasama ho yung asawa niya. Siguro tulungan mo na lang.”

In fact, even those who impeached him and voted against him during the trial were welcomed by Erap as friends. Among them were Senator Manny Villar, Senator Nene Pimentel, Senator Serge Osmena, and Senator Loren Legarda.

More than that, I know that leaders of the so-called “civil society” who he knew were at EDSA DOS have turned to him and relied on his help and support for their protest actions against this present Administration. Today, I see these same faces parading themselves as leaders and supporters of the candidacy of my dear colleague, Senator Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino, III. Evidently, they have no more use for Erap.

When I came to be labeled and regarded as an “Administration ally,” Erap told me that many of his friends were intriguing against me. But he said: “Manong, sa ‘kin wala lahat yon. Basta hindi tayo magkakahiwalay.”

In 2007, I resigned as Chairman of the PMP because I did not want to be a burden to him, having been labeled as “pro-Gloria”, and because I could not support some people who were in his Senatorial slate. I said, however, that I will not leave the Party and that I will just remain as a member. President Erap understood but said to me: “Basta Manong, magkasama pa rin tayo.”

I was surprised when one day, after the elections, he called my Chief of Staff to ask me to take over his position as Chairman Emeritus of the PMP. She reasoned with him saying that the position of Chairman Emeritus can only rightfully be occupied by him, being its founder. Add to that, there would surely be some negative reaction from his hardcore supporters.

But he insisted and proceeded to give this humble representation the distinct honor of being named Chairman Emeritus of no less than the party that draws its existence and strength from the persona of ERAP-President Joseph Ejercito Estrada.

Perhaps, our friendship has remained unshaken because of our mutual openness and candor. I never kept any secret from him about my association with President Arroyo’s administration and my support for her policies whenever in my judgment, such policies and actions were correct. But just like President Erap’s administration, I have openly criticized, questioned, and gone against some of President Arroyo’s economic and political policies and directions.

Only a few weeks after Mrs. Arroyo took over the presidency, a mutual friend arranged a brief meeting between us. I told her that I will help her if she needed my help for the sake of the country. But I said to her: “Huwag mo lang sana ako palayuin kay Erap. Mas kailangan niya ang kaibigan ngayon.”

To her credit, she said she was not asking that of me at all. In subsequent meetings with President Arroyo, where I would plead for more freedom and leniency for the detained former President, she would invariably say that when she was his Vice President, Erap was very kind and never did anything wrong to her.

Even the late President Cory Aquino who led those who asked for Erap to step down, must have seen something good in him, at least enough for her to later acknowledge that she was sorry. I believe she said: “Patawarin sana niya ako…lahat naman tayo ay may pagkakamali.”

Do I regret what I did and whatever I have suffered because of my support for President Erap? Am I ashamed of my association with this man?

Pinagsisisihan ko ba na ako ay sumama kay Erap sa kanyang laban para sa hustisya? Ikinahihiya ko ba siya, itatatwa, o iiwanan bilang isang kaibigan?

HINDING HINDI PO. Para sa akin, isang malaking karangalan na ako ay maituring niya bilang isang malapit na kaibigan. Si Erap ay naging isang tunay na kaibigan sa akin, sa hirap at ginhawa.

Mr. President, the Floor of this Chamber is always available for each one of us to freely express our thoughts and ideas, our beliefs, and our advocacies. It offers us the extraordinary privilege of parliamentary immunity, but that privilege carries with it the equally extraordinary duty for us to wield and exercise it with a sense of responsibly. I am sure Senator Lacson takes this privilege and responsibility very seriously.

The Gentleman from Cavite has thrown some very grave and serious accusations against former President Joseph Estrada. And I know he is not yet finished.

If his accusations should amount to the imputation of crimes for which Erap has not yet been charged nor tried, then I sincerely hope that the good Senator, sooner than later, will see to it that the proper case or even cases, will be immediately filed in our courts, where the former President can be given a fair, impartial, and equal opportunity to defend himself.

President Estrada has been charged, tried and convicted for the crime of Plunder. In his more than six years of detention, I am sure that he had much time to contemplate and reflect on his fate and the events that led to his rise and fall from power. I have seen him at his darkest moments, and I have witnessed his agony, his sad realizations, his resolve and tenacity to vindicate his name, his strong faith in God, and his resilience.

Very few people are blessed with the kind of trials and vindication Erap has been fortunate to have experienced in his own lifetime. As he now contemplates and discerns whether he should once again seek the presidency, he is in a rare and unique position to use the lessons he has learned the hard and painful way for the higher good of the nation and our people.

With full conviction, I have made a commitment to my dear friend, the former President, that should he decide to run for President despite the formidable legal and political obstacles that await him, I will be with him. Sasamahan ko siya. If, however, he should decide otherwise, I am very certain that Erap will remain as a major force in shaping the political life and history of our country.

Sa aking pagsama kay Pangulong Erap sa iba’t ibang sulok ng kapuluan, nakita ko ang tunay na pagmamahal at pagtangkilik sa kanya ng masang Pilipino. Hindi niya kailangang magbayad upang umakit ng atensiyon at paghanga. Sa wari ko, ito’y hindi dahil siya ay isang sikat na artista lamang. Sa katauhan ni Erap, nakikita ng maralitang Pilipino ang isang pinuno na nauunawaan ang kanilang kalagayan at tunay na kumakalinga sa kanila.

Nang umuwi sa bansa si Cesar Mancao, at si Senador Lacson ay simulang maharap sa pagbibintang na siya ay may kinalaman sa pagpatay kina Ginoong Salvador “Bubby” Dacer at kay Emmanuel Corbito, taos-puso kong ipinahiwatig sa kanya ang aking pagkabahala at pag-aalala sa kanyang hinaharap na suliranin at sa maari niyang sapitin.

Ngayon, si Erap naman ang idinidiin at itinuturo na siyang tunay na may kagagawan ng karumal-dumal na mga pagpaslang na ito.

Ipagpaumanhin sana ni Senador Lacson na sa aking pagkakakilala kay Erap, hindi ako handang kagyat lang maniwala na and Dating Pangulo ay isang mamamatay-tao. Maraming nang ipinukol na kasalanan at batikos sa kanya, subali’t mahirap at masakit sa akin ang isipin na siya ay isang pusakal. Sapagka’t kung tunay ngang wala siyang konsensiyang kumitil ng buhay, marami akong alam na mga taong higit na mabigat ang kasalanan sa kanya na siguro ay matagal nang nawala sa mundong ito.

Kung may ebidensiyang magpapatunay na si Pangulong Estrada ay nagkasala, at ito ay mapagtitibay sa ilalim ng batas at sa harap ng hukom, hindi ko siya kailanman pagtatakpan. Subali’t hindi ko siya iiwanan bilang kaibigan sa panibagong pagsubok na ito.

Sa kabila ng mga malubhang akusasyon na kanyang hinaharap ngayon, umaasa ako na maipagtatanggol ni Pangulong Erap ang kanyang sarili, ang kanyang pangalan at ang kanyang dangal, hindi lamang bilang isang tao, ngunit higit sa lahat, bilang isang pinuno na pinagkakatiwalaan, dinadakila at minamahal ng masang Pilipino.

Maraming salamat po.

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80 Comments

  1. Superkicker Superkicker

    I was awed by Sen. Enrile’s speech I must say, bibihira ko lang kasi sya marinig na magsalita eh…Nakakabukas din ng mga mata talaga ang mga sinabi nya. Parang he spoken not only as a friend but as a critic of how Former Pres. Erap had been very soft to a fault and have had helped many people that eventually betrayed him.

    A tear-jerker and a commendable speech..:)

  2. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    I don’t think Enrile’s defense of Erap helped Erap that much. It came from a person who is not known for his integrity and credibility and known more for his devious opportunistic character and as the administrator of Marcos’ martial law.

    His defense was to show Erap’s good side as his friend. Of course, everybody has his good side. But that speech didn’t clarify matters regarding the issue at hand, or I guess wasn’t meant to be.

    Enrile says Erap is not a killer. But he also admits that he doesn’t know Erap as much as Ping does.

    Weak defense. Emotionally-laden and delivered for a friend who stuck by him when he was arrested for staging a coup against Cory.

  3. Phil,

    Agree — this is all about his utang na loob to Erap. Not saying he shouldn’t have expressed it but using the Senate floor to announce how sooooo grateful he is to Erap?

    This bombastic show of gratitude coming from Enrile, who was one of the vilest traitors this country ever had, will probably make Erap supporters very very happy, and Erap too.

  4. Filipinos must engage brain!

  5. Do I regret what I did and whatever I have suffered because of my support for President Erap? Am I ashamed of my association with this man?

    For a double balimbing like Enrile, that’s a nonsense question!

    Look at where he is now! Senate president! He would have never been where he is had he not compromised every fiber in his being.

    The first time he ran as senator in the the late (or early 70s?, sorry can’t remember), he was roundly defeated. So bloody difficult a sell he was that even Marcos couldn’t do anything to get him elected.

    He finally got elected because he started tearjerking and as we all know most Filipinos (and voters) lose their moral compass when a corrupt politician makes them cry!

  6. ron ron

    Di ko alam madrama rin pa lang Enrile..pero sayang di ako nadala..

  7. Tedanz Tedanz

    “Sapagka’t kung tunay ngang wala siyang konsensiyang kumitil ng buhay, marami akong alam na mga taong higit na mabigat ang kasalanan sa kanya na siguro ay matagal nang nawala sa mundong ito.”
    Marami na nga sana kung talagang kriminal ang mga Estrada.
    “Manong, pumunta dito sa ‘kin(Angelo Reyes), nakikiusap, kasama ho yung asawa niya. Siguro tulungan mo na lang.”
    Mapagpatawad!!!!
    “Sa katauhan ni Erap, nakikita ng maralitang Pilipino ang isang pinuno na nauunawaan ang kanilang kalagayan at tunay na kumakalinga sa kanila.”
    Maka-masa!!!!!
    Yan ang tunay na Pangulo!!!!!!!!

  8. Enrile, professing to be a witness of good morality? Don’t make me laugh…

  9. Enrile’s privilege speech, like a Mafia godfather defending another!

  10. I agree that the Filipinos should engage their coconuts rather than fall prey once again to stage and film actors.

    The turnout of Boto Mo Ipatrol Mo – Ako ang Simula in Iligan City is very encouraging. A record high of more than 4000 youths and oldies have registered their intentions to safeguard the Lanao Votes in 2010.

    Mabuhay, Iligan City!

  11. Is that right Sumpit?

    Good lads and lasses!

  12. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    AdeBrux, I was just about to say the same thing. Like Capone rising up to full height and bellowing about the kind heart of the Godfather.

  13. LOL! Spot on Phil. So obvious…

  14. Trapos’ actions and approaches on issues thrown against them, are always based on the presumption that the people have short memory due to poor living conditions, the same politicians have caused.

  15. manuelbuencamino manuelbuencamino

    Ellen,

    Thanks for publishing Enrile’s defense. Magkautak nga sila ni Jinggoy. Para sa kanila ang pakikisama at utang na loob ay mas mahalaga sa batas.

  16. kapinoyan kapinoyan

    No, AdeBrux, it was not his tearjerking which brought Enrile to the Senate the first time. It was Dagdag-Bawas against Nene Pimentel and Ramon Revilla. Yes, Enrile was the pioneer of Dagdag-Bawas.

  17. noypisausa noypisausa

    “Enrile, professing to be a witness of good morality? Don’t make me laugh…”

    Second the motion ako diyan sa sinabi mo, AdeBrux.
    When he was Defense Secretary during the Marcos era, he wielded and enjoyed tremendous power and because of this, he got richer and richer and richer….I remember very well that during his time as defense sec, he averred that he would defeat the five threats to national security – CPP/NPA/NDF, MNLF, MILF, RIGHTIST ELEMENTS, and CRIMINAL GROUPS. 40 years later, he is now a Senator (SENATONG)and Gibo is still announcing the same thing. Nothing has changed. Enrile’s speech is unbelievable. He is one good opportunist. Look at what is happening in Cagayan, his home province. There is corruption everywhere. I’m hungry for real change and maybe Noy-Mar can do magic.

  18. manuelbuencamino manuelbuencamino

    kapinoyan,

    korek la dyan. dagdag bawas ni enrile ang yumari kay nene

  19. Mike Mike

    I always wonder why he is still in the senate???

  20. xman xman

    But since Senator Lacson spoke about who he claims “the real Erap Estrada” is, I hope he and my colleagues will not begrudge me for feeling compelled to speak about the side of President Erap I have personally witnessed in our long years of association and friendship.

    Ang sasabihin ko po ngayon ay yun lamang sariling karanasan at kaalaman ko ukol sa katauhan ng Dating Pangulong Joseph Ejercito Estrada.

    Dalawa lamang kami ni Erap sa oposisyon na pinalad na mahirang na Senador noong 1987.

    ———-xman———-

    Nag umpisa ang contact nya o obserbasyon kay Erap mula noong 1987.

    Sinabi lang ni Enrile kung ano ang nasaksihan nya kay Erap?

    Ano doon sa mga sinabi ni Enrile tungkol sa nasaksihan nya kay Erap ay pawang kasinungalingan lamang?

  21. Enrile, professing to be a witness of good morality? Don’t make me laugh…

  22. xman xman

    Did Enrile lied on his observations about Erap?

  23. xman xman

    should be lie, not lied

  24. manuelbuencamino manuelbuencamino

    Enrile’s speech was all about pakikisama and utang na loob and what a likable guy Erap is. He said nothing to exonerate Erap’s involvement in murders except to offer assurances that Erap would do nothing of the sort

    Therefore Enrile’s speech was really a cheap stunt to court the sympathy of Erap’s loyal followers.

    Because the gadam hundred years old senator is running for reelection

  25. balweg balweg

    Agree — this is all about his utang na loob to Erap. Not saying he shouldn’t have expressed it but using the Senate floor to announce how sooooo grateful he is to Erap?

    This is reality AdeBrux, ang bawat isa ay may kanya-kanyang pananaw sa buhay but papaano ito maipapaliwanag kung wala namang naging kaugnayan ang bawat isa sa Pangulong Erap, granted ang winika ni Manong Enrile sapagka’t naranasan niya ang tunay na Erap?

    Pero ang mga maiingay sa ating lipunan…ang alam lang e yong tsismis pakinggan…kaya magsama-sama na sila sa kanilang kagaguhan?

  26. balweg balweg

    Enrile’s speech was all about pakikisama and utang na loob and what a likable guy Erap is?

    This is the fact ManuelBuencamino? Paano kang makapagsasalaysay o makapagpapatotoo kundi mo naranasan, except kung mag-iimbeto ka ng kwento?

    Ang iyong karanasan sa buhay ang buhay na halimbawa upang maka-akay o makaakit ka ng kapwa-tao?

    Sa buhay Kristiyano…di ba ang maging soul-winners kailangan natin ang buhay na patotoo or else bulaang propeta tayo na walang saysay ang bawat namumutawi sa ating mga bibig.

    Si Manong Enrile ay nagsasaysay ng katotohan sa buhay ng Pangulong Erap sapagka’t ito ay kanyang naranasan? Kung ibalik ko sa iyo ang tanong na ito…papaano mo mabibigyan ng buhay ang iyong pananaw sa buhay about Erap kung nabasa o narinig mo lang ang issues? Sige nga…..?

    Si Cardinal Sin nga na alagad ng simbahan e kung iisipin natin na tama yong kanyang ginagawa pero bilang tao e naghudas siya sa ating Konstitusyon at sa 11 milyong botanteng Pinoy…ang witnesses walang iba sina Tita Cory na nag I am sorry sa ginawa nila sa EDSA DOS…see, ang linaw pa sa sikat ng araw?

    Ngayon, i challange ALL Pinoys na walang katinuan sa pag-iisip sapagka’t bulag sa katotohanan ng buhay…bakit ka mo, ganito yon…nag i am SORRY na ang inyong mga handlers na maling-mali ang ginawa nýo noong EDSA DOS.

    Yan ang puno’t dulo ng ating kaguluhan…ngayon magbabagong puri uli ang mga traydor at sinungaling sa katauhan ng YELLOW FEVER?

  27. xman xman

    If Lacson has the goodies against Erap then bring it to court as suggested by Enrile.

    “If his accusations should amount to the imputation of crimes for which Erap has not yet been charged nor tried, then I sincerely hope that the good Senator, sooner than later, will see to it that the proper case or even cases, will be immediately filed in our courts, where the former President can be given a fair, impartial, and equal opportunity to defend himself.”

  28. balweg balweg

    Enrile, professing to be a witness of good morality? Don’t make me laugh…

    Nagpapakatotoo lamang si Manong Enrile…ang hirap sa marami nating Pinoy, masyadong judgmental at ang bilis ma brainwash ng mass or cybermedia?

    Nawika na ang negative criticism is healthy kung ito ay pakikingan natin at isasabuhay ng with good judgement? Pero ang hirap sa maraming Pinoy…yong pagiging talangka mentality, hahatakin ka pabagsak, at kung wasak ka na e saka ka nila pagtatawanan at lilibakin.

    Kaya di tumino ang Pinas sa mga Pinoy na walang KSP at SSP?

  29. Enrile, professing to be a witness of good morality? Don’t make me laugh…??? What’s wrong with that, Balweg? Are you trying to say that Enrile is the epitome of high morality?

  30. balweg balweg

    I always wonder why he is still in the senate???

    Pls. ask the Pinoy voters? Or else if you are NOT happy with him na nasa Senado siya e change the political leaning of our country…gawin nýong communist or any form of gov’t para kung ano ang gusto nýong mangyari so be it?

    Ang hirap sa ating mga Pinoy…di maunawaan ang principle ng demokrasya na gustong yakapin pero mga tonto naman sa pag-unawa sa kalayaang isinasaad sa ating Saligang Batas?

    Sala sa init at sala sa lamig…ang hirap mga espilengin?

    Ang daming alibi at reklamo sa buhay? Sino ba ang nagluklok kay gloria sa Malacanang not ONCE but TWICE? Sige nga at paka-examine ang inyong mga sarili?

    Dapat ang may karapatan lamang na magreklamo e yaong 11 milyong Pinoys na inagawan ng Malacanang? At nakakainit ng punong tenga eh kung sino pa yong mga naghudas at traydor siya pang maiingay at ang daming ka ek-ekan sa buhay…di ba sila ang pasimuno kung kaya 10-years tayo na naghihirap ngayon.

    Yang 12% VAT ni Recto sige nga? Dapat mangahiya kayo sa inyong mga sarili sapagka’t kundi kayo nagmarunong e di tayo aabot sa ganitong pingkian ng kukote.

    At ngayon isisi nýo sa WETENG na yan…di nýo naman mabigyan ng trabaho ang mahihirap na Pinoy? Kung tutuusin e pinagkakakitaan pa yan ng mga nagmamarunong sa ating lipunan.

    Ang bantayan nýo ang winawaldas at ninanakaw ng rehimeng arroyo at di yong WETENG? Ito ang puno’t dulo ng ating pingkian ng katwiran.

  31. balweg balweg

    What’s wrong with that, Balweg? Are you trying to say that Enrile is the epitome of high morality?

    I’m NOT talking about his personal character, but i’m pointing the real TRUTH of their friendshipness?

    ANO ANG MASAMA DOON? Nagpapakatotoo lamang yong tao? Dapat maging good listeners tayo…kung puro negative e walang pupuntahan ang pag-uusap at mauuwi lang sa away ito.

    Kaya di magkasundo ang Kapinuyan…sa pagiging crab mentality.

  32. balweg balweg

    If Lacson has the goodies against Erap then bring it to court as suggested by Enrile?

    Korek Xman…ano ang ginagawa ng ating husgado? Ito ang proper forum upang pag-usapan ang legalidad ng mga patutsada ni La?son…para siyang tonto, ginagawa niyang tanga ng Pinoy?

    Kung may talino siya e dapat magsampa siya ng kaso sa korte…bakit? Ano ang gusto niyang palabasin, baka nabayaran siya tulad ng PCIJ at PDI na hanggang ngayon e walang sawang tumitira sa Pangulong Erap?

    Sayang ka La?son…ganoon na lang ang todo-suporta namin sa iyo lalong sa kaso ng Kuratong Baleleng robout?

    Pati mga naging kakilala ko at naging kumpare na kamag-anak ng mga Kuratong Baleleng e aking tinalo upang ipaglaban ka e isa kapalang bugok at kalahati?

    Walang kang kwentang tao…di ka magpakatotoo sa iyong sarili, sayang ang naging stars mo sa iyong balikat PEKE pala.

    Wala kang binatbat…daig mo pang ang isang dalahira?

  33. So, Balweg, I’ll repeat my questions:

    “Enrile, professing to be a witness of good morality? Don’t make me laugh… What’s wrong with that, Balweg?

    Are you trying to say that Enrile is the epitome of high morality?”

  34. balweg balweg

    Di ko alam madrama rin pa lang Enrile..pero sayang di ako nadala..?

    Oks lang Ron…kailangan bang panghinayangan ang isang bagay na walang kwenta sa iyo, dapat mag-enjoy ka, but kami na inuunawa ang damdamin ng kapwa-Pinoy e di tulad ng marami diyan na masyadong judgmental at kaya sino ngayon ang apektado sa kawalanghiyaan ng rehimeng arroyo sige nga?

    Akala nýo ligtas kayong lahat na nagluklok kay gloria sa Malacanang not ONCE, but TWICE?

    After EDSA 3…kami na Masang Pilipino e nakita nýo naman na kahit na dinungisan ang karangalan na minsan na nagpanalo ng landslide last 1998, heto at patraydor na tinarakan ng punyal sa likod?

    Ano naging hapi ba kayo…after all ng EDSA DOS? Di ba WALA ring kinapuntahan ang inyong pagmamarunong, at ngayon magsisihirit uli kayo na dapat magkaroon ng pagbabago?

    ANONG PAGBABAGO ang gusto nýong mangyari e kayo ang gumawa ng EDSA DOS at HELLO GARCI, kaya kung gusto nýo na tumino ang ating bansa e matuto kayong gumalang sa karapatan ng Masang Pilipino (excluded ang evil society and their cohorts sapagka’t puro vested interests ang laman ng kukote).

  35. balweg balweg

    Are you trying to say that Enrile is the epitome of high morality?”

    No comment! But, i’m ONLY saying that the friendshipness of Manong Enrile and Pres. Erap was real and all his gestures patunay na galing sa kaibuturan ng kanyang puso.

    Yon lang…other things about his personal life, i have no business to discuss it further! Focus lang sa sinabi niya, that’s ALL!

  36. Re Enrile’s speech

    Manuel Buencamino raised a point (he left in my blog) that’s worth pondering and which I would like to post here, Ellen, if you don’t mind very much…

    Enrile’s speech was all about pakikisama and utang na loob and what a likable guy Erap is. He said nothing to exonerate Erap’s involvement in murders except to offer assurances that Erap would do nothing of the sort

    Therefore Enrile’s speech was really a cheap stunt to court the sympathy of Erap’s loyal followers.

  37. The sad part of this entire drama — and I really believe it’s sad, is that Erap IS a likeable chap — no question that he’s not (but I’m sure so was Judas Iscariot.)

    Erap absolutely charming; he had (or still has) a humble demeanour and was/is easy going when he dealt/deals with people.

    But I’m afraid, these traits aren’t enough to make him a good president. These traits also don’t prove that he is not the person Lacson paints him to be.

  38. Ooops, ellen, naging bold lahat! Dang) I just wanted to emphasize “Erap IS a likeable chap”

  39. Tedanz Tedanz

    “Therefore Enrile’s speech was really a cheap stunt to court the sympathy of Erap’s loyal followers.” —- AdeBrux
    Ang statement mo ay puwedeng totoo ….. sa totoo lang mas tahimik siguro ang ating gobyerno kung mawala na yang sila Enrile, Santiago, Puno, Pimentel, Joker at isama pa itong si Lacson at Honasan. Nandiyan naman na sila Gen. Lim at Querubin na kahit hindi ako boto dito sa dalawa pero oks na din … kaysa mamimili pa ako ng mga dati na na alam ko namang mga bugok.

  40. baguneta baguneta

    Balweg, kinampihan lang ni enrile si erap eh hero na si enrile sayo. Remember kung kanino nagtraydor si enrile, di ba kay marcos. After how many years? Baka kung ipagtanggol ni mike arroyo si erap eh hero narin si mike sa iyo. Huwag ganyan, ang pinaguusapan ay yung issue at hindi yung mga taong gumaganap sa issue. Kung babaligtarin ba na si erap ang nasa posisyon ni lacson at si lacson nasa posisyon ni erap eh … kakampi ka kay lacson?

  41. Tedanz Tedanz

    baguneta, hindi naman sinabi ni Igan balweg na hero niya si Enrile. Tungkol lang naman sa friendship nung dalawa ang sinabi. Normal sa tao na ipagtanggol ang isang kaibigan at hindi traydorin.

  42. baguneta baguneta

    Kaibigan ba ang turing ni erap kay lacson?

  43. baguneta baguneta

    Tedanz, uulitin ko…ang pinaguusapan ay yung issue at hindi yung mga taong gumaganap sa issue. Kung babaligtarin ba na si erap ang nasa posisyon ni lacson at si lacson nasa posisyon ni erap eh … kakampi ka kay lacson?

  44. Tedanz —

    ““Therefore Enrile’s speech was really a cheap stunt to court the sympathy of Erap’s loyal followers.””

    Give credit where credit is due please; that was by Manuel Buencamino.

  45. florry florry

    Enrile just shows what friendship is all about. It’s about loyalty in good times and bad times. It’s not like those whom you call friends but back-stab and drop you like a hot potato when they feel that they no longer need you.

    In Lacson’s case, he is done with all the endorsements of Erap, but he still needs him: as a punching bag as a way of showing Noynoy that he is up to the job. It’s his way of licking the a..s of Noynoy. Oh my how come he went down so low!

    Everybody, one way or another has some friends, but will it stand the way Erap and Enrile’s friendship?

    And who needs a friend like Ping Lacson?

  46. totingmulto totingmulto

    That man of dubious character. Mga tanga lang ang maniniwala kay enrile.

  47. baguneta baguneta

    Kaya nga “tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are”. Nasa senado si Lacson hindi upang ipangalandakan ang kanyang galing sa pakikisama. Nasa senado sya dahil may tungkulin sya sa mamamayan ng Pilipinas. Yung speech ni enrile ay para ma divert lang ang issue sa kanya at kung sasagutin sya ni lacson eh mawawala ang focus ni lacson sa mga estradang ganid. Pang-lansi lang ang pakikisawsaw ng original traydor.

  48. Tedanz Tedanz

    AdeBrux,
    Kay manuel ba ito ….. kala ko sa iyo. Sorry …

    “““Therefore Enrile’s speech was really a cheap stunt to court the sympathy of Erap’s loyal followers.”””
    Uulitin ko ulit … manuelbuencamino — tama ka 99.9%

  49. tama ka 99.9%

    How charitable of you Tedanz! Many thanks.

  50. Tedanz Tedanz

    Igang baguneta …. kung ako ang tatanungin mo kung sino ang kakampihan ko …. madali lang yan …. kakampihan “ko” yong alam kung tama.

  51. baguneta baguneta

    Pareho tayo…yung tama.

  52. henry90 henry90

    Just a curious observation. . .bakit kapareho ng linya ng mga taga Malacanang itong si Manong Johnny? Bakit ayaw sagutin ng maayos yung privilege speech kung wala namang itinatago? Puede namang iinterpellate ni Jinggoy si Lacson para malaman kung nagsisinungaling siya. Kaso lang limitado ang kaalaman kaya kailangang turuan pa muna kung ano ang isasagot kahit na siya na mismo ang binabanatan? Parang style Villar di ba? Kung malinis talaga konsensiya mo kayang-kaya mong harapin ang nang-aakusa sa yo kahit bali-baligtarin pa man ang mga pangyayari. Mas natural ang dating ng taong di nagsisinungaling kung walang script na hinahawakan.Bakit “file your case in court” ang sagot ng mga inaakusa? Diba walang pinagkaiba yun dito sa ikinagagalit nating lahat na laging sagot ng Malacanang tuwing binabanatan ang Tiyanak at ang Tabatsoy? “Maghabla kayo sa korte”. Para matulog ang kaso at mabaon sa limot? Ganun ba ang ibig sabihin nun? Ok lang sa kanila pag sila ang nag akusa sa isang privilege speech pero pag sila na inaakusahan, ihabla na lang sa korte? Pag mahina nga naman ang kukote mo oo. . .tapos mangangarap pa nang mataas na posisyon. . .Juice ko pong pineapple. . .

  53. totingmulto totingmulto

    Lest we forget.

    1. Bakit si manong naging senate president during gloria’s term? Ok, manong ang erap are best of friends. How about his friendship with gloria? Di ba very obvious?

    2. Sino ang mga in house counsels ni gloria and her family during the senate investigations, di ba si manong and brenda? And this manong has the gall to describe his frienship with erap. Abogado siya ni gloria na nagpatalsik kay erap. Sino ang tunay na traydor?

    Ito namang si jinggoy na utak bulinaw ay nag ala mikey arroyo. ” Sue us in court”. Buhay nga naman.

  54. xman xman

    Ano ba ang gusto ng pamilya ni Dacer?

    “Kung silang dalawa makakapagbigay kung sino talaga ang nag-utos, kasi ngayon ang nangyayari nagtuturuan sila on TV or sa media, nagpapa-interview lang sila , .. ang nangyayari – iyon nga turuan. Ayusin na lang natin sa korte, ilabas na lang ang mga ebidensiya para matapos na. Kasi 9 years na nga eh. Buti nagsasalita na sila ngayon, Huli man pero buti na rin,” Dacer’s daughter said finally.

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/09/22/09/dacer-daughter-asks-lacson-erap-execute-affidavits

  55. totingmulto totingmulto

    Kaibigang xman,

    The truth is, the case against erap and lacson is very weak. With mancao and dumlao’s testimonies only,it has no leg to stand on in court. Kawawang dacer family, still looking for additional evidences.

  56. martina martina

    Enrile and Erap have one thing in common that really stands out – pareho na silang past retirement age, pwede bang magretire na lang sila bago maging mga ulyanin. No offense to the oldies, pero kung hindi sila greedy, dapat tapusin na nila ang kanilang mga career, fair lang sa mga pinoys na matikman naman ang iba.

  57. parasabayan parasabayan

    i ws half awake when Enrile was talking so I did not hear everything he said. But I really do not care about what he says. One day he defends the boobuwit and the next day he does the same thing to Erap. No sense of loyalty to anybody, just to himself. Alam niya na boobuwit is on her way out (kailangang kaladkarin siya kung ayaw niyang umalis). This vulture stabbed Marcos in the back, floated in Cory’s time, swan with gusto in Ramos time, dribbled in Erap’s and now, he is still dribbling! All I know is tghis guy denuded Cagayan Valley of its trees and made so much money from it. Now he owns a lot of businesses! He should retire! Ulianin na siya!

  58. parasabayan parasabayan

    Correction: swam with gusto in Ramos time.

  59. parasabayan parasabayan

    All I can see in this Corbito-Dacer case is DRAMA! This drama takes the heat off the first corrupt family for now! It is very obvious that all evidences in this case are corrupted and witnesses intimidated. I feel so sorry for the family of the slain (if indeed they are trully dead). The family should be so confused by now!

  60. Golberg Golberg

    Nung isang Linggo lang itong expose ni Lacson. Bakit kaya?
    Utang na loob at pakikisama din kaya yung pananahimik niya? Eh alam pala niyang mamamatay tao si Erap. Chief of Police noon. Inunahan pa ng civil society na magsagawa ng coup. At dahil sa tsismis, nagkaroon nga ng coup.
    Prinsipyo na lang ang paiiralin di pa pinairal. Wala nga naman kasing pera kung may prinsipyo ka.

  61. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Henry90, I agree with you there.

    When Jinggoy did not want to interpellate Lacson after Lacson’s first privilege speech, I thought it was understandable because the subject of Lacson’s speech was Erap and not Jinggoy.

    Obviously Jinggoy had to consult his father before interpellating Lacson. But all he could come up with as a response was a privilege speech painting Lacson as a man without utang na loob. This was not refuting the allegations of Lacson.

    In Lacson’s second privilege speech, Jinggoy was already part of the subject matter. But he still decided not to interpellate especially that part about a son betraying his father and his brother.

    Not refuting or even asking basic questions gives the impression that there could be some truth to what Lacson was saying.

  62. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    And what’s with this “utang na loob” argument? That’s a mafiosi’s style and does not belong in Senate debates.

  63. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    As for Enrile’s privilege speech defense of Erap, it wasn’t much of a defense at all. If you look closely at what he said, it was like “Erap, you did me a favor once. I owe you. So now I am here to say you are not such a bad chap. But on this Dacer-Corbito case, you’re on your own.”

  64. henry90 henry90

    Phil,

    Yan ang tinatawag sa Psychology na “contrary to human behavior”. . . pag wala kang kasalanan, di ba manggagalaiti ka sa galit at kung puede lang sugurin mo yung nang aakusa sa yo at bugbugin di ba? It is often said that television is a cruel medium and indeed any simpleton will immediately know kung guilty ka of something or not by your demeanor. As movie actors, it was ironic that Father and Son were not able to exploit the tv medium to their advantage. Instead, they were made to look like fools and bumbling idiots by not confronting their accuser to prove their innocence. . . or mahirap lang talaga mag English sa plenary ng Senado? Kaya nga ba ayaw na lang mag comment ni Lito Lapid e. . .hehe

  65. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    henry90,

    I was, indeed expecting Jinggoy to man the ramparts, slam and pound Lacson from the rostrum… but no, he just sat there twitching his now non-existent mustache and smoldering like a big black boulder excreted from a seething volcano.

  66. Superkicker Superkicker

    Phil, oo nga eh, dapat nag-interpolate na lang si Sen. Jinggoy sa mga isyu ni Sen. Lacson para natapos na sana. Sa ngayon nga, may 3rd part pa daw ng privilege speech nya..hanggang ilang speech kaya yung gagawin nya?…hmmmnnn…hindi ba pwedeng isang bagsakan yung speech?

    Sana lang sa bandang huli, tayong mamamayan ng Pilipinas ang manalo. Pero sa tingin ko, ikinatutuwa ng tao sa Malakanyang ang pagsasabong ng dalawang oposisyon na ito eh…hays…natalpan na tuloy ang mga isyu nila.

    Sayang yung mga inilabas ng Vera Files, natakpan na yata..:(

  67. andres andres

    Bravo to Phil Cruz and some elitists here! With the kind of thinking you have, there is no chance for an objective comment from you. Masyadong sarado ang isipan. Minsan naman ang linya mo ginaya mo lang sa isang pahayag ng isang lider ng oposisyon.

    Are you holier than thou?

  68. balweg balweg

    Balweg, kinampihan lang ni enrile si erap eh hero na si enrile sayo?

    Ang linaw ng Datos nitong ating topic Kgg. Baguneta, what’s WRONG about Manong Enrile’s statement…tha’t was personal and if whoever have owned prerogatives sa kanyang sinabi…sa inyong pananaw yan and nobody question or argue with you.

    Ang punto nang mensahe ay ang kabutihan ng kanilang pagkakaibigan…ano ang masama doon? About other things na nasa inyong kukote e wala akong magagawa diyan sapagka’t yan ang inyong pananaw about him.

    Any arguments…dapat pag-usapan yan sa proper forum sapagka’t hanggang sa kwento na lang yan mauuwi, tutal libre naman to express our side and opinion so be it, why not?

  69. Henry,

    pag wala kang kasalanan, di ba manggagalaiti ka sa galit at kung puede lang sugurin mo yung nang aakusa sa yo at bugbugin di ba?

    There is no other name for a man who cannot rise to the challenge even as his father is being villified to his face but that of a coward.

    Either that or napakabait niya!

  70. Sabi ni Ka Enchong (sa other post), dapat si Jinggoy ang magdala sa court at magdemanda — siya ang aggrieved.

    Oo nga naman. E, bakit naka-smirk lang si Jinggoy?

    Ang bait naman niya… 🙂

  71. wala kang kamalay-malay. . .tsk

    Well, if he becomes president again, he must not drink so much anymore… pag nakudetahan siya dahil wala [siyang] kamalay-malay kasalanan na niya.

  72. balweg balweg

    With the kind of thinking you have, there is no chance for an objective comment from you. Masyadong sarado ang isipan?

    Yan ang problema ng ating lipunan Kgg. Andres, ang mga nagmamarunong sa ating bansa ang siyang salot sa ating lipunan sapagka’t idinadaan nila sa hungkag na pangangatwiran.

    Kailangan nating magmove on…paano titino ang ating bansa kung ang recycled issues e laging multo na laging nananakot sa takot nang mga Pinoy?

    Kita mo paurong ang Pinas sapagka’t ang daming Pinoy na ang iniisip ay manglamang sa kapwa-Pinoy at nagmamarunong wala namang ibubuga puro kayabangan lang ang alam.

    Akala nila e bright na sila upang pamunuan ang bansa…mahihirapan silang pagandahin ang Pinas hangga’t inaapi nila ang Masang Pilipino at sorry na lang sa mga iba diyan na kayang utuin ng mga eletista con Yellow Fever wannabees!

  73. luzviminda luzviminda

    Amen ka Balweg!

  74. Kailangan nating magmove on

    Hindi ba iyan ang favourite slogan ng civil society?

  75. andres andres

    to the yellow army of Noynoy:

    sana naman mag-isip kayo sa ginagawa ninyo! Bakit ninyo pinapasubo si Noynoy gayung obvious naman na di siya handa.

    Mga sarado kasi ang isipan ng mga nasa civil sociey kaya hindi objective ang mga komento.

  76. henry90 henry90

    Boni,

    Relax lang. Nasa demokrasya tayo. Ipagtanggol nyo lang yung kandidato nyo. Yaan mo na yung iba sa paniniwala nila. . .Igalang natin ang mga pananaw nila. It doesn’t mean na pag komontra sa idol nyo e evil society na agad. . .peace igan. . .talakayan lang to. . .wag tayo padadala sa simbuyo ng ating mga damdamin. . .

  77. andres andres

    henry90,

    Ok lang ang talakayan, pero sa mga ibang katulad mo, sarado kasi ang pag-iisip. Sa inyo naman, kapag medyo idinidipensa lamang si Erap ay fan na at idol na agad. May tama kaming pag-iisip kahit na kami ay masa. Ang mga elitista nga ang sarado ang isip eh!

  78. Gabriela Gabriela

    Ay naku, after Ping Lacson’s expose, Erap is now trying hard to make a graceful exit. Kaya gusto makipag-usap with the Noynoy camp.Talks being brokered by Jojo Binay.

    Yung kanyang bravado about 99.9 percent on with his presidency is nothing but bravado.

    He has lost whatever leverage he had before the Lacson expose. Paano kasi naman gagamitin mo ba naman ang masa appeal mo for personal interest.

    What he wanted was to have two slots in the senatroial slate, his man in one of the high revenue-earning agencies and protection from any case to be filed against him.

    Hindi na sana siya masyado nagpatagal pa. Dapat noon nagdesisyun na siya to just be a “kingmaker” rather than run again.

    Nagpasulsul kasi kina Maceda, na gusto rin lang kumita. Ayan, bagsak niya kangkungan

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