By Nancy C. Carvajal, Marinel Cruz
Philippine Daily Inquirer
Show biz celebrity Kris Aquino confronted a female fan of her husband, basketball star James Yap, shouting insults at the woman and her mother just outside their upscale Pasig City residence late Wednesday, the Inquirer learned Thursday.
The popular TV host and movie actress spent about 10 minutes at the gate of the Valle Verde 2 home of Mayen Austria, 35, according to Austria’s uncle, Gabby Lopez (no relation to the ABS-CBN chair).
Lopez said he was at the Austria residence and that the family was entertaining guests—including Legazpi City Bishop Joel Baylon—when Aquino arrived.
Reached on the phone Thursday night, Baylon confirmed he was at the Austria residence when Aquino arrived, but “I only knew about it when Mayen, between sobs, related to us the incident immediately after Kris left.”
Baylon said he didn’t see the actual encounter since he was inside the house with another guest, a nun based in Spain.
The bishop said Mayen and her mother Minna—whose family had been his friends for more than 20 years—were “obviously distressed” by what happened.
Lopez refused to elaborate on the incident, saying he didn’t want to add to the “trauma” suffered by his niece. “All I can say is God sides with who is right and tells the truth,” he said in a phone interview.
Pressed for details, Lopez replied: “I don’t want to answer that, but I now know who I will not vote for.”
Kris is a daughter of the late President Corazon Aquino and youngest sibling of Sen. Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III, the Liberal Party standard-bearer in the May presidential elections.
Boy Abunda version
But according to TV host and Aquino’s best friend Boy Abunda, she was “very cool and polite” during her encounter with Austria, Yap’s rumored girlfriend.
It would, therefore, be “unfair” to say that Aquino quarreled with a girl over James.
Abunda explained: “Kris was bothered when she heard James talking on the phone with a girl who was crying. She learned from James that the girl was heartbroken and was confiding in him.”
“Kris said that since she was in the neighborhood, she might as well introduce herself to the girl and the girl’s family,” he said.
Aquino also lives in Valle Verde 2 but has reportedly sold her house and is said to be moving out at the end of the month.
Aquino showed up at the gate of the Austria residence at around 4 p.m. Wednesday, when the family was hosting visitors in their living room, according to another source who declined to be named.
“Mayen went out and saw Aquino, who immediately threw invectives at her,” the source said.
Mayen’s mother heard the commotion from inside the house and went out to see her daughter already in tears.
“(Aquino) also shouted at her (Minna): Anong klaseng nanay ka? Anong klase ang palaki mo sa anak mo? (What kind of mother are you? What kind of upbringing did you give your child?)” the source said.
Mother and daughter did not answer back, until Aquino left, the source said.
But in Abunda’s version of the incident, Aquino first spoke with Austria’s mom about what has been going on in her relationship with Yap.
“She said they almost split up in December and that they were separated for weeks. Kris also told [Austria’s mom] that she is fighting hard for their marriage. She said she really wanted their marriage to work. In the middle of their conversation, (Mayen) arrived and said there was nothing going on between her and James and that they’re just friends,” Abunda said.
‘Just a basketball fan’
Abunda insisted that Aquino “spoke in a very low voice” during her conversation with the Austrias.
He also said Mayen was not Yap’s girlfriend but a fan of his professional basketball team, Purefoods Tender Juicy Giants.
“In all fairness to James, he did not hide from Kris that he was talking with the girl. I think he even used his phone in front of Kris,” Abunda stressed.
“I understood why Kris did it. I would’ve done the same thing. It was unfair to say that Kris quarreled with the girl. She spoke with caution and temperance. It’s just that with what’s happening between them, she thought that if there was a problem, hindi na n’ya palalakihin pa (she won’t blow out it of proportion). She would like to nip it in the bud.”
In 2007, Yap was rumored to have had romantic liaisons with Hope Centeno, then a receptionist at the Belo Medical Clinic, which Aquino used to endorse. Yap denied the rumors.
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Ricky Lo’s version in Philippine Star
Last Wednesday (Jan. 13) at around 5: 30 p.m., I got the following text message from a friend: May sinugod na babae si Kris Aquino sa Valle Verde…pinagsuspetsahan daw ‘yung babae na girlfriend ni James (Yap, Kris’ husband)… Paki-verify.
My first impulse was to call Kris but either she “cannot be reached” or “the person you’re calling is out of coverage area.”
So I did the next best thing: Mobilize the Funfare mole code-named Jumpy Kangaroo (deeply imbedded in the Aquino-Yap household) to check posthaste. Here’s his report:
Kris and James were having a late lunch at 2 p.m. that day when James’ celfon rang. The caller was a girl, crying, and saying, “I did everything already…” blah-blah-blah. Kris did what any wife would do (and considering that she and James have just survived a “Lovers’ Quarrel” sorted out during a post-Christmas family trip to Bangkok): she asked James who the girl was and why she’s crying on his shoulder. James had hung up after telling the girl that he’d call her later.
A little discussion (not an argument) followed during which James told Kris that the girl was having a problem with her boyfriend (somebody else) and that the girl has been his long-time (Purefoods) fan. Like any puzzled wife, Kris asked James, “Why would she be crying on your shoulder, for that matter on a man she knows very well who is very much married?” Normal reaction, wasn’t it?
For quite a time now, the girl has been sending James chocolates or cakes or other goodies, addressed only to James, making Kris wonder, “If she can’t write my name or those of our children, why doesn’t she just address them to ‘James and Family’ para naman mawala ang suspicion?”
The little incident didn’t end there.
While being made up for the day’s work by Bambbi Fuentes, she got a “forwarded” text message (from where, it wasn’t made clear), purportedly from James who was telling the girl to just say sorry to Kris “at nang matapos na lahat.” That made Kris even more suspicious. Any wife would react the same way, right?
So Kris decided to drop by the girl’s house (also in Valle Verde) where the girl’s mom very nicely met her. Kris politely turned down the mom’s invitation”to come in” and simply, very politely, told the mom the whole incident. Kris never raised her voice (unlike perhaps most “aggrieved” wives); she was calm as she reminded the mom that she and James are working very hard at saving their marriage and calls or text messages from “any girl” to James is the last thing that they wanted especially at this stage when they (Kris and James) have just patched things up.
Kris didn’t make sugod the girl. She only wanted to relay to the girl the message that she should refrain from calling or texting James since James is very much married and it doesn’t look good for her to be doing that. Siempre naman, kahit sinong wife ay hindi matutuwa sa ganoon.
(Note: I asked Jumpy Kangaroo what the moral of the story is and he said, “Huwag po magti-text or tatawag sa isang lalaking may-asawa. ‘Yon lang po.” Wives out there, agree or disagree?)
Another ‘showbiz’ intrigue that will surely be taken advantage of by Noynoy’s rivals. Expect the brickbats flying here shortly. hehehe
Moral of the story…. Don’t fool around with a married man.Susugurin talaga kayo ng misis.
i guess most if not all married women will say kris did the righ thing
“I understood why Kris did it. I would’ve done the same thing……”
Kaya nga alagang alaga ni Boy Abunda ang kanyang fafa para hindi siya masingitan ng iba. Di ba, Tita Migz at Tita Rich?
Huli ka na naman James?! Kris has got to accept the fact already that her choice of men are of the “Tiger Woods” variety, konti na lang kaming natitirang matitino really…
I could just be as upset as Kris or any wife would be. the girl does not have any reason to cry on James shoulder. There are a lot of other should she could cry on including the bishop’s. Her motive is quite clear.
Ellen, I cannot access malaya.
Teka lang… teka lang! Ako’y nagugulumihanan! Éh sino ba ang naging napakahilig magpapatol sa mga lalakeng may–asawa?! Pati ba naman yúng nanay dapat pang tanungin kung anong klaseng ina, at kung anong palaki ang ginawa sa anak?!
Haayyy… dakdakerang walang utak!! 😡
Aquino is a high-profile personality. Anything she does on the romance front will always be a source of media blitz, rightly or wrongly. This could have a negative effect on her brother’s ambition.
Also, not sure if “confronting” the girl is the right thing to do; perhaps a more “discreet” way of doing it — instead of doing it the scandalous way, could serve her purpose. She’s had so many brushes of this kind which sort of shows a definitive lack of class.
If her suspicions are founded, creating a scene, i.e., public confrontation of the other woman, may not be the right way of keeping her man. Would’ve been better perhaps to settle it with her husband.
(Thing is she’s not been exactly the epitome of righteousness, has she? After all, she’s known to have stolen the husband of another woman too…)
Kapag ganyan kay James ang asawa, left turns ay habit na. Kris should bring him to a cleaner. Kumuha uli ng bagong asawa.
I don’t take it against Noynoy. Kris is not the one running for president. Sabi nga, we can’t choose our relatives. Si Kris ay eskandalosa na noon pa, wala akong pakialam sa kanya.
Basta priority ko ay mawala si Gloria Arroyo at hindi palitan ng kakambal niyang si C5-taga Villar.
Kung ang maraming babae ni Erap ay hindi ko ginawang isyu sa kanyang panguluhan, si Kris pa kaya sakaling palarin ang kapatid? Ganun din kay Villar, pakialam ko na sinipat niya si Cynthia kaya siya yumaman.
Sa ganyang mga personal na isyu ay medyo bukas ang aking isip. Iba nang usapan kung official/public duties ang babuyin ng mga halal at appointed officials na isang dahilan ay pamilya/relatives. Speculations pa lang lahat ng influence ni Kris kung presidente na si Kuya Noy. Talo tayo niyan if we would dwell on it.
Kapag ganyan kay James ang asawa, left turns ay habit na. Kris should bring him to a cleaner. Kumuha uli ng bagong asawa.
Good advice Chi (was about to say the same thing…) if the basketballing husband has done it before, likely the fellow will do it again.
But Chik, wala namang divorce sa Philippines so paano siya puwedeng kumuha ng another asawa? You mean pick up a male concubine? (Concubinage?)
Ang dapat dakdakin ni Kris ay walang iba kundi si James. Otherwise, mapagsasabihan niya ang lahat ng babae sa Pilipinas ay wala ring mangyayari. 💡 8)
Anna,
Marriage can be annulled in Pinas, legal separation yata ang tawag. I think the church can also grant separation whatever, but not divorce. It happened in Sharon Cuneta’s case. Of course the circumstances were different but just the same, legal annulment of marriage is available in Pinas.
My friend got annulment from her tarantadong asawa years back. If none, yeah…why not, just pick up a male concubine than making James her lifetime partner. Daming ganyan, she wouldn’t be the first, hehehe.
Chi,
Marriage annulled by the state? What about by the church?
Am not familiar with marriage thinggies in Pinas. So, if annullment takes place (assuming it’s official state annullment), can woman (or man) really take partner to the cleaner’s and walk away with a stash of goodies like in divorce cases, Western style?
For me it would be simple — if my darling ever did something like that to me, wouldn’t think twice. I’d take him to the cleaner’s and walk away with 80 to 85% of assets. No eskandalo necessary, waste of time and precious rations 🙂
That said, I wouldn’t take it against a woman if she decided to stick it out with the man no matter the philandering (her life, her problem, her whatever.)
Normal lang yan na reaksyon ng isang nagmamahal sa kanyang asawa. Buti nga hindi niya pinatay. Sa Arabya pinagbabato ang mga taong ganyan hanggang sa mamatay. Ang hirap kasi sa atin kung sino pa ang naki-apid sila pa itong matapang … kasi kapalmuks sila. Sampol na lang si Krista at si Halili.
Tama ka Henry … magte-teyk advantage ang grupong Villar dito sa insidenteng ito. Katakot-takot na pera na naman ang pakakawalan ng taong ito para lang maging sensesiyonalayz ang balitang ito. Kikita na naman ang ilang media pipol. lol
I tried making family trees of friends, celebrities and even priests for legal matters on real estates. At first I cant make out simple lineages because I cant place so many girl friends with offsprings with a single husband, then I come across interbreedings, normal with patriarchs. Its difficult to place incestious lines that create mongoloids, then there are those husbands that married others for greencard conveniences. Among the screen people, there would be multiplicity of changes of partners. Rarely did I find serious jealousness of affected spouses.
The article above is biased in favor of Kris Aquino.
What goes around comes around, that’s how it goes, right? When you f**k around(and Kris had done a lot of that), you get your turn, sooner or later. Yeah, even if you insist you’re sorry and promise not to do it again.
Karma!
Anna, as to your question #10…it’s Pinas style, basta makawala lang sa asawa and get another one so they won’t be ridiculed by anyone or avoid being called “kabit”. You know, konting pa-virtue, hehehe!
I have not heard of any couples who underwent/granted legal separation talked publicly of separation/settlement of assets western style, baka kanya-kanya or personal settlement na lang. In case of Sharon, she’s richer and bringing Gabby to the cleaner was useless, wala yatang pera yun, hahaha! With my friend’s case, she just wanted to get out of an abusive relationship, but she got the house including the GSIS payables. Saka wala rin pera/properties yung ex, hehe.
Also, I think that Sharon’s case was especial to the church (tsismis ko lang), but my friend’s was legal separation granted by the court.
but my friend’s was legal separation granted by the court.
Maybe SaxnV can tell us… in Pinas court granted legal separation, can couple re-marry, i.e., authorised to marry a different person?
Kaya nga, Isagani, individual ‘personal’ karma yan. So walang kinalaman dyan si Noynoy. The brother has nothing to do with her choice of partners. Malinaw lang ay magkapatid sila. They share a common DNA but not the heart and thoughts.
Wonder why Pinas just doesn’t pass a divorce law. So many people I know, particularly OFWs, are anyway living with a partner who is not their original wedding partner.
My own Pinay maid in Malaysia was in tears after arriving from a vacation in Pinas when she discovered that her husband had gone off to live with another woman and had a child by the other woman whom I learned had also left her spouse because the latter had gone off with another woman after the said woman’s husband had gone away as an OFW. 🙂 What a bloody mess! 🙂
And all these “partnerships” are done in all illegality because there’s no divorce law in Pinas.
Ang tamang moral of the story dito ay pag sawa na sa isa’t isa, maghiwalay na kayo at humanap na ng bagong kaligayahan. I know si Chi ay hindi pabor dito pero ito’y practical ngayon.
Not to speak of the alta sociedad in Pinas… So many folks I know in the so-called haute société are also separated from their original spouse and living marital lives with other partners publicly and proudly.
Pinas should pass divorce laws…
(And then you see them at mass receiving holy communion! Sanamagan — what hypocrisy.)
it’s Pinas style, basta makawala lang sa asawa and get another one so they won’t be ridiculed by anyone or avoid being called “kabit”.
Hahahahhah! Kalimutan ko na yan word na yan ah. Di gamitin na lang ang ingles – concubine!
I know si Chi ay hindi pabor dito — edfaji
Pabor nga si Chi. So am I, if you ask me.
On the contrary, edfaji…I completely agree with you. Huh, dehins mo alam ang takbo ng utak ko, haha…
Naunahan ako ni Anna, my buddy in heart and thoughts…hehehe.
🙂
“And all these “partnerships” are done in all illegality because there’s no divorce law in Pinas.” – AdeBrux
Why no make it legal, let all concerned parties form a corporation. 😛
Something tells me this is going to be a very long thread discussion. 🙂
Anna, meron ng divorce/legal separation sa Pinas. My sister got divorce or legally separated from her husband. My mother said it’s divorce(wala naman sa atin nun, but to my mother,she calls a break in marriage, divorce!)
So ayun my sister married a very rich markano! She behaves like some kind of Kris Aquino now. May utang kuno sa kanya ang mundo. Ha, ha, ha…
I think I mentioned this in another thread. There’s this party list group that is proposing a ten year marriage contract.
Here’s a link:
http://www.spot.ph/2010/01/08/10-year-marriage-contracts-proposed-by-womens-group/
Agree or disagree? 😛
May bago na pala akong kasangga, si Anna ng Francia. Ito ang hirap minsan pag celebrity ka kaunting sugod lang, eh, big news na at nasama pa iyong kapatid na wala namang nalalaman. Sana naman kung wala na talagang pagmamahal si James sabihin na niya at ready kami rito na “tulongan” si Kris. Anong say niyo mga katoto?
I don’t think Kris is/was married in Church thus hindi sacramento ang kasal niya kay James…thus it does not need church annulment. Annulment is granted after a process in the church tribunal..thus marrisge should be null and void from inception..that is all it takes prove that your marriage in church was null and void. Divorce is accepted by the church BUT you can not remarry in church..the sacrament of marriage is given only once..and “until death do us part” means physical death NOT emotional death..ko ako siya..Make your choice ako si Kris isang tanong kay James ..pili ka..Ako o Siya..kung siya get the hell out of here…total hindi naman sila kasal sa simbahan..get state annulment…it is simple as A B C.. Ako Ba o Cia!
P/S..By experience I know what I am talking about..I used to work as secretary in the church…and the church rules are universal…
wala naman sa atin nun, but to my mother,she calls a break in marriage, divorce!)
Isagani,
Is her 2nd marriage legally and officially recognised in Pinas?
sorry mali mali ang tagalog ko sa #1..kung ako si Kris..ang tanong para kay James…Ako o Siya? if they were not married in church…
I don’t think Kris is/was married in Church thus hindi sacramento ang kasal niya kay James… — Rose
Ah ganoon ba. So, married civilly only? In that case, tama ka no need for an [church] annullment, if ever.
But wait, wasn’t this Aquino girl married to an ex-mayor of Pasay?
Yes, indeed… church rules are universal.
“Ako o Siya? if they were not married in church…” — rose
Agree! (And even if they were married in church, any woman in a similar position should ask the same question.)
edfaji,
What is “kasangga”?
Actually, this post is interesting in that it helps raise the the thorny issue of whether an official divorce law is necessary in Pinas or not.
Not saying that married couples should give themselves a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or even umpteenth chance to make things work but for those who have no wish to give marital life a go, a divorce is sometimes a good option.
I’ve got girl friends in Manila who are in a bind — husband left for another living a marital life publicly (all but in name), yet the (original) wife is not free to re-marry and thus both couples are in a legal limbo.
Ay mali…
Not saying that married couples should NOT give themselves a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or even umpteenth chance but…
kasangga- pinoy colloquial for friends or you are on the same fence…
edfaji, no one can help Kris when it comes to problems of the heart, sabog ang babae na iyan kapag puso ang umandar. She should grow up by experiencing the pains/heartaches she brings to herself. Kung hindi, magdusa sya hanggang huli, hahaha!
Thanks, Chi. 🙂
(One more thing I’ve been wanting to ask, a word that Rose has used more than a couple of times, “putot” … what exactly does it mean 🙂 )
I know “utot” is fart but putot?
#29. Mike, I strongly disagree. Divorce kung divorce. Why limit a marriage to 10 years, e kung hindi umabot dun at magsalpukan na sila, what’s the use? Sabagay, partners can always terminate their marriage even before reaching 10 years, but I don’t see the logic of this group.
Ano ba yan, lifted sa US Navy partnership?
but I don’t see the logic of this group. — Chi
🙂 🙂 🙂
“putot” is very short, only not possessing the features of a midget.
Ahhhh, is that so? That isn’t a tagalog word now, or is it?
In other words, “knee-high to a grasshopper”. 🙂
Tama ka Chi, talagang puso ni Kris sabog at mukhang mahirap unawain. Biruin mo natatandaan ko noong maghiwalay sila ni Joey Marquez sinabi ba naman niya sa mundo na may sipilis siyang nakuha sa kanya . . . I’m just wondering wala bang nag aadvise sa kanya? Nasaan si Monsignor Soc Villegas at iyong mga pari, nuns, civil society katulad ni Lea Navarro? Nasaan kayo ngayong kailangan kayo ni Kris?
Pagnanalo si Noynoy malamang may PSG na guard na din si James.
Mahirap bantayan si James point guard kasi yan. But seriously, sa dami naman ng tao si James pa tinawagan ng babae pati cellphone alam.
Re: There’s this party list group that is proposing a ten year marriage contract.
Aha! 10 years return or exchange policy. Parang durable goods.
Korek, Anna…si Gloria talaga wala lang masyadong midget muscles, lol.
Gotta go and see “It’s Complicated”, a comedy of a divorced couple.
“Pagnanalo si Noynoy malamang may PSG na guard na din si James.” – jojovelas2005
PSG’s worst nightmare. 😀
Paano siya maka-lusot para mag-dribble at suak shot.
Anna ask’s:
Isagani,
Is her 2nd marriage legally and officially recognised in Pinas?
Well, I guess so. Fact is, it was my brother who is a lawyer in Pinas who took care of it. There were no rants on the part of my sister’s ex.
Besides, I don’t think my sister cares about legalities! She is an US cit and enjoying the expensive things in life. She is very ostentatious. $100.00 for an ash try. For all you know you may have already met her since she has a residence in Paris.
If I am not mistaken, she is very much like Kris – a selfish, spoiled brat.
Hmmm… $100.00 for an ash tr[a]y — Isagani
Must be solid silver vintage or antique Victorian sterling silver ash tray? If so, it will be a good investment 🙂
I haven’t met a richisme Pinay in Paris but I know there are a few wealthy wealthy Pinays there. Just don’t know them. Must say, only know 1 or 2 Pinays in Paris that I can say “I know…”
and they’re well off but not super wealthy.
A very very rich guy getting a divorce should get it in Europe, where wives are at a disadvantage at divorce settlement. Europe courts will be okay with wife “..living comfortably — house and generous living allowance”, not the fifty-fifty rule of USA. Europe in general has pro-male divorce settlement rules.. London and Belgium in particular. [ Again, that’s if the husband is very rich.]
Pepito,
A very very rich guy getting a divorce should get it in Europe, where wives are at a disadvantage at divorce settlement. Europe courts will be okay with wife
Wrong… depends on the country. In the UK, a wife could run away with the bulk of the assets/money, eg., 80 to 85%. Many California women with rich husbands are setting residence in London to sue their husband for divorce under UK laws. The UK is trying to change the laws but not yet there. My English brother in law was left with only 20% of the assets when his wife divorced him. Fortunately, he had enough to sustain him (and to think they didn’t have children.)
In France… A wife is entitled to a lump sum representing compensation for each year of marriage outside of the monies awarded by divorce courts (divorce courts are separated from other tribunals in France)under the law of prestation compensatoire, i.e., compensation for the number of years of marriage is above and beyond the 50-50% decreed by court (if not more depending on the lifestyle of the couple), added to that, the wife gets alimony and other stipends for children.
A Pinay girl I know walked away (in 1992) with a million Francs (currency was still French Francs then) in compensation and then 50% of the assets of what was left plus 25,000 Francs in monthly alimony which at the time was the salary of a mid-level executive. The husband was not filthy rich but he had to pay up the money and is still paying. (All based on Napoleonic law which is the same in Belgium.)
However, in Scotland, women are at a disadvantage — divorce is almost always beneficial to the man. Divorce laws in Scotland are very hard on women (but what can you expect, Scots have a miserly reputation, just like ilocanos — they are kuripots 🙂 )
Ooops, “In England [not UK], a wife could run away with the bulk of the assets/money, eg., 80 to 85%.
AdB: putot is a visayan word for shorty…
I do agree that legal divorce should be approved in the Phil..total marami naman ang kaliwa’t kanan sa mga marriages sa atin..Muslims are allowed several wives hindi ba? and may mga Chinese din ok ang Wife #1, 2, 3 as long as one can afford financial support…hindi ba may mga Chinese na kahit may asawa sa China they still marry a Filipina for property purposes..Jewish culture also allows a man to divorce his wife…zng Catholic Church ang mahigpit sa bagay na ito..pero nakakalusot din
ang hindi ko maintindihan ano itong 10 year contract? you can change your spouse every decade?…mas maganda ata ang deal ng mga Muslims..basta pantay pantay lang ang mamanahin..kung may mamanahin..take the case of the Ampatuans…
how many husbands did Elizabeth Taylor have? Nakalimutan ko na,,sa dami…
Everybody has a wild side!
Nobody knows what transpired between Kris and the “other woman”, whether the former really has gone berserk as the other version alleged or as cool as a cucumber as her partner Boy claimed. Whatever, Kris has all the right to be mad; the only thing that seems to be not right is her confronting the other woman. The husband is the one at fault; if he is that faithful and righteous he can always avoid other women.
James maybe a good ball player, but it seems he is a two-or more-timer and that makes him a bad husband.
The reality is excellence and success in sports or wealth does not make a man. It’s the will and determination to be faithful, trustworthy and committed in a relationship and family that makes a man, not how much money he has in his bank book or how many points he scores in the game of basketball.
Ano pa maaasahan natin siyempre deny siya. Wala din naman doon sa pangyayari ang boy friend niyang bading si Boy
Abunda eh tapos sasabihin niyang kalmado si Kris. Hindi lang sa pinuntahan ni Kris ang bahay ng babae…sinugod niya. Mas naniniwala akong nagtaray si Kris doon sa selos. Normal naman sa isang tao ang magalit at magtaray. Kahit na si Sen. Mar Roxas minura pa nga si GMA sa rally. So, why should Kris deny it if she did it? Dahil ba pinagsabihan siya ni Noynoy at nakakasama ito sa kandidatura ni Noynoy? If you remember, Kris was once very emotional on nationwide TV crying and attacking Joey Marquez. Pati sakit sa babae ni Joey sinabi niya at pati daw siya nahawa. Ay naku, huwag magbulag-bugan ang mga Kris fans. Kung tutoo, aminin !
What do you say, should we all ask our Tongressmen to pass the 10-year renewable marriage para matapos na tong gulo na to? Hahaha!
Besides, did I hear that “the other woman” was asking for advice from James? Kelan naging saykayatrist si James?! Hay, batuhin man ako dito, if I were Kris, ilulublub ko pa sa putikan ang babaeng yong pag di nya tinigilan ang asawa ko hahaha
Anna, re #40.
Kris and Joey Marquez, former Parañaque mayor was never married. They just lived together.
sa Mexico daw madali kumuha ng divorce..madali din magpakasal…sa atin lang naman ang maraming chat chat sa pagaasawa…sa pagsasama..it’s Kris problem…and Noynoy has nothing to do with it..total marami nagsasabi na matatalo naman siya…
Kris should have done a-Elin-berserk, instead of chasing James with a golf club, dribbled the ball on his “dick”.
The ukay-ukay member taste her own medicine,how many of their kabaro shed tears when their partner flirt to somebody else.Nobody in this world can tell when your time would come.ALWAYS tink the golden rule.
putot is a visayan word for shorty…
Thanks, Rose.
Now, I shall call Gloria “putot” too. 🙂
ang hindi ko pa rin maintihan sa marriage on a contractual basis of ten years..if they have children in the ten years of marriage..paano yon..hatihati? one for you and one for me…malabo ata..kawawa ang mga bata..
Rose,
Renewable naman daw after 10 years kaya recycles ang labas ng mag-asawa, hahaha! Stupidong proposal.
hahahah… renewable, recycable, re-assessable, re-hasble, ano pa? Was that a genuine proposal? 🙂
ang hindi ko pa rin maintihan sa marriage on a contractual basis of ten years..if they have children in the ten years of marriage..paano yon..hatihati? one for you and one for me…malabo ata..kawawa ang mga bata..
Going back to the Medieval era.
kaya pala malaki ang advantage ng mga ampatuans..anim ang asawa, 40 ang mga anak..hawak nila ang buong Maquindanao..but will the ampatuan Sr. live to be 400 years like Adam or Abraham?
Marriage contract, renewable after ten years?
Ano ‘yun professional license? Passport?
Wala na talagang maisip na matino kung sino man ang walang utak na nakaisip nito.
1. she said she said ito. delicious to read but difficult to say who’s telling the truth. the girl admits she has a chemical imbalance and we all know what kris is like.
dagdag: laos na yang crying on a guy’s shoulder to get sympathy. bumenta na yan. we all know what the goal of that is.
2. marriage is not an ordinary contract. maraming social ramifications siya, most important of all is the effect on any offspring of the marriage.
3. there are 2 kinds of marriages
–civil
–church
if you get married in church though, the state will recognize it (the state recognizes the the priest as a valid soleminizing officer; and so long as it is between a competent man and and a woman who are 18 and above). but if you get married civilly only, the church does not recognize it. you have to get married in church.
this is unlike france which treats the two totally separate. if you want both you have to do both.
to completely dissolve a civil marriage/ civil aspects of a church marriage, you have to get a legal annulment. if you tried that pero di umubra, next recourse is legal separation para at least maasikaso ang division of assets bago ma-complicate ng new relationships, and monies and properties that may be acquired from the time of disaffection.
to dissolve a church marriage you have to go through rome. medyo magastos ito kasi dadaan ka pa ng rome at medyo matagal. i think caroline of monaco had to get a church annulment for her to get married to her 2nd hubby stefan casiraghi (who died in a speedboat accident).
the church will not recognize divorce but hey if you were only married civilly and got a divorce, you should be still be able to get married in church. i think nicole kidman is an example of this. she was married to and is divorced from tom cruise but was able to easily marry keith urban in a catholic church in australia.
4. the catholic church will never allow divorce to be valid in the phils even though legal annulment is virtually a divorce. (there’s a catch-all term there which i forget that anyone can use as a reason for invalidity of marriage.) they can easily withdraw their support from any politician who ventures that way. it’s just how politics works in the phils.
5. though the phils doesnt recognize divorces, it will recognize divorce by a foreign national, who was such at the time of marriage, of a filipino citizen. this is what happened to vilma and edu. edu was (?) an american citizen and divorced vilma. she was then able to marry ralph recto. (question is: is edu still an american citizen or is he dual? can a dual citizen run for vp? can he succeed the prez if need be if so elected? di ba kailangang natural born citizen ang presidente?)
bata pa si james,marami pang babae ang papatol sa kanya,sa atin pa.dapat magaling siyang guardia kasing galing ng mrs. ko.kapag sa babae iniisip ko pa lang alam na ng mrs. ko.pangarap kasi niya maging inbestigador.lahat ng binabasa niya tungkol sa murder,psycho killers,etc.lahat ng nababasa niya ina apply niya sa akin,jejeje.
dapat magaling na guardia si kris….
sa mexico may divorse,open sila sa sex.noong panahon na nasa mexico ako,nagkaroon ako ng girlfriend na pagpupunta kami ng motel pinagpapaalam ko pa sa nanay at ang nanay naman paaalalahanan ang anak niya huwag kakalimutan ang pilduras.ganyan sila ka open.legal din ang pokpokan.
sa spain,legal din ang pokpokan at may divorce.
sa italy,kung saan ang center of roman catholic faith ay nandoon,legal din ang pokpokan.may divorce pa!
sa Filipinas,bakit hindi puede ang mga ito?sa lahat atang bagay ay huli na tayo.
Walastik ka.
Patria adorada ka pa. ‘Yun pala ikaw si Patricio Adornado. Pleyboy na takusa at dapat na kasapi sa aming samahang BAGSIK.
He he he heeeh.
Ano, member ka na?
masha,
#5 issue re Edu citizenship is questionable then. If Edu divorced Vilma by virtue of his being a foreigner, why did the court pronounced him as a pinoy citizen? He might be holding a dual citizenship and use his foreign status to marry Vi. Napuntos mo ang mga questions. Edu can’t run as vice-president per our Constitution that says a vp must be a natural-born citizen. In case na matigok ang presidente, ang vp ang uupo sa trono, that’s it.
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Now I get it, Nicole Kidman was given a go by the Catholic church to marry Keith, but not Jennifer Lopez and Mark Anthony because both were married to their former spouses in Catholic rites.
Magulo na, paguguluhin pa ng 10 year recycable marriage. Talaga naman, walang maisip na matino.
MPR, very good candidate si patria na miembro ng Bagsik.
PatriaA, you are safe with them, I guarantee. hehehe!
this is unlike france which treats the two totally separate. if you want both you have to do both. — masha
A bit of clarification
In France, the only marriage that’s recognised officially by the state is a civil marriage. A religious wedding ceremony is just a plus but it’s just that, a ceremony and not recognised by the state as officially legal.
Also, an official Catholic Church (French) marriage can take place, i.e., French Catholic priest can perform rite, if proof of a civil marriage is presented; of course Catholic wedding ceremony may take place on the condition that one of the parties is a Catholic and only if the Catholic would be spouse or spouses Has/have not been married in under Catholic Church rites before.
Re Caroline de Monaco and Stefano Casiraghi — they were never married in the Catholic Church. News had it that they were working on the annulment of Caroline’s first marriage but Caseraghi died before it was granted (don’t know if it was granted at all). I don’t know too if Caroline’s 3rd marriage is done under Catholic rites.
Saan ba talaga ipinanganak si Edu? If he was born in Pinas and his US status was only acquired later he might have chosen to drop the later as he needed in Makati politics.
Even then, pwede ba yun sa vice-presidency?
More on Also, an official Catholic Church (French) marriage can take place, i.e., French Catholic priest can perform rite, if proof of a civil marriage is presented;
In other words, the Catholic Church in France respects the protocol with the State, that there is proof that a marriage is legal before a church ceremony is performed.
I don’t know too if Caroline’s 3rd marriage is done under Catholic rites.- Anna
Hindi yata, Anna. Last time I read about it the Vatican said NO like in the case of JLo.
MPRivera,mga alaala na lamang ang mga yon,Noong panahon na wala pang direction ang buhay ko.Sa ngayon very good husband na ako.Sorry lang hindi na ako puedeng sumali sa samahang bagsik ninyo dahil ang natitira ko pang kamandag linalaan ko na lang kay mrs.
Ah ganoon ba Chi?
Bakit sa Philippines madaling kumuha ng Church annulment?
Anna, I have no knowledge of any Catholic sanctioned marriages in Pinas annuled by the church.
Sharon’s annulment given by the church was because Gabby was previously married na raw (just don’t know if in Catholic rites, too) and therefore their church marriage was null and void from the beginning. I just read about it. Don’t know also if Sharon and Noted were married in the church.
What I know is that madaling kumuha ng legal annulment if the couple was married in civil rites.
patriaA, ang mga Bagsik members are dutiful husbands 🙂 .
Ah ok, thanks Chi.
What I still don’t understand is if a legal separation (by the courts/state, i.e., RP’s) entitles a couple to re-marry legally again, i.e., contract civil marriage again, and be recognised as legally valid/binding by the State.
I understand that an annulment by the court of a marriage is tantamount to giving license for the couple to go their separate ways and contract another marriage if they so wish inasmuch as a marriage annulment by the courts would be as if a marriage (civil) had never taken place — but a legal separation?
So which brings us back to divorce…
In as much as RP doesn’t have divorce laws (legal separation that allows for parties to go their separate ways and be free to contract marriage with another/other parties)how come we often read of people in RP news saying that one has been married 2 or 3 times… so how is that possible in a country that has no divorce laws?
kung totoo man po na nanugod si Ms. Kris, normal lamang iyon sa isang asawa at may karapatan siyang gawin iyon.
Bakasyon pa ba si atty sax? 🙂
Is there a legal provision that once granted a legal/civil annulment the ex-couple can marry again and again and again to each other or to another persons.
Mas lalong lumalabo, hehehe.
Anna, in Muslimlandia pwede. Si Loren sinta at Tony Leviste di ba? Pinas din yun, hehehe.
Question, how did Loren get out of her Muslim marriage, basta na lang ayaw na niya kay Tony at lumayas ng bahay? Hmmmm…
Oo pala… And what about Tony’s marriage to original wife? Was that invalidated? Annulled by courts? In other words, is his original wife free to contract a marriage with someone else?
Ang gulo…
Loren left Tony after she used and abused him (pati nga ako na-pacontribute ni Tony kay Loren’s 1st run for the senate and not only for a couple of hundred dollars 🙂
When Loren finally got everything from him and impoverished him, ayan linayasan (ng sigurado na siya na the Forbes Park home ay sa kanya — linayasan na niya).
(Nahiya nga ako sa original wife ni Tony but what could I do, si Tony ang nanghihingi para sa campaign funds ni Loren pero ngayon, no way, absolutely no way, maski isang euro, no way…)
“Depende sa Environment” si Loren, talaga as mb posted in his blog.
Nevahhhhhh Loren sinta!
Chi, gusto mo bang sabihin si Loren ay mapagsamantala? Ang alam ko sa kanya ngayon ay she is singing beautiful music together with Ed Angara, tama ba ito? That means tumitibok tibok pa rin ang puso niya, no? May lhandhi pa rin pala siya, ha-ha-ha!
patria adorada, may pagasa pang lumawak ang iyong kamandag at pwede pa ring maging kasapi ng bagsik. Tandaan, Enduranz w/ tongkat ali lang ang sagot diyan. Pinatuyan ito ng magasawang Giselle Sanchez at Emil. 😛
http://www.enduranz.ph/enduranz-testimonials.html
chi,
re: edu. di ko nga rin maintindihan kung ano status ni edu. baka natural born pinoy siya tapos nag-immigrate at naturalized american siya nung kinasal sila ni vilma at nung nag-divorce, tapos nagpa naturalize uli na filipino. wasnt he vice mayor of makati some time ago? pero i think local officials dont have to be naturalized pinoys.
Regarding Edu Manzano:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edu_Manzano
anna,
thanks for the clarifications re: french system and caroline.
re: legal separations in the phils.
the marriage subsists. you are still married pero puede na kayong maghatian ng propriedad at puede na kayong magka relationship with other people without the threat of being charged with adultery/concubinage hanging over your heads. pero di ka pa rin puedeng mag-asawa uli. para bang nililinis mo lang yung puede mong linisin.
re: multiple marriages in the phils. yung iba nagpa-pa annul ex princess punzalan who had her marriage to willie revillame annuled and is now married to a u.s. citizen. yung iba naman, di talaga valid yung kasal kasi kulang-kulang ang requirements ex lotlot and monching, one or both of them were underage when they got married, kaso buntis na nun si lotlot so tuloy ang kasal). yung iba naman kasal-kasalan lang para lang masabing may bond.
re: tony leviste and loren
ang pagkakaalam ko tony never did anything to dissolve his marriage to his first wife. he converted to islam instead so he can have multiple wives. it was all very civil daw in the beginning. they would even eat dinner altogether at times. weird.
thanks, mike. i’m sure gibo would clear this up anyway before he committed to edu pero may mga questions pa rin sa isip ko.
di ba sila yung class of people who had to choose one or the other under the 1973 consti? i could be wrong. kailangan ko lang i-research.
additional on multiple marriages by pinoys. yung iba naman kumukuha ng divorce abroad tapos magpapakasal abroad but the philippines doesnt recognize both. magulo yan when one of the spouses dies kasi mahirap mag-extricate ng properties and will be difficult to implement the rules of succession.
Thanks, masha… that clarifies what I’ve always suspected, eg., that some of my friends who were married (presumably licensed to marry by state, hence the only marriage that counts legally) but then legally separated, i.e., court decreed separation, and now living with other partners purporting that they are “married” are not really married in the legal sense.
Dapat talaga may divorce na sa Philippines… it’s a bit unfair to those who want to re-start/re-create a new life with their loved ones to be in limbo. As you say, magulo yan when one of the spouses dies kasi mahirap mag-extricate ng properties and will be difficult to implement the rules of succession.
After all, a multitude of filipinos, OFWs for instance, are living marital lives with people they are not married to because they can’t.
he converted to islam instead so he can have multiple wives. — masha
Aren’t Filipino Muslims covered by RP’s marriage laws? I mean, officially and legally 1 wife only? Perhaps, vis-a-vis RP laws, the other women (“wives”) are technically/legally called concubines but not wives?
Here’s a light note, courtesy of Reyna Elena’s FB page:
A soldier stationed in Afghanistan recently received a letter from his girlfriend back home. It read as follows:
Dear Ricky,
I can no longer continue our relationship. The distance between us is just too great. I must admit that I have cheated on you twice, since you’ve been gone, and it’s not fair to either of us.
I’m sorry. Please return the picture of me that I sent to you.
Love,
Becky…………..
The soldier, with hurt feelings, asked his fellow soldiers for any snapshots they could spare of their girlfriends, sisters or ex-girlfriends.
In addition to the picture of Becky, Ricky included all the other pictures of the pretty gals he had collected from his buddies.
There were 57 photos in that envelope…. along with this note:
Dear Becky,
I’m so sorry, but I can’t quite remember who the hell you are. Please take your picture from the pile, and send the rest back to me.
Take Care,
Ricky
masha, my concern is Edu’s VP run, sabagay wala naman syang panalo but because he’s vying for a position that requires one to be a natural-born citizen dapat klaruhin yan.
Alam ko ay local elected officials hanggang senador pwedeng hindi natural-born kaya si Edu ay naging vice-mayor ng Makati.
ang gulo gulo ng mga relationships sa atin..paano naging Muslim is loren loren sinta? hindi ba she too is a graduate of Assumption? Angara gara-niya talaga! at paano nakalusot ang citizenship ni Edu? hindi alam ni Gibo? maraming palusot..at kanyang kanyang palusot…
Grabe ang Emote ni Kristeta sa The Buzz ,umpisa pa lang ng show.
Hoy Kristeta, Bakit pag ikaw ang gumawa , hindi masama, bakit pag ginawa sayo masama?
Hindi pinag-uusapan kung kasal ka, pinakasalan ka, asawa mo na,ay puede mo nang gawin ang ginawa mo…Mahiya ka, sa tutoo lang ikaw ang sumira sa pangalan ng AQUINO..Pasalamat ka at pinakasalan kapa ni James (Dahil sa Pera?) at si James naman ano ba ang itsura niya..magaling lang siyang mag-basketball wala na, Tigilan mo nga ako ng paawa effect mo, at sa tutuo lang ayokong maging Presidente ang taong laging naka buka ang bunga-nga! (laging naka-nga-nga)
Sa sobrang galit ko kay GMA nag desisyon na ako sa iboboto ko. , for Pres. ay si ERAP at for Vice Pres. naman ay si Mar Roxas (sorry Binay)pero di ka pa hinog,…iyan ang magandang tandem…
anna,
re: muslim marriages
nag-convert rin ata si loren. so their marriage is covered by the shari’a courts and law. the state cedes governance of muslim marriages to the shari’a courts.
anna,
agree ako sa civil divorce. the state has an interest in a clean break of marriages when needed. that’s just catching up with reality and the extremely difficult situations couples get into when you let the bond subsist despite permanent disaffection and alienation of feelings. karambulan ang nangyayari.
rose,
totoo yan sinabi mo. puro na lang palusot. ang masam e yan ang nakikita at natutunan ng kabataan sa mga matatanda. nakakalungkot.
James Yap: Mayen is not my girlfriend
abs-cbnNEWS.com
Star cager James Yap, husband of host-actress Kris Aquino, has broken his silence on the “confrontation” between his wife and a female fan, Mayen Austria.
In an interview with ABS-CBN News, Yap spoke about the incident and defended his wife against her critics. He also stressed that Mayen is not his girlfriend.
“Hindi naman totoo ‘yon, hindi naman totoo. Siyempre lumalabas na naman ngayon na babae ko ‘yon. Hindi ko naman mabi-blame si Kris na mag-react ng ganoon. May karapatan naman si Kris na mag-react ng ganoon dahil asawa niya ako,” Yap said.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/node/85518
the state cedes governance of muslim marriages to the shari’a courts. — masha
Ah, ganoon ba. Which reminds me of the move by British Muslims to integrate sharia law in the UK laws. Sanamagan!
Hehehehh!
“Hindi naman totoo ‘yon, hindi naman totoo. Siyempre lumalabas na naman ngayon na babae ko ‘yon. Aquino’s husband.
Woe is me! Shame and scandal in the family, as the song goes.
In other families, members or couples try not to broadcast their marital woes publicly. I’m a bit surprised at why so much ink and air time are wasted over what should be a family affair.
OK, they are actors, entertainment personalities so they probably relish the attention — they also need to feed and entertain their fans. So discretion and self-respect can go hang.
Hihihih!
Kris just might serve as First Lady to her brother (inasmuch as he’s not married I believe) if he wins the presidency.
When that happens, I hope that for the sake of the republic, she will be less eskandalosa. Huwag ng paiyak iyak pa sa TV about her private life. She must observe a minimum of decorum…
The Kris-James relationship is doomed from the start. It’s only Kris who is trying to make it work. It won’t. Never.
James realized that he made a mistake is marrying Kris. He was infatuated; she was a celebrity. Granting that there was ‘love’ initially, it is now gone.
The only reason why the destruction of the marriage was being delayed was because James is embarrassed (nahihiyang hiwalayan si Kris). The death of Cory is a signal that James will slowly drift away from Kris because there’s no more love between them. At least on his part.
James looks like he’s got two noses, maybe his nose was the inspiration in making the Avatar movie, hehe…
You could all avoid the legalese of separations, divorces, and othe stuffs that comes with it; marry the right one and stick to it.