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Lim, Trillanes to remain in jail despite bail—AFP

From GMA News TV:

Senator Antonio Trillanes IV and senatorial aspirant former Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim will remain in jail despite being allowed by a Makati court to post bail on a rebellion charge, the military said on Wednesday.

“The group of Senator Trillanes cannot be released until after the military has agreed already, because they are still facing general court martial,” said Armed Forces spokesman Lt. Col. Romeo Brawner Jr.

He said the two have pending cases before the military tribunal in connection with alleged attempts to overthrow the Arroyo government.

“Under the military law, there is no such thing as bail,” Brawner said.


Brawner made the statement after the Makati Regional Trial Court Branch 150 granted the plea for bail of Trillanes, Lim and 16 other soldiers. The bail was set for P200,000 each.

Brawner said the military is securing a copy of the court decision for study and “to determine the circumstances, the basis” why Trillanes and Lim were allowed to post bail.

Trillanes, a former Navy officer, is facing conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman before a military tribunal for his participation in the July 27, 2003 Oakwood Mutiny. He is also charged with coup d’etat before a Makati court for the same reason.

On the other hand, Lim and 17 other Army and Marine officers remain charged with violation of several Articles of War, including mutiny, before a general court martial for the alleged plot to overthrow the Arroyo government in February 2006.

He is also facing court martial for the so-called Manila Peninsula siege in November 2007.

Trillanes also took part in the Manila Peninsula siege but was not charged before the military tribunal as he was already a civilian then. He was deemed separated from the military when he ran for senator in the 2007 elections.

Government prosecutors, meanwhile, will contest the Makati court’s decision, according to Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita. “Our government prosecutor definitely will set their motion for reconsideration in motion,” he said at a press briefing in Malacañang.

Both Lim and Trillanes are detained in Camp Crame, the main headquarters of the Philippine National Police (PNP). – with Aie Balagtas See/KBK, GMANews.TV

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49 Comments

  1. pranning pranning

    18 February 2010

    At least they were given reprieve to be with their family.

    On the otehr hand, this is a bit off-topic:

    Why is it Noynoy and Money Villarroyo are the only ones planning a “one-on-one” debate, do they think they are the only on (or two) who thinks they are the only presidential candidates??? kayong 2 lang ba ang magaling?

    Do not, repeat do not marginalized other candidates, that is already discrimination!!! the both of you are showing your true colors “DISCRIMINATION”. Ngayon pa lang pinakikita na ninyo ang pagiging “MAKAPILI” ninyo!!!why not ask for a day-long debate involving all candidates, not only the two of you. Ang kapal ng mukha nyo. Bakit sigurado na ba kayong 2 lang ang naglalaban sa pag ka presidente?? ang kapal ng mukha nyo!!!!! NANYO!!!!!

    Noynoy and Money Villarroyo are both elitist pretending to be pr0-masa. Take a look at those people supporting them, they belong to the so called “civil society???” ang kapal ng mukha nyo!!!! but look at their backgrounds, they are all elitist.

    prans

  2. chi chi

    Matatapos at lalayas na lang ang pekeng presidente at mga amuyong hindi pa magpakatino.

    Sobra-sobra nang haba ng taon ang pinagdusahan ng Magdalo, pakawalan na ninyo sila mga ungas sa EK!

    Ang gulo-gulo ng mga Pidalista sa AFP!

  3. bobong bobong

    May I ask the nigger Spokesman, among all the officers that took part in the Oakwood Mutiny, why only Sen. Trillanes was not set free or allowed to post bail? Ano bang ikinatakot ng AFP? Natakot ba kayo sa taong nagsasabi lamang ng pawang KATOTOHANAN?

    Being a PMAyer, Mr Nigger ano ba ang natotonan mo sa apat na taong pag-aaral mo sa academy? Nalimutan mo na ba na kailangan ninyong maninindigan para sa KATOTOHANAN? Have you been in amnesia state?

    Noon tinatawanan nyo lang ang kandidatura ni Trillanes. Ngunit sino ang napahiya sa resulta ng halalan noong 2007? Ilang milyon kaming nananiwala na si Trillanes ang nagsasabi nga totoo at kayong mga alipores ni PANDAK ang nagtatagong lumabas ang katotohanan.

    Ngayon, takot ba kayong maulit ang pangyayari sa kandidatura ni Brig. Gen. Danny Lim? I’m sure, Mr. Danny Lim will emerge as victorious come this national election.

    Alam mo Mr. Brawner, darating din ang araw ninyo. Maniningil din ang taong bayan sa lahat ng mga ALIPORES NG PANDAK, KASAMA NA SIYA.

  4. perl perl

    pranning – February 18, 2010 8:52 am
    ————————————–
    Hahaha, natawa naman ako sa post mo. Easy lang.. parang boxing yang debate.. hindi pwde maglaban more than 2 players sa 1 ring… ang setup ng debate ay hindi naman parehas ng mga presidentiable forum na kung saan ang mga audience ang nagtatanong at may limited time ang mga presidentiables sumagot… debate igan… paggandahan ng argument… palitan ng salita…

    I’m not sure kung kanino kandidato ka panig. pero ayaw mo non.. kung sino manalo kay Noynoy and villar… sya lalabanan sa manok mo…

  5. balweg balweg

    RE: Natakot ba kayo sa taong nagsasabi lamang ng pawang KATOTOHANAN?

    KOREK Igan Bobong, kung nasa katinuan ng kukote ang liderato ng AFP nawa sila ang protektor at pag-asa ng bayan at mga Pinoy na nagmamalasakit at nagmamahal sa Sambayanan Pinoy.

    Kaya di natin pwedeng iaasa ang kapalaran ng ating bansa sa mga bad eggs sa liderato ng AFP lalo na sa kanilang Kumander-in-thief?

    Walang aasahang paggalang at suporta ang mga kumag na yan sa taong bayan…hangga’t di sila nagpapakatotoo sa kanilang sarili.

    Sila ang dapat kasuhan ng treason, conspiracy, rebellion sa pagsuporta sa mga traydor at sinungaling na pasimuno ng EDSA DOS con Hello Garci.

    Kung magiging sunud-sunuran ang AFP sa mga bad eggs nilang Generals problem…buti pa magtanim na lang sila ng kamote at di sila kailangan ng bayan.

    Bakit nila isinasaksak ang kanilang sarili sa Sandatahang Lakas e row 4 naman ang takbo ng kukote at sila ang berdugo.

    Ipaliwanag nila ang extrajudicial killings…pag ang Pinoy e nagpahayag ng saloobin at nagsalita ng kotra sa gobyerno de bobo ng rehime, ngayon kakasuhan na kesyo Komunista daw?

    Inang natin…e nasa enchanted kingdom ang mga tulisan at mangdarambong, dapat sila ang dakpin at manyanitahin para matauhan sa kanilang katorpehan.

  6. balweg balweg

    RE: Matatapos at lalayas na lang ang pekeng presidente at mga amuyong hindi pa magpakatino?

    KOREK Igan Chi, dapat sa kanila e gulpe-de-gulat ng mga tauhan…sobra kasi sa pansin kaya puro pasaway.

    Dapat muling isilang ang isang rebolusyunaryong kilusan na kakatawan sa Masang Pilipino upang maging people’s court na siyang lilitis sa mga bad eggs ng gobyerno de bobo ng bawat rehime.

    Wala kasi tayong aasahan sa liderato ng AFP…pag nagpahayag ka ng saloobin o magasalita ka ng kotra e ang kapalit torture, rehas na bakat and/or 10ft. below the ground?

    Bakit di nila arestuhin ang mga traydor, sinungaling, magnanakaw sa kanilang hanay at sa lahat ng sangay ng EK. Ang kinakaya nila yaong mga pobreng Pinoy na di makabasag-pinggan.

    Ang daming lingkod-bulsa na tirador sa lipunan at mayroon pa yang private armies…pero ano ang kalakaran, nagbubulagbulagan sila.

    Paano titino ang bansa kung selective sila sa pagpapatupad ng peace & order at kung magsiasta e mga untouchable ko mo mga armado sila.

    Hay naku buhay…saan tayo patutungo nito!

  7. perl perl

    OT:
    Villar on El Shaddai’s endorsement: No need for formality
    http://www.gmanews.tv/story/184176/villar-on-el-shaddais-endorsement-no-need-for-formality
    “Presidential candidate Sen. Manuel Villar Jr. (Nacionalista Party) on Wednesday said a formal endorsement from the religious group El Shaddai is unnecessary, noting that the group’s recent actions were enough to convince him of its support.”
    ————————————————
    Pakapalan na talga ng mukha, hindi na nahiyang ipahalata na nagkakandarapa sa paghingi ng endorsement from El Shaddai…

  8. perl perl

    OT:
    Bolante’s partymates support Villar-Legarda tandem
    http://www.gmanews.tv/story/184177/bolantes-partymates-support-villar-legarda-tandem
    A local party pushing for the gubernatorial candidacy of former agriculture undersecretary Jocelyn ‘Jocjoc’ Bolante on Wednesday expressed support for the presidential and vice-presidential bids of Senators Manuel Villar Jr. and Loren Legarda, respectively.
    ————————————————
    Very Good! Ipagpatuloy nyo yan. Patunayan nyo sa buong Pilipinas kung ano ang talgang kulay ni Villarroyo

  9. gusa77 gusa77

    Everything expected under the sun,sabi nga talagang ganyan ang buhay,alignment of MANDAs and MANDUs,{mandarambong & madurugas} talagang inaasahan na iyan.Di ba ang merging ng mga partido.MGA STRONG clans merges TOTALLY WITH groups, nakakatawa,di ba pare-parehong mga pahirap sa sambayanan ang lahat ng iyan.just look at those hands holding bags with 500k,the manda’s and mandu’s are raking bilyones from the poor JOHNNY alkansiya,lahat sila ay nagtatawanan,dahil sa pang-uulol sa sa mga pobreng botante.

  10. Military hasn’t finished trial of Trillanes and colleagues for Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and Gentleman after so many years detaining the group.

    If military had been efficient and really wanted justice served, they should’ve tried officers; if found guilty of said military violation, officers would serve sentence (unless military was planning to sentence them to 20 years of hard labour), then discharged from service — all should be over and done with. They should be walking free today.

    (No need to discharge Trillanes — wasn’t he considered automatically resigned when he ran for the Senate?)

    5 – 7 years in detention without trial is a lot of time served in prison.

    So, even if you consider govt’s case against them under trial in civil courts, with the bail being granted, they should already be out of detention.

    In other words, military has been remiss all throughout. And I thought it’s the civil courts that would be slower than military justice/courts.

  11. MPRivera MPRivera

    Tsk. tsk. tsk. tsk.

    Talaga naman. Double standard na walanghiyang pamunuan. Walang maaasahan kundi kasinungalingan.

    Mga takot kasi sa kanilang sariling multo kaya hindi kayang harapin ang katotohanan ng kanilang mga KABULUKAN!

    Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok!

    Nangangamoy!

    Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok! Bulok!

  12. chi chi

    Teka, teka muna. Bakit wala akong naririnig sa panig ng Noynoy-Mar tungkol sa alyansa nila sa Magdalo?

    Pababayaan lang ba ng LP ang libo-libong taga-sunod ng Magdalo, including me?

    If I remember it right, nagpahimig na si Senator Trillanes noon ng suporta sa tambalang Noynoy-Mar. Bakit walang sagot yata ang LP party?

    Isang malaking pagkakamali kay Noynoy at Mar na hindi sila makipag-alyansa kina Senator Trillanes. Why? Nalimutan ba nila na bago ang kanilang ipinagsisigawang GOOD vs. EVIL ay nauna na ang Magdalo na umaksyon sa Oakwood at Manila Pen para kalabanin ang evil sa Malacanang?

    In short, ang nagsimula ng Good vs. Evil ay ang Magdalo, hindi ang LP!

    Sige kayo, kapag natalo ang Noynoy-Mar ay bahala kayo sa buhay ninyo. Alalahanin ninyo na tatlong buwan pa at pwedeng madismaya ang maraming Magdalo supporters na inisyal na sumusuporta sa Noynoy-Mar tandem.

    My two cents thoughts for Noynoy and Kuya Mar. Think!

  13. Right on, Chi! Right on!

    Calling Noynoy and Mar!

    We want to hear what you’ve got to say!

  14. Exellent question: Bakit walang sagot yata ang LP party?

  15. balweg balweg

    Ang lakas ng alingasaw Igan MPRivera…hanggang dito e abot ang bango!

    Nakaamoy ka na ba ng bugok ng itlog…ang antut at nakakasulukasok ang amoy di ba.

    Yan ang mga lingkod-bulsa…kadiri to death, isinusuka na ng taong bayan e kapit-tuko at dedma lang.

  16. Chi,

    O baka naman pareho ni Ermita, minamaliit ni Noynoy Aquino at ni Mar Roxas itong mga Magdalo at ang mga supporters nila?

    And to think I’m not even a full-pledged supporter of the Magdalos but if I were made to choose between tradpols and these young officers’ group, I wouldn’t hesitate! I’d dump tradpols (Aguino-Roxas not exempt) anytime.

    All a question of values really: Who has the integrity (not corrupt) and the nobility of heart to sacrifice all for their country?

  17. chi chi

    Anna,

    Noy and Mar should not belittle the Magdalo and Magdalo supporters. My whole town in Bataan went 98% Trillanes in 2007. I can easily sway them. First cousins ko ang naglalabang mayor dyan and whatever I say…aprub sila!

  18. chi chi

    “…if I were made to choose between tradpols and these young officers’ group, I wouldn’t hesitate! I’d dump tradpols (Aguino-Roxas not exempt) anytime.” – Anna

    Same here…no ifs, no buts!

  19. rose rose

    ano ba ito? abusado talaga ang karamihan ng Armed Forces of the Phil..at naging Armed Forces ni Pidal…wari ko sa kakalaro ng golf with gloria mabaho arroyo na wala ang kanilang balls..kaya ayan! where are the stout hearted men? they are nothing but stout men..walang puso karamihan sa kanila ay matataba na (stout) hindi na sila makatayo sa katabaan literally, physically, and more so financially..mabigat ang kanilang bulsa sa pera..malungkot na wala na tayo maasahan! takot makulong! wala na sila who will stand for the right they adore! pura kaliwa…

  20. First cousins ko ang naglalabang mayor dyan and whatever I say…aprub sila!

    Hah! Sige sila diyan… talo sila!

    Maybe Noynoy Aquino doesn’t know what’s going on? He had better get cracking and check this out.

  21. Teka, teka muna. Bakit wala akong naririnig sa panig ng Noynoy-Mar tungkol sa alyansa nila sa Magdalo?

    My comment: Implied na lang iyon, mga kapatid sa pananampalataya, tulad ng idini-deny ng Arroyo and Villar camps na hindi sila birds of the same feather. Kasi isa na naman isyo ito na puputaktihin ng mga evil monsters eh.

    Below radar na lang muna.

  22. My comment: Implied na lang iyon,

    Talaga?

    Sorry, time to stand up and be counted. Can’t be below radar na lang muna. Ano sila NPAs?

    At their level, Aquino and Roxas can afford to be brave.

    It is in difficult times when brave people need to make a stand, no matter how hard it is. Otherwise, the tag of tradpol might stick and might not go away ever again.

  23. chi chi

    For me, I would like the real alyansa…not implied which can go wrong anytime.

  24. And “implied” could also mean “duwag.”

  25. chi chi

    Noynoy-Mar, kailan pa kayo magpa-pratice na gumawa ng wise decision? Simulan na sa Magdalo alliance.

    Sino ba talaga ang nasusunod sa LP, si Drilon? Dati kong amo yan, pero hindi ko iboboto kung ganyan na pinababayaan niya ang aking mga kakosa na Magdalo.

    And “implied” could also mean “duwag.” – Anna

    It means, “supot” din.

  26. martina martina

    From not too distant past in this blog, Trillanes was understood to be on the side of Money Villarroyo, how will that reconcile with his possible alliance with the LP?

  27. chi chi

    martina, nagbigay lang ng mensahe noon si Trillanes, not endorsed Villar. In fact, before that nagpahiging si Trillanes na mukhang susuporta sila kay Noynoy-Mar. Hindi lihim sa LP na may namimintong negosasyon ng alliance sa Magdalo at LP…tanungin ninyo ang pamunuan ng LP. Sa basa ay mukhang hindi ganado ang LP sa kanila. Hindi yan lihim sa mga nagpapaandar kay Noynoy-Mar.

  28. Mike Mike

    OT:

    Is it true that FVR is for Gibo for president? If true, kawawa naman si Gibo, double kiss of death. 😛

    Sorry po sa OT, di ko matiis eh… 😀

  29. chi chi

    Basta ako ay hindi kailanman pabor kay Villarroyo at hindi ko sya iboboto kahit sabihin pa ng Papa sa Roma.

    Maaring magkaiba kami ng kandidato ng Magdalo pero ang suporta ko sa kanila ay buo at hindi magbabago. May tatlong buwan pa akong mag-iisip depende sa nakikita kong progress na aayon sa aking panlasa.

  30. chi chi

    Mike, huli ka namang masyado sa balita, tagal na niyan a. 🙂

  31. perl perl

    ano sa tingin nyo dapat sabihin nila Noynoy-Mar o ng LP? Nasa korte na ang kaso.. pagnagsalita sila tungkol dito… baka makasama pa.. pwede silang akusahan na iniimpluwensyahan nila yung kaso…

  32. chi chi

    perl, kasasabi lang ni Noynoy na palalayain niya si Gen. Lim. Bakit hindi kasama lahat, pati sina Col. Querubin? Anong impluwensya sa korte? Alyansa ang pinag-uusapan.

  33. chi chi

    Kung nauna ng i-press release ng LP/Noynoy ang ‘pagpapalaya’ kay Gen. Lim, meaning impluwensya na yan. Bakit hindi pa niya isinama sa press release ang lahat ng Magdalo at Tanay Boys para maganda sa tingin ng lahat na sakaling siya ay maging presidente nga ay pantay ang tingin niya sa lahat?

    Wala akong problema kay Gen. Lim dahil isa sya sa aking sinusuportahan ng full, pero ang problema ko ay bakit meron tinititigan ang LP samantalang pare-pareho ang mga sundalo na yan na lumalaban sa evil sa Malacanang?

  34. perl, kasasabi lang ni Noynoy na palalayain niya si Gen. Lim. Bakit hindi kasama lahat, pati sina Col. Querubin? Anong impluwensya sa korte? Alyansa ang pinag-uusapan.

    Excellent points, Chi!

    Now, Aquino-Roxas tandem…please reply.

  35. perl perl

    gusto ko lamang pong linawin ung issue:

    Kung nauna ng i-press release ng LP/Noynoy ang ‘pagpapalaya’ kay Gen. Lim, meaning impluwensya na yan.. Agree!

    Bakit hindi kasama lahat, pati sina Col. Querubin?
    Si Col Querubin, hindi bat NP Senatorial Candidate? Parang hindi ata tama magsalita ang isang political party pabor sa kalabang political party…

    If I remember it right, nagpahimig na si Senator Trillanes noon ng suporta sa tambalang Noynoy-Mar. Bakit walang sagot yata ang LP party?
    Alam natin na malaking tulong ang Magdalo sa LP o kung kanino mang opposisyon party na susuportahan nila… tingin ko, alam din ng LP yan… Baka nga mas malaki pa sa pwdeng maitulong ni Gen. Lim… pero ang tanong… May alyansa ba talaga ang LP at Magdalo? Kung meron, malabong hindi i-announce ng LP to… isa pa, si Layug na Magdalo, san bang partido?

  36. rose rose

    Ang No Comment ni Noynoy is his response..hindi ko siya masisi kasi hindi ba ang military ang nag gulo ng administration ni Cory..the number of times Hodasan attempted the coup? I can not forget when that happened..after 20 years I went home..and a few days after, nag karoon ng rat ta tat sa Camp Aguinaldo..and because we live just a couple of blocks kitang kita ko ang exchange of fire..not knowing anything I thought they were fireworks. My late sister who was with Forensic Chem Dept of NYPD told me that it was no fireworks..and she could spell gun powder at we prayed the rosary.. early the next morning an uncle came and got us all out..and as soon as the airport opened we took the first flight..hindi ba military attempt yon against the administration ni Cory by the military led by Hodasan? what do you want him to say?.. If he says something against many people in the military will have not a kind word for him..hindi ko siya masisi..

  37. rose rose

    con’d: dahil sa pangyayari na iyon nasira ang vacation ko..for Noynoy, this is a case of damn if you do and damn if you don’t case kaya tumahimik ka na lang..

  38. perl perl

    hindi ko siya masisi kasi hindi ba ang military ang nag gulo ng administration ni Cory. – rose
    Correct me if I’m wrong… ang alam ko kasama si Gen. Lim na nagkudeta kay Cory. If this is true at makitid pagiisip ni Noynoy, bakit nasa LP ngayon si Gen Lim at tahasang sinabi na palalayain si Gen. Lim.

  39. olan olan

    In my view, many Magdalo’s already signed a fact with the devil, considering many plead guilty to whatever charges where thrown at them. Key members even pledge to support the candidacy of Villaroyo! Can’t blame these guys for whatever decision they made. They have to decide what’s best for them. They were the ones who were unjustly treated. Persuasion by extended incarceration is hard to bear for anybody. Sadly, it looks like they forgot what they stand for before, with exception of the few holdouts and the support for Villaroyo may probably mean we have to endure more of the same.

  40. chi chi

    I only wish the people will know the facts of the accounts in the talks between the LP and the Magdalo.

    Olan, sa tono ng iyong post #39 ay meron kang alam…? Paki share naman ang katotohanan.

  41. patria adorada patria adorada

    Si Sen.Trillanes at si Sen.Madrigal ang nagsabi na ang C-5 ni villar ay isang uri ng graft,na alam din natin.ang sabi ng ibang senators kuno ay itik-itik lamang.

  42. tru blue tru blue

    Someone mentioned the word “nigger” and the chameleon pops out from his dungeon and rachet up the rhetoric as well as flaming bait.

    People just show their true colors when it comes to other human being’s dark skin.

    Brawner for sure is part black and a relative of Ifugao Guv Ted Baguilat who is also part black and the use of nigger in this thread is foul and racist.

    The issue here is that Brawner is uto-utosan of Gluerilla and that goes with all the generals under her spell, generals but lowly stooping to a lowly hag. Gluerilla puts words in his mouth, that’s the bottom line as was L Fajardo and late Remonde.

    This particuar thread will be a virtually critical reference point in the future when foreigners looks down on us brownies for one reason or another. Am sure there will be crying then.

  43. norpil norpil

    if brawner is of ifugao blood, then he is not a negro but a real pinoy. a lot of pinoys make mistakes but do not deserve to be looked down because of their race.

  44. perl perl

    maraming pinoy na pikon pero numero unong pintasero o racist…

  45. kejotee kejotee

    Lumilihis yata tayo sa usapan. Di ba niyo nahahalata na ang military pinangalandakan ang kanilang superior authority?? Can post bail, sabi ng korte, NO BAIL ang sabi ng military. Habeas corpus sabi ng SC, no way sabi ng military. Civilian authority is supposed to be superior to military authority, pero parang walang pakialam ang malakanyang. Parang magkasabuwat yata, or this country has become a BANANA REPUBLIC. Sayang lang ang kampanya ng mga kandidato sa eleksiyon, kung sa huli sabihin ni gloria na siya ay forever.

  46. norpil norpil

    ang military ay supposed to be under the executive branch, i.e., under the president. so they are liable to the president. the supreme court is supposed to be independent of the executive but under gma it seems to be not.pinas has always been a banana republic and that is not because we are producing bananas foe export.

  47. balweg balweg

    RE: Lumilihis yata tayo sa usapan…?

    Aba e diretso natin Igan Kejotee…baka sa kangkungan tayo pulutin niyan.

    Tutal libre naman ang magpahayag ng saloobin o kunsumidong kukote…at kung nagkataon na may e-VATrecto ito, wala na talagang kabuhay-buhay.

  48. kejotee kejotee

    The supreme court is trying hard to function, or be useful by issuing the writ of habeas corpus on the military oblivious of the fact that it has been de-fanged by gloria. The result: the military acts like the SC does not exist. Even in the lower kingdom, when the lion is without teeth, it will die ‘cuz it cannot bring down its prey, and thus starve. Likewise, the SC without its muscle to enforce its edict will DIE – and so will democracy.
    Keep watch during the coming days … while the people are regaled by the moro-moro callled elections, the military will tighten its grip … WATCH EDUARDO ERMITA!!

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