Philippine Navy reaction to the dismissal of charges against Lt. Raymundo and the “disrespect” charge:http://www.malaya.com.ph/02092010/news9.html
Romel informed me that the motion of his client, Marine First Lieutenant Artemio Raymundo’s motion for finding him not guilty was sustained on all serious charges.
“Light charge remained but maximum sentence already served,” he said.
Romel was referring to what we call the “Erap CD case”. This is a classic example of injustice in the military system. I’m glad that after almost three and a- half years, the military court has corrected the injustice. Although not yet fully.
Since September 26, 2006, Raymundo has been in detention at the Marines Brig accused of violations of Articles of War 96 (Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and Gentleman) ; 97 (Conduct Prejudicial to Good Order and Military Discipline) and 64 (Disrespect Towards Superior Officer).
What did Raymundo do to be charged with these offenses that would have resulted in his dishonorable dismissal from military service?
On Sept. 25, 2006, 1Lt. Artemio Raymundo Jr., was riding the LRT and he saw someone distributing DVDs of “Ang Mabuhay para sa Masa”, “The Original Sin” and “At All Costs”. Since it was for free, he got six copies and upon arriving at the Marine barracks in Fort Bonifacio, he shared the extra copies with his fellow soldiers.
“Ang Mabuhay para sa Masa” is a biopic of former President Estrada while “The Original Sin” and “At All Costs” are about Gloria Arroyo’s power grab in 2001 and the rigging of the 2004 elections.
Afraid of the truth, the Arroyo administration had banned the public showing of “Ang Mabuhay para sa Masa”. The documentary has not been declared illegal and therefore can be viewed privately.
For sharing the CDs with other soldiers, Raymundo was ordered detained by Maj. Danilo Luna. When he protested about his detention, that’s when Luna slapped him with “disrespect towards a superior officer.”
In the course of covering Raymundo’s trial, there have been hilarious incidents like when the Estrada biopic was shown in court, everybody, even the waiters in the next-door restaurant, were watching. One of the lawyers quipped, “Baka pagmatapos ito, lahat boboto na kay Erap.”
We were amused also when a sergeant who was a prosecution witness was asked why he accepted the CD shared by Raymundo. He answered, “Kasi libre.”
We had talked with a Marine officer who said that they knew from the very beginning that the case against Raymundo was “no case” at all but it was the order of then Brig. Gen. Jonathan Martir, the brigade commander of Combat Service and Support Brigade.
What Martir has against Raymundo, we do not know.
What’s difficult to accept in this case of Raymundo is that, even if the major charges have been dropped, the people who have committed injustice against him have been promoted. In fact, Martir’s promotion to major general was confirmed by the Commission on Appointments last week despite the fact that he still has a pending case before the Ombudsman for having gone on AWOL (absent without leave) for more than one year (477) days from July 1998 to January 2000.
A number of ordinary soldiers have been punished for going AWOL for a few days but Martir has been amply protected and rewarded. Equality is a strange word in the military.
Romel said they are appealing the denial of their motion to dismiss the charge “disrespect towards a superior officer” because Raymundo does not want a taint in his service record.
He has been unjustly imprisoned. That’s the least that the military can do to make up for the injustice done to him.
Ang pag distribute ng CD ni Erap ay isang “conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman” kaya he was jailed at naparusahan?..
..ang pag AWOL ni Martir na isang officer (never mind the gentleman) ay hindi conduct unbecoming of an officer? kaya siya ipopromote?
..sa Senate naman ang hindi pagsagot ni Money Bill sa mga tanong sa investigation..ano ito..is it not conduct unbecoming of a senator?
..ang pagbastos naman ni Dirty Old Man Pimentel..hindi ito conduct unbecoming of a senator? Never mind the gentleman..wala sa vocabulary niya ang being a gentleman…
..iba nga ang difinitions of terms sa adminstration ni putot kaya iba ang justice ng kanyang Supreme Judges ni putot (Court?)..kaya hindi natin masisi si Ping at pumunta sa Australia..kasi kung sa Pilipinas siya baka ma Ping! Ping! siya ni Martir…at hindi siya makaabot sa Crucifixion sa Pampanga sa Holy Week!
Diba ito yung may pagkakataong bumalik agad sa serbisyo kagaya ng marami sa Magdalo basta mag-sorry lang? Pero pinili niyang ilaban yung kaso, maski pa magtagal siya sa kulungan? Tulong nga, Ellen.
Lt Raymundo has not been dismissed from service. So, once the dismissal of the major charges is finalized, he can now be released from detention and report back to service.
But he still has this minor case of “disrespect of a superior superior officer” which he is contesting because he wants his record to be clean.
Now, granting that he is found guilty in the minor charge, which I understand is punishable by six months detention, sobra-sobra na yung punishment nya. He would be back in service but with a tainted record.
The case of the Magdalo is complicated. Yes, there were two groups, one was the Gambala/Maestrocampo group who apologized to Arroyo. They were found guilty of coup d’etat and other offenses. They were dismissed from the service.
They apologized to Arroyo and they were granted pardon.
They were released from detention and some are now working with the government.
Flashback to 2004. Remember there was also a time, before the split that they all apologized to GMA? That was for the release of more than 200 enlisted men (remember there were more than 300 of them in Oakwood). It was hard for the core group that included Ltsg Antonio Trillanes, III, James Layug, Capt. Gary Alejano etc. but they had to do it for the enlisted men.
Of course, the perverts in Malacañang, milked that dry to discredit the young officers.
Subsequent events showed Malacañang that they had not broken the spirit of Trillanes and and his group. They are now dismissed from the service and are facing charges in the civil courts.
Two weeks ago, the judge at the Makati RTC, dismissed the charge of mutiny re Manila Pen.
Hirap na hirap ang mga sundalong ito na ilaban ang kanilang malinis na service record samantalang si John Rat Martir ay AWOL ng taunan, heto at mako-confirm ang promotion ng walang nagrereklamo. Unfair!
Confirmed na si John Martir.He will be retiring on March 5 with the full benefits of a major general.
Confirmed na si John Martir.
He will now be elevated to the position of chief of security guards of the Enriles.
Martir’s confirmation is simply unbelievable. How on earth can his 2 star ranking be confirmed when in fact, he should have been court martialed and dismissed from service for having gone AWOL?
Is this the example that our gallant AFP and our non-politically motivated Congress want to set for junior members?
Military crime pays?
Ellen,
I can assure you that military friends of mine here at NATO were just gobsmacked when I said that in the Philippines they can promote a colonel back to back for going AWOL!
Mind you, such things happen all the time in the military… of a banana republic.
And then they incarcerate a poor junior officer for more than 3 years — THREE GODDAMN LONG YEARS — for a non military crime!
I just can’t believe it.
Military values don’t exist — an unknown quantity in the AFP.
How do you expect the AFP to win military victories against their enemies?
Abused and prostituted AFP is what you have!
The rights of this poor Marine officer were violated back to back. He was entitled to a quick trial but the AFP violated his most elementary military right.
This is no way to treat your officers and expect them to lead men into battle and die in service fighting their enemies.
This is the way to demoralise your military!
Anak ng baboy, confirm na kaagad si Martir! Iba na ang may padrino sa senado ng banana republic.
Bad eggs nga Maám Ellen…wala talagang masulingan ang Pinoy sa kabulukan ng rehime?
Winalanghiya talaga ang halos lahat ng institusyon sa ating bansa…pati AFP/PNP hierarchy pinaglaruan sa kanyang makalyong palad.
Damay tuloy ang mga honorable soldiers/kapulisan na totoong makabayan…sa mga KSP tulad ni Juan Rat diMartir.
Sige…pati ba naman itong pobreng si 1Lt. Raymundo e pinatulan ng dahil lamang sa libreng CD. Paano yan ganoon na lamang…after all, sorry ay MALI!
Kaawaawang Tenyente…napagtripan ng itlog na bugok!
Hustisyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Ibrado is largely to blame! He should have done something about this — the incarceration of a junior military officer for distributing a CD about the ex-president of the Republic is not a crime. Even my dog could have told Ibrado that.
As chief of staff, his duty was to oversee that sense of fairness and justice is instituted in the AFP.
He failed and failed miserably to perform his basic military obligation as chief of staff when he allowed the court martial of this poor officer to last MORE THAN THREE GODDAMN LONG YEARS!
Dapat batukan si Ibrado!
(Disrespect Towards Superior Officer).
Eh bakit daw disrespect? Minura ba iyong major na gago nitong Marine lieutenant? Hindi siguro sumaludo!
That major should not have given the order to the marine officer not to give away the CDs — especially if he knew. that the CD was not in any way a mutiny manual.
This is not a Leninist state! Besides, he shouldn’t have given an order that he believes would not have been obeyed! Siya ang gago. Dapat sampalin ng back to back iyang major na yan.
My advice to Lieutenant Raymundo: Barilin mo ang gagong major na yan when you both go into battle in Mindanao!
RE:Ang pag distribute ng CD ni Erap ay isang “conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman” kaya he was jailed at naparusahan?..
KOREK Igan Rose…bulok, bulok talaga ang sistemang umiiral sa Pinas?
Try hard ang mga lingkod-bulsa…at umaasa sa pagbabago ng ANO…WALA kasi nga puro tonto at peste.
Puro sila pahirap…paano titino ang takbo ng ating bansa, e nagkalat ang bad eggs sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno de bobo ng rehime.
But ang mga untouchable na kurap, magnanakaw at sinungaling na naglipana sa enchanted kingdom hayon nagpapasasa sa pera ng bayan…waldas dito, nakaw doon.
But ito pobreng Tinyente e naka-libre lamang CD sa bangketa…aba naman e pagtripang ikulong at kasuhan ng “conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman”?
Ang babaw ng rason…nakakainit talaga ng kukote!
Wala ka talagang aasahan sa mga gagong opisyales ng AFP/PNP…nanlulumo ako pag nakakabasa ako ng ganitong balita.
Nagbabalik-tanaw tuloy sa aking alaala ang kabayanihan ng aking sumalangit na Ama na isang WWII heroes…noong nabubuhay pa siya e ang laging kwento ang hirap ng kanilang inabot sa pakikibaka labang sa mga sakang na Hapones upang ipagtanggol ang bayan?
Isa rin siyang USAFFE tulad ng mga sundalong-kanin sa panahong ito…walang kredibilidad na sa halip maging maka-tao e asshole ng rehime.
GISING mga kapatid…papayag ba tayo na salaulain ng mga itlog na bugok ang Sandahang Lakas ng Pinas, NO WAY! Kung kinakailangan humawak tayo ng armas…so be it para maipagtanggol ang bayan sa bulok na sistema na umiiral sa kasalukuyan.
RE: My advice to Lieutenant Raymundo: Barilin mo ang gagong major na yan when you both go into battle in Mindanao!
Kahanga-hanga ka talaga Ms. Anna…bow, saludo talaga ako sa iyo…ang lakas ng dating, nakaka-IN talaga!
Wala talang tulak-kabigin…alimpungatan pa ako at bagong gising pag click ko ng aking laptop e mabungaran ko isang pobreng Tenyente popongay e napagtripan ng isang bad eggs na opisyales ng dahil lamang sa libreng CD at ito e natisod pa sa bangketa?
Mayroon bang libreng ganito sa gobyerno de bobo ng rehime…di ba WALA, but ang pagnakawan o waldasin ang pera ng bayan e libre sa kaso.
Hay naku, buhay nga naman!
Since September 26, 2006, Raymundo has been in detention at the Marines Brig accused of violations of Articles of War 96 (Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer and Gentleman)
Ellen,
Just curious: Articles of War 96 (Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer and Gentleman)Is that how the AFP printed the violation committed in the charge sheet?
Technically, it should simply be “Conduct Unbecoming an Officer” — without OF [an Officer]. (That’s how UK Armed Forces Articles of War manual prints it.)
Madali naman gawin iyan Balweg! Pag nasa heat of battle na sila sa Mindanao, puwedeng gawin iyan.
Won’t be the first time — maski tanungin mo si kumpareng Magno!
RE:…Dapat sampalin ng back to back iyang major na yan?
Mag-asawang sampal yon…YES, you’re the best Ms. Ana!
Major problem pa lang yan Ms. Anna, how about yong mga Garci Generals + Juan rat diMartir?
10-years tayong kandakuba ngayon sa hirap ng kalooban at di ba pati dito sa Ellenville e may pagkakataon na nagkakabalitak-takan tayo ng katwiran, but i’m happy after all kasi pare-pareho tayong naeducate sa mga nangyayari sa ating bansa.
Ang nakakasakit ng kalooban e gaanong kadami ang tulad ni Tenyente poponggay ang biktima ng mga misguided OpoSiryales ng AFP/PNP…kaya nga ang pangit ng imahe nila sa taong bayan?
Saan ka ba naman susuling nito na ang mamamayan e sa halip na sa militar o kapulisan humingi ng tulong e doon sila dudulog sa people’s court upang magsumbong.
Patas na hustisya…nasaan ka! Pakita ka naman…kasi turete na ang aming kukote sa kahahanap sa iyo?
Major problem pa lang yan Ms. Anna, how about yong mga Garci Generals + Juan rat diMartir?
Major solution required: Hang them from the highest lamppost!
Oo nga pala — “mag asawang sampal” is the term. Nakalimutan ko na ah! Thanks, Balweg! 🙂
Dapat hindi lang mag-asawang sampal, dapat pag sinampal, may horse shoe na kasama sa pagsampal! 🙂
Anna, my fault. It’s “Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and Gentleman.”
Thanks for the corection.
Re Ibrado. In fairness to him, the trial was ongoing when he assumed the position of Chief of staff. The fact that a decision has made before he retires (March 10) is a credit to him.
I think it was during the time of Esperon when the case was filed. I think Dolorfino then was the Marine commander.
RE: Won’t be the first time — maski tanungin mo si kumpareng Magno!
E dapat pala Ms. Anna, bago magretiro si Juan rat diMartir e isabak yan sa mga Abusayyaf ng matauhan…mahirap imulat sa katotohanan ang isang taong gising sa kagagahuan?
Isa ma din yang si Major Lunatic…para mamanyanita ng mga rebelde doon ng bumait naman, kasi nga major problem pa lang e asal-ANO na. Paano yan kung maging masabitan na yan ng Star apple at maging isa, dalawa, tatlo….
Maging isa rin yang asshole ng YES Maám…YES Sir ng mga lingkod-bulsa or narco-tradpols!
Another anomaly of Martir’s confirmation is that, he will be retiring on March 5. Military regulation says no one who has less than one year left in the service should be promoted.
Balweg:
bago magretiro si Juan rat diMartir e isabak yan sa mga Abusayyaf ng matauhan
“Isabak” means ipa-capture?, If so, Approve!!!!
So dapat mo ng gisingin ang mga Marines at pa-kidnap si Martir at itapon sa lair ng Abusayyaf. 🙂
Luna has also been promoted. I think he is now a Lt. Col.
Ellen,
I think Dolorfino then was the Marine commander.
Isn’t Dolorfino the guy that was held hostage by the MILF or MNLF (can’t remember which) and for whom the AFP was obliged to pay ransom (to offset the cost of his board and lodging daw?)
Iyan ang pinkagagong Marine commandant sa history ng Philippine Marines!
RE: Dapat hindi lang mag-asawang sampal, dapat pag sinampal, may horse shoe na kasama sa pagsampal!
Pinahagakgak mo naman ako ng tawa Ms. Anna, ikaw talaga…yan ang gusto ko sa iyo e ang lakas ng sense of humor mo ah.
Nawala tuloy ang ginaw ko kasi ang lamig dito eh…
Parang sinabi mo pa na dapat e kinabayo yan ng isang damakmak na sampal upang matauhan…TAMA ka ng makabawi naman si Tenyente Poponggay kasi nga e ilan taon na nga ba itong pobre na naghihimas ng rehas na bakal?
Luna promoted too? The guy gave an order that he knew wouldn’t be obeyed or cannot be obeyed and was promoted?
That is contrary to the code of military officership — officers must ensure that the order they give can or must be obeyed — otherwise, mustn’t do it (at least in peace time). For being a 3rd rate officer, he should have been demoted, not promoted!
Ellen,
Military regulation says no one who has less than one year left in the service should be promoted.
Not sure — I might be gravely mistaken — if the regulation applies only to major service command promotions, i.e., CG PA, CG PAF and/or FOIC, PN.
Re #30, yes, Same Maj. Gen. Dolorfino
RE: Luna has also been promoted. I think he is now a Lt. Col.
Yes, you’re the Best from the Best sa hanay ng mamamahayag Maám Ellen…ang dami naming natututuhan sa Ellenville.
Imagine, di na pala major problem itong si Lunatic…kundi nadagdagan muli ng bigat yong nakasabit sa balikat. Beware, kasi nga the more na bumibigat yang dikorasyon sa kanyang balikat e ang hirap niya ngayong espilengin.
Buti kulong lang sa rehas na bakal ang inabot ni Tenyente Poponggay…next time around at pagnakalibre siya ng CD sa bangketa e baka 10ft. below the ground ang abutin niya kay Kolokoynel Lunatic.
Re Ibrado. In fairness to him, the trial was ongoing when he assumed the position of Chief of staff. The fact that a decision has made before he retires (March 10) is a credit to him.
Is that so? But when did he assume the position?
For such a “misdemeanour”, ordinarily, court martial should have been held within 3 months after recommendation for trial and trial over in less than 6 months at the very most. So, if Ibrado assumed his post a year ago, this should have been fast-tracked long ago under his leadership if he was serious.
I’m sorry but I feel that he was remiss about this case especially if he got to the post last year.
As CSAFP, he could have given the order to fast track the trial in 7 days after all it’s been going on for a couple of years before he became CSAFP years!
He should have given the order, “Find him guilty in one week 1 week or release him, if not you all get the sack!” (Somethinng like that..)
Ellen
Re: “Find him guilty in one week 1 week or release him, if not you all get the sack!”
I’m simply repeating what I’ve heard about major service commanders (not chief of armed forces pa yan) reaction in the UK Armed Forces in cases of this sort.
(Of course the military courts — much like the judiciary — in UK armed forces are independent and usually cannot be dictated upon but it really is up to the major service commander to set the pace.)
Anna/Mam Ellen:
Ang pagkakaalam ko e promoted na si Martir to 2 star ng matagal na so di na sya covered ng regulations na yan. Iba yung process ng confirmation. He can actually wear 2 stars even if nof confirmed which he did. The only effect is, di tatakbo ang time in grade mo sa present rank kung di ka confirmed. Disadvantage sa yo yan pag bata ka pa at vying for higher positions kasi di ka ma promote to LT General unless confirmed yung MGEN mo. Kung di naconfirmed si Martir at inabutan sya ng retitrement nya, balik sya sa BGEN. However, MGEN pa rin pension nya. Pero dahil confirmed sya, LT GEN pension nya. Magulo ba? Swerte ng switik na yan! Grrrrr. . . .
Henry,
Is that right? Si loco is in fact a lt gen now?
Go AWOL and you get promoted 3 ranks? Shit a brick!
Pareho ni drunkard “VAdm” Madamba (Class 62). He was rear admiral but was promoted to 3 stars a few months before his retirement and was awaiting confirmation — he was so proud of his 3 stars, fortunately he wasn’t confirmed! Hah!
And the guy who filed objections after objections to his being confirmed at CA then was Sen Freddie Webb! Heh!
Anna:
He is still a MGEN. What i mean is, if he retires on March 5, he gets to receive the pension and other benefits of a LT GEN because he was confirmed as MGEN. Retirement benefits are always one rank higher.
Thanks, Henry!
Geez, going AWOL does get one around, doesn’t it? Better than buying a lottery ticket. He gets, what, some 4 or 5 million pesos in pension as LtGen?
Ooops, not as LtGen but ltgen’s pension.
Noon pa nakita ko na ang maling sistema, dyan sa ating military protocols ( panahon noon ng mga Crisology_Singson ) matindi ang hidwaan..isang halimabawa lamang ito,…saka kailangan ” kissing the ass ” paitaas,.hindi yong ka-alaman mo sa military at tunay na sundalo sa mga Taong dapat ipagtangol, na ayon sa batas, etc…kaya sa halip na ituloy ko noon ang CAD ( advance rotc-graduate ko, may mga kaklase din akung tatlo naging heneral, at junior officer ko naging, almost top 3-sa AFP ), nag concentrate na lang akung mag-trabaho sa abroad, ibat-ibang bansa…nakita ko ang listahan, noon dadalhin ako sa Mindanao. By God’s grace, nauna ang call ko sa abroad, kaysa sa assignment sa CAD, kaya minabuti ko nang paglingkuran ang bansang TAkbuhan, at kanlungan ng Pilipinas. Siguro, baka natulad ako sa grupo nila na “KKK” ala, Andres Bonifacio ideals..yong mga vision ko noon, nangyayari..di mo alam kung kanino ka nagli-lingkod ( sa, by “assing-your boos” o sa Bayan ).
Minsan sabi ko, ano ba talaga ang itinuturo sa PMA ???..kasi maraming ibidensya na lumabas…mula noon, hanngang ngayon..katulad nitong Lt Raymundo, Gen. Danny Lim, Senator-Trillanes, Magdalo, at iba pa ( sundalong naging tau-tauhan ng mga politiko, para lamang magkaroon ng promotions )…Isang analysis lamang po..na sana magkaroon ng tunay na “pagbabago sa atin, di lang governance, kasama na ang AFP-etc )… Sana tingnan din ng pansin ito sa bagong panguluhan sa Mayo-2010-eleksyon..sana ang automated-election ay successful, para naman tumakbo nang mainam-malinis-patas ang resulta ng eleksyon…pag-may ” hello-Garci” na naman, wala na tayong pag-asa pang hihintayin…baka maging “human-volcanic-eruption ” mangyari dyan…manalig palagi tayo sa Diyos sa kalutasan ng mga problema sa Pilipinas..
Sana makalaya na si Lt. Raymundo. Hindi naman masama ang ginawa niya dahilan lamang sa paniniwala.
As I’ve said before, wish those marines who are/were aghast about Martir’s instant promotion should all go awol. Maybe it’s an easy way for promotion for all of them. Only in da Pilipins and this AFP is nothing but the laughing stock of the world over, a poster child of military comedy at best.
Wag na kayong mainis pa dito kay Ms. Martir …. dapat ang murahin niyo ay yong mga taong nasa CA na nag-approve sa promotion niya. Ganyan kabulok ang sistema ng ating Gobyerno.
I’m with tru blue. AWOL din kayo, lahat kayo!
Ako nga matagal nang gustong mag-AWOL sa pagka-Pilipino at bumalik na sa lahi ni Hitler. O ni Haring Felipe.
Ay naku Tongue, sinabi mo pa! Baka tuluyan ng mag-alsa balutan ang aking half kapag nanalo si Villar.
Korek, AWOL na lang lahat kayo citing The Rat’s case as defense o kaya take Anna’s advice na lang. Bulok na AFP ni Gloria Arroyo!
Kaya yung mga mahilig sa libre, mag-ingat kayo.
Walang libreng tanghalian!
tama..mag AWOL na kayong lahat para ma ipromote kayo kaagad agad..maitanong ko puede bang mag sick call silang lahat? o kaya puede ba silang magstrike? kasi kung wala silang gagawin at tatanggapin lang nila quietly ang patakaran na ito..they are not serving the country…hindi ba ang mga sundalo ay dapat mag serve para sa bayan? at ang mga officer should lead?..Mr. Ibrado mag pakatunay kang officer and ipakita mo ang tunay na conduct becoming of an officer..kung hindi mo magawa ito..umuwi ka na sa Antique at mamundok sa binukid kang Sn. Remigio..it maynot be 100% at your fault but you can do something to serve well..as the Chief of Staff..nakakahiya ka..you should be recomended for the Hall of Shame…kung may award for Bugal (Pride) of Antique..dapat mayroon ding Hall of Shame…
corr..it may not be 100% your fault…and btw kung hindi mo alam ang papunta sa Sn. Remigio I will tell you how..at kung totoo marami ang mga sith No Permanent Addresses doon..
that is where you should be…fight them as a military officer or join them..
Singling out the AFP chief in Raymundo’s case is not fair. While it’s true that this has dragged on for 3 years already and surely, this is just no ordinary case, the General Court Martial of the Navy/Marines has the jurisdiction over Raymundo and not the AFP Chief. Anna is correct that Ibrado should have given the FOIC, PN a deadline to wrap this up but I guess, Ibrado is no micro-manager. Toto Golez should bawl out the President of the GCM trying Raymundo.
henry: I agree it may not be fair but was/is there fairness sa military? I wonder..
sa mga tunay na sundalo sa atin..malabo ang tunay na military justice…so just tiis..yours is not to reason why, yours is but to do and die..
Rose:
Di naman siguro lahat unfair. I have had my share of ups and down while in the service but I can assure you, it was truly a rewarding experience, not in terms of monetary benefits, but on the over-all development it afforded me as a soldier. But I also agree with you and the bloggers here that for the past years since Glue was the Commander in-Cheat, the AFP’s image took a beating, what with the shenanigans of the top dogs identified with her. But then again, I would say that these rotten apples are in the minority and the good ones in the service still have the best interest of the people in their hearts and minds. While this may be debatable to you and the others here, I’m sorry but I still believe in the AFP as an institution. In due time, all the shenanigans of Esperon, et al will be unearthed and hopefully, we can have closure on these cases in the next administration.
Henry: There is nothing bad with AFP as an institution but it is those rotten ones you say that is ruining it..hindi ba may kasabihan tayo that we should not mix a rotten apple with the good ones or they will all be rotten..Sa totoo lang iisa lang ang PMAer ang nakilala ko sa tanang buhay ko and he was good and a true soldier of his country… retired na seguro kung hindi patay na. And two of my friends’ fathers were Chief of Staff. I taught at St. Maris and I had students whose parents were in the military..but hindi naman ganyan… somewhere along the way..may dumaan na catastrophe (plague?) at hanggang ngayon ay nandiyan pa I am talking of 1969 to now…did we progress? hindi ata!ang ibang countries umaasenso tayo naman ay naging retarded..nakakalungkot! ano kaya ang mangyari sa May 2010? hindi ba puedeng itapon yong mga rotten apples na nasa AFP?
kaya ako concern sa nangyayari ngayon sa atin kasi ko nang umuwi!
Victor Reyes’ report on the Raymundo case:
Marines officer cleared on Erap bio-pic charge
Malaya
A military tribunal has dismissed two of three charges filed against a Marines lieutenant who allegedly circulated copies of “Ang Mabuhay para sa Masa” compact discs depicting the life of former President Joseph Estrada.
First Lt. Artemio Raymundo was charged in 2006 with violating Articles of War 96 (conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman), 97 (conduct prejudicial to good order and military discipline) and 64 (disrespect for a superior officer).
Officials earlier said Raymundo turned unruly after his superiors ordered him to stop distributing the CDs which had been rated “X” by the Movie and Television Regulatory and Classification Board.
He defied the order and was later detained and charged.
The military banned the distribution of the video CD among its officers because there was a “political color” to it.
The first two charges were dropped Friday during the court proceedings, said Navy spokesman Lt. Col. Edgard Arevalo.
“His lawyer filed a motion to declare Raymundo not guilty with respect to Articles of War 96 and 97 and the court granted the motion,” he said.
The court is headed by Commodore Jose Luis Alano, chief of the Naval Forces Northern Luzon.
Arevalo could not say specifically what prompted the court to dismiss the two charges.
On Article 64, Arevalo said: “The defense has to prove its case, meaning there is a prima facie evidence to show that he might be guilty, that’s why there has to be hearing, further hearing…It’s the turn of the defense to present their evidence.” – Victor Reyes
justice delay is justice denied. wala talagang hustisya. maski sa pnp ganyan din ang kalakaran kaya ang kapulisan sunod-sunuran lang kahit illegal ang utos ng amo kaya nga nangyari ang maguindanao massacre dahil hindi puedeng kumontra ang mga ugok.
Officials earlier said Raymundo turned unruly
What the heck does that mean? Nagsayaw si Raymundo or stompped his feet or maybe stuck his tongue out?
Anyway, however you look at this — the Navy committed a gross injustice by letting this idiotic case run for more than 3 years!
If this is the way the Navy does things, it’s no wonder mutiny leaders come from Navy. Why, even my dog would rebel at the rate things are handled in the Navy.
No sea dog in the Navy. All sea cats! Meooooow!
The military banned the distribution of the video CD among its officers because there was a “political color” to it.
Political colour? What political colour? Red, white and blue?
What’s wrong with those colours?
What a bloody lame excuse! This must be the most hilarious charge I’ve ever heard if you consider that the policy paraphernalia found in the stacks and stacks of materials in the AFP are all politically coloured, whether pro-US, anti-Mao Tse Tung, pro-Australia… Shit! They must be kidding!
The military banned the distribution… Did the AFP issue — signed by the AFP chief — a formal order prior to the distribution?
Not long ago, I distributed a lot of printed paraphernalia to the Navy that were definitely politically coloured — a jab at former USSR sourced equipment that they were looking into; particularly ships that came from East Germany.
Hah! Political colours! My foot! Everything is political — military politics is a sort of political colour. If so, they should arrest a lot of would be senior officers who definitely engage in sports involving military politics aka militics (padrinos here, padrinos there, padrinos everywhere from all political parties!)
What boneheads! Batukan si Arevalo!
“The defense has to prove its case, meaning there is a prima facie evidence to show that he might be guilty, that’s why there has to be hearing, further hearing…It’s the turn of the defense to present their evidence.” — Arevalo
What a bonehead! They had more than 3 years to determine whether the man had committed a military violation and he is still saying “there is a prima facie evidence to show that he might be guilty?” Might?
What the fuck were they doing during the almost 2,000 days that God made for them to determine whether the man had been guilty of a violation/s or not? Where they holding dance parties featuring Martir in girlie dress?
Batukan si Arevalo! Useless! Waste of precious govt rations!
No wonder the military couldn’t catch the rag tag handful of Abu Sayyaff bandits.
They’re bloody sloooooooow!
I don’t get it…There are more pressing issues like smuggling (big time petroleum ones), drug trafficking in the high seas, terrorists treating our shores like tourist spots, and these guys are throwing everything 9including the kitchen sink) at this poor guy who just had an Erap CD, one you can get at 50Php in the bangketas…
…and the content is all over the internet (YouTube)…Is this someone’s idea of a joke? This definitely someone’s “wow mali” and these guys are trying to save face…why not admit that it was a wrong move in the first place, apologize to the guy and his family and let him be?
Agree with you, Jug.
This “disrespect” this is more of face saving. They are more concerned about it than the injustice done to the guy.
Tama si Anna.
Any commander at any level in the AFP, upon assumption of commad should first look after the morale and welfare of his men so that they will be effective in their respective duties, kasama na dito ang madaliang pagdinig sa mga kasong kinasasangkutan (kung meron man) upang malaman kung may dapat ngang panagutan ang isang isinakdal.
How can you expect a 100% effectiveness of troops kung meron silang kasamahan na alam nilang walang kasalanan subalit napakatagal nang nagdurusa gayung walang malinaw na sakdal?
Ilang taon na bang nakakulong ang Oakwood mutineers? Sina MGen Miranda at BGen Lim? Col querubin? And other senior and junior officers? Itong si Lt Raymundo na maliwanag na isang panggigipit at kapritso lamang ni Major Luna?
‘Yung mga dishonorably discharged EP na walang nakuhang dapat na tanggaping suweldo?
Ilang CS, AFP na ba ang humawak sa armed forces matapos magretiro ang supot na berdugong duwag naman na si EsPWEron bago itong si Gen Ibrado?
Tapos, pumapalakpak tayo sa tuwa dahil sabi natin iba siya sa iba?
Ewan ko kung ano nga tayo!
Ang mga CA,at iba pang namumuno sa pamahalaan,parang mga itlog ng itik/pato,na hindi naging balot o sisiw upang maging kapakikinabang sa lipunan.Iyan ay tawag ng taga Pateros ay Abnoy,subalit dahil sa panghihinayang itoy iniluluto at maging pambawi ng puhunan.Ganyan ang sistema ng pamahalaan ng PINAS,Di nakakapagtaka imbis na pasulong sa pagunlad ay paurong ang ang kinabukasan,dahil sa dami ng ABNOY na ating kababayan.
Kumandir Pader Balweg,
Again, muli ay sasabihin ko uli dito sa panibagong pagkakataon na ‘yang si Eltikol Limatik ay madaling gawing casualty sa encounter. Anyone in the military service, kahit officer or EM na na-assigned na sa field ay alam ‘yan. Kahit sabihin pang kuwintas ng estrelya ang nasa balikat, kung alam na sobrang abusado’t asal hayup ay hindi pinaliligtas. Sa unang bugso ng putukan, lalo’t ang tropa ang naka-ambush position, 99.99% kung merong ganyan kasama sa operating troops, ‘yan kaagad ang unang tutumba.
Kung minsan nga kahit sa loob ng detachment, puwedeng gawin at palabasing hinaras at nagkaroon ng firefight. Kahit kailan ay hindi naman nagkaroon ng autopsy kung ano’ng klaseng bala ang tumama at saan tinamaan. Ang importante lang ay merong after encounter report na madali lang gawin kahit walang actual encounter.
Diyan tayo expert noon, eh. Hindi n’yo naitatanong, dati tayong operations specialist noong araw. Kaya ako’y hindi basta naniniwala sa mga report na ‘yan. Kahit military o police report ‘yan.
He he he he.
Retirement benefits are always one rank higher. – henry90
Kasuwerte naman ni Joanna. Daming “mhin” ang mahahala sa malaking pension niya.
Magsasawa na siya sa pagsi-sing-along niyan.
Bruhang ‘yan! Sinusuwerte talaga!
Magko-cross legs na lang sya wala na kasing problema sa pera.
si martir ba ay ” my gal so very” din? whst s gal! and itong CD nni Erap ay Xrated? mas cclorful pa ba sa CD ni Hayden? saan makabili?