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What has Gloria Arroyo done to this country?
Update: 25 more killed- biggest casualty in a day
By Joel Guinto
Inquirer
Three days of fighting between government forces and al Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf militants in the southern island province of Sulu has left 57 combatants killed and 42 others wounded, a military spokesman said Friday.
A nine-year-old boy was killed in one of four engagements. He was caught in the crossfire when Abu Sayyaf members, assisted by rogue Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) rebels, ambushed Army troopers in Maimbung town on Thursday morning, said Lieutenant Colonel Bartolome Bacarro.
A total of 26 soldiers and 31 Abu Sayyaf members were killed, while 17 soldiers and 25 Abu Sayyaf bandits were hurt in the four incidents, Bacarro told reporters in Camp Aguinaldo.
The remains of only one Abu Sayyaf member was recovered, but “validated intelligence reports” point to more casualties, Bacarro said, adding troops were verifying reports that two sub-commanders were among the fatalities.
There were no reports of new clashes Friday.
Bacarro said two Army battalions would be sent to reinforce troops in Sulu, bringing to roughly 4,000 the number of forces running after over 200 extremists, who are allegedly hiding two Jemaah Islamiyah bomb experts who allegedly masterminded the 2002 Bali bombings, Umar Patek, and Dulmatin.
On Thursday, 25 soldiers from the 33rd Infantry Battalion were killed, 10 in the Thursday morning ambush, and 15 others in an armed engagement also in Maimbung on Thursday afternoon.
It was the biggest single day casualty for the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) in recent years, Bacarro said.
“As to the efforts against the ASG [Abu Sayyaf group], this will not slacken. We will continue looking for them, hunting them down,” Bacarro said.
Bacarro said the reinforcements would bring to 4,000 the strength of forces running after over 200 Abu Sayyaf bandits in Sulu.
The 33rd IB, which figured in the two engagements on Thursday, would be recalled and replaced by another Army battalion.
Bacarro belied observations that the heavy military casualties and the Thursday morning ambush in Maimbung indicated the Abu Sayyaf is on the offensive.
“Three of the offensives are government-initiated. We are the ones on the offensive,” he said.
Army troops scoured the towns of Maimbung, Parang, and Indanan after receiving intelligence reports that Abu Sayyaf commanders Radullan Sahiron, Albader Parad, Doc Abu, and Jul Aspi were hiding in the area, Bacarro said.
The first encounter was reported in Indanan town last Tuesday when two Marines were wounded after a Marine platoon encountered some 50 Abu Sayyaf fighters, the spokesman said.
On Wednesday, a soldier from the Army’s 33rd Infantry Battalion was killed while five others were hurt in an encounter with some 40 fighters in Parang town.
Then came the Thursday morning ambush in Maimbung, in which nine soldiers were killed on the spot and two wounded. One of the wounded troopers died later at the hospital, he said.
Later that day, troops from the 33rd IB battled a 120-strong band composed of Abu Sayyaf fighters, rogue MNLF members and lawless elements that left 15 soldiers killed and nine wounded, he said.
Asked about the MNLF presence in the encounter sites, Bacarro said: “These are rogue MNLF groups. We can say that even before, there are reports of collusion [between the Abu Sayyaf and rogue MNLF elements].”
The MNLF has confirmed that its men were involved in the clashes, but said it was an offshoot of an earlier military attack that killed a high-ranking leader and three others.
He also refused to link the Sulu pursuit to the hunt for the killers of 14 Marines in the neighboring island province of Basilan.
“It’s too early to say…We are taking these as two different theaters,” Bacarro said.
The suspects in the killings of the 14 Marines, 10 of whom were beheaded, include Abu Sayyaf bandits and separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) rebels
Bacarro belied observations that the heavy military casualties and the Thursday morning ambush in Maimbung indicated the Abu Sayyaf is on the offensive.
“Three of the offensives are government-initiated. We are the ones on the offensive,” he said.
reply : if the government forces according to Bacarro is on the offensive, why is it that they got almost the same number of casualties with that of the rebels? according to reports, there were 26 casualties on the government side and 31 on the rebels, and at least 10 soldiers were wounded. considering the ratio of troops between the government and abussayaf, 26 casualties in just a single day of engagement is amazing !
Ak-47,
Since Assperon assumed as csafp, the results of combat operation are really amazing and disastrous to our soldiers.
By the way, the island commander of Jolo is Gen Rafael. He was the former camp commander of Fort bonifacio when Lt San Juan et al escaped from detention. He was relieved by Assperon then but later promoted to Major General. That’s Assperon’s worthy generals. Truly amazing!
Are we seeing another Afghanistan in the making? The most alarming part of this battle is not between the government troops and rebels; but the unseen hand or hands. Yes, foreign elements are involved.
Truly amazing! Asspweron at his best! If he does not incarcerate his top officials, he gets his men killed!
I agree that I can see foreign hands here. The US forces are supposed to be on hand and the Malaysian government is there as well. What else can happen? Who else is behind this outbreak?
Maybe Gokusen can tell us the different factions in this war zone!
Gokusen is a local hand not foreign hand so I doubt if he knows anything. Get it?
Parasabayan: At first I was wondering why you mentioned Malaysian gov’t..now I get it..hindi ba malapit ang Malaysia sa Mindanao?..and for a time there was this question of the claim on Sabah? Financial investment or an independent Mindanao to be part of Malaysia? Mabilis ang kumpit..at mahusay magsisid ang mga tao sa Mindanao..nakipaglaro ata si pang gulo sa mga ito..for herself but certainly not for the country..That’s what it seems to me..Malaking kuarta..malaking kahon na puno ng kuarta..G.. not as in gloria but Greed.
It will be amazing for us if these highly idiots commanders(COLS. & above show)that be on the front line leading and facing the enemies with their capaign medals,ribbons and commendations kuno,take a look at them when they are in Gala attire it seems they engages in so many battles.We spent so many hundreds of thousand,to send them abroad and locally to gained and acquired some knowledges of tactics and stragetic fighting guerrilla warfare in rural and urban engagements.Thsee ridicules the entire outfit of AFP,25 in a single day,with the numbers of opponents are 1:20,20 for AFP,1 for abus,AFP got some edges on weapons,airsupport,you name it they got it,but the trouble they can get accounted for it,while your opponents are relying only rag-tag armies,probably their brains are more advance in art of fighting and ability to succumb everyone to they final resting place.The lives of our gallantry men depend on their unit commanders wether it is batallions or company from direction order,but if incompentencies been applied on those orders,gallantry will become history only w/o success.
It will be amazing for us if these highly idiots commanders(COLS. & above show)that be on the front line leading and facing the enemies with their capaign medals,ribbons and commendations kuno,take a look at them when they are in Gala attire it seems they engages in so many battles.We spent so many hundreds of thousand,to send them abroad and locally to gained and acquired some knowledges of tactics and stragetic fighting guerrilla warfare in rural and urban engagements.Thsee ridicules the entire outfit of AFP,25 in a single day,with the numbers of opponents are 1:20,20 for AFP,1 for abus,AFP got some edges on weapons,airsupport,you name it they got it,but the trouble they can get accounted for it,while your opponents are relying only rag-tag armies,probably their brains are more advance in art of fighting and ability to succumb everyone to they final resting place.The lives of our gallantry men depend on their unit commanders wether it is batallions or company from direction order,but if incompentencies been applied on those orders,gallantry will become history only w/o success.
I doubt they even got the enemy casualty numbers right. I heard on radio yesterday morning it was 25 dead AFP against 27 on the Abu-MNLF side but our soldiers can only account for five enemy bodies.
Dagdag-bawas pati bilang ng napatay para hindi naman nakakahiya?
Here we have a superior numerical troops hunting more or less 300 “terrorists” and they seem to be on the defensive, getting ambushed instead. Is this the lack of training or lack of leadership or lack of motivation? Just like the Commander bragging she can do this and that, still has to prove herself on anyone of them. For the sake of the Marines and the fighting soldiers, may this one would not be the one of her monumental failures..
A 9 year- old boy was killed in a crossfire again! &*^^%%$#
And the **&&^tanging-ina ng bayan is “concerned” about this war! How many more children will be caught in a crossfire, and how many more soldiers and civilians will die in Gloria’s name?!
The fact is that Gloria doesn’t know what to do and cannot command her cheat-of staff but too scared to let go of her stolen throne for she might end up in prison or decapitated, too, by her own trusted personnel.
Ano ang ginagawa ng mga pulitiko, abala sa kotongan sa lower house at bangayan sa senado? Tuwang-tuwa si Gloria sa inyo!
Iyan ang “isang bala lang kayo” ni Gloria. Unti-unting nauubos ang mga marines habang nagbubuhay milyunaryo ang mga henerales at pa-cute si Gloria.
Pakawalan ninyo sina Col. Querubin et al. Sila lang ang may kakayanang lumaban sa mga bandidong ‘yan.
Ang hirap kay Gloria at Asspweron ay saksakan ng arogante at halang ang kaluluwa kaya kesa sa gumawa ng nararapat ay ipauubos na lang nila ang mga marines at sundalo sa gera.
Dapat ang mga marines ay mag sit-in strike. Ano ang magagawa ng kanilang superiors kung nakaupo lang sila. Ang dami nilang iku-court martial pero sigurado na iyon ay makapagpatinag sa mga hangal at mapu-protektahan nila ang kanilang mga buhay.
Life is too precious to lose in a battle like this in the name of fake Gloria and supot Asspweron. Walang katuturan na pagkamatay!
Meron kayang training sa intelligence ang intelligence officers ng AFP na involved dito?! Palaging bokya e!
Baka natu-tulog sa pansitan. Palaging failure of intelligence.
Isa pa ang focus ng ISAFP ay mga kalaban sa politika ni Ginang Arroyo. Balik tayo uli sa Hello Garci political scam.
The Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP)’s numerical advantage is rendered useless against the Islamic militants due to hit and run tactics and their familiarity of local terrains. Mao Tse-tung defeated numerical superior Kuomintang Army by luring them deeper into favorable terrain and striking them with lethal blow. The Afghan mujahedin rebels annihilated much superior Soviet occupation army with the same Mao’s guerilla warfare tactics. The AFP foot soldiers are best trained in guerilla warfare. They had been fighting Huks insurgency since 1950’s, the 1970’s resurrected CPP-NPA guerilla war and Moro rebellion. Unfortunately, military top brass’ incompetence, corruption, low moral and politics are key factors for the unnecessary lost of lives in the battlefield. What do we expect from Hello Garci Commander-In-Chief and her Generals? Pati casualties may dagdag-bawas pa. Ano ba iyan!
What I can see happening is that Asspweron’s AFP is sugod lang ng sugod directionless just to show for propaganda purposes that his kasuputan is doing something.
And Gloria? The pint-sized queen of termites “concerned” is completely useless because of Hello Garci, I totally agree Ka Diego, balik tayo sa legacy ni Gloria. She’s inutile!
My brother-in-law sent me a song sung by Asin titled “Ang Bayan kong Sinilangan” and it tells of the fighting between
“brothers” in Mindanao. He says it was written during the Marcos era but it still rings true today and much worse.
The idiotic criminal squatting at the palace by the murky river has to go. Bakit ayaw pang humirit ang mga pilipino. Pambihira naman! But when we think of the many lives already wasted to make the Philippines a country Filipinos can be proud of, we realize that it has been all a waste, and we begin to feel like most of the people left there, “Just get out of the Philippines as fast as one can!” Nakakalungkot!
Kawawang bansa!
Chi,
Sabi mo sugod lang ng sugod? Sinabi ko na ngang bobo e! Puro yabang lang wala namang ibubuga. Sa amin nga, may sinabi lang hindi nagustuhan ng mga victims ng atomic bomb sa Hiroshima at Nagasaki, nasibak na ang Minister of Justice namin e. Sa Pilipinas, napugutan ng ulo 10 sundalo, binigyan pa ng korona iyong inutil at pinugayan pang maging datu.
Hindi kaya sinadya nga para mabigyan si Esperon ng titulo. Para iyang katulad noong tribal tradition ng mga Ilongot na namumugot ng ulo na mas madaming ulong mapupugot ng isang warrior, mas malaking gawin siyang pinuno ng tribo. Di bale kung siya ang makikipagpugutan ng ulo, e hindi, ipapain niya tapos ipapapugot niya. Ang sagwa! Trabaho ng traydor na manduduro pa! Pwe!
Nakakalungkot, 25 families sa isang araw lang ang nawalan ng tatay, anak, kapatid!
If pinoys will not move agressively, the tradpols will do nothing but mangotong and mag-away, and the soldiers will just follow Asspweron’s order even when they know that they are just being used for business and propaganda, Mindanao will soon be a wasteland, if not yet!
Yuko,
Imagine, ang mga civilians duon sa malapit sa gera are living in fear 24/7! Tapos itong si reyna engkantada ay “concerned” lang ang sinasabi! Paktaylo na ang mga tao, pa-cute pa ang bruha!
Chi;–The conflict in Mindanao has complex of origin that go back many years ago. These MILF and the Abu were out there fighting in their jungles before Marcos.
But our interest here is not in the conflict dead in the soldiers or the Abu’s, but in the innocents and helpless who were slaughtered during, between, or after these wars. This because they happened to live on one side or the other, or were victims of the repression and terror of those Jihadist or governments that occupied their land. Of those killed by warlords little need be said. Although some warlords were considerate of their subjects, ruling benevolently, generally they were tyrants brooking little opposition. Repression was often massive and massacres were not infrequent; opposition usually meant death.
Gloria and Esperon were no different than the warlords. They murdered opponents, assassinated critics, and employed terror as a device of rule. Moreover, was considered scum, lower than vermin. Their foot soldiers were mistreated, often fed poorly and ill paid; and if wounded or sick they were left to fend for themselves, often to die slow and miserable deaths. In turn, soldiers often treated civilians no better. Looting, rape, arbitrary murder, was a risk helpless civilians faced from passing soldiers or those occupying or reoccupying their villages and towns. But killing by Esperon’s military was also strategic and ideological. They especially sought out communists or communist sympathizers for execution. They went so far as to kill anyone they felt had cooperated with the communists or had been tainted by them. While such killing may have numbered a few from village to village, when these victims are added up over all the villages, people were all dress in black. Maybe, if Jonas is still alive and able to escape, his revelation collaborated the truth
International media is also talking about the Mindanao conflict. It’s all over the news around the world. I saw it on CNN today. It made mention of US troops helping the Filipino soldiers.
Agree, agree, Cocoy. And we are not forgetting that during this current dispensation that the casualty in the Mindanao conflict is the biggest “and still counting” because of bobo intelligence, while civilians have no rest from fear in sight.
Gera talaga!
goji,
I was just thinking of the US troops training pinoy soldiers. What could possibly happened na bokya sila parati?! Puro pa porma lang ba ang itinuturo sa kanila?!
I’m not a military-minded person and don’t know the rules of the game, pero ang tagal na meron daw training unless lahat ng trained soldiers ay nagbabantay sa pwet ni Gloria!
Chi, training can be forever. The foreign troops can always say they are there to support and extend logical assistance. Yet, the RP soldiers are equipped with night vision and sophisticated weapons. Who are providing these? My thinking is just the RP soldiers are in front battling it out while the foreigners are the ones in command. Let’s just pray that this recent conflict won’t escalate into a major battle that we have witnessed in other countries. Or is Gloria Arroyo now implementing her Plan C to stay in power beyond 2010? With less than three years before she steps down, that’s one option she can pick.
Ano ba ang Plan C ni Gloria? Martial law o charter change?
Diego, Charter Change is Plan B and Emergency Rule is Plan C.
If this conflict in Mindanao gets worse and the US are heavily involved, what would stop Arroyo from declaring emergency rule using terrorism as the reason. Please take note that the West has long been crying about the Al Queda link of these Muslim rebels.
Noong nag update ako ng tungkol sa basilan at sulu dito sa ellenville nabasa yung 9 na namatay na sundalo, at sinabi ko pa na nasira ang tangke ng mga sundalo…bakit di aminin ng gobyerno na dahil di nila controlado ang situation kaya lalong nagkakagulo sa amin..bakit di nila ilagay sa balita na mas maraming civilian ang napupugutan at nakukuha sa kung saan-saan na lugar…
habang binobomba ang basilan, ay maluwag na nakakagawa ng pag-retaliate ang mga abu sa sulu na kung saan nandun ang malalaking ulo ng abu at walang pusong nagsasabog ng lagim na halos civilian ang nagdudusa…
bakit kinakailangan na sa bawat gulo ng abu ay ididikit ang pangalan ng mnlf at abu..kelan pa ba kayo magigising ang abu kalaban yan ng matinong adhikain ng mnlf at di kinokondena ang mga yan bakit di nyo sabihin na lang na abu, bakit laging “at” dinadagdagan niyo lang na bumangon ang lalong galit ng mga tao sa amin..
intelligence reports.. noon nyo pa alam ang mga campo ng mga yan..libre ngang nakakaikot ng indanan at gang jolo..pero ano sabi ng isang mbrigade noon di nyo pedeng galawin bakit?
eh di nga kayo makadikit sa grupo ni radulan dahil takot kayo na pagpumasok kayo sa kampo ni radulan at alam na alam nyo yun walang nabubuhay na militar at lahat namamatay? walang sundalong gustong pumasok sa kampo niya dahil naglalakad palang kayo paakyat ng bundok alam na ng mga kalaban dahil sa ingay ng mga dala nyong radyo…
wala na ba kayong gagawin kundi pagtakpan ang mga sarili nyong interest..asan ang mga evacuation centers ? andun sa karungdong…andun sa lower patibulan…kaya bang ilagay dun ang libu-libong tao na naiipit lagi sa engkwentro…at ang mga kabataan ay nahihinto sa pag-aaral dahil sa walang humpay na gulo…
bakit di nyo aminin sa kada ambush ng mga kalaban ng gobyerno halos walang buhay ang natitira at ultimo sasakyan sinusunog nila?
na sa bawat isang patay sa kalaban ang katapat na patay nito sa militar ay mahigit sampu..bakit di nyo sabihin ang totoo? wala na bang kinabukasan ang mga kabataan namin? na itinatanim niyo sa mga kabataan sa bukid ang magkaroon ng paglaban sa gobyerno..na mas katakutan ang militar na ang tingin ng mga kababaihan sa militar berdugo? yan ba ang gusto niyong maging pananaw ng mga susunod na generation?
Sabihin niyo ang totoo na ang mga sundalong pinadadala nyo dun ay walang kalaban-laban sa ambush ng kalaban…kelan nyo pa tatapusin kapag lahat na ng tao sa amin ay namumundok na?
Napapansin ko ang Al Qaeda-link Abu Sayyaf Group ang palaging pinupunterya ng rehimeng Arroyo kahit ina-amin ng MILF ang mga ambush sa Tipo-Tipo at Sulu. Bakit? Dahil ang Abu Sayyaf ay nasa blacklist ng mga terorista ng US State Department. Wala pa sa listahan ang MILF.
A total of 26 soldiers and 31 Abu Sayyaf members were killed, while 17 soldiers and 25 Abu Sayyaf bandits were hurt in the four incidents, Bacarro told reporters in Camp Aguinaldo.
The remains of only one Abu Sayyaf member was recovered, but “validated intelligence reports” point to more casualties, Bacarro said, adding troops were verifying reports that two sub-commanders were among the fatalities.
— sino magbibilang ng patay ung namatay? Pano nyo nalaman ang bilang ng namatay na kalaban? Eh bago nga makarating nag reinforcement matagal, kahit sa tubig pa dumaan, alam nyo na may naka-abang na kalaban na mang-aambush sa mag-re-reinforce? yung nakuha nilang patay na abu , naiwan na yun dun at di na nabalikan ng mga kasamahan..dahil ang mga kasamahan nun puro buhay..200 lang ang abu na naka-engkwentro? eh kahit nga 15 abu lang ang maka-engkwentro ng militar mas maraming namamatay, eh yung 15 abu na yun ang hawak na gamit mas malalakas pa sa hawak ng militar…at puro pasugod habang ang mga sundalo naghahanap ng pagtataguan. sinong reporter ang mangangahas pumunta dun..pag nakita sila ng abu pugutan sila ng ulo…kung civilian nga at kapwa muslim walang sinisino ang mga yun eh di lalo na ang reporter dahil nga sa di tamang report ang mga ibinabalita at kumukuha lang sa sa mga sinasabi ng mga spokesperson ng afp…
goji;—The war in Mindanao is not a strong reason to justify the declaration of Martial Law. She will be having difficulties to convince the International leaders to support her because there is no nationwide civil unrest. Every nation and not only in the Philippines has a problem of terrorism. Martial law is only declare under the doctrine of necessity when a calamity occurs such as war, riots and rebellion that cannot be dealt with in a normal, peaceful manner. Arroyo could not declare Martial law for her own political survival
at kami alam namin na dun sa lugar ni albader ang may malapit na kampo dun milf at alam nyo yun ang kampo ng mnlf sa parang malayo at ang kumander na mnlf dun na isa ay si almojahid na nakasama sa grp/mnlf peace panel.. pero di maglalapit ang kampo ng mga yan..si radulan ang nakabase sa patikul, dr. abu sa luuk, albader sa indanan…. pero wala dun ang mga indonesian dahil alam nyo kung nasaan di nga ba nasa tawi-tawi?
Gokusen,
Sa palagay mo ba ay nalalaman ni Asspweron ang difference ng MNLF, MILF, at AS gaya ng malalim mong pagkakaalam? O baka sinasadya lang guluhin na dikit-dikitin ang tatlo!
Kaya nga ang sabi ko sa unahan ay directionless at sugod lang sugod ang mga militar sa kabundukan ng Mindanao. Klaro na wala silang nalalaman sa terrain na kanilang pinupuntirya kaya nauubos sila na ipinagkakaila naman ng mga awtoridad daw!
Kawawa talaga ng ang mga civilians ninyo diyan, wala nang katahimikan. Kahit sabihin pang panahon pa ni kopong-kopong ay nandiyan na ang conflict sa Mindanao, responsibilidad ng kahit na sinumang presidente kahit na peke na pangalangaan ang kaligtasan ng mga residente.
Lameduck talaga itong si Gloria, alam niya na wala siyang K na mag-utos kay Asspweron dahil sa Hello Garci!
chi,
lahat sila alam nila pero ang malinaw sa amin protektado nila ang abu dahil sila ang nag-create niyan..at ngayon di na nila controlado ang makina na ginawa nila..katulad lang din ni Osama Bin Laden na ginawa ng america na ngayon di na rin nila kayang controlin..”war” and “terrorism” ang business ng u.s. at pilipinas kaya magkasundo sila. Ang mga puti ayaw nilang maniwala pag civilian ang nagsabi sa kanila, mas pinapaniwalaan nila ang mga intelligence na niloloko lang sila…
kaya maraming namatay na sundalo ay dahil ang mga magagaling na matataas na opisyal sa sandatahan ay nakakulong ngayon katulad nina miranda, lim, ang mga col. na may medal of valor. kaya palpak ang plano dahil iyung mga naka assign ay puro gungung naman at walang alam kundi sumunod sa reyna nila na magnanakaw.
harapan ko si general rafael kasama si almojahid na representante ng mnlf sa grp peacetalk para kausapin si uztadz na wag ituloy ang pag-atake…pero patuloy ang pagbomba ng mga militar sa marang..puro lagi na lang one-sided story ang sinasabi nila..sasabihin pa ni gen dolorfino…lost command sila uztadz? panong lost command yun eh andun ang chief-of-staff ng mnlf sa camp bitanag? Bakit di nila aminin na nung nagpunta sina gen. dolorfino dun na sinabi nilang hinostage sila eh sinunog pa nila yung isang house sa camp? personal namin nasubaybayan yan dahil andun kami at dumalo sa “maulod feast”
missing part sa unahan ng harapan…
during the “marang scenario” last april..personal namin na nakita si col. ramon na pumunta sa mnlf camp para nga paalisin ang mga mnlf sa marang dahil daw sa operation laban sa abu na nandun sa bud tumatangis..a day before na mangyari yung sa marang si Esperon nagpunta ng Jolo…at nung apr.12 dumaan sa harapan ko si general rafael kasama si almojahid sakay ng fx para kausapin si uztad…
Gokusen,
Naglolokohan lang itong administrasyon ni Gloria at US pagdating sa Abu.
Kaya puro kasinungalingan ang sinasabi nina Asspweron, Rafael, Dolorfino etc. ay dahil talo ngayon ang militar sa laban, ayaw lang aminin.
Gokusen is a local hand not foreign hand so I doubt if he knows anything. Get it?
— lahat sa amin alam namin bakit nakikialam ang Malaysian government, right…its because of Sabah Claim at isa ang malaysian government sa nasa likod ng di makalabas si Nur Misuari at mas pinapanigan ng malaysian government ang milf kaysa mnlf
ang america nakikialam din dahil nga sa mga “al qaeda” ek ek nila at dun sa reward for justice nila …
kung may mga ibang bansa pa na nakikisawsaw sa gulo ay ang mga ka-alyado rin ng mga bansang binanggit ko..
Yun ngang picture ni albader parad sa wanted list nila eh di nga si albader yun kundi yung pinsan niya na abu rin na patay na..at ultimo nanay ni albader kasama niya sa grupo pero nakakalabas masok sa marine brigade…kapag may nahuli na ex-abu sasabihin nila o yan kilala mo yan sabay turo sa nanay ni albader..sasabihin ng nahuli nila..”nanay ni albader”
Gokusen, I was only kidding. I know you know so many things.
Marcos was determined to claim Sabah until his ouster. When Cory Aquino took over, the claim died. Since then, no RP President seriously pursued it.
goji,
sinasagot ko lang in general…oks lang yun para sa kaalaman ng lahat yan..na ang mga kalahi ko eh ginagawang “bola” ng mga iba’t-ibang may interests na bansa.
ang masakit nga yung bola na ginagamit nila may mga buhay, may pakiramdam..nahihirapan na at iisa lang ang tanong hanggang kelan pa at hanggang saan pa? di ba nila maintindihan yun?
Oops, sorry, hindi Minister of Justice, Minister of Defense. Kaya ngayon criticized pati creation ng Ministry of Defense namin ni Abe, who is being pressured to resign by the public. Malakas ang pressure sabi ng news na pinanonood ko sa gabi at umaga dito sa Bay Area. Gusto ko na ngang umuwi para makasama sa mga rally at protesta sa Tokyo as a matter of fact kundi nga lang sa tiya ko.
Anyway, tuloy ang laban sa Unano. Dapat nang masibak ang bobang iyan.
Chi:
Talagang ungas. May gana pang magpa-cute, e acute naman na siya. Namamatay na ang maraming pilipino, palandi-landi pa ang ungas. Puede ba, sibakin na ang unanong iyan. Kakagigil!
Update ko lang kayo,
Ung mga namatay ay mga dating mnlf na kasama sa integration sa afp at di mga idinadawit nila na mga kasama ng abu…
kahapon,Twenty four government soldiers died yesterday in two separate encounters in the island province of Sulu, including former combatants of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) now affiliated with the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP),
The first firefight took place yesterday morning at Barangay Lanut Baranjah, Indanan Sulu. A contingent of Philippine Army soldiers conducted a patrol in the village when a heavily armed Abu Sayyaf ambushed them that resulted in the killing of 11 soldiers two others seriously wounded, who were immediately brought to the public hospital in Jolo for medical treatment
Seven of the 11 Army casualties were MNLF integrees who were integrated into the AFP as a result of the 1996 GRP-MNLF Final Agreemnt.
another Army patrol clashed with ASG militants in Barangay Tabaking, Maimbung, Sulu which resulted to the death of 13 soldiers and one from the Abu Sayyaf Group. The firefight lasted until midnight last night which prompted the AFP to launch heavy bombardment against suspected lairs of the ASG
the AFP suffered heavy casualties during both encounters because the ASG wore Army unforms complete with patches and disguised as Army soldiers.
Ung patay na isa na abu na sinasabi nila, eh akala nila kasama nilang sundalo dahil nakasuot ng uniform ng sundalo at kasama nilang dinala sa Army Headquarters sa jolo dahil ang suot nitong uniform ay pag-aari ng 33rd Infantry Battalion at maraming casualties ang militar dahil na infiltrate sila ng kalaban sa pamamagitan ng pagsuot ng uniporme ng army…
Ngayon, pinamamalita naman ng magagaling na spokesperson ng militar na lumabas ng bansa sina Uztadz Malik at Kumander Kaid..para sa kaalaman ng mga kamoteng spokesperson..di umaalis ng lugar niya si uztadz at kahit kelan di un aalis para iwan ang mga tao niya pati na rin si kumander kaid… pero nakahanda sila sa mga anumang gagawin pag-atake sa kanila ng gobyerno at lagi naman silang nakahanda…pero hindi nangangahulugan na tutulong sila sa abu..dalawa ang aabangan nila ang pagatake sa kanila ng abu at ng mga sundalo bakit aalis si uztadz sa lugar niya para lang pumunta sa kalapit na bansa? Wala na ba silang sasabihing totoo sa tamang bayan?
Ang gobyerno ang nagsimula ng kaguluhan dapat alam nilang tapusin na di dadanak ang maraming dugo ng pilipino..
Gokusen;
The ongoing war in Mindanao is a ground breaking ceremony. The architect have drawn the plan, and the players are at work. The president needs money, she spent a lot this last election, this is the only way she can produce cash.America has earmarked million dollars in military aid to the Philippines in exchange,U.S. will maintain an extended presence in the region, as the joint U.S.-Philippine Balikatan military exercises. In addition to the political significance of the exercises, they are important because participating U.S. troops routinely leave behind equipment and material that can then be used by the Philippine military, the U.S. military has supplied cargo planes, helicopters and trucks for the operations against the Abu Sayyaf. Arroyo was able to translate this into “kurakot” and her strong support for the Bush administration’s “war on terrorism” into millions of dollars in economic and military aid and billion in trade benefits. That is why, Esperon military spokesman tagged them as Abu Sayyaf. They will not used the term MILF because Esperon army is declaring war for the whole Islam. Bush administration had been monitoring the campaign against the Abu Sayyaf only and not to MILF or MNLF. If there is no conflict such as these “moro-moro” war and no casualties, how could the midget convince Bush that the Philippines needs fund in combating war against Al Qaeda and the war against terrorism.
U.S. support for the campaign against the Abu Sayyaf will strengthen Arroyo’s ties with Bush. Arroyo will not eliminate the ABU’s Moreover, If they are all perished , there is rising concern that other Moro political groups will be targeted as the newest terrorist threats once the Abu Sayyaf campaign dies down. Maybe,Abedol,Abulos Kurayyaf group,headed by kumander Kurraff Garciff. Who knows? What the name of a new terrorist group!
Gokusen..thanks for confirming about the sabah claim..I was still in elementary school nababasa ko na tungkol dian..nag high school.. nag college at ngayon retired na ako..hindi pa bala na resolve ang problemang na iyan..and all the while I thought tapos na ang lahat about the sabah claim..and when Parasabayn mentioned the Malaysian gov’t being interested in the Phil.. I thought about that..
lubhang napakasakit ang nangyayaring ito sa timog na bahagi ng bansa partikular sa sulu at sa basilan.
sa nakapahabang panahon ng hindi matigil tigil na labanan sa mindanao, walang ibang kaawaawa kundi ang mga inosenteng mamamayang nagiging biktima ng walang kuwentang digmaan sa pagitan ng MNLF-militar-MILF-militar-abu sayyaf gayundin ang mga naulila ng mga kawal na naiwang walang susuporta sa pagkawal ng bawat ama ng tahanan.
nakakalungkot isipin na ang madali lamang na solusyunang suliranin ay hindi gustong tapusin ng mga nakaupo sa poder at parang nasisiyahan pa silang mabatid ng buong mundo na ang kapwa pilipino ay napapatayan nang walang katapusan. mas pinangingibabaw ng mga ganid na namumuno, pambansa man o lokal, ang personal nilang interes at pawang pakunwari lamang ang pag-aalala sa kapakanan ng mga kawawang naiipit sa gulo at labanan.
ito ang bunga ng pagkauhaw sa kapangyarihan ng magagaling nating lider na mas gustong busabusin ang mamamayan kaysa gampanan ang kanilang tunay na tungkuling sinumpaan!
dapat ding maisip ng mga naumuno sa mga nag-aaklas na tayo ay pareparehong pilipino, muslim man o kristiyano.
My sympathy to the people of Mindanao and Sulu. I hope the Americans are not killing Filipinos, for they are not supposed to since the Moro problem is a domestic issue that the Philippine government is duty-bound to address without foreign interference.
Such meddling in Philippine affairs should be condemned as a matter of fact.
gusa77 Says: “……take a look at them when they are in Gala attire it seems they engages in so many battles.”
gusa, not all awards/medals conferred to an officer come from his personal achievements either on combat or garrison assigment. how the lowly soldiers discharge their loyalty and devotion to the constitution as main objective of their sworn allegiance to the republic is the basis of any officers’ awards.
even a wounded personnel medal should not be always taken as acquired when wounded in combat. some of them are self inflicted covered up by a fabricated after encounter report.
how do i know? i know some who shot their own feet!
“Maybe,Abedol,Abulos Kurayyaf group,headed by kumander Kurraff Garciff. Who knows? What the name of a new terrorist group!”
a galeng a pareng a cocoy, ah?!
but will it not sound german? imagine, kuraff garciff?
pareng cocoy, sana naman hindi ka nakainom, hane?
he he he heeeeh!
your bersdey’s hang under?
looking on the situation, the on-going battle in mindanao seems to have no military assault plan & contingencies, no specific target as to whom they are supposed to fire their weapons, no reliable intelligence reports (this is very clear, no doubt!) but most of all, “no commander in-chief giving the right order” to these poor soldiers. hence, i’ll come to conclude of the situation that gloria and esperon are simply standing “idly” no matter how many soldiers and civilians are killed (they never care), because to them, “business must not stop”, so ordered. signed gloria, esperon & bush.
gokusen,
i go through your posts, i really felt sorry to your townmates and the whole people of mindanao who are in the edge of death. accept my sympathy and let’s pray for them.
AFP suffered heavy casualties during both encounters because the ASG wore Army unforms complete with patches and disguised as Army soldiers.
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Gokusen,
O, pati na sa taktika ay talo pa rin ang AFP ng ASG! Hindi ba nahihiya si Gloria and Asspweron niyan na sinasayang lang nila ang buhay ng mga kawawang sundalo/MNLF integrated into AFP! Pambala lang ang tingin nila sa mga taong ito!
Ang gobyerno ang nagsimula ng kaguluhan dapat alam nilang tapusin na di dadanak ang maraming dugo ng pilipino..
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Eksakto, Gokusen!
Ang deprensya ay sobrang bobo at pa-cute lang ang namumuno ng pekeng gobyerno, at ang cheat-of-stuff ay supot, ang intel ay palpak kaya sila man ay nagkakagulo dahil wala silang idea kung papaano lalabas sa problema na kanilang sinimulan.
Ang kawawa ay ang mga sibilyan! Magpatayan silang lahat pero ilikas ang mga sibilyan sa safe na lugar, hindi iyong merong naiipit sa crossfire na mga bata!
Bago pasukin ang lair ng ASG ay dapat meron na silang anticipation sa mga haharapin at ng naiiwasan ang sobrang danak ng dugo sa kanilang panig! Sino bang tahimik na pinoy ang may gustong may ASG sa Mindanao, wala!
Walang vision ang mga ito na tagapagtanggol daw ng katahimikan ng Pinas!
The ongoing conflict in Mindanao has caught the attention of international media. The only time the world gets to notice us is when we: (1) are engulfed by disasters; or (2), when we show off our predilections for the inane and the trivial. We try to get into the Guiness Book of Records for the longest longaniza, the longest bangus grill, the longest banana-cue, the largest kalamay, and all such trivial pursuits. Our country has become a perpetual theater of the absurd.
Blood being spilled in Mindanao for the country is a good thing. It’s patriotic, courageous & brave.
Blood being spilled in Mindanao for Gloria is a bad thing. It’s suicide.
My heart goes out to our soldiers who have lost their lives as well the families who have been displaced. Gloria is not worth it.
I’m listening to the music of Asin as I read this blog at this moment. Tumutulo ang luha ko sa mga nasawing mga collateral damages na karamihan ay Moslem. Hindi ko masisisi ang mga nagtatanggol ng lupain nila sa Sulu, etc. dahil wala naman talagang pakinabang sa gobyerno nila lalo na ngayong kriminal ang nakaupo. Dapat iyong mga sundalo, mag-aklas. Dapat silang mag-walk out kung ang kalaban naman nila ay mga kababayan nila na iba lang ang religion. Hindi nila trabaho ang humuli ng mga tulisan. Trabaho iyan ng mga pulis. Inutil talaga!!!
Here’s the page where you can listen to the Asin song. It’s about the civil war in Mindanao.
youtube.com/watch?v=0-SODgcQ4LI
Nakakaiyak!
Off topic but would like to share this bit of info on another case of injustice only in da pilipins and other non-progressive countries:
Dr. Annalisa Enrile, assistant clinical professor at the University of Southern California attended the Women’s International Solidarity Affair in Manila. Returning to the US on August 5, authorities barred her from boarding her flight because her name was allegedly on the “hold-departure order” list of the Bureau of Immigration.
For photos, letter of Dr. Enrile to the US ambassador, chronology of events and other news stories please visit:
http://www.arkibongbayan.org/
Arkibong Bayan Web Team
Any relation to Senator Enrile, this Dr. Enrile? I love Asin songs. The group’s messages hit hard like a sword.
There are at least four Army and four Marine battalions – composed of at least 500 men each – in Sulu before the reinforcements came.
Once all the reinforcements arrive, the military strength in Sulu will be composed of about 5,000 men. – GMANews.TV
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kailangan ba ng govt na maglagay ng ganung 5,000 sundalo panlaban sa sinasabi nilang 350 na asg sa sulu…..
kawawa naman tong 5,000 na sundalo na ganun-ganun lang kung isakripisyo ng govt..
The military said the Abu Sayyaf has about 370 members, about 250 of them are situated in Sulu.
The military, however, could not say the number of the rogue MNLF members said to be sympathetic to detained Moro leader Nur Misuari.
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di ba pedeng sabihin ng govt na mga abu lang ..bakit lagi nilang ikinakabit ang mnlf..eh sino bang maraming namatay di ba ang mga mnlf na kasama sa integration dahil sila una niyong sinabak dahil alam nyo kapwa muslim ang kalaban..
“On the part of the Army, we are sending to Sulu one battalion from Visayas and another battalion from Luzon. We are not identifying the battalions for operations reasons, it may create operational vacuum in the areas,” said Torres.
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ayaw nilang banggitin ang mga battalions kasi alam nila na ang ipadadala nila mga tao at sympathizer ni col. querubin at sen. trillanes..
President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo on Saturday remained steadfast to her administration’s all-out war against the Abu Sayyaf group and other rogue elements accused of beheading 10 of the 14 Marines who died in a July 10 firefight in Tipo-Tipo, Basilan.
Mrs Arroyo said the war in Mindanao, which so far claimed the lives of 25 soldiers and wounded 10 others, is not an act of vengeance but a strategy to win peace,” against those who spread “mayhem” and “bloodsport” in the South.
“We cannot allow terrorists to hold the South hostage to their agenda of mayhem and bloodsport,” she said.
“We seek peace with those with peaceful intentions. But we also week justice for our soldiers, civilians and communities affected by this conflict. Our troops will prevail because our intentions are just and noble,” she added.
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kung ang gyera sa mindanao ang winning piece ng gobyerno..nanalo ba ? Sino ba ang napugutan ng ulo? At sino maraming namatay? At saan kailangan sila dapat manalo?
ah..alam ko na panalong-panalo sila sa pagwasak ng kapayapaan at pagkitil ng buhay ng marami…nandaya na nga sa election pati pa ba ang kasalukuyang pangyayari sa mindanao dadayain nyo pa…panalo nga kayo sa pandaraya sa lahat ng bagay…
just and noble ha….talk to moon …!
kailangan ba ng govt na maglagay ng ganung 5,000 sundalo panlaban sa sinasabi nilang 350 na asg sa sulu…..
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Kailangan, Gokusen, para sa kanilang propaganda!
Ang dala ng mga sundalo ay katapangan lamang halos, kulang sa armas kahit luma, kulang sa intelligence, at kulang sa knowledge of the Sulu terrain.
Hindi porke 5000 ang sundalo against 350 ASG ay mananalo ang militar kung sila ay pinapunta doon ng hindi nakahanda, maliban sa mamatay!
di ba pedeng sabihin ng govt na mga abu lang ..bakit lagi nilang ikinakabit ang mnlf..eh sino bang maraming namatay di ba ang mga mnlf na kasama sa integration dahil sila una niyong sinabak dahil alam nyo kapwa muslim ang kalaban..
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Gokusen,
Oras na para mag-isip ang MNLF, sila ang ginagawang pawns na parang hindi pinanghihinayang ang kanilang buhay! Sabagay, ang mga marines nga ay isinusugod lang ni Gloria at Asspweron sa gera ngayon, ang MNLF pa kaya na “saling-pusa” lang sa kanila! Iyan ang buhay sa ilalim sng pekeng gobyerno ni Gloria, 10 singko lang!
Oopps. Hindi 10 singko, wala palang halaga!
ayaw nilang banggitin ang mga battalions kasi alam nila na ang ipadadala nila mga tao at sympathizer ni col. querubin at sen. trillanes..
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Para sila naman ang maubos at ng mawalan na ng problema si Gloria. ‘Yan ang akala niya! Delikadong masyado ang games ofs the generals na ito!
Marunong magtahi-tahi ng sinasabi ang commander-in-cheat, at magandang basahin. Pero sa totoo, naniniwala ako sa iyo, Gokusen, na “kung ang gyera sa mindanao ang winning piece ng gobyerno..nanalo ba ? Sino ba ang napugutan ng ulo? At sino maraming namatay? At saan kailangan sila dapat manalo?”
Ginagawa tayong tanga nitong si Gloria!
tungkol nga pala sa mga namamatay sa panig ng mga abu ssayaf, eto ang iniisip ko, meron din bang (BOC) board of canvassers doon sa gitna ng labanan na taga bilang? bakit alam nila kaagad ang bilang ng mga napapatay (daw) nila na rebelde? hinde kaya may daya din yon ?
sa larangan ng digmaan, walang nananalo. lahat TALO!
Talaga, MRivera. Walang puso itong si Gloria Arroyo. Para lang mapagtakpan ang galit ng mga Marines sa kapalpakan niya ang ng kanyang mga kampon,nagbukas na naman ng panibagong giyera. Ginagawang bala sa kanyon ito ating mga sundalo.
Ginulo rin niya ang mga civilian community na kailangan lumisan sa kanilang tinitirhan. Hindi makapagtrabaho ang mga magulang. Walang makain. Mga bata hindi maka-pag-aral.
Totoo yang sinabi mo, Mrivera. Pati ang mga bata na nasa sinapupunan pa lang ng mga ina at talo!
Our stars studed war planner are applying by numbers strategies against home court battles,those are not applicables in any type of war games due your opponents knew the weakness whom they running against with.Even their enemies were miles away they knew already how to set an offensive move,on just any environmental surrounding changes. What they need one company of rangers(120 men),familiarize on dirty tricks,ABUS are playing dirty so match it up w/dirty too.They don’t need 5 regiments of URBAN SOLDIER, those gallantry mens wiil be only history. Unless sending more troops are just to justified something they covering,300-400 mix fighters vs 5000 modern equip troops w/ air strike supports,a war tacticians with that count will never applied numbers games.Match up of expertise only they need.
Ellen, I agree. Arroyo is the heartless person in this world.
Marcos was described as the most cruel dictator; yet as a lawyer and soldier, he didn’t have the heart to launch such an unjustified attack on the south. Arroyo reminds me of Bush who used the 9/11 as the vehicle to attack Iraq that he had long planned to do before 9/11. Arroyo indeed learned so much from his idol Bush. Of much concern now is the involvement of US troops. It takes only one US soldier to get accidentally hurt or killed for the US to justify their all-out attack on the south. That kind of scenario is very possible as proven by history. From where we sit, we could only pray for the best.
I should have said the “most” heartless person, this Arroyo. She is not a lawyer and doesn’t know the laws; but common sense dictates that we must protect the people’s human rights.
She has never been a soldier so she doesn’t know how a soldier feels and think; but common sense dictates that a true blooded Filipino soldier does not want to fight and kill another fellow Filipino regardless of his religion. All these simple, basic values cannot be found in Arroyo, the most heartless person in the world surpassing that of Hitler.
Lets not fool ourselves anymore. Other countries adviced us not to go into any war anymore. They know we dont have a chance at all. We were never in the offensive. The enemies are. The generals are trying hard to fill their quota of cadaver bags. With the kind of hotheads we have, its better to capitulate now to stop senseless killings. I believe that small kid I asked at Jolo pier why they dont stop the war and he said, they will stop as soon as the army surrender. Our soldiers are trained for urban warfare against unarmed foes. Not against afghan vets. When did we ever win a war or skirmish in the south? Perhaps its high time to transfer the AFP HQs, the Navy, the Army and the Airforce in Sitangkai or nearby it so they can be always on warfooting. And transfer Malacanan there also. That will stop the protests here.
Valdemar, outwardly, other countries advise us not to go to war but behind the scene, they do encourage and even provide assistance. I need not elaborate.