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Sotto and Oreta

Last Tuesday, Mandirigma/Fearless Warrior posted the information that former Senators Tito Sotto and Tessie Oreta have left LDP President Edgardo Angara and have joined Eduardo “Danding” Cojuangco’s Nationalist People’s Coalition.

Monday night I was talking with Oreta and she was telling me her disappointment about being left out in the list of of possible senatorial candidates of the opposition in favor of her nephew, Noynoy Aquino. She was critical of the selection process of UNO.

She and Sotto had long severed political ties with Angara. She had always been loyal to Estrada. There was never any mention of her talks with Danding Cojuangco.

That’s why I told Mandirigma/Fearless Warrior that it’s not true Sotto and Oreta are joining NPC.

Today, Sotto and Oreta took their oath with NPC.

I talked with her again and she confirmed she and Sotto have joined NPC because they have to belong to a party since they are no longer with LDP. She said she now expects the party to push for her inclusion in the senatorial slate.

I took it to mean it was the opposition senatorial slate because NPC has a policy of allowing their members freedom of choice. Chiz Escudero is with NPC and he is assured of a slot in UNO.

I was so surprised to watch Lynda Jumilla’s report in ABS-CBN’s TV Patrol that the two are being considered in the administration ticket. Indeed, because Cojuangco is Arroyo’s ally.

Is this leveraging?

I tried to call her back but she is not available. Same thing with Sotto.

Published inElection 2007

212 Comments

  1. fearlesswarrior fearlesswarrior

    With the above new information that you posted Ka Ellen, I think I deserve an apology from you. Since you posted and mentioned my name on this thread, I would like you to admit that sometimes you tend to be judgmental like the rest. Deleting this and covering up your skin to protect your profession as a journalist which you claim you’ve been into for a long time don’t help.

  2. Mrivera Mrivera

    fearless,

    halimbawang umatras ka, kimkimin ang anumang nasa kalooban mo, sino ang mahihirapan? kaibigan, ang pagtuunan mo ng pansin at pagbuhusan ng lahat ng iyong saloobin ay ang ipinaglalaban natin.

    anuman ang maging hakbangin mo, mauunawaan ka namin.

  3. norpil norpil

    i did not comment on your post fw and not even ellen’s since i thought truth will come out regardless. ellen in a way corrected her mistake with this and i hope sincerely that we should not dwell so much on the mistakes of others.regardless you already earned my respect even before this.

  4. Thank you, Fearless Warrior and Ellen for being positive and constructive and for not dwelling on the negative consequence this conflict might come to. We need you all in our crusade against the obnoxious liar, cheat, and thief.

  5. chi chi

    FW/M, are you not happy that Ellen did a lot of confirming with Oreta about the “news” you read first? She was concern about that news knowing that under this fake presidency, misinformation gets ahead of everything. She’s a journalist, and it’s her job to confirm “news”. E kung makoryente tayong lahat dito sa blog? We can’t afford that. So, let it go.

    A TRUE fearless warrior can TRANSCEND disappointments into gold!

  6. chi chi

    Back to Sotto and Oreta. If, eventually, they will join Glueria’s ticket, it won’t bother me a bit. There are many more deserving candidates just waiting for inclusion at UNO’s list. Mabuti na ang nagkakabistuhan bago mag-eleksyon!

  7. isabel isabel

    tama, manay chi. hayaan na lang natin yang si sotto at oreta kung saan sila masaya. sabi nga, in politics there are no permanent friends nor enemies but only permanent interests. basta sa akin, anything or anybody na may bahid ni arroyo, malakas na booooo ang aabutin.

  8. chi chi

    Tumpak, Isabel. Why would we want them in the senate if they’re playing footsie-footsie with Glue! Sabi mo nga, anumang may bahid Arroyo ay booooo!

  9. vic vic

    I am always an advocate of a strong party system of government where individuals joined in as members or nominees for candidates in accordance to each ideologies, beliefs, programs of governance, principles or even to the extremes, one’s biases and prejudices.

    Like the case of Sotto and Oreta, being known to be opposition personalities, but having dropped or have no room in the line up for them should have campaign for their fellow members, but instead jumped for the opportunity to run themselves. In a strong party system this scenario should not have happened, cuz the party interest is above that of personalities. And of course the other parties would prefer to endorse their own members and win the contest based on their programs and promises during the campaign and how they are going to go about implementing them. Not just empty promises and ‘ no expense spared’ as per Secretary Ermita style and of course a handsome return on investment for winners…

  10. mike_dlc mike_dlc

    Tsk tsk.. it just shows what kind of stuff they are made of. I was wondering what they are going to say during their campaign rally??? Hmmmmm…. “Kaya po kami nandirito kasama ang ating mahal na Pangulo ay……

    1. ….para tayong mga Pilipino ay magsama-sama na at magkaisa para sa ikauunlad ng ating bayan”

    2. ….dahil hindi kami sinama sa ticket ng UNO nila Erap at Binay”

    3. ….dahil hindi kami gwapo’t maganda sa paningin ng mga taga UNO”

    4. ….?????

    Sheeessshhhh, a bunch of idiots!

  11. Chabeli Chabeli

    The first wave of JOKES in this campaign: TATAD, SOTTO & ORETA. Want TRAPOS in the Senate ? Vote T S O ! Hahahahahahahahahah !

    Sotto, just like in the campaign of FPJ, wanted to lord it over in the Opposition. He, like Oreta & Tatad, refused to accept that most people do not want an Opposition that will be composed of recycled TRAPOS. UNO listened to the voice of the people. Those who refused to listen, went to their corner, cried, & went to their Dirty Mama, GLORIA ! How “winnable” the Gloria ticket will be, no ?

  12. chi chi

    Chabeli,

    “Dirty Mama, Glueria”! Let’s use this here!

  13. Chabeli Chabeli

    UNO did the right thing to EXclude Tatad, Sotto, Oreta, & Honasan. UNO threw out their BASURAS. Why all the sour graping coming from Tatad, Sotto & Oreta ? UNO just recycled their trash, & placed them where they belong – to Gloria !

  14. chi chi

    OK, simula kay “Dirty Mama, Glueria” hanggang kina Sotto, Oreta, at iba pa na walang mga delicadesa, basahin ninyo ito at ng magkaroon naman kayo ng kaunting kahihiyan!
    ****

    JERUSALEM – Israeli President Moshe Katsav, facing charges of rape and abuse of power, asked parliament Wednesday to temporarily remove him from office in an effort to blunt growing calls for his resignation.

    http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=866#comments

  15. chi chi

    Oopss mali ang link…

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070124/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_president

  16. fearlesswarrior fearlesswarrior

    chi Says:

    January 24th, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    FW/M, are you not happy that Ellen did a lot of confirming with Oreta about the “news” you read first? She was concern about that news knowing that under this fake presidency, misinformation gets ahead of everything. She’s a journalist, and it’s her job to confirm “news”. E kung makoryente tayong lahat dito sa blog? We can’t afford that. So, let it go.

    A TRUE fearless warrior can TRANSCEND disappointments into gold!

    *Thanks Kabayang Chi.

  17. fearlesswarrior fearlesswarrior

    A TRUE fearless warrior can TRANSCEND disappointments into gold!

    By the way, I like the above statement, Ka Chi. Pero sa tutoo lang, mahirap pakisamahan ang ilan dito. Matitigas masyado. I may be forced to change my name again to fearfulwarrior. I’m not fearfull lalo na baka ma-delete na naman ang harmless na sagot ko. I presume Ka Ellen is still asleep. Kung hindi baka hindi niyo mabasa itong mga post ko.

  18. fearlesswarrior fearlesswarrior

    Sorry it should say I’m now fearful (hindi not). I mentioned earlier (deleted) that I do have access to the opposition. I’m in constant touch with some personalities. I try to share whatever info I have with this group dahil napamahal na din itong grupo sa akin. Sa kabila ng maganda kong hangarin ay napagbintangan pa akong nagkakalat ng false information at intriga. Worse, garbage daw. How can you just let such a comment go?

  19. For all I know, Danding is only concerned about his business, and needs to be with the administration for his own protection. He’s a friend of Erap, too, for their friendship with Macoy. That is a fact that you, guys, seem to overlook.

    Besides, he is ninong to Greggy Araneta, who is a cousin of the Fatso. It is not loyalty at all to the Bansot that this man is patronizing the crooks in the government. He is patronizing himself!

    As for Sotto and Oreta, I thought they should have had more sense not to allow themselves to be used by the Bansot even when they join the NPC because of their friendship with Danding. Mahirap ang palipat-lipat ng partido sa totoo lang. Why can they not form their own party if they are that desperate to run and think that they can win without attaching themselves to someone with money. Kung talagang matalino at malinis sila, ipakita nila.

    At saka, bakit si Oreta magagalit sa sarili niyang pamangkin? Awayan sa pamilya nila dinadala ba nila hanggang sa politika nila! If I were a Philippine voter, this factor alone will be enough for me to consider not casting any vote for her!!!

    PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  20. Vic: “Like the case of Sotto and Oreta, being known to be opposition personalities, but having dropped or have no room in the line up for them should have campaign for their fellow members…”

    ******
    Said by someone from a more progressive country no doubt! Same here, Vic, where a candidate can even be sponsored by all existing parties to win if he is deserving! Time for Filipino politicians to have more decency in themselves para matoto na rin ang mga boboto sa kanila hindi iyong bumoboto sa parehong demonyo at makikipagsapalaran kung sino ang lesser evil! Susmaryosep! Hindi na natoto!

  21. I bet you, Chi, Chabeli, that there is wisdom in the exclusion of Sotto, Oreta and Tatad from the Opposition. All these talks about their joining the administration ticket should not bother anyone. Basta walang balimbing at trapo sa UNO, OK! For Congress, those of you voting overseas, choose the right partylists: Akbayan and Bayan Muna.

    SAKIT NA PILIPINAS, SI TRILLANES ANG LUNAS!!!

    PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  22. chi chi

    Very catchy Yuko, “SAKIT SA PILIPINAS, SI TRILLANES ANG LUNAS!”

  23. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Damn, Fearlesswarrior, Mandirigma or whoever you are, why don’t you just stop it?

    We’ve had enough of your disruptions. And what a way to pick a fight, with women! It’s always trouble when you’re around. You do not even respect the host.

    Man, pakiusap lang, lalaki sa lalaki, pwede mo namang i-ignore yung ayaw mong comment, you do not even need to provoke Anna and tail her posts, so why not just ignore her. Ellen has told you that many times before. And you ignored her. Can’t blame Ellen if she lost her cool. Look, now you’re up against Ellen, too.

    You are intelligent and articulate. Why don’t you use those qualities more positively. All the while I thought you were very much different from Npongco, the first ever ellenblogger jettisoned out to iggy-dom. Picking up fights with women, most especially with the host, doesn’t appear warrior-like at all. Not even masculine. That did npongco in. I won’t be surprised if you’re next.

    But I know Ellen won’t take you (or your avatars) out even if you continue to heap trash at her. But she will if you continue to disrupt the threads and provoke Anna or any other blogger for that matter if only to protect her site.

    Everybody’s had enought of it already, you’ve proven your point Anna has, too. It’s time to quit. You can take your vacation for good as you’ve said many times before. Be like a man and stand by your word. And, yes, thank you for blogging here.

    Sassy Lawyer and Bong Austero are waiting for you.

  24. sleeplessinmontreal sleeplessinmontreal

    Tama po si TonGuE-tWisTeD, tigilan na ang mga patutsadahan dito sa blog ni Ma’m Ellen. Sinabi na niya na kung ayaw natin sa komento ng isa, huwag nating pansinin.

    Hindi rito ang laban at hindi tayo dapat naglalaban. Napapalayo tayo sa isyu. Dapat si Gloria Macapagal Arroyo ang isyu.

  25. pandawan pandawan

    Pumupusisyon na ang lahat ng tao. Pero hindi kailanman sasama sina Sotto at Oreta ke Gloria laban ke Erap. Loyal sila ke Erap at laluna sa alaala ni FPJ.

    At ang mga katulad naming nagtitiwala kina Erap at FPJ ay hinding-hindi matatanggap ang isang isang tiket na kasama si Villar na rumagasa ng impeachment ni Erap sa kongreso, hinding-hindi malilimutan ang mga NOTED ni Kiko, at hindi naniniwalang nanalo talaga si Ralph Recto at kalimutan na natin si Joker.

    Ang pagtitiwalaan ko lang ay ang mga taong kasama ni Erap mula simula hanggang ngayon. No Johnny come latelys, please. If ever there is a third force other than the loyal ones, they will be composed or the people will perceive them as those identified with Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.

    The argument will focus from whom will the third force get their votes, from Erap or Gloria. Ermita says from the former, I say from the latter.

  26. myrna myrna

    TongueT, agree ako sa sinabi mo re Bong Austero and Sassy Lawyer of Manila Standard! 🙂

    Isali mo yung Kapitan na si Bigote na si Emil Jurado na SUPERSIPSIP kay Gloria!

    May naniniwala pa ba sa mga yun?

  27. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    I had been patient and tolerant after realizing what I did to npongco, who went to the extent of “stalking” by tailing your posts, was quite harsh. That, after coming off from a similar situation in PCIJ, had me reining-in my cool.

    But we can’t allow the same thing to happen here – the ranting and carping that achieves nothing but destroys the smooth flow of ideas. He has experienced firsthand how Anna can argue without letup with a similarly determined (and similarly witty) Jorge Bocobo or the many others, like you, yet the debate never gets diverted to the ad hominem personal lane.

    He was aking for it, Anna gave it to him. Now, he hits hard at Ellen, in similar fashion as npongco, that I can’t take much longer. Not that it’s okay for him to bash Anna but I know she can handle it without anybody’s help (winks at Anna). Ditto for Ellen. I don’t mind if he calls me Prince Valiant as what Npongco or some dude in PCIJ did. I’d even be flattered. It’s just that I find it disgusting to see men trying to bully women.

    No need to thank me, Yuko. I am much as grateful to you, to Ellen, Anna (yes, mandirigma, too!) and to a lot more here for the wealth of knowledge and information (chismis, included ha!) and for keeping this community where we can bitch-slap the Midget with all the contempt directed at her direction.

    And not at each other.

  28. chi chi

    Pandawan,

    May short statements ng binitiwan si Oreta. Nasa link ko sa latest thread “Habang maaga,magkaalaman na”.

  29. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Slip of The Tongue:

    The last staement was adressed to Ystakei.

  30. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Anna, Yuko, and Ellen damsels in distress? Nah. As if they need any guy to save them. Each one alone can beat ten of me til I’m black and blue! Haha.

    Tignan nyo’t nag-react puro babae! Yan ang mga Pinay, mga palaban.

    Unlike The One who needs the whole PSG under Col. PresTuta to protect her. BOOO!
    —-
    My God! Look at my posts: In the first one puro “ignore” in one paragraph. Sa second one, “..bitch-slap the Midget with all the contempt directed at her direction.” Sobrang double-redundant repetitions, again, once more, etc. Kakahiya! Ganyan ako pag galit. Walang porma-porma. Di na nag-eedit. Pasensiya na.

  31. But Tongue,

    Where would good women be if there weren’t real MEN like you in this God-forsaken country?

  32. Spartan Spartan

    Watching TV Patrol World last night, I was not surprised about tessie oreta’s pagbalimbing, pero itong si Tito Vice, maryosep! For him to even entertain the thoughts of running under gloria’s chopsuey line-up, the same gloria na isinusuka niya dahil sa pandaraya kay Panday, just shows his true colors…HUNYANGO! Although on second thought on my part, this move of Tito Sotto is just another strategy to keep your friend close, but keep your enemy closer? Whatever it is, kitang-kita na desperado na ang grupo ni gloria na makadampot ng mga basurang retaso na itinapon ng UNO para isama sa kanilang listahan. Desperate times calls for desperate measures. At nagsasama-sama na ang mga desperado. Si gloria na desperadong makabuo ng panlaban sa UNO, at ang mga tulad ni oreta, sotto, at tatad na desperadong maisingit pa rin ang kanilang mga sarili sa makabagong mukha ng pulitika sa ating bansa.

  33. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    If women don’t marry REAL men, they’d all be presidents!

  34. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Aba, at may humihirit. Nakikisasaw. Natamaan ko kaya? Another avatar? Kilatisin mo muna, bata. Daming agents provocateur. Talagang balak guluhin ang blog.

  35. Yep, I noticed that too!

    Like vampires – they multiply. Last night, Ellen’s blog exceeded the band width. Cvj asked Ellen what her ISP said. Wonder if the blog is not under attack from as you say des agents provocateurs.

    Anyway, am off. Tomorrow is another day… But Gloria will be feasting her guts out in Davos! Tee hee, she might develop diarhea again.

  36. Spartan Spartan

    Manang Yuko, dami na namang langaw at lamok ang nakapasok sa kuwarto na ito, dapat siguro mosquito net at hindi inter-net ang kailangan natin. 😉

    me bigla pang sumulpot na freak dito, and calling as bastards and jackass? Tindi ng amat mo freakout, batak ka pa kung ano mang droga tsinotsongki mo para makapag-rest-in-peace ka.

  37. You bet, Tongue T. I am no damsel in distress. Ako nga ang takbuhan ng mga pilipino in distress sa Japan. Galit lang tayo sa mga Internet Brigaders. You’re actually talking to just one idiot who metamorphosize into various names.

    Sa palagay ko nga kundi Internet Brigader e baka may tupak sa ulo talaga, someone like the criminal I interpreted for in a court in Japan who suffered from multiple personality disorder and was considered a menace after hitting a Japanese woman. Amerikano na may depression at mahilig din ng computer!!! 😛

    Madali naman mabisto ang ungas, kundi ba may sakit e bakit mahilig mag-stalk ng blogger dito?

    Sa totoo lang, nagtataka nga ako kung bakit dapat mabagabag tungkol kay Sotto at Oreta. Sila pa nga ang nagsasabing laos na ang mga iyan!

    But thanks for toeing the line! Ang bastos e. Marami na namang ide-delete si Ellen. She has to, sa totoo lang! Gusto lang talagang mambaboy gaya ng pambababoy ng amo nila sa Pilipinas at mga pilipino!

  38. Spartan:

    Bistado mo rin ha. Iisa lang iyan na nagpalit na naman ng pangalan. Minsan babae pa nga! Bakla yata! Sorry sa mga kaibigan kong bakla na galit kay Burot. Pigyuratib expression lang! Kasi lalaki daw pero kumakaaway ng mga babae! Akala kasi ang dunung-dunong na nila. Mayabang lang naman!

    Hindi makasingit ngayon ang daming basura ikinakalat ng mga ungas dito ngayon!

  39. Spartan Spartan

    The funny thing with this situation, if we’re in the real world these mga butas ng wetpu would be altready black and blue from the beatings they would get from us. Makes me go back to my question to a character who calls him/herself jun in here. What would happen to a cat that would jump inside a kennel full of rottweilers? TT, anna, ystakei, et al…kailangan talaga natin ngayon ang ibayong tibay, the interuption that happened yesterday about this site exceeding it’s bandwidth limit is a rare occurence. It only happens to sites that are either experiencing mega-hits, or serve by a new server.

  40. kitamokitako kitamokitako

    Ano ba itong is Tito Sotto, naging otto-otto na yata. Magsama na sila ni Noted Pangilinan, magtiyo naman sila. Whenever i see his name, and those of the other two of the eat bulaga hosts, i always remember Pepsi Paloma, SLN.

  41. Malay ninyo, baka si pablik pigyur pa nga iyan na nakikisawsaw ang aga-aga! Birahin! Makunsumi siya! 😛

  42. Spartan Spartan

    # freakout Says:
    January 25th, 2007 at 8:37 am
    Mga ulol! Kayo lang ba puwede dito? Spartan, baka ma-Spatan kita sa labas uupakan kita. Tumahimik ka na lang at baka mas lalo akong ma-freak out.

    hehehe, patawa ka? your comments made me think you might just be a 12 year old boy, or girl? hehehe

    konyat lang aabutin mo sa akin. 😛

  43. freakout freakout

    Ako nga si First Gentleman. Sinigawan ko nga si Cayetano sa hearing at hindi nakapalag. Nagmamalinis ang mestisong hilaw na ito. His father also was involved in big trading scam before he died. Anong konyat? Ang alam ko lang Conac dahil iyan ang brand ng inumin ko.

  44. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    From Twisted Dictionary Vol. 8; c. 2007:

    Freakout – (n.) a trying-hard ellenblogger wannabe whose first few comments were stricken off the thread; an avatar of a previously banned blogger re-banned for using obscene language; an adolescent uneducated jerkass crybaby who cannot even throw insults that would hurt a small kid but would be devastated by the same thrown at him

  45. Sabi ko nga sa iyo, Spartan, baka si pablik pigyur iyan na ang aga-aga, hindi na natutulog, na nakikisawsaw sa blog na ito. On the other baka nasa Tate pa kaya parang hindi natutulog! Kunsumihin! Oops, gotta go to work na. May trabaho pa ako!

    Ang hirap sumingit pag nambaboy ang mga alagad ni boba na baboy pa!

  46. Spartan Spartan

    si fearlesswarrior napi-freakout mga kasama. 😉

    actually, joking aside mandrigma/fearlesswarrior muntik mo na ako makuha, ang galing mo na sana, problema nag-apura ka. I really thought you’re in the level of bloggers here like ystakei, anna de brux, schumey, Mrivera, and other fearless commenters, whose aim are the same, to blasts gloria back to the fiery depths she came from. Pero mali ako, all along you’re just wanting self glorification, to say “…sa aking mga kababayan…”, instead of “sa ating mga kababayan”, showed you as a person who wants to be the center of the universe.

  47. Sinabi mo pa Tongue T. Iyong ngang speech ni Burot bakyang-bakya ang dating. May nakikinig pa ba diyan?

    Sabi ng kaibigan ko at the Japanese Diet, when she came her and spoke at the Diet, nagpalakpakan daw ang mga hapon nang sabihin niya, “Japan is aging. It has to be rejuvenated with young Filipino blood!” Nagpalakpakan daw ang mga matatandang hapon, sabay sabi, “Anong sinabi niya?” Ngek! 😛

  48. Hi everyone its safe to come out now the sun has risen.
    freakout:
    “His father also was involved in big trading scam before he died.” what are you saying that because of your thoughts about his dad that its alright for this slouch the Arroyo to steal and transfer it out of the country. I don’t hear you say Arroyo didn’t do that. But if the slouch signs the waiver the public can decide, don’t you think.

  49. Spartan:

    Sabi mo bata? Baka si Pandak iyan na kasing laki ng mga 10-year old dito sa Japan!!! Hahahahahahaha!

  50. Sinabi mo pa, Anna. Kaya nga maraming pakawala ngayon sa Pilipinas, kasi konti na lang ang real he-men!!!

  51. cocoy cocoy

    To all:
    I refrain myself to post my comment in here because the temperature is getting hotter, can we please cool down the thermostat a bit. It’s been my greatest desire to post in this thread too .As you can all see ,there are two things that we all differ in opinion .Religion and politics ,unless we can learn how to compromise we will have an infinite discussion.
    As I can see, we are starting to form a third force.
    In politics there is no permanent allies, those politicians are compared to a wise businessman. They are only looking for there self interest and profits .They don’t invest money if they lost unless ,it is not there capital. Or they are a gambler.
    Now ,we can see transparently what are there motives .Selfish and greed.

  52. apoy apoy

    Hwag niyo nang patulan ang freakout na yan..Bahala na si Maam Ellen para ma-delete siya..Tutal alam naman ni Maam Ellen kung sino yan talaga..

  53. If you all ignore all these freaks of the night instead of giving their comment an answer, then they will tale off into the night on their broom sticks. It’s up to each of us. Anyway thats what I honestly believe.

  54. fearlesswarrior fearlesswarrior

    Ka Cocoy, sasama ka ba sa third force dito? We need a third force to balance out the one-sided event here. But seriously, ang mga kagaya mo at mga iba pa ang bumubuhay ng loob ko sa kabila ng matinding pagsubok.

  55. Spartan Spartan

    wwnl, kapag may nag-mura sa iyo, ano gagawin mo? Would you follow the saying “kapag sinampal ka sa kanang pisngi, ibigay mo pa ang kaliwa”? I usually don’t answer comments posted here that are south of my northern direction, but calling us (you included) jackass or stupid by an individual whose real position in life is unknown to all of us, I think that’s the line I would always cross. And if you think about it, yes she/he or whoever butas ng wetpu they all are, are succeeding because like right now, you and me is having this kind of discussion. If you want to give the other cheek, it’s okey with me, I would respect your action, hope if I give my fist to his/her sorry mouth, you would respect it too. Peace be with you all. 😉

  56. parasabayan parasabayan

    Balimbingan time na naman! Traditionally, the incumbents usually win because they have the machinery and the money and the people to do the dirty work for them. After the candidates win, kanya kanyang banatan na. Irregardless, these candidates who are openly showing their color at the very beginning of a campaign are simply cutting their chances of winning. Any candidate in his right mind will not affiliate themselves with the administration. Maybe this is the first time ever that the incumbents wont win. If they do not cheat, Tiyanak’s candidates will not win, period!

    Earlier I read an article about the superpowers’ hands in the upcoming elections. US is not the only superpower now, there is China, Russia etc. We will have a hybrid senate!

    Interestingly, there was another article about Tiyanak’s trade pact with China. What benefit will China give the tiyanak? It will be the other way around, what benefits will the Philippines give China in this trade pact!

    For those who wish to run under the Tiyanak’s party, good riddance! You will never win this time around. But if your intentions are to turn coat after the elections, this is exactly what the tiyanak deserves! Give it to her.

  57. Spartan Spartan

    Going back to oreta and sotto, I would bet my bottom dollar especially on sotto’s case, that if they indeed run under gloria’s tiket to peryahan, sa kangkungan sila pupulutin. Although win or lose, nakangisi pa rin silang pupunta sa kanilang mga bangko, dala ang limpak na salaping ibibigay ni gloria sa kanila bilang allowance sa kampanya. Salaping galing sa kaban ng bayan na inakala na ni gloria at ng kaniyang mga laipores na sarili nilang pitaka. Talo parin si Juan dela Cruz, dahil ang pera na sana’t pupunta na sa mga bagong silid-aralan, gamit ospital, at iba pang pangunahing serbisyo publiko ay muli na namang maghihintay sa mga pangakong patuloy na napapako. It’s just an endless cycle. 🙁

  58. Spartan Spartan

    forthecountry…well said, good riddance is the appropriate term. Kasi para yan iyong sinabi sa akin nuong mga huling taon ng dekada 80 ng nasirang si Capt. Jose “Bullfrog” Merrano, isang mabagsik na opisyal ng pulis na assigned sa EPD. He’s known to terminate the addicts that commits crimes like burglaries, robberies, hold-ups, and rapes because of their addiction to illigal drugs. Ika nga sina-salvage niya mga pasaway na salot sa lipunan. Sabi niya he’s just doing a good riddance by doing the extra-judicial killing of confirmed redundant criminals. His career was ended by bullets from the Sparrow Unit of the NPAs. He lived by the gun and died by it.

  59. spartan: said
    “but calling us (you included) jackass or stupid by an individual whose real position in life is unknown to all of us,
    I’m hoping that this is a typing error on your part (smile).

  60. zenzennai zenzennai

    Tito Sotto, going Admin?

    “Wala bang Iba?”, sabi ko duon sa kabilang thread, when organizers were contemplating of having him on the slate. Pero, sabi kasi ni Tongue Twisted (whose readings, i always give weight) minsan na meron siyang puwedeng mai-ambag sa oposisyon. Kaya, naisip ko wait and see.

    Pero ngayon, malinaw na personal political survival din lang pala ang habol ng kumag. Ganyan na ganyan din ang Iskwater ng Malakanyang, walang pakundangang basagin niya lahat ang rule of law para lang manatili sa puwesto, eto namang si Tito S., hindi na makuhang magsakripisyo–naka-12 years na sa Senado ayaw mag-giveway sa iba.

    Tessie Oreta, din?

    Sana, ang eleksyon na darating may magbigay daan para seryosong tanungin ng botante ang mga sarili nila. Eleksyon nga ba, talaga ang solusyon sa problema ng Inang Bayan, kung ganitong klaseng mga kandidato ang humihingi sa ating boto’t tulong?

    Meron mga ilang matinong kandidato na nasa listahan ni Anna at Yuko, pero masaklap at mas maraming balasubas na tatakbo!
    Malaking challenge sa mga nakakaintindi, kung paano iparating sa madla ang maniobrahan ng mga ganid…

    =========
    off topic:

    Yuko at Spartan: hindi totoo na kayo lang ang nakakahalata. Expected natin dapat ang pagpupursige nilang sirain ang blog ni Ellen. What motivates them? Suhol ng pera at kapangyarihan.

    Betterment of ordinary Pinoy’s lot, ang sadya ng mga ito?

    Naku po!, these people are smooth talkers pretending to condemn the Illegitimate Palace Occupants as their cover. Real purpose is not only to create CHAOS and CONFUSION within our ranks, but ultimately aims to send Ellen’s blog down the drain.

    I do not worry. I have faith in our readers of having the ability to discern between gem and refuse.

  61. You bet, Zenzennai, we have proven that in all the chaos and confusion that these crooks have planned to create in this blog. What happens in fact is that the good ones are shifted to be molded as one powerful dough. I don’t reply to the sourgrapers, whiners and moaners as a matter of fact except a few that I try hard to squeeze and see the kind of zap they produce—maaasim but puede nang isama sa kaning baboy.

    Right you are. Kilatis na ang mga matatag dito. Hindi puedeng matikdahan, at iyong hindi nila kaya, kinakaya nila. Sabi nga nila mekeni, “Subukan pamu para mabalu!”

    In case Trillanes runs, ito na ang cliche ko para sa mga pins na ipapagawa ko, “SAKIT NG ‘PINAS, SI TRILLANES ANG LUNAS!”

    Still waiting for the UNO line-up from Senator Pimentel and Mayor Binay para ipaalam sa mga boboto dito sa Japan. Staff ko mga pilipino as a matter of fact. Ambagan sa paggawa ng mga election gimmicks. God willing they will win!!!! Wala nang dayaan!

    In fact, iyan ang problema—sourgraping noong mga hindi makasama sa slate! Hopefully, hindi isasama ng UNO ang mga balimbing kahit na magplastic sila. Good riddance indeed itong sina Sotto at Oreta!

  62. nelbar nelbar

     
    Backbench may have multiple meanings:

    ■ For an elected politician in a parliamentary system who is not a cabinet member, see Backbencher

    ■ For the Canadian political comic strip, see Backbench (comic strip).

    ■ A backbencher is a Member of Parliament or a legislator who does not hold governmental office and is not a Front Bench spokesperson in the Opposition. A backbencher may be a new parliamentary member yet to receive high office, a senior figure dropped from government, or someone who for whatever reason is not chosen to sit either in the ministry or the opposition Shadow Ministry.

  63. I don’t see Erap getting angry at Oreta and Sotto joining Danding, who is his friend, too. Problem is there is the attempt to break up the Opposition with the formation of this bogus coalition (kuno) that will not help the movement to oust the bogus president but validate her claim that the Philippines is hers to take. Bakit mahirap makita iyan ni Sotto and Oreta?

    On the other hand, this is blessing in disguise that the people are now seeing what kind of politicians Sotto and Oreta are. Wala rin palang sinabi!

    Frankly, not being a Ninoy fan, I have no admiration for the sister nor the brother nor anyone related to them. Pare-pareho lang ang mga iyan!

    SAKIT NG ‘PINAS, SI TRILLANES ANG LUNAS!

    KOKOY FOR SENATOR! LIKE FATHER LIKE SON, WALANG ALINLANGAN!
    Come to think of it, what the Bansot did to Sotto and Oreta is nothing but prostituting!!! Parang katulad noong mga Colombians na ini-interpret ko sa pulis, sabi sa mga wannabe customers nila, “Niisan, asobi ni ikanai?” (Brother, wanna play with me?)

    Sabi ko na may meaning iyong pagsama ni Oreta sa celebration ng kamatayan ni Ninoy with Gloria and Lupita! Even then, siguro nilutong makaw na. Naisahan si Ellen!!! But it’s OK. Good riddance!!!

  64. cocoy cocoy

    The matter that is happening now in this thread is a pinoy unethical conduct.
    An egotistic principle that everyone want to be invincible .Everyone’s opinion is there personal prerogative.
    TO Fearless Warrior I’ve read your comment about Sotto and Oreta before hand .I reserved my comment until your true motive will reveal and it was an impressive intelligence information.

  65. joeseg joeseg

    I am aware everybody understands that in politics and specifically in getting into the senatorial slate, there’s always the backdoor maneuvering to get the needed attention and finally the nod of the selection committee. Until the final list has been announced, we are in animated suspense and everything is speculative.

    What happened with Tito Sotto and Tessie Aquino is a simple move of transfering from one party who’s not active to another party which is active. It’s does not necessarily mean that they are automatically joining the ticket of the administration. They resigned from LDP because LDP is no longer a potent force with Ed Angara as its president confirmed that he’s not running not even in the third force.

    In joining the NPC, they are in a company with Chiz Escudero. Remember Chiz was Danding Cojuangco’s proxy in a wedding with gma making abresiete with him? It could be a another strategy the same stand as the LP and NP battng for their own candidates for inclusion in the senatiorial ticket. NPC will now have the bargaining power.

    But just like in the past, there’s always nagtatampo if not selected. Lipat sa kabila. It will not surprise us if finally Tessie Oreta will do that. After all, her sister Lupita is with gma. Tito Sotto, I believe will not follow suit but if he does, it’s his ball game. Hayaan natin. Anyway, he was the nino bonito of gma before. But for me, it’s like a kiss of death for both of them. Fini.

    Pulitika nila yan at ganyan ang buhay ng pulitiko. Pero tayo dito, let’s stick to the issue. Why we are here is because we are being allowed to write and say our piece by the gracious host. Let’s not abuse it repeating what has been said already.

    Finally, no matter what and how we argue, as far as I am concerned, the objective remains the same, is 12-0.

  66. nelbar nelbar

     

    cocoy:

    pwede bang malaman ko kung ano ang opinyon mo sa NASCO flag dyan sa North America?

    Namamangha lang kasi ako sa kulay(six-striped) ng Rainbow Flag.

    Akma kasi sa kulay ng pulitika dito sa Pilipinas, traffic light ba o Xmas Light?

    Sana naman walang kumuha ng kulay ng politikong dala ang flag carrier gamit ang Ku Band

     

  67. nelbar nelbar

     
    joeseg:

    Ano ba alam mo na isports na may iskor na 231-0?
    Pwede na ba ang Criket?

    o baka American footbal?

    Si Michael Hacket ang may pinaka mataas na score sa PBA. 103 ba?

     

  68. joeseg joeseg

    I believe in participating in this blog and in other forum that discusses politics, we are contributing our shares to realize a better country we are longing for.

    Our task is to to help unite our nation, never divide;
    To make our country bloom like a beautiful flower,
    For all the world to see.

    Unity begins within ourselves.
    =

  69. cocoy cocoy

    Nelbar:
    Dito sa lugar ko,ang kabisado kong lugar ay south of the border.Taco Bell,El Pollo Loco,Green Burrito,Cayote and no speaking english jumping the fence.Itanong kaya natin kay Sleepless in Seatle,hindi pa tulog iyon.Ha!ha!ha!

  70. joeseg joeseg

    Nelbar

    Sorry, wala akong alam na score 231-0. Baka sa jolens.

    I don’t remember Michael Hacket but what I read in the sports archives, there was a time Danny Florencio scored 49 points of his high school team total score of 50. It was in a basketball championship games among secondary schools.

  71. Mrivera Mrivera

    aling pamunuan pa ang masasabi na hihigit kaya
    sa pagkagahaman, pagkaganid, pagnanakaw at pagkasugapa
    tulad ng ngayo’y salot na kalat at namamayani sa bansa
    isang administrasyong walang pakundangan at walang pagkasawa
    sa tuwirang panilinlang sa paniniwala at tiwala ng madla?

    kanyang sinisimbolo ang isang tanyag na alamat
    na sa ating kasaysaya’y minsan nang tumanyag
    kanyang tinuntunton sinusundan ang yapak
    ng isang traidor at lilong katulad ni hudas
    nagkanulo kay hesus sa tatlumpung pirasong pilak.

    bawat bukas ng kanyang bibig ay pawang kasinungalingan
    bawat bitiwan niyang pangako’y malayo sa katuparan
    anumang paghingi niya ng pang-unawa’t pagdamay
    kapalit ay pagbabalatkayong sa taong baya’y panlilinlang
    upang maitim n’yang balak ay lubos na maisakatuparan!

    kayrami ng buhay ang nawalan ng direksiyon
    kayrami ng tahanang sa dusa ay nabaon
    hindi na magkamayaw ang sigaw ng layon
    buwagin ang rehas ng ating pagkakulong
    sa kuyom ng palad ng sukab at buhong!

    magkaisa tayo kalimutan na ang hidwaan
    ituon ang lakas at pansin sa ating ipinaglalaban
    isaisantabi muna personal na alitan at away
    pagkat balakid itong sa ating lahat ay magbubuwal
    sa pamamayani ng namumunong ganid at gahaman!

    halina, halina, mga katoto ko’t kapatid
    magsamasama tayong lahat at magsipagkapit bisig
    ipagpatuloy ang simulaing sa ati’y nagbigkis
    buksan ang pinto ng unawaang kaytagal nang napinid
    sa iisang adhikaing ipaglaban ang tama’t matuwid!

  72. BLACK KNIGHT BLACK KNIGHT

    What is the main problem why we “whine” and criticize our goverment officials up to the President? Because we think that these people did not truly win and they cheated in the elections. So, who made these candidates win? First, it’s the people, the voting populace, who made them win the elections. And secondly, the entity that counts the votes of the people.

    On the first element, it is hard to determine what a voter is in his mind when he is casting his/her vote in the polling place. Everything depends on his judgement and opinion about the candidate basing from the criteria he set forth as his standard for a good government servant. There is not much problem about this. The problem comes now if his/her vote is not counted by the very insitution of the government or society whose mandate is to uphold a honest, orderly, peaceful and transparent conduct of elections.

    Ellen, I suggest something has to be done with the COMELEC through your column/blog and investigative reporting. First, the people, up to this time, is not aware of the actual exact number of voters in every town, city, province, district, region and for the whole nation. Second, the voters list is not updated despite acceptance of new registrants. Third, counting is still in the “stone-age” practice. Fourth, “disenfranchisement” of voters is still in existence during election day. Fifth, the COMELEC Commissioners are all politicians. Sixth, the COMELEC officials can be bribed depending on who is the “highest bidder”. Seventh, the military and the police should not be used in the conduct of elections in any capacity.

  73. Joeseg:

    May unity naman sa totoo lang among the real bloggers here, sa totoo lang.
    Tanong ng marami bakit hindi ba makita ng mga iyan ang salbaheng sinusuporta nila? Bakit kailangan nilang makita. Bread and butter nila si Burot dahil burot din sila!!! Simple lang naman! And a lot of common sense! 😛

  74. Mrivera Mrivera

    sana ang mga nakatapos na ng kanikanilang termino ay magpahinga na. huwag nang makisawsaw pa at ipaubaya na lang sa mga bagong sibol na merong ipinapangakong pagbabago upang mabunot ang tinik sa lalamunan ng sambayang pinoy – ANG TUNAY NA ISYU, ang baliw na babaeng mukhang daga sa loob ng malakanyang na ayaw umaalis sa kanyang lungga, ang pansamantalang permanenteng prangulo – GLORIA MAKAPAL DE PIDAL DOROBO! boooo! boooo! tsupiiiiiiii! layas d’yan!

  75. Just got a note from MLQ on this mess about Sotto and Oreta, who cannot remain with the Opposition and is running with the GMA ticket under the NPC while Chiz Escudero is running for the Opposition also under NPC, which is what Danding Cojuangco is all about—a sigurista!

    But with or without Danding’s money, Escudero, I believe, has earned his keep for being consistent. I know for a fact that a group of veterans are voting for him because of the reputation of his grandfather, who never made it into Zaide’s history books, but according to interviews we made with WWII veterans, he was the organizer of the guerrilla movement in southern Luzon and the Visayas in WWII.

    As one guerrilla said, “Kung tatakbo si Chiz Escudero para pangulo, iboboto namin siya!” Right now, tatakbo siya for Senator! Pihadong panalo siya!

  76. Come to think of it, but the picture of Chiz Escudero in Inquirer with the Switik must have been a trick to give the impression that Chiz is likely to jump ship, too, ala-Sotto and Oreta. Mabuti na lang consistent siya! Walang kuma-kumare, o kumpa-kumpare when it comes to politics and serving his country and people. Iyan ang tunay!

    I heard about Cayetano’s gain over the Fatso, too, from friends who watched the news yesterday. Kaya sinong may sabing walang ipapalit kay Mrs. Pidal? Bakit hindi puedeng palitan ang isang magnanakaw na switik pa?

  77. fearfulwarrior fearfulwarrior

    Here’s the latest. Sa akin niyo unang malalaman ang balitang ito. Before I be accused again of posting garbage and spreading rumor, I want you to verify and confirm this yourselves. Ang masasabi ko lang ay galing ito sa mga kakilala kong sources sa opposition. Take it or leave it. Iyan ang pinakahuling balitang nakuha ko. Salamat at Mabuhay!

    ***Tito Sotto is going to be part of a mixed “unity ticket”
    sponsored by Jun Dy for GMA. Kasama niya sina Mike
    Defensor, Migs Zubiri, Gilbert Teodoro, Edu Manzano. Wala pa akong balita kay Tessie Oreta but rest assured you will be the first to know about her.

  78. “Arroyo woos Sotto, Oreta for Senate slate,” says Tribune. Wooing stage pa lang pala si Burot e bakit sabi kasama na ang dalawang ito sa kanila? Desperate talaga ha! I’ll wait for Ellen’s latest report on this when she is able to talk to Sotto and Oreta. Mas mabuti na iyong galing sa bibig nila kesa sa tsismis lang! Then, saka natin sila banatan kung palpak sila.

  79. fearfulwarrior fearfulwarrior

    I said take it or leave it. No one tells you to believe the news. It’s no longer wooing dahil kasama na nga. When you’re already married to your spouse, does he have to woo you? Tsismis na naman ang tira mo. You would be surprised if I reveal who my source is. Ikaw nandiyan lang sa bansang sinkit tapos puro dada. You and a few just like to put me down. Kahit nga si Ka Ellen nagkamali nga ng bintang sa akin. Take it or leave it!

  80. fearfulwarrior fearfulwarrior

    Also, what you rely only are the news online taken from newspaper reports. Ako mismong sa loob ng opposition. Bakit pa nila sasabihin sa iyo? Who are you? Dapat ba galing sa sariling bunganga? Not always. But you’re free to check it before you and the rest jump into conclusion again. Baka mapahiya na naman kayo tapos maglalagay ng thread to clarify the mistake. Huwag puro bunganga. Pakinggan at basahin mo muna, imbestigahin kung gusto mo (use your police connection there). Saka ka tumahol.

  81. cocoy cocoy

    Fearfulwarrior:
    Siguro naman nabasa mo iyong comment ko sa itaas kung bakit ayaw kong mag-post.Nabangit ko kay pareng joeseg ang dahilan doon sa ibang lunga na Si Gloria ang issue.Gusto mo bisita ka doon.Pero sabi niya wag naman ganoon.Tunay kang kaibigan mandirigma.Alam ko kaya mo iyan.Ganyan lang naman talaga.You can’t please everyone.Mayroon ka pa namang kakampi dito liban sa akin.Huwag ng umunit ang ulo mo.Iisa lang naman ang layunin natin dito.Magsulat ka na at huwag mo ng pansinin iyong mga may ayaw sa iyo.Hindi mo naman iniaasa ang buhay mo sa kanila.Kaibigan makinig ka sa akin,ang pikon talo.Sumulat ka na maraming ang humahanga sa iyo.Universal itong blog na ito kaibigan.Ipakita mo ang pag ka warrior mo sa mga panulat na taglay mong talino.

  82. fearfulwarrior fearfulwarrior

    Before I go on vacation, let me share this with you. President Erap was surprised with Sotto’s decision. Sotto has not seen Erap in a month. As for Tessie Oreta, masama ang loob dahil inasahan niya ang blessing ni Erap for a senatorial run. Kaya lang between Noynoy and Tessie, ang layo ng agwat nun isa sa surveys. Noynoy is anywhere from 11 to 16 in all the previous surveys, while Tessie is doing 36-40. Dapat siguro mag-Congress na lang muna siya sa Malabon. Masaya ang mga FPJ loyalists kasi they say si
    Sotto at Angara naman daw ang sumabotahe sa campaign ni
    FPJ. Binulsa daw ang pera (sila ang may sabi niyan)
    at napakasama daw ng takbo ng kampanya. Now, take it or leave it uli sa balita ko.

  83. ramil brusko ramil brusko

    The two have the rights to choose what they want, di ba. Wala na tayong magagawa kasi gusto rin nilang maging senador pero ang nangyayari nito pinagtatawanan sila ng administration kasi nagkawatak-watak ang oposisyon. Sa aking palagay mahihirapan ang oposisyon na madomina ang senado. Ang UNO naman ay me pamantayan kung sino ang dapat at ang di-dapat.

  84. chi chi

    Hahahah! “Mabilaukan sana kayo”. Tuwang-tuwa ako sa iyo, Spartan! Hala-bira, we keep on blogging hanggang matapos ang katarantaduhan ng Dirty Mama Glueria!

  85. hug-a-thorn hug-a-thorn

    FW:
    Listen “fearless” – nah – “spiteful warrior” (is more apt for you!) … listen well and put this in perspective. Your information came ahead of Ellen’s findings. You can’t blame her for not accepting it because she talked with Oreta herself the night before.

    Nevertheless, she still valued your news (who wouldn’t – considering that you’re the source!) to drive her to check its veracity directly with Oreta. Finally, after viewing a TV broadcast, Ellen verified the news again.

    These repeated attempts to print and disseminate true and accurate reports demonstrate Ellen’s professionalism as a journalist. See – she didn’t have to print your news, yet she did and even created a thread to open the flow of thoughts and opinions on the matter.

    You also were given credit for your news in her column (not owning the news for herself). The aftermath was tantamount to saying your news was valid.

    It appears you are numb to subtleties and need things spelled outrightly to your face (how about skull?)… A written apology from her to you?!? Gracious goodness… a thank you is more fitting because she probes the truth with scoops like yours — to serve NOT YOUR EGO but to serve the truth for all to read and see!!! See — if you are really sensitive to subtleties, you should have sensed the chagrin of many bloggers about your “spiteful ego”. Sobra ang kulit mo!

    I have full respect for old people, but you appear to come from a different breed. “Tumanda kang paurong…ngaw-ngaw ka nang ngaw-ngaw maski sa mga ibang thread. Masuwerte ka hinahayaan ka pa ni Ellen na tumagal sa kaniyang blog.”

    Act the smart person that you like all bloggers to believe that you are.

  86. kitamokitako kitamokitako

    I think what is painful for warrior was for his comment or post to be called a rubbish. I was really shocked myself when i read it and especially coming from Ellen herself. There could have been a better way to state that his post was not welcome, but for anyone whose post to be described rubbish, i myself would also say ‘aray’.

  87. Chabeli Chabeli

    It could be possible that GLORIA actually has 2 groups. The 1st group is the OFFICIAL LIST of GLORIA that will be announced to the public. Actually, this is what I term as the BASURA list. Those who appear on that OFFICIAL LIST are those that GLORIA knows will lose-most of w/c will be those who are w/ LAKAS or aligned w/ LAKAS for that matter. However, for her political survival, we very well know that she cannot afford to be a minority in either the Senate, House & in the Local level (LGU). This is were the 2nd group comes in-the so-called, “THIRD FORCE”. The THIRD FORCE is were GLORIA will field in her KAMPI candidates. To give a semblance of “credibility”, there will also be candidates whom GLORIA can muscle easily as they are not loyal to anyone but themselves-it is an easier task for GLORIA to handle; she does this job very well. Notice for example, the likes of Recto (he’s neither anti or pro), Pangilinan (“Mr. Noted”), to name a few.

    True to form, GLORIA is creating CONFUSION. Then, she will be able to DIVIDE, and then she will CONQUER. Her modus operandi seems to written on the wall. Another DECEPTION act by GLORIA.

    It’s best we be prepared for this DEMON than fall flat on our faces again !

  88. Chabeli Chabeli

    It could be possible that GLORIA actually has 2 groups. The 1st group is the OFFICIAL LIST of GLORIA that will be announced to the public. Actually, this is what I term as the BASURA list. Those who appear on that OFFICIAL LIST are those that GLORIA knows will lose-most of w/c will be those who are w/ LAKAS or aligned w/ LAKAS for that matter. However, for her political survival, we very well know that she cannot afford to be a minority in either the Senate, House & in the Local level (LGU). This is were the 2nd group comes in-the so-called, “THIRD FORCE”. The THIRD FORCE is were GLORIA will field in her KAMPI candidates. To give a semblance of “credibility”, there will also be candidates whom GLORIA can muscle easily as they are not loyal to anyone but themselves-it is an easier task for GLORIA to handle; she does this job very well. Notice for example, the likes of Recto (he’s neither anti or pro), Pangilinan (“Mr. Noted”), to name a few.

    True to form, GLORIA is creating CONFUSION. Then, she will be able to DIVIDE, and then she will CONQUER. Her modus operandi seems to written on the wall. Another DECEPTION act by GLORIA.

    GLORIA IS SPLITTING THE OPPOSITION AGAIN ! GLORIA did it in ’04, she’ll do it again. Although she is doing it in another form, it’s the same SHI*T ! She is out to FOOL THE PEOPLE AGAIN ! It’s best we be prepared for this DEMON than fall flat on our faces again !

  89. chi chi

    Chabeli,

    If your hunch will be proven right, it would show that Dirty Mama Glueria likened herself to Jesus who have two sets of apostles, the external and the inner/gnostic. Somebody in MMG’s circle must have been reading the Gnostic Gospel! Only, Dirty Mama’s version is for her own survival, not for anyone else!

    OK, for candidates who’ll join the third force, NO VOTE from me, even if it’s Chiz E! Ganyan ako galit kay Dirty Mama Glueria!

  90. Chi,

    Christ did not have two sets of Apostles. He chose 12 of them who were in his inner circle, no outsider. When Judas Iscariot betrayed Him. the Apostles chose Mathias, who must be one of the 70’s taking Iscariot’s place. There are no outsiders in Christ’s organization. Sabi nga niya, “You cannot serve two masters, either you choose one or be destroyed!”

    As for the Burot liking herself to Christ, ingat siya, kasi baka tamaan siya ng kidlat, especially when she cannot even follow the examples nor heed the Gospel of Christ! It’s called “blasphemy” which God abhors.

    PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

  91. Huwag na nating intindihin ang mga grupo ni Burot. Ang intindihin ng mga galit sa kaniya ay ang hindi makadaya si Abalos, et al para sa kaniya especially now that NAMFREL, etc. meddlers are gone and will not be accredited to count votes. Best thing to do is have watchers who are fearless and will guard the votes with their lives and everything!

    PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!

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