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Let’s not allow Arroyo to rob us of our humanity

Update: DOJ bars Arroyo from travel

Gloria Arroyo's latest photo released by her lawyers to media Wednesday.
It’s no secret that I’m not an admirer of Gloria Arroyo and her husband, Mike.

I remain firm in my stand that she should be made accountable for the crimes that she has done to the Filipino people, foremost of which is the stealing of the presidency in 2001 and in 2004.

Invoking the primacy of national interest over individual rights, Justice Secretary Leila de Lima Tuesday slammed the door on Arroyo’s plan to seek medical treatment abroad.

“My order is a denial of the request for an allow-departure order (ADO),” De Lima announced at a news briefing.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/90633/arroyo-barred-from-travel

The damage caused by her destruction of democratic institutions just to keep her hold on power deeply affected the mindset of the public. It will take many years to rebuild those institutions which took several administrations to build.

But I’m for allowing her to travel abroad for medical treatment.

The Philippine Constitution guarantees the right of every Filipino citizen to travel. Sec. 6 of the Bill of Rights states: “The liberty of abode and of changing the same within the limits prescribed by law shall not be impaired except upon lawful order of the court. Neither shall the right to travel be impaired except in the interest of national security, public safety, or public health as may be provided by law.”

Lawyers of Arroyo is invoking that constitutional guarantee in their petition before the Supreme Court to junk the Arroyo couple’s inclusion in a watch list order by the Department of Justice (DOJ) in connection with electoral case filed them for their alleged role in the 2007 poll fraud.

It doesn’t matter that the Department of Health and an official of the Philippine Medical Association said that Gloria Arroyo’s problem with her spine can be treated her. The choice of doctor is personal to a patient. It’s not for the government to impose on the Arroyos the doctor who would treat them.

Of course, the issue of Arroyo’s travel abroad is not just a medical issue. It’s political. That’s why Justice Secretary Leila de Lima is taking time to decide. She must still be seeking instructions from Malacañang because ultimately, it would be the call of President Aquino.

Allowing a former president or spouse of a former president to travel abroad for medical treatment has its precedence. President Aquino’s father, the late Sen. Benigno Aquino, Jr. was allowed by his arch enemy, Ferdinand Marcos, to seek treatment for his heart ailment in the United States. Imelda Marcos, after her return to the Philippines in 1991, has been going in and out of the country despite her many cases (total of 901 in the beginning, now down to less than 10). Arroyo allowed former President Estrada to have his knee operation in Hongkong.

One of the concerns raised in Gloria Arroyo’s travel request is, she might not return and therefore, she could not be made accountable for the crimes that she is accused of.

It’s understandable that many do not put any value to Arroyo’s promise that she will return to face the charges. She promised not to run for the presidency in December 2002, in front of Jose Rizal’s monument, only to turn around after a few months.

But Arroyo’s lies should not harden us and do what she did to her opponents when she was in power.

She deprived many people of their liberties even to the extent of twisting the law just to keep them incarcerated. The case of Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV and the Magdalo officers is one example. Arroyo reneged on the agreement she had approved in Oakwood that only the core officers would charged in the military court, and ordered the filing of the unbailable charge of coup d’etat in a civilian court despite the fact that the Oakwood mutiny did not bear the elements of a coup.

The malicious intent was clear: to keep Trillanes and company in prison for life.

Arroyo tried to do the same thing to Sen. Panfilo Lacson- perverting justice to put him behind bars.

But alas, things have a way of correcting themselves. The situation has been reversed and she is in danger of becoming in the receiving end of injustice that she inflicted on her political enemies.

If allowed to travel, it’s possible Gloria Arroyo for once will be true to her promise and come back. Or maybe she won’t come back.

The burden is on her.

We should not allow Arroyo to rob us of our humanity.Let us not do unto Gloria what Gloria did unto us.

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100 Comments

  1. MPRivera MPRivera

    allow her to seek treatment abroad?

    please, give us FIRST a more acceptable reason to.

    during her term, were there any medical bulletin issued regarding her state of health? weren’t her hospitalizations discreetly hidden from public attention and only her travels abroad they said yielded much investment the only much publicized and trumpeted news fed to the people? but were there really investments or the country was secretly sold piece by piece in the guise of loans most of which were done without proper bidding where they amassed unexplainable wealth?

    please, stop fooling us this time!

    http://www.malaya.com.ph/nov08/news1.html

  2. pranning pranning

    08 November 2011

    Let the wheel of justice roll….

    To allow or not to allow gloria to travel is really up to the authorities to decide.

    They say (pro-gloria) it is inhumane not to allow gloria to seek medical treatment abroad. But there are question that needs to be answered. it’s like a Damocles sword on top of your head or damn if you do and damn if you don’t.

    De Lima already made known of her intent not to allow gloria to leave because according to her “there were some “discrepancies” between the medical abstract the Arroyo camp sent to justify her ADO request and the letter-affidavit they earlier submitted.’ De Lima even added “I cannot avoid being concerned that these countries have no existing extradition treaties with us,” she expressed concern over the Arroyo camp statement that she will have to seek treatment abroad “indefinitely.”

    “This is something we cannot afford to take… that they will dictate the duration of her absence,” De Lima said.

    “Indefinitely”, hmm… let me see, how can you seek medical treatment indefinitely? unless he or she is hiding under the cloak of “medical needs”. That is really fishy.

    It also mentioned that gloria’s request for ADO includes a number of entourage. My question is why a number of entourage?is she sending them to different countries to take care of their finances. In the case of lagay-man, este lagman, if he is willing to file an affidavit that he will go to jail if gloria does not return, that’s fine with me. bautista-horn, just take the name and she will hit you with the horn, is she a doctor?it seems that she is more knowledgeable than the doctors who knows best how to treat the sickness. the PMA already said that there are medical practitioner in the country for the kind of gloria’s sickness, yet “nagpapacute sya”. and of course, the NPC, i don’t know with this group, these NPC’s are idiot’s they are a very classic sample of balimbing or chameleon, whoever is in power they will shed skin to a new color just to adopt.

    And with Noy-Ab’s administration, if something happens to gloria’s health, baka mamaya magtututro na kasi kasalanan ni ganito at kasalanan ni ganyan. gobyerno turo-ng-turo

    Finally, baka naman drama lang yan at baka mamaya e ipakita nilang naghihingalo na si gloria para kaawaan sya.

    prans

  3. pranning pranning

    Additional…..

    The Arroyos invoked their constitutional right to travel in their petitions. In her 41-page suit, the former chief executive asked the high tribunal, to declare as unconstitutional Department Circular No. 41 which gives the DoJ the power to issue watchlist orders (WLOs) and hold departure order (HDOs).

    Di ba sya ang pumirma ng batas na yan???

    E kung hindi naman pala sya hunghang talaga e, batas na pinirmahan nya sasabihin nya illegal, samantala nung sya ang namamayagpag e legal yun, eng-eng…..

    As I said let the wheel of justice roll….. and it just keep on rolling and rolling and rolling……

    prans

  4. pranning pranning

    another one….

    “It is almost inconceivable how someone seeking emergency medical treatment would still have the strength and energy to travel or to choose travel to several countries, with the concomitant stress and exhaustion that such extensive international travel entails, unless, of course, the medical treatment Applicant (Mrs. Arroyo) seeks is not entirely necessary and urgent,” the order said.

    According to De Lima “This real danger of Applicant’s flight cannot simply be dismissed by her self-serving undertaking that she will return to face justice once her medical treatment is completed. The attainment of justice cannot depend on such flimsy guarantees.”

    Kala ko ba maysakit sya, bakit ang dami naman ng kanyang itinerary? yan ba ang may critical illness? nagtatanong lang po.

    prans

  5. MPRivera MPRivera

    ‘yan ang hirap sa tusong sinungaling na mang-aagaw at magnanakaw. walang hindi iisipin at gagawing dahilan upang makaiwas sa mga asuntong kinakaharap bunga ng pagmamalabis sa poder.

    sampung milyong trabahong drowing lamang pala ang palagi niyang bukambibig subalit ipinamamalimos sa pamahalaan ng ibang bansa kasabay ng pagbabandong gumaganda ang ekonomiya subalit umaasa lamang sa remittances ng mga OFWs.

    sari saring panloloko sa taong bayan kasabay ng panggigipit at pagpapakulong sa mga hindi masikmura ang malawakang katiwalian kabilang na ang pandaraya sa halalan upang manatili sa malakanyang.

    kabikabilang pagbibiyahe kasama ang sanrekwang alalay gayundin ang mga alagang aso (kasama pa yata pati mga ipis at surot) at tumutuloy sa walang kuwentang otel katulad ng Al Bourj (lang naman), kumakain sa “ordinaryong turo turo” at pinagkakasya ang halagang halos ISANG MILYON lang upang kahit paano ay mapawi ang kanilang gutom.

    hanggang sa huling sandaling pagbaluktot sa batas na mabago ang konstitusyon upang lumawig pa ang pananatili sa kapangyarihan at pagbili ng suporta sa mga katulad niya ay gahamang mga kapanalig kasama na ang mga alagad ng simbahang nagiging tikom ang mga bibig at pikit ang mga mata kapalit ng namumutok na mga sobre ng salapi.

    at ngayong namumunga na ang masamang punong kanyang itinanim ay gagawin ang lahat ng drama upang makaiwas sa pagsingaw ng baho ng kanyang mga kabulukan?

  6. MPRivera MPRivera

    “…The Philippine Constitution guarantees the right of every Filipino citizen…….”

    wasn’t it the SAME constitution gloria and her lap dogs tried to subvert during the almost one decade of her anomalous reign?

  7. Mike Mike

    Agree with Ms. Ellen! I remember what the Libyan’s did to Gadhafi when he was captured. They’re no different from the man they so despised. Animals!

  8. duane duane

    mb’s re: #7 – jake macasaet’s opinion makes sense.

  9. olan olan

    It just like saying batuhin mo ng tinapay ang taong bumato sayo ng bato! and after all those years, where did it lead us…nowhere since we become a pushover for others to abuse! I say send her to jail ny hearing her cases rightaway..problem is many in out judiciary/courts are dragging their feet giving her chances to flee using our laws!

  10. olan olan

    We should not allow Arroyo to rob us of our humanity.Let us not do unto Gloria what Gloria did unto us. – ellen

    Ate ellen..is it also letting her rob our humanity when we let her make a fool of our common sense and law by allowing her to seek medical treatment abroad and plus when she can have treatment here? why too much consideration to someone who commits many crimes against her own people?

  11. Tama na yang drama-drama. Si De Lima, nagmamatigas kay Gloria?

    Bandang huli, papayagan din yang lumipad. Bakit? Kasi hindi nila kayang tuparin yung pangako nung kampanyang ipakukulong nila si Putot. Mag se-self exile siya, babalik kung friendly na ang administrasyong nakaupo. Malinis ang kamay ni Noynoy kasi hindi naman napailalim ng batas niya si Gloria. Sori na lang.

    Naku, pwede ba?

    Asa pa kayo.

  12. Habang wala siya sa Pinas, nagprescribe na yung period para magsampa ng kasong pandaraya niya sa eleksyon. E yun pang ibang kaso, magpeprescribe rin siguro yun.

    Paano ngayon yan? Papayagan ninyo? Saka kayo iiyak pagdating sa huli? Sasabihin ninyo, Sinayang ni (kung sinong engot) yung pagkakataon samantalang ang tagal na panahon hinintay (SAMPUNG TAON!) tapos nung pwede na, pinalayas ninyo?

    “ay oo nga pala…” sabay kamot ng ulo.

    Wala talaga tayong kapupuntahan dito. Naku, alam naman nating peke yung sakit-sakitang pinalalaki lang ni Bautista-Horny. Mga diktador nga sa N. Africa/Middle East nagdidinig sa korte nang naka-stretcher dahil talagang malala ang sakit, itong meron lang stiff neck, palalayasin pa?

    ‘Tang nang loob!

  13. I propose Congress enacts a law that imposes the same penalty on a local doctor in cahoots with criminals that provides a suspect an invulnerable shield against the search for justice.

    For multiple offenses, the cumulative minimum punishment of the cases filed or about to be filed for a suspect proven to be feigning illness shall be equivalent and the same as that applied to the doctor/s and the hospital that maliciously confirms the false medical status as true.

    We cannot allow unverified claims of illness to shortcut our dispensation of justice, more so accept false or aggravated and exaggerated declarations of co-conspirators from the medical profession to stand in the way of our legal processes.

    Compassion can only work on a case-to-case basis.

    Humanitarianism is only for humans.

  14. duane duane

    The reason that “The Golden Rule” is applicable to man is to forewarn anybody of the consequences of his/her actions. Supposedly, there should be no argument or defense for it.

    It is the same as the law of physics: Every action is accompanied by a reaction of equal magnitude but opposite direction.

    Allowing a person to travel abroad for medical treatment is definitely correct, if that is the real and ultimate reason for travel. There are, however, so many “unknowns” in the equation. In management, you have to eliminate the “risks” or contain them if they cannot be entirely eliminated.

  15. parasabayan parasabayan

    Magaling ang mga diskarte niyang mga hoodlums na yan. Mas magaling pa sa mafia style. Once they are out of the country, maghabol na lang si “Juan” sa tambl mayor! They will just let the statues end and they are home free! Di ba ganyan din ang sistema ng mga nakaraang administration? Look, all of the crooks are still in power!

    Maraming mga pera yang mga yan na nanakaw sa kaban ng bayan. Kaya kaya nilang magbayad ng mga pinakamagaling na doctor sa ibang bansa. Kaya din nila ng “indefinite” stay at kahit na sa mga first class hotel at first class na reastaurant sila maglagi at kumain, they can spend the looted money all they want.

  16. parasabayan parasabayan

    Kung hindi masisiba ang magasawang fatso at pandak, I would say let them be treated in other countries but knowing how wily they are, HUWAG SILANG PAALISIN! Malaking pagkakamali ang paalisin ang mga kriminal na yan!

  17. Tedanz Tedanz

    “Bakit kaya biglang bumalik si Chief Justice gayong sa darating na linggo na ang laban? Ang hinala namin ay para siya ang magbigay ng TRO pabor sa mag-asawang Gloria Macapagal at Jose Miguel Arroyo laban sa Department of Justice.” — J. Macasaet

    At kung sakali man daw makalusot pa si Glorya dahil sa hindi maagang pagsasampa ng kaso dito sa mag-asawa ng gobyernong pnot …. may tawag daw silang taga Batangas diyan…… “tanga” … totot naman talaga di ba?
    At kung sakali mang hindi masampahan at makalusot ang mag-asawa …. diskarte na ni DeLima yan …. para makatakas ang among niyang si Glorya.

  18. florry florry

    ”We should not allow Arroyo to rob us of our humanity.Let us not do unto Gloria what Gloria did unto us”. -Ellen

    That’s very humane and Christian like.

    Right to travel is guaranteed in the constitution, and to follow that provision, the evil couple should be allowed to go. But still Noynoy has the last words in this case. In the meantime however, as always the case, keep his nose clean by letting Delima do the dirty job of deciding the fate of Gloria. He has a very bad habit of evading a decision-making as long and as much as possible just as what he did to the Luneta massacre investigation and the Marcos case by appointing Binay. Ultimately the final decision will come from him if Delima’s decision is not in line with what he has in mind. If Delima is smart and learned her lessons enough she should do a-Binay, throw back the case to the lap of Noynoy and for him to decide.

    November was the month highlighted by Noynoy to file cases against the Arroyos, but it looks like it will not happen. They even said that they will spend Christmas in jail, but it appears now that it’s just a pipe dream, that there are still no cases filed against them. It’s becoming clear by the day that the Arroyos will not go to jail as scheduled and may not even go to jail for the rest of their lives. How can you send them to jail if there are no cases filed against them? Thanks to the “generosity” of Noynoy and his government. There actions speak for themselves and are obviously pro-Gloria, na parang mas gusto na nilang lumayas dahil wala silang kaso at hindi nila kayang ipakulong ito. Kundi ba naman parang hindi nila alam ang kanilang ginagawa, parang mga pagong kung kumilos, puro daldal, puro slogans and no actions, and if ever they act or do something, mas madalas palpak pa.

  19. From Animca:

    Hi Ellen,

    This time di ako agree sa iyo.

    You very well know the arroyo’s plan to get away out of the nation’s persecution using their rights to search for a higher level of care. And you are willing to agree with it……what about the rights of the multiple people her administration severely abused? Your article suggested forgive and forget…. NO!

    This forgiving attitude is one of the weaknesses of our culture that is why foreigners and countrymen step down on our faces thinking they were higher than the nation’s body of law. The law exists but we cannot implement them. This is why other countries call our country lawless.

    May the Arroyo’s go to jail. May all his cronies from top to bottom be incarcerated. Let our nation show the world there is justice in our system. Hopefully the rest of the country will follow.

    The whole nation need to make up their minds.

    Animca

  20. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Talo si De Lima dito. There is no way that the Supreme Court will uphold her power, even if the Court were composed of Cory’s justices.

    Ang dapat ginawa ay nagdemanda, and ask for a hold departure order. Hindi naman kailangan non-bailable ang offense para makahingi ng hold departure order. A showing that the subject is a flight risk is enough.

    Alam ni De Lima yan. So why did she insist on holding a low card? Dahil trojan yan. Now, she can give the excuse that she did her best.

    Nandamay pa. Ibabato sa taas ang decision. Ipit ka AbNoy.

    Tama na kasi ang playstation, and wake up. Tanghali na. Singnipis na ng buhok mo ang mga palusot ng mga tropa mo, nagbubulag-bulagan ka pa.

  21. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    The RTC could have summoned the doctors to question them on their findings. That is something the DOJ cannot do. She has no power over the doctors; she can only invite them.

  22. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Gusto niyo ng gulangan? Do what GMA did to Michael Ray Aquino.

    Cancel her passport. Tignan ko lang kung makakabiyahe yan ng walang documento.

  23. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    Para sa akin, bilang isang mamamayang-TAO, mayroong right ang isang nilalang, as mandated sa Konstitusyon, ngunit, depende din sa Pag-KaTao ?..anong klase na TAO ?..kriminal..mandarambong…gumagamit lang ng ibang paraan o rason, na di totoo para, ipag-laban ang right o karapatang pang-Tao…marami naman ang naglalabasang patotoo na kayang, gamutin sa Pinas si GMA, at magiging insulto daw sa magagaling na Doktors na Pilipino ?..(tingnan na lang kung paano, ginagamot ang kasintahan ni late Ramgen,na halos basag na ang bungo, ngunit, kayang-kaya ng Pilipino doktors…kahanga-hanga, etc..)..Another, ang kayamanang Pidal-Arroyo ay sobra-sobra,na kumuha ng mga espesyalista sa ibang bansa, upang siya ay gamutin..at bakit ngayon lang, “pinag-tatagpi ang mga sakit-kara-ingan ni GMA “, na may mga kasong-plunder at election sabotahe ang naglalabasan..naka-pang-hihinala at very suspicious ang mga pag-papagamot sa ibang bansa na walang “repatriation” sa Pilipinas ?…Papaano kung natuloy ang Cha-Cha, at Parliamentary Government na pangarap niya noon, siguro, di siya mag-kakasakit ?…kailangan bigyan ng hustisya ang mga baluktot na pag-yurak sa Saligang Batas ng bansa…para tumino ang mamamayang Pilipino…lagi na lamang, habag-at-pagbibigay ng pagkakataong, pangTao, kahit na sobra-sobrang kasalanan ang ginawa ( plundering-ampatuans,treasons, na dapat harapin sa batas, at huwag takasan..bakit tatakas si Mike A..isa naman siyang magiting na abogado, mAgtangol siya, sa sarili, kung mali ang mga bintang-hinala sa kanila ?..)…Ipaglaban nila na sila ay walang kasalanan, at walang ginawang, pag-yurak sa Konstitusyon ng Bansa ?..kahit na nga sa bibliya,2-beses ding nagalit si Hesus Kristo, sa mga “masasamang Tao”..at bakit itong si GMA, ipinagtatangol pa ng mga CBCP na kasangkot sa biyaya na kanilang natangap, kahit na sa masamang paraan nanggaling ?..mataas pa ba sila sa 2-beses na pagkagalit ng taga-pagligtas ng mga Tao ?…Sana, ma-kunsyensa ang SC, at huwag silang mag-bigay ng TRO..dahil tiyak ang bayan ay magagalit din sa kanila, sa bandang huli…Let justice prevail in the Philippines through rightful DOJ-Ombudsman, at ng Pangulo ng bansa, mental set or attitudes, for HOPE and make the difference ( the old, the new admin )…enough is enough !..let the ” black and white ” come out, kung totoong may kulay ang tao, huwag ng palabuin sa pamamagitan ng mga “scripted na habag-o-awa “, mercy !..my thought for the good and the stability of the future generation. It is in the present time, that the future counts…tapusin na ang hunyangong kaugalian na nag papa-hina sa gobyerno ng bayang, Pilipinas..naluko na nga ang bansa sa 9-na-taon, ngayon, pagtatawanan pa sa buong mundo, na talagang, kayang lukuhin ang utak ng isang Pilipino ?..huwag naman !..

  24. And SnV, mahina ang kaso nila for electoral sabotage. talo sila doon.

    De Lima should attend to the plunder cases vs Gloria and company. DOJ has not filed a single plunder case vs Arroyo.

  25. Update: Arroyo barred from travel

    Former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, who is facing several cases of plunder and electoral sabotage, both nonbailable offenses punishable by life imprisonment, may start looking for local medical specialists to take care of her reportedly rare bone ailment.

    Invoking the primacy of national interest over individual rights, Justice Secretary Leila de Lima Tuesday slammed the door on Arroyo’s plan to seek medical treatment abroad.

    “My order is a denial of the request for an allow-departure order (ADO),” De Lima announced at a news briefing.

    She said she was not convinced that there was an exceptional reason or justification for the justice department to grant the request.

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/90633/arroyo-barred-from-travel

  26. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    This is where Carpio-Morales may come in, as the knight in shining armor, to help the playstation playing lad in distress.

    Her prosecutors will find probable cause, and file with the Sandigan.

    Baligtad na ang mundo. Babae ang sasalba sa clueless na lalaki, and the even more clueless tropa.

  27. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Saan galing yan litratong yan? Star Wars?

  28. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    Sa aking pana-naw, siguro, kusang inalis ni GMA ang ” death Sentence” sa mga bilango noon, at ginawang, ” for Life ” lamang..Isang paraan na mabubuhay pa, at di “electricution ” ang kasasapitan nila ?..

    Dapat gampanan ng mabuti ng DOJ ang tamang kaso, kung mayroong plunder or election sabotage. Mag-bobomirang sa kanila ang sisi ng taong bayan, sa halip na kina GMA o Pidal and company.Ito ang dapat, pag-isipan ng PNoy admin at ng DOJ..ika nga, turo ng isang “daliri”, tutuk sa kanila ang sisi ng apat-na-daliri..at huwag masyadong grandstanding. Gawin ang mga dapat na hakbang, na malayo sa sisihan ?..Kung mahihina ang mga kaso kay GMA, TRO ang bunto’t niyan..Gising na ginang bicolana, palakasin mo ang kaso, bumirang ang aabutin mo sa bandang huli, at sama ng loob ng bayan. Marami ka pa namang ambisyon, isa na maging senadora..

  29. Tedanz Tedanz

    Ano na nga ba ang nangyari sa bentahan ng elikopter? Di ba sinabi ni Carpio na binigyan niya ng isang linggo ang isang team na binuo niya para aralin itong kaso. Bakit di pa kinakasuhan itong si FG at iyong iba tungkol dito?

  30. parasabayan parasabayan

    SNV, akala ko nga eh sisisid siya sa ilalim ng dagat. Knowing how rotten this woman is, siguro kahit na nasa kabaong pa yan, I do not know if I will even look at her pathetic face! Nothing she and her husband will do will ever change my mind. Itapon na yan sa kulungan! Tama na ang mga “props” nila!

  31. chijap chijap

    If she is seriously sick, bakit di sya nagresign or file a medical leave as congresswoman or did she?

    Steve Jobs had to resign and he was known to be a workaholic.

    If she can afford to fly out with an entourage, then she can definitely afford to fly the specialist in.

    Remember, she said they are in the process of checkup. Di pa operation to. So the specialist can check her up here: kung gusto pa nya sa Amanpulo sila magcheckup, and when there is a need for operation yun we should not stop her from leaving for an operation. SPECIFIC.

    A note: someone said, the places she request to visit are places we don’t have extradition treaties. I am not certain if this is true.

  32. MPRivera MPRivera

    kapag pinukol ka ng bato, batuhin mo ng tinapay ayon sa kasabihan.

    at ayon naman sa bibliya katulad ng sinabi ni kristong kapag sinampal ka sa pisngi ay iharap mo pa ang kabila upang sampalin din.

    tama ‘yang mga kasabihang ‘yan.

    pero mas maige ang ganire: kapag pinukol ka ng bato ay batuhin mo ng tinapay na may palamang granda para wala nang babato uli sa iyo.

    kapag sinampal ka sa isang pisngi ay iharap mo ang kabila pero kapag sinampal ka uli ay habulin mo na ng taga, namimihasa na, eh.

    maaari pang mapatawad ang katulad ni hudas na matapos ipagkanulo si hesus sa halagang tatlumpung pirasong pilak ay abot langit ang pagsisisi at kinitil ang sariling buhay. pero sa mga katulad niyang si goyang, kanyang asawa, mga anak at kaalyadong nagtutulungtulong kung paano pa muling tatarantaduhin ang taong bayan ay kulang pa kahit ilang parusang kamatayan.

    mga hayup silang hindi pa nagsawa sa halos sampung taon ay patuloy pa rin tayong ginagago upang wala silang panagutan sa lahat ng kanilang mga kasalanan?

    paano na ‘yung mga nangamatay nang dilat sa gutom, ‘yung mga hindi man lang nakatikim ng gamot, ‘yung hanggang sa huling hibla ng hininga ay hindi nabasa ng tubig ang namumutok na mga labi bunga ng paghihikahos habang silang mga hinayupak ay naglilimayon at nagpapasarap sa ibang bansa at gumugugol ng limpak?

  33. MPRivera MPRivera

    letseng gloria, daming arteng alam gawin ngayon!

    para malaman kung talagang maysakit ay tanggalin ang mga kung ano anong support gadgets na ‘yan. kapag natanggal ang ulo ay katunayang maysakit nga ngunit hindi na kailangang ipagamot pa sa ibang bansa. tanggal na nga ulo, eh. mabubuhay pa ba ang wala ng karapatang mabuhay ng bruhang ‘yan?

    letse ka, gloria. hanggang sa huling sandali ng buhay mo sinungaling ka!

    dahil sa mga kasinungalingan mo, natapos at natapos ang kulang sampung taong pamamahala mo ay narito pa rin kami sa ibayong dagat upang manilbihan sapagkat walang natupad sa iyong mga ipinangako lalo na ‘yung SAMPUNG MILYONG trabahong INIASA mo rin lang pala sa mga foreign employers.

  34. jr jr

    GMA’s anguish is nothing in comparison to the pain and suffering of the poor & underprivileged, the unemployed who are struggling to live to feed her/his family, the veterans & widows whose pension doesn’t arrived on time delayed for several months. She cheated the election and All she has done in her term of presidency is building up her assets, embezzled public funds and while the rest of the country is in turmoil and She has neglected responsibilities in taking action of the Maguindanao Massacre. Don’t run away Gloria… Its time for you to face justice and justice for all.

  35. MPRivera MPRivera

    if she is no more fit to represent her constituents, why NOT RESIGN from congress citing health reasons? basing on that picture shown above, gloria is more a mentally ill than what her camp claims she is.

    it isn’t a sane person’s appearance.

    hindi na makukuha sa tapal tapal ‘yan. dapat tinatanikalaan na. naku, mahirap na baka makapangagat pa ‘yan.

    but in fairness, bagay sa kanya.

  36. duane duane

    Nakakaawa ang kalagayan ni gma dahil sa nakikita sa retrato?

    Dapat nga papurihan at matuwa sa kanya dahil meron siyang gadget na ginagamit.

    Ikumpara yan sa karamihan ng mga Pilipinong may sakit, ni hindi makabili ng “walker” kaya patpat na lang ang ginagamit na tungkod para makalakad!

  37. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Let’s not allow the Arroyos to make fools out of us.

    Don’t allow her to travel. We weren’t born yesterday. Her medical reason for travel is not that urgent.. and the places she plans to travel to are a dead give away that she is not coming back.

    We are fools to believe all that sh_t coming from the Arroyo camp. It’s been planned a long time ago as to how they’re going to escape from justice.

    We have to be smarter than a smart crook to jail that crook.

  38. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Let’s not allow the Arroyos to make fools out of us.

    Don’t allow her to travel. We weren’t born yesterday. Her medical reason for travel is not that urgent.. and the places she plans to travel to are a dead give away that she is not coming back.

    We are fools to believe all that sh_t coming from the Arroyo camp. It’s been planned a long time ago as to how they’re going to escape from justice.

    We have to be smarter than those crooks to jail those crooks.

    We have to be smarter than a smart crook to jail that crook.

  39. duane duane

    Ang retrato ang “still” version ng “I am sorry” video!

  40. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    I think kailangan din ng ” debate ” (say, 3-days -or 1-week), katulad ng ginawa sa RH-BILL- abortion law, ng TFC o GMA public forum…ang pag-pa-medical check up sa ibang bansa, at limiin-tingnan ang karamihang puntos, kung siya nga ay karapat-dapat sa kanyang TRO, na mangagaling sa SC..Huwag pakingan ang mga Liars-este-Lawyers na nagtatangol, dapat pakingan ang sentimyento ng Taong bayan, dahil ayun sa Saligang Batas, mamayan din ang maka-pangyarihan sa kabuo-ang Hustisya..This is a way to be smarter !..Get the mandate from the people, the true Justice for the medical Check Up of GMA to countries having no extradition with the Philippine government, to find out who is really defective ( the people or GMA and company ) !…

  41. Dilat-dilat ang mga mata! Esep-esep!

    Bakit sa bahay lang siya at ang nagiisyu ng medical condition ay si Elena Bautista-Horny?

    Kasi hindi na papayag ang mga doktor ng St. Luke’s dahil politika na itong labanan. Kung sa ospital, obligado ang doktor na magbigay ng medical bulletin na pwedeng beripikahin ng iba pang doktor.

    Handa na silang gastusan ang laban, si Estelito Mendoza na ang abugado ni Putot, tinadyakan na si Raul Lambino.

    Meron itong magic wand si Mendoza na sa isang kumpas lang, biglang nagbabago ang isip ng Supreme Court Justices. Kamakailan lang nagkabuhay uli yung kaso ng PAL na final and executory na may ilang taon nang nakaraan.

    Meron bang mga bayag doon sa Korte Suprema na hinahawakan si Titong kaya malakas ang loob niyang magpahinga muna sa mga kaso ni Kapitan Lucio at aasikasuhin ang mga kaso ni Donya Glorya? Hmmm…?

  42. Isa pang ebidensiya na ang pagpapagamot ay sekondaryong rason lamang kung bakit gustong lumayas ni Putot ay ito:

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/91099/aquino-offers-to-fly-in-medical-specialists-for-ex-president-arroyo

    Kanina lang, ni-reject na nila ang offer ni Noynoy sa presscon ni Bautista-Horny.

    Saka bakit limang bansa pa ang pupuntahan kung medical checkup lang naman pala? Second and third opinion siguro okey na pero, fourth and fifth?

    Isa pa, ang laki naman ng entourage niya, 15-20 people, kasama pa si Bagwoman Medy Poblador. Sino’ng malaking tao ang susuhulan at yung dummy account ni Poblador at marami pang iba ang iwi-withdraw? Anti-Money Laundering Council, tutukan yang si Poblador!

  43. Puro na lang Bautista ang laman ng balita.

    Emmanuel Bautista – Bagong Phil. Army Chief na anak ng inambush sa Patikul nung 70s ng MNLF na si Gen. Teodulo Bautista

    Ramgen Bautista, RJ Bautista, Ramona Bautista – magkakapatid na nagpapatayan sa pera ni Ramon Revilla

    Elena Bautista – spokeswoman ni Putot na nagpresscon kanina para ireject yung offer ni Noynoy na gagastusan ng gobyerno ang mga banyagang doktor na titingin kay Putot dito. Nagtatanong pa kung bakit ayaw maniwala ng gobyerno na babalik si Glorya sa Pinas.

    Aba e, kung di lang matrapik e susugurin ko siya saka ko sasabihan ng, “Gusto mong malaman kung bakit ayaw paniwalaan ang amo mo?”

    Sabay sampal. “I am sorry, pramis, sumpa ko yan sa puntod ni Jose Rizal”.

  44. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    I presume may diplomatic passport yan, dahil former president. But section 7 of the Philippine passport act states that said passport may be issued by the Secretary for “Diplomatic passport for persons imbued with diplomatic status or are on diplomatic mission such as:

    1. The President and former Presidents of the Republic of the Philippines;”

    Hindi naman diplomatic ang pakay ng biyahe, so cancel it, and let her apply for a regular passport. It takes two weeks for photos, so by then, may en banc session na ang SC. Also, dahil hindi diplomatic, she will need to apply for an EU visa.

    Don’t cancel it until Corona has issued the TRO. That way, may panibagong petition si Titong Mendoza. By the time Titong files it, may en banc na.

    Sasabihing persecution? So what. They expect people to play clean, so they are gaming the system. Parang terorista yan. Alam na hindi babaril ang military sa civilian, so ginagamit ang civilian bilang human shield.

  45. Tedanz Tedanz

    Bakit kaya ang daming nagsasalita tungkol sa kalagayan nitong si Glorya e di naman sila Doktor? Bakit tahimik yong mga Doktor na ipinagmamalaki niya sa St. Lukes kung kailangan talagang makita at masuri ng isang ispesyalista? Di ba nakapagtataka lahat ng ito? Bakit walang imik itong si Dra. Cervantes ng St. Lukes? Siguuro ayaw nilang mag-salita dahil kaya naman nilang gamutin itong si Glorya ….. gusto talaga nitong mag-asawa na magtago na sa ibang bansa dahil sa dami na ng kasong kanilang kinakasangkutan. Di kaya?

  46. jawo jawo

    Let’s not allow Arroyo to rob us of our humanity—–>Ellen

    Gloria had lived a life of lies. What makes anybody think she is about to tell the truth now ?

    Humanity is for the deserving. After she bastardized the whole country, its people, and its institutions, I, for one, puke at the thought that Gloria or any of her cohorts deserve compassion in any form. Let us not find the loopholes again just to let this bitch cheat the justice system. Let her go and we would have seen the last of her. The criminal mind is always one step ahead of its pursuers

    Ginago na niya tayo ng almost 10 years. Kung ga-gaguhin pa rin niya tayo ngayon, then we really deserve each other.

  47. chijap chijap

    @saxnviolin., i like the idea but they can always request expedited passport dahil nga urgent daw. And you are right: GMA is winning the game like a terrorist.

    @tongue, agree. Not only that, doctors have already said further checkup can be done here and even GMA’s doctors who said her condition is getting better.

    —–

    Today’s rejection as said by Horn of Palace’s offer because GMA wanted to uphold constitutional right. How ironic. GMA who has obviously betrayed our constitution now wants to use the constitution and wants to appear a defender of it?

    Kung totoo may sakit, take up the offer. Have the specialist fly in. Once the specialist say kailangan talaga sa “mayo clinic or a SPECIFIC clinic” then we can all agree to let her leave.

    We Filipinos have this saying: Kung gusto maraming paraan. Kung ayaw maraming dahilan.

    Obviously ayaw nila hindi makaalis ng bansa. Yun lang yun.

    Horn also choked earlier saying GMA was like a mother to her and she did not ask her to do any corrupt acts. Sometimes if its already a daily routine, people don’t see their actions are wrong anymore. Sa dalas nilang gawin yung mga illegal, sa tingin nila normal na yun. It shows how GMA runs her office during her term.

  48. From former PNP Chief Ramon Montano:

    Ellen, I read your column today. Let us not be like her who was so drunk with power and who lost all her humanity in her manipulation of the military, the police, the COMELEC, the Judiciary and other govt institutions to perpetuate herself in power.

    We who were victims of her tyranny want justice meted her but not at the expense of our humanity. God Bless! Mgen Ramon Montano Ret

  49. SnV said he is having difficulty accessing here. He asked me to post this:

    SaxnViolins:
    Having trouble with access. Below was the post I wanted to key in:

    I presume she has a diplomatic passport, pursuant to Section 7 of the Philippine passport act, granting the Secretary the power to issue diplomatic passports to those “imbued with diplomatic status”. The President can cancel the diplomatic passport, stating that he believes she has pending cases, that this may damage the image of the Philippines, blah blah blah.

    Can the SC TRO this? No. The conduct of foreign relations is the absolute prerogative of the executive.

    Bottom line, she will have to apply for a regular passport, and will have to wait the six weeks to get it.

    Meantime, madaliin na ang pagsampa ng demanda.

  50. olan olan

    while we dilly dally with the issue of GMA, many interest groups both foreign and local are falling in line to benefit from the mining industry in our country, especially southern philippines, for copper and other minerals, our national government should be transparent enough as to what to do when revenue start coming in to the treasury and how much? our laws should also address environment. I have no problem in mining but it just have to be done equitably and responsibly, only i don’t hear much from our national government what they are doing transparently and why many local government is holding up? at the end of day, this is revenue..lots of it!! i wish a good percentage will go to the people and maybe they can stop nickel and diming us using indirect taxation via toll road increases, service fees, fees left and right, etc. Imagine our national government taxing us on average 30% of our income plus many indirect taxes and VAT (typ for working employees) with no meaningful services, coupled with high electricity rate (no. 5 in the world), water, communication 9especially while calling from overseas to pinas to call love ones), with no major infrastructure improvement unless you pay to use toll roads, which they own, and now overly populated (no. 14 in the world) with no jobs…thanks to our very responsible government, especially GMA :(…, Note that Xstrata a big mining firm discovered copper mine in south Cotabato, estimated to be worth over a trillion US dollars…yes Trillion US!!! I hope this deal is not like the Malampaya venture when Philippines thru PNOC receive 10% while US Big Oil Chevron and Exxon have 45% each..hehehe

  51. Tedanz Tedanz

    Bakit hindi nawawala ang Germany sa mga gusto nilang puntahang mag-asawa? Di kaya ang mga nakaw nilang yaman ay nasa Bansang ito? Di ba puwedeng imbestigahan ng ating Gobyerno?

  52. Tedanz Tedanz

    Sabi ng tagapagsalita ni Glorya na … papano na lang daw kung gawin nila sa kanya o ako o sa inyo yong ginagawa nila kay Glorya … gaga talaga ang namputsang ito na paiyak-iyak pa …. di ba niya alam na maraming kasalanan ang nagawa ng kanyang Glorya sa sambayanang Pilipino? Kung ako ang si Glorya buti pang magpatiwakal na lang gaya ng ginawa ni Ex-Gen Reyes para matapos na ang kanyang paghihirap. Gusto pa niyang magpagaling ha para malakas niyang harapin ang mga kasalanang nagawa niya sa inyong Bansa …. o gusto pa niyang simsimin ang mga yaman na ninakaw nilang mag-asawa.

  53. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Kung totoo ang balita na ang sinabi ni PNOT na sagot niya ang gastos at dito lang mag pagamot si Arroyo para di takasan ang asusnto. Sino ang gagastos ang gobyerno natin or ang sariling pera ng mga Aquino’s na para kay Pandak. Hanep nag nakaw na ang tao at gagastusan mo pa. Hayaan mo umalis at mag lagay na lang ng electric bracelet sa paa. Na kapag balak putulin ang naka kabit sa paa ay makukureyente ng husto at dedo agad.
    Only in the Philippines kung sino ang nag nakaw ay siya pang ang nabibigyan ng biyaya lalo. Gagastusin ang pagamot hanep si PNOT… okey lang kung pera mo ,, pero kung pera ng bayan ay GAGO ka.

  54. parasabayan parasabayan

    The entourage the pandak wants to bring with her are the signatories to the bank accounts. Sundan sana ang mga yan kung sakaling makawala dhil hawak nila ang nakaw na pera ng bayan.

  55. parasabayan parasabayan

    When I broke my back a few years ago, meron din akong metal na jacket na katulad ng gamit ni pandak, sa likod ko nga lang nilalagay. What she is wearing can be taken down in less than a minute. Support lang yan ng leeg niya. Let us not be fooled by the looks of it! She can easily be without it! Hindi lang nag-make up kaya mukhang may sakit. She is deceitful, a con artist to the highest degree! I hope the Supreme Court will not allow her to leave so she and her family will face the charges against them.

  56. parasabayan parasabayan

    Ellen, yes, there is a problem with your blog. There are over 50 posts but when your blog is opened, only 19 show up. One has to be logged in to see all the other postings.

  57. parasabayan parasabayan

    The St Luke’s hospital doctors can not just volunteer their opinion. Ethics yan sa kanilang profession.

  58. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    Based from all the arguments, reasons-vis-a-vis,..the issue is a fight between “Good and Evil ” ( the people for good, and the evil for the deceits or deceivers, etc..) In this world its tough to fight the power of the negative-demonic attitudes, especially when they, these group of demonic people have submitted already their souls to the power of darkness. With all the deceits coming out from the camp of GMA, I think people, should start “to pray”, as what the Edsa-1 did, during the Martial Law era, with Cory Aquino, to find the rightful justice to the Luciferic activities done by distorting the Constitution of the Country. The arguments of the many anti-GMA were all sound good to the people,especially the statement of the retired Mgen. Montano. He can be re-activated to lead a movement for a change and make the difference, together with his patriotic flocks of good soldiers ( maybe Magdalo ?..are they sleeping ?.. or exhuasted already ?..). The scenario looks like survival of the Good-people, from the Bad and the Ugly non-patriotic citizen Filipinos, whose aim was purely Wealth and earthly powers..Where are the “nuns or sisters who protected the whistle blowers, and the pro-Cardinal Sin followers. They should be invited for a debate to smoothen and find the rightful justice for all..Should a JURY SYSTEM been applied in the country, things about justice had been shorter and quick ( check or read about the Doc. Murray who was found out guilty, in the death of M.Jackson ). This is all about “people’s Justice”, not the elite group, whose wealth was plundering, etc..My trend of thought !..

  59. Jojo Jojo

    Gloria,,butata ka ngayon. Ang inimbento mong watch list ay sa iyo ngayon ginagamit. Tama ang sabi ni Erap. Weder weder lang yan. Naunahan ka pa ni Ramona sa pag iskapo. Na ngayon ay nasa Istambul na.

  60. parasabayan parasabayan

    Gamitan ng spy camera yan! Kung walang photo ops, wala yang metal brace niya!

  61. jawo jawo

    President Benigno Aquino III on Wednesday offered to fly in medical specialists to look into her condition, at government expense.——-> Philippine Daily Inquirer

    Okay (sana) ito ! Kaya lang, bakit naman “AT GOVERNMENT EXPENSE” ? Eto’t gagastusan nila ang gagawin (sana) nilang pagtakas, tapos, sasagutin daw ng gobiyerno ang lahat ng gastos ni Gloria para papuntahin sa Pinas ang pinaka-dalubhasang doktor (o mga doktor) na titingin kay bubuwit to justify the government’s decision not to allow her and her entourage to leave. If the decision not to let her leave is the government’s decision, that’s it !! Why this special “fringe benefits” for her ? Let herself get the best doctors she needs and bring all of them over to the Philippines “at HER expense”. Kung kaya niyang gastusan ang pagtakas niya, kaya niyang gastusan ang mga espesialista niya. She will be spending money to see the best doctors to cure her. Let that same money be used to let them go the Philippines to see her. Tutal, what she stole are ALL government money anyway. So ano’ng governemnt money ang gustong itulong ni Penoy para huwag lang umalis si Goyang ?

  62. parasabayan parasabayan

    Hindi ako nadadala sa paawa effect niyan! Naawa ba siya sa mga taong pinahirapan niya? Yung mga ikinulong niya na nangamatay pa ang kapamilya dahil sa sama ng loob sa kahihinatnan ng mga asawa nila? Sa mga anak ng mga ikinulong niya na hindi na kilala ang mga tatay nila dahil sa pagkakulong? All in the name of her “STOLEN POWER”!

  63. chijap chijap

    To Elena Bautista Horn:

    The Justice Department Circular No. 41 of which De Lima has said on the record is what her basis is, was authorized during the GMA period.

    It was GMA’s DOJ secretary who made the circular. So if GMA is turning to be a Constitutional Rights advocate, why is that GMA-era Circular made? Because she suddenly have a change of heart?

    De Lima said it on TV: Kung under the GMA period, the circular is constitutional; now that its being applied to her, hindi na?

    Ellen,

    I agree we should not turn to become the very animals we are trying to cage or train. But if she treats us like animals, if she bites us back like an animal, she should not be given the courtesy of being treating better than us. Paluin na yan dahil kailangan na.

    Aquino’s proposal of getting the specialist into the country is very hospitable (too hospitable if you ask me) but a win-win nevertheless. Her camp rejecting it, and accusing it of all things treacherous, is showing us she are treating us like idiots. Kinakagat na nya ang kamay natin tulad ng isang hayop.

    Lets not be idiots.

    And yes, most of us are passionate about her getting to be accountable kaya baka kulang na tayo sa awa; but in our defense, we haven’t put her at the stake yet, have we not? Di pa natin sya kinulong mala-Martial Law era without a trial, nor was abducted because you were about to testify about the NBN deal. WE treated her and her family respectfully, in spite of the obvious activities she and her husband has done.

    Tama na yung compassion. Our fault is that. Lagi na lang tayo naawa. We let offenders scot-free because they look pitiful. No one is being an example.

    What we all failed to realized, tayo yung kawawa. Hindi sya.

    Ang tingin ko nito, she will allowed to leave and will never come back. And that did happen, hopefully the Supreme Court would understand they will have to face the wrath of the people. They would have to be held accountable for that.

  64. bayong bayong

    erap nawala sa puwesto nagkasakit, putot natapos termino may sakit din. ano kaya ang magiging sakit ni bondjing kapag natapos na ang termino ng pagka-pangulo.

  65. chijap chijap

    May i also point out, that when ERAP was kicked out, ERAP said he was offered by the GMA government to leave the country to escape all the problems he will be facing under Gloria’s term.

    Erap said no.

    But that’s not my point. My point was: GMA’s solution to all problem is leaving the country. No more accountability.

    History is a good guide on what future may hold.

  66. florry florry

    If Gloria wins her case, Noynoy can only blame himself and his not so bright advisers for their incompetence. They have been there for almost two years and were not able to develop a case inspite of unlimited resources at their disposal.

    While it’s true that they banned her from travel abroad, they were just too naïve as stupids are not to consider that they will be challenged in court and without any basis for the ban their case is as good as dead. Now if they really are serious in preventing her, they have to act fast and quick, provide a basis for the ban, otherwise it would seemed that since the beginning, their inaction is deliberate to set Gloria free from all accountabilities, and all the dramas going on are just a show to entertain the people.

    The way I see it, if Noynoy and company remain idle, do nothing but all talk and talk, the SC will uphold the constitution and let Gloria go. If Noynoy and his government are really serious in not allowing Gloria, but let go by the court, what will they do about it?

  67. patria adorada patria adorada

    ACTION!ACTION!puros na lang dada!!

  68. Tedanz Tedanz

    #68 “ano kaya ang magiging sakit ni bondjing kapag natapos na ang termino ng pagka-pangulo.” — bayong

    Sakit sa tak-u adre. 🙁

  69. Tedanz Tedanz

    Tama naman si Chiz Escudero sa sinabi niyang sa dinami daming kaso na inakyat sa DOJ at Ombudsman ni isa man walang umusad … tanong …. bakit nga kaya? Pakisagot lang po Ms. DeLima. Sino ba ang protektor ni Glorya … ikaw ba o si Pnot?

  70. ernest ernest

    Tatakas lang ang mga walanghiya!!! no no no they told us “daw” the truth. Puro sinungaling ang mga iyan, mula pa ng mga bata, kaya nga di tumangkad e.

  71. Mike Mike

    The rule of law should be followed, hindi pwede nalang puro short cut. Yan ang ginawa ni pandak nuon, binaboy ang batas ng Pilipinas kaya nagka leche-leche ang bayan natin.
    May duda na nga talaga ako kay De Singko, lahat ng kilos niya parang pumapabor kay pandak.
    Di ako magtataka kapag pinaboran ng SC ang petition ng magasawang Pidal. In the first place, di talaga pwedeng ang DOJ ang mag desisyon ukol sa karapatan ng sinuman upang malayang makapaglakbay.

  72. Mike Mike

    Pag ibinasura ng SC ang petition ng magaswang PIdal, ito’y magiging bad precedent at pwedeng gawin sa kahit sino man na sa tingin ng administration ay kaaway nila sa politika.

  73. Mike Mike

    #28

    SNV, galaing sa Willy Wonka. Version ni Johnny Depp. 😛

  74. Mike Mike

    #67

    Chijap, that’s precisely my point. Circular no. 41 is unconstitutional. Why would they use this circular if it’s unconstitutional? This can be contested in the SC IMHO.

    Marami ng binaluktot na batas ang rehumeng Gloria. Bakit pa natin ipagpapatuloy ang kabaluktutan ng dating administrasyon samantalang ang gusto ng karamihan ay tuwid na daan?

  75. chijap chijap

    Because its not unconstitutional. Not until the SC says so. At naging unconstitutional na lang when GMA got stuck with her own doing.

    and Because sometimes to fight fire, you sometimes need to setup fire (Controlled Burn).

  76. Mike Mike

    Nuong pinalabas ni Goyang yung Circ. 41, nagreklamo ang mga tiga oposisyon nuon at ang kanilang sinasabi ay ito ay mali at unconstitutional. Ngayon ang karamihan ng tiga oposisyon nuon ay nasa posisyon na. Ang nirereklamo nilang mali nuon ay siyang ginagamit nila ngayon.

    Katulad ng aking sinabi, hindi natin pwedeng gamitin ang bulok na sistema na ginamit ni pandak kung tuwid na landas ang gusto nating tahakin. Kung susundin pa rin natin ang mali ng nakaraan, wala sigurong pagasa pa upang tayo ay umasenso.

    Isang halimbawa nalang, kapag ang isang tao ay pumatay, diba’t siya ay ating dadalhin sa korte para sampahan ng kasong pagpatay? Di ba’t bawal sa batas ang gumanti at patayin din ang salarin? Diba’t tayo ay dapat sumunod lang kung ano ang nakasaad sa batas? Kung gumanti tayo at pinatay natin ang salarin, di tayo naiiba sa isang kriminal. Hindi natin pwedeng ilagay sa sarili nating kamay ang batas.

  77. Dr.Kwak Dr.Kwak

    let the former Pangulong Gloria Macapagal Arroyo rot in jail if found guilty of her alleged crimes. but to deny her of travel abroad to seek for what she may think as a credible treatment for her illness is just being unchristian. the fear she will not come back anymore to face her cases and accussers as the reason for denying her the freedom to go is to me a little bit shallow. gloria arroyo though se maybe perceived as a liar is not the type to abandon her homeland and hide somewhere slse to save her skin. Let her go and once she is well and fit to go to the court then prosecute her till found guilty if really the evidences are strong enough to convict her.

  78. Mike Mike

    #80
    “…gloria arroyo though se maybe perceived as a liar is not the type to abandon her homeland and hide somewhere…”

    That’s highly debatable. 😛

    Oh wait, she is a congentital liar. 😛

  79. parasabayan parasabayan

    Dr Kwak, pag pinayagang umalis ng bansa si pandak, hindi na yan babalik hanggat may bagong presidente, yung kayang kaya nilang paikutin! Litisin muna ang mga kaso niya. Kung wala siyang kasalanan eh di kahit saan niya gustong pumunta! For now she absolutely can not leave!!!!!!!

  80. chijap chijap

    #79

    We are not doing “an eye for an eye” here. We simply gave GMA a dose of her own medicine.

    Keep in mind we are not killing her. Nor are we putting her in jail. In fact the current government offered a win-win situation, we bring the doctors in. Her camp obviously want one thing: to leave the country.

    (Side comment: buti pa si Erap, he was offered to leave, he said he will stay to face his charges, maski may karamdaman din sya)

    We are not treating GMA the same she treated the nation, we did not cheat her of any of her rights. And that includes her right to leave. And since it was her government that said the DOJ has that right, then its well within the constitution to use it against her, again until the Supreme Court says otherwise.

    Ang ironic lang, it was her government who made it legal, and now she’s complaining its illegal? Think about it. Why should we fall for her definitions?

    In another blog, a poster quoted this well timed saying: http://www.quotes.net/quote/6263

  81. MPRivera MPRivera

    sa hitsura ni gloria sa itaas naaawa tuloy ako.

    meron kayang mauupahan upang patayin na ‘yang bruhang ‘yan?

    para matapos na ‘yang paawa epek ng leche con todo arte na ‘yan!

  82. Bakit hindi nawawala ang Germany sa mga gusto nilang puntahang mag-asawa? Di kaya ang mga nakaw nilang yaman ay nasa Bansang ito? – Tedanz

    Pag nasa Germany ka na, lalo’t sa southern part gaya ng Munich, mahihilo kung sinuman ang bubuntot na ahente ng NBI o PNP sa mga nasa entourage ni Putot. Sinadya talagang marami ang bibiyahe para iligaw ang mga bantay.

    Sa Munich airport pa lang, pwede nang maghiwa-hiwalay ang mga bagmen para sumakay ng eroplano papunta ng mga kalapit na bansang kilalang taguan ng kwarta ng mga sindikato gaya ng Liechstenstein, Austria, Italy, Czech Republic at siyempre pa, sa Switzerland. O sa loob na rin ng Germany mismo.

    Pwede rin doong sumakay ng rapid train papunta sa mga bansang yan.

    Pwede ring decoy lang yung iba hanggang makarating sa bangko sa Spain o Monaco.

    Mahirap tutukan yan ng man-to-man, mangangailangan ng mga 50 operatives para walang kawala ang magsasalin ng kwarta. Sa dami niyang operatives na yan, malayo pa, sunog na operasyon nila. Isa pa nandoon na yata si Iggy Pidal bilang advance party.

  83. duane duane

    hangang ngayon pinagloloko pa rin tayo ni gloria at mga galamay niya. 3kg daw ang bigat ng steel brace niya.

    3kg? may aluminium at titanium na po at “hallow” o hindi solid na metal ang gingawang brace. imbes na gumaling, lalo lang lalala ang sakit kung ganun. baka galit din yung duktor kaya ganun kabigat ang nilagay.

  84. I’m not sure if it was intentional or not, maybe we don’t take much time to seriously analyze Noynoy’s moves, but I have to give credit to the guy who thought out the plan to offer to bring in the doctors from five countries who will do the check up. Surely Gloria would reject it, they can’t name any names just yet. BECAUSE THERE IS NONE.

    Contrary to most reactions, I find it clever: Gloria has no doctors as of yet, let alone be able to convince some famous doctor abroad who would abide by the GMA playbook and not look stupid being made top VIP due to a national issue and for a non life-threatening illness.

    This quarter of the game, I give to Team Noynoy, 1-0.

  85. Ang ironic lang, it was her government who made it legal, and now she’s complaining its illegal? Think about it. Why should we fall for her definitions? – chijap

    I agree, chijap, with all my 21 thumbs pointing up.

    “What is sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander”.

  86. Manresa Manresa

    “What we are saying in effect is that the request or demand of the Marcoses to be allowed to return to the Philippines cannot be considered in the light solely of the constitutional provisions guaranteeing liberty of abode and the right to travel, subject to certain exceptions, or of case law which clearly never contemplated situations even remotely similar to the present one. It must be treated as a matter that is appropriately addressed to those residual unstated powers of the President which are implicit in and correlative to the paramount duty residing in that office to safeguard and protect general welfare. In that context, such request or demand should submit to the exercise of a broader discretion on the part of the President to determine whether it must be granted or denied.”

    SC Majority Ruling
    Marcos vs. Manglapus (15 Sep. 1989)

  87. Tedanz Tedanz

    Ibig sabihin dito yong command central o dito mismo nakatago ang ninakaw ng Mafia’ng Arroyo. Wow!!!! Kapal talaga ng mukha ng mag-asawang ito …. nakakasuka.
    Ellen, dito naman kay DeLima wala ba siyang sagot kung bakit wala pa ni isang kaso nitong mag-asawa ang pinalusot sa kanyang opisina? Baka eto na siguro ang puwede niyang maitulong sa amo niyang si Glorya … yong maka-alis at magtago na lang sila sa Dominican Republic. Di kaya????
    Aanga-anga kasi ang bondjing kaya eto pinag-lalaruan ang mga tao niya.

  88. rabbit rabbit

    compassion??thats only for honoreable man and woman.
    she doesnt even deserve a pity..
    bakit bigla nalng nakasakit??
    scripted na lahat yan.. from running as congresswoman to being sick
    nag paptapang tapang lang yan…
    never thought that things will have acted so fast in having her wrong doings being buking
    TO THE DUNGEON WITH HER and everyone thats with her..
    sayang ka..elena bautista…defending a pretender..where is your brain,,hope its still up where it should be

  89. Mike Mike

    #84

    chijap,

    My point is about the rule of law, and not about Gloria. And to be frank, I don’t really give a damn about what will happen to Gloria whether she becomes paralyzed or dies. She deserves it anyway.

    If we allow the present administration to use the circular 41 as basis to stop Gloria et. al. to leave the country, it would become a bad precedent. It would become the basis not only for PNoy but for future presidents to use this to suppress the freedom to travel of whoever they perceived as their political enemies.

    There are other ways to stop them from leaving the country legally, and one of them is to immediately file a criminal case against the Pidal couple. The problem with the DOJ is that she seemed to be dilly dallying with the cases and talks too much without really exerting enough effort to file the cases.
    What I’m afraid of is that the petition of the Pidals will be ruled favorably by the SC since the DOJ order is illegal.

  90. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    The Arroyos are making us look like a bunch of fools and idiots. And we allow them to do it to us. I say un-sheath the weapon they brandished in their time and use it against them. You don’t play goody-goody with these evil hearts. They’re gangsters of the worst kind. Can’t you hear them snickering?

  91. If Corona won’t wait for the en banc which resumes on Monday and grants GMA the TRO on the WLO/HDO late in the day all by himself, the Arroyos will immediately flee. This is a weekend and any business, including mobilizing immigration agents to prevent the family’s departure will only be possible on Monday.

    By then, the Pig and his piglets will already be sipping champagne on the beaches of Boca Chica, Dominican Republic – the top sex destination in all of the Caribbean, where prostitution is technically legal, with the Dominicans, whether mulatta or black, being the 4th most trafficked women in the world behind Brazil, Thailand and…dyaran…Philippines!

  92. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Ten Years binaboy ang batas at ginago ang bansa natin. Hanggang ngayon ay ganoon pa rin at etong mga naka upo ngayon ay wala naman kakayahan mag usig sa mag asawang arroyo sampu ng mga galamay at hanggang ngayon puro sat sat lang. Engot ang presidente at engot rin ang mga nilagay sa puwesto.

    Tama na at mahabang panahon na nag dudusa ang bansa natin. BAKIT hanggang ngayon ay wala pang nasasampa ni isang man lang kaso sa mag asawa. BAkit. Hindi pa rin nag babago ang bansa natin. Sa kabilang dako ay tatawa lang ang mag asawa sa atin. Gago kasi ang pumalit sa kanya eh….

  93. jawo jawo

    Sa mga Arroyo. angkop-na-angkop ang kasabihan na “nakaka-inis na buhayin,…..nakaka-awang patayin”.
    Kung matatalo na naman tayo sa labanan na ito, I’d say, huwag na natin silang kaawaan………..need I say more ?

  94. jawo jawo

    ASYLUM pala ang hanap nitong mga magnanakaw na ito, eh bakit lalayo pa sila ? Diyan lang sa Mandaluyong eh merong mental asylum, hindi pa malalayo nang gaano si Gloria sa kanyang mga kabalen na ni-rerepresentahan niya.

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