Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim has become a pathetic figure – a far cry from the anti-crime crusading character that earned for him the compliment “Dirty Harry”, the alias of the fictional character of San Francisco policeman, Harold Francis Callahan, played in several films by Clint Eastwood.
IIRC recommended harshest sanction on Lim
In recommending administrative and criminal proceedings, the IIRC held Lim liable for “assuming the authority of the on-scene commander in negotiations and tactical action… for negligence in his failure to organize and constitute the CMC (crisis management committee), for issuing an illegal order the arrest of Gregorio Mendoza, for abandoning and ordering the on-scene commander to abandon the Advance Command Post at the height of the hostage crisis and, in general, for failure to perform his duties as CMC Chairman… constituting dereliction of duty and gross negligence.”
“Dirty Harry” endeared himself to the audience by stomping on the inept bureaucracy, even taking the law in his hands, to give justice to the underprivileged.
Lim became a legend when he cleared known criminal havens of undesirable elements. For that, he was rewarded a political career after he retired from the police service. He was manila mayor from 1992 to 1998 and senator from 2004 to 2007. He returned as Manila mayor in 2007 and got re-elected last May.
One would think that with his long years as local chief executive, Lim would have handled the Aug. 23 hostage incident with competence and wisdom. What we saw was “utak pulbura” at work.
He has never admitted mistake for the debacle that claimed the lives of eight Hongkong tourists and strained relations with China and its prosperous administrative region, which hosts thousands of Filipino workers.
The IIRC , in fact, put the blame squarely on him. The committee, headed by Justice Secretary Leila de Lima, listed eight incidents that turned the crisis into a tragedy. Lim had a role in almost all of those incidents.
The first incident was the non-activation of the crisis management committee. “Mayor Alfredo Lim of the City of Manila was the person in authority charged with the duty of activating the CMC,” the committee said.
The committee criticized the attention given by authorities concerned to SPO2 Gregorio Mendoza, brother of hostage-taker,former Senior Inspector Rolando Mendoza as co-conspirator and accessory.
“Whether he was shouting or not is not really material. The fact is Col. Yebra (the negotiator) displayed his loss of focus on the task at hand. He was distracted by a peripheral matter,” the committee said.
“More important to addressing the actuations of Gregorio was re-building the confidence of Mendoza, re-establishing contact with him, and salvaging the negotiations that clearly broke down, by working on the offered alternative solution. Instead, Col. Yebra, Mayor Lim, Gen. Magtibay, and other police officers present focused on handling the peripheral matter involving Gregorio resulting to Mayor Lim’s order for Gregorio’s arrest, looking for handcuffs, and conferring on how to handle Gregorio. By attending to the peripheral matter, precious time to salvage the negotiations, already critical at this late hour of the crisis situation, was lost. The windows of opportunity were closing,” the report further said.
The committee noted that the arrest of SPO2 Gregorio Mendoza, upon orders of Mayor Lim, “s was the proximate cause of the chain of events that led to Mendoza’s shooting at the hostages.”
The report said:” The potential adverse reaction of Mendoza to an arrest of Gregorio was not lost to Mayor Lim. This is borne by his instruction to the escorting officers to use the back door of the Advance Command Post to avoid media. That Mendoza was viewing television at this time was already known at this point. The instruction to avoid media should be taken in this context.
“Given the tenuous situation, i.e., negotiations having broken down, adding a potential irritant to Mendoza with the arrest of his brother was a lack or absence of sound judgment.”
The committee also cited the departure of Mayor Lim and General Magtibay from the Advance Command Post at a crucial time.
“The absence of Mayor Lim and General Magtibay in the Advance Command Post created a vacuum in command or decision makers. This resulted in the inability of those present to handle crisis events as they unfolded. Everything that Mayor Lim and General Magtibay hoped to accomplish at Emerald Restaurant, including taking a meal, could have been accomplished at the Advance Command Post and even better because they would have been in a position to react to events promptly.
“The most significant of events that transpired after Mayor Lim and General Magtibay left the Advance Command Post were the coverage of Gregorio being arrested, the deadlines being given by Mendoza before he starts shooting the hostages and the actual shooting of hostages.”
When told last Monday about his inclusion among those to be sanctioned as recommended by the Incident Investigating and Review Committee that looked into the tragedy, Lim said he was “insulted.”
Lim is hopeless. It’s now up to Aquino to save the Filipino people from government officials like Lim.
Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim was driven to tears Tuesday while defending policemen even as he criticized his inclusion in the list of officials deemed responsible for the hostage mess.
“You cannot rely on anybody except policemen and soldiers who are paid to die. No other professional will offer to sacrifice their lives for you … Every time they step out of their homes, one foot is buried in the ground,” an emotional Lim said, pounding a closed fist on his table at the Manila City Hall.
Lim likened the IIRC report to a “shotgun blast.”
“Everyone who was there was hit.”
“Who of you here will willingly die in the performance of your duty? No one. Only the police. And yet what are we getting into? Blame and keep blaming the police. Let’s place things in its proper perspective. What do we stand to get from keeping up the blame game?” Lim said in a news conference.
The mayor denied responsibility for the bloodbath, insisting that he performed his role “to the letter and to the best of his ability under the circumstances.”
Lim defended his decision to leave the command post at the height of crucial negotiations to eat at Emerald Garden restaurant and denied that it constituted abandonment of his duties as the chair of the crisis management committee.
***
Lim bears brunt of recommended sanctions in hostage crisis
Malaya
The Incident Investigation and Review Committee has recommended that administrative and criminal proceedings be opened against Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim, the harshest directed at 12 persons tagged as having responsibility for the bungled hostage rescue attempt that resulted in the death of eight Hong Kong tourists and the hostage taker on August 23.
It said his actions during the hostage crisis constitute dereliction of duty and gross negligence under the Local Government Code (RA 7160.
The specific recommendations of the IIRC have not been publicly released.
It said administrative proceedings should be opened against five senior police officials and Interior Secretary Rico Puno. It recommended that a preliminary investigation be conducted on their possible criminal liability.
It held Manila Vice Mayor Francisco “Isko Moreno” Domogoso administratively liable but was silent on his possible criminal liability.
It said further investigation should be conducted against Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez to determine whether her offenses qualify as grounds for impeachment.
On Deputy Ombudsman Emilion Gonzales, the IIRC said the Office of the President should determine possible administrative offenses.
The panel said it is referring the results of the investigation of broadcasters Michael Rogas and Erwin Tulfo to the Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster ng Pilipinas for their possible sanctions for violations of the Code of Ethics.
The IIRC said that against ABC 5, ABS-CBN and GMA7, the results should be endorsed to the KBP, or appropriate media “watchdog” organizations, for possible violations of their Code of Ethics.
In recommending administrative and criminal proceedings, the IIRC held Lim liable for “assuming the authority of the on-scene commander in negotiations and tactical action… for negligence in his failure to organize and constitute the CMC (crisis management committee), for issuing an illegal order the arrest of Gregorio Mendoza, for abandoning and ordering the on-scene commander to abandon the Advance Command Post at the height of the hostage crisis and, in general, for failure to perform his duties as CMC Chairman… constituting dereliction of duty and gross negligence.”
On the reference to the arrest of Mendoza, brother of hostage taker Rolando Mendoza, the “Highlights” of the IIRC report said: “There is evidence to support the finding that what Mayor Lim actually ordered was the summary execution of Gregorio Mendoza when, in conjunction with the order to arrest… he also instructed the MPD officials present… that Gregorio be ‘brought to Tondo,’ a euphemism for summary execution…”
The grounds cited by IIRC against Chief Supt. Rodolfo Magtibay, ground commander and relieved Manila police chief, were serious irregularities in the performance of duties and gross incompetence; Director Leocadio Santiago Jr., former National Capital Region chief, “less grave” neglect of duty; PNP chief Jesus Verzosa, “less grave” neglect of duty; Puno, gross negligence; negotiator Supt. Orlando Yerba, negligence, and; Insp. Santiago Pascual III, assault team leader, gross incompetence.
Malacanang allayed fears of a whitewash in the investigation of the August 23 hostage crisis following President Aquino’s decision not to release as yet the recommendations of the Incident Investigation and Review Committee (IIRC) and to have them reviewed by his own legal panel.
Aquino said Monday a review by Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa Jr. and chief presidential legal counsel Eduardo de Mesa is necessary because the IIRC report did not make specific recommendations on which persons should be charged with what crime.
(The “Recommendations” portion of the report which has yet to be released belies this. The recommended charges were specific to each person.)
He also said he may uphold some recommendations, or add to or subtract from them.
Presidential spokesman Edwin Lacierda said releasing the recommendations would have an impact on the lives and reputation of the individuals cited in the report.
“Gusto ng Pangulo na he would be able to support everything in the report. That’s why he wants to study the report. Because first and foremost, let me emphasize, the report is recommendatory in nature,” he said.
“Kapag inilabas kung ano ang magiging pag-aaral po ng Chief Presidential Legal Counsel at ng Office of the Executive Secretary, ilalahad po iyong dalawa. So, wala po tayong itatago, ilalabas po natin iyong dalawang iyon in fairness to those people named,” he added.
Lacierda said Aquino has great confidence in Justice Secretary Leila de Lima, head of the IIRC, and her work but the President does not want to make hasty decisions.
“The report is recommendatory, so the final decision rests on the President. Kaya nais niyang maging maayos po ang kaniyang decision sa pag-aaral po ng IIRC report at ang mga recommendation doon sa report,” he said.
He said there is no need for the officials named in the IIRC report to go on leave.
Lacierda said unlike the partial report released by Malacañang to the public on Monday afternoon, the government gave the full IIRC report to the Chinese government through its embassy in Manila a few hours earlier.
He said Chinese Ambassador Liu Jianchao replied positively to Foreign Affairs Undersecretary Esteban Conejos, who delivered the report to the Chinese embassy.
He said Hong Kong authorities are conducting a separate investigation but he is not aware if it was finished.
Inhibition
Lima said the panel’s recommendation was basically to initiate administrative proceedings for specific administrative offenses under applicable rules of the National Police Commission (Napolcom) and the PNP and the Local Government code, and/or preliminary investigation for possible criminal liability arising from the acts or omissions as determined by the IIRC, or further investigation or referral to appropriate venues.
She also said she is willing to inhibit herself from reviewing any case that may reach the Department of Justice against those who would be charged in connection with the hostage crisis.
This is to allay perception of prejudgment.
She said there is a big possibility the DOJ will be tasked to handle the charges.
“The option to inhibit is always there…Due process must be observed and we cannot be the judge and jury at the same time,” De Lima said.
De Lima also asked President Aquino not to “absolve or exclude” personalities the IIRC recommended charged, and appealed for “minor” changes in report.
“Since under review nga by the President through his legal team, there may be changes there. But on the part of IIRC sana kung mayroon mang changes it would just be minor. Yun bang babawasan lang ng konti ang culpability o dadagdagan yung culpability. Hindi yung outright exclusion o absolution of certain personalities,” De Lima said at the Senate where she attended the hearing of the proposed DOJ budget.
She further defended the report’s “open-ended” recommendation on the liabilities of those included in the report.
“Talagang open-ended yung sa criminal proceedings because of lack of time sa evaluation and study ng committee. Hindi pa namin masyado mai-ugnay o hindi pa namin clear na ma-indicate or specify ang specific charge. So it’s an open-ended recommendation with respect to the criminal proceedings,” she said.
Report welcomed
China welcomed the submission but said it has yet to dissect the IIRC 83-page report, citing its length.
“The initial reading indicates that the Philippine side takes a sincere and serious manner in handling with and looking into the incident, to which the Chinese side expresses its appreciation,” said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Jiang Yu in a statement released by the Chinese Embassy.
“Since it is a long report, the Chinese side does need time for a careful study,” the official added.
Jiang renewed calls for the prevention of similar incidents.
“We hope that the Philippine side takes effective measures to strengthen protection of the Chinese personnel in the Philippines and prevent the reoccurrence of similar tragedies,” said Jiang.
Jiang added that China is always ready to continue the further advancement of the relations between the two countries “in a sound and steady manner.”
‘Situation room’
Lacierda also said because of the hostage crisis, government is revising its crisis management manual and is cobbling up a “situation room” to monitor future crises. He said the new manual would be released soon.
“We have the manual. We have the resources. We have the forces to deal with any incident such as hostage taking,” he said.
He said National Security Adviser Cesar Garcia will head the situation room.
A “war room” was set up inside Malacañang by President Arroyo in 2004, following the kidnapping of Filipino overseas worker Angelo de la Cruz in Iraq. It was headed by former military colonel Victor Corpus.
The small facility, which was shown to Palace reporters, contained monitoring equipment such as telephones, several television screens dedicated to important news sources, computers and other telecommunications equipment.
Lacierda said the “war room” has been dismantled.
Verzosa ready
Verzosa, through lawyer Benjamin de los Santos, said is ready to face any charge.
Delos Santos expressed confidence his client, who is out of the country, will have no liability.
“We followed the manual and standards and international protocols on hostage situation, and if you have time to read and really analyze the report of the IIRC, they themselves admitted that it is difficult to determine authority due to inadequacy of the manual,” he said.
Delos Santos said the principle of command responsibility does not apply to Verzosa since the buck stops at Magtibay’s immediate superior. Santiago.
Verzosa was at Cagayan de Oro City at the height of the hostage drama and could not immediately fly back to Manila since there were no more flights available that time. He went on early retirement last week.
Con games
The Office of the Ombudsman questioned the basis for the recommendation on Gutierrez and Gonzalez.
Deputy Ombudsman Mark Jalandoni and Assistant Ombudsman Jose de Jesus clarified that Gutierrez never promised the hostage-taker, dismissed Supt. Rolando Mendoza, that he will be reinstated.
They stressed that Mendoza accepted the Ombudsman’s commitment to personally review the case which led to his dismissal.
“Mendoza knew very well that the Ombudsman cannot possibly grant his request that same day. There was no confusion; Mendoza had a crystal clear understanding of what was promised to him. After their phone conversation, he even released one of the hostages as a proof of good faith and acceptance,” Jalandoni pointed out.
As to suggestions that the Ombudsman should have readily agreed to reinstate Mendoza to save the lives of hostages, the two officials explained that the anti-graft body cannot be party to such a deception.
“We are not here to play con games or to compromise with criminals. Doing so would damage the irreversibly damage the credibility of this office. The Office of the Ombudsman is not part of the negotiation; we have no expertise about such matters. We only did our job according to the letter of the law,” De Jesus said.
The two likewise questioned the tone of the IIRC report which they said tended to portray Mendoza as a martyred hero rather than a former police officer who went rogue to force the government to give in to his demands.
“From what we read, the report seemed to depict the hostage-taker as a hero rather than a former lawman who chose to be a criminal. Mendoza betrayed his sworn duty to uphold and protect the law and brought shame to our country,” De Jesus added.
New investigation
At the same press conference, the two officials announced that the anti-graft body will begin today its own investigation centering exclusively on the botched rescue operations.
Jalandoni said Gutierrez has created a special panel of field investigators to be led by Assistant Ombudsman Joselito Fangon. The team was given 30 days to submit its findings.
The new probe was launched at the request of HK-Special Administrative Region, Southern District councilors Henry Chai Man Hon and Andrew Fung Wai Kwong who wrote to Gutierrez last August 24.
De Jesus said their office received the letter last September 16 but the Ombudsman allowed the IIRC to complete its own investigation out of respect to the directives of President Aquino.
Jalandoni said testimonies and other evidence gathered by the IIRC will become part of the Ombudsman’s investigation and will be considered in its independent review of evidence “to prevent duplication.”
He stressed that the investigation will focus solely on the police conduct of the rescue operations at the request of the HK-SAR officials to determine the readiness of police operatives, accuracy of threat assessment by police officials and whether the ground commander made the correct call in not shooting Mendoza when he exposed himself outside the bus several times.
Lim blames Mendoza’s brother
Lim, in a pres conference, blew his top as he lashed at the IIRC for including him and Moreno among those recommended to be charged.
Lim said that contrary to the findings of the IIRC, he did not abandon his duty as head of the crisis management committee.
The mayor instead put the blame on SPO2 Gregorio Mendoza, brother of the hostage-taker, for egging the latter to not to agree to the offers of negotiators unless his service firearm was released by the MPD, thus, laying the groundwork for his brother to lose his confidence in the negotiations.
He recounted that Gregorio admitted before him and the other officers present at the advance command post (ACP) that he had knowledge of his brother’s plans. Yet, Lim said, there appeared to be no mention of Gregorio in the IIRC report.
“Baligtad na ba ang mundo?” he said.
Reacting to the portion of the report stating that Lim should have had his meal at the ACP instead of at the Emerald Restaurant, Lim said: “Gaano ba kalayo ang Emerald sa bus? Eh mas malayo pa ang MPD headquarters sa UN Avenue kung saan nandun ang ibang opisyal ng gobyerno. There is no abandonment that took place because all the key officials of the MPD remained at the ACP.”
Aside from Magtibay, the mayor said all the key MPD officers were at the post including the deputies, station commander and the one in charge of public affairs.
Meanwhile, lawyer Harry Roque, who heads Centerlaw, a group of lawyers advocating human rights and press freedom, expressed disappointment at the IIRC recommendation to charge the media, saying bad journalism is not synonymous to criminal conduct.
“While we acknowledge that media may have failed to observe the highest degree of professionalism and self-restraint in their coverage of the unfortunate incident, still this is not a basis for holding them liable for breach of the country’s criminal laws. Bad journalism is not and should never be criminal in a democracy,” he said in a statement. – Regina Bengco, Evangeline de Vera, JP Lopez, Gerard Naval, Peter Tabingo and Raymond Africa
Agree that Lim is liable, but Isko Moreno? I wonder why the vice mayor is included in the list?
Lim has outlived his usefulness. He’s got to go. President can suspend him too (within presidential executive powers to suspend local execs.)
Why don’t our politicians possess delicadeza? Even when they are caught en flagrant délit, they still insist they’ve done nothing worng or that they will go if the president says so…
Pitiful Lim. Nagutom siya. Mas inuna ang kanyang bituka kay sa kapakanan ng buhay ng iba at ng bansa. Hindi niya ginamit ang utak so we should thank him for his services and then chop his head.
Pahinga na sana si mayor kasi mukhang ayaw niyang tanggapin na laos na ang kanyang style. 🙂
Isama si abnoy sa mapapatalsik… siya ang unang umako kaya gawin bola ang ulo niya pagulungin sa quirino grandstand.
Sobra ang laki ng Ego ni Lim. Narcissist yata.
Naglalaway at nanggigigil si Lim … ingat lang baka siya na ang susunod na manghostage …. lol
Ha ha naging utak pulbura si Mayor Lim.
Old politicians should learn a lesson from him – retire bago maging utak pulbura, lalu na ang mga matatanda na, tama na, ibigay nyo nman sa iba.
I don’t Mayor Lim has been in a situation, in all his high-profile jobs as chief of Northern Police District, chief Manila Police District, NBI Director, Manila Mayor, DILG Secretary, Senator and again now as Manila mayor, where it required the use of his intelligence. Until the August 23rd hostage crisis.
He has always shone when all that’s required is “utak pulbura.”
And in his tantrum we saw a poor toddler in an old man’s body.
I meant to say, “I don’t think Mayor Lim….”
Naloko na. Maganda siguro sundin na lang ang rekomendasyon ng IIRC — ang rekomendasyon na nasa “Incident Investigation and Review for China” (IIRC) report, sabi ng barbero ko.
its a sad sight…alfredo lim was one of the leaders i admired…he gets things done…and one hostage incident smears his long record of getting things done…
…he could’ve just retired and let the young generation of leaders take their turn…
Iba na talaga ang panahon ngayon. Iyakin na si Dirty Harry. Ang masama pa nito, mukhang hindi pa rin niya malaman kung bakit nakasama siya sa mga liable sa hostage crisis. May pagka egoistic itong si Alfredo. Sayang daw mga accomplishments niya sa pagka pulis ngayon nadamay siya sa IIRC report. Bali wala na raw lahat iyon. Hindi raw tama itong report ng IIRC. Hindi ba tama na kasuhan ka dahil derelection of duty? Nasaan ang pinagmamalaki mong CMC? At the height of putukan minabuti mong mag retreat at kumain na muna sa Emerald dahil sabi mo nga raw “gutom” ka. Nakakahiya ka Meyor, akala ko pa naman kagalang galang kang mayor. Mali pala ako.
Alfredo,
Huwag mo ipagyabang ang mga matagumpay mo na nagawa NOON! iba ito ngayon, banyaga ang mga naging biktima! OO, may nag buwis nga isang police, pero tao mo lang din pala na sya rin ang salarin sa krisis….Harapin mo nalang ang kaso mo,at huwag ka iiyak dyan na parang naagawan ng candy…
Its time for Lim to give it a rest…kahit man lang sa mga nagawa niya para sa bayan, bigyan na lang natin siya ng kaukulang respeto…
…tingin ko pwede na so Isko, masipag din naman siya…
Ang puso at “UTAK” ay dalawang mahiwagang bagay na ipinagkaloob ng dakilang lumikha sa bawat nilalang sa mundo.Ang puso ay puwedeng tumibok sa bawat saglit sa loob 24 na oras sa mahabang panahon,kahit walang utak.Ang “utak” ay di na puwedeng gumanap ng isang tungkulin kapag ang puso ay tumigil na sa pagtibok.Gayon din ang bawat bahagi ng ating katawan kapag ang utak ay napinsala o nagkaroon ng kapansanan.Dahil sa “UTAK”,ito ang nagiging gabay sa tagumpay at kasawian sa bawat nilalang sa tama o maling paraan,ito rin ang sandigan ng bawat bansa upang maging pagunlad o paglugmok sa kahirapan,kahihiyan at bagay na dapat ay husgahan.Sa maling paraan na pag-“GAMIT” ng utak ng mga mamayan ng isang bansa ay mahirap umunlad.
Bakit kasi, ayaw tumangap ng Katutuhanan ang mga ” TRAPOS “, old politicians. Akala nila, mabilis pa din ang mga UTAk nila, katulad ng kabataan nila noon. Isa pa, masyadong ” defensive sila, kahit, na kitang-kita ang ibidensya sa pagkakamali. Ang grabe, at nakaka-dismaya, ay iyong ” PAGSISINU-NGALIN ” ( lawyers-Liars ), ayaw tumangap ng katalunan, hanggang abutan sila ng KARMA. Ang mga pangyayari ay karma ng kanilang,irisponsabilidad, at easy going attitudes ( siguro kung mga pinoy ang pinag-papatay [katulad ng Ampatuan], wala ng kaso, lilinisin nila. Ang karma, ibang lahi-chinese ang naging biktima, kaya wala silang lusot dito. Didig-main ng China ang Pilipinas, kapag di patas ang hustisya dito ). Ang buhay ay parang gulong, na umi-ikot, minsan nasa itaas, at minsan nasa ibaba. Magpakumbaba na lamang, at tangapin ang katutuhanan, para sa ika-uunlad ng bansa, at leksyong maliwanag sa susunod na henerasyon, na di na sila pamarisan pa.Iwasan ang maging “palpak”. Let this be a history and a lesson to learn by the next future leaders. Ito ang aking pananaw sa issue na ito.
Mukhang may history ng hindi pagkagusto itong si Lim kay Mendoza because of previous instances. Kaya siguro mas ginusto pa niya na pa-swat team na lang si Mendoza. Too bad, ang na-swat ay yung mga dayuhan. Lim should have set aside his personal grudges on Mendoza and just concentrated on saving the hostages’ lives.
From Inquirer:
Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim was driven to tears Tuesday while defending policemen even as he criticized his inclusion in the list of officials deemed responsible for the hostage mess.
“You cannot rely on anybody except policemen and soldiers who are paid to die. No other professional will offer to sacrifice their lives for you … Every time they step out of their homes, one foot is buried in the ground,” an emotional Lim said, pounding a closed fist on his table at the Manila City Hall.
Lim likened the IIRC report to a “shotgun blast.”
“Everyone who was there was hit.”
“Who of you here will willingly die in the performance of your duty? No one. Only the police. And yet what are we getting into? Blame and keep blaming the police. Let’s place things in its proper perspective. What do we stand to get from keeping up the blame game?” Lim said in a news conference.
The mayor denied responsibility for the bloodbath, insisting that he performed his role “to the letter and to the best of his ability under the circumstances.”
Lim defended his decision to leave the command post at the height of crucial negotiations to eat at Emerald Garden restaurant and denied that it constituted abandonment of his duties as the chair of the crisis management committee.
LIM & S.I. Mendoza has the same situations,only the differences,both of a members of the UNIFORMED authority,one his services were for welfare,peace and order of the people,while both of them recieved a numerous commendation from citizenries.The other “one” was habitual offender of the law,he was supposed to implement.It look like we can see the grain of sands,while the mount of hill been on the front not garner any attentions of the judging public.THOUGH ol’ saying it will no matter how much or spent in life to provide for the betterment of your fellowmen,are useless due of careless decisive incident of “MAD DOG “criminals,PERSONS been crucified due our narrow minds are blinded by “TSIMIS”,and expections of events.
Sa perspective view ng Mayor, tama siya, kayang ipagtangol ang sarili, ngunit sa pangkalahatang views or scenarios ng mga hustisya at naka-panood ( na nangyari sa Maynila-Grandstand, teritoryo niya, mayroon siyang “command responsibilty”. mabuti pa ang pangulong Pnoy, nag-pakumbabang uma-min ng kababaang loob. bakit sila, na nasa bakuran nila ang pangyayari, umi-iwas sa responsibilidad. Sana di na siya tumakbo ng Mayor, at di na nag-Pulis. Ang pag-pupulis o sundalo, minsan tatamaan ka ng bala. Nakaligtas sila, sa bala, ngunit, sa bala ng mata, at hustisya naman sila, tinamaan.Weder-weder lang ang buhay sa mundo, na katulad din ng mga biktima sa ” hostage taking “. Hayaan na lang nating antayin ang mga susunod na kabanata sa mga imbistigasyon na ito, at ipagtangol ang sarili, at malinis ang pangalan nila, kung sino ang tama-at-mali, kaya nga mayroong DOJ Department ang bansa ), di dapat takbuhan ang command post, at kumain, dahil sa katwirang nagugutom, kahit na malapit sa eksina ng mga pangyayari, mga buhay ng tao ang naka-taya, at mukha ng Pilipinas sa buong mundo, nasaan ang “heroism at patriotic services” dito, na mga sinumpaan, sayang na mga estrilya na naka, patung sa mga balikat. May GOD Bless and help find out solutions to ALL the concern personalities, and learn from this history in the making…
C’mon Mayor Lim, enough of the drama.
They didn’t die, did they?
On the contrary, perhaps eight Chinese civilians were killed because none of your police died, you old fart!
The police probably was/could’ve been good enough but you were not up to the task so they too failed.
Enough of the drama, Mayor. You have outlived your usefulness. Time to go.
Bakit sa Pinas…ang mentalidad ng maraming Pinoy e magsisihan sa anumang kapalpakan na nagawa? Dapat alam nating lahat kung ano ba ang ugat ng problemang kinaharap sa pagresolba ng Hostage drama na ito.
Wake-up call ito sa ating lahat…especially sa mga otoridad na dapat e sila ang responsable sa kapalpakang ito…this is not a simple issue, but several incidents already encountered by our military forces maging ito e Pulis-Patola or Militar ng mga nagdaang panahon?
Dapat maging malinaw sa lahat at magkaroon ng tunay na pagbabago sa hanay ng mga otoridad at lingkod-bulsa…opps, lingkod-bayan pala.
Naghahanap nang ituturo ang rehimeng PeNOY kasi nga in the first place e siya ang commander-in-cheap…oppss again, ….in-Chief pala ang siyang over-all responsible sa kapalpakang ito.
Ang tanong nasaan ba siya at that time ng insidente…at pagkatapos ng malagim at karimarimarim na tagpo e nagoccular inspection nga pero nang-alaska naman ng Tsinoy kasi yong bungisngis niyang outlook hayon napahamak tuloy ang Pinas?
Dapat ang puno’t dulo ng kapalpakan ito e dapat ang umako ang Kapulisan…kasi nga po, si Chief Versoza e naglamyerda sa Mindanao e bakit di ito ang inasikasong hostage crisis.
May grounded Commander nga…bopol pala, pakitang gilas ang mga SWATik team niya, ang training palang alam e pang Kabizkawts.
Akala…magcamping kaya maso, lubid na dapok at buti may tirgas kaya lang expired naman ata kaya walang masks na gamit ang mga bopol.
Dapat ang kasuhan walang iba si Puno, Lobredo, Gen. Magtibay at Gen. Versoza… at huwag magturo ng kung sinu-sino baka manuno sila?
@balweg #26,
Lim was also central to the police operations. So he is also culpable. I wished De Lima also included PNoy as one of the culpable officials. But that would be wishful thinking. De Lima’s boss is none other than PNoy.
Sabi ni PNoy right after August 23, hinayaan niya ang mga pulis kung anong dapat gawin dahil may malaking tiwala raw siya sa ating kapulisan. Pero sa report ni De Lima, he issued an order daw na SAF ang gamitin.
I smell a liar.
Sabi ni PNoy right after August 23, hinayaan niya ang mga pulis kung anong dapat gawin dahil may malaking tiwala raw siya sa ating kapulisan. Pero sa report ni De Lima, he issued an order daw na SAF ang gamitin.
I smell a liar.
– NFA
—————————–
so stop sniffing your up your ass already….
mayor lim should’ve just kept quiet, and accepted whatever the results of the investigation, para namang hindi siya pulis…whats the worst thing that could happen to him anyway, he of all people should show an example of how to respond to investigations on themselves…
the police will definitely close ranks to defend the organization…if lim has any sense of duty and love for the organization he hails from, he should always remind them of their duty to the state…and humbly submit to its authority…
““You cannot rely on anybody except policemen and soldiers who are paid to die. No other professional will offer to sacrifice their lives for you … Every time they step out of their homes, one foot is buried in the ground,” an emotional Lim said, pounding a closed fist on his table at the Manila City Hall.”
Engot pala itong Dirty Harry (daw) … di ba niya alam na kasama sa trabaho nila iyan? Anong gusto niya … tanggap na lang ng tanggap ng tongpats ang kapulisan …. yan ba ang gusto niya ha! ha! ha! ha!
Kung yong pare ay kasama rin sa trabaho niya yong isakripisyo ang buhay sa atin … ito ay kanya ring gagawin …..
Ex General/Mayor ayaw mong mapunta sa hukay yong isang paa … e di waaaaaaag ka sanang mag-pulis. Mag-embalsamador ka na lang.
Tapos na ang imbestigasyon at maliwanag na may lakas loob ang investigating panel to name names. Ibig sabihin nito, itinaya rin ng bumubo ng IIRC sa pangunguna ni DOJ Secretary de Lima ang kanilang pangalan at karangalan sa paglalahad ng resulta na walang sinisino. Dahil recommendatory in nature, nasa kamay ni PNoy ang decision kung susundin ang kanilang recommendation matapos itong ma-review.
Lim is relying on the Filipino’s propensity to melodrama. Tingnan ninyo kung anong nangyari, namatay lang si Cory naging presidente na ang anak niya. Ginamit ang kamatayan sa pulitika. Siguro sinisingil na ng mga patay si PNoy.
Sangayon kay Maria Ressa, PNoy flunks in his first test, makikita natin ngayon kung papasa siya sa second test base sa kanyang gagawing action. At ito ang kaabang-abang. Kung sakaling iitsa pwera ni PNoy ang recommendation, anong gagawin ni Sec. de Lima?
Sa aking pagkilatis sa paninindigan ni Sec. de Lima, she will tender her resignation. The first resignation of a cabinet member in the new administration. I would like to think, Jessie Robredo will do the same. Uunahan na niya si Rico Puno who’s still clinging to his position inspite of the double whammy,
I am now praising PNoy in advance because he will be firing Puno. This Puno mess is becoming too costly politically.
Huwag naman tayo manghusga nang tapos. Bigyan natin ng chance si P.Noy to lead this nation great again, sabi pa nga ni Marcos. Except for this hostage crisis issue, so far, so good naman mga decision niya. Ako, hindi ko siya manok noong election. As a matter of fact, I supported Erap pero andiyan na iyan, ibinoto siya ng 15 million or more ng mga kababayan natin so tanggapin natin na legit siya. Siya ang pangulo ko, pangulo mo Ellen at pangulo ng sambayanang Pilipino. Let’s give him due respect and let’s support him para tayo’y umasenso naman.
me sapak na sa ulo si lim kung ano-ano na ang sinasabi nasa 2nd childhud na. ang spokesman ng ombudsman ang kapal ng mukha kaya raw natatagalan ang kaso sa kanila kasi pinag-aaralan maiigi.lol-u.
Kawawa naman si pareng Lim. Marami syang nagawa para sa bayan pero nagkamali sya ng isang beses ay nabali wala na ang lahat ng yon.
Hindi lang kay Lim nangyari ang ganyan. Maraming tao ang nasira dahil lang sa isang pagkakamali. Pahinga ka na pareng Lim.
NFA rice – September 22, 2010 9:56 pm
Hindi patay ang nagpatakbo kay PNoy kundi ang mga buhay na taon bayan… makikita sa consistent result ng survey yan… hindi simple ang problema ng pilipinas at hindi madali ang maging presidente… kaya huwag umasa na araw-araw may good news…
Mas dapat matakot ang mga tarantado sa lipunan kapag kinanti ni PNoy si Mayor Lim… dahil isa lang ibig sabihin… kapag lumabag sa batas…walang sisinuhin…
miserably unrepentant…. and miserably senile?
they say lim does not seem as sharp as he used to.
…i believe that our own worst enemy is ourselves, we’re easily scattered and easily baited to get at each other’s throats – making us very weak indeed…
…from the indoctrination of our youth in maoist principles (skillfully translated to tagalog and other dialects), to the leftists continously mouthing anti US slogans, our tendency to get easily misdirected – take for example the series of unfortunate events ie hostage crisis, jueteng, etc… we are easily led to condemn our leaders…
there are forces at work here, one that is staring us in the face is the temptation to denounce democracy by curtailing press freedom and to embrace the concept of an iron fisted leader…on the one hand, we are looking at issues now that divide us, discredit the leadership, and all these unseen, anonymous voices and hands at work instilling confusion…using the perceived weaknesses of democracy against itself…making us abuse our freedom of speech…
…we don’t have leaders now who play golf with the asian super power…expect more incidents that will force the hand of our leaders to dance to their music or else…
…we must not allow these issues to divide us, we must be united, we must rally behind our leaders – the duly constituted ones…division is not caused by people running off like headless chickens, it is caused by following so many leaders, each with his own agenda, each one with his own interpretation of the law and how the country should be led…if we follow every tom, dick, and harry who cries wolf every now and then, where will that lead us?
…we follow the duly constituted authority, the voice of the people, and drown out all others…if after six years we decide we need to change direction, then we choose a different set of leaders…but we must learn to unite as one people so we can achieve more…and protect our democracy…our way of life…
That’s the problem with politicians. They don’t know when their time is up and time to quit. It’s either they don’t because they lust and enjoy power and money.
The shadow is always at it’s longest before twilight time. That’s when people are at their peak. The smart and the wise choose to quit when they are still at the top of their game, knowing that their shadows loom large on those they leave behind. But not Lim who in his old age still thinks he has what it takes to act as “Dirty Harry”.
Lim’s handling of the hostage crises was supposed to be one last shining moment of his career, but he bungled it. His very poor performance exposed in no uncertain terms a dull old man that’s supposed to be in retirement. Gone are the days when he was hailed as a tough crime fighter. Gone is “Dirty Harry”.
Lim is already in his twilight years. What we see now is a pathetic old man still trying to slug it out with reality. With his stubborn reaction there’s a danger that all his past performance will go down with him into oblivion. He should stop whining and acting like a cry baby to save whatever respect left in him. He should face the music.
Or better still, he should call it quits already.
florry,
true…he should’ve faded away like good old soldiers do…i don’t know why anyone would cling to fame and power for too long…at his age, if i were him, i would like to enjoy my grand children…or keep myself busy still with charities, volunteer work, foundations, things like habitat for humanity, or maybe be more active in church activities…he’s done more than enough for the country in the past…and at that age you don’t need much money anymore…you can’t drink too much, you can’t enjoy women that much…its time for something else…and more importantly, you don’t have the stamina and the sharpness for handling crisis situations already…and you’re not anymore open to criticism or feedback – which the young take as opportunities to improve not as judgment…
he’s talking like bangit, trying to get the police organization to feel ostracized by the people…when its not the case at all…
Let’s give pansy Harry a break. At that age, maybe he is suffering from some mental illness….may giyera sa tabi-tabi nya, but decided to chow down first; that’s a sign of “losing it”.
So long as senile voters will vote for him, and the likes of Enrile, Imelda Marcos, Jinggoy, Revilla, Pakyaw, and the same trapos in their hometowns every voting time; the changing of the guards is here to stay.
My friend Barack’s speech at the UN today (didn’t hear any from PNoy) was quite stinging to many world leaders when he said something like this: We need to combat and stop corruption as it’s the single greatest barrier to a nation’s prosperity and a profound violation to human rights.
Most of these world leaders will head home and will find there’s always cheese in their own mousetraps while their subjects will wallow deeper into poverty.
To be fair sa isyung ito…dapat ilatag ng rehimeng PeNOY ang black and white na kasulatan kung sinu-sino talaga ang resposable sa anumang rescue operation kung may ganitong problema?
After all, matutumbok ng legal luminaries kung sino talaga ang mananagot sa problemang ito? Ang tanong e ganito…sino ba ang opisyales ang may direct control sa hostage drama na ito?
Kasi nga po, nagtuturuan at naghahanap ng masisisi sa palpak na rescue operation. Ngayon kung sino ang incharge at kasama ang mga subordinates na nagpabaya o talaga bang walang kahandaan sa ganitong senaryo e kailangan ang managot nito ay ang PNP? Sila ang overall bosing ng kanilang subordinates…ngayon kung kasama ang itinalagang Crisis Committee na maghandle ng hostage drama na ito e offcourse may pananagutan dito…kasa ng lahat na envolves sa rescue operations na ito.
Ang tanong sinu-sino ba ang bumubuo ng Crisis Committee sa hostage drama na ito? At anong ahensiya ng pamahalaan ang envolves sa paghahandle ng ganitong krisis?
Sa ganitong pag-uurirat e malinaw nating matutumbok kung sinu-sino ang mananagot sa kapalpakang ito.
Ano ginawa nila…pinanuod sa TV ang karumaldumal na krimeng ito na umabot ng 11 hours standoff bago nagdesisyon ang mga Kinauukulan na itumba si Kapitang Mendoza.
E tirgas lang pala ang katapat…bakit umabot pa ng 11 hours ang dramang ito na kumitil sa buhay ng mga inosenteng biktima, ibig sabihin e bokya ang mga Otoridad at lingkod-bulsa na gampanan ang ipinagkatiwalang tungkuling sa kanila.
Ano pa inaantay nýo mga BOPOL…basbas ni PeNOY, wala kayong hiya…magsipagresign na kayo, puro kayo pahirap sa bayan?
For any emergency response incident management there are only two(2) guys who has direct authority and Saccountability, the CMC chairman and the ground commander.Other personalities have no authority whatsoever so they cannot be held liable. The IIRC Report is jumble of facts but it barely mentioned the logical and organized report. The report should have followed the following sequence. 1. Is there a manual 2. Does the CMC and Ground Command team read and understood it. 3 Did the CMC and the ground command team (not only the SWAT or SAF)made table top and full field exercise. If the answer to all three is no then there is strong ground of negligience(administrative) and reckless imprudence (criminal). The immediate superior can only be charged with command responsibility.
RE: If the answer to all three is no then there is strong ground of negligience(administrative) and reckless imprudence (criminal). The immediate superior can only be charged with command responsibility.~Melvinsky
Ibig sabihin nito…ang accountable sa kapalpakang ito kundi ang Head ng Hostage Crisis Committee na yan + ang ground commander na siyang may direct command sa rescue assult di ba…if, nakalatag ang official order from the higher authorities.
After all, dapat balikan ang Chief PNP kasi bakit…di handa ang kanilang pulis-patola sa ganitong rescue operation e armado ang suspek na si Kapitan M.?
Ngayon, kung sino pa yong mga pumapel na nagpakitang gilas na kayang resolbahin ang hostage standoff na ito e disorganize naman pala at walang malinaw na contingency plan paano hahawakan ang hostage drama na yan.
Pagkatapos ng kapalpakan kung sinu-sino ang pagbubuntunan ng sisi…sa nagawa nilang katangahan sa paghawak ng problema na yan.
Dapat yong direct involves sa rescue operation na ito ang siyang patawan ng karampatang parusa ng matuto at huwag nang pamarisan pa.
Di na natuto ang dami nang problema ang kinaharap ng bansa, pag na caught in the act sa kanilang katangahan ang katwiran wala daw enough budget kaya poor ang performance nang kanilang mga tauhan.
Lumang tugtugin na ang kwentong yan…ayaw aminin na mga BOPOL sila at pinagkakakitaan ang dapat e mapunta sa training at gamit ng mga Kapulisan.
Ex General/Mayor ayaw mong mapunta sa hukay yong isang paa … e di waaaaaaag ka sanang mag-pulis. Mag-embalsamador ka na lang. – Tedanz
Tama ka diyan!
Sana nag-aral na lang siya ng tailoring o dressmaking kaya.