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Hot Mama, Hot Papa

In all power struggles, there are behind- the-scene tales of corruption and sex scandals.

Sometime last week of October, a young cabinet member of Gloria Arroyo met with an opposition senator with explosive information about the love affair of another senior cabinet official and a female member of the Consultative Commission formed by Gloria Arroyo to recommend revisions to be made in the Constitution.

The information from the cabinet member allegedly contained details of what had been talked about in coffee shops and passed around in text messages. In fact, a short item came out in www.uniffors.com, the blog of the underground group of foreign service employees, last Sept. 27, 2006.

Uniffors said:

There is nothing juicier than a scandal involving sex and corruption, specially if it involves employees of a big house by the Pasig. We are not talking about the Arroyo couple.

Anyway, rumors are flying about a romantic duo who have teamed up to corner lucrative contracts with the Chinese, French, and Indians.

Does the queen know about the affair? Maybe. But there’s nothing she can do about it. Sex between consenting adults is nobody’s business, except, perhaps, for the spouse or spouses who may be interested in asking about love offerings – diamonds and cars – and that cozy love nest at the Fort.

The queen can order the PAGC, her in-house anti-graft body, to investigate the allegations of corruption. But she won’t because the man involved is indispensable to her. The woman, on the other hand, well… we’ll see soon enough if she’ll continue to be useful to the queen

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After that meeting of the cabinet member and the opposition senator, a text message went around to watch out for the privilege speech on Nov. 6 by one “matapang na senador” (a brave senator) about “Hot Mama and Hot Papa,” allegedly a tale about sex and corruption in Malacañang.

Last week, we were waiting for Sen. Panfilo Lacson to deliver a privilege speech because he is the one that comes to mind with the description “matapang na senador.”

What came out instead was a meeting between Lacson and Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita last Monday at the Manila Hotel.

Here’s an Inquirer report on that meeting:

When Senate reporters yesterday asked Ermita and Lacson separately about what they had talked about, they gave slightly different answers.

“Personal and official matters,” Lacson said.

“It was a personal thing, nothing important that you should know,” Ermita said.

The senator said Ermita sought him out over the weekend to discuss an ‘urgent concern in the Senate.’

“There was urgency in his call, but I promised him I will not talk about it (with the media),” Lacson said.

The source said Ermita had been bothered by a derogatory text message about him and contacted Lacson, whom he knew when they were both serving in the military and police establishments during martial law in the 1970s.

It turned out that Ermita had guessed wrong that it was Lacson who was going to deliver the privilege speech on “Hot Mama, Hot Papa.” Sources said it was to another opposition senator that the cabinet member gave the details about “Hot Mama” and “Hot Papa”.

We do not know if there is truth to this “Hot Mama, Hot Papa” story. I’m, of course, interested in the story because if it involves government contracts,that means taxpayers’ money.

But what I find more interesting is the angle that it’s a cabinet member that leaked the story to the opposition.

Last Tuesday, it was Ermita who disclosed the P138.7 million in cash advances that national security adviser Norberto Gonzales incurred since 2002. “We have required him to account for the unliquidated advances and to liquidate them but he has not followed the orders,” Ermita said.

It looks like the infighting among Arroyo’s men is becoming deadlier by the day. We hope the opposition, for once, will do something right and keep quiet. Just watch. They should remember Napoleon Bonaparte’s words of wisdom: “Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself.”

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  1. Ellen,

    Philippine legislators who visited here mentioned the names or let’s put it more diplomatically, the names of probable people in the case above. Since my attention span when it comes to scandals involving sex, goons and gold and what have you is like one second maximum, I didn’t particularly etch them (the names) in my aging memory…

    But since you used the ultimate ‘argument’ – taxpayers’ money, I think I will listen to the taped conversations to catch the names of the “suspects”.

    Not suggesting that the legislators are right… but whew, this item is indeed getting hot as in HOT, VERY HOT!

  2. chi chi

    Ellen,

    Whoa! A very sexy head “Hot Mama, Hot Papa”.
    I was thinking three days ago, wondering what could be that personal meeting about E and L, which both involved didn’t want to divulge. Since there have been glimpses of this very hot item, here and there, I once speculated that this is it.

    Wondering also, what could that info leaker wanted?

    Getting deadlier, hotter, and sexier in the Fantasy Kingdom of the Great Pretender!

    Basta, huwag lang nilang isama ang pera ng bayan, problema nila yan!

  3. You bet, Ellen, tignan na lang kung sino ang pipiyak para mahuli! Madali namang malaman may lead ka lang. Problema nga lang doon sa mga matagal nang wala sa bansa and totally cut off, hindi mo kilala kung sino sila! Buti na nga lang nakakahagip na ng balita from the Philippines through my job at the TV stations, sa blog mo and the online versions of the local papers there.

    Hangga’t nagba-blog ang grupo noong anak na babae, alam natin the Bansot is still here to stay. Kaya watch and see muna ako habang kumikilos kayo diyan at kami dito!

  4. I should add. Ingat, Ellen, at baka madagdagan pa ang bintang sa iyo. Next time, banatan na ng husto iyong tabatsoy para matagal na dahil inamin naman niya before na siya ang isa sa promotor.

  5. Chabeli Chabeli

    Oooops, I’m sorry about that Ms. Ellen. Thanks for not posting my comments then. I appreciate it.

  6. Ooops, nabulol ang tagalog:…banatan ng husto iyong tabatsoy para matanggal na dahil inamin naman niya before na siya ang isa sa promotor ng EDSA 2.

  7. manuelbuencamino manuelbuencamino

    ellen,

    very protective talaga itong si ermita. he should have stayed on as secretary of defense. it must not have been easy for him to ask ping not to reveal the identities of hot mama and hot papa, at least they are assured that ermita will protect their identities

  8. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Ummm…Looks good. Smells good. It’s boiling and cooking well…in their own fat. Anybody for Vipers Stew?

  9. Manuel,

    Ed Ermita is one guy I used to like a lot. He used to have a sense of honor deeply embedded in soldiers of the old school.

    I’m very disappointed that he’s turned the way he is. I think Lacson somehow respects Ermita not only because they served in the military together but also because Ermita has this known quality – he used to have a word of honor.

  10. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    You’re right, Ellen. Let’s just watch them fry themselves for awhile. That’s what the Democrats did to Bush and the Republicans. It worked.

  11. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Anna, almost anything This Woman touches turns ugly. The list of formerly decent men turned into damaged goods gets longer and longer by the day. Ermita is just one of them.
    Look what she did to Bunye, Defensor, Nachura, Senga, Mayuga…to name just a few.

  12. Ellen:

    Now, I got it why Ermita contacted Lacson. It’s probably because the woman involved is the same woman recently seen frequenting the palace lately, and used to be Lacson’s tormentor! Tama ba? Matagal na palang tsismis ito. But if this will not help remove the Bansot, forget it. Wala ring silbi!

  13. vic vic

    Under a common sense of Public Ethics, engaging in extracurricular between unrelated individuals in public services maybe deemed as conflict of interests and is against the Public Service Ethical Conduct. And if it involves currying favours in exchange of “hot potatoes” then it is corruptions of the first degree. If both participants here are free to indulge in the ‘pleasure of nature’ without the expense of public funds or compromising the security of the state, then we have no business, except maybe their own morals and their own personal risks, otherwise, it’s all our business, including that of Secretary Ermita, Senator Lacson, Pres. Arroyo and Everyone….even Miguel and Luli..

  14. hindinapinoy hindinapinoy

    hot mama, hot papa…..public ethics…..

    hindi na nakaka-gulat yang kabitan, walang kwenta yan sa pinoy. ipinagyayabang pa yan. kahit si fvr, may kabit.

    PUBLIC ETHICS!

    Investigating Estrada
    Millions, Mansions and Mistresses

    edited by Sheila S. Coronel

    THE PHILIPPINE Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ) began its research on President Joseph Estrada’s wealth in the first quarter of 2000. The direction of our research was determined by what could be documented. Thus, one track of our investigation focused on the acquisition of real estate and the construction of houses. The second track focused on the formation of corporations by members of President Estrada’s various families.

    What we found was a President who accumulated so much money in his first two-and-a-half years in office that he was able to purchase, through dummies and shell companies, over P2 billion worth of real estate for his various wives and children. We also found a pattern of corporate formation by presidential mistresses. We uncovered 66 companies in which Estrada, his wives and children were listed as incorporators or board members.

    Fourteen of these companies alone have assets of over P600 million. Yet the President declared a net worth of only P35.8 million in 1999 and a net income of only P2.3 million that same year.

    Our findings on President Estrada’s unexplained wealth and his propensity for acquiring real estate and building mansions were published in a series of articles in the second half of 2000. In October 2000, three of the PCIJ’s reports were included in the impeachment complaint against the President.

    Investigating Estrada collects in one volume the PCIJ’s groundbreaking investigations on Estrada’s wealth. It also includes articles that examine the President’s unorthodox lifestyle, his keen appreciation of the perks of public office, his “Midnight Cabinet,” and his use of the powers of the presidency to enrich himself.

  15. hindinapinoy, am re-posting the following:

    Hindipinoy,

    You’ve just mapped out the various possible political scenarios starring some warring political lords in the Philippines. Havind done that, you know more or less what’s or who’s in store for one and all scenarios.

    What or which would you choose knowing that if you don’t make a choice you will be contributing to a greater evil whichever way. So, tell us, what would you do? It’s easy to sit on the side undecided… would you take the tough route and choose from among them?

    Or would you opt for one of the typical pagka-pinoy attitudes or sintomas and turn your back, be apathetic, and tell yourself, after all, they’re all the same so why bother?

    Why not let us into your own wiser thoughts, you who aren’t Pinoy any longer?

  16. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Who needs Lorena Bobbit’s advice?

  17. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    For Hot Papa, et al-the case of cheating husband.

    Lorena Bobbitt, severed his penis while he slept with an eight-inch carving knife. Lorena Bobbitt then drove away, tossing the penis out her car window. A search ensued to locate the missing member, which eventually was found and surgically reattached. The incident led to a trial where Lorena Bobbitt was found innocent by reason of insanity.

  18. This reminds me of a time when my father took me to the Philippine Congress to watch a session in connection with a report I was going to do for our Social Studies class. I was in Grade IV or V at that time.

    I bet you, my father wanted to cover my ears, because of the obscenity or so my father thought of the topic of the day there.

    A Congressman was being criticized and reprimanded for his open philandering. When someone threatened to have him impeached for immorality, he blurted out something to this effect, “Mga p—ina ninyo! Nagmamalinis pa kayo. Sige, tanggalin ninyo ako, papatanggal ko rin kayo!”

    In other words, hindi lang kasi siya ang babaero! But at that time, I actually did not understand what they were talking about. I was frightened by the shouting and I thought they were going to box one another right there and then.

    I guess it was what made me hate politics and politicians.

  19. Kilala ko yan pero ayaw kong pasakitin ang ulo ni Ellen. It was only in a recent blog that the names were mentioned.

  20. hindinapinoy hindinapinoy

    anna, re-posting….
    hindinapinoy Says:

    November 10th, 2006 at 4:24 am

    Anna,
    First of all, I would like to express my appreciation for your interest in my views. And you have never accused anyone of being a paid internet brigade. You’ve earned my respect and more power to you. My thoughts…..

    The political scenarios you’re trying to create here will only perpetuate the current situation. A different group will just take over. No matter how you shuffle the deck,
    The kings and Queens will still come from the same deck of cards. Look, open your
    eyes. I know you mean well fro the Philippines. I do too. I was a victim of Marcos’
    Martial law and I’ve seen with my own eyes the evil of military rule.

    Sad to say, but the only solution would be to throw away the old deck of cards INCLUDING everybody. I know. It’s not realistic. But that’s the only SURE way.

    In my view, SHORT-TERM solution would be to wait till the current occupants of Malacanang’s tenure is over BUT, and that’s where the pinoys should be vigilant,
    HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE for their corruptions. Document them. And when their term is over,the next administration should file cases against them RIGHT AWAY!, left and right, up, down, middle till their loot runs dry. Put them in jail. Have no mercy.

    Why not now? We have witnessed EDSA 1 and EDSA 2 didn’t work. Another EDSA type of change will only make the Philippines a Bona Fide BANANA REPUBLIC. And I am afraid it will be bloody this time (military factions?). And the kings and queens will
    Still be from the same deck. Who do you think should occupy Malacanang? Erap?, Susan Roces? Kabayan? Loren? Elections? Again, same kings and queens.

    Bite the bullet if you must………………
    Enrile, Honasan, Tatad, Lacson, Ermita, Marcoses, etc – the Marcos era gang should go.
    Pick anybody that’s new. Party or affiliation doesn’t matter.
    Pick anybody who is ‘harmless’ – even if they’ve done nothing. No harm no foul.

    Still, the effort is futile. The ‘masa’ outnumbers the middle-class (the THINKING electorate) by a HUGE margin. And the ‘masa’ vote with their stomach. If not, based on previous trends, they will vote for the name they recognize – more than likely it would be a celebrity or worse, a trapo politician. I bet you, PACQUAIO will win hands down if ever he decides to run for ANY public office.

  21. Just finished watching in Spanish Allen’s speech conceding the Virginia race for the Senate to a Democrat. I wonder when something like this will happen to the Philippines.

    The defeat of the Republican is very clearly a vote of no-confidence in Dubya, who thinks that he can appease the American public by just removing Rumsfeld.

    Bush and Blair should step down as a matter of fact even before their terms are over. At least, Koizumi has stepped down before it was made clear that Bush made a terrible mistake in Iraq. Still, Koizumi cannot wash his hands off this Iraq scandal when the time comes that they are tried in an international court for crimes against humanity. That will be the day indeed.

    BTW, the Intenrational Criminal Tribunal for Iraq has actually found the Bansot guilty for her role in Iraq.

    She may still turn out to be the first president of the Philippines, bogus though she is, to be convicted and executed by a firing squad for not only her legal responsibility for the war on Iraq but also for her crimes against the Filipino people.

    Iyan ang gusto niya, di ba, ang malagay sa history books!

  22. hindinapinoy,

    Any suggestions on how we could educate the electorate? Although some of the “masa” is now more discerning, majority still suffers from the personality politics syndrome.

  23. Talaga naman! Lacson being considered as a candidate for the administration’s senatorial slate? Golly, ano iyan pingpong! Palipat-lipat? Akala ko ba immortal enemies itong si Lacson at iyong mag-asawang ganid? Matapos siyang siraan, kakampi si Lacson kay Bansot? Heaven forbid!

    Ang daming qualified, hindi dapat pagtiyagaan ang mga ungas na iyan! Graft and corruption galore!!! 😡

  24. Pacquiao? In an interview with a Japanese media last year, he said he would run for Mayor in his hometown. He bragged that the ganid couple were encouraging him to run. So what?

  25. chi chi

    ystakei,

    We lived in Richmond VA (our first stop here) when Allen was on his last year as congressman. He was very popular, and democrats never had a chance winning there as long as Allen was visible. Then to the senate, he won handily. His popularity started to wane only three months ago, not because of his Iraq support, but many believed it was because of a very stupid thing… calling an indian descent staff of him, MACACA. He profusely apologized to his staff and the nation, but that was his end.
    Republicans pinned their hopes to cling on to Senate via Allen (VA was a traditional Republican) when they lost in Montana. Allen was the last to concede because there was 2 or 3 recounts, was really too close to call…only over a thousand difference.

    Anyway, Allen was man enough to offer a sincere apology and worked on that apology…the tianak apologized for the Garci incident, but never was sincere, and patuloy pa rin ang pang-aapi sa mga pinoy.

  26. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Easy ka lang, Yuko. If there’s anyone who is consistent with his principles, it’s Lacson. Never na kakampi iyan kay Gloria lalo na kung buhay pa si Tabang Lamig. Ang sabihin mo, kinikumbinsi lang ni Ermita na huwag sumama si Lacson sa coalition ng opposition, dahil hindi pa nga siya kinakausap nila Binay. Mas gusto ng Palasyo na magkawatak-watak sila kung hindi nila isasama si Lacson, kaya malamang, may offer si Ermita ng pondo para sa kampanya ni Lacson, wag lang sumama sa grupo ni Erap.

    At dahil kilala ko si Lacson, siguradong tatanggihan niya ang ganoong alok basta huwag lang siyang ilalaglag ng sarili niyang grupo (Binay’s). Ang meeting na iyon ay ginawang highly-visible at neutral. Hindi mo makikita si Lacson na patraydor na makikipag-meeting ng patago sa mga taong nasa grupo ng kalaban.

    Iyon lang.

  27. hindinapinoy hindinapinoy

    ystakei,
    in politics, there’s no such thing as
    ‘mortal’ enemies….only estranged bedfellows.

  28. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Teka, Ellen. putris! Ligaw ako dito sa blog na ito a. Waaaaa! Clueless ako!

  29. chi chi

    Tongue: naman, naman, naman, hehehehe!

  30. hindinapinoy hindinapinoy

    schumey Says:

    November 10th, 2006 at 4:40 am

    hindinapinoy,

    Any suggestions on how we could educate the electorate? Although some of the “masa” is now more discerning, majority still suffers from the personality politics syndrome.

    schumey, sa tingin ko dapat umpisahan agad. sa paaralan pa lamang, turuan na. Ituro ang maganda (history ng mga bayani) at mahalaga, ipakita rin ang mga pangit at kabulukan – maaaring ipakita ang maganda at pangit na nangyari sa panahon ni marcos upang maihambing sa nagyayari sa kasalukuyan.

  31. Hindinapinoy,

    Appreciate your inputs.

    Re: “sa paaralan pa lamang, turuan na… maaaring ipakita ang maganda at pangit na nangyari sa panahon ni marcos upang maihambing sa nagyayari sa kasalukuyan.”

    That’s a worthwhile initiative; inculcating strong MORAL AND CIVIC values through real-life historical events.

    Somehow, what you say makes enormous sense but I didn’t read your take on Gloria. Am I right to think that you perhaps think she is the lesser of “all evils” you’ve cited?

  32. hindinapinoy hindinapinoy

    anna,
    Ito ang sinabi ko sa taas na dapat gawin sa mga buwaya sa malacanang……(cut and pasted)

    In my view, SHORT-TERM solution would be to wait till the current occupants of Malacanang’s tenure is over BUT, and that’s where the pinoys should be vigilant,
    HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE for their corruptions. Document them. And when their term is over,the next administration should file cases against them RIGHT AWAY!, left and right, up, down, middle till their loot runs dry. Put them in jail. Have no mercy.

    PUT THEM IN JAIL! HAVE NO MERCY! (added for emphasis).

  33. hindinapinoy hindinapinoy

    anna de brux Says:

    November 10th, 2006 at 6:09 am

    Hindinapinoy,

    Appreciate your inputs.

    Re: “sa paaralan pa lamang, turuan na… maaaring ipakita ang maganda at pangit na nangyari sa panahon ni marcos upang maihambing sa nagyayari sa kasalukuyan.”

    That’s a worthwhile initiative; inculcating strong MORAL AND CIVIC values through real-life historical events.

    ——————————————————
    anna,
    In America, elementary grade schools conduct mock elections right before the country’s real elections. The kids vote for REAL candidates, local and national just like real elections.

  34. The ‘short term’ solution that you speak of will mean Pinas has to agonize for another 4 years of rampant corruption and what have you.

    I think it’s a long haul and is not good enough.

    I believe Gloria should be thumped royally next year (the short term solution) and then impeached, indicted, etc. without waiting till her term is over.

    It will signal to the children of the baby boomer generation (for they are the the rightful heirs and replacement) that Pinas means business. You yourself said that things should be learned as early as possible. What better way than next year at the latest while the baby boomer kids are just getting into the political arena.

    The hemorrhaging has got to stop – moral, civic, political, financial hemorrhage.

    While I stop short of recommending a surgical solution, I do believe that the situation is so dramatic that people must not dilly-dally. The future of 2 generations, are at stake. The crop of current potential leaders (the age range of Cayetano and company) and the ones immediately below them.

    If Gloria is not stopped soon enough, she is capable of instauring a devastating legacy that can corrupt the generation still unborn…

  35. I know Hindinapinoy, I spent the early part of my childhood and grade school years in the US.

  36. ocayvalle ocayvalle

    GMA,FG and her cabinet,are all stink and should be drain on the sinker,they are all masteral degree or doctorateand magna cum laude when it comes to lying and twisting fact`s,harelip defensor is famous for being a magician and a ventroloquist when he present his expert drug craze tiongco with his famous line”yes thats GMA`s voice but shes not the one talking”now we have mr ermita the octogenarian old man who look`s like a drift wood who came from a long long sleep like rip van winkle,speaking on the media that atong ang will be jailed side by side with erap in his place in tanay..the old man the look alike of rip van winkle mr ermita lies again to the filipino`s,isn`t that erap is on house arrest and erap owns his rest house in tanay??and that is a private property.. so he is making a big scenario to show to the filipinos that erap is in cahoot with atong ang!! what a lier this people are..so corrupt and so evil,that they could murder and kill innocent people just to stay in power..i pray hard so much that this people will be ousted the soonest!!or they never wake again,especially you mr rip van winkle..ermita!!

  37. hindinapinoy hindinapinoy

    anna de brux Says:

    November 10th, 2006 at 7:07 am

    The ’short term’ solution that you speak of will mean Pinas has to agonize for another 4 years of rampant corruption and what have you.

    I think it’s a long haul and is not good enough.

    I believe Gloria should be thumped royally next year (the short term solution) and then impeached, indicted, etc. without waiting till her term is over.

    anna,
    Agreed. Tha’s the proper way. Not another EDSA nor a coup.

  38. hindinapinoy hindinapinoy

    Anna,
    my mistake. i thought gloria’s term will end in 2 years. si bush pala yun. salamat naman at matatapos na ang barkada ni bush. at least ngayon, kahit mag urong-sulong dahil sa gridlock, the democrats can check his moves.

  39. cheska1love cheska1love

    Hi Tita! I was googling on the net & this site popped up. Wow! Juicy stuff. Sex scandals galore. Don’t know these people, but it smells bad. Good to see you’re stirring the pot. 🙂 How are you?

  40. Hi Ches, I’m so happy to have your email. I’ll write you.

  41. Anna:

    Marcos, in fact, saved Macapagal for taking the blame for the economic chaos he left Filipinos of my generation (my professor’s words) and more generations to come for the sad state he left the country in when Marcos took over the reins of government.

    The Bansot even brags that she is taking after the footsteps of her father, who gained the title of the first globetrotting Philippine president asking for loans, etc. and paying loans with the borrowed money and keeping the rest of it to himself that the poor boy from Lubao was able to buy a house at Forbes Park that no president of the Philippines, not even Marcos, had been able to emulate so far except the Bansot.

    Kawawang bansa! Lahat na lang ba kurakot? One advice to Philippine voters: Make sure the one you’re voting has no record of philandering or committing fornication and adultery! Iyan mga iyan ang matatakaw na magnakaw as a matter of fact because of a lot many mouths to feed!!!

  42. hindinapinoy hindinapinoy

    In the 1960s, after several years of an import substitution industrialization (ISI) program, the Philippines was often seen as the next Japan. Key to this ISI program was foreign exchange controls: the government regulated what could be imported. Although there was corruption and related problems, the program was generally quite successful: by 1960, the country could boast of a moderate industrial base, and manufacturing contributed almost 18% of the total national production. In the most detailed economic analysis of the period, neoliberal analyst Frank Golay concluded, There can be little question of sustained economic growth well in excess of population growth.

    But the foreign exchange controls limited importation of luxury goods for the rich—which had almost bankrupted the country in the late 1940s—and the maintenance of the artificially high, US-set (prior to political independence in 1946) but Filipino government-maintained exchange rate of two pesos to the dollar ($1: P2), hurt the politically powerful agricultural exporters: their products were priced out of international markets. They lobbied and eventually won a governmental agreement that the exchange controls would be abolished by 1964.

    Upon taking office in January 1962, however, President Diosdado Macapagal immediately ended these foreign exchange controls. The economy went into the tank. When examined by industrial sector, economic growth between 1962-66 was far below that of 1950-60 in almost every sector. The country had to borrow $300 million from the IMF to prevent a currency crisis as foreign profits were repatriated. The peso floated and had to be officially devalued to $1:P3.9 in 1965. And manufacturing share of GDP decreased from 17.9% in 1962 to 7.1% in 1965.

    To solve the problems caused by the ending of the exchange controls, the World Bank and IMF pushed the Philippines to adopt an export-oriented industrialization (EOI) strategy. Upon assuming office in 1966, Ferdinand Marcos began initiating such a project; however, nationalist resistance was so strong that it was only when Marcos declared Martial Law in 1972 that the EOI program was initiated. The World Bank was crucial in this process: where the Bank had provided the Philippines with only $326 million between 1950 and 1972, it provided over $2.6 billion between 1973 and 1981.

    Philippine growth—and there has been growth—has been debt dependent. Philippine foreign debt grew from $599.5 million in 1965, to $2.2 billion in 1972, to $12.7 billion in 1980, to $24.6 billion by October 1983. This was 41 times its debt in 1965, 11 times its debt in 1972, 91% of the 1983 GNP, and 509% of its total export earnings. Debt per capita grew from $18.90 in 1965 to $474.10 in 1983! (Using data from October 1983 excludes much of the turmoil that developed in response to the assassination of Senator Benigno Aquino in August 1983.)

    Economic growth was uneven. While GNP growth rate increased throughout the 1970s, it fell from 6.8% in 1979 to 4.4% in 1980, 3.7% in 1981, 2.7% in 1982, and was 1.4% in 1983. The balance of trade had run a deficit from 1950, but the deficit reached -$1.2 million in 1975, and was over -$2.6 billion by 1982. Balance of payments fluctuated from $164 million in 1977 to -$1.6 billion. In other words, by neoliberal criteria themselves, the World Bank-inspired program was a major failure by 1983.

    But let’s look at the situation at the end of 1986, after Marcos had been deposed. External debt was $27.2 billion, with a debt to GNP ratio of 90%, and debt per capita of $485. Interest payments on the debt were greater than new loans in each of the years 1983, 1984, 1985 and 1986. GDP/capita is another indicator that is illustrative: in 1962, Philippine GDP/capita had been ahead of every other SE Asian economy except Malaysia, was ahead of South Korea, and barely behind Taiwan; by 1986, not only was it behind South Korea and Taiwan, but it was behind Thailand and only barely ahead of Indonesia.

  43. florry florry

    Hot Mama, Hot Papa, smells like a good movie material. Sa title pa lang parang isang sex movie at siguradong patok at box-office hit sa takilya. Ellen kung saiyo ang title na yan i-registered mo na baka may magkainterest pang film producer at gawing pelikula.

    Based on clues that were spelled out, I think, everybody has an inkling or some kind of an idea who are the characters involved.

    The RAT is a young cabinet member, masyadong madada and sometimes he put his foot in his mouth.

    The senior cabinet member portrays an image as a cool, calm but calculated as the lover who is considered not only indispensable by the queen, but holds the key to the many secrets of the Pidals.

    The other woman, if she is a member of the consultative commission, iisa yong alam kong babae na member sa commission.

    This affair, if true is just for convenience of both parties. For the man, it’s just lust for sex to satisfy his sexual appetite. For the woman, it’s purely because of business. Alam niyang powerful si lalaki and she can used him as the stepping stone to corner some business from the government, kaya ipino-prostitute niya ang katawan niya, total enjoy din siya siguro, kaya it’s just like having her cake and eat it too.
    Inside the cabinet, elbowing one another is their game nowadays, but there will come a time na yong sikuhan ay mauuwi sa tadyakan at kasabihan nga, matira ang matibay-matibay na in the sense na walang-hiya, makapal ang mukha, at matibay ang sikmura.
    Sa kaso ng mga lovers, sabi nga ni Ellen, matatanda na sila at wala tayong pakialam, kaya lang pera ng bayan ang isinusugal at nakapusta at malamang matatalo na naman ang bayan.
    Sa gulo at awayan, sabi uli ni Ellen, the opposition can help themselves and for once, to shut up, sit back, relax, watch and enjoy.

  44. Hindinapinoy: In the 1960s, after several years of an import substitution industrialization (ISI) program, the Philippines was often seen as the next Japan.

    *****
    Oh yeah! Or was it the other way around? That is because Japan was no powerful country at that time even with the Tokyo Olympics in 1964, which re-introduced Japan to the world, not as a future economic power but just another one of the US satellites in Asia, and reason why no one seems to want to come and work in Japan then, with or without the strict and protective Japanese Immigration Law.

    In the 60’s, Japan was still in the process of recovering from the rubbles of the war, and in search of ways and means to meet the deadline for paying its debts to all the countries it occupied in WWII. The Philippines was in fact better off than Japan with the US making sure that it wouldget the biggest reparations payments to help make it the the ideal and strongest US partner in Asia.

    When I first came to Japan to claim my place in the rising sun, the exchange rate was 360 yen to a dollar while the peso that was 2 pesos to a dollar was being floated from 3.9 pesos to a dollar. In short, it was kind of mano a mano, but for reason everybody knows, Japan suddenly emerged as the little ant that can fatally bite anyone especially after the popular Osaka ’70 Expo. Poor Philippines lagged behind even behind Vietnam that the Americans destroyed with their napalms and DUD bombs!

    Still, I would not like to be like this native of the Philippines who does not like to be a Filipino anymore. With a new breed of Filipinos with no strong ties with America since the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo, I know there is hope for the Philippines to be a great free nation.

    We just have to make sure the bansot will not try to own it as her own, and declare herself as its queen with a greedy and boisterous fatso by her side. Ang sagwang tignan sa totoo lang! Buti na lang humahabol sa taba iyong bansot.

    I challenge all Philippine historians to make sure the bansot does not make another silly claim that one of her ancestors rode a white horse from Babuyan Island to Sulu, and marked all the places that he passed through as his own!!!

    Gago din iyong Curator sa Manila Archives to go along with this stupid fantasy of the squatters in the palace by the murky river about owning a whole town in Rizal. Ang tindi talaga ng tupak sa ulo! Kundi pa natin alam na magnanakaw na sinungaling pa.

    Frankly, I was tempted to challenge then faker at the Manila Archives to prove my ancestry after he claimed that the bansot was descended from Lakan Dula that was never heard of when her father was running from office even when he claimed in his book that he was descended from Alexander the Great, which was a great fantasy indeed that I, myself, my history teacher claimed Filipinos had link with.

    I, myself, had travelled around the world to search on my genealogy as a religious duty in fact as we are required to prepare at least a 5-generation genealogy in our church for temple works. Iyong nga lang 5-generation genealogy nahirapan na ako, iyong pang kababalaghang sinasabi ng mga uwak na ito na nag-i-squatter sa Malacanang? Ang tindi talaga sa totoo lang! Ang tindi ng tupak sa ulo!!!

    PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! IPASOK NA SA MANDALUYONG, PUEDE BA?

  45. Florry,

    Sino ba ang suspicion mo? Pakitsismis nga! Ooops, huwag mo palang ilabas dito kasi baka idagdag kay Ellen ang kaso! Bigay ka na lang ng hint.

  46. Mrivera Mrivera

    re: hindinapinoy’s sa paaralan pa lang …..

    mabuti sana kung hindi bulgar ang mga kawalanghiyaan ng mga nasa malakanyang na nagiging gawang halimbawa sa mga mag-aaral.

    ang mga estudyante naman, maririnig mo, sasabihin – upang makatulong sa mga nangangailangan, pero kapag nakatapos na, ang karamihan ay nagkakaroon na ng sakit na limot. ang iba sa mga sikat na abogado, dalubhasang doktor, mga propesyunal na yumaman at mga kilalang tao sa mundo ng pulitika ay nalango sa espiritu ng tagumpay at nabulag sa kinang ng salapi. isama na rito ang ilang mga nakapagtatag ng spiritual ministry na ginagawang kasangkapan ang salita ng diyos upang magpayaman at naging patotoong himala dahil sa paglobo ng kanilang kaban.

    at saka bakit laging si marcos lang? paano ang ama ni gloria? ang iba pang mga naging presidente pagkatapos ni marcos? ang mga kamag-anak? ang mga katulad ni sabit singson? at kung sino sino pang mga oportunista?

  47. Florry:

    Isa lang ang babaing nakita kong nasa Cabinet ni Bansot a. Alabastro ang pangalan. Matanda na at hindi naman siguro papatol kay Bingot, pero puedeng kumaliwa doon sa ibang mga kasama niya. Kaya lang mukhang straight pagdating sa kaliwaan. Ang masama nga lang ay pumayag siyang sumama kay Bansot alam naman niyang peke.

    Sabi nga ng wiz sa Harry Potter, “Curioser and curioser!” Maganda ito pag may nagsabunutan at nagbarilan. Meron akong kakilalang opisyal ng Philippine trade department noon na galing sa Tokyo, may pinatos na staff din yata ng trade department, nahuli ng asawa, binaril. Natamaan sa spinal cord. Lumpo ang labas! Pati doon nalumpo. Addict siguro sa sex, hindi nakatiis, namatay sa lungkot!

  48. anthony scalia anthony scalia

    The post-war economic miracle of Japan is due to the collective efforts of the Japanese people. Government, particularly the powerful MITI, had nothing to do with it.

  49. Elvira Sahara Elvira Sahara

    We’re just way,way, behind over here! Over Hot Mama..Hot Papa..got no clue at all! So, I am just exactly very obedient at this time… just read..shut up…relax…but keep watch!
    I have visitors from US to keep me busy for the mean time…( though am really very, very curious over this item…hot na hot…!).

  50. Paaralan pa lang dapat umpisahan na sabi ni hindinapinoy, pero papaano tuturuan ang mga bata na hindi naman makapasok sa eskuwela. Golly, nagdudugo ang puso ko sa mga nababasa kong sulat sa mga pilipinong nakakulong sa Japan na ang mga anak ay hindi na makapag-aral. Hindi makabayad ng matrikula ang mga magulang, kahit matalino, hindi pinapakuha ng test, papaanong papasa iyan.

    Ni walang welfare program para man lamang makapag-aral ang mga mahirap mula grade I hanggang 9th Grade katulad dito sa Japan o kahit na sa America. Golly, pinapairal pa sa mga bata na walang kuwentang mag-aral sa public school kaya iyong mga mahirap, ayaw talagang pumasok kundi sila papasok sa private school daw. Tinuturuan pa ng kayabangan!

    Dito nga may libreng pagpapaalaga ng mga batang mahirap para makapagtrabaho ang mga magulang. Tapos, kapag apat na taon na sinasabihan ang mga magulang na ipasok ang mga anak sa Kindergarten (Yochien) para matotong makisama at kumilos bilang grupo. Tapos pag dating ng 6 years hindi puede hindi ipasok sa mababang paaralan. Kung walang ipangtustos ang mga magulang, binibigyan ng tulong. Kung hindi ipasok sa paaralan ang bata, kinakasuhan ang mga magulang batay sa ginawang Child Welfare Law noong 1947. Nakakapagtaka ni walang ganyan sa Pilipinas. Puro yabang lang!

    Hindi mga ordinaryong tao ang may kasalanan. Ang sisi ay dapat na ipataw doon sa mahihilig pumasok sa politika para magnakaw lang pero wala namang alam gawin na iba para sa kapakanan ng bansa at mga kababayan nila.

    In fact, talking to these Philippine officials I have met in Japan, etc., I have the impression that majority are braggish with nothing in their coconuts despite the titles, degrees, etc. that they claim to have. Puro palabas lang, publicity and empty talks. Pero wala namang ibubuga! Iyong mga gustong gumawa na dapat naman, walang source para maisagawa ang balak nila dahil ang patakaran ng mga powerful na ungas, hindi ka makikisama sa kanila, wala kang pondo!

    Hindi iyan alam ng ordinaryong tao kung walang magsasabi sa kanila. itinanim pa sa ulo nila na wala silang say lalo na kung ipapasa iyong Constitution na ginawa ni Abueva, et al. Gosh, sobra ang matapobre! Bakit papayag ang mga pilipino na palitan ang Constitution ng isang Constitution na nag-aalis ng karapatan sa mga mahirap, at mga walanghiya pang itinatamin sa utak ng lahat na kung mahirap ka bobo ka, kaya hindi ka puedeng makialam sa pamamalakad ng pamahalaan.

    Hindi ako naniniwala diyan. I have met a lot of unschooled people who have rose to prominence in Japan and UK. Hindi naman kailangan magkaroon ng PhD para ipakita ng isang tao ang dunong niya. Iyong nga boba sa Malacanang may PhD pero hindi naman yata marunong magbilang!!!

    Iyong dating PM ng Japan na si Tanaka na nakatulong sa pagiging economic power ng Japan ay 6th Grade lang. Ganoon din iyong mga nagtayo ng kompaniyang Sony, Honda at Matsushita (Panasonic, etc.), Grade 6 lang ang mga natapos niyan. Mas bobo pa nga sa tingin ko ang gumawa ng Constitution na gustong isupalpal sa mga pilipino sa totoo lang.

    “The glory of God is intelligence,” sabi nga. In short, ang talino ay biyaya ng Diyos. Hindi iyan dapat na ipagyabang o maliitin. Sobrang yabang, tigilan na!

  51. cvj cvj

    “With a new breed of Filipinos with no strong ties with America since the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo, I know there is hope for the Philippines to be a great free nation.” – Yuko

    Agree 100%!

  52. CVJ,

    I have observed the difference in fact in the children born after Mt. Pinatubo from the Filipinos born before and after WWII. You can see they are freer, less attachment to America although I wish they would stop saying, “I want to work overseas when I grow older.”

  53. hindinapinoy,

    Thanks for the inputs. I must admit this is what’s lacking in the curriculum today. As early as my grade school years, even if the country was under martial law, we were taught about what was happening around us. Unfortunately, such is not case now. Back then, we had freewheeling discussions about politics both local an international. We even conducted debates and had elections. You are right, bata pa lamang dapat ng turuan.

  54. A Scalia: The post-war economic miracle of Japan is due to the collective efforts of the Japanese people. Government, particularly the powerful MITI, had nothing to do with it.

    *****

    Ang hirap sa iyo Scalia, hindi mo iniintindi ang sinusulat ng mga bloggers dito. Gusto mo kainin lang namin ang mga sinasabi mo. Sinabi ko na ngang ang mga tao ang gobyerno dito. Ang mga ibinoboto namin o binabayaran ng taxpayers’ money namin ay public servants. On the other hand, all are required to abide by the laws and Constitution of the land. Walang puedeng magmagaling na katulad ng ginagawa ng bobang nakaupo sa Malacanang. Kaya dito, hindi uubra ang asal noong Dambuhalang Hambug na akala mo siya ang may-ari ng Pilipinas. Get mo?

  55. Vic,

    Public ethics? Wala niyan ang mga ungas! Kabit nga dini-display pa.

    Over here, despite the bad reputation of Japanese tourists, who go on sex tours overseas, philandering is a big taboo in the government. It can be ground for impeachment even when it is just a rumor.

    Two administrations away, ex-PM Mori was forced to step down because his defense minister was rumored to have had an affair. Tapos na iyong affair, but it was considered improper to be appointing someone with a shady background. Reason given was it would be detrimental to the maintenance of public trust. It resulted in an immediate regime change and a lot ofinvestigations to prove that no one was committing the same mistakes and committing fornications!

    It is purely public ethics, nothing to do with religion.

  56. norpil norpil

    hindinapinoy: Thank you too for your very enlightening info.When it comes to what is wrong and right, one learn it mostly at home. it does not also help so much about discussing things if one is afraid like in the martial law period.it was under martial law that phil economy took a real downturn considering the comparison between korea and pinas. Both countries were under martial law as far as i remember but s.korea had a military dictator and not corrupt.do you think a military dictator can be the answer to pinas? at least we have not tried this yet. or maybe a communist takeover?there will at least be equality that everybody is poor.

  57. chi chi

    ystakei Says:

    November 10th, 2006 at 4:53 pm

    Paaralan pa lang dapat umpisahan na sabi ni hindinapinoy, pero papaano tuturuan ang mga bata na hindi naman makapasok sa eskuwela.

    Bukod pa diyan, ystakei, ano ang uumpisahang ituro sa panahon ni Master Cheater Glueria…ang magnakaw, mangopya, magsinungaling. mandaya, etc.etc.etc., all that’s not supposed to be taught in school?

    Pabilisin ang pag-alis/pagbagsak kay Glue ang dapat unahin, at kung wala na siya at mailagay sa pwesto ay tapat na magseserbisyo sa bansa, kahit meron siyang maliit na shortcomings, saka pa lamang mauumpisahan ang mga tumpak na aralin sa eskwelahan.

    Sa panahong ito ng mandaraya na pati ang mga maliliit na bata at alam na alam ang kanyang ginagawa, ano ang isasagot ng pupil sa titser kung sabihin nito na hindi tama ang mandaya sa pagsusulit? Tiyak mapapahiya kundi man matatawa ang titser pag sinagot siya ng bata na “eh bakit po M’am ang Pangulo ay mandaraya?’

    “maaaring ipakita ang maganda at pangit na nangyari sa panahon ni marcos upang maihambing sa nagyayari sa kasalukuyan”

    Sa panahon ni Marcos, baka may masilip pang maganda ang mga bata kahit konti. Sa panahon ng mandaraya at mandarambong na Glueria, bad example talaga s’ya sa mga bata, at wala ni katiting na magandang mahahagip ang mga pupils.

  58. hot mama, hot papa…..public ethics…..

    hindi na nakaka-gulat yang kabitan, walang kwenta yan sa pinoy. ipinagyayabang pa yan. kahit si fvr, may kabit.

    PUBLIC ETHICS!

    Investigating Estrada
    Millions, Mansions and Mistresses

    edited by Sheila S. Coronel

    well, erap’s already out of power and is currently on trial.

    but when will your boss/maam GMA face trial, dinapinoy?

  59. Sinabi mo pa, Chi. Bad example ang ipinapakita ng ungas na ito. Aakalain ng mga bata na mabuti ang magdala ng kodigo pag may test sila, at saka dayaan galore ang itinuturo sa mga musmos. Parang katulad iyan ng mga batang nakausap ko noong 2001 nang magpunta ako sa Pilipinas. Biglang nagdagsaan ang mga Japayuki nang pumalit si Bansot kay Erap who was already phasing out the Japayuki as a matter of fact. Nang tanungin ko ang isang batang hindi pa nag-aaral kung ano ang gusto niyang maging ano siya paglaki niya, biglang sabi ba naman sa akin na hindi kumukurap ang mga mata, “Ma’m gusto ko pong maging isang Japayuki!”

    Susmaryosep! Bakit hindi niya alam na ang ibig sabihin ng “Japayuki” ay putatsing? Komo ba sinabi ng isang Japayuki na hindi siya nagpuputa sa Japan, maniniwala na sila. Ilan na ang nahawakan naming kaso ng mga pilipina na pinipilit na makipag-sex sa mga customer nila sa mga “dohan” (date with customers) na kailagan nilang gawin at least twice a week (standard ito ha)? Bakit hindi iyan alam ng mga nakaupo at hindi nila pinapahinto? Hirit? Ang sagot dahil kakuchaba sila sa pagbebenta ng mga kababayan nilang babae sa ibang bansa lalo na sa Japan until last year when the new Immigration Law was implemented at sa South Korea naman ngayon.

    Kawawang bansa!

    BTW, ang simbahan namin ay nagtayo ng job training center sa Davao na nabalita sa church news namin noong isang araw. Sa palagay ko meron din noon sa Maynila.

  60. chi chi

    ystakei,nahuhuli yata ako sa balita pag dating sa putatsing news :).
    Sa Korea na ba kamo ngayon? Alam mo ba na katatawag ng New Yorker pinay friend ko, na ang mga TNT raw dito sa USA kung bumibisita ngayon sa Pinas, ang ginagamit na eroplano ay via Korean Airlines. I don’t know how true, but once nag-landing ang eroplano sa Pinas airport, meron daw kaagad na sumasalubong na immigration official/s sa mga TNTs na ito (may placard yata) at dinadala sa isang kwarto para doon tatakan ang mga passports. One year illegal stay in the US costs a TNT a hundred dollars daw. Eh di kung matagal ng TNT at napakarami, eh di tiba-tiba ang mga airport officials! Susmariaporsiento!
    Could it be one reason also kung bakit marami ng Koreano sa Pinas ngayon, turistas ng ano?

  61. chi chi

    “…or maybe a communist takeover?there will at least be equality that everybody is poor.” (Norpil)

    Norpil, a scholar chinese friend of ours, who scaped the communist China, claimed that there’s also no equality in their kind of communism. Marami din daw mga opisyales sila na mga corrupt at mayayaman, at alam na natin… marami din silang pobres.

    I am kind of bias, I like the form of government of the Scandinivian countries where the people are well taken cared of. Let’s include Netherlands, Belguim (and whatelse).Ang problema lang, these countries are small in size and population, while the Philippines is vast (with so many islands, watak-watak rin) and population is very hard to manage due to lack of political will on the part of the leaders.

    Ang nakakalungkot lang, after more than a hundred years after Jose Rizal, the trapos and their cohorts are still searching for a kind of government that will satisfy them, not the people.

  62. norpil norpil

    chi: i wrote this communist takeover as a comment to hindinapinoy’s quite tough analysis of the possibilities for pinas.what may be ok for other countries is not necessarily ok for all countries and vice versa.pinas is much bigger than scandinavian countries combined, add finland and iceland too and still not enough to match the population of the phil.norway has about the same land area as phil and even longer shoreline.it is not strange therefore that norway has more resources.still they are better in protecting their interests with less than one tenth of the phil population.indeed we can go on and on comparing the pinas to other countries and still wonder why others are doing better.the fact that pinas has many islands can be an advantage with the technology available today..i am not a believer of communism but who knows as you said yourself it is more than a hundred years since rizal..life in the phil had been too easy for our forefathers that we may not have been good in solving technical problems.then we have the heat that somehow stop our mind and body to really work.if only i can, i shall make pinas a holiday country only.juang tamad is not just a fantasy, i think he lives amongst us.still i think the biggest problem is to find the right leader, so i live in hope that the next leader will be a good one who can change this bad circle we are in.

  63. kitamokitako kitamokitako

    Chi, iyang mga immigration officials siguro diskarte din nila yan para kumita. Si Glue, mga tongressmen at iba pang mga ganid sa gabinete may kani-kanilang diskarte na pagkaka-kwartahan, kaya sabi nila sigura dapat sila ay mayroon din. Kung corrupt sa taas, gagaya ang mga nasa ibaba para masaya rin sila.

  64. You bet, Chi, iyan din ang sabi ng kaibigan kong Chinese na nag-refugee sa Japan hanggang sa makapag-asawa siya ng isang hapon. 1988, parang 40 years ang China noon. Kundi pa na-patronize ang mga cheapies from China, hindi pa sila magkakaroon ng maraming dollar reserves. Pero marami pa ring mga intsik ang nahuhuling nagtatago dito na ang tawag namin ay bilog for overstaying. Salbahe pa ang mga ungas.

    Mga kaibigan kong intsik nga sabi sa akin mismo sila hindi nila sinasabi sa mga nakikilala nilang intsik kung saan sila nakatira kasi baka daw member ng Snakehead Gang. Marami ngang nasa death row dito na mga intsik caught for multiple murder and robbery. Iyan ang trabaho nila, pumatay at magnakaw kahit ng mga kababayan nila dito sa Japan.

    Nakakatakot sa totoo lang. On the other hand, I have no objection to recognition of the communists as a political party as we do in Japan. By political affiliation, I am in fact a Socialist, which is different from a Communist. Locally (for our district assembly for example), I vote for Minshuto which is the Democratic Party of Japan, which is an offshoot of the ruling party Jiminto.

    Maganda dito because they did not adopt MacArthyism here, and everybody is free to get affiliated with parties of their choice.

  65. npongco npongco

    “Hot Mama, Hot Papa” sounds like a title of a porn movie.

  66. chi chi

    yeah Norpil, i know that it was a response to HNP. I had juan tamad’s fingers so just took from there.

    “if only i can, i shall make pinas a holiday country only.”
    Haha! Who knows, i’ll wait for that day when you become head of pinas turismo. But right now, I have in my house here a female Dane friend who was mugged last week while strolling in Boracay beach. I told her not to go yet, but she proceeded anyway. Ayun, bugbog sarado ang pobre.

  67. chi chi

    kitamokitako,

    Itong si Glue Pidal ang tunay na kanser ng lipunan. stage 4 (may stage 5 pa ba?)na, fast spreading, in all directions at walang pinatatawad.

  68. chi chi

    ystakei,

    My Hongkonese classmate’s phd dissertation was all about chinese triad in London. I never imagined the complexity and workings of these chinese undeground characters. Eh parang pelikula, higit pa. Akalain ko ba naman na sa London mismo ay meron nitong mga triad-triad na ito? Kaya lang, after he presented his paper in Hongkong, he disappeared for a while dahil siya naman ang hinahanting ng mga gangs. hahaha!

    Pero bilib din naman ako sa matitinong Chinese. Kahit saang sulok ng mundo ay nandun sila at merong chinese buffet, heheehe.

    Back to topic of communism. Ito naman kasing “lamang lupa” na ito ay binubuhay pa ang isyu ng komunista sa Pilipinas for her survival. Alam naman niya na communism is not the kind of government the Filipinos wanted. The Philippines is known as the only western country in the East that makes communism very difficult to be appreciated by most Filipinos. But I personally am not against representation of a communist group in our congress and senate. Maganda ring ma-educate ang mga pinoy kung ano ang kanilang tunay na paninindigan. Hindi iyong mag-rally lang branded kaagad na komunista ang mga kabataan o kung sino mang merong placard.
    Takot lang talaga ang tianak na ito kaya ma-komunista, or ma-sosyalita ay binabaldado niya.

  69. You bet, Chi, you see Chinese anywhere in the world. They had that monopoly before until Marcos started sending them to the Middle East, and the crooks who ruled the Philippines after him followed suit while they blame him for all the ills of the Philippines, even for their evil deeds!!!

    At least, the Chinese are good cooks. When I lived in UK and fed on potatoes and beans, talagang nangayayat ako. One day, I dreamt of eating rice, iyong pang sinangag na pinoy with garlic and then you eat it with tuyo and talbos ng kamote with tomatoes and bagoong. Next morning, I told my foster Mom about my dream, and that night they took me for dinner at the only one Chinese restaurant at Oxford then. Golly, talaga namang sarap na sarap ako! Pero ang presyo, nakakalula!

    Once a month I would go there and eat the cheapest menu they had that cost me 40 pounds that was about 80 US dollars then x 360 yen. I was getting 450 pounds as stipend plus free board and lodging and other miscellaneous expenses from the British Council, kaya tipid so I can use my money likewise for travelling around Europe and UK to do my genealogy during vacations.

    That was indeed an experience. Para kang napunta sa desert. Nasabik talaga ako sa kanin. Kasi sa States naman, nakakakain naman tayo ng kanin especially when you are with your own family and there are Philippine, Japanese or Oriental food shops around. Nagsawa ako sa potatoes and beans sa UK sa totoo lang.

  70. Speaking of the communists, Chi, over here, the Communist Party is legal and is well represented in the Japanese Diet, but for some reason they cannot be that powerful enough to dominate and become the ruling party. Buti pa nga ang Socialist Party of Japan. At one time, we had a PM who was a socialist, Tomiichi Maruyama, who served as PM in 1994-1996. When his party lost several seats in the 1996 election, he took responsibility for it and resigned because it was a reflection of the sentiments of the voters against his administration.

    For me, Chi, it was indication that the Japanese voters are politically matured enough (none is illiterate because it is compulsory that they obtain at least 9 years of education) to know whom to vote, and with their experience of military rule prior before and during WWII, and examples of stagnant economy despite propaganda, they would not be willing to be subjected to another reign of terror under some crippling ideology. I would not say though that the Communist Party of Japan adhere to such.

    With a very matured voting community, they are forced to behave, and prove themselves useful in checking abuses likely to be committed by the ruling party, especially the Jiminto, which has strong ties with the US.

    It is for this reason why I do not see the logic of this crackdown against the group of Satur Ocampo, et al. whose desire to serve I don’t doubt to be sincere because they definitely do not benefit from the Mafia Gang of JdV and Pidal operating there. Their travels overseas, for instance, when official are financed by NGOs, etc. supporting Bayan Muna. Personal travels they pay on their own.

    It is actually what they want other officials in the Philippine government should be doing, not squander public funds for their gallivanting sprees the way the Pidals, et al brazenly and wantonly do.

    Japan in fact follow the same rule, personal travels are paid by the officials themselves as when they take along their wives with them, and reason why, more often than not, they don’t. Mahigpit dito on reimbursements of expenses. In fact, several years ago, some members of the foreign ministry were sent to jail for overspending during a summit in Okinawa. The Minister of Foreign Affairs likewise was told to step down because of such scandal.

    In most cases, we see a lot of them scandalized hanging themselves in some hotel bathroom or jumping from tall buildings and you feel errie when you pass by such places. Sana ganyan sa Pilipinas. Kailan kaya magbibigti si Bansot at iyong asawa niyang Tabatsoy na ayaw matawag na dambuhala?

  71. npongco npongco

    Every country has its criminal gangs and syndicates. What about the Yakuza? Or Yukoza? Criminal groups have been in existence since time immemorial. To single out a particular country or group of people is not the way to start a topic.

  72. chi chi

    npongco Says:

    November 11th, 2006 at 11:26 am
    “Every country has its criminal gangs and syndicates. What about the Yakuza? Or Yukoza? Criminal groups have been in existence since time immemorial. To single out a particular country or group of people is not the way to start a topic.”

    OK npongco, why don’t you start a topic of your choice about criminal groups, I’m all ears and eyes.

  73. chi chi

    That’s what we need, ystakei, politically mature voters, if Filipinos want to change the country’s political scenario to the better. I read some posts dealing about the kind of voters we have in pinas, and I guess they’re absolutely right. The political culture of suhulan has been embedded deeply in the consciousness of our kalahi. And as shrewd as she is, this tianak understood perfectly how to turn this to her advantage. She was able to utilize this culture of suhulan to the hilt. And the rest is history unfinish yet!
    I’m not saying that lahat ay nasusuhulan, and dami pa diyan na may prinsipyo, kaya lang sa tindi ng hirap na dinaranas ng nakakarami ay madaling naisakatuparan ni Glue ang kanyang maitim na balak. Let’s see kung hanggang saan pa niya magagamit ang gimmick na ito sa May mid-term elections.

  74. npongco npongco

    Okay Chi, let’s start with the Pidal Gang. The gang has succeeded in convincing Atong Ang to pin down Lacson. Lacson is one of the opposition’s best bets in 2010. If the Kuratong Baleleng gang is resurrected and that casino employee’s disappearance is blamed on Lacson, then this is a big problem for Lacson in 2010. What this Pidal Gang will do is to apply the process of elimination. After eliminating Lacson, then the other strong candidates.

  75. Speaking of the snakehead gang operating in Japan, Chi, I have actually joined a police raid of a prostitution den operated by a Hawaiian but the house where they operate was owned by a Chinese resident in Japan. I was asked to come because I could speak Spanish and was going to interpret for the Columbian prostitutes apprehended there. Golly, ang daming nakuhang drugs pa ang mga pulis, and I was told that the Chinese, etc. gangsters were in fact operating in connivance with the Yakuza especially when it comes to prostitution.

    Otherwise, they operate on their own as when they engage in thefts and robberies, and recently in murders with robberies that can merit the capital punishment here.

    Because of the number of unsolved cases, at least, the Japanese government has been able to talk to the government in Beijing to cooperate especially when these criminals are able to escape and hide in China, and their victims are their own fellow countrymen.

    Mismong mga Chinese interpreters in the police and court, takot na takot sa kanila. Ang galing kasing manakot. At least, wala pa akong nahawakang kaso na may nanakot sa akin na pilipino. Kahit nga iyong member ng Yakuza na INC member na pumatay ng kapwa niya pilipino at nagnakaw, gusto pang kaibiganin ko siya!

  76. Chi,

    A very good representative from Bacolod in fact was a victim of this bribery thing that should be stopped in fact. At the last stage of his campaign to retain his position, his campaign managers all left him for Iggy because he hardly had enough to retain them. He was in fact banking on the OFW for his main role in the passing of the OAV Law, but help was slow in coming. Gusto ko mang tumulong but I would not like to violate the law on electioneering and the fact that I was Japanese by nationality. Natalo! Sayang talaga! Pumalit iyong Iggy na walang ginawa kundi mag-bodyguard doon sa kapatid at hipag niya!!! Ang mahal ng bayad pa sa kaniya!

    At least, in Manila, there are more matured voters that is why I thought there was really cheating there when the Manila votes were ignored in favor of the Cebu votes where we know the cheating was most rampant.

    It is for this reason that I think they should get rid of COMELEC. Sayang ang bayad sa mga commissioners diyan. Daya din pala ang trabaho lang nila.

  77. Mrivera Mrivera

    parang ang nangyayari sa malakanyang ay isang kasa ng mga ganid sa salapi, kapangyarihan at kamunduhang ang dumaranas ng pagdurusa at kahihiyan ay ang taong bayan!

  78. norpil norpil

    chi: about this tourism, is just a wishful thinking and you will be waiting in vain for i am too old for that.but i do’nt think it is a bad idea because this is the only industry i can think of where we have the resources and also ought to be nationalised.i heard that most of the areas in boracay are already owned by foreigners..i saw in the newspaper today that vietnam is building 155 ships for the next 3 years and that a small country like norway is helping.vietnam is a country as big in population as the pinas and they have been very long in peace time.though it is a communist country this does not stop the leaders to be progressive. in fact this is what we can see now changing thruout the world, communist countries beating the capitalists in their own game.

  79. chi chi

    npongco, what are you saying, that Atong pinned down lacson because the former was bribed by Pidal?
    L

  80. chi chi

    ooppps, not finish yet npongco,just accidentally touched the wrong button.
    Ang layo pa ng 2010, there’s no more time for Pidal to resurrect KB, etc. Before we know it, binubugbog na ng mga tao ang mga Pidal! In my view, they are at this very moment finish, KAPUT! Kailangan na lang ng tuldok!
    Process of elimination? The world is watching. At sabi ko nga wala na silang panahon pa para isakatuparan ang ganyang maitim na balak. Kay Lacson? Am not exactly a fan of Lacson, but I give him credit for being a good and brilliant military guy.
    I don’t any characters that belong to this Pidal gang, except Pidal himself.

  81. chi chi

    ystakei,
    Nadayo na rin pala diyan ang mga columbian prosti, ha.
    Ahhh, diyan ka naman bibilib sa mga pinoy sa labas ng pinas.
    Bukod sa masisipag, they give respect to a kapwa pinoy with authority. Kaya nga it is safe to conclude that majority of pinoys are good people, only the leaders are not. Iyong mga balitang gulo sa Saudi, etc., kadalasan e dala lang iyan ng survival issue and fake recruitment incident ng mga walanghiyang recruiters. To add, the officials that are assigned to protect them are the very first ones draining them, financially, physically and spiritually.

  82. chi chi

    “parang ang nangyayari sa malakanyang ay isang kasa ng mga ganid sa salapi, kapangyarihan at kamunduhang ang dumaranas ng pagdurusa at kahihiyan ay ang taong bayan!”

    Mrivera,

    CALIGULA na ngayon ang labas nila.

  83. chi chi

    “in fact this is what we can see now changing thruout the world, communist countries beating the capitalists in their own game.”

    You said it right, the reason why the US is so careful in dealing with the Chinese.
    In fact even in the Wall Street, chinese stocks are soaring high and more and more investors are putting their money on them.

    As to philippine tourism: Not only Boracay, you shoul see the white beaches of Romblon, magnificent! Every corner of the Philippines is beautiful. I thought I’ve already seen the most beautiful sunset just a few hundred of steps from my ancestral house, and in Manila Bay. I was wrong. We made a documentary about Sitangkai, Mindanao’s farthest town, malapit na sa Borneo. It was there I watched the crimson sun setting in the horizon, unbelievably beautiful! It was magic!
    Don’t you have a son/daughter to pursue your wish? hehehe, joking only!

  84. chi chi

    Norpil
    one of my post is for you, and for others interested :).
    Sorry, juan tamad’s daliri missed your name, hehe.

  85. Mrivera Mrivera

    chi, glad you mentioned sitangkai, a small island inhabited mostly by samals or badjaos, the most peace loving muslim people in the entire philippines. it really can be a great tourist destination. only if the national government considers developing its counrtysides for the benefit of the common people and not among those in the circle of the already “more than can afford society”.

  86. Mrivera Mrivera

    kumikilos ang dalawang taklesang manipulators ng mag-asawang dorobo, sina sabit singson at siraulo gunggongzalez. para bang tinitiyak nila na kapanipaniwala pa ang kanilang bawat pahayag. mga kunwari ay nagmamalasakit kay atong, pero kapag nakuha nila ang gusto, tapos ang maliligayang araw ng pobre. the moment atong signed his last testimony, either BANG (isang bala lang)o bubula ang bibig niya at maaari ding palalabasing inatake sa puso!

    sana, sa gitna ng mga sinasabi niyang kinatatakutang maaaring mangyari sa kanya ay maisip niyang gumawa ng ISANG bagay na magsisilbing magandang alaala ng kanyang pagkatao – ang pagsasabi ng tunay na TOTOO!

  87. vic vic

    chi, the arroyos or the pidal may fade in the political scene pretty soon or after mrs. pidal term by 20l0, but the ‘family’ doesn’t want an opposition to take over. the reason is very simple. they have committed a grievious sins, that once a turnover of government goes to an “unfriendly” faction they know what could happen to their accumulated ‘assets’ and of course the skeletons inside the closets. i think if they can eliminate their enemies while they are still in power as npongo is trying to make a point will be smooth sailing for them in the future whether they decide to stay in power or retire just like most of the former Gocernment officials, who are enjoying their ill-gotten wealth now with their families and quite proud of it…

  88. npongco npongco

    Chi, 2010 is still far and many things could happen. It takes only one day for an evil person like Gloria or Pidal to make an evil plan and implement it. It even only takes a minute for a criminal to commit a crime. Vic was correct is saying that the Pidal Family wants to see a friendly president and administration after 2010; so that they would not be prosecuted. If it’s Lacson or any die-hard politician, GMA will be in big trouble. What happened to Erap would happen to her and even worse. For this reason, we should also make sure that the candidates we choose especially the two highest office of the land are genuine and loyal opposition. Those who were once with GMA and now jumped to the opposition are doubtful. Their loyalty and sincerity are in question. Like this Villar, Drilon, Gordon, Roxas or even Magsaysay (quiet the first years and was with GMA). What guarantee do we have that they would go after Pidal Family’s tons of cases?

  89. chi chi

    Mrivera, i was awed when i saw sitangkai, and the natives were really so nice that in one of the islands iyong mga lalaking-lalaki na crew nang-hunting ng baboy-damo sa pagaakala na walang makakaalam maliban sa amin. E dumating ang noon ay Sitangkai Mayor and saw the baboy. Alam mo ba ang ginawa? Nagpadala ng mga kaldero para maluto ang kawawang baboy, never lecturing us about their belief in eating pork. Nilinis naman nitong mga barako ang mga kaldero at plato bago ibalik sa bahay ng Mayor.
    Ang parte na nagiltihan ang mga barako ay nang sa madaling araw, nakita nila na palihim na itinatapon ng Mayor ang lahat na nagamit sa pagluluto ng baboy. The next morning lahat sila ay nahihiyang humingi ng paumanhin sa Mayor. Ako, vegan…kaya labas sa kasalanan!
    I had not met any local officials like this Sitangkai Mayor. Super sa pag-tolerate and galang sa pangangailan ng mga kapatid kristiano.
    Hail to the Samals and Badjaos of the Philippines! Saludo ako talaga.

  90. chi chi

    npongco, agreed! And any minute, pwede ring bumagsak ang mga Pidals.

  91. chi chi

    Vic, I am with you and npongco about this Pidals wanting to eliminate their enemies before they fade away. My point is that it will not be so easy for them to eliminate lacson and other opposition leaders at this point. If they do that, mapapabilis ang kanilang pagbagsak, which they wouldn”t want to happen. And as I say, unlike before, the world leaders and concerned international organizations are now very much focused in the events that are now taking place in Pinas, a cause for them to worry and be careful not to be so drastic in their actions. Besides, Lacson is not stupid not to apply ultimate precautions,ditto with the known leaders of the opposition. Although, I admit that there’s a probability that they can carry out this scenario of elimination for their selfish ends any second. Lahat posible kay Pidal.
    As to a “friendly succession”, this also could happen but I’d like to think positive that the Pinoys will not let that happen this time. I still have faith that Pinoys care for the next generations to come.

  92. npongco npongco

    Bush and the Republicans’ defeat was mainly attributed to the Iraq War. GMA was among the early leaders who declared support for the US in the Iraq War. Now, would the Democrats controlled legislative bodies now move to kick out this Gloria from Malacanang? GMA must sink together with Bush!

  93. Mrivera: “… only if the national government considers developing its counrtysides for the benefit of the common people and not among those in the circle of the already “more than can afford society”.”

    Mrivera, I would not recommend it. Anything this corrupt Philippine government tries its hand in gets corrupted as well. I should know. I was a tourist guide before I became a legal interpreter, paralegal and company executive. I worked as a Japanese-speaking tourist guide for Baron Travel Corporation. Yes, the same company presided by SC Judge Art Panganiban. Small world, eh?

    As a tourist guide, I had gone to every nooks and corners of the Philippines. I saw El Nido in Palawan or the Sta. Cruz Island in Zamboanga or even the Basilan Island before they were developed and infested with these tulisans they call “Abu Sayaff,” etc.

    Chi is right, the Philippines is beautiful but it is too bad that Filipinos have not learned to appreciate what they have, and you don’t see them try to preserve them the way they should be preserved. All they know is to vandalize!

    I am told for example of the vandalism and destruction of the Ifugao rice terraces in Mt. Province, or the beaches in Panay threatened by the oil spills. Look at the media blackout and the attempt to to cover up the negligence of this government with bogus propaganda of economic progress and unseen prosperity under the reign of this bogus president, who has actually been successful in giving the impression that there is no reign of terror in the Philippines despite the rampant extra-judicial killings of journalists, human rightists, religious and community leaders, etc. even because of her size!

    I’m still in the travel business as a matter of fact, but I am not interested in promoting the Philippines because of the problem of security. The sad state of the economy in fact is reflected in the number of robbers and thieves who prey and pest on tourists.

    Tourists go travelling to enjoy, but not the kind of enjoyment that tourist agents in the Philippines recommend to tourists, especially male tourists from Japan, etc. I should know, for I used to quarrel with the glorified pimps (tourist guides) who would be interested only in taking our tourists to nightspots where they were forced to have sex for a fee with those young prosties they recruited from the provinces. For one who is used to the healthier walking tours in Europe, etc.for example, I find the sex tours in the Philippines really revolting.

    A friend of mine works for the DOT in Japan, and she has told me of the difficulty they are having in selling the Philippines to more decent and serious travellers in Japan. They have tried to promote study tours to the Philippines for example by banking on the Philippines as the second-largest English speaking country in the world, but look at what happened to a group of students recently that my friend told me the Customs officials there tried to extort! I could only gape at her.

  94. npongco npongco

    Don’t forget the toxic waste left by the GIs after the base closure. Many Filipino children and women died and are dying because of the toxic waste. Until this day, no apology or compensation from Uncle Sam.

  95. I just wrote about how the Filipinos prey on the hapless tourists, and here’s the news that Japan-based US serviceman’s daughter, a mestisa actually, had been kidnapped and killed in the Philippines. The 19-year-old daughter was living in fact with the mother but had a quarrel with the mother and lived with a friend when she was abducted. Kawawa naman! It surely will find its way to a newspaper here, and will be another blot to the promotion of Philippine tourism overseas.

  96. Chi, this is the first time i heard of sitangkai (“We made a documentary about Sitangkai, Mindanao’s farthest town, malapit na sa Borneo. It was there I watched the crimson sun setting in the horizon, unbelievably beautiful! It was magic!”).

    I’ll add it to my list of places in the philippines to visit.

  97. chi chi

    Yes Ellen, one has to take a ferry or bangka from Bongao town to Sitangkai. Remember Bongao? I read somewhere that when Garci was nowhere to be found, it was in Bongao, according to that report that he was once seen. I was laughing nga, dahil how can they find this Garci when Bongao was far from civilization. Apparently, whoever hid him knew better.

  98. Mrivera Mrivera

    ellen,

    ellen, kung merong isang lugar sa pilipinas na pinakamagandang puntahan kung magkakaroon lamang ng katahimikan, i strongly recommend sulu province dahil ang mga isla nito ay nakapagdudulot ng ginhawa sa napapagal na isipan at katawan ng sinumang naghahanap ng katiwasayan. ang luntiang kagubatan, malinis na dalampasigan, bughaw-berdeng tubig ng karagatan, mga sariwang prutas at lamang dagat gayundin ang lantay na pakikipagkapwa tao ng mga taosug at animo’y mailap (mahiyain)subalit mababait na mga badjao o samal.

    chi, imposibleng sa bonggao, tawi tawi nagtago si garci. hindi tinatanggap doon ang asal-hayop na katulad niya na sa tingin ko ay hindi marunong makipagkapwa tao.

  99. Mrivera:

    Posible pa rin kasi nakatalukbong ng scarf na gaya ni Arafat si Garci nang magtago doon! Akala siguro nila si Arafat siya lalo na kung nakabigote siya. Switik nga kasi!

  100. chi chi

    Mrivera, ganun ba ‘yon. baka iniligaw rin ng mga nagtatago kay Garci ang mga naghahanap. Oy, tama ka, nakatalukbong nga raw ang Garci, ayon sa report. May picture pa nga sa diaryo na ala-Arafat. Sinalbahe pa ang ating mga kapatid na mababait na muslim. Hmmmpppp, makagat sana ng kobra itong Garci na ito, saan man siya naruruon.

  101. nelbar nelbar

    Los Angeles Times
     
     

    Perle says he should not have backed Iraq war

    By Peter Spiegel, Times Staff Writer

    November 4, 2006
     

    WASHINGTON — Richard N. Perle, the former Pentagon advisor regarded as the intellectual godfather of the Iraq war, now believes he should not have backed the U.S.-led invasion, and he holds President Bush responsible for failing to make timely decisions to stem the rising violence, according to excerpts from a magazine interview.

    Perle — a leading neoconservative who chaired the Pentagon’s defense advisory board for the first three years of the Bush administration — is quoted in January’s Vanity Fair as saying the U.S. might have been able to strip Saddam Hussein of his ability to build unconventional weapons “by means other than a direct military intervention.”

    “I think if I had been Delphic, and had seen where we are today, and people had said ‘Should we go into Iraq?’ I think now I probably would have said, ‘No, let’s consider other strategies for dealing with the thing that concerns us most, which is Saddam supplying weapons of mass destruction to terrorists,’ ” Perle said, according to interview excerpts released Friday by the magazine.

    Perle’s about-face is the latest in a series of war recriminations by neoconservatives, many of whom blame Iraq’s spiraling violence on the administration’s management of the postwar stabilization effort.

    Others interviewed for the article included former Bush speechwriter David Frum and former Reagan administration official Kenneth L. Adelman.

    Perle’s prominent advocacy of invasion after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks — and his close relationship with the war’s top architects, including Paul D. Wolfowitz, then the deputy Defense secretary, and Douglas J. Feith, the former Pentagon policy chief — makes his reversal particularly noteworthy.

    Perle told Vanity Fair he did not anticipate the “depravity” currently underway in Iraq, saying, “The levels of brutality we’ve seen are truly horrifying.”

    He said “huge mistakes” had been made in the management of the war, and he blamed disloyalty among top Bush administration officials for a failure to get the policy correct.

    “The decisions did not get made that should have been,” he said.

    He continued: “At the end of the day, you have to hold the president responsible….

    “I don’t think he realized the extent of the opposition within his own administration, and the disloyalty.”

    Although the excerpts do not show who Perle blames for disloyalty or mismanagement, he appears to lay the blame at the feet of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and the military leaders who put together the war plan.

    “Huge mistakes were made, and I want to be very clear on this: They were not made by neoconservatives, who had almost no voice in what happened, and certainly almost no voice in what happened after the downfall of the regime in Baghdad,” he said.

    “I’m getting damn tired of being described as an architect of the war. I was in favor of bringing down Saddam. Nobody said, ‘Go design the campaign to do that.’ I had no responsibility for that.”

    The excerpts include quotes from other neoconservatives who have turned against the war, including Adelman, a longtime friend of Rumsfeld who has received classified Pentagon briefings on the war as recently as March, according to a recent book by journalist Bob Woodward.

    Vanity Fair quotes Adelman as saying that though he still believes the reasons for going to war were right, the invasion should not have occurred because the goals were unachievable. He called Bush’s national security advisors “among the most incompetent teams” in the post-World War II era, adding he was particularly let down by Rumsfeld: “I’m very, very fond of him, but I’m crushed by his performance.”
     
     

  102. Mrivera Mrivera

    as usual, ang mga nagsisisi ay laging nasa huli. marami pang dahilan at palusot!

  103. Mrivera:

    More than 250,000 Iraqis ang pinapatay ni Bush at Rumsfeld. I remember how this Rumsfeld would even arrogantly claim that even those young Iraqis arrested and incarcerated at Abu Ghraib deserved the abuses they were subjected to. Now, he has to pay for what he did.

    Susunod din si Blair, Koizumi and you bet, si Pandak, who was the first one to endorse the attack on Iraq. At least, over here, there were concerned lawyers and civilians who endorsed the convening of the International Criminal Tribunal for Iraq. Arroyo was found guilty there, and the findings, etc. were submitted to the ICJ and are now being carefully reviewed for proper prosecution eventually. It is for that reason why a Philippine ex-judge, Romy Capulong, was invited to be the Chief Prosecutor there.

    Judge Capulong, the real descendant of Lakan Dula, is in fact another human rightist lawyer in the list of critics of this bogus government for termination.

  104. Mrivera Mrivera

    ystakei, the moment the glue stood up and unsolicitedly pledged the sending of our soldiers in iraq should bush ordered invasion, i maybe one of those first to denounce her knowing it is not a unilateral decision even from a sitting head of the state to send troops without any consultation with the congress.

    since the very start, i knew that the iraq war would fail since there is not much support from allied nations.

  105. Mrivera,

    Not only it failed because of lack of total support from allies but from the onset, it was also because the strategy for the invasion of Iraq was already seriously flawed.

    Let’s not even talk of the moral and legal grounds of that invasion which was why many nations didn’t back the frigging invasion, let’s just talk of the strategy for the invasion proper, the tactics of operations…

    General Colin Powell already said that to make a quick invasion work, the US needed to deploy HALF A MILLION officers and men with proper nulber of medical personnel from the VERY START of a carpet invasion!

    And today – I mean now, even if the US DID decide to FINISH OFF THE WAR – short of NUKING BAGHDAD, they would need to deploy 260,000 troops with corresponding war materiel to add to the 140,000 troops and war personnel they already have in Iraq at the moment for the sake of finishing off the war and that is ON IRAQ ONLY (not including the other areas in the middle east) which means the US will need close to 100,000,000 fresh troops in the reserve (FOR IRAQ ONLY!), prepared to do the rotation basis in case the war dragged longer than 6 months…and with that the US will have to set close to ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS instantly to finance such a war!

    They will have spent 282 billion dollars (YEAH, read and say that amount slowly to FEEL IT!) by the end of the year on this stupid, senseless, war in addition to having turned many Iraqi moderates into poential terrorists and thanks to Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld, the Iraqis have become experts in ASSYMETRIC WARFARE!

    Talk of dumb and dumber! Bush and his clique WERE OUT OF THEIR DEPTH!

    Good riddance Rumsfeld! Rumsfailed bitched about Powell and cut him off when Powell’s military invasion option was really the more strategically sound.

    Stupid, idiotic war bums like Bush/Carlyle Group-Cheney/Halliburton-Rumsfeld who think they could overlook the realities, i.e., logistics, war materiel and operations required to make an invasion work and ignore their military top brass.

    Dumb and dumber these frigging warmongers were and now they don’t know what to do!

  106. You bet, Mrivera. The guilty should be turned over to the authorities and be made to die for their crimes against humanity ala-Trial at Nuremberg or the trial in Tokyo of war criminals.

    I have met a number of these victims of US-British atrocities in Afghanistan and Iraq, even children who had been hit by bombs dropped on order of Bush and Blair. Koizumi has tried to play safe by not committing the Japanese troops to do mano a mano fighting with the Iraqis, but he tricked people here to allow him to finance Bush’s war. He is also found guilty by the ICTI.

    Dudugo ang puso mo doon sa mga batang nawalan ng mga kamay, paa, paningin, magulang, kapatid, kamag-anak at pamilya. Grabe talaga! Nakasama na ako sa refugee camp sa Islamabad, Pakistan at doon sa Iran. Kawawa iyong mga batang nawalan ng mga kamay, braso at paa dahil sa bomba at landmines.

    Isang talagang kumulo ang dugo ko ay doon sa victims ng rape sa Iraq. Nakakarimarim kasi itong mga perverts na kano, bini-video pa ang ginagawa nila tapos ibinebenta sa Tate. I was able to get a copy of the records of those atrocities with video clips. Nakakasuka talaga. Kaya matindi din ang galit ko doon sa mga nag-rape kay Nicole kahit na pa sabihin nilang kasalanan niya! Talagang mga hayok ang ungas. Buti na lang dito mahigpit silang pinagsasabihan na hindi sila uubrang lumabag sa batas ng Hapon. Meron ngang ipinamumudmod sa mga kano dito na video ng dapat nilang gawin para makaiwas sa gulo at makulong sa Japan.

    Sa Pilipinas, ‘langhiya talaga. Biktima pa ang ipapakulong kasi pilipino siya! ‘Kakangitngit!

  107. nelbar nelbar

    salamat na marami Mrivera, ystakei at anna sa inyong pananaw.

    Isa sa mga hindi dapat natin kalimutan ay itong “ancient artifacts ng mesopotamia” na isa rin biktima ng gyera sa Iraq. Sigurado ako na karamihan nito ay nasa pangangalaga na ng Amerika at Ingatera.

    Sa ngalan ng demokrasya ay mga magnanakaw pala ang US at UK ng mga nabanggit na pag-aari ng sibilisasyon ng mga Iraqis.

    Sa pangyayaring ito ay madali nang manipulahin ng Western powers ang kasaysayan ng Mesopatmia.
     
    Ang akala siguro ng Amerika ay magiging kapareha ng 2003 Invasion of Iraq ang ‘1899-1901 benevolent assimilation policy’ dito sa Pilipinas.

    Sa palagay ko ang isa sa mga stategic objective ngayon ng US/UK ay magtayo ng mga “research center” sa loob at labas mismo ng Baghdad.

    Wala itong pinagkaiba sa “Fort Santiago sa Maynilad” at “Fort San Pedro sa Sugbu” na dapat at ginigiba(for development) na rin para maging isang eskwelahan hindi upang magsilbing alaala ng kapaitan ng ating mga ninuno sa kamay ng mga malulupit ng mananakop!

     

  108. nelbar nelbar

    ystakei,

    Nabanggit mo ang atrocities. Noong 90’s, sariwa pa sa isipan natin ang Yugoslavian civil war na kung saan ay naging talamak ang pang-aabuso sa magkakatunggaling panig i.e., Serbs, Croats, Bosnian/Croats, Bosniak, Albanian na pikit mata namang hinayaan ng western powers, saudi arabia, iran at iba pang islamic countries.
    Ang isa sa mga hindi ko makalimutan ay itong Srebenica(silver) massacre na kung saan at walang nagawa ang UN Dutch forces.

    Sa ngayon ay nagbabasa ako ng libro ng “NATO in Balkans:Voices of Opposition(Ramsey clark)” , kaya’t naliliwanagan na rin ako.

    Noon ay tumatambay pa ako sa forums ng Central Europe Online para lang makipagpalitan ng opinyon at kuro-kuro panig sa NATO at US. Pero sa ngayon ay iba na ang pananaw ko matapos ang pakikialam ng Amerika sa middle east at arab world.

     

  109. nelbar nelbar

    Mrivera, ystakei & anna:
     

    Share ko na rin sa inyo ang posting/comments ko sa “Has Iraq become the new Vietnam?” mula sa Telegraph.co.uk

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=BLOGDETAIL&grid=P30&blog=yourview&xml=/news/2006/10/19/ublview19b.xml

     
    taka nga ako bakit hindi nag-appear ang comments ko:
     

     

    …”ON 2ND QUARTER OF 2003, PEOPLE IN U.S. CONGRESS, STATE DEPARTMENT, PENTAGON AND THE MAINSTREAM AMERICAN MEDIA THOUGHT THAT BAGHDAD VIA BASRA IS LIKE PHILIPPINE ISLAND VIA MANILA BAY OF 1898.
     

    WE’RE TALKING OF AMERICAN G.I.’s WORSHIPPING THE LIKE’s GEORGE DEWEY AND GEN.DOUGLAS MACARTHUR.
    THEY EVEN BOASTED THAT LIBERATING SOLDIER THAT WOULD TOPPLE SADDAM WILL WARMLY GREET IN THE STREETS OF BAGHDAD.THERE WAS EVEN SPECULATION FROM US SOLONS THAT PEOPLE FROM BAGHDAD WILL BE WAVING AND SHAKING HANDS WITH THEM ONCE THEY MARCH INSIDE BAGHDAD.
     

    MEDIA PAINTED IN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT A “LOW CASUALTY” FOR TOPPLING SADDAM IS A VICTORY FOR AMERICAN INTEREST AND WOULD BE A FOUNDATION OF NEW DEMOCRACY IN MESOPOTAMIA.
     

    IN FAIRNESS, WHAT THE AMERICAN DID ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST WAS THE DEMOCRATISATION IN LEBANON WHICH IN TURN LED TO THE 34-DAYS WAR OF US-BRITISH-ZIONIST WAR AGAINST HEZBOLLAH FREEDOM FIGHTERS.
     

    UNFORTUNATELY, THE TIDE RESULTED IN THE BALKANIZATION OF IRAQ!!!
     

    GONE ARE THE DAYS OF GEORGE ARMSTRONG CUSTER PHILOSOPHY.”

     
     

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    ini-edit din pala ang mga comments dyan sa telegraph.co.uk.

    ipagtanggol ang lahing malaya!

     

  110. Nelbar,

    Re Telegraph blog entry

    I agree with the blogger’s take. That’s why I said Bush/Carlyle group-Cheney/hHalliburton-Rumsfeld were out of their depth. Blair, the Scotsman who believed got himself hoodwinked by the trio in spite of his better education is equally guilty.

    That’s why General Sir Richard Dannatt, Chief of the British Army blasted Blair’s and his Labour Government’s hollow Iraq strategy to pieces.

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