The charge led Enrile to unleash a ferocious counterattack, calling the neophyte senator the “Phantom of the Opera in Philippine politics” for reportedly undermining the Department of Foreign Affairs by engaging in back channel talks with China on the West Philippine Sea dispute.
The word war at the Senate came on the heels on another exchange in the media between Trillanes and Foreign Secretary Alberto del Rosario, who took issue with the senator’s unofficial talks with Chinese officials on the West Philippine Sea. Trillanes, in turn, had hinted that it was Del Rosario ineffectiveness that led President Benigno S. Aquino III to seek his help.
Caught in the middle, Malacanang said the President has asked Trillanes and Del Rosario to “refrain from making any further comments.” Presidential Spokesperson Edwin Lacierda also read Trillanes statement that he and Del Rosario “have no disagreements” and that the President was “calling to shots” on the negotiations to end the tense standoff with Beijing on Panatog Shoal.
Del Rosario also issued a statement, saying, ”The DFA executes the foreign policy of the President. We will not dignify those who are working to divide us. There must be one policy and one team in promoting our national interest in the WPS.”
Click here (VERA Files) to read the full text of Trillanes’ privilege speech, Enrile’s interpellation and Lacierda’s briefing.
Trillanes said it was Malacanang who ask for his help, but Exec.Sec. Ochoa said the senator presented himself. Conflicting statements.
Ano ba talaga ang tutoo, kuya?
Wawa naman si PNoy, mauubusan na yata ng buhok dahil sa mga pasaway niyang mga alaga. Tsk, tsk. 😛
What does Lacierda mean by “the senator presented himself”. Pwede ba i-klaro ni Pnoy? Let’s say Trillanes presented himself to Pnoy, inaprubahan ba ni Pnoy himself to make back door negotiation?
I am saying it again, Trillianes has all the good intentions but he needs to learn a lot yet. Green horn pa siya. Kakainin siya ng buhay ng mga tao ni pandak. Napapaligiran si Pnoy ng mga ito. Pnoy should have a very good explanation for commissioning Trillianes to assist him on the dispute kundi hindi titigilan ng mga alipores ni pandak si Trillianes.
Why the heck would the president “hire” someone who have minimal knowledge on foreign policy issue to deal with the problem as big and as sensitive as Scarborough shoal conflict?
Either way (Malacanang asked for help, or Trillanes volunteered), that impliedly admits the fact that Trillanes was back-channeling with China.
Sabit ang Pangulo.
Matapos kang bigyan ng pupugak-pugak na Gregorio del Pilar, at paghingi mo ng spy overflights, nakiki-apid ka pala sa iba?
Mahirap sa diplomacia yang salawahan. Reality yan, sa global politics, but always in observance of the Eleventh Commandment – Thou shalt not get caught.
Kapag nahuli, invoke the Twelfth Commandment – When caught, thou shalt blame somebody else.
Hindi matutuwa si Uncle Sam niyan.
“Para hindi na lumaki pa ang isyu ay nais ng Malacañang na tumahimik na ang dalawang opisyal.
Sa gitna nito, inamin ng palasyo sa pamamagitan ni presidential spokesman Edwin Lacierda na ‘backdoor negotiator’ nga sa China talks si Trillanes pero ang basbas ay ibinigay ng Pangulo matapos iboluntaryo ng senador ang kanyang serbisyo.” – http://www.abante.com.ph
Ayun naman pala e, may basbas si Pnoy. Baka hindi masaya si Pnoy sa nangyayari kaya kumuha ng “nagboluntaryong” serbisyo ni Trillanes. Who knows kung ano talaga ng sitwasyon ng conflict sa China re disputed shoal. Sila lang ang nakakaalam. Baka kelangan ni Pnoy ang asisti sa problema at si Trillanes lang ang “nagboluntaryo” dahil maalam naman ang batang senador sa usaping yan.
Neophyte lang si Trillanes, kung ang inaprubahan ba na back door negotiator ay gaya ni Enrile mismo na entremely ‘experienced’ ay walang ingay na gaya nito?
Chi, no doubt in my mind na mahal ni Trillianes ang bansa niya. The truth of the matter is, bago pa lang nagkaroon ng stand off dyan sa mga islang yan, tinututukan na ni Trillianes yan. You can refer to Ellen’s blogs way back then. Marami ng pagsasaliksik si Trillianes on the issues. Wala namang malisya yung pagtulong ni Trillianes. Nakanti lang niya ang “super ego” ni Enrile kaya yan, ngumawa ng husto si Enrile. Enrile should not even be doing what he is doing, washing the dirty linens in public. Kaya lang, gusto niyang ipamukha kay Trillianes na siya ay sobrang “maalam” sa lahat ng bagay at si Trillianes eh “bagito” lang.
PSB, yes, Ellen’s blog has an archive on Trillanes on the issues. Ang mga tulad natin na antigo na dito ay nasubaybayan ang lahat ng iyan. Kaya ako mismo ay hindi nagtataka kung bakit inaprubahan ni Pnoy ang ‘assistance’ ng neophyte na Trillanes, mas maalam pa siya sa kanilang lahat tungkol sa isyu.
Mahirap ang masyado ng matanda sa lahat ng bagay, onion skinned na sobra lalo na kapag nabibisto ang kanyang mga special links.
Besides, if Pnoy needed the assistance on the matter, bakit kailangan na i-report pa ni Trillanes kay Enrile o Senado ang ginagawa nya, dapat kay Pnoy lang. The president has the right to get assistance of any kind within bounds from people he trust pagdating sa isyu na gusto nya maresolba.
Hindi pa sapat na “natorotot” si Del Rosario, tinawag pa siyang traidor ng maalam at magaling na senador.
Dapat mag-resign na si Del Rosario at irekomenda niya si Trillanes bilang secretary of foreign affairs.
On the side, kaya pala na heart attack si Amb Sonia Brady, natakot siya at na-pressure ng husto kay Trillanes.
Hindi mangyayari lahat yan kung walang basbas si Pnoy. Dapat ituon ni Enrile ang tanong sa pangulo. Kaya tama ang kalahati sa tanong ni Mike #5 Why the heck would the president “hire” someone who have minimal knowledge on foreign policy issue..” Bakit nga ba?
But when it comes to knowledge of the shoal, here’s one article that shows Trillanes is not empty of knowledge about the issue. http://www.ellentordesillas.com/2008/04/03/the-baseline-issuea-position-paper/
Kayo na ang mag-archive ng iba if you’re interested.
From the transcript:
Thank you Sec. You made my millions.
If what Trillanes was saying is true, we were on the brink of war because of some Indonesian investment?
So Manny Pangilinan is the Pinoy version of Haliburton?
Can you believe that? We got Malaysians “observing” talks between the government and the MILF; we have Indonesian exports of Jemaah Islamiyah; and we have some Indonesian lackey (Pangilinan) gobbling up a lot of prime assets in the Philippines. And to top it all, this guy is also the Pinoy Haliburton.
This is the confessed plagiarist di ba? Long before Mariano del Castillo and Tito Sotto.
Now I know we are truly a sovereign country.
Word War
Trillanes to Enrile: I lost confidence in you.
Enrile to Trillanes: I confidently say you are lost.
Word War
Trillanes: Enrile’s for CamSur split
Enrile: Trillanes’ for RP split
We all know who split and who spilt confidential matters.
Natawa ako sa word war mo, bay. 🙂
20 September 2012
Now that both Enrile and Trillanes spilt the beans, as a citizen of this country, I just like to ask Sen. Trillanes the following:
– What was discussed
– what was the agreement
– what was comprised, etc
Now that it is in the open, it is no secret anymore, and as a citizen of the country, I and all of us has the right to know what is the real score. It is no secret anymore!!!
It is in the best interest of Filipinos to know what was discussed. It is no secret anymore!!!
prans
Enrile has the notes of Secretary Brady. Apparently, she fed it to Enrile. Why?
It would seem that the Ambassador was piqued that someone from out of nowhere is talking to the Chinese without the knowledge of the Ambassador. Para que ka pang nag-appoint ng Ambassador?
The Philippine side should talk with one voice, so if there were to be any back-channeling, there should have been a heads up to the Ambassador.
I fault the President here, or his alter-egos (Ochoa, or others). You cannot go to war (whether military, economic or word war) with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. That is only done when you give alms – in obedience to the exhortation in the Bible.
Nandyan na tayo. Nangyari na ang back door negotiations. Ano na ngayon ang remdyo? Kesa sa talak ng talak itong si Enrile, magbigay siya ng solusyon. Kaya naman siguro nag-isip na tumulong itong si Trillianes, wala namang kumikilos siguro na hintuan na ang pagbubully ng China. Puro dada lang ang mga iba. Kung saan ang ihip ng hangin, doon sila. Ngayong may kumilos para sa kanila, binabato naman. Ano ba sir ang gusto ninyo talaga?
# 21
Beg to differ. Brady was there, so was Del Rosario; and that is their job.
I woudn’t want the President (executive) meddling in the work of the courts. By the same token, I do not approve of a legislator doing stuff that an old and competent hand was appointed to do.
Parang kailan lang (May), everybody was applauding the appointment of Brady. Then out of nowhere, the clueless President puts somebody else to do the same task. Too many cooks spoil the broth.
And between Brady and Trillanes, I would go for Brady anytime. Parang Iron Chef (Brady) yan versus the fishball vendor (Trillanes), kung competence lang ang pag-uusapan.
What to do? Ask the President to make up his mind. If he wants Trillanes, then appoint Trillanes as Ambassador, or Ad Interim DFA Secretary.
There is no inconsistency in back-channeling and keeping the services of Brady (or her replacement). A simple heads up could have been done, and Brady could even have helped the back-channeling.
Frankly, I don’t see the value of back-channeling. Was it for the secrecy? Well the Ambassador herself could have kept the secret. That is what diplomats do.
The more interesting question is, Was there a secret being kept from the Ambassador? The President was keeping something from his Ambassador? What kind of stupid system is that?
This won’t be a popular position among my peers but I’m sticking with Trillanes. Contrary to what some quarters are saying that he has minimal knowledge of foreign affairs he knows more than all of us here and compared to Enrile, he is no stranger to the truth. He was sent to resolve an issue (possible escalation of conflict) and he did so with no drama whatsoever, no presscon, etc. Pretty straightforward don’t you think?
Gloria still has clout here, it appears Enrile, Honasan, et al are still bound to do her bidding for some strange reason.
Actually it was a proactive move. It should have been win or loss with China, if we went to war with China who suffers the most collateral damage? the US or us pinoys? who would benefit from such a conflict? the war business of course. Its not win lose or lose win, deal or no deal, there is a third option – an that option was considered here.
Trillanes will be labeled traitor, phantom, etc, whatever, but in my book he is the only one we can trust here, good heavens not Enrile.
Brady is a sick joke, literally. Del Rosario is connected to one of the biggest lobbyists here in the Philippines, you do the math.
Why did Enrile bring this topic out in the open anyway? They should have discussed this behind closed doors like serious people do? Is this his answer to the Camsur splitting issue? hmmmm, nahuli ka natapos sisiraan mo yung iba? hmmmm
That is the problem with people that are always touting their knowledge of the law and procedures, their heads swell up that eventually they believe they are above the law because they can interpret it better than anyone else, hogwash. They may talk smart but not all people are stupid, bottomline, the truth still matters to us.
Now Enrile says hindi na niya sasabihin the rest of the story about the back channeling of Trillianes because it will compromise the diplomatic position of the Philippines. Ngayon pa!!!!After he already did!!! Dahil lang sa EGO niya yung mga maseselang information ay inilalabas niya.
Ganun talaga, there’s a back door negotiation/diplomacy for sensitive issues like China. Best scenario was Pnoy should have informed del Rosario of his decision to put his own guy and instructed both the DFA and Trillanes to work together. But it was not the case, perhaps it’s Pnoy’s own version of lapse of judgement or might be he intended it that way.
The big question is why did Pnoy chose to make Trillanes’ role a secret? Palagay ko hindi happy ang presidente sa trabaho ni del Rosario at Brady, meron syang gustong specific na outcome sa negotiating table nais ipatrabaho kay Trillanes.
As to Enrile, na-corner sya ni Trillanes sa CamSur split bill. Biglang kambyo ng ibang isyu, napahiya na junior senator lang ang bumanat sa kanya.
On Brady’s death, yan na naman. Noong nagpakamatay si Reyes, si Trillianes na naman ang sinisisi. Napahiya daw siya sa mga tao kaya nagpakamatay. Kung inisip muna ni Reyes yung mga ginawa niyang hindi tama, di siguro siya namatay. Kung gusto na ng magkapal na kunin ka, hindi kailangan ng isang Trillianes. Bakit hindi nila tignan kung ano talaga ang health conditions ni Brady bago siya iniluklok sa pwesto bago husgahan na naman si Trillianes.
Sa isang loop tungkol kay Amb Brady sabi ni tongue, ” You can see the difference between a career ambassador and a political appointee. The friction with China has cooled down a bit.”
Hindi kaya may kinalaman (din) ang pagiging back door negotiator ni Trillanes sa medyo paglamig ng friction? Just saying.
#20. PSB, Mrs. Brady has already recovered from a heart attack. Naibigay na nga kay Enrile ang notes (with presidential blessing) na ‘pakikialam’ ni Trillanes sa trabaho nila.
Ooppps… #30 PSB.
#28. Ah, hindi na raw itutuloy ni Enrile ang expose? Lalabas kasi na sya ang traydor dahil matter of national security yan. He finally realized after a big tantrum. Nabelat!
Sinabi mo pa Chi! Lumalabas na siya ang nag-compromise ng position ng Pilipinas. He should have thought of that first bago niya inilabas yung notes ni Brady. Now everyone wants to know everything about the back channeling.
Walang ibang matutuwa ngayon kundi enemy of the state. Double black eye ito para sa Pilipinas.
enrile is and was a national security risk way back FM administration. whenever he gets entangled with his own excesses, he make sure to have anyone answerable to save his already rotting skin.
he did it once and will continue till he rots.
wondering why there’s still people especially in the government service listening and believing every denigration enrile weaves.
si enrile ang pinamakatandang hunyango na nabubuhay sa mundo!
Trillanes is more credible than Enrile. Enrile has not directly answered the allegations against him. Is the division of Cam Sur more important than the RH and Sin Tax Bills that it had to be taken up as if national security depended on it? Enrile is not a traditional politician but a professional politician. He knows how to muddle issues to cover his true motives.
Ang ayoko lang is how the palaceis treating Trillanes. I expect Trillanes to keep defending himself alone. Perhaps it’stime for me to declare an open season on the administration. After the Puno coverup and now this, I’ve lost all faith in this administration.
kailan nakipag-usap si ATIV sa mga opisyal ng tsina?
kailan inatake si amba brady?
sa mga petsang ‘yan makukuro kung merong dapat ipaliwanag ANG malakanyang sa sinasabing “backdoor negotiation” na ginawa ng batang senador NA lumalabas na merong basbas ang palasyo.
kusang loob man ni trillanes o hiningi ng malakanyang, ANG importante doon ay ang basbas ng pangulo NA siyang may tuwirang pananagutan sa anumang kanyang desisyon.
basta ako,trillanes pa rin.si manong johnny dapat mag retire na lang siya.
#40. Schumey, same sentiment here kaya at the start of the discussion in the previous loop pa I insisted on knowing if there was Pnoy’s basbas or none.
But us knowing Trillanes, titindig yan ng mag-isa.
#37. Magno, among us here at Ellenville, besides Anna you very well know Enrile. I will always believe whatever you two say about the oldest and greatest hunyango.
Traidor si Trillanes, dapat e impeach yan, now na!!!!
ninakaw ko ang link sa ibaba na galing sa showbiz government:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1ddGSAKZQfLu0evGDGVm6VfEEVSjFwD2Y_P1GGzYN8EqQEVM1QC83-uGz9NNh/edit?pli=1
Trillanes should be impeach and imprison for treason.
Senators are not impeached. All legislators are censured, suspended or expelled by their own peers.
This was the case of Jose Alejandrino, who was suspended for one year by the Senate in 1924
lawphil.net/judjuris/juri1946/aug1946/gr_l-543_1946.html
Everyone was all praises for JPE during the impeachment of Corona. Sa totoo lang, he did well not because he wanted to. In reality, he did it for show. He knows too well Corona is so unpopular and favoring and giving in to him is political suicide.
I dread the day when JPE Jr. gets elected to national office. Yikes!!!
As for the senator with balls, uhmm yes he has balls but that doesn’t mean he knows what he is doing or saying. Fighting GMA back then was great, but that doesn’t mean he is good.
Sorry if I offended anybody especially his fans out there. Just voicing out my opinion.
Cheers! 😀
In truth, both senators didn’t answer the allegations hurled against each other.
In Enrile’s case, he didn’t answer the allegations that Trillanes exposed about the split up of CamSur against him. He just denied it but didn’ t even tried to explain.
In Trillanes case, he didn’t deny it, he just walked out.
If Enrile has the goods on Trillanes,he should file a case against him. Ifhe doesn’t, then all his allegations and even the Brady notes are a bunch of lies. Charging a person for treason isn’t a waste of time, it’s every Filipino’s duty to protect his country. Obviously, what Enrile did was a demolition job on Trillanes because Trillanes was able to unmask him.
# 49.
In response to the CamSur allegation, Enrile asked Trillanes, Did I ever ask you to vote a certain way? or something of similar substance. Trillanes said that was irrelevant.
It is relevant to me, however. If Enrile did not ask for a vote one way or the other on any bill, including CamSur, then he was not trying to influence senators. He was merely trying to dispose of a bill. How do you dispose it? Vote on it, and let the chips fall where they may. Maybe the gerrymandering bill will be approved, or it will be turned down. In any case, it is one bill disposed of.
So the question is, Was there a railroading of the approval? Or was there a railroading of the disposition of the gerrymandering bill?
Since it was in caucus, other senators would be able to confirm or deny the conclusion of Trillanes that the railroading was in favor of the bill, and not just for the disposition of the bill.
I have more documents, Enrile warns Trillanes
Trillanes dares Enrile to come out with full “Brady” notes.
Ayan, iwas pusoy na si Pnoy, ginawa ng “special envoy” to China si Roxas: “Mar to meet next China leader over sea row
DILG Secretary Mar Roxas will serve as the Philippines’ “special envoy” to China in an effort to meet the country’s leader-in-waiting for talks on a tense territorial dispute. Roxas said President Aquino ordered him to lead a delegation that will meet with Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping.” http://www.abs-cbnnews.com
#48. Huwag kang mag-alala, Mike. Kung nagkataon na kumilos ng sarili lang niya at walang basbas ng pangulo ang “volunteered efforts” ni Trillanes una akong titira sa bagitong senador. Kaya una pa lang ay gusto kong malaman kung may basbas o wala.
Ochoa maintained that Trillanes volunteered himself. Ang tingin ko dyan ay hindi isyu ang pagboluntaryo kundi ang pagbasbas ni Pnoy. And now, the palace is distancing itself from the conflict in the Senate created by the basbas ni Pnoy by making sisi to the nagboluntaryong bagitong senador.
Bakit hindi direktang tanggapin ang accountability ng basbas, mas madali yun kesa iwas ng iwas.
#51. Thanks atty for that enlightened post.
Trillanes airs side on talks with China
By David Dizon, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 09/20/2012 2:14 PM | Updated as of 09/20/2012 6:39 PM
‘PNoy called the shots on negotiations’
‘Brady’s notes were Enrile’s notes’
MANILA – Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV on Thursday revealed the extent of his backchannel negotiations with Chinese officials, saying he received his instructions directly from President Aquino himself.
Speaking to ANC’s Headstart, Trillanes said he was tapped by President Aquino to help de-escalate the tension in Scarborough Shoal from May to July because he knew several officials in the Chinese politburo.
He said Malacañang paid for his trips to Beijing even as the Department of Foreign Affairs conducted their own negotiations with Chinese officials. http://www.abs-cbnews.com
#51
Chi, kung tutoo yung sinasabi ni Trillanes na siya’y inutusan lamang ni PNoy ang ibig lang sabihin nun ay nilaglag na siya ng palasyo.
Iwas pusoy, hugas kamay. 😛
#56. Mike, have you read in full my link? We expect na mangyayari yan lalo at sinabi ni Trillanes na “…he cannot be gagged by Malacañang as long as he stays on the message about the negotiations with China.”.
Hindi naman pala gerrymandering, as explained by the proponents. I still have to find the bill to read it.
Gerrymandering is a political maneuver, whereby a district is divided to favor a party. For example, if Harlem, NY (blacks are usually Democrats)is one district, a re-districting may be done such that half of Harlem is merged with a big white rich district, and the other half merged with another big white rich district. Rich white people are usually Republican.
By the above maneuver, instead of the Democrats getting a sure win in largely black Harlem district, their voters’ power has been diluted, and merged with rich white districts, producing wins for Republicans.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering#Etymology
How apt. Salamander. Kapit tuko ang gustong gumawa ng gerrymandering.
From
abs-cbnnews.com/nation/09/20/12/lray-villafuerte-gma%E2%80%99s-hand-obvious-camsur-bill
“Proponents of the bill, however, say the gerrymandering accusation doesn’t make sense since the incumbent congressmen will not benefit from the division of the province.”
“For instance, the bill will not affect Dato’s district since it will stay with Camarines Sur, not Nueva Camarines.”
The bill states:
Last two sentences are mine, not quotes from Andaya. Sorry. The html tags were misplaced.
I just noticed that most of the comments above do not deal with what enrile was during martial law ni marcos. Secretary of national defense yan ni Marcos. May kinalaman yan sa pagkakulong ni Ninoy Aquino at same person din yan ang napabalita na connected sa mga coups against Cory Aquino. Malalim ang history ni enrile pagdating sa mga Aquinos. Perhaps the reason why the above comments are like these is because most of the guys above are too young to remember or werent even born in 1972 up to 1985. Kaming mga senior, we do not forget what enrile did during the marcos martial law days. He has never been brought to account for his being the secretary of national defense and being one of the implementors of martial law.
ENrile has never been identified with the welfare of the Filipino people, he is only concerned with his interests and his self preservation. Napikon lang sys kay Sen. Trillanes. Notice how enrile laughs when he talks in front of the media. When he says “SIno ba sys (Trillanes)?” parang ang dapat tanong ni Trillanes din “Sino ka rin ba? Ano ba pagkatao mo?”
# 60
I was already in high school when martial law was imposed. A good friend was a neighbor of the Aquinos, and he told me of the “arrest” of Ninoy. My brother went to Crame just because he had long hair. I even remember the televised attempt of Carlito Dimailig to stab Imelda.
I remember handing leaflets of Raul Manglapus in 1965 [kailyan (kababayan) of my Mom], while a boyhood friend distributed Macapagal’s, and another Marcos’.
I also remember Babalu (not Peping Cojunagco) singing a ditty to the tune of It’s Not Unusual of Tom Jones, as a spoof of Sergio Osmena Jr, in Marcos’ reelection bid.
It went like this (to the tune of It’s Not Unusual. remember to grind your hips a la Tom Jones):
Alam niyo ba ako ay isang economist
Ngunit lahat ng hawakan ko’y mintis
Nag-umpisa sa scrap iron ng Japanese
sa Esso at Redeco, ito ay napanis; nabulislis.
But martial law is not the issue. The issue is Scarborough; the way it was handled, and the way the Camsur bill is being handled.
The issue is not Goyang as well.
Oops. Grammar.
The issue is not Goyang either.
Joker Arroyo: Probe CamSur ‘gerrymandering’
Bicolano senator says bill dividing province benefits only political clans
By Cathy Yamsuan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
1:23 am | Thursday, August 30th, 2012
On CamSur
Public officials in CamSur better focus on the Seal of Good Housekeeping…
Full article here:
http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200&articleid=777492
In short, si Trillanes lang ang tumayo para magreklamo na ikinagalit ni Enrile. Thanks, bay.
TRANSPARENCY
Villafuerte versus Robredo style
Incidentally, the Villafuerte father and son became “friends” going against Robredo…living up to the proverb (Arabic or Chinese) “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.
TRANSPARENCY
Villafuerte versus Robredo style
Incidentally, the Villafuerte father and son became “friends” going against Robredo living up to the proverb (Arabic or Chinese) “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.
“Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile had dismissed the brouhaha over the Nueva Camarines bill saying the Senate’s job to pass it was just “ministerial.””
What’s their use in the Senate then?
matagal nang isinisingit dahil may nagpapasingit subali’t hindi maisingit-singit kahit ipilit kaya masidhi ang galit.
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@chi,
who’s the back door kicker and who’s someone’s back door kisser?
@chi,
if AT4 has the Phantom in him, JPE has the ghost of the Martial Law past.
Di ba itong mg Villafuerte na ito ang nagaaway away? Father and son pati na ang apo. Kaya idvide na lang nila ang Camarines para pareho silang maghahari-harian.
Binabantayan na siguro ni Enrile si Sonny the moment he entered the senate kaya may ever ready na siyang panira sa kanya. Sorry Enrile, you can not just train Trillianes like one of your dogs!
#68. Ay naku bay, ang kicker at kisser matagal na ang ‘affair’, hahaha!
#71. psb, yan sana ang gusto ni Enrile gawing Sotto si Trillanes. 🙂
Isang Pananaw, Pinupuri ko ang mga # 9, #10, # 21, #24 # # 27, # 50, at # 60..Malaman at maka-hulugan ang mga sinasabi nila..mas marami silang alam, sa kung ano nga ang, Ikabubuti ng Bansang Pilipinas ?…Para sa akin, dapat pagbigyan na ang mga kabataan, at hubugin sila ng matatanda alang-alang sa katahimikan, at kaunlaran ng Bansa. Parang pinalalabas ng matatandang trapo,”di na sila mamatay”. Dapat lamang na kung mawawala na sila sa mundo, nasa mabuting mga “kamay” ang kapa-kanan ng Pilipino at ng bayan. Alisin na nila ang “too much pride”,magpaka-baba na lang sila, at lalo silang hahanga-an..Binangit ng Isang manunulat, “Mag-paka-Robredo na sila “, as a good public servant….Sabi ni DRJPRizal, nasa kabataan ang pag-asa ng Bayan, wala na sa mga palubog nang kakayahan ( ipa-mana na nila para sa susunod na henerasyon yan, etc..)..Between, Sen. Sonny Trillanes, and Enrile, mas-pabor ako sa mga sinasabi ng batang Senador, dahil sensitive sya, pagdating sa “patriotism” issues, o pagmamahal sa Pilipinas. He could be a “martyr”, because he had the principles and the all out knowledge of his assignments or work order, from the President, PNoy..At may mga resulta namang mga nangyari,” lumambot ang tsina “, di katulad noon na halos, Eye-to-Eye or tooth-for-a tooth sila, handang makipag-laban..Naduro o napu-wing ng “alikabok” lamang ang matandang Senador, kaya sya umalma ng ganoon..Saka, yong “Secrecy about the issue” na “backdoor job ni AT4, na may-bas-bas ang Pangulo, ay delikado nang, tuloy-tuloy na mabubuksan, at marami ang mabubuking, lalong hindi maganda sa mata ng ibang Nasyon lalo ng USA..Tumahimik na lang sila sana, sa ikabubuti ng pangkalahatang komonidad sa mundo…This is like finger pointing, 3-fingers are pointing to the “accuser-Enrile” and 1-finger is pointed to the one being blame-Sonny ” !…Anyway, GOD Bless the Philippines and the Senators !..basang-basa na ang papel ng matandang Senador !..
Who let this “backdoor negotiator” issue out in the open?
akala siguro ni enrile mababaon niya sa utang na loob si trillanes, pag mali , mali
disadvantage ni trillanes mas maraming naka uniform ang kumakampi kay enrile, bakit kaya?
Sinugatan kasi ni Sonny ang PMA yata, dahil sa “Magdalo” noon, at na-isahan nya ang mga Heneral, na retired, sa pag-upo bilang Senador ?..Selos at Ingit yata, or ,more on personal reasons kaya, maraming naka uniforms ang kumakampi-kapanalig ni Sen. Enrile. Probably the common denominator attitudes of the many Filipinos, ” Makapili”, or chameleon !…kaya usad pagong ang pag-unlad ng bansa, dahil sa inherent na kaugalian na ito.siguro, pag-nagkaroon ng earthquake magnitude na 10-12 intensity, baka sakaling may pagbabago ?..at mababago na din ang anyo ng Pilipinas ?..Isang pananaw lamang para sa pagbabago …
#74. jug, palagay ko yung may pinakamalaking interes. How come nagkarun ng “Brady” notes si Enrile. Sino nag-supply?
#77. Rodolfo, I go with “selos at inggit”.
Gloria, a bugaboo? Ang mga walang alam huwag mag galing galingan kasi, tsk,tsk,tsk.
http://www.malaya.com.ph/index.php/opinion/13617-gerrymandering-in-the-worst-way
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disadvantage ni trillanes mas maraming naka uniform ang kumakampi kay enrile, bakit kaya? – Jug
Kasi our military is still a classic military honed by tradtions, i.e., you do not commit mutiny.
Had the Trillanes mutiny or the coup d’état against Gloria succeeded, it would have been an entirely different story. Trillanes would have all the generals by his side. Enrile would not be able to make ek ek at the Senate. 😀
#31. Thanks, chi, I was giving too much credit to Brady at the time. Maybe such credit was partly or wholly undeserved. Who knows Trillanes was involved at the time? I didn’t catch enough of the so-called Brady Report but what I know is that the copy could not have been given to Enrile by mere request, Noynoy has to convene the National Security Council or at least the particular Cabinet Cluster in charge of NSC.
I don’t remember any time during the standoff that Noynoy convened the Cluster or NSC. Enrile’s copy, no doubt, came from Del Rosario.
tongue, when del Rosario invoked the help of the US to ease the tension at Panatag, I thought that was a wrong move knowing China likes to talk in secret. Alam sigurado ni Pnoy yan kaya he insisted on Lee before, and looked for someone he trust to do the specific task concerning the shoal standoff. It just so happened it was Trillanes, it could be someone else.
On my part, I gave too much credit to del Rosario until he called his big brother. Ano kaya talaga iniisip nya nun? Was that for a show hoping that China would back off? If so, then his hope was very dangerous.
Anyway, thanks for the input about the Brady notes and NSC, my thoughts, too.
Alam mo naman chi I’m allergic to anything that has to do with the old Greedy Group Plus Plus.
Eto na naman yang Forum Energy na yan. It might be true what Sonny is now saying that walang laman yung Reed Bank. Hindi nila makuhanan ng tiyempo noong panahon ni putot kaya daw hindi mabigyan ng Service Contract.
Bull. They can get a contract if they wanted to. Kasosyo nila yung mag-asawa diyan. Nandiyan sila lahat nagtapon ng kwarta pero hindi na yata mababawi. Kung meron mang langis, kokonti lang.
Andiyan si JDV at bro niyang si Oscar, Ramos ng (National Bookstore) Philodrill, Aboitiz, Razon, Ibazeta, Doc Brown, yung putot at baboy etc.
Kahit anong “praise release” ni Razon sa diyaryo niya, dapa pa rin yung stock.
Ano konek niyan kay Enrile? Yung Fuga Island sa Cagayan EPZA na kontrolado nilang mag-ama at Jackie ang pangalawang site na sinusurvey nila (Forum Energy). Ngayong binuking ni Sonny na walang laman ang Reed Bank, sino ngayon ang pagpapasahan ni Pangilinan ng bilyun-bilyung “Buhangin”? hahahaha.
May karapatan nga silang magpatayan. Malas lang nila, matapang si AT4.
Puro sabit si Pangilinan. Yung mine tailings pond sa Itogon – Suyoc, makawala sa tubig ng ilog. Bilyong halaga ng Forum Energy hindi naman madispatsa lalot binuking ni Sonny, patay na pati laundering ng Grupo. Binili niya yung daan libong kilometrong transmission lines para sana sa BPL (Broadband over Power Lines) hindi naman pala feasible sa broadband.
Kailangan niya ng milagro kundi sisipain na siya ng magkakapatid na Salim sa puwesto niya.
Teka, napansin nyo ba na nawala na yung galit ni Enrile sa Smart Cellphone? Diba nga pinilit pa niyang gawin ng NTC na per pulse ang charges sa calls na magbababa ng sobra sa cellphone call cost? Bakit di siya nagwawala kahit di pinansin ni Pangilinan? Esep-esep…
Tangina, happy siya!
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Haaay, ayoko na nga.
Hahaha! Ganung ba yun, tongue, #85? Kaya naman pala nag-shift ng tanong si Enrile.
Ay naku, ang elite connect nakakasuka!
Kung hindi pala sinabihan ni Pnoy si Sonny na tumigil ay buking na buking mga katarantaduhan nila.
btw, baka nasa Cambodia pa si Ellen at hindi matapos-tapos galain ang Angkor Wat kaya hindi ma-check ang kanyang admin.
Tongue, Brady’s notes was for the DFA. Part of her regular reports to the home office. Who gave that to Enrile? Of course someone from the DFA.
Right, Brady writes regular reports like all other envoys. And these are submitted of course to higher ups. I can’t think of any other DFA Exec who would get the ambassadors’ reports except of course, Del Rosario.