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Natatakot ba si Biazon kay Trillanes sa 2013?

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Nakakapagtaka itong si dating senator na ngayon ay Muntinlupa Rep. Rodolfo Biazon.
Samantalang ang karamihan ay nag-aapela kay Pangulong Aquino na tulungang makalaya si Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV at sinabi na ni P-Noy na hindi makatarungan ang pitong taon na pagkakulong ng batang senador , ito naman si Biazon ay nagbabala na dapat daw huwag maki-alam si P-Noy .

Ang dating sa sinabi ni Biazon ay ayaw niyang makalaya si Trillanes.

Ano ba ang kasalanan ni Trillanes? Noong Hulyo 27, 2003, nanindigan siya kasama ang mga 70 na batang opisyal at mga 300 na sundalo laban sa kurakutan sa military at paggamit ng military sa mga gawain na hindi naayon sa kanilang tungkulin na magprotekta sa taumbayan. Sinabi nila na dapat bumaba si Gloria Arroyo sa kapangyarihan.

Naganap ito sa Oakwood Hotel sa Makati.Pagkatapos ng 19 na oras, nagdesisyun sila na magsurender basta palayain lang ang sundalo. Ang mga lider lang ang mananagot.
Ang isinampa na kaso kina Trillanes ay kudeta. Sabi ni P-Noy, ang kudeta, ayon sa batas, ay biglaan, brutal na atake sa isang lugar ng military at mang-aagaw ng kapangyarihan.

Sabi nga ni P-Noy, Oakwood Hotel ang inakupahan nina Trillanes, hindi military installation. Walang nasaktan o namatay sa ginawa nina Trillanes sa Oakwood.
Tumakbo si Trillanes noong 2007 sa pagka-senador at nanalo kahit na siya ay nakakulong at walang masyadong ginastos . Ang boto na nakuha ni Trillanes ay pahayag ng taumbayan na para sa kanila, hindi krimen ang ginawa ni Trillanes na paglaban kay Arroyo.

Ang nakapagtataka kay Biazon ay pumunta pa yan sa Oakwood noon na akala naman ng marami ay may malasakit sa mga hinaing ng mga Magdalo.

Nang proklamasyon ni Trillanes bilang senador, si Biazon pa ang sumundo sa kanya mula sa Marine Brig sa Fort Bonifacio papuntang Comelec.

Noong nakaraang eleksyun, isinama pa ng Magdalo ang kanyang anak na si dating Rep. Ruffy Biazon sa kanilang sinuportahan sa pagka-senador. Natalo nga lang.

Tingin yata ni Biazon kay Trillanes ay competitor niya para sa senado sa 2013. Nakapagtataka ito dahil 12 naman ang bobotohin ng mga tao para senador. Pwede naman na dalawa silang military ang bobotohin ng taumbayan. Katulad ng nangyari noong 2007 na tatlo ang nanalo:Trillanes, Ping Lacson at Gringo Honasan.

Sa 2013, malamang na tatakbo para senador si Biazon. Ganun din si Honasan at Trillanes. Isip siguro ni Biazon, kailangan mabawasan ang kalaban.

Para lang magiging senador ulit, mas gugustuhin ni Biazon na magdusa pa ang isang taong lumaban sa reyna ng katiwalian.

Ayaw ko yata bomoto sa kanya sa 2013.

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92 Comments

  1. Kapag ganyan ang paninindigan ni Pong Biazon, alaws na rin yan sa 2013 kapag kumandidato sa pagka senador. Kung ito ngang anak, hindi na nakalusot nitong last election.

  2. patria adorada patria adorada

    unti-unti naaalis ang respeto ko sa kanya.tsk..tsk..sayang

  3. MPRivera MPRivera

    Gen Biazon, bokya ka na sa 2013.

    Tsk. tsk. tsk.

    Sayang. Ganda pa naman ang build up ko sa iyo noong ikaw ang CSAFP kung kailan sa ilalim ng leadership mo kami nag-o-operate sa buong Metro Manila and suburbs implementing the counter-insurgency program ng AFP.

    Ganyan lang pala ang kinatatakutan mo – ang pagkandidato muli ni Sonny Trillanes sa 2013.

    Know what? Matanda ka na. Dapat magpahinga ka na o kaya ay kumandidato ka na lang uli as reperesentative ng Muntinlupa and leave Sen Trillanes alone.

    Sa ganyang mga katwiran mo, malabo ka nang manalo uli sa halalan sa pagka senador sa 2010. Kahit itaga mo ‘yan sa mukha ni Malditas Glutoierrez.

  4. MPRivera MPRivera

    Minsan minsan parang si Brenda din ang takbo ng utak nitong si Gen Biazon, eh. Habang tumatanda ay naiiwan ang huwisyo at ang utak ay katulad ng amorseko, kumakapit sa damit ng sinumang mapagawi sa kanilang kinalalagyan kaya ganyang nagiging dispalinghado ang katwiran.

  5. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Tatang Pong Biazon tumahimik ka muna. Hayaan mo muna ang diskarte ni PNoy. Kung palpak di banatan mo.

  6. chi chi

    Ala ay kung gan-an ang Pong Biazon e ngayon pa lang against na sa kanya ang mga bulong ko, hala! Linawin nya ang kanyang pananalita at wala syang botong maaasahan sa amin. Kay aga-aga at layo pa ng 2013 pumupustura na sya. Tama si Ka Diego, hayaan nya ang diskarte ni PNoy.

    Pahinga na sya dapat, tama na ang pork na kinita nya. Ano ba ang exceptional na nagawa ng matandang Biazon sa Senado? Paki-linaw nga ang aking isipan dahil wala akong matandaan.

  7. Gaya ni Trillanes at Honasan, midterm senatorial winner din si Lacson, na nauna nang inginuso ni Biazon kay Noynoy na huwag daw pakikialaman ukol sa Dacer-Corbito disappearance (mas appropriate yung “disappearance” kesa “murder” dahil wala namang pisikal na ebidensiyang patay na nga yung dalawa). Hindi ko maintindihan noon ang punto nung ginawa niyang iyon.

    Salamat Ellen, at lumutang na meron palang anggulong politikal, wala pa rin akong maisip na dahilan sa ngayon bukod diyan sa sapantaha mo.

  8. chi chi

    Ganun ba, Tongue? Inginuso din pala ni Pong si Ping! E wala naman syang panalo sa mga batang senador na ito, magretiro na lang sya kesa sa manggulo.

  9. Eto ang link: http://www.tribuneonline.org/headlines/20100629hed3.html

    Outgoing Sen. Rodolfo Biazon yesterday warned incoming President Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino to distance himself from colleague, Sen. Panfilo Lacson and adopt a “hands off policy” once he assumes the presidency formally, in dealing with Lacson’s double murder charges.

    Biazon issued this warning to his party mate from the Liberal Party (LP), despite being aware of the fact that Lacson supported the president-elect in the last national polls, even detailing some of his own staff during the duration of the campaign to the party and to Aquino himself.

  10. Rep. Rodolfo Biazon is one kind of political butterfly whose specie is aplenty in our midst. Her female counterpart is Sen. Miriam. It’s a revelation that he’s with LP now but when we trace back his party affiliation, paiba iba ang kanyang kulay tuwing may election. Talagang parang paru-parong buking, nagpalipad lipad, dumapo at kung saan may masisimsim na na political advantage, andun siya. I doubt if PNoy will make pansin to him.

  11. chi chi

    #9, Tongue, aba ay talaga naman palang taga-bulong si tatang Biazon. Gusto nya nakakulong sina Sens Sonny at Ping para konti lang kalaban sa 2013. Tumabi nga sya at baka malasin pa si PNoy kung makinig sa kanya.

  12. florry florry

    Out of topic, break muna tayo.

    I don’t know if you’ve heard or watched David Letterman’s Show when he used Filipino-American for his top ten reasons, but this certainly shows we are an emerging group in this diverse society to be featured in Dave’s famous TV show..

    Happy reading to all!!! TOP TEN:

    Reasons Why There Couldn’t Be a Filipino-American US President,

    10.The White House is not big enough for in-laws and extended relatives.

    9. There are not enough parking spaces at the White House for – 2 Honda Civics,
    2 Toyota Land Cruisers, 3 Toyota Corollas, a Mercedes Benz, a BMW , and
    an MPV (My Pinoy Van).

    8. Dignitaries generally are intimidated by eating with their fingers at State dinners.

    7. There are too many dining rooms in the White House – where will they put
    the picture of the Last Supper?

    6. The White House walls are not big enough to hold a pair of giant wooden spoon and fork

    5. Secret Service staff won’t respond to ‘psst… psst’ or hoy.hoy hoy

    4. Secret Service staff will not be comfortable driving the presidential car with a Holy Rosary hanging on the rearview mirror, or the statue of the Santo Nino on the dashboard.

    3. No budget allocation to purchase a Karaoke music-machine for every room in the White House.

    2. State dinners do not allow ‘Take Home’.

    1. AND THE NUMBER 1 REASON WHY THERE COULDN’T
    BE A FILIPINO-AMERICAN U.S. PRESIDENT IS…
    Air Force One does not allow overweight Balikbayan boxes!

  13. baycas2 baycas2

    Off-topic:

    I like retired Ambassador Hermie C. Cruz’s statement:

    In the Philippines, our motto should be ” We have many lawbreakers in the Philippines. Unlike the French, we export them as ambassadors. On top of that, after breaking the law, we give them presidential medals!”

    It’s found here: http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=34 . Discussion’s great also there (minus the spam comments, of course).

    Update:

    Speaking (again) of political ambassadors, I felt sad when Noynoy announced his first ambassadorial appointment – an obvious accommodation to retired Lt. Gen. Nestor Ochoa who was the acting AFP chief before he (Noynoy) assumed office as Commander-in-Chief. The reaction to the announcement was, you guessed it, “nothing has changed, especially in the DFA.”

    Rey O. Arcilla said it here: http://www.malaya.com.ph/07132010/edrey.html

    I also posted follow-up comments re: the “de facto” ambassadors here: http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=11965

  14. baycas2 baycas2

    Off-topic:

    I like retired Ambassador Hermie C. Cruz’s statement:

    In the Philippines, our motto should be ” We have many lawbreakers in the Philippines. Unlike the French, we export them as ambassadors. On top of that, after breaking the law, we give them presidential medals!”

    It’s found here: http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=34 . Discussion’s great also there (minus the spam comments, of course).

    Update:

    Speaking (again) of political ambassadors, I felt sad when Noynoy announced his first ambassadorial appointment – an obvious accommodation to retired Lt. Gen. Nestor Ochoa who was the acting AFP chief before he (Noynoy) assumed office as Commander-in-Chief. The reaction to the announcement was, you guessed it, “nothing has changed, especially in the DFA.”

    Rey O. Arcilla said it in a Malaya article entitled “Kapit-Tuko” dated July 13, 2010.

    I also posted follow-up comments re: the “de facto” ambassadors here: http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=11965

  15. ruffyb ruffyb

    Ellen,

    It is unfortunate that you have interpreted incorrectly Rep. Pong Biazon’s statement regarding the case of Sen. Trillanes. We are friends and have always been on the same side.

    It is quite clear that nowhere in Rep. Biazon’s statement did he say that Sen. TRillanes is guilty of anything nor does he desire Sen. Trillanes to remain behind bars indefinitely. Your article’s title is clearly off the mark from the intention of his statement, to the point that if we were not friends, I would have seen the title as a deliberate attempt to put Rep. Biazon in a bad light. But as I said, we are friends, so that is far from my mind.

    The point of Rep. Biazon is all about how President Aquino will act as President of the Republic. The Presidency is a unique position in government and society. It is not like any other, therefore the one who occupies that position cannot be expected to act just like any ordinary politician or citizen.

    Rep. Pong Biazon has always believed that we must exact on the President the highest standards of service, the loftiest degree of statesmanship and the most balanced application of the powers of the office. He has always believed this NO MATTER WHO THE PRESIDENT IS.

    His recent statement is not about Sen. Trillanes, it is about Pres. Aquino. So it is incorrect to interpret it as having something to do with a personal agenda against the good senator. PLease do not turn it into a Biazon vs. Trillanes spectacle because it is not.

    Rep. Pong Biazon’s comment revolves around his concern that Pres. Aquino should not be placed in a situation which would make him vulnerable to criticisms of meddling in the justice system. We must all remember that even if we think that Sen. Trillanes is innocent of the charges, there is still a process in place, a process which by no means should be short circuited by anyone, not even the president.

    This is the same principle that he held Pres. Arroyo accountable for when he joined the clamor against her. This is the same principle that he invoked on Pres. Cory Aquino when she sought his advice while he was still in active military service.

    He issued that statement not out of spite for Sen. Trillanes (to whom we are grateful to for including me in his endorsed senatorial line up) but out of the desire to keep Pres. Nonoy Aquino on a higher plane than his predecessor who was notorious for using the powers of the presidency for partisan or personal gain.

    To all those who have commented that this has something to do with 2013, I just implore you to keep the discussion on higher level of intellectual exchange. Get yourselves out of the pit of simpleton ideas where everything is all about the elections. That is what separates the statesmen from the politicians in the gutter, so let us not allow ourselves to wallow there with them.

    To the one who said Pong Biazon is a political butterfly, you better read your history before you make that accusation. Study and know the difference between being political butterfly and being consistent with principles of statesmanship.

    I can easily see that many of those who commented did so as a knee-jerk reaction, doing so without looking further into the events and statements in the past. it is such a pity, because knee-jerk reactions not only reveal a lack of depth, but also degrades the level of intellectual discussion.

  16. sychitpin sychitpin

    the pros and cons for Biazon’s comment were exercises of the freedom of expressions in a democratic country, people could disagree without being disagreeable.
    at the end of the day, what should matter most is nation’s interest over and above individual ambition or agenda, truth and justice must prevail

  17. sychitpin sychitpin

    sometimes in the intensity of desire to reach a goal, parties with similar persuasions collide along the way, but with calm disposition and wisdom all righteous parties would converge in the finish line as friends again and not foes, realizing each of their own merits, follies or shortcomings in a better perspective

  18. Tedanz Tedanz

    Buhay pa kaya siya .. aabot pa ba yan sa 2013 …. kung aabot man ay ulyanin na rin. Hayaan niyo na lang siyang magsalita ng magsalita …. ngayon nga lang iba na ang tono … baka nag-uumpisa na di kaya? lol

  19. ruffyb ruffyb

    Sychitpin, how I wish those who comment here would have the same level of intellectual discourse as you. Others are just a waste of space and bytes.

  20. ruffyb ruffyb

    Joeseg said:

    “Rep. Rodolfo Biazon is one kind of political butterfly whose specie is aplenty in our midst. Her female counterpart is Sen. Miriam. It’s a revelation that he’s with LP now but when we trace back his party affiliation, paiba iba ang kanyang kulay tuwing may election. Talagang parang paru-parong buking, nagpalipad lipad, dumapo at kung saan may masisimsim na na political advantage, andun siya. I doubt if PNoy will make pansin to him”

    For your information, here is Sen. Pong Biazon’s party affiliation history, beginning with his first foray into politics, which may be traced in public records at the Comelec:

    1992 as Senator – Laban ng Demokratikong Pilipino
    1995 as Senator – Laban ng Demokratikong Pilipino (in coalition with Lakas)
    1998 as Senator – Laban ng Demokratikong Pilipino (in coalition with PMP)
    2004 as Senator – Liberal Party (after LDP members left due to differences with choice of Presidential Candidate; Angara pushed for FPJ while LDP members pushed for Ping Lacson, a fellow LDP)
    2010 as Congressman – Liberal Party

    So it is inaccurate and irresponsible to say that he is a political butterfly, that “paiba iba ang kulay tuwing eleksyon”. It also means that there is no truth to your statement that you traced his party affiliation over the years. It may be interpreted that either you lied or you made a mistake. Either way, you are wrong.

    Just a piece of unsolicited advice…do not make any statement which may be debunked with facts. It makes your credibility doubtful.

  21. ruffyb ruffyb

    Chi said :

    “Pahinga na sya dapat, tama na ang pork na kinita nya. Ano ba ang exceptional na nagawa ng matandang Biazon sa Senado? Paki-linaw nga ang aking isipan dahil wala akong matandaan.”

    It is a matter of record that Sen. Pong Biazon is the author of many relevant Republic Acts which he accomplished as Senator. To name just a few out of the several, he authored the AFP Modernization Law, The COmprehensive Shelter and Finance Act, The Expansion of the Jurisdiction of Municipal Trial COurts, The Increase in Base Pay of AFP Personnel, The Increase in Combat Pay of AFP personnel, the Medal of Valor Benefits Law, and many others covering various fields.

    And mind you, these are not just co-authorships, these are as principal author and sponsor, meaning to say he debated on the floor to defend the passage of these laws.

    Not to mention that many public hearings and inquiries he conducted on various relevant issues.

    I just hope that to satisfy your question about what he has done, which is actually an insinuation that he has not done anything, try to see for yourself which senator has not really done anything, because there really are those in the chamber who have wasted taxpayers’ money.

  22. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    May dalawang pananaw sa mga comentaryo ng Pangulo.

    Sa isang panig ay si Ninez Cacho Olivares, na tila pinaparatangan ang Pangulo ng panghihimasok sa hukuman. Ang kay Pong Biazon naman, ay paalala lang, na dahan-dahan at baka maparatangan. Ganoon na nga ang nangyari.

    Ako ay sa kabilang panig. Ang Pangulo ay pinuno ng Secretary of Justice. Nararapat lang na magbigay ng utos ang Pangulo, kung sa tingin niya ay di makatarungan ang pag-uusig sa isang tao. Tulad nga ng sabi sa Berger v United States 295 U.S. 78 (1935), it is the “duty of prosecutors to seek justice, not merely to convict,”

    Ang comentaryo ng Pangulo ay base sa mga nangyari (facts) at batas. At tulad ng aking nasabi na, nagawa na yan ni Eric Holder, nang nagmungkahi ang prosecutor sa hukuman na pawalang bisa ang isang hatol, dahil nagulangan ng prosecutor ni Bush ang depensa.

    Note, pagkakait lang ng ebidensya ang nangyari kay Senator Stevens, di katulad ni Trillanes, na talagang walang batayan ang pag-uusig.

  23. martina martina

    Sa akin lang tama si Mr raffyb.

    Si Pnoy ay dapat presidente ng lahat at dapat hindi siya magbibigay ng statement na nagpapabor kaninuman, lalu na kung may issue ng guilty or not guilty. Paano kung mapalaya siya, magiging tunay kaya siyang independent in mind at hindi tatanaw ng malaking utang na loob kay Pnoy? At kung sasalungat naman siya kay Pnoy, hindi kaya naman mapagbintangan naman siyang walang utang na loob. Hindi ba nga dapat ay ‘level playing field’ for all.

    Isa pa, ganoon pa kaya idealistic si Trillanes, gayong tinuran niya na ‘kalakaran’ lang ang mga questionable dealings of Villar with the government?

  24. I stand corrected kung talagang hindi paiba-iba ng kulay si former Senator Biazon. It’s maybe because LDP where he belongs that time coalesced with Lakas then with PMP.

    But I thought Senator Biazon did not make it in 1995 but rebounded in 1998.

    In 2004, true enough, Senator Biazon left LDP but correct me if I am wrong, he joined Sen. Raul Roco’s Aksyon Demokratiko in its senatorial slate. But a little later, he left Aksyon Demokrito and joined the ticket of Gloria Macapagal Arroyo vs FPJ.

  25. MPRivera MPRivera

    Rep. Pong Biazon has always believed that we must exact on the President the highest standards of service, the loftiest degree of statesmanship and the most balanced application of the powers of the office. He has always believed this NO MATTER WHO THE PRESIDENT IS. – ruffyb.

    Even the kind of a gloria macagarapal-arrovo, the president she never was?

    Excuse me, Mr. Ruffy B, it depents on the background and circumstances on how a leader became one to consider and respect his/her position as a president. We may have been fooled many times but we will not stay fooled all the time.

    We are not saying we are not respecting your father anymore. I, for one, having served under his leadership when he was CSAFP always maintain a high regard in him most especially when he saw personally our conduct of counter-insurgency drives within Metro Manila and give directive to provide all our requirments, an act of concern never shown by any CSAFP I served with.

    But, if indeed he thinks Sen Trillanes will be a thorn along his path if he plans to run again for the upper house, then he’s being selfish and unreasonable.

  26. ruffyb ruffyb

    Joeseg said:

    “In 2004, true enough, Senator Biazon left LDP but correct me if I am wrong, he joined Sen. Raul Roco’s Aksyon Demokratiko in its senatorial slate. But a little later, he left Aksyon Demokrito and joined the ticket of Gloria Macapagal Arroyo vs FPJ.”

    Yes, I will correct you because you are wrong. Sen. Biazon, after the LDP broke apart in 2004, went looking for a party to join and he checked out Sen. Roco’s group in Aksyon Demokratiko, but he never took an oath as a member of AD, precisely because he wanted to see first what the party was all about. But after realizing that their leadership styles are not compatible, he decided not to pursue membership in AD.

    It was then that he went to the LP, which back then was regarded as “a party whose membership can fit in a Volkswagen” but with members whom Sen. Biazon could get along with and consider as like-minded with him. He became an official member of the LP BEFORE the party decided to enter into a coalition with the Administration party of GMA.

    He did not make it in 1995 because like Sen. Nene Pimentel, he was a victim of Dagdag-Bawas. And it was proven during the protest of Sen. Pimentel.

  27. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    makisawsaw po sa usaping ito. Para sa akin, kung minsan, malabong maintindihan ang bood o kalamanan ng “sinasabi ” ng isang ” nagpaparating o nagpapahiwatig (dating Sen. Biazon)” sa pina-tutungkulan ng minsahe [ Pangulong, P-Noy or Sen. Trillanes, at mga kapanalig nila,”the BOSS”.. ].Depende kasi sa “delivery” ng mensahe,” dapat huwag maki-alam si P-Noy “..Ang delivery kasi kulang ng laman ng ” statemanship, at nag-mamando ( COMMAND ) sa pangulo. Dapat, may-pahabol na paliwanag, kung bakit, huwag paki-alaman ni P-Noy ang Kaso ni Sen. Trillanes…kaya tuloy, na-uwi sa maraming ibang kahulugan, ang delivery ng mensahe…dapat maingat ang ” Biazon(s) “sa pag-sasalita, dahil,almost 90% approval ratings (83%)or 15Milyon +++ ang nagmamahal ki P-Noy, at 11Milyon naman ang bumoto sa naka-piit na mambabatas, ngunit di pinaki-kingan ng batas, na kiling lamang sa isang “Tainga or side “, sa panahon ni GMA. Ang mga bomoto or ” boss ” ng dalawa, ay mala-un nang humi-hingi ng katarungan, at pag-babago ng gobyernong(pang -TAO, di pang-SARILI, at di pag-PAPAYAMAN ). Dahil dito, sensitive ang halos 27milyon na mga bomoto, at may paniniwala sa kanila. Dapat malaman nina Biazon ang,pwersa-POWER ng “dalawang ” idolo or “ICON” for a change in the governance of the country ( bukod sa kanilang tapang at pambihirang kaka-yahan, na kaloob ng DIYOS ).

    Isa pang ponto-“points”, bilang Pangulo (halimbawa, AMA ng pamilyang maraming anak, halos 90Milyon na yata ),tungkulin niyang malaman ang bawat isang anak(mamamayan)kung ano ang kanilang kata-yuan o kalagayan sa buhay( mabuti,maysakit, at bilango. The bad, the good and the ugly, at bigyan ng kara-patang,pag-pupuri,”medication”,and above all, Love and CARING attitude. Mayroon nito si P-Noy, kaya pina-sisilip niya ang ka-ukulang “batas”(DOJ), sa isang bilangong pinag-taksilan ng tumpak na “batas” (being charge of Coup or rebellion, that for 7-years not proven guilty).Isang bilango na mambabatas,pinag-aaksayahan ng milyong budget, para gamitin sa ka-unalaran at katahimikan ng bansa, at kinabukasan ng susunod na lahi. TAMA si P-NOY dahil may LOVE and CONCERN siya sa kanyang tungkulin bilang pangulo,lalo na sa kanyang pag-mamahal sa mga mamamayan at bayang Pilipinas. The “trapos” should be very careful to these two youthful,with highly potential leadership qualities, in the delivery of their comments, hurting the almost 27-electorates ( 15M+11M, P-Noy,and Sen.Trillanes,respectively).

  28. ruffyb ruffyb

    MPRivera said:

    “But, if indeed he thinks Sen Trillanes will be a thorn along his path if he plans to run again for the upper house, then he’s being selfish and unreasonable.”

    I think I already explained the reasons behind Sen Biazon’s statements, that it had nothing to do with 2013. If you know Tatang well, you will know that such kind of political mindset is not in his character.

    I must even admit that I am more the politician than he is, often times I get frustrated with how he thinks he should behave as a politician, which actually, I think he behaves like the warrior that he is.

    Just to be more clear about it, let me refer you to the news items where his statements were reported (and I would like to clarify that these statements were not press releases on his part but were ambush interviews):

    1. http://www.tribuneonline.org/headlines/20100629hed3.html
    2. http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06/17/10/noynoy-urged-do-cory-free-trillanes

    You will note that these are the only statements he made on the issue of Sen. Trillanes. And nowhere did he say that Sen. Trillanes should remain behind bars. In fact, if you Google the name Biazon and Trillanes together, you will find that Sen. Biazon has always sided with Sen. Trillanes.

  29. ruffyb ruffyb

    Galit ka ba sakin, Ellen?

    Bakit to be moderated na ang comment ko?

    Peace!

  30. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    ruffyb:

    Maaaring naglink ka sa isang website. Minsan ay moderated yan, para walang spam. Kaya bilang pag-iingat, kapag naglink ako, tinatanggal ko ang tuldok, tulad halimbawa ng www(dot)google(dot)com.

  31. Hi Ruffy, I was out the whole day. Just came in. I’ll check.

    Ruffy, how can I be angry with you, I voted for you.

    Thanks for giving your side. But I still believe, considering the injustice that Sen. Trillanes has suffered, your Dad’s comment does not help in correcting such injustice.

    I’ll check your other comments.

  32. ruffyb ruffyb

    Thanks Ellen! Maybe it was the anti-spam / flooding software. Lumusot itong last comment ko eh. Once again, peace!

  33. ruffyb ruffyb

    saxnviolins, you’re right….thanks for the advice! I’ve always wondered why people wrote links that way. I learned something new today!

  34. Hi Ruffy, You comments that was put in moderation is now posted.

  35. Statement of Justice Secretary Leila de Lima:

    Circumspect review of the Trillanes case – Sec. De Lima

    Justice Secretary Leila M. De Lima said today that she has begun reviewing the records of the coup d’état case against Senator Antonio Trillanes IV pursuant to the directive of President Benigno C. Aquino III for the Department of Justice to thoroughly review it. It will be recalled that in an interview on Friday (16 July 2010), President Aquino expressed his opinion that the coup d’état charge brought against Senator Trillanes may need some looking into.

    “We abide by the directive of the President,” De Lima said.

    “I am reviewing the records of the case and have consulted our prosecutors, especially those handling it before the court. The Department of Justice will submit its recommendation to the President after making a thorough review of the case. The President expects nothing less than a thorough review,” De Lima added.

    The coup d’état charge against Senator Trillanes was brought about by the seizure of the Oakwood Hotel by a group of soldiers led by then Navy Lt. (SG) Trillanes in July 2003. The Department of Justice filed a case for coup d’état against Trillanes and 30 other soldiers. Both the prosecution and defense have rested their case before the Regional Trial Court, Branch 148, Makati City. They are due to submit their respective memoranda within thirty (30) days from receipt of the RTC’s July 12, 2010 Order.

    “I understand that the case will soon be deemed submitted for the court’s decision, upon the filing of the required memoranda by both the prosecution and the defense. At this stage, the options for the prosecution may be limited. And the courts have absolute discretion in the disposal of a case once it has acquired jurisdiction over it,” the Secretary said.

    “On the other hand, the President has the absolute prerogative to direct the Secretary of Justice, as an alter ego, to review the case against Senator Trillanes. It is in consonance with his oath to do justice to every man. That is also part of the thrust and mission of the new DOJ,” Secretary De Lima added.

    “I will, however, exercise care and circumspection under the circumstances, given the independence of the judiciary,” Secretary De Lima further added.

  36. chi chi

    I voted for you Ruffy, even demanded votes from my relatives and friends. At kung tatakbo ka ule, I’d still vote for you because I wanted brilliant young men to serve in the Senate. But for your dad, I maintain my position, magretiro na lang sya. Peace….

  37. chi chi

    Now I understand why Tita Cory was isnabera to the unsolicited advices, nakakagulo nga naman. Pwede ba itong mga politiko natin e magtrabaho na lang ng assigned tasks sa kanila para walang confusion and gulo?

  38. ruffyb ruffyb

    Thank you for your vote in the past and if ever, your vote in the future.

    But what is the assigned task of a legislator? Isn’t it policy formulation and oversight? And doesn’t that include giving comments and opinions on proposed and existing policy of government?

    While the president does not have to heed unsolicited advice, a legislator is also entitled to his opinion on a policy matter such as executive action. And Rep. Biazon is a legislator.

  39. MPRivera MPRivera

    Mr. Ruffy B.,

    Although I understand your position being a son, I think it is better for your father not to make comments regarding the case of Sen Trillanes so as not to be misinterpreted. He should focus all his energy in his new role as representative of your district which he inherited from you.

    You cannot blame us commenters here if we react this way because it seemed your father did nothing to stop gloria from harassing the detained officers and now that leadership has changed in the person of the legally elected President Noynoy Aquino, he (Gen Biazon) wants the president not to meddle in the reopening of the case or whatever.

    Being a former CSAFP and senior to the those appointed by the never elected president, Gen Pong can use his clout and influence to have the incarcerated officers undergo fair trial and receive gentlemen’s treatment not like they were subjected to harassment and solitary confinement when they are not yet convicted and still can wear their respective ranks in their uniforms.

    Please bear in mind that as taxpayers, it is our right to be faithfully served by those in the government particularly the lawmakers we elected to represent us in the House by crafting laws not to be enjoyed only by the moneyed and influential but also ordinary Filipinos.

    It is from our taxes where they draw their salaries and the pork barrel plus other perks and what we only ask is genuine service not too much politicizing like what we observed during the term of the president who never was. You were there, and you have seen with your own two eyes how the administration congressmen blocked every impeachment file against the glued woman in malakanyang in exchange of handsome cash. Did you try lifting your fingers? I did not see it.

  40. MPRivera MPRivera

    For your info, Mr. Ruffy B, kahit hindi ako nakaboto dito sa Riyadh being registered in Jeddah, I circulated text messages na kasama ang pangalan mo sa senatorial line up. Pamilya ko, mga kamag-anak, kaibigan at mga kakilala ay ipinangampanya kita believing kailangan ang mga katulad mo sa senado.

    Nakakatuwa naman, ang mga nanalong ibinoto ng mga nauutong botante ay ‘yung mga artistang halos puro porma lang ang ginagawa kapag may sesyon.

    Dapat, isa ka sa mga senador ngayon subalit hindi sapat ang boto na aming nakalap para sa iyong panalo. Sayang!

  41. Oblak Oblak

    I agree with those who believe that Noynoy should not touch the Trillanes case. Hindi na ako susuong pa sa discussion na kung liable sya ng coup d’etat. Ang alam ko kasi submitted na for decision ang kaso pagkatapos mag submit ng kanya kanyang memoranda ang dalawang panig. Hintayin na lang ang desisyon ng korte.

    Yung sa kaso ni dating senator Biazon, i agree sa comment nya. Ang ganang akin lang, tutal hindi na rin naman sya senador at ang issue ni Trillanes ay nakaka apekto sa Senado, sana huwag na lang mag comment sa media. May direct line naman siguro sya kay Noynoy, iderecho na lang ang comment pero iwasan din ang pag advice kung ano ang gagawin kung hindi naman hinihingi.

  42. I can see where Rep. Biazon is coming from in expressing his opinion that PNoy must not interfere with the affairs of the judiciary. To add to the explanations provided by ruffyb, I’d say, we hated Aling Gloria for so brazenly meddling in anything that would favor or protect her, be it in the judiciary, in the executive, even in the legislature. We would not want to see our beloved president doing things exactly the same way as the previous non-president we all so loved to hate.

    Having said that, I share the opinion of most bloggers here that PNoy did not err in expressing his opinion in Sen. Trillanes’ case and ordering the DOJ to review the same. In ordering the DOJ to review the case, the President simply knows that, just like everybody else, he has to play by the rules.

    He could have simply ordered the DOJ to drop the case, and he would have scored a lot of extra points with the 11 million voters who sent Lt. SG Trillanes to the Senate. He could have done the same for all the other “Tanay detainees”. But, if he did, how similar would he be to Aling Gloria?

    At the end of the day, it won’t be so much as to which side one played for. What would matter most is how one adhered to the rules and principles of fair play.

    We are a democracy now. No matter how much we may disagree with other people’s opinion, we are bound by our love for democracy to respect them. My heart may lie with the majority of the bloggers here, but I do respect Rep. Biazon’s opinion, much as we all have to respect PNoy’s opinion.

  43. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Re: Circumspect review of the Trillanes case – Sec. De Lima

    Posible ang mga prosecutors na nagsampa sa kasong Kudeta ay may dikta ng Malacanang. Hindi naman sila ay bobo o gago. Sino ba ang justice secretary noon July 2003? Malditas Gutierrez o Datumanong??

  44. Oblak Oblak

    Ka Diego, pagkakatanda ko si Datumanong ang justice secretary noon. Pero maimpluwensya pa rin si Gutierrez noong panahong iyon kaya nga napabalik si ombudsgirl uli sa justice pagkatapos ni Datumanong.

  45. florry florry

    The president has all the power to order a case be reviewed, but not the right to give an opinion concerning the merits of a case. Doing so is like telegraphing a message to authorities concern of his desired outcome, in which case will look like as “lutong macaw”.

    The president should go slow and avoid being seen as having a hand in freeing Trillanes just in case. Just let the wheels of justice turn it’s course, anyway it looks like we now have a more decent, credible and not a prostitute DOJ. And so if Trillanes and Co. has really no case, eventually they will be freed and will be seen as not due to interference from those in power. It should be seen that the case is won through evidence vs evidence.

    On the other hand if it is seen that Trillanes won through connections, the perceptions will be, we are still in the same old way, and not everybody is equal in the eyes of the law. It’s still whom you know and connected.

  46. rose rose

    just wondering…ano kaya ang kinatatakutan ni Sen. Biazon? akala ko matapang siya at siya ay PMAer..sometimes ang matapang ay na tatakot sa kanyang sariling anino..

  47. henry90 henry90

    Madam Florry:

    Tama ka. Kung nakapaghintay nga sila ng 7 years di ba?
    Maano ba namang maghintay pa sila ng dagdag na 3 taon. . 😛

  48. chi chi

    Sen. Antonio Trillanes, prisoner of conscience

    PDI columnist Ramon J. Farolan said: …..

    Last week, Trillanes was granted bail for the Peninsula Hotel takeover. He has already spent more time in prison than some people charged with more serious crimes. He probably has been one of the longest-serving prisoners of conscience in a Philippine jail.

    Allowing him to attend the opening session of the new Congress on July 26 is a good first step in correcting injustice. With three more years to serve in his Senate position, he has much to contribute in terms of his idealism, his love of country and his desire to help improve the armed forces and the general welfare of the people. His record of Senate work even under detention speaks for itself. The votes of 11 million Filipinos should not be easily set aside. Whatever his actions may have been, he has paid for them with the heavy price of imprisonment—for seven years of his life. – more > http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20100718-281892/Sen-Antonio-Trillanes-prisoner-of-conscience

  49. Becky Becky

    Sama ba ang loob mo Henry that P-Noy is batting for the freedom of Sen. Trillanes?

  50. Becky Becky

    I like that RuffyB engages internet users in discussing issues.

    I also voted for RuffyB.Sayang. Aren’t you planning to run in the special election to fill up the slot of P-Noy?

    As to your father’s comment, I did not find it helpful in the cause of finding justice for military officers who dared fight Gloria Arroyo.

  51. henry90 henry90

    Becky:

    Please read between the lines. 🙂

  52. anthony anthony

    @saxnviolins:
    I dont remember Pres Obama having a hand on the Stevens case. It was the Dept of Justice who took a role on this. They studied it and acted on what should be done.Treason is a grievous thing. Dept of Justice Phil style should not take directives from the President. They should study it and if there is a case, go ahead. Are you talking of shortening the terms of seven years, or is it whether Trillanes guilty or not guilty? It is not clear to me but this columnist feels that the verdict long time ago is unfair and should be reviewed and that the incarcerated senator should be set free.
    This is where the law Phil style is corrupted. The President
    gets what he wants as he directed. If the President didnt direct De Lima to “review” the case, will she open it again?

  53. Becky Becky

    Two veteran senators yesterday said President Aquino’s order to review the coup d’etat case of Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV was tantamount to meddling in the judiciary and the Senate.- Inquirer.

    Nagsalita ang mga palakpak boys ni Arroyo. ito talaga si Joker Arroyo at si Angara, tumatandang paurong.

    Ito naman si Amando Doronila ng Inquirer,halata namang si Angara ang kausap.Paano mo sabihing whitewash. mali na nga ang kaso.Dapat nga court marital lang yun.

    Nagi-internet ba itong si Doronila? para maipadala sa kanya ang comments ni SaxnViloins.

  54. Becky Becky

    SaxnViolins. Sorry.

  55. Ellen,

    Thanks for the links. I was going to say bravo for the link to (Ret) MGen Farolan’s article but made an about face when I read this line:

    We join the many friends and admirers of Gen. Renato de Villa in wishing him all the best on his 75th birthday tomorrow. Rene de Villa has served his country well in various capacities. He left public service with his integrity and reputation intact without the slightest hint of scandal or wrongdoing.

    I beg to disagree — former Gen Farolan is a nice man but he errs and he errs big when he says that “He [Gen de Villa, former DND chief] left public service with his integrity and reputation intact…”

    Gen de Villa left serice discreetly but not without blemish to his so-called integrity and reputation. It was Gen de Villa who brought the ultimatum to Erap in Malacanang, pressuring Erap with threats, to give up power, otherwise they (he and his friends) would take it by force. He was directly involved in the violation of the Constitution when he wittingly commandeered Malacanang to install Gloria (for which he was appointed by Gloria as her 1st executive secretary). Gen de Villa, of all people, knew that in doing that he was committing the first step towards a coup d’état!

    So for Farolan to write this nonsense about de Villa as a parting accolade is disappointing.

    As to leaving with his integrity intact, Gen Farolan, you are wrong. The press did not get hold of some of the “juicy side” of some of the stories surrounding Gen de Villa’s tenure as DND chief but let me tell you that de Villa is not at all the blemishless person that you are painting him to be. For starters, ask him who paid for the flying lessons of his daughter?

  56. One more thing, Farolan cited Max Soliven’s piece (Soliven was member of the negotiating panel during the Oakwood standoff) but it is also impotrant to point out that Soliven was not recommedning the release of Trillanes. He was cirticising government’s absence of word of honour: govt agreed through Gen Cimatu that in exchange for Trillanes and company’s surrender, they would be charged under Artiles of War (Court Martial).

    Btw, I concur with Ka Enchong (N°44).

    While I deplore former Sen Biazon’s (now Rep Biazon) stand, i.e., non-support, for Ping Lacson or for Trillanes, I believe he is entitled to his own opinion. He is a legislator as Ruffy B.

    Trillanes will be freed, I’m sure of that. This presidential directive is as good as a licencse to walk free. However, I’d like to know if Trillanes is set free to finally legislate, does promises not do a repeat of what they did in Oakwood and that if ever he has anything against a duly elected leader in govt, he will do it in the most democratic way possible without threat of violence, eg., to topple govt or entice other officers to commit coup d’etat.

  57. Correction: He is a legislator as Ruffy B says and should feel concerned when it comes to questions of executive action.

  58. ruffyb ruffyb

    MPRivera said:

    “Mr. Ruffy B.,

    Although I understand your position being a son, I think it is better for your father not to make comments regarding the case of Sen Trillanes so as not to be misinterpreted. He should focus all his energy in his new role as representative of your district which he inherited from you.”

    My reply:

    Thank you for understanding. Rep. Pong Biazon has every right to comment about issues concerning government because he is a legislator. We also recognize the possibility and right of people to misinterpret his statements. But that also includes his right to clarify those misinterpretations. I shudder at the thought of FIlipinos thinking that legislators are better off shutting their mouths. IF so, then we should have elected more Lito Lapids into the Senate and the House.

    As a member of the House, Rep. Biazon should not just limit himself to concerns of his district. The HOuse of Representatives, while representing districts all over the country is not a purely parochial institution. Being the body tasked the initiate the General Appropriations Act, Impeachment Proceedings against certain national officials and other functions concerning national government, it is very clear that the House of Representatives has a say in how national government functions. Therefore, members of the House should not limit themselves to parochial concerns.

    That was the very frustration I had when I was in the HOuse for three terms. COngressmen were so parochial in their perspective even if we tackled issues that were national in nature. That is one aspect that led to the HOuse being submissive to the President, especially when she controlled the pork barrel. It loses its independence because as long as their districts are “taken care of”, then they turn their heads away from issues of national concern.

    Next, I would like to take exception from the term you used pertaining to Rep. Pong Biazon’s occupancy of the seat of the Lone District of Muntinlupa. He did not “inherit” the position from me. The people of Muntinlupa elected him into that office in the exercise of their right of suffrage, free will and choice, as guaranteed by the Constitution. Let us not rob the people of their power by saying that elected positions are inherited. IF that were the case, then I should have “inherited”a seat in the Senate.

    MPRivera said:

    “You cannot blame us commenters here if we react this way because it seemed your father did nothing to stop gloria from harassing the detained officers and now that leadership has changed in the person of the legally elected President Noynoy Aquino, he (Gen Biazon) wants the president not to meddle in the reopening of the case or whatever.”

    My reply:

    I respectfully beg to disagree that he did nothing. I suggest you do some backreading and research to find out what he did and said during those times in defense and in favor of Sen. Trillanes. Your statement is totally baseless. Just try it in Google, it’s not hard to do.”

    MPRivera said:

    “Being a former CSAFP and senior to the those appointed by the never elected president, Gen Pong can use his clout and influence to have the incarcerated officers undergo fair trial and receive gentlemen’s treatment not like they were subjected to harassment and solitary confinement when they are not yet convicted and still can wear their respective ranks in their uniforms.”

    My reply:

    Once again, I beg to disagree. Being a FORMER CSAFP and senior to any active AFP officer does not give him the power to “influence” those in charge of Sen. Trillanes’ case. Directly interfering by using his “clout” and “influence” is against the principle that he himself is fighting for. In fact, those who claim to be advocating change and reform point to the use of influence and clout as the scourge of our institutions. Many have cried out against palakasan and bata-bata system and call for change. ANd yet you are saying that Rep. Biazon, as Senator, Former CSAFP and senior to those who incarcerated Sen. Trillanes should have used influence? Sorry, but Pong BIazon had always been for institutional processes, not influence peddling.

    Please remember that there are clearly delineated divisions of authority and power in government. A legislator’s main job is policy making, not implementation. If he used his “influence” as a high official to make things happen as he wanted, then he would have crossed those lines of delineation.

    You say that you were with him when he was still in active duty. The you should know that if there was one thing he totally abhorred was the interference into the AFP by politicians. Specially those concerning promotions, assignments and decisions made by AFP officers. His own confirmation as AFP CHief of Staff was put on jeopardy when politicians involved in illegal logging used their “influence” on him in trying to reassign another officer who was doing a faithful and effective anti-illegal logging campaign. They threatened to block his confirmation if he did not transfer that officer. BUt believing that he was in the right and that the interference was not legally and morally correct, he stood his ground and refused, at the risk of being bypassed. They eventually confirmed him, anyway, without him budging a centimeter.

    Ever since, he has been advising military officers never to give in to pressure and influence from politicians, especially when he himself became a politician.

    But as I pointed out earlier, he did what he can within his authority and power as a legislator to favor or help the incarcerated soldiers. Again, I invite you to look into it.

    MPRivera said:

    “Please bear in mind that as taxpayers, it is our right to be faithfully served by those in the government particularly the lawmakers we elected to represent us in the House by crafting laws not to be enjoyed only by the moneyed and influential but also ordinary Filipinos.”

    My reply:

    It is precisely that which Rep. Biazon is doing. A review of his performance as a legislator will prove that.

    MPRivera said:

    “It is from our taxes where they draw their salaries and the pork barrel plus other perks and what we only ask is genuine service not too much politicizing like what we observed during the term of the president who never was. You were there, and you have seen with your own two eyes how the administration congressmen blocked every impeachment file against the glued woman in malakanyang in exchange of handsome cash. Did you try lifting your fingers? I did not see it.”

    My Reply:

    Unless you personally know me and have seen the work that I do in the performance of my duty, you have no basis of saying that I was not able to give genuine service. The fact that I was elected three times by my constituents with very comfortable margins inspite of being with the opposition, it gives me confidence that my constituents recognized the service I gave them. Even if projects that I had in my district were affected by non-release of my congressional funds, my constituents acknowledged that I did not fail to represent them.

    I do not have to answer your question if I lifted any of my fingers to go against the former president because the records and my constituents already know the answer to that.

    What I have learned from my father is to always stand up for what is right and what I believe in. I took those lessons to heart because I saw him live by what he said. One thing he kept on badgering on me is to never put political considerations over the nation’s interest.

    This is why I reacted to Ellen’s article. Because I felt that the direction her article was leading to was totally off the mark. I can accept, without agreeing with, the view that what Rep. Pong Biazon said was not in favor of Sen. Trillanes’ case, but to say that it was a political move in relation to 2013 is something that I cannot let pass. People who personally know Pong Biazon well know that he is the least political politician around.

    MPRivera said:

    “For your info, Mr. Ruffy B, kahit hindi ako nakaboto dito sa Riyadh being registered in Jeddah, I circulated text messages na kasama ang pangalan mo sa senatorial line up. Pamilya ko, mga kamag-anak, kaibigan at mga kakilala ay ipinangampanya kita believing kailangan ang mga katulad mo sa senado.

    Nakakatuwa naman, ang mga nanalong ibinoto ng mga nauutong botante ay ‘yung mga artistang halos puro porma lang ang ginagawa kapag may sesyon.

    Dapat, isa ka sa mga senador ngayon subalit hindi sapat ang boto na aming nakalap para sa iyong panalo. Sayang!”

    Thank you very much for your help! I really appreciate it.

    Yes, people voted for the “artistang halos puro porma lang ang ginagawa kapag may sesyon.” BUt at least he’s doing something that you’d rather see…keep his mouth shut and just let things happen as they do.

    Cheers!

  59. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Anthony:

    Agreed, there was no directive from Obama. But the act of the agent is the act of the principal. So all of Holder’s acts are attributable to Obama.

    Think of the principle, not the personality. Was the directive of Noy founded on sound logic or not? Is hotel among the enumerated buildings or not? Is criminal law strictly construed against the State or not?

    Is justice less served if the initiative came from Noy instead of De Lima? Had De Lima been motivated by some question from a freshman law student in a symposium, would the review be less justified?

    So whether De Lima was moved sua sponte (spontaneously), by directive of the President, or by a question from some tambay sa kanto, the principle is still the same – justice requires that the case be reviewed. That is because it is all too glaring that the coup charge was trumped up to deny Trillanes bail.

    The closest and most tenable charge would have been sedition, the penalty of which is only prision mayor (six to twelve years). Considering that the alleged crime was only an attempted crime, the penalty would be two degrees lower, or arresto mayor (one month to six months). If it is considered a frustrated offense, then the penalty would be one degree lower or prision correccional (six months to six years). Trillanes has been in prision for seven years, which is more than the maximum imposable penalty.

    It is clear, that the “souped up” charge worked a prejudice on Trillanes. So the case should be dismissed.

    There will be no interference on the judiciary as the other camp claims, because a motion will be filed, the grant of which, is discretionary on the part of the court, like the case of US v. Valencia, and US v. Barredo.

  60. I personally believe that Trillanes has earned his freedom thanks to the 11 million voters who elected him senator and after 7 years of languishing in jail without proper trial , I think it’s only right government reviewed his case seriously with a view to either dropping the case or pursuing it (civil or military).

    That said, I have not forgotten that when it came to the crunch, he chose to support Sen Villar for the presidency, the eipitome of greed and symbol of dishonesty. Hence, I believe that we all should warn Trillanes that while he has the support of the people at Ellenville, he must understand that he is expected not to fail them lest he wastes the extremely generous goodwill he has been enjoying.

  61. 4. Palace: statement on Trillanes not meddling

    I believe Aquino, as commander in chief, was right to direct the judiciary to review Trillanes’ case. Aquino should have perhaps worded his statement differently (although the intention would’ve been the same, i.e., free him). It would have caused less ruckus if he had said, “Given that the accused has been languishing in jail for 7 years without proper trial, it’s time to review his case. Either the case is pursued or dropped but justice musst act accordingly.” (Or something of the sort!)

  62. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Let me be uncharitable for a moment, and assume that the President was actually motivated to make the statement about Trillanes because he wants to help Pangilinan land the Senate Presidency.

    Am I now justified to support the denial of a man’s freedom just to disbenefit Pangilinan? People are insinuating that the President’s comments may be politically motivated. But isn’t the resistance to the President’s directive any less politically motivated?

    Assuming both are politically motivated – the directive and the resistance, which one is more consonant with the desire to do justice?

  63. TYB, how the Magdalo got to support Villar last election has been discussed extensively in this blog.

    In summary: here it is. In the beginning many of the officers, including trillanes, were inclined to support Aquino. They sent word to the LP. They were spurned.

    They told their members about it and since they were rejected by the LP, the Villar supports among them won. Sila kasi, if its the decision of the majority, the group adopts it.

    Later on, the other faction of Nonoy learned about the “mishandling” and went to Trillanes but it was too late. They had given their word to Villar.

    But it was clear that that support for Villar was only for 2010 elections.

  64. Matina, re #25. I think you should clarify with Banayo the quote that you cited:Isa pa, ganoon pa kaya idealistic si Trillanes, gayong tinuran niya na ‘kalakaran’ lang ang mga questionable dealings of Villar with the government?

    Trillanes talked to him about it and he said he will clarify.I don’t remember reading his clarification but I know that quote was misused.

    That was the heat of the campaign and Banayo’s focus, being part of the Noynoy campaign, was to make Noynoy win, regardless of whether truth was twisted and innocent people were made to look bad.

  65. Sax,

    If you asked me, I would say the directive is more consonant with the desire to do or seek justice (as my comment n° 63 outlined. And I assure you that I’m not even a great fan of Trillanes.) I believe that 7 years in jail with no trial being conclusive is justice denied. Frankly, it was far from my mind that Aquino’s action might have been motivated by politics.

    If Aquino deems it right to direct judiciary to review Trillanes’ case, he must also direct the judiciary, the military and all agencies concerned to exert every effort to find and produce the body of Burgos and other missing missing political activists.

  66. Ellen,

    But it was clear that that support for Villar was only for 2010 elections.

    I understand but the fact speaks for itself. While it may be true that the Magdalo party voted for adopting Villar as their party’s standard bearer, it doesn’t alter the fact that he supported Villar.

    Just the same, it’s done. It’s past and that’s fine. What’s done cannot be undone. Time for him to know that while goodwill is given generously it comes with a caveat.

  67. zenytj zenytj

    salamat sa diyos may pag asang makalaya si sen.sonny trillanes,kasi kaylangan natin siya,his a hero,may pagmamahal sa ating bayan at paninindigan,kaylangan siya ng ating bayan

  68. zenytj zenytj

    kay saffy b. siyenpre anak siya ipagtangol niya tatay niya,peru pagnakita niya na mali na ang ginagawa tatay niya syempre dapat pigilan niya kasi pati siya madadamay sa ginagawa ng tatay niya.bilang ofw dito sa hongkong binoto kita kasama ng aking gma kaibigan ko na ofws dahilmadalas mabasa ko sa news hindi ka pabor sa mga ginagawa ni gma,sana ipagpatuloy mong gumawa ng mabuti para sa ating bayan at kasama mo kami saiyong maganandang pangarap sa ating bayan.

  69. zenytj zenytj

    thank you very much maam ellen im back for the help of my ward amanda im here again,thank you again in god bless you.

  70. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Re: Two veteran senators yesterday said President Aquino’s order to review the coup d’etat case of Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV was tantamount to meddling in the judiciary and the Senate.- Inquirer.

    Meddling??? Bakit noon panahon ni Gloria Arroyo, tahimik sila habang binababoy niya ang ating Saligang Batas. Itong dalawang kolokoy ay ulyanin na.

  71. MPRivera MPRivera

    Ka Diego,

    I shared same sentimos with you.

    Joking Diapherman Arroyo is becoming ewan on why and bakit hindi niya sinabihan si goyang na huwag panghimasukan ang kaso and just leave the prosecution do their job? Listing yawa man gid, ah. The complainant was the president she never wasrepresented daw by the peoples of the the La Tundan Republic. The case was tried by the itinurong judge with evidences basing on the nightmares of the hogband and askal wife. The prosecutors were like Juan d’ Tamad lying under di banana two waiting for the hinog na saging to falling down because it is eaten by the bayakan. The DOJ sickritary, Sir Raulo Gagongonzales issued unsolicited statements prejudging the cases something like forewarning the judge not to rule against the will of Lola Dapangdedenglaylayna. Patay ang pag-asa (kaya pala laging palpak ang weather forecasts) ng mga incarcerated officers.

    ginawa ba itong si Joking Arroyo na isang kilala daw na legal fairy upang huwag makisawsaw ang mga maligno sa malakanyang? Now he is also singing differently and dancing the steps of the tinikling to the tune of la bamba? Oh, my gulay!

  72. MPRivera MPRivera

    May ginawa ba itong si Joking Arroyo na isang kilala daw na legal fairy upang huwag makisawsaw ang mga maligno sa malakanyang? Now he is also singing differently and dancing the steps of the tinikling to the tune of la bamba? Oh, my gulay!

  73. MPRivera MPRivera

    Mr. Ruffy B.,

    Sorry, but your kliometric responses are far from my comments. It was like drawing a circle to hide the sides of a square.

  74. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Panghihimasok daw sa hukuman sabi ni Gringoyang.

    Hindi ba’t ikaw ang beneficiary ng panghihimasok? Wasn’t there a motion for reinvestigation granted by RaulGon? And didn’t he order that a motion be filed in court excluding you?

    Ano kaya’t mag-second reinvestigation si De Lima, and reinclude you, since you were the alleged mastermind? Then while awaiting any motion by Trillanes, you accompany him in prison, being denied bail like him?

    Remember that you were not arraigned, so the dismissal as far as you are concerned is without prejudice.

    What if the court rules that the proper charge should have been sedition, and since the imposable penalty is less than the time Trillanes has been in prison? Laya siya. How about you? You were never incarcerated, so puwede ka pang patawan ng six years.

    What if Trillanes returns the favor, and gives you a dose of your own medicine? He gives evidence, saying yes, siya nga ang mastermind, because we used to look up to him. We did all that blood compact business with him?

    That means you will spend six years in prison, in your old age. Better to shut up.

  75. rose rose

    Sax: puede ba siyang isama sa investigation sa Truth Commission? sana…

  76. rose rose

    corr: isama to be invewtigated not to be a member…

  77. chi chi

    Ano kaya’t mag-second reinvestigation si De Lima, and reinclude you, since you were the alleged mastermind? Then while awaiting any motion by Trillanes, you accompany him in prison, being denied bail like him?- atty sax

    Bwahahaha!!! Patay sin Gringoyang!
    Atty, galing…Gringyoyang!

  78. chi chi

    p’rengMags, pinabibilib mo ako ng husto sa iyong repartee skills. hehehe!

  79. chi chi

    atty sax, hindi ko napigil ang sarili ko na i-import ko sa FB kay Ding Gagelonia ang iyong poste #74, fit na fit kasi dun sa “who’s gringo, anyway”. Properly attributed ko naman sa ‘yo. 🙂

    Gotta go sa bundok for a week para hindi mo ako mahabol. Ciao,ciao! Hehehe.

  80. MPRivera MPRivera

    Atitiway Sax,

    Be gentol, aba. Mamaya mo ay mag-disapir na naman ‘yan. Alalahanin mo, nang masukol si Poging Tisoy ay napilayan dahil sa pagtalon sa mataas na bintana sa Corinthian Garden. Hala ka, kasalanan mo kapag mas grabe ang mangyari sa susunod.

  81. sychitpin sychitpin

    #24 SNV: “Ang Pangulo ay pinuno ng Secretary of Justice. Nararapat lang na magbigay ng utos ang Pangulo, kung sa tingin niya ay di makatarungan ang pag-uusig sa isang tao.”

    i concur with SNV, in addition, a senator duly elected by millions of Filipinos should be in senate performing his duties

  82. Oblak Oblak

    Hindi naman kasi lahat ng Pinoy alam kung ano yung separation of powers, pagkakaiba ng coup d’etat at sedition o rebellion at hindi naman sila dagliang ma educate sa finer points of the laws na applicable sa kaso ni Trillanes. Pero naiintindihan nila yung pakialamanan at paghihimasok.

    Tutal nagsabi na si Noynoy ng opinion nya at nagbigay na rin ng opinion si De Lima, iwasan na lang na magkaroon ng isyu na pinapaboran ni Aquino si Trillanes. I reiterate yung sinabi ko noon at dito sa thread na ito na hayaan na lang na ang korte ang magdesisyon. Dalawa lang naman ang pwedeng mangyari sa desisyon ng korte:

    1. Ma acquit si Trillanes. kung ito ang mangyari, tapos na ang lahat ng usapin at vindicated na sya.

    2. Ma convinct si Trillanes. Kung ito ang mangyari, pwede naman syang bigyan ng executive clemency o pardon ni Noynoy.

    Either way, lalaya at lalaya din si Trillanes.

  83. MPRivera MPRivera

    Pareng Oblak,

    Walang pasak, hane? Lahat, lusot!

    Hindi ka pa naman lasing niyan, ha?

  84. Oblak Oblak

    Huwag maingay MagnumPR, sumsimple lang ako ng tungga sa CR.

  85. ruffyb ruffyb

    MPRivera said:

    “Mr. Ruffy B.,

    Sorry, but your kliometric responses are far from my comments. It was like drawing a circle to hide the sides of a square.”

    A fine excuse to avoid finding out if one has been rebutted.

  86. parasabayan parasabayan

    I personally think that the old Biazon did not exert a lot to help Trillianes and the Tanay Boys. Dedma lang siya. Sanan naman, he should have extended more help to them. Kung sa bagay, naging Chief of Staff siya dati but the least he could have done was to push for the investigation of why the “Oakwood” mutiny was ever hatched in the first place. Di ba ang sabi ng mga Magdalo ay sobra and corruption amongst the generals. Totoo naman ito. Bakit wala ka man lang narinig kay Biazon to look into these. Yung issue ng mga baril at amyonisyon na ibinebenta sa mga politicians. Bakit wala man lang initiative si Biazon to have the senate investigate these. The Ampatuan massacre had to happen bago pa papansinin and mga hinaing nila Trillianes. Yung Mayuga report ni wala man lang nagpumilit na ipalabas ito. Tahimik lahat ang mga military legislators. Kaya sorry Ruffy kung kahit na anong depensa mo sa tatay mo, kulang sa tingin namin ang nagawa niya para sa mga nakakulong na rebeldend sundalo katulad ng mga Magdalo at ng mga Tanay Boys.

    Dito ako nagagalit pati kay Honasan. Kahit na anong pilit niyang itago ang rolyo niya sa Oakwood, nandiyan pa rin ang duda na siya ang isa sa mga nagbuyo sa Magdalo. Sa halip na tulungan niya ang mga Magdalo, dumistansiya siya sa kanila. I can not blame the Magdalos kung hindi nila gusto si Honasan, dahil iniwan sila lalo na noong kailangan nila ng tulong. Si Trillanes lang talaga ang nanindigan hanggang sa huli. Kahit na nakapiit siya, nandun pa rin fighting spirit niya.

    Lahat na ng klaseng imbestigasyon eh ginagawa sa senado. Bakit wala man lang pumansin sa mga hinaing ng mga nakakulong na sundalo? Sino ang dapat magumpisa ng mga imbestigasyon ng mga hinaing ng mga sundalo? Si Lapid o si Revilla? Eh mga pangartistang issue lang ang alam nila. Di ba nga at nag # 1 si Bong Revilla dahil sa sex scandal ni Halili?

    Sino pa ba ang aasahan ng mga sundalo para magtanggol sa kanila? Di ba yung mga kabaro nila? This, Ruffy ,did not happen under your dad’s watch. Kaya ngayon, kay Trillianes at sa mga Tanay Boys eh wala naman siyang suporta sa ipinaglalaban nila, he then should just shut up and not say anything now that Pnoy is looking into Sonny’s case. Tumahimik na lang siya katulad ng panananahimik niya habang si midget ay nakaupo sa trono.

  87. parasabayan parasabayan

    The same is true for Honasan. Dapat manahimik din siya. Let Pnoy set these men free.

    In fairness, I heard Pnoy talk about this injustice with Trillianes way before he became president. Hindi lang ngayon na kailangan nila ng boto sa senado para kay “noted”.

  88. Statement of Sen. Trillanes:

    I am very grateful for the public pronouncements of Pres. Aquino as regards our case. It was truly a display of magnanimity on his part. Still, for now, it will be the court who will decide whether or not I would be able to serve our country once again.

  89. MPRivera MPRivera

    A fine excuse to avoid finding out if one has been rebutted. – ruffyb

    Mr. Ruffy B.,

    Please try to read back if your answers fit my comments.

    Joining right and left hands can steady whatever you want to hold, whatever you want to catch. But still the same, left is left and right is right. They are far diffrent from each other.

    And as to the impeachment of the president who never was, these were then yor very words:

    “At this point, I’m a bit wary of any impeachment complaint especially with elections coming. The timing and the motives may be political. I don’t want to be used in any political maneuvering,” he said.

    “The action is meant to achieve personal political gain rather than a sincere desire to get social justice or to right a wrong. For me, an impeachment complaint should only be filed if it has a fighting chance of winning because I think a failed complaint only serves the interest of the accused and the one filing, especially if the real objective is just to gain publicity,” Biazon added.

    Source: 80 votes for impeach case vs GMA a ‘work in progress’
    By Delon Porcalla (The Philippine Star) Updated October 18, 2008)

    Giving up any battle without a fight is not a justification of a wise judgment. There are many ways to strengthen any case if any party really determined to pursue it wishes to. It’s either you are not really prepared or you are with the one to be impeached, secretly. That’s that plain and simple.

    You were all elected by your respective constituents and party affiliation should end once you enter the House and it is the welfare of the whole nation that you should first look after and NOT to be to the rescue of a never elected president who boasted never ending accomplishments only traceable in papers being far from reality as evidenced by the wide spread poverty all over the country. What you have in Congress is only a numbers game. Who were with whom and who were not with. Most of you let yourselves fell into the trap of gloria whose smile was always ear to ear because of her victorious manipulation using the pork barrel as a bait.

    Only a few dared to stand their ground. Only a few refused to ride with gloria’s greedy purpose. Only a few identified themselves with their constituents who elected them and whom they vowed to serve. Only a few chose to stand for what is just, for what is right.

    If you would say you were one of this few – I doubt it.

  90. MPRivera MPRivera

    It is clear – Noynoy wants DOJ to REVIEW the case of Sen Trillanes.

    Meron ba’ng sinabing i-ABSUWELTO si Sonny Trillanes? Wala naman, ah?

    Ang mga kumokontra ay napapraning la’ang. Para silang mga sadistang tuwang tuwang makakita ng kapwa taong naghihirap at nagdurusa.

    Kung ganito nang ganito ang mangyayari, IISA lang ang masayang masayang parang demonyo ang pagtawa – si gloria!

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