Great job by LRA’s Diaz

Miriam taking Diaz to the cleaners

To those who follow the impeachment trial of Supreme Court Chief Justice Renato Corona, Eulalio Diaz III, a classmate of President Aquino whom he appointed administrator of the Land Registration Authority, bungled his job, big time, in releasing a list of 45 properties credited to Corona.

But if you look at it from the point of view of the Aquino administration’s crusade against Corona and his benefactor, Gloria Arroyo, Diaz did a great job.

Imagine, with a phone call from Iloilo Rep. Niel Tupaz, head of the prosecution panel, he produced the list as his Jan 10, 2012 letter to Tupaz indicated: “Pursuant to your official request for the information relative to real estate properties registered in the name of Renato Corona et al, please find enclosed herewith certified true copies of titles registered in their names.”

Diaz related that he employed a “name search” in the LRA data base. He said that it was not only Renato Corona’s name that he punched in. He also searched for real estate properties with the name of Cristina Roco Corona, Francis Vincent Corona, Charina Corona, Maria Carla Corona Castillo and Constantino Castillo III.

Properties in the name of former Quezon City Mayor Ismael Mathay and the National Housing Authority appeared in the search and Diaz included them in the list submitted to Tupaz, who attached the document submitted to the impeachment court for subpoena and released to media.

Never mind that the list also included titles of parking spaces. The longer the list, the better.

Never mind that the list has now been trimmed to 21. “Forty-five” has stuck in the public’s mind.

Sen. Joker Arroyo lamented the “cavalier” attitude of Diaz about the wrong information he released.

Some may dismiss Joker Arroyo’s lament. He is a certified ally of Gloria Arroyo and he is expected to vote for the acquittal of Corona.

But to the public which has to deal with the bureaucracy, we share the concern of lawyer Teddy Te posted in his Facebook wall.

Te said: Nothing beats going over each and every document personally before presenting it in court or at the impeachment trial. After listening to the LRA administrator being grilled about his certification that Renato Corona and/or his spouse had 45 titled properties on record, it became evident that the LRA administrator, who is expected to be official custodian of such records, never did this. The presumption of regularity of official functions, on which a good faith reliance that a certification from the official custodian may be placed, has been severely impaired.

“The damage he has done goes beyond the evident reputational and evidentiary damage his negligence has caused to the House case against Corona–it goes to the integrity of the record keeping of titles in an office which is tasked with precisely that.

“The LRA administrator ought not to wait, he should do the right thing (take the “tuwid na daan”), after completing his testimony at the impeachment trial by : (a) apologizing unreservedly publicly and in writing for his gross negligence (jury’s still out, pun intended, on the malice), and (b) resign irrevocably (he shouldn’t wait to be fired because he won’t be, coming as he does from that privileged set of PNoy friends that we are stuck with) in writing as well.”

Resign? Doesn’t Te know about the KKK (Kaklase, Kabarkada, Kabarilan), a privileged group of people in the Aquino administration?

Diaz, known to friends as “Galland”, was a classmate of the President like PAGCOR chairman Cristino Naguiat Jr, whom Aquino defended for enjoying the junket, with his wife, children, nanny and another PAGCOR official and his wife, financed by a casino that the government office is regulating.

Diaz is one of Aquino’s trusted friends. When Aquino was first elected as Tarlac representative in 1998, his first choice as legal counsel was Diaz. But the latter was not available so Aquino got Paquito Ochoa, another classmate who is now his executive secretary.

Diaz was taken to the cleaners by a number of the senator-judges. He suffered meekly the insults of Sen. Miriam Santiago: “I commend your ignorance.”

For that, Diaz will be richly rewarded.

March 23, 2012 2:19 am  Tags: , ,   Posted in: Corona Impeachment, Malaya, Supreme Court

123 Responses

  1. Ellen - March 23, 2012 3:16 am

    I love Dennis Garcia’s take on Diaz’s impeachment trial appearance:

    Nang sumalang ang pinuno ng Land Registration Agency sa impeachment hearing noong makalawa… sinabon, binanlawan, binabad, kinula, at sinampay siya sa batikos ng mga senador. Kaya bago matapos ang hearing, nag-mukhang Mr. Clean ang kawawang klasmeyt ni PNoy.

  2. chijap - March 23, 2012 3:36 am

    Ma’am Ellen — typo po sa first paragraph. diba Land Registration Authority and not Land Transportation Authority.

    On the matter, i have a different of opinion but accept your view.

    I think what we can all learn from this is that Real Estate documents needs to be more transparent and clear. Kung sa LRA queries medyo magulo, then no wonder one person can claim large tract of land in Quezon City on a basis of some obsure document.

    We need to modernize our document handling system sa LRA.

    One person should be able to query if the property being offered to him/her is really being sold by the seller and not a fake third party.

    That’s where this practice of not having title transfer the Corona’s seems to have should be banned. Obviously the buyer and the seller has not being doing this just so to avoid paying fees.

  3. Ellen - March 23, 2012 3:53 am

    Thanks, Chijap.

  4. hawaiianguy - March 23, 2012 4:46 am

    I didn’t listen to the senate hearings, but only read how Miriam castigated the poor guy. This brenda lady has absolutely no sense of linguistic propriety. I think she is incorrigibly tactless.

  5. baycas2 - March 23, 2012 6:31 am

    The trial paused with The Defense on the upper hand…way up high in the discerning public’s mind.

    We must remember that they took the battle (or, war?) to 3 fronts: Senate (by necessity), Court of Public Opinion (by reacting to the opponent’s propaganda), and, if anyone forgot, Supreme Court (hoping to win by technicality).

    With the overt failures, including the “rush”, of the prosecution panel and the fact that there is already a taker of the Corona petition nullifying the impeachment trial, slowly but surely the Corona camp gained grounds for the Supreme Court (SC) to intervene and derail the trial.

    Add to that the most recent SC decision “exonerating” Corona of any wrongdoing in the FASAP case, the only one that was tackled in Article 3 of the Articles of Impeachment, The Defense is perceived to be winning.

    The SC intervention of this political process may be done during the long pause.

    J. Villarama may yet to be the next SC Justice, aside from former J. Carpio-Morales, to judicialize the impeachment process.

  6. Phil Cruz - March 23, 2012 7:33 am

    In my opinion, all this bashing of the LRA Administrator is a lot of distraction and waste of time which plays right into the plans of the Corona camp…to delay, delay, delay.

    We are being taken for a ride.

    They won’t put the Coronas on the stand until they can straighten out their planned lies, alibis, excuses and whatever.

    So they devise a convenient distraction with Miriam and Joker in the lead role..with Bongbong and Pia in the supporting roles.

    Get Miriam and Joker to spark the issue, then have the likes of Marcos and Pia chime in and grandstand and you’ve got a craftily fabricated distraction made-to-order for the defense.

    You create more of these scenarios and you begin to create the impression in the public’s mind that there really is a very weak case against Corona. They’re counting on that 43% undecided to swing even just a little bit in their favor.

    And the media and the public therefore could get gradually sucked in.

  7. Phil Cruz - March 23, 2012 7:33 am

    The real issue still is: that Renato has not declared certain identified real estate properties, or has declared them very late, or has under-declared them.. and has not disclosed/declared peso and dollar cash deposits in his name. And continues to avoid taking the witness stand to explain them. And instead continues to present witnesses that could not explain all these.

    Only Renato can. So what the hell is he doing making the rounds of media and making all those explanations not under oath?

    We were not born yesterday.

  8. Phil Cruz - March 23, 2012 7:58 am

    And if those planned delays finally won’t do, Cuevas still has that big stick he carries around behind his back. And he knows Enrile is afraid of it. That big stick is the threat of a walkout or a mistrial.

    Cuevas did it again the other day when he swcolded Senator Recto and called him UNFAIR. He waved the big stick in Enrile’s face and Enrile’s knees buckled. And Enrile gently tried to appease and massage the angered Cuevas.

    Corona and Cuevas have made monkeys out of these senators. And they allow themselves to be treated that way. Maybe they do deserve it.. for being such weaklings.

  9. henry90 - March 23, 2012 8:33 am

    Don’t fall for that oft-repeated ‘minadali kasi kaya palpak’. Kung hindi minadali yung Impeachment complaint na yan, malamang wala kayong pinapanood na impeachment trial at hanggang ngayon di pa tapos magbilang si Oliver Lozano ng bayad sa kanya for filing ahead a sham complaint. Bear this in mind, we will never again have this once in a lifetime opportunity to impeach Corona. If the Senate fails to convict him, Corona’s camp will make sure that Lozano or Lihay-lihay will be there to file ahead of everybody else. We will be CORONAed again and again. After being ARROYOed for nine years, i guess we need to focus first on this pressing priority. :-)

  10. Phil Cruz - March 23, 2012 8:52 am

    I agree, henry90.

    Sometimes because of the so many distractions, we tend to forget these very basic issues. Yes, that the reason why the impeachment had to be rushed was because you had peddlers like Oliver Lozano et al along the fringes peddling their wares.

    Despite the rushed preparation of the impeachment charges, the Congressmen succeeded in bringing critical data and information out in the open.

    In my opinion, the burden has now shifted to the Upper House, the Senate and the senators. They will either be CORONAed, ARROYOed or KAYOed by the public.

  11. henry90 - March 23, 2012 9:10 am


    CORONAed = lied to repeatedly

    ARROYOed = robbed blindly


  12. olan - March 23, 2012 9:27 am

    obvious na gusto talaga nilang ma-acquit si corona. never mind yung $ account..never mind yung saln…never mind na midnight appointee sya…halata na talaga. Imagine, we have a president na binoto ng tao with plurarity pero binibigyan ng lahat ng pagkakataon ang taong di binoto at midnight appointee!!! tapos kkk ang ginagamit para sirain siya at ang pagkakataon ng bayan sa pagbabago…para sa akin something has to give. ang bababaw ng pagkakamali ng kkk kumpara mo naman sa mga ginawa ng mga alipores ni goyang at yung iba pang administrasyon nuong panahon nila….kumpara mo kaunting pagbabago sa maganda at ihambing nuong pamunuan ni goyang pandak!!!this is the biggest bullshit na paninira na nakita ko para lang kay corona…i dont mean na mangunsinta but considering na ayaw magbago ng iba sa gobyerno, kailangan ni pnoy ng aalalay. taong bayan alam ko nasa likod!!!

  13. olan - March 23, 2012 9:28 am

    cge na nga acquit na..baka umiyak pa at mag sumbong ke brenda!!!

  14. xman - March 23, 2012 12:43 pm

    The word “Noynoying” is now a global phenomena. It is recognized in Wikepedia, published in UN, Gulf, etc…

    It is now used by Filipinos all over the world. Pretty soon other countries might start using it too. This is not just a fad anymore.

  15. ningcho - March 23, 2012 12:51 pm

    i can’t imagine mirriams reaction if atty diaz replied the same way as mr atienza did on yesterdays trial to the questions of the senator-judges.

  16. ningcho - March 23, 2012 1:12 pm

    #14 xman
    and people all over the world will think that ALL filipinos are lazy thats why philippines belong to 3rd world countries. akala ng nagpauso nyan eh sikat na sila, mga walang isip. lalo nila binabagsak economy ng pilipinas. ang mas kawawa dyan yung mga OFW’s na nadidiscriminate for just being a filipino.

  17. xman - March 23, 2012 1:19 pm

    ningcho, it does not refer to all Filipinos. It refers to your beloved leader, Noynoy. If you don’t know what it means and how it applies to all types of people of the world then look it up at Wikepedia.

  18. ningcho - March 23, 2012 3:39 pm

    xman, dyan ka nagkamali kasi isang pilipina d2 sa hk pinagsabihan na ng boss nya ng what did u do all day? noynoying? hindi lahat ng tao kagaya mo na matalino at may time magbasa sa Wikepedia. mostly what they see/read sa headlines yun na yun.

  19. parasabayan - March 23, 2012 4:47 pm

    Mas gusto ko na yung noynoying kesa yung super corrupt padakekok!

  20. chi - March 23, 2012 6:47 pm

    What has noynoying got to do with Corona’s untruthful SALN and flawed character that brought him to the impeachment court?

  21. chi - March 23, 2012 6:53 pm

    Si Corona ang isyu dito, hindi si Noynoy. Nabanggit si Noynoy sa artikulo dahil classmate at ex-tauhan niya si Diaz na ka-frat brod naman ni Corona.

    The coined word ‘noynoying’ has no place here. Please, let’s stick to the issue, nakakagulo ng diskusyon.

  22. chi - March 23, 2012 7:15 pm

    Sa isang banda, na-bungle man ni Diaz ang impormasyon tungkol sa dami ng properties ni Corona ay nakabuti ito dahil napuntos kung anu-ano lang ang properties na naka-pangalan kay Corona na hindi nya inilista sa SALN.

    Kumpara naman sa mga dating tauhan ni Gloria na sila pa ang nagnanakaw on top of plundering by their amo and partner, mas maiging di hamak ang resulta ng pag-research ni Diaz sa internet. Walang nasaktan at nanakawan na ordinaryong Juan.

    As to the wrongful information gathered by Diaz, bahala ang senator-judges kung meron o wala silang nakuha na makakatulong sa kanilang desisyon.

  23. Tedanz - March 23, 2012 9:14 pm

    Bakit walang sumusupla dito sa sira ulong Senadora na kung magsalita ay utal utal pa. Akala mo napakagaling niya … puweeeeee !!!!!! Tangna niya. Nakakasukang tignan ang mukha dapat talaga itong taong to ay dalhin na sa buwan na kahit na ngawa siya ng ngawa oks lang.

    Kaya ganyan yan at kasama si Joker …. mga bayaran yan ng mga Arroyo. Kasama yang dalawang yan sa planong “Satan Save the Crown(Corona)” :) . Financier nila ay si Bboy Mike. Nakinabang sila ng husto kay Glorya. Peks man …. kalkalin niyo man yong yagbols ni Kapatid Topacio.

  24. Manachito - March 23, 2012 9:37 pm

    Sayang ang talino nitong si Gng. (Senadora) Miriam Defensor-Santiago. Walang galang sa kapuwa niyang tao at labis ang angas. Sa Cavite ay may tawag sa babaeng katulad niya: “Siya ay may sayad”.

  25. chijap - March 23, 2012 10:23 pm

    I’ve noticed si xman even if he is not the topic, lagi nya binabanggit si Aquino. Must be some sort of secret love/admiration for Aquino.

  26. chijap - March 23, 2012 10:28 pm

    Corona’s wife may no longer be testifying.

    Yan ang pamilyang Corona, walang isang salita.

  27. ningcho - March 23, 2012 10:47 pm

    aray ko!!! taray mo. :)) but ur right. back to the topic on hand. i think the real motive of the defense in putting atty diaz on the witness stand is to humiliate the prosecution and atty diaz. and true to form the pro corona pounched like mad dogs. i saw the smirk on cuevas face when one of the senator-judges was berating atty diaz.

  28. Jake Las Pinas - March 23, 2012 11:03 pm

    So whats wrong with the list? Didnt the properties belong to Corona and his ilk at one point in time?

  29. Jake Las Pinas - March 23, 2012 11:08 pm

    Parking spaces can cost millions of pesos. It can be bought and sold just like real estate seperate from the condo unit.

  30. joeseg - March 24, 2012 12:22 am

    According to Mang Juan Pinoy, CJ Corona knew his wife has a cancelled authority since 1995 from BGEI

  31. vonjovi2 - March 24, 2012 1:48 am

    “Ang maipapayo lamang namin sa publiko ay abangan na lamang ang mga susunod na pangyayari at kung sinu-sino ang ihaharap na testigo,” pagtatapos ni Defense Lawyer Quicho.

    Sira ang hinihintay namin ay ang pag upo ni TJ sa wet-ness stand. Siya lang at di ang mga DUMMY’s na testigo ninyo ang mag papaliwanag sa yaman ni TJ.

  32. parasabayan - March 24, 2012 2:22 am

    Ano naman ang silbi ng mga tauhan ni Pnoy kung hindi sila tutulong sa “anti-corruption” drive niya. As a matter of fact, I encourgae all government employees to VOLUNTEER information related with this anti-corrution drive. It is about time that every Filipino should contribute to this drive by consistently reporting any hint of corruption all around them. This is the only way we can help our country.

  33. xman - March 24, 2012 3:37 am

    E mismong si Pnoy ay corrupt na mana nya sa nanay nya na corrupt din:

    Malacañang yesterday conceded that the power crisis in Mindanao will remain unabated until 2013 even as it assured the region that it is already fast-tracking efforts to increase base load capacity by contracting more power barges and building coal-fired power plants.

    The Mindanao power crisis has been going on for weeks on end, and it is only now that President Aquino claims to be addressing it, but also already telling the nation it must tighten its belt some more, as emergency measures to temporary resolve the power crisis will raise the cost of electricity.

    For many Mindanaoans, the power shortage is artificial, and that an energy crisis has been created through these long blackouts, in order for Malacañang to create an emergency situation where it can then justify the imposition of emergency measures that would call for the contracting of power barges, which would lead to overpriced purchases and graft-ridden contracts.

    This was also what Aquino’s mother, the late President Cory Aquino, resorted to when the nation underwent six-hour blackouts twice a day. Contracts were found to be overpriced and riddled with corruption.

    The current power shortages in many parts of Mindanao could be a perfect example of economic sabotage, a crime against the people, Davao City Rep. Karlo Alexei Nograles said yesterday.

  34. xman - March 24, 2012 3:49 am

    Malacanang said that they released the pork barrell directly to the constituents instead of going thru their elected representative is another lie exposed:

  35. joeseg - March 24, 2012 4:59 am

    Mainit init pa..

  36. vonjovi2 - March 24, 2012 5:11 am

    Xman – ilabas mo ang mga ibedinsiya mo kay Pnoy at para makasuhan mo katulad ni TJ na may nakikitang anomalya. Galit na galit ka kay Pnoy eh. Ako ay noong una ko pa sinasabi dito na nanalo si Pnoy dahil sa awa kay Cory. Pero napag isip isipan ko na bigyan ng pag kakataon si Pnoy baka may mangyaring maganda sa bansa natin at kapag wala siyang napakulong na mga magnanakaw ay isa na akong mag iingay dito na dapat siyang bumaba sa puwesto.

    Pero kung wala ka naman ibedensiya na ilalabas ay ituon na lang natin kay TJ ang kaso dahil doon ang topic eh.

  37. chi - March 24, 2012 6:09 am

    #29. Totoo yan, separate na property ang parking na kasabay naming inutang pati ng unit dyan sa Shaw. Buti nabanggit mo Jake kaya walang lusot sa parking nya si Corona.

  38. parasabayan - March 24, 2012 6:13 am

    Joeseg, sana na-uncover ito nila Tupaz prior to the impeachment trial. The prosecucution is a little bit too late to uncover anything elese. Trial by publicity na lang ang mga susunod na discoveries. Or save it for another filing for the next year. This time, it should be bribery and corruption all spelled out. Ngayon pa lang, the prosecution should start putting the new case together so at the first second they can file the case, they can right away! Matulog na sila sa harap ng court so that they will be the first one to file baka maunahan pa sila ng alipores ni pandak.

  39. chi - March 24, 2012 6:25 am

    #30. “… CJ Corona knew his wife has a cancelled authority since 1995 from BGE”.

    “Former Manila Mayor Lito Atienza on Thursday said he did not know Mrs. Cristina Corona’s position in Basa Guidote Enterprises Inc. when she negotiated for the sale of the firm’s Bustillos property in 2001″- abs-cbnnews

    Pwede ikulong ang mag-asawang Corona, with full knowledge sila na wala ng authority si Christina na makipag-deal kay Atienza, 10 years after cancellation. Grabe ang galing ng mag-asawang ito na magnakaw! Aba, ibalik kina Sister Flory ang pera!

  40. chi - March 24, 2012 6:32 am

    psb, bakit? Talo na ba tayo? :)

  41. chi - March 24, 2012 6:36 am

    #27. ningcho, nakakalito at nakakawala kasi kung masyadong malayo sa pinag-uusapan ang isinisingit. :)

  42. Tedanz - March 24, 2012 7:14 am

    #40 chi, talong talo na tayo …… wala akong tiwala dito kay Escudero, Jinggoy, Legarda, Cayetano’s, Enrile, Honasan. Mukhang hindi maiimpeach itong si TJ. Pero di bale dahil sa sira na ang reputasyon nilang mag-asawa, baka bigla na lang silang magpatiwakal dahil sa kahihiyan.

    At sana kayong mga Pinoy tandaan ninyo pagdating ng eleksiyon … lahat ng mga Senador-Huwes na bubuto na walang sala si TJ …. huwag iboboto ….. waaaaaaaaaaaag!!!!!
    Kahit pa anong paliwanag na gagawin nila wag niyo na silang paniniwalaan pa ….

    Yon lang …. puweeeeeeee!!!!!!

  43. chijap - March 24, 2012 7:28 am

    si datinglalaki binanggit nanaman si Pnoy. Bromance.

  44. chi - March 24, 2012 7:44 am

    Tedanz, panalo pa rin tayo kahit ipatalo ng mga hunyango. Magtutuwad man silang mag-asawang mandarambong ay sira to the max na ang kanilang repustasyon, sabi mo nga. ‘Yaan mo at ipahahabol natin ang thief justice at wifey kay Kim Henares.

  45. Tedanz - March 24, 2012 7:49 am

    Sana pakinggan ng mga Senador-Huwes ang hinagpis ni Sister Flory … na pag hahayaan ninyo si TJ sa kanyang kinakapitang trono baka mas marami pa ang kanyang aabusuhin.

    Yon lang ulit …. puweeeee!!!!!!

  46. Tedanz - March 24, 2012 7:58 am

    Biruin niyo namang ibinenta ang mag-asawa ang ari-arian ng mga Basa at ni kusing wala man lang nibigay kay Sister Flory. Anong klaseng mag-asawa yan at siyempre anong klaseng Chief Justice yan …. wala talagang pinag-iba sa kanyang mga among Arroyo ……… puweeeee!!!!!

  47. parasabayan - March 24, 2012 8:02 am

    Chi, hindi pa naman ako nag-gigive up na ma-impeach si Thief, kung sakali lang at matalo tayo kailangang mag-reposition na kaagad!

    If I have to base the votes on the line of questioning of the senator judges, mukhang matatalo tayo. I just hope na nag-bababluff lang yung iba. Sa ngayon I think the ffg will vote to acquit the Thief: Santiago, Joker, Marcos,Enrile, Honasan,Jinggoy, the two Cayetanos, Lapid and Revilla. Sampu na yan. Duda din ako kay Legarda, Angara and Villar. The others I know will vote to impeach the thief.

  48. Tedanz - March 24, 2012 8:03 am

    Gahaman sa Kuwalta at posisyon …. akala mo kung sinong Pastor … nanunutok pa ng baril sa walang kalaban laban na matanda. Yong pag-kutya ng iba sa witness niyang may kapansanan kung ano ano na lang ang sabi na kesa hindi na sila naawa doon sa matanda ……. bakit? Naawa ba si Corona doon sa tinutukan niya ng baril??????? Puweeeee!!!!!!!

  49. chijap - March 24, 2012 8:09 am

    I wonder if the Corona couple know that with them on the spotlight it

    -favors the Arroyo couple as the heat is off them (maybe momentarily; but know that other couple they can use this to their advantage and make it permanent)

    -puts their kids into such a bad light.

    -does not give them win situation. assuming Corona is acquitted, he can not force the public nor the other government agencies to stop investigating or criticizing him. He may be above and beyond lawsuits but his wife is not; his kids are not.

    subitem: ano feeling ng mga kapwa Justices now that Corona rat’d them out having allowances that needs to be taxed pala. nagkabukinggan na. And remember nobody likes a rat.

    he also inadvertedly rat’d his kids out.

    He has no win situation for him here. The only win i see in him is he comes clean (if convicted); he does the Angie path of escape (which is highly probable now); or that he is acquitted then he had to deal with the facts that came out of this trial (ie, daughter now has to deal with the Feds).

    Of course i seem to forgot, ang tao sa atin makapal ang mukha. so maybe that’s his only recourse and he’s ok with that.

  50. dan1067 - March 24, 2012 10:47 am

    May natatandaan ba kayo na sa paglilitis na ito even once e sinabon o kinontra man lang ni Brenda ang hanay ng depensa? Ito ba ang karakas ng international judge na kinatawan ng Pilipinas?

  51. Ellen - March 24, 2012 11:18 am

    Re #32 PSB:Ano naman ang silbi ng mga tauhan ni Pnoy kung hindi sila tutulong sa “anti-corruption” drive niya. As a matter of fact, I encourgae all government employees to VOLUNTEER information related with this anti-corruption drive.

    As long as the information is accurate,that’s fine. Dishonesty,falsehood should never be condoned. That detracts from the nobility of your cause.

    I go back to the basic question why, in the first place, did I oppose Gloria Arroyo? Because she lied, she cheated and she stole.

    If we want reform, why would we allow lies? That’s not reform.

    If a person can casually and nonchalantly lie about information that would be used as basis against a case, he can do it in other cases.

    Corona is the target now. It could be you, me and others the next time.

    That’s not reform. That is just change of faces.

    Prosecute Corona but do it the legal and moral way.

  52. parasabayan - March 24, 2012 12:55 pm

    Ellen, if the computer picked up the properties supposedly under Corona’s name, there must be a chain of title that somehow linked him to that property. The chain of title should be studied. If Corona has a habit of hiding his money and assets, all the 45 properties picked up by the computer should be looked into. Maybe some of those properties somehow belonged to a member of his family or a close friend or probably he even financed the property. The prosecution should research the truth more. They should go even way before Corona got into public office. If a person is rotten, his habit would have started way before he was given power.

  53. Ellen - March 24, 2012 1:07 pm

    The prosecution should research the truth more.-PSB


    But the burden is really on the LRA.

    A responsible person, more especially the head of the agency, who wants to get accurate information will do more than just take hook, line, and sinker the initial result of an online search. You know very well how raw data can be in an initial online search. Why would you give it out right away as official data?

    You verify, verify and verify. That’s how a responsible and competent person should do his or her job.

    I’m not really concerned how the prosecution or the defense does their job as long as they do it the legal way because that’s what this impeachment is all about: rule of law.

    Corona was impeached and is being tried because he allegedly violated the law, the Constitution. So we are rectifying it by making him accountable for those alleged violations. If proven guilty, he should be removed from office and charges should be filed against him in court. He should be punished.

    What this article is about is how the bureaucracy was used to give false information to the public, through the media, by the prosecution in the propaganda war.

    Like all of us, the media, trusts the bureaucracy for the information they give out because as Atty. Teddy Te said, they are record custodians. They should be competent in their job. That’s what taxpayers are paying them for.

    Competence means giving out accurate information. False info could lead to grave repercussions including miscarriage of justice. Not only about Corona but anybody, including you and me.

  54. Ellen - March 24, 2012 1:12 pm

    PSB, follow closely the developments of the case. Try setting aside your biases for awhile. The prosecution has admitted that 24 out of the 45 were wrongly attributed to Corona.

    They revised their number later to 21.

    How did this happen? It goes back to the “excellent” job that Diaz did. He is not just a mere clerk in LRA. He is the head of the agency.

    If this were another case and it happened to someone else (being a subject of an inaccurate certification by a government agency) I don’t know how that person would feel about it.

  55. xman - March 24, 2012 4:39 pm

    @#35 joeseg,
    Mainit init pa..

    Mainit init pa na kasinungalingan na naman ng kabit ni Car..o:

    A willie said:


    I checked the public records for Mountain View, CA, and no properties are owned by a Renato C. Corona. I also checked out the 1401 Bayshore, Tampa, FL address and it is owned by a Verando and Maria Badas.

    I’ve been snooping around but if you could give me city where Corona’s son lives, then maybe I can find something.

    Another named rusty commented:

    The owner of the house in 1401 Bayshore Blvd. Tampa, Florida is listed as a certain Venerando Ignacio Batas. He is a Physiatrist (Doctor in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation) and a graduate of U.P. College of Medicine Batch 1977. Now the question is how is he or his wife Maria Segunda L. Batas related to the Coronas? And why did the Corona couple used (sic) their home address?

    And another named JohNny lin cautioned:

    Tampa bay does not make sense to buy as vacation house since Charina lives in CA.
    Charina lived in Mountain View in 2008 then the Roseville property was bought in 2008. Mountain View is about 3-4 hours drive from Roseville. That is probably when Charina changed work place in 2008 but it appears to be a condo complex. It is not a beach home so it is not a vacation home.

    Baka makuryente kayo pag sinabi ninyo na me property si Corona sa US. Research muna natin itong Roseville. Pag nabiling cash, yun pwedeng hanapin kung kayang bayaran ni Charina dahil nung 2009 binili din niya cash ang McKinley condo.–corona-who-owned-properties-in-the-us-blogger-asks

  56. xman - March 24, 2012 5:33 pm

    Nahanap ko ang link. Tampa,Fl is under Hillsborough County that handles property records:


    Mailing Address
    TAMPA, FL 33606-3001

  57. xman - March 24, 2012 5:40 pm

    Occupation of Venerando Batas:

  58. MPRivera - March 24, 2012 5:48 pm

    #20: “What has noynoying got to do with Corona’s untruthful SALN and flawed character that brought him to the impeachment court?” – chi.

    mula pa noong pagkatapos ng edsa1, namulaklak itong mga kaliwete. martsa dine, martsa doon. ilang beses nang nagpalit ng administrasyon, puro batikos ang ginagawa. puro welga ang ikinakasa.

    ano bang maganda ang nagawa ng mga kaliweteng ito?

    meron na nga silang kinawatan sa tongreso na siyang dapat nilang kalampagin sa anumang isyu, hindi pa ba sila kuntento?

    ano gusto nila, ang kanilang mga pinaniniwalaang magagaling at makabayan ang mamuno sa bansa?

    duda akong itong mga raliyistang ito ay mga pinulot la’ang sa kung saang tabitabi, eh.

    diyan ba sa mga panggugulong ‘yan napupunta ang pork barrel ng makakaliwang partylist representatives?

    dapat sa mga ‘yan ay siyasatin kung saan talaga mga nakatira, ano’ng hanapbuhay. hindi na kasi nababago ang mga mukha, eh.

    puro reklamo. ayaw maghanapbuhay upang buhayin ang sarili at nakikinig sa mga nagsusulsol na magrally sila’t magpasikip sa kalsada. paano sila mapapaayos ang buhay kung walang ginagawa kundi magpauto sa mga nagkukunyaring makabayan?

  59. MPRivera - March 24, 2012 5:53 pm

    caption: Miriam taking Diaz to the cleaners

    putsa! parang umaasinta si brenda, ah.

    nakakasawa nang tingnan ang mukhang inahing baboy dagat na ‘yan. bukod tanging siya ang magaling. ano kaya ‘yang si brenda – “kinakati” kay corona kaya ganyan na lamang ang tagong kiling niya sa kakampi ng kanyang kinakampihang magnanakaw na sinungaling na mang-aagaw?

  60. chi - March 24, 2012 7:38 pm

    psb, except for Joker and Bongbong, I have not classified them senators yet as to their sides. Even Brenda is still subject to my benefit of the doubt. One thing is sure though, those who would vote for conviction have rightfully searched their souls and conscience and worthy of being labeled as patriots.

  61. chi - March 24, 2012 7:49 pm

    Mags, eto ang take ko kay Miriam: Nagbubunganga lang yan para hindi sya halata na boboto pabor sa kaso, tsaka may usapan na sila ni lolo Juan na huwag pagalitan ang depensa para hindi mag-walkout o mag-mistrial na makakasama sa almost sure na legacy ng una.

  62. chi - March 25, 2012 12:17 am

    COA joins fray in Corona trial
    Auditors disallow P34-M purchase of lot by city of Manila

    Eleven years after the fact?

    The Commission on Audit (COA) has disallowed the P34.7-million payment that the city government of Manila paid in 2001 to Cristina Corona, the wife of Chief Justice Renato Corona, for a lot in Sampaloc, Manila, citing among other grounds, overpricing and failure to submit some requirements, documents obtained by the Inquirer showed.

    For one, wala raw authorization si Tina para bumalandra sa bilihan.

    Pero paano ibabalik kina Sister Flory ang property o ang napagbilhan na P34M? Ipagpapatayan ni Atong at Tina ang dako-dako na milyunes till thy kingdom come sigurado.

  63. parasabayan - March 25, 2012 3:04 am

    Ellen, your point is taken. I also want the prosecution to be vigilant in making sure that they have the right facts before they announce these to the world!

  64. parasabayan - March 25, 2012 3:10 am

    Hayan na, I wrote in the previous thread that a board resolution is very important in any property conveyance by a corporation. Maraming requirements ang corporation sale lalo na kung real estate assets.

    Why did it take COA over 10 years to declare that the sale of the land is not valid? Kung hindi pa nagkaroon ng impeachment hearings, ni walang action. Justice delayed is justice denied. Wala bang mga statute of limitation sa mga kaso dyan?

  65. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 25, 2012 4:14 am

    What is declared outside of the court is immaterial. Hell, they can say they have 1,000 titles for all I care. That is mere propaganda to take care public opinion. What matters in this impeachment is what happens inside. What is actually offered in evidence. Of course you don’t show all of your aces to your opponent prematurely nor do you telegraph your punches.

    Your cards must be close to your chest and you keep the enemy guessing. Even the defense does it. You do not pre-mark all your evidence, only those that are obvious. So the prosecution cannot immediately cross-examine, right?

    The overstatement of properties, I think, was intentional. It is an old technique used to ruffle the defense and get them moving to secure other possible properties not known beforehand. That way, the prosecution can pick up signals and hints where these new ones may be hidden.

    It’s like the police technique that doubles the amount of goods stolen so that when they start counting their prized loot, each of the robbers will begin to mistrust his partners thinking someone’s hiding what is supposed to be equally shared, eventually one squeals and they’re busted.

    BTW, the excuse of Diaz was plausible. He said the name search produced 45 titles and all those were tied to a certain “Renato Corona” or any of the names OR NAMESAKES of the wife, children or the son-in-law.

    There was the issue of canceled titles but of course, these need to be validated if those were actually sold and that those amounts were declared in the SALN, right? BTW, there is evidence that explains why the 7-lot property might still be owned by Mrs. Corona. The other canceled titles were those in the names of the children but these too may not have been really sold and transferred as is now claimed by the prosecution. It was good Diaz included those.

    Nobody from the gov’t has seen Corona’s SALN until Drilon trapped the Clerk of Court into admitting she was carrying it. That was Jan 19. Diaz submitted the list of titles to Tupaz on Jan 10. So there was no way Diaz would have pre-checked his data with those on the SALN. Why is he being blamed? If it were me, I’d rather be on the conservative high side and would have probably given the same list, maybe even more!

    He gave the titles that covered all the possibilities, including those that were merely suspicious-looking as to the data thereon. Who would know if a typo was intentional or not? Renato B. Corona may have been Renato X. Corona or Renato C. Corona after all. Who knows? It still needed some refinement of course from the prosecution which was pressed for time, they decided to play it like that – count everything in and let the defense seek out those properties that have not been publicized yet and to silently follow their footsteps.

    The senators who grilled Diaz milked him a little bit, all those questions have been answered the previous day, I felt stupid watching a live “Replay“. Outbursts were therefore, simply overacting, uncalled for especially when those 45 non-evidence have already been reduced to 21 much earlier.

    I’m astonished many were acting surprised as if the 45 vs. 21 was something they don’t already know. The prosecution rested their case end of February, that time it was already clear to everybody that there were only 21 properties questioned by the prosecutors. Were they in a time capsule that they dialled back to the old count?

    Was it Diaz’ fault? No. Therefore, I agree with Ellen that it was a great job by Diaz.

  66. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 25, 2012 4:20 am

    Venerando Batas. Ang galing a. Translated in English, it means someone who worships the law.

    Si Corona yun.

  67. chi - March 25, 2012 5:47 am

    #65. psb, nalimutan mo yata na si pandakekak ang pekeng presidente ng halos 10 years. Si Corona ay superpower ng mga panahon na yun.

  68. chi - March 25, 2012 5:57 am

    #65. Tongue: It’s like the police technique that doubles the amount of goods stolen so that when they start counting their prized loot, each of the robbers will begin to mistrust his partners thinking someone’s hiding what is supposed to be equally shared, eventually one squeals and they’re busted.

    Just like the bluffs of Marshall Matt Dillon ha!

    That was an effective style pero natasod lang yata ng prosecution team and not intentional, hehehe.

  69. chi - March 25, 2012 6:02 am

    Pero kung si Diaz o Palave boys ang nakaisip na i-bloat ang number of properties ni Corona, yes… no doubt it was a great job.

  70. chi - March 25, 2012 6:06 am

    #65. Tongue: “… Were they in a time capsule that they dialed back to the old count?”

    Hahaha! Ganun na nga, nagkagulatan pa kunwari!

  71. chijap - March 25, 2012 11:00 am

    #56 Si xman puro insinuation, but no meat.

    Raissa has clearly said she is not accusing Corona of anything. Her followers pointed out something peculiar information and is providing more information.

    Si Xman naman may alam pang kabit. Does it mean you have information? Or baka naman puro Tribune lang source mo?

  72. chijap - March 25, 2012 11:06 am

    #66 Tongue, agree especially about the SALN.

    But i did want to point out one fact: Why did no one formally ask for a copy of his SALN? The same lady who gave the SALN also mentioned there was no formal request for it.

    I’m not saying the prosecution did not do their job (Corona having shown how he is the king of technical fouls would have shut down any request) but what i wanted to drive at is that SALN should be made available, much like a public document.

    Tipong pedeng i request sa NSO.

    In first world countries, there is that sense of privacy (ayaw nila ng Big Brother effect) for its citizenry, but as we all can see they still provide a level of accessiblity for the public to know about private properties. And that is transparency.

    In countries such as ours, the SALNs are kept off the public not for privacy but to protect the same government official from explaining his wealth and the discrepancy to what he/she is acknowledging to.

    I think once Corona is convicted (or wag naman sana Acquitted), the Senators (Drilon should initiate) and the Congressman (Tupas and Team should set example), that SALNs should always be made available. That property identification should be transparent and can be matched up to.

    This serves the reason why SALN is there in the first place, AT yung pagbabayad ng tamang buwis.

    The likes and acts of creatures such as Corona thrive on anonymity or the lack of information the general public does not know. Well the laws governing the SALN was suppose to counter that. To make things transparent.

    The best part, short of admitting, Corona has revealed through his being a rad, that he nor his family does not pay the right taxes or avoid doing so by not making Title Transfer happen.

    That to me is the bigger picture, that the goal is not just kicking out Corona (to demonize him till the end of time) but to make our government clean. It does not mean throwing Corona out, malinis na ang gobyerno.

    Matagal na process to.

  73. juggernaut - March 25, 2012 11:07 am

    I don’t see anything wrong with Diaz’s action, he just gave them a raw list. Unless some people live in delusions of self righteousness, life is like that, you are sometimes placed in a situation where you have to prove what other people say about you are wrong or at least explain – otherwise who cares? You’ve said what you came to say and if other people say its hearsay – that happens all the time!
    Who among us have never said anything where we have to backtrack to verify the facts because people are denying what we said they said earlier?
    Nobody has the monopoly of righteousness, most if us have our biases, and its rare that we see people who never did the wrong thing (at times illegal) to help friends or support a cause. Its very rare to see Filipinos actually choose to expose close friends, more often than not, pinagtatakpan natin pa. Literally pinagtatakpan.

  74. Al - March 25, 2012 11:43 am

    Dean Raul Pangalangan is known for his sober analysis of current events.

    In his summation of last week’s impeachment hearings, here’s how he saw the testimony of LRA’s Diaz:

    Flip-flopping LRA chief

    The most explosive and agonizing moment of the week was the testimony of Land Registration Authority (LRA) administrator Eulalio Diaz III who sent the prosecution the list of 45 properties allegedly owned by the Coronas.

    His first problem was rather simple: his list was wrong. The prosecution itself admits that the list is bloated and has pared it down to 21 properties, some of them mere parking lots, while the defense would trim it down to only five properties actually owned by Corona.

    Diaz explained that he merely made a computerized “name search” of LRA files in Metro Manila listed under Corona’s name, and that he never claimed that Corona owned them all. Lead prosecutor Rep. Niel Tupas similarly said they never certified the correctness of the list, but merely attached it to their subpoena request precisely to have them verified.

    Diaz’s second problem was what the senators found to be his “cavalier” attitude toward the truth and other people’s reputation. Senators Ferdinand Marcos Jr. and Loren Legarda were aghast that the LRA could issue that damning list upon the mere request of one party to a case. Can anyone just walk up to him and ask for a list? Diaz was confounded. At one point, he even blurted out that this was the first time he generated such a list, which only made it worse for him because, as Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago suggested, he was actually complicit in a Malacañang-masterminded plot to oust the Chief Justice.

    His third problem was that he contradicted himself on whether he knew that the list would be used for the impeachment trial and whether the list was already available when it was requested by the prosecution.

  75. ricelander - March 25, 2012 12:42 pm


    What is declared outside of the court is immaterial. Hell, they can say they have 1,000 titles for all I care…

    It is immaterial because you have already made up your mind from the start that Corona is guilty.

    But imagine it is happening on someone you know who is innocent. Then it would matter A LOT.

    “Presumption of innocence” in practice is really thinking that the one being accused is innocent. In real life, it can be such an impossibly futile exercise. E sa alam ko nang guilty yung tao, paano ko nga namang i-presume pa na inosente siya. In any case, your judgement is yours and yours alone and therefore you only have yourself to convince.

  76. ricelander - March 25, 2012 12:56 pm

    Diaz did as a loyal lieutenant would. Sunod lang nang sunod. Did he think Tupas and company will blame him for the fiasco later on? If he did, he would have done better diligence to protect himself.

  77. JohnPaul - March 25, 2012 5:36 pm

    “For that, Diaz will be richly rewarded.” … and, rightly so. Diaz is a hero. He deserves the admiration of every Filipino.

  78. MPRivera - March 25, 2012 5:37 pm

    “Mags, eto ang take ko kay Miriam: Nagbubunganga lang yan……..”

    ewan lang natin. maaari din mangyari ‘yang sinasabi mo ONLY to save her foul smelling mouth and her forthcoming oath taking sa ICC.

  79. MPRivera - March 25, 2012 6:28 pm

    Atienza confirms P34M sale
    Mrs. Corona authorized to sell, receive proceeds

    a tuta defending a co-tuta.

    dogs of same color and appetite group together.

  80. chi - March 25, 2012 8:50 pm

    #81. Sakto, Mags! Si Pnoy ang nagrekomenda sa kanya sa ICC.

  81. saxnviolins - March 25, 2012 9:19 pm

    # 76

    That is the difficult part about this exercise, trying to decide based only on the facts, not on personalities. In other words, based on the same set of facts proven in court, will I convict or acquit, without the extraneous factor of my considering that the guy is associated with Goyang, etc.

    I have difficulty myself, because I have little respect for the litigation experience, if any, of the guy. He was a Goyang yes man, and a legal lightweight. That is like George Bush Jr. appointing Harriet Myers. She was laughed off the nomination seat; here, the JBC stooges shepherded Corona through the nomination process.

    So to keep only the facts in play, in my mind, without the extraneous baggage, I pretend that the person on the dock is one I respect. I tell myself, imagine if it were Justice Jose Benedicto Luna Reyes (JBL) on the dock, lynched (impeached) by Macoy stooges. Would I convict?

    Maybe that is too loaded for acquittal, because, I, and all lawyers and law professors I know (Haydee Yorac, Justice Irene Cortes, etc.) are all fans of JBL.

    So I imagine it is a man whose writing I respect, but about whose personal life I know little of. Suppose it were Justice Alejo Labrador on trial. Would I convict or acquit on the same set of facts proven at the trial?

    Yung hindi man abogado? Imagine if it were Steve Jobs on the hot seat. Or imagine if it were Sergei Brin of Google. Would you convict or acquit on the same set of facts?

    Can we do it? Adopt the cold neutrality of a judge? If we cannot, and continue to look at personalities (that includes yung away ng mga Basa, and Sister Flory), then lady justice is not blindfolded – because she knows who is on the hot seat.

    Many “experts”, including the guy who cut the Bible with the Hilarious divided, say only judges can do it, not political officials like the senators. But ordinary people do it every day, in the United States, when they are called to jury duty. Kano na naman, somebody will say. Well the Hong Kong people also employ the jury system; same is true for Mother Spain.

    And if the argument is only that political officials cannot be cold and impartial, because of their professional experience, that is belied by history. Many of the great justices of the United States came from the political branches – CJ Charles Evans Hughes, who laid down the doctrine of clear and present danger in Near v. Minnesota was former governor of New York, . So was Earl Warren (governor of California). Earl Warren steered the Court to most of the liberal rulings that are stock legal realities now; including Miranda (you have the right to remain silent….).

    Frank Murphy, another great liberal, was former governor of Michigan, and former governor general of the Philippines. Kaya may Murphy Cubao. I hope they do not rename it.

    So I do not think that it is impossible for the senators to try to decide, only on the facts, and not on extraneous factors, like “excessive entanglements” with Goyang (the phraseology used in one of the articles of impeachment).

    About the audience, that is a little iffy; even if there is contrary experience in the US and Hong Kong. In fact, I think that is what the prosecution hopes for. That the audience will immature enough to decide on prejudices not on the facts, and only on the facts proven at trial. They hope to generate a groundswell with all the extraneous revelations 45 pieces of property, etc.

    I am not alone in not trusting the noisy gallery. Singapore abolished its jury system in 1969.

    As Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew described to the BBC and in his memoirs, due to his experiences as a trial lawyer, “I had no faith in a system that allowed the supersitition, ignorance, biases, and prejudices of seven jurymen to determine guilt or innocence.

    Will the senators rise to the occasion, like Charles Evans Hughes, Earl Warren, and Frank Murphy? I do not trust; I can only hope.

  82. saxnviolins - March 25, 2012 11:38 pm

    It is not only the US which has great jurists from the political branches.

    Two Philippine greats come to mind.

    Manuel Briones, from Cebu, who wrote ponencias in English and Spanish. He was a former senator, and member of the committee of seven wise men who drafted the 1935 Constitution.

    The other was Claro Mayo Recto, also former senator and later appointed to the Philippine Supreme Court by FDR.

  83. chijap - March 26, 2012 9:32 am


    if you were one of the senators and say the defense rested their case yesterday — what would have been your decision?

    say, that hypothetical question is not enough; let me ask this then – from how the senate is doing the case, tingin mo its about personalities?

    Appreciate your thoughts if you get to answer the questions.

    Now as for popular cases being tried by the public, it is totally unavoidable. Take the Casey Anthony case. Take the OJ case. Lahat naman tayo may prejudice. Pero at least di tayo nagpapanggap.

    I prefer an open discussion of the incident than say the Bo Xilai case in China where he was removed from office for no clear reason. Puro tsismis lang.

    Our system will never be perfect dahil for a fact a lot of people can be swayed easily. The way to make the system better is if the citizenry is more educated or more patient or more knowing. Then again, there will be less crimes in such a society, so there is less need for a justice system.

  84. ricelander - March 26, 2012 10:06 am

    I have difficulty myself, because I have little respect for the litigation experience, if any, of the guy. He was a Goyang yes man, and a legal lightweight…

    I agree somewhat. But my problem is bakit siya ang pinagdidiskitahan. If only they stepped back far enough and used more brains, Corona would merit little attention– just yet Kumbaga sa basketball, kung gusto mong manalo, unahin mong palakasin ang iyong team at ayusin ang play. Sus kung sunod-sunod ang talo nila, dahil mahinang klase ang legal team at sablay ang diskarte. Ang kaso mo, ang pinagiinitan, mga referee, ISA sa labinglimang referee…

    Sa impeachment, ganun din ang diskarte. Ang tinatrabaho mga referee!

  85. xman - March 26, 2012 12:44 pm

    LRA’s Diaz, aka Mr. Clean, is Carpio’s nephew:

  86. xman - March 26, 2012 1:01 pm

    Si VP Binay ang pinadala ngayon para sa Korea Nuke Summit. Nandoon ang leader ng US na si Obama, leader ng Tsina na si Hu Jintao, leaders ng Malaysia, Indonesia, European, etc…

    Bakit kaya hindi nagpunta doon si Dear Yellow Leader Noynoy? Mayroon ba sya talaga napaka importateng gagawin kaya pinadala nya si Binay?

    Hindi abot ng utak ni Noynoy ang makipag deal sa summit dahal mahahalatang kulang kulang ang utak nya katulad ng nakaraang apec ay inimbitahan sya para makipag deal pero hindi nya sinipot bakit? mahahalatang kulang kulang sya. Kawawang Pilipinas, nagkaroon ng TANGANG occupant ng office of the president.

  87. xman - March 26, 2012 1:06 pm

    Russians refuse to shake Obama’s hand at Korea Nuke Summit, not reported by American media (censured).

  88. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 26, 2012 6:18 pm

    It is immaterial because you have already made up your mind from the start that Corona is guilty.

    But imagine it is happening on someone you know who is innocent. Then it would matter A LOT.

    You think so?

  89. ricelander - March 26, 2012 7:17 pm

    You think so?


  90. rabbit - March 26, 2012 10:44 pm

    ang hirap kc kahit na alam na mali pinatatama pa..
    midnite appointment is wrong pinatama ng mga alipores..
    a lie when repeated done becomes the truth..
    so as they want to believe..

    so ganun ba tayo kahit na alam na natin na may mali dahil lamang na di mai prove legally ay tama na un mali???

    kawawa na talaga ang pinoy…
    mabuhay ang mga magagaling na taga samot sa kayamanan ng taong bayan,, saludo ako sa inyo..

  91. saxnviolins - March 27, 2012 2:41 am

    Hindi naman in play yang paratang na midnight appointee. Inatras nga.

    So hindi maaaring maging basehan ng pasya ng Senado ang pagka-midnight appointee.

    Kung gustong isalang uli, maybe Tupas can file a motion to withdraw the withdrawal, better phrased as motion to reinstate Article 1.

  92. parasabayan - March 27, 2012 6:51 am

    Mahirap magtanggal ng mga nasa pwesto kung kayang kaya ng mga ito ang lumusot sa mga butas ng batas at tsaka may pera silang pambayad ng magagaling na manananggol. Marami na ang napawalang salang mga criminal. Oj Simpson is one but somehow the law caught up with him oddly enough, in a much more minor crime. Magaling si Corona magpalusot. Sige lang. One day, justice will catch up with him. Karma karma lang naman yan.

  93. chijap - March 27, 2012 7:04 am

    @xman – pnoy again?

  94. Robert - March 27, 2012 11:36 am

    “I agree somewhat. But my problem is bakit siya ang pinagdidiskitahan.”—ricelander

    Eh, kasi nga siya ang dating personal factutom ni GMA, at ngayon ay chief referee. At si GMA ang may ari ng kalabang team sa basketball. Kitang-kita naman na ang chief referee kung mag decision ay palaging pabor sa kanyang dating amo na siyang may ari ng kalabang team.

    Maski anong galing ng mga players ng kabilang team kung namamaniobra ng chief referee ang mga kasamahan niyang mga referee para paboran ang dating amo ay wala talagang kapana-panalo ang magaling na team, ‘di ba?

    Kaya, ricelander, ang chief referee ang pinagdidiskitahan. Maliwanag na? Good.

  95. ricelander - March 27, 2012 7:48 pm

    Maski anong galing ng mga players ng kabilang team kung namamaniobra ng chief referee ang mga kasamahan niyang mga referee para paboran ang dating amo ay wala talagang kapana-panalo ang magaling na team, ‘di ba?

    Kung minanioobra ng chief referee ang kasamahang referee, yun ang hindi ko nakita. Nasaan yan sa articles of impeachment? Ang labanan sa impeachment nakasentro na lang sa SALN at mga dollar deposit at mga bahay sa America.

    Ang binibilang ko lang boto niya, kung sakaling bumaliktad ba, pumabor na ang bilang sa kabila? hindi pa rin! parang ibig mong sabihin, kung wala si Corona, papabor na rin yung dating kontra sa kabila, ganuon ba?

  96. ricelander - March 27, 2012 7:51 pm

    Maski anong galing ng mga players ng kabilang team…

    Magaling ba sila sa yo? Wala na akong magagawa diyan.

  97. Robert - March 27, 2012 9:12 pm

    “Kung minanioobra ng chief referee ang kasamahang referee, yun ang hindi ko nakita.”—ricelander

    Ah, ricelander, mukhang malala ang problema ng iyong paningin. Wala na akong magagawa riyan.

  98. ricelander - March 27, 2012 9:31 pm

    … mukhang malala ang problema ng iyong paningin. Wala na akong magagawa riyan.

    Maari ngang may problema sa aking paningin. Nakita ba yan ng prosecution team? Covered yan anong article? Na-miss ko yata.

  99. xman - March 28, 2012 2:25 am

    Kawawang naman itong mga Noynoyers laging nasusupalpal….lol

    Ito galing sa showbiz-government ng facebook tungkol sa nangyayari sa Hacienda Luisita:

    Via Kilusang Mayo Uno:

    May mga manggagawang bukid sa Hacienda Luisita na ikinulong! Suportahan natin sila! Lupa ng Hacienda Luisita, ipamahagi sa magsasaka — ngayon na!

    Hacienda Luisita update: (8:22pm)

    1. Nakakulong pa rin sina Manuel Mandigma, Brgy. Kgwd. Winky Esteban, Jay Martinez, Robert Mendoza, Dionisio Mandigma sa Tarlac City Police Station. Sila ay kinasuhan ng malicious mischief.

    2. Sina Meric Trinidad, 16 yo at Alfred Martinez, 17 yo ay kasama sa dinampot at ikinulong ng PNP Tarlac City, kaninang 4pm ay pinakawalan.

    3. Si Flor Sibayan, lider-kababaihan ay pwersahang pinaghihila kanina ng 2 PNP, sa kasalukuyan, nakakaramdam ng sakit sa kanang bahagi ng dibdib.

    4. Si Becky Canlas ay tinutukan ng M16 ng 2 PNP.

    6. Batay sa ulat ng mga magsasaka, 150 ang pulis, 6 na sundalong naka-sibilyan, di mabilang na sniper na nakatago sa mga puno.

    7. Sabi kanina ng PNP, pull out na sila sa Brgy. Balete pero ayon sa mga magsasaka, sila ay kasalukuyang nakapwesto sa brgy.hall ng nasabing barangay

    8. Sa kasalukuyan, ang mga magsasaka sa ilalim ng Ambala ay naghahanda sa anumang banta na naman ng PNP, AFP.

  100. xman - March 28, 2012 2:46 am

    Itong si Hearsay De Lima e nawili na talaga, hindi sumusunod sa order ng Judge. Hindi nya nga sinunod ang order ng SC noon e lalo na ang Manila regional trial court. Dapat kay tsismosang De Lima ay tanggalan ng license nya at ihabla.

  101. olan - March 28, 2012 6:51 pm

    Pressumption of innocence…it may happen to you and me??? It already happened to us many times..all I see is fault finding to destroy the position of many to remove the cj from his position na inilagay kahit na against the constitution…when magdalo was jailed, na saan ang presumption of innocence or it may happen to you and me…magdalo at that time is you and me….They were jailed for over 6 years…hahaha they are playing you all along whatever motivation beats me??

  102. Tedanz - March 28, 2012 9:04 pm

    May tanong lang po ako dito sa Hacienda Luisita …. yon po bang mga lupain na sakop ng buong hacienda ay kinuha sa masamang paraan? Kinamkam ba ng mga Cojuangco ang mga lupain na ito? Kung ganun dapat lang isoli talaga sa mga kawawang may-ari na walang danyos.
    Kinuha ho ba sa masamang paraan na parang yong ginawa ng mga Corona sa lupain ng mga Basa? Na idineposito na lang yong pera sa account nila.
    Baka naman si TJ lang ang may gusto na kamkamain agad ang mga lupain at ipamudmud sa mga magsasaka. Kung kayo po ay miyembro ng pamilya Cojuangco siyempre magagalit ka dahil pinaghirapan ito ng mga ninuno niyo tapos kukunin at paghatihatian na lang na wala man lang bayad.
    Kung batas na ang nagsasabi na ibahagi na sa mga magsasaka ay dapat pag-usapan ng matiwasay para walang away ….. hindi yong kukunin na lang ….. di po ba?

  103. saxnviolins - March 28, 2012 11:45 pm

    Ang sagot sa katanungan mo ay makikita sa decision ng Kataas-Taasang Hukuman sa kaso ng Hacienda Luisita, dito:

    Ang sumusunod na salaysay ng mga pangyayari (narration of facts) ay hango ni Presbitero Velasco sa Memorandum mismo ng Hacienda Luisita.

    At the core of the case is Hacienda Luisita de Tarlac (Hacienda Luisita), once a 6,443-hectare mixed agricultural-industrial-residential expanse straddling several municipalities of Tarlac and owned by Compañia General de Tabacos de Filipinas (Tabacalera). In 1957, the Spanish owners of Tabacalera offered to sell Hacienda Luisita as well as their controlling interest in the sugar mill within the hacienda, the Central Azucarera de Tarlac (CAT), as an indivisible transaction. The Tarlac Development Corporation (Tadeco), then owned and/or controlled by the Jose Cojuangco, Sr. Group, was willing to buy. As agreed upon, Tadeco undertook to pay the purchase price for Hacienda Luisita in pesos, while that for the controlling interest in CAT, in US dollars.

    To facilitate the adverted sale-and-purchase package, the Philippine government, through the then Central Bank of the Philippines, assisted the buyer to obtain a dollar loan from a US bank. Also, the Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) Board of Trustees extended on November 27, 1957 a PhP 5.911 million loan in favor of Tadeco to pay the peso price component of the sale. One of the conditions contained in the approving GSIS Resolution No. 3203, as later amended by Resolution No. 356, Series of 1958, reads as follows:

    That the lots comprising the Hacienda Luisita shall be subdivided by the applicant-corporation and sold at cost to the tenants, should there be any, and whenever conditions should exist warranting such action under the provisions of the Land Tenure Act;

    Ang pambayad sa sugar mill na dollar ay inutang sa banko sa America, sa tulong ng gobyerno ng Pilipinas. Ang pambayad sa lupa ay galing sa GSIS.

    Wala sinasabing babayaran ng Hacienda Luisita ang pera ng GSIS, kundi ipamamahagi ang lupa sa mga taong nagsasaka.

    Sa makatuwid, ang layunin ng gobyerno ay ipamahagi ang lupa sa magsasaka, at tulungan ang Hacienda sa parteng industrial, yung pag-aari ng sugar mill, na gigiling ng tubo, para gawing asukal. Ang industrial ay para sa negosyante (Jose Cojuangco), at ang lupa ay sa nagsasaka.

    Maraming nagsasabing hindi naman responsable ang magsasaka, at ibebenta rin ang lupa. Maaaring totoo yan; ngunit ang layunin ng gobyerno noon ay tulungan ang negosyante at magsasaka, sa isang iglap.

    Hindi ginawa yon, kaya nagdemanda ang gobyerno noong 1980, at naipanalo naman sa mababang hukuman (RTC). Ngunit nang naluklok si Cory, sa halip na ipagtanggol ng Sol Gen (Sedfrey Ordonez) ang decision ng hukuman ay iniatras ang kaso ng gobyerno. Ang trabaho ng Sol Gen ay ipagtanggol ang decision ng mga mababang hukuman sa mataas na hukuman.

    Ngayon, yung sold at cost (1958 prices), ay naging sold at 1989 prices, base sa decision ng nakararami, sa Kataas-Taasang Hukuman.

    Ang gusto ng Hacienda, at inayunan sa dissenting opinion ni Maria Lourdes Sereno, ay sa presyong 2006.

    My problem with the decision of the majority is that the CARP impaired the contract of the GSIS vis-a-vis the Hacienda Luisita, in violation of Section 10 of the Bill of Rights, prohibiting the passing of laws that impair the obligation of contracts. The CARP law forced the GSIS to accept a modification of its contract with Hacienda Luisita, that land will be distributed at cost.

  104. saxnviolins - March 28, 2012 11:47 pm

    Kung maaari lang, huwag ka namang dumura sa bawat pahayag. Magmura ka na lang, ayos pa.

    Dudura ka ba sa bahay ni Ellen? Nakakadiri sa tunay na buhay; lalo dito sa New York, ang daming taong parang kabayo, dura ng dura sa kalye, mapa puti, itim, Pinoy, bata, matanda.

    Virtual diri din ang nararamdaman ko sa pagdura dito sa virtual bahay na ito.

  105. olan - March 29, 2012 1:10 am

    saxnviolins – March 28, 2012 11:45 pm

    if that’s the plan of the government before to help both farmers and businessman…the government could have easily done it without anyone else in the middle like the middle…or have the land under it’s name except the sugar mill. ganun kadali because they can.
    Some one from the justices may interpret it but it does’nt mean true or correct. Inaayunan lamang dahil nasa justices kasi but it doesn’t mean tama sila. During those days, same as today, government personalities extend a hand to business people but at that time there are thing they can’t do openly but follow rules unlike now…why will the business man take the risk of having a big loan and then give it away after 10 years?
    Hehehe..justices sa ating bansa..the corona wing justices don’t even respect our constitution when they babded together to make him CJ kahit against sa batas maniniwala ka pa sa kanila?? cge na nga acquit na!!!

  106. Tedanz - March 29, 2012 4:53 am

    #105 sax, nagkamali ka ng akala na dumudura ako sa bahay ni Ellen. Walang kasamang dura o plema o kung ano pa man ….. para lang bigkas ng isang nai-inis. Kung sa New York kamo ay madaming kabayo na dura ng dura sa kalye …. dito naman sa New Jersey ay wala namang kabayo … ako lang ang dumudura dito. :)

  107. Tedanz - March 29, 2012 5:18 am

    1957 pa pala nangyari ang bentahan …. ilang Pangulo na ang dumaan …. tanong …. bakit ang pekeng Pangulo pa ang nakasilip nito …. at hanggang ngayon itinutuloy ang TJ ni Arroyo ang pangigipit dito sa mga Cojuangco. Bakit nga kaya?

    Galing sa pamilya Cojuangco ang Pangulo ninyo ngayon …. ano sa palagay niyo papatalo sila sa Arroyo Mapiosi.

    Kung dapat talaga na para sa mga magsasaka ng mga lupain na yan …. dapat noon pa ibinigay sa kanila.

  108. xman - March 29, 2012 6:16 am

    Thanks for the enlightenment, sax.

    6,433-hectare ang binili pero mga 4,000-hectare lang ang ibinibigay sa magsasaka at a cost of 10 Billion pesos per 2006 price.

    Ang pinag tatalunan ay yong 4,000-hectare agricultural land.

    6,433 total land – 4,000 agricultural land = 2,433 industrial land

    I know that Cojuancos converted more than a thousand agricultural land to industrial land.

    I guess, they did it through Cory’s legalize thievery through CARP, converting those agricultural land to industrial and abolishing the original contract price of the land (1958 price).

    St. Noynoy wants 10 Billion pesos (2006 price) for the land that they plundered for 50 years? They will only get it if they impeached Corona.

  109. olan - March 29, 2012 10:02 am

    hahaha xman..paki review ulit comment mo. Yung $245,000.00 ibinayad sa bahay na binili ni charina. tapos yung titulo ng bahay naging collateral sa inutang sa banko na $245,000.00…nangako si charina na babayaran buwan buwan ang bangko sa loob ng 26 years with interest…malamang yung down payment galing sa tatay??? hehehehe

  110. ricelander - March 29, 2012 12:41 pm

    Galing sa pamilya Cojuangco ang Pangulo ninyo ngayon …. ano sa palagay niyo papatalo sila sa Arroyo Mapiosi.

    Kung dapat talaga na para sa mga magsasaka ng mga lupain na yan …. dapat noon pa ibinigay sa kanila.

    And that is all you can say? Strange. As far as the multibillion peso Hacienda Luisita is concerned, wala lang??? As far as Corona is concerned and his Millions, he must fucking go to hell???! Your sense of proportion is simply amazing.

  111. xman - March 29, 2012 3:28 pm

    Alam mo Olan, mali yong pagkakaintindi ni Danger Sign Blogspot tungkol sa loan, bwisit pati ako nadale.

    Yong seller ng bahay ay pinagbili kay Charina ng $269,500. Umutang si Charina sa bangko ng $245,000 na ibinigay naman sa seller plus yong difference ($269,500 – $245,000 = $24,500) na $24,500 ang ginawang down payment nya.

    Nangako nga si Charina na babayaran yong inutang na principal $269,500 plus interest for the next 26 years.

    Ang mga anak ni Corona sa US ay parehong Physical Therapist (PT). Alam mo ba kung magkano ang kinikita ng PT sa US bilang empleyado?

    Ang median salary ng PT sa Sacramento ay $80,000. Yan ay kung bago kang graduate pero kung matagal ka nang PT katulad ni Charina na ilang taon na sya sa PT ay mas mataas ang suweldo nya, mahina na ang $100,000 plus overtime.

    Palagay mo kaya ay hindi kayang bayaran ni Charina ang $24,500 cold cash as down payment?

  112. xman - March 29, 2012 3:39 pm

    Ito nga pala yong link tungkol sa salary ng PT sa Sacramento area:

    Ngayon yong property sa McKinley Hill na binili ni Charina, 22 days after buying property in US, na PHP 6.1 Million ($141,860). Di kaya sya nakaipon sa tagal nya sa US at saka ang asawa nyan ay doktor sa US?

  113. Ellen - March 29, 2012 4:38 pm

    I don’t want this blog to be a purveyor of falsehood especially if I know that the story is inaccurate.

    The story in Charina’s property was tipped to VERA Files way back January, at the start of the impeachment trial. We researched on it the way we did our research on the Mikey and Dato properties in the U.S.

    After obtaining all the documents, we assessed the story: Charina, a physical therapist in the US earning a good salary, bought a house in the US.

    We asked ourselves, where’s the story here? Is it news, the way we define it as something out of the ordinary?

    We went back to the basics of journalism: truthfulness, fairness, humaneness and accountability. That criteria applies to any story, whoever is the subject – Corona, his daughter, President Aquino, Arroyo, etc. etc.

    We decided not to do the story on Charina’s house for the simple reason that it was a non-story.

    Now, someone made a story out of it. That’s her call. I don’t want to comment on another reporter’s work.

    So, I’ll make a request to all of you: if you want to discuss that topic, do it in other venues, in other websites.

    Thank you.

  114. saxnviolins - March 29, 2012 7:28 pm

    # 106

    why will the business man take the risk of having a big loan and then give it away after 10 years?

    There was nothing to give away. The GSIS was not collecting; instead of collecting, they said give the land to the farmers.

    Why go through a middle man? Read the ponencia, based on the Memorandum of the Hacienda Luisita itself. The Tabacalera wanted to sell a package deal, the sugar mill, and the land. They did not want the headache of two separate sales. That was the offer to Jose Cojuangco Sr.

    Alaws tak-warts si Cojuangco, alaws credit, so the Central Bank helped him secure a loan from a US bank, for the sugar mill component. The purchase money for the land, they got from GSIS.

    So, the facts are quite clear, the government wanted to do some land reform, but it did not want to buy the sugar mill, because government does not get into business. Now there was a businessman who wanted the sugar mill. So, they helped the businessman buy the Tabacalera package deal, so that the government could do land reform.

    Now, ang tanong. The Cojuangcos did not have to pay back the loan from the GSIS. They were to distribute land at cost.

    Wow. Regalo yan. You buy the land with government money, that you do not have to pay back, then you get to sell the land and keep the proceeds? Mayroon ka nang sugar mill, may bayad ka pa sa lupang hindi mo naman pag-aari. The land was held in trust, for the beneficiaries of the government.

    Now with the CARP legerdemain, the 1958 price gets converted to 1989, at gusto pang gawing 2006 prices.

    It truly is more fun in the Philippines.

  115. saxnviolins - March 29, 2012 7:40 pm

    Another issue, which the Supreme Court did not consider:

    Did the Sol Gen have the authority to withdraw the case? True, the Sol Gen speaks for the government, and true, the government (GSIS) was the contracting party. But when the right has vested in the beneficiary (farmers), the right cannot be waived without the consent of the beneficiary.

    Vested na ang right ng mga magsasaka, noong nagbayad ang GSIS. So, if I were lawyering for them, I would have asked for a writ of execution from the RTC, since the withdrawal of the Sol Gen was null and void. Yan sana ang ginawa, sa halip na maki-argue on the basis of the CARP.

    So may appeal sa Supreme Court ang Hacienda, at may writ of execution ang RTC. Mas maganda sana ang naging bakbakan, when the cases get consolidated.

    The Hacienda wants the case reconsidered? Ewan ko lang kung may mag-flip-flop at i-reconsider ang 1989 price to make it 1958.

    Be careful what you pray for; it may be granted.

  116. xman - March 29, 2012 9:36 pm

    Case against Corona collapses:

  117. olan - March 29, 2012 9:39 pm

    Wow. Regalo yan. You buy the land with government money, that you do not have to pay back, then you get to sell the land and keep the proceeds? Mayroon ka nang sugar mill, may bayad ka pa sa lupang hindi mo naman pag-aari. The land was held in trust, for the beneficiaries of the government… saxnviolins – March 29, 2012 7:28 pm

    …and yet the Supreme Court Justices sit on the case for decades play along whoever is leading the administration and now use it to protect their selfish interest in the name of the farmers…yeah it’s more fun in the phil!

    Curious why depend CJ when you already know he is not fit to be CJ and when you know the manner he became CJ?

  118. saxnviolins - March 29, 2012 10:09 pm

    and yet the Supreme Court Justices sit on the case for decades

    The Court of Appeals dismissed the case without prejudice on April 13, 1988.

    The Hacienda Luisita filed its petition before the Supreme Court in JUne 2006, to question the decision of the DAR to distribute the agricultural lands.

    So there was no sitting on it for decades.

    Curious why depend CJ when you already know he is not fit to be CJ and when you know the <b.manner he became CJ</b.?

    Did you mean defend?

    Ihiwalay mo ang issue. I posted about Hacienda Luisita, in response to a query by Tedanz. So I posted the findings of fact here, based on the Memorandum of the Hacienda Luisita itself.

    I have not defended the CJ. My comments on the impeachment were about procedure, and legal stuff. Hindi pa tapos ang trial, so judgment must be suspended.

    As to the manner in which Corona got promoted, that Article has been withdrawn. Only the articles in play should be the basis for conviction or acquittal.

  119. Tedanz - March 30, 2012 2:09 am

    Kundi ako nagkamali binuksan ang kaso ng HLI noong time na nabuking si Arroyo dito kay Garci. Kumampi kasi sa kabila si Cory kaya ayon ……. at nadagdagan pa ang inis ng si Pnoy ang naging kapalit ng pekeng rehimen …. kaya kahit nasa kulungan na ang kanyang Reyna itinutuloy pa din ang tangnang Corona at hindi lang siya pati na din yong mga ibang justices para iganti ang kanilang Reyna. Bistado naman talaga itong gagong TJ na si Reyna Glorya lang ang kanyang sinusunod.

    Kung talagang sa mga magsasaka ang mga lupain na sinasaka nila dapat noon paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang panahon ni Magellan ginawa.

  120. ricelander - March 30, 2012 9:13 am

    Kung talagang sa mga magsasaka ang mga lupain na sinasaka nila dapat noon paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang panahon ni Magellan ginawa.

    You make a very compelling argument.

  121. TonGuE-tWisTeD - March 30, 2012 8:08 pm

    Buhay pa pala itong thread na ito.

    Panahon pa ni Condring Estrella dapat natapos na itong HLI issue. Kaso nga na-EDSA si Makoy at ipinaatras ni Cory kay Sedfrey Ordoñez ang kaso, kaya yung sinisingil ng Gobyerno sa pamilya Cojuangco, nakalimutan na.

    Nabayaran na yung utang sa Chase Manhattan Bank ng pamilya, at natapos na rin yung termino ng usufructuary (tama ba sax, dahil walng titulong involved?) sa GSIS kaya nung panahong dapat ng “isoli” sa mga may-ari (farmers) biglang kambyo yung Nanay ni Cory. Nagkairingan ang pamilya Cojuangco at si Makoy na nauwi sa pagpatay kay Ninoy, ang manager ng Hacienda. Fast forward sa Administrasyon ni Cory at inatras nga yung kaso sa korte.

    Kapit-patalim yung mga pobreng magsasaka, masaker sa Mendiola, masaker sa Hacienda. Kasalanan nila dahil ihinalo nila yung mga Huk/NPA sa ilalim ni Kumander Dante at kumpare niyang si Ninoy sa mga sakada. Kaya nainfiltrate na ng Kaliwang grupo yang HLI.

    Yan ang malaking problema ngayon? Bibigyan mo ba ng lupa at pera ang mga rebolusyonaryong NPA kasama ng lehitimong mga sakada at trabahador sa Sugar Mill? Yan ang idinadahilan ng pamilya, yung mga hindi naman taga Luisita ay nakasama na sa listahan ng benepisyaryo.

    Yang P10B ay wala naman sa usapan dati. Sabi nga ni sax “at cost, if any“. Nangamoy pera lang yan nang maraming huwes at abugadong sumawsaw at nagkainteres sa kaso. Bakit mo ie-expropriate ang lupaing pag-aari mo? Kagaguhan yan ng gobyerno. Dapat ay balikan ang history ng upang alamin lahat ng tunay na benepisyaryo at agad na ipamahagi yang lupa.

    Sa isyung ito ay sa panig ako ng magsasaka.

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