Former President Gloria Arroyo is now under arrest for the unbailable crime of electoral sabotage.
Electoral sabotage case vs Gloria Arroyo
The warrant of arrest, issued by Judge Jesus Mupas of the Pasay City Regional Trial Court, was served at 6:30 p.m. Friday by members of the Philippine National Police seven hours after the Commission on Elections filed electoral sabotage charges in connection with the 2007 elections against Arroyo, former Maguindanao governor Andal Ampatuan Sr. and former Comelec election supervisor Lintang Bedol before the Pasay City RTC.
Comelec Spokesman James Jimenez said former Comelec Chair Benjamin Abalos and Capt. Peter Reyes of the Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines will be filed on Monday.
Arroyo’s husband, Mike Arroyo, was investigated in connection with fraud in the same election but was dropped from the charge sheet for insufficiency of evidence.
The information filed states that on or before May 14, 2007, Arroyo, Ampatuan, and Bedol “conspiring, confederating, and willfully helping one another in order to ensure a ’12-0’ victory for the candidates of ‘Team Unity’ did then and there willfully, feloniously and unlawfully tamper the Provincial Certificates of Canvass of Votes” in Maguindanao.
The information said this was done after a meeting in Malacanang by the three a few days before election where Arroyo personally instructed Ampatuan to ensure a “12-0” victory form candidates of Team Unity.
Ampatuan, in turn, the Information further stated, instructed Bedol , then the chairman of the Provincial Board of Canvassers in Maguindanao, to tamper the provincial certificate of canvass (PCOC), statement of votes by municipality (SOVM) , summary of the statement of vote (SSOV).
Electoral sabotage is punishable by life imprisonment.
The arrest warrant was served at the St Luke’s Hospital where Arroyo is confined. She had undergone three surgeries r5elated to hypothyroidism.
Justice Secretary de Lima said President Aquino said they will not oppose if the court decides on hospital or house arrest for Arroyo.
(reposting)
I am bothered by midas marquez’s tone.
He is doing everything in so many words to convolute the issue while just barely hinting that: 1. the TRO is in effect, no matter the insufficient compliance from arroyo, specifically topacio; 2. while TRO is in effect, it is a different matter together the effects of the charges on Paranaque RTC, which effectively bars gloria arroyo from traveling (if it were even possible not state this – Gloria being barred from travel – I guess Marquez would not have done so). At the same time, he is forceful and unequivocal in stating that de Lima MUST comply and show cause (insert boring legalspeak here blablabla…)
Is it difficult to state that the the criminal case filed on the Paranaque RTC bars Arroyo from leaving the country? Why the hesitation to be direct about it. Isn’t the SC supposed to be neutral? Why does it tiptoe in declaring statements contrary to the interest of Arroyo, while direct, even accusative towards the executive branch, especially de Lima?
In no particular order of significance, I want to ask these layman questions(snv, tongue, and others if you could please respond, thanks):
1. Given that a part of the conditions of the TRO (in Marques words, “only the word ‘receive’”) was not complied with, is the TRO still in effect, only by virtue of a vote among the Justices?
2. In relation to the above, can any decisions by the Supreme Justices, be in effect, even though it does not meet the textual/technical/material conditions provided by the law, but by mere credit of a vote among said justices?
3. Will this specific experience with the TRO-in-effect-despite-insufficient-compliance set a precedent in future decisions?
4. Can the government still file charges against arroyo pertaining to the garci 2004 elections? How will the result of this “2007 election sabotage” case affect the proposed garci case in the future? (Honestly, I am praying to all the gods and dieties that de Lima better not be a trojan, and, more importantly, they have something more substantial as evidence than arroyo’s careless whisper to a election operator to make them win 12-0.)
5. Although this did not happen earlier due to the WoA, if in the future a similar situation occurs and provides arroyo a window to escape amidst the legal confusion, what power does the government have to bring her back?
Midas touch? or Midas mouth.
About time! Long overdue. Kung dati pa naisampa na ang mga kaso laban kay Gloria eh di wala na sanang problema tungkol sa DC41 na yan. DC41 is a monster created by Gloria herself which came back to haunt her.
I hope the SC will declare that DC41 unconstitutional so that it cannot be used and abused by future presidents.
Mabulok sana si Gloria et al sa kulungan para di na maulit o gayahin ng iba pang may balak gumawa ng kataranta**** sa gobyerno.
I’m still wondering why the hell did Gloria create DC41 when she has only a few days left of her term as president??? Knowing Gloria, she always has something up her sleeve. A sinister plot maybe? Good thing her sleeve is not long enough to cover up her evil plans. 😀
Ang masaklap dito kahit mapatunayang nagkasala si putot hanggang hospital or house arrest lng ang parusa sa kanya at pagkatapos ng termino ng kasalukuyang presidente maaring bigyan na yan ng presidential pardon…hays paanu magkakaroon ng tamang hustisya dito.I just hope the court won’t accept this scenario,they must put Arroyo to where she rightly belongs, the ‘Bilibid prisons’.By then,makakaganti na kahit paanu ung mga pinakulong nya ng walang due process.So what kung may sakit man siya? So what kung nakabrace man leeg nya?dapat malaman din nya kung gaanu kasakit ‘yung ginawa nya sa mga ipinakulong nya sa kanyang nakaw na panunungkulan.
Kasalanan ng mga abugado ni Arroyo iyan kaya na isyuhan ng warrant of arrest si Gloria. Kung hindi sana sila ng file ng TRO sa SC court at kung hindi sana ng issue ang otso otso ng TRO malaya pa si Gloria ngayon at tulog pa si De Lima at Billantes sa pag file ng kasong Electoral sabotage.Ayan tuloy mas matigas pa si Mudas sa walong SC justices, warrant of arrest kaagad ang ipinalabas. Sino ngayon ang BIDA? Sunod sunod na iyan sa mga nag sabotahe ng election noong 2004 at 2007. Puro warrant of arrest na iyang ipalabas ng huwes,Non-Bailable pa naman iyang Electoral Sabotage at magburo sila ng itlog sa kulungan.
Warrant of Arrest na silang lahat at iburo sa kulungan saka na lang sila bistahan after 4 yrs.
YES!!!
Medyo nabawi ang doubts. Congratulations to De Lima and Noynoy na at least nakaabot tayo dito inspite of the apparent bungling and slow pace at the start. The battle is not over.
I reserve my full congratulations until the Arroyos are clamped in jail. Build a special jail if need be. But jail them.
No house arrest.. it’s like taking a rest and recreation. Is that justice? That is idiocy.
Place the Arroyos on mere house arrest and they will have all the time to receive all those gangland characters hovering around them. Plotting their every move to take over power once again.. and take their vengeance on all those that have “hurt” them.
They’ve got billions still to mobilize.
Sa aking pananaw, “oras-hinog na para mangyari” ang dapat mangyari. This is GOD’s time, that came rightly ( time, places and decisions,friends,companions and Laws.. ). The SC-TRO became the triggering current-document ( as proposed by the GMA lawyers camp, etc..). Kung wala pa ang TRO, siguro,maligaya pa sila ngayon, na malayo sa kasong tawag ay kriminal,dahil sa aristong nangyari, at gwardyado pa ng mga PNP..Siguro, natutulog pa, at hihinay-hinay pa sa ngayon sina, Pangulong PNOY,DOJ at Comelect. Mabuti naman at dahil sa SC-TRO, natuluyang magkaroon ng kaso si GMA..Ano kaya ang hinihintay noon ng DOJ at ni Brillantes ?..Ng magkahiyaan na at kasubuan sa karangalan, saka lang sila nagkaroon ng madaliang pagkilos, na sana, ginawa noon pa. Anyway, its better late, than never, ngunit, kamuntik ng maka-lusot, gabuhok, hibla ang deperensya, ang nangyari sana ay Bye !..Bye !..Philippines, hanggan sa muling pagkikita ( after 2016 )..tsktsktsk..so we need to appreciate also, the other side ( point )of the TRO through the SC votes of 8-5,then after ( because they have seen the justifiable reasons, later. ), it was reversed to 7-5..my worth of analysis..
2007 Senatorial Election lang iyan na kinasuhan ng Electoral Sabotage. Hindi pa kasali ang 2004 Presidential election, madadawit na si FG diyan kung masampahan sila uli ng kaso, iyung helicopter niyang ginamit na ipinagbili sa PNP.Iyan ang hinihinaty ng tao iyung dinaya nila si FPJ.Dulce lang pala iyang isinampang kaso ng comelec sa Pasay RTC wala iyung main course.Na confined daw si Abalos sa hospital, sunud sunuran na yata silang nagkakasakit lahat ng akusado.
Welcome back Cocoy! Wala na yung 2004 kasi wala na sa statute kaya nga lang kung ang basehan ay yung pagkatapos ng termino niya, pwede pa. Maybe SNV can answer this. Kasi yata yung 2007 laws ang mas mababigat ang kaparusahan.
Hindi life threatening iyang sakit ni Gloria, over reacted lang sila, ganyan din ang problema, i have multiple cervical disc rupture with radiculopathy in both arms, naipit ang ugat kaya walang masyadong power ang dalawang kamay ko. Vicodine lang ang katapat niyan at Physical therapy.May option ka naman diyan pa opera ka at lagyan nila ng titanum disc o hindi.Nakausap ko na ang magagaling na orthopedic doctors sa Beverly Hills at ang operation diyan is not sure na gagaling ka.There’s a risk of infection and fail of fusion kaya operahan ka na naman uli pag nagka problema kaya mas mabuti pang hindi na mag pa surgery.Arte lang iyun brace niya, hindi nila ginagawa ang ganyan dito liban lang kung talagang bali ng tuluyan ang buto mo sa leeg. Natatawa nga ang doctor ko ng ipakita ko sa kanya ang picture ni Aling Gloria na may panglaw na metal.
Hindi na pala maungkat ang “Hello Garci” Kung ganun PSB.
Ganyan din ang nangyari kay “Superman” Nahulog siya sa kabayo at nabali ang leeg niya kaya tuluyan siyang naparalyze.Hindi naman yata nabali ang leeg ni Gloria ng inihulog siya ni Penoy sa Malacanang.
Mas mabigat ang parusa sa 2007 Election sabotage. Gusto ko nga rin na maungkat yung 2004 ulit kasi nandyan ang mga mandarayang heneral. They too should be punished because they were in cahoots with pandak in the election cheating. Kung tutuusin mas buking na buking si pandak noong 2004 dahil sa “Hello Garci” kaya nga lang sanitized na ang mga ebidensiya.
Nag suicide pala si Col.Rafael Santiago ng nag execute siya ng affidavit na nagkaroon ng ER switching sa Batasan.
Nabali din ang vertebrae ko Cocoy at nag metal brace din ako for a while. Kaya kapag nakikita ko si pandak with the brace I remember my heavy brace din. Hindi madali. But she will get better and she can not use that brace to feign sickness forever! In court, her real medical condition will be unmasked. Mabuti naman.
psb, cocoy,
I have a very close relative who underwent operation 3 days ago for the same condition in the same hospital. Like cocoy, he complains of numbness in both arms. Successful naman ang operation, kaya lang medyo naiinis sa inconvenience sa security ng hospital dahil nga diyan sa VIP patient na yan kaya ililipat today sa Asian Hospital. All they are preventing is the body systems’ rejection of the foreign materials which could lead to infection. He is now recovering and will stay at Asian for 5 more days.
Hindi pala talaga life threatening.
Marahil, natuto sa experience nila kay Putot kaya naging mas maingat ang mga doktor sa kaso ng pinsan ko. Sa wakas napakinabangan din ang hinayupak na Putot, kahit paano.
Gumawa sila ng sakit para kay Gloria. Yung ungas naman, kinondisyun yung utak na masakit iyon at delikado sa buhay.
Nagmamadaling lumabas para kapag may kaso ng naisampa laban sa kanya, mag sabi sa bansa kung saan siya nandun “persecuted sila”. Nagpakita ng yagbols yung DOJ Sec., nagbago ng tono ang SC, ayun, may warrant of arrest na.
May nakapansin nga kay Gloria; kung masakit yung kalagayan niya, bakit siya nakangiti? Drama lang para kaawaan siya ng madla.
Ang totoong life threathening ganito, iharap siya sa pwet ng limang kabayo. Pag nairita ang limang iyan, sigurado, sa morgue na siya dadalhin.
kasuhan din sana ‘yung mga katulad ng gelpren ni TT na si horny elena bautista na walang tigil sa paglulibid ng kasinungalingan para makatakas ang kanyang ninang at mga kasabwat sa pagsalaula noon sa ating batas.
para sa kanilang mga kakutsaba ni goyang: put tongue in a kalaboso silang lahat upang pagbayaran ang kanilang mga utang!
kasuhan din sana ng obstruction ‘yung mga katulad ng gelpren ni TT….
an inconvenient question:
what if gloria arroyo dies, and her doctors manage to assign the cause of death as related to the stress she has undergone since the days leading up to the arrest, and they add that she could have been saved if she were allowed to travel abroad. is the doj/de lima/the police/the government in general responsible?
okey lang na i-house arrest – sa haunted house with no one allowed visitation lalo na ‘yung mga abogago nila. lagyan ang bawat sulok ng CCTV para i-monitor ang lahat ng kilos nila sa loob. gayundin ay mag-install ng highly sensitive mic para recorded ang lahat ng usapan pati na kaluskos ng paggalaw ng bawat isa.
Apela ng Gloria camp: Right to due process!
http://abante.com.ph/issue/nov1911/news04.htm
oo nga naman! umpisahan na ang paglilitis upang makulong kaagad sila at nang masingil na pati tubo sa kanilang mga utang.
‘utang na nilang lahat!
19 Nov 2011
Heheheh… pati si abalos nagpa-ospital na rin pala, hehehe… baka dun din st luke’s, sa ospital ng mga elitista na katulad nya at ni gloria.
Baka dun, mag-uusap sila kung pano maging mayor sa kani-kanilang selda. Kasi pag pasok nila sa kulungan kelangan mapaalis na nila yung mga naunang mayor sa babagsakan nilang mga selda, hehehehe…. kaya siguro si abalos nagpa-ospital na rin.
prans
Kilalanin si Judge Jesus Mupas
http://abante.com.ph/issue/nov1911/news06.htm
Kung ako ang masusunod, ipahuhukay ko yang letseng St. Luke’s na yan sa DMCI at ipatitirik ko sa loob mismo ng Bilibid Prison Compound. Tignan ko lang kung meron pang magpapa-hospital arrest sa St. Luke’s!
@ #24 QED…..
Indeed a very good question and very difficult one.
Who’s responsibility it is, is a very tricky question. However, the same question should be thrown to the arroyo’s, who is responsible for the issuance of a directive by the DOJ for the issuance of a WLO? was it de lima or agra?
prans
#11 Cocoy
#16 parasabayan
Itaga sa bato huwag isulat sa tubig: Hindi Aabante and 2004 kaso ng dayaan
Puede bang talakayin ng mga bloggers dito sa Ellenville kung ano-ano ang magiging latay sa mga namumuno sa gobierno ng Pilipinas kapag nahatulang si Gloriang nandaya noong 2004 at pinawalang saysay ang kanyang presidencia. Baka daang libo ang magiging epekto kaya HINDI susulong ang kaso. Mga Halimbawa kung ang pamahalaan ni Gloria ay illegal :
1) Si Kabayad ba ang dapat naging presidente dahil namatay na si FPJ?
2) Lahat na pinirmahang Appropriation Acts (Annual Budget) ay hindi legal kasama ang pork barrel ng mga Mambabatas
3) Yung Value Added tax na kinolekta na illegal dapat bang isauli sa mga nagbayad, papano ang ibang buwis?
4) Yung mga illegal na gastos sa lahat ng oficina ng gobierno, dapat bang bayaran ng mga pumirma?
5) Papaano yung mga illegal appointment ng mga ambassador na gumastos ng milyon milyon dolyar sa anim na taong illegal na pamahalaan. Papano yung mga foreign transactions?
6) Papano babayaran ni Gloria at mga asungot at amuyong niya na laging kasama niya sa garnatsa sa abroad?
7) Papaano yung lahat –lahat na appointees ni Gloria na ngayon ay nakaupo pa ? Babayaran, isusuli ba nila ang naging sweldo at allowance nila? Ang dami nila.
8) Si Kiko Pangilinan at si Congressmen Gonzales na nagmaneobra para lang madeklarang panalo si Gloria, kulong ba o bitay?
9) Yung tinanggal na death penalty ibabalik ba?
10) Yung mga Gobernador at Obispong tumangap ng suhol, kakasuhan o ikukulong ba?
11) Seguro meron pang libong tanong dapat sagutin ng batas,
Parang lumalabas pag nilitis si Gloria at mga kasangkot sa pandaraya noong 2004, mas mabigat at malaki ito kaysa Nuremberg trial ng mga Germans noon WWII. Mababayaran lang ba, maisusuli lang ba ang normal na buhay sa lipunan, (the society can only move on) kapag (tulad sa Nuremebrg) bitay at kamatayan ang hatol sa mga nagkasala ng gumawa ng karumaldumal na krimen bumiktima sa noon ay pitumpong milyon Pinoy.
Sabi ko itaga sa bato HINDI matutuloy ang kasong dayaan noong 2004 dahil sa dami ng (dapat magbayad) sangkot dito. The case will be an affront to the entire Filipino Wangwang Establishment who had exercise for more than 6 years political and economic power over the entire population.
Maari or malamang mali ang tingin ko. Hindi duling dahil magiging doble ang epekto, kundi seguro malabo lang ang paningin ko. Ang kagandahan nito dito sa Ellenville puedeng balikan at e-post uli itong sinabi ko after 2 or more years para masukat kung gaano kalayo sa tama ang abot ng pananaw ko.
# 24 QED
Kung namatay dahil lang sa stress at personal problems sa St Lukes hospital kasalanan, kapabayaan ba ng mga doctor yun? Kung si De Lima ang responsable, sa batas natin homicide ba yun o murder?
Si De Lima ba ang responsable sa Kagagawan at kaso ni Gloria kaya siya na ospital o si Mike Arroyo. Sino ba ang responsible sa pagiging tao ni Gloria si Evangelina o si Congressmen Dadong?
Sino ba ang responsible sa pagtupad ng tungkulin ni De Lima? Siya o si Gloria?
Sino ba ang mas responsibleng gampanan ang kani-kanilang tungkulin si De Lima o si Gloria? Sa paksang ito sino ba sa dalawa ang irresponsible mula sa umpisa?
Sabi nga sa isang post dito baka Supreme Court dahil sa
TRO ang may kasalanan kung anu man ang mangyari kay Gloria.
Kung delikado, deathly stressed at anorexic na ang lagay ni Gloria baka sakali:
Hindi ako doctor pero may nabasa ako induced coma para sa pasyenteng kailangan maging kalmada ang naturalesa, pero tuloy ang pagkain (drip feeding), tuloy ang paghinga (oxygen, o respirator). Seguro sa isang buwan coma, gagaling at sisigla si Gloria. Tigil muna at induced coma din ang mga kaso niya. Kahit tulog lang, nakakatakot din, baka matuluyan. Kaya sa bandang huli mga doctor pa rin ang dapat pakinggan, sundin.
#31 humus
tumpak ang tanong. sa mga abogado/politikal experts po dito, (although the 2004 cheating is not included in the present case) ano ang political/legal implications kung mapatunayang nadaya nga si gloria? idedeclare ba si noli na presidente? will he enjoy all the presidential perks afforded to the president post-term? what of all the orders/projects/etc enacted during her term, mapapawalang bisa ba?
edit on #34
“ano ang political/legal implications kung mapatunayang nadaya nga si gloria?”
should read:
“ano ang political/legal implications dahil mandaraya at sinungaling si gloria?”, este, “ano ang political/legal implications kung mapatunayang nandaya nga si gloria?”
#24 her dying has crossed my mind. But would you not wonder if Hubby has anything to do with the death? With GMA gone, Mike can blame everyone and wash himself of all his doings.
Pero may kasabihan, ang masamang damo…
De Lima nor the WLO/HDO can’t be blamed because her doctor has said, Arroyo’s condition is not life threatening. Di lang nila alam when nila pede ilabas to be sent to jail.
Kung bawian ng buhay si Gloria ay ang dapat sisihin d2 ay ang sarili niya at ang St. Luke. Ginagawa lng ng DOJ ang dapat na ikaso sa kanila. Tignan nman ninyo kung noong ay wala pang balak ma imbistigahan sila ay puro walang sakit ang nararamdaman. Ng malaman nila na nag uumpisa na ang pag kuha ng mga ibedensiya laban sa kanila ay kung anong anong sakit na ang lumalabas. Totoo kaya nman ang bale niya sa leeg. Samantalang sampung taon niya ninakaw ang puwesto ay di siya nagkakaroon ng mabigat na karamdaman. Sampung taon sa nakaw na puwesto st nawala sa puwesto ay ngayon kung ano anong sakit na. Baka kasabwat ang doctor sa St. Luke at fake ang sakit. Nababayaran na ang halos karamihan sa atin dahil sa pera at hirap sa buhay. Kung sino ang dapat sisihin kung mamatay si Gloria ay siya mismo. (Isama ko na si Fat Boy rin baka sa kasuwapangan ng mag asawa na ito ay nag away sa pera at dinaganan ni Fatboy si Pandak kaya nabale ang leeg).
# 29. Huwag naman Tongue, dyan din ako nagpapa-check up. Kahit na may insurance coverage ako dito sa USA, nagpapa-check up pa rin ako dyan sa St Loots. I like their executive check up. Lahat pati ng staff nila, from doctors to nurses and everyone else are very friedly.
Before I went to sleep last night, I heard Topacio talk about showing a little bit of kindness to pandak on the mug shots etc. Did I hear it right that they (pandak’s camp) will just provide the mug shot and this will not be taken personally by the police? Ano yan special treatment? She can have the brace taken off anytime. Hindi naman permanant yan eh. The brace keeps her head in place when she moves. Natatanggal yan if only to take pictures. If at this point puro special treatment na siya, imagine what happens later.
I also saw on TV the detention cell pandak may be put in. The picture reminds me of when the Tanay boys were put in detention. The news over and over again showed the structure where they would be, no water and mosquito infested pa. And asspweron then was prominently seen talking like these officials and their men were criminals!The poor families had to walk kilometers before they could visit the detained. Yung mga walang sasakyan had to walk in the rain and heat. Super hirap for the families. Now, I am very happy that pandak gets to experience what she did to the incarcerated soldiers.
One of the wives of the detained even died during the incarceration, leaving two young children behind.
# 29 tongue
Kung ako ang masusunod, ipahuhukay ko yang letseng St. Luke’s na yan sa DMCI at ipatitirik ko sa loob mismo ng Bilibid Prison Compound. Tignan ko lang kung meron pang magpapa-hospital arrest sa St. Luke’s!
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Bakit hindi agad naisip ni P Noy yan, kailangan ang hospital sa mga big shot na may kaso may sakit at nagsasakit-sakitan; Mura lang naman magtayo ng mga 100 bed Clinic inside Camp Crame or Camp Aguinaldo. Hindi elaborate mga sleeping wards at morgue lang ang kailangan; pag talagang may pag asa pa kailangan ang operasyon puedeng dalhin sa Veterans Memorial o kaya’s sa St Lukes. Hindi kulungan dahil sa dignidag ng patiente, tawagin clinic na lang pero may rehas ang mga ward at ang mga pasyente naka posas. Certified government clinic by DOH, halfway house paradise yan bago ituloy sa Muntinlupa o Iwahig. Considerasyon yan dahil sa mataas na dating katungkulan ng mga pasyente este mga nasasakdal.
akmang akma yan sa under hospital arrest
onli en da pilipins.
whahahaha…kikita mga hospital ngayon,, pati abalos nag pa ospital na.. ok un ah..kasbwat na rin mga ospital sa mha ganun…
si joc joc ,norberto gonzales, raul gonzales,,garcillano di pa ba tatkbo narin sa ospital..baka mag kapit room pa sila
Covered na ng CNN ang kaso ni pandak. Ano kaya ang sasabihin ni Clinton na classmate niya? Ano rin kaya ang sasabihin ni Obama na ni ayaw makipagkita sa kanya? Remember the time this pandak was chasing Obama? Ayaw ni Obama makipagmeeting sa kanya. Obama probably knew even then what a rotten egg this pandak was, based on intelligence and popular perception.
Tuwang-tuwa iyung misis ni Topacio na hindi naka alis si Gloria ng Pinas. Kumpleto pa ang omelet niya pang midnight snack.
Karma talaga ni gloria dahil isang Hesus ang magpapakulong sa kanya.
what if gloria arroyo dies, and her doctors manage to assign the cause of death as related to the stress she has undergone since the days leading up to the arrest, and they add that she could have been saved if she were allowed to travel abroad. is the doj/de lima/the police/the government in general responsible?—–>#24: QED
This is like equally asking, “what if due to “unforseen events and/or complications due to her(supposed) procedures abroad Gloria died anyway, will her St. Luke’s doctors be held responsible for pushing for her to travel abroad ?
I don’t think this is even an issue, When a person is remanded to the real procedures of justice, it doesn’t really care about a person’s health issues…..especially kung mahirap ka . Is it because it is Gloria who is at the limelight that we should be worried of such repercussions ? Many felons (especially the have-nots) are dispensed with their due sentences without regard to their health concerns before they are put behind bars. Why would Gloria be tretaed diffrently ? Treat Gloria as any ordinary criminal and be done with it. She asked for it. Now she’s got it !!
Baka mamatay iyan sa overdosed ng Prozac.
Humus, you brought up a most intriguing question/questions…My non-legal layman’s mind is again falling back on horse sense.
I think there is no need to reverse everything that Gloria did if she is finally found guilty of cheating in the elections. It is not practical to do so. It is impossible to do so. But because of the gravity of what she did, she is slammed and kept in jail for all these wrongs and the consequences thereof. That is already the punishment.
It’s like when a murderer is found guilty. The court can’t undo what he had done. You can’t bring the dead back to life. But the court must have the trial, and if guilty, just declare him guilty and throw him in jail. And carry on with the present governance.
I am no expert in such things though, so….
#48:
Cocoy,
Dapat kuning doctor ni Gloria and sikat na doctor na si Dr. Conrad Murray. Siguradong ililigtas niya si Gloria sa tiyak na pagkabilanggo. 😉
You are right, Phil. Some thing cans and cannot be undone. Those still recoverable can undergo the legal process and reclaim it for the State. Those impossible to recoup are left to history.
Assuming it is legally proven that she was not the legal president, she still was the de facto president and all products of her performance are deemed regular.
da footic: Some things can and…
Tatagalugin ko yung tanong ni QED sa #24 para sa mga kabayan natin.
Ingles:
Tagalog:
“Paano kung namatay si Gloria, at napagtibay ng mga doktor na ang sanhi ng pagkamatay ay may kinalaman ang presyon na kanyang dinanas nung mga araw bago ang pag-aresto, at idagdag pang maaari sanang naisalba kung napayagang bumiyahe palabas ng bansa. Saan ang PARTY?
Sa mga naghain ng opinion tungkol sa puedeng sumulong o hindi ang kaso sa dayaan noong 2004 Maraming salamat. Puede daw ayon sa batas ani SnV, sabi naman ng iba puede segurong piliin lang ang dapat sagasaan at yung iba pabayaan na lang maging bahagi ng kasaysayan.
Puntos ko lang di matutuloy ang kaso dahil sa dami at sangkatutak ang sabit at sangkot diyan, mula sa Congreso sa, sa hudicatura (judiciary) at ehecutivong sangay ng gobierno. Gusto ba ni JPE, Joker, Kiko, Bong, Lapid, Mirriam at Ralph, etc, mga Congressmen, mga Court of Appeals justices, yung lahat ng Supreme Court justices na appointed ni Gloria, Mga kawatan sa gabinete at mga heneral ng sandatahan ni Gloria, pati na seguro relihiyon tulad ng El Shaddai, Simbahang Katoliko at Iglesia ni Kristo. Ang daming mga ileto ng lipunan na noon ay gumagamit ng Wangwang. Over their dead body seguro, haharangin, babakuran nila yang 2004 kaso sa dayaan. Bundok ng escumbro yan; mahirap tibagin.
Sa mga lumabag sa batas problema sino ang kakasuhan, sino ang ikukulong, sino magsusuli ng pera at sino ang pababayaan mabasura na lang ang pangalan sa atin kasaysayan. Parang auction yan para di masali sa kaso.
Meron nang nagsabi sa comentaryo sa dyaryo maglabas na daw ng Executive Order to abolish the Supreme Court because the justices’ appointments were illegal from the outset. Dahil seguro naisip na Supreme Court dahil sa ninombrahan justices ng pekeng president ay siyang unang balakid sa katarungan.
Sa isang palanak na corrupt na gobierno, tulad ng kanilang INOPERATIVE na TRO, ang Supreme Court ba bilang institusyon ng katarungan ay Inoperative din? Tignan ang US at mga bansa sa Europa. Seguro sapat na ang Tanod Bayan at Sanggunian, at dagdag selda sa mga kulungan.
#17. Wala na din si Col. Santiago?
Whew..Humus, after reading your list of what has to be undone, my mind is beginning to be INOPERATIVE. I need a strong cup of barako to reflect on that.
Gloria really did that much damage to the landscape, didn’t she. Parang sampung Ondoy ang trail of destruction.
That’s why wala talagang public support for her predicament. In fact her allies are requesting their supporters (kuno) to tweet their support.
Wow. Hakot Tweeters. Bago.