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Mikey, Iggy Arroyo corner energy related committees

No wonder the upright Popo Lotilla was shunted out of the Department of Energy.

by Wendell Vigilia

All in the family.

Bayan Muna Rep. Teodoro Casiño has questioned the appointment of two Arroyos as chairmen of powerful committees at the House, saying this could betray the legislative duty of check and balance.

During the plenary session on Monday night, Casiño questioned the assignments of Rep. Juan Miguel “Mikey” Arroyo (Pampanga) as chair of the committee on energy and his uncle Rep. Ignacio (Iggy) Arroyo (Negros Occidental) as chair of the committee on natural resources.

Casiño said the Arroyos’ chairing of the two “juicy” and “strategic” panels “would prevent the House from fully exercising its duty of checking the executive from abuses and wrongdoings in governance.”

“I hope the election of the President’s son and brother-in-law is not based on the proportional representation of the Arroyo bloc in Congress or their closeness to the President. There are three Arroyos in this House, even four counting the President who is an omnipresent and omnipotent member of this House,” he said.

The third Arroyo is Camarines Sur Rep. Diosdado “Dato” Arroyo, elder brother of Mikey.

Deputy majority leader Neptali Gonzales III ruled Casiño out of order.

“The Arroyo bloc is the most powerful bloc in the House. No other political clan has so much power and influence. Nothing compares to it,” Casiño said.

He noted that for this year alone, the Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management Corp. (Psalm) is planning to expedite the sale of 22 power plants of the National Power Corp. as well as bid out the multi-million, 25-year franchise for the National Transmission Corporation (Transco).

Casiño launched an investigation into the botched sale of the multi-million Masinloc power plant in the 13th Congress.

He said the President “has also taken keen interest in the mining sector” by signing Executive Order No. 636 transferring the Philippine Mining Development Corp. from the Department of Environment and Natural Resources to the Office of the President on July 18.

PMDC is the environment department’s corporate arm in charge of exploring, developing, mining, smelting and producing all kinds of mineral deposits and resources.

Casiño said this is why Iggy’s appointment to the natural resources panel “bodes ill for the country’s finite resources and the environment.”

He said they have reason to believe that the transfer was meant to speed up the grant of permits to foreign-backed mining firms “to squander our mineral resources.”

“The Arroyo bloc has a sinister mining plan that will ravage the country’s natural resources to the detriment of our fragile ecosystems,” Casiño said.

“Can the President’s son and brother-in-law effectively exercise the oversight functions of the committees they head over these multi-billion-peso deals? And even if they did, will the public ever believe that they are not biased? That is the problem,” he added.

Mikey urged Speaker Jose de Venecia to expedite the composition of his panel, saying he intends to start drawing up plans to avert or at least mitigate the effects of the looming water and power crises.

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51 Comments

  1. Mikey, Iggy, Datu: It’s spelled subtle corruption in the making.

  2. On a second thought… blatantly bold move to… hmmm…

  3. Nelbar, please just link the articles you want to share with others here.

    I’m repeating earlier request I said: please refrain from custting and pasting long articles from other sites. Just link it.

  4. nelbar nelbar

    Ellen, “tama ba ang wrong spelling” na nakita ako sa itaas(link provided).

    yung howeverm at judgment , mula sa nasabing link.

    binago ko na lang(edit) at ginawang ‘however’(11th paragraph) & ‘judgement’(8th paragraph).

    Hayaan nyo na lang, balik na lang tayo sa topic.

    ipagpaumanhin nyo …

  5. xanadu xanadu

    Mikey Arroyo, committee chairman on energy. Ano pa ang pwedeng sabihin ng madlang pipol kung sino ang kapural nito? Ang tanging ina nya. (Tongue Twisted, sounds family?)

    Kaya pala grabe ang palakpak sa SONA. Inayos na ni de Venecia. Ang unang tanong kay Mikey: How will he solve the impending energy crisis?

  6. chi chi

    Mickey d’horsey, energy chair and the fake Pidal, natural resources chair. There’ll be more TAGTUYO sa Pinas!

    Ngayon, magdasal na tayo ng totohanan!

  7. cocoy cocoy

    chi;
    Any law-abiding filipino left must now migrate.

  8. rose rose

    In another thread neonate mentioned that there will be oil drilling project in Antique and asked if I was excited about this. I responded by saying that not only will it pollute the place, but it will also be a source of corruption. Now I read in that article mentioned by nelbar that Boy Ex (congressman of Antique) is one of the favored one to get a choice committee, although I know he had been head ofthe ways and means. Boy Ex is close to Mike Arroyo, they were classmates in Ateneo. Sally Perez’s,( the governor of Antique) father Calixto Zaldivar was Pres. Diosdado Macapagal’s executive secretary. Puera na lang kung Boy Ex and Sally are in good terms..for me who is from Antique, and personally know both..I will enjoy watching what the two will do. Malayong, malayo si Boy Ex sa kapatid niyang si Evelio (who was married to a Lotilla, an aunt of Rafael (Popo) Lotilla, who just resigned as secretary of energy.

  9. prans prans

    01 Aug 2007

    It’s party time guys, WOW!!!!! cornering the environment and the energy committee, hehehehehehe….

    Anyhow guys, have your seen the movie, the distinguished gentleman of eddie murphy??? eddie murphy plays a hustler who turned politician, then the speaker of the house asked him to become a member of the power and energy committee of the US congress. The point here is in that movie, the power and energy committee shows how easily a committee chairman and its member gets money out of the businessmen and govt agencies, it also shows how the wheeling and dealing happens. Maybe, just maybe mikey arrovo have seen that movie, hehehehehehe…..

    Just watch it, if you haven’t seen it yet.

    prans

  10. neonate neonate

    Cocoy, if all law-abiding Flips flee, who will be left here with me to battle evil?

  11. cocoy cocoy

    Neonate;
    You think you can win a battle with this despotic regime.a third riegh uprising.Hitler’s history is re-written.Can’t you see,the son head the energy to supply power to gas-chamber.Better seek refuge and re- group,like what Rizal did in Spain.

  12. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    The appointments of Joselito Atienza as the Secretary of Department of Environment and Natural Resources and Heherson Alvarez as chairman of the Philippine Mining Development Corporation, a government owned and controlled corporation tasked to revive the country’s mineral-mining industry is considered a political payback. The designation of Ignacio Jose Pidal (fake) Arroyo, Lower House Chairman, committee on natural resources completes the puzzle. The GMA stooges are a recipe for environmental disaster.

    If you try to connect the dots of the three GMA close political allies, it has something to do with the revival of mineral mining industry in the Philippines. Multi-national mining companies and corporate giants are allowed full ownership of mining ventures. It appears that Gloria Arroyo is willing to protect foreign interest first and foremost than our national interest. What do we expect? We expect an Arroyo brand of cover-ups and whitewash just in case of another environmental disaster like the Marcopper and Rapu-Rapu mining tragedies. The Arroyo government has a failure score in the strict enforcement of environmental and mining laws and protection of indigenous peoples. There’s no checks and balance in place (mineral-mining) for Tayo-Tayo system. The three Arroyo stooges will see no evil, speak no evil, and hear no evil.

  13. neonate neonate

    This is a silly question but I’ll ask it anyway as I owe it to Ellenville. What kind of President do the Filipino people really want: a visionary (20 more years extension to the current one), a reactionary (3 more years of misery and agony) or a repentant one who says I’m sorry, I have to go now, latest by December as my X’Mas gift.
    Well, folks, if there’s still any doubt that the 14th Congress will NOT be a hegemony, the railroading of the plum Chairs to the Arroyo clan should be conclusive.

  14. Tilamsik Tilamsik

    Salamat Ka Teddy Casino, salamat sa genuine Party List kayo ang boses ng inaaping uri, kayo ang representasyon ng latak ng lipunan, kayo ang tagapagtanggol ng masa. Mabuhay ka Ka Teddy. Long Live the “Working Class”.

    Ituloy po ninyo ang laban at pakikidigma sa burgesyang uri, buwayang capitalista, comprador, tuta at garapata ng imperyalismo. Bagamat mahirap, ituloy parin ang laban sa ligislatura kaantabay ang parliamentong kalsada. (Migration is not the cure).

  15. Mrivera Mrivera

    xanadu says: “………..How will he solve the impending energy crisis?”

    kaibigan, simple lamang. madali lang ‘yan. alternative source of energy ang gagamitin ni mikey.

    di ba’t siya ang hari ng mga kabayo? ang tatay niya ang pinakamataas sa pamunuan ng babuyan kingdom?

    pagsasamasamahin nila ang mga tae ng baboy at kabayo ay ‘yun ang gagawin nilang alternatibong pagkukunan ng enerhiya. nakaplano na ‘yan, noon pa.

    tamang tama, si iggy hikain ang sa natural resources di ba? magkakatulong sila sa pagpaparami ng mga kabayuhan at babuyan sa pamamagitan ng pagtatanim ng mga damong kakainin ng kabayo at kangkong na pagkain ng baboy. kaya hindi pa man, solb na ang problema! nakatipid pa, pero ang kuwarta sa bulsa nila ang punta!

  16. AK-47 AK-47

    cocoy, i think it would be better if gloria herself migrate in “hell” !

  17. Cocoy: Any law-abiding filipino left must now migrate.
    *****

    Sinabi mo pa! One of the things that I am grateful for not having been left behind by my parents and siblings in the Philippines and being allowed to settle in the land of one of my ancestors was the training I had to be honest and law-abiding. Hindi puede ang palusot!

    Diyan magaling ang mga tao sa Pilipinas dahil iyan ang standard na ipinapairal ng mga gunggong na binoboto ng mga pilipino, ang mandaya at magpalusot. Sa Japan, pihadong kulong ang abot ng mga lawbreakers dahil walang patawad lalo na’t efficient ang mga nagpapairal ng batas. Of course, the justice ministry is not under the control of the PM even when the Minister of Justice is a political appointee. Hindi makahirit sa mga bureaucrats ang mga politico, that’s why.

    I remember learning in grade school about the separation of the 3 branches of government in a democracy, and that was how it was when we left the Philippines. What happened exactly? Why is it that now the Poohtah is controlling all branches of government and acting as if she owns the Philippines? Kagaguhan na iyan. Bakit hindi iyan sinusupil?

  18. AK-47 AK-47

    let’s go back to gloria’s recent SONA when she said : “the president is as strong as she wanted to be”, with this phrase, it answers all our critics against this evil. we could do nothing but to get her out from her enchanted kingdom now!

    let’s get trillanes out from prison and all the incarcerated ideal, brave ad patriotic officers like gen. miranda, col. querubin, col parcon and among others, go to EDSA and attack malacanang now! instead of basilan (a moro moro basilan attack).

  19. Mrivera Mrivera

    prans says: “…….Maybe, just maybe mikey arrovo have seen that movie,….”

    abanakupunamang nangyari ‘yan? ibig bang sabihin, prans, ‘yun ang model na gagawin nina kabayong mikey at hikaing iggy kaya nagpumilit silang kunin ang nasabing mga komite?

    aba’y kung sa dali ng paggawa ng pera ay tunay na madali nga kapag nagsimula na silang rumaket.

    tsk. tsk. tsk.

    magkano kaya ang patong ni jose tae nga ng daga deamnesia sa usapan nila?

  20. martina martina

    Either na may itinatago silang misteryo diyan, o may lulutuing misteryo ang pamilya, kaya sila sila lang. Bakit hindi gawing chairman din si Datu ng Blue ribbon, para kumpleto. Sa totoo lang, sagad sagad ang pagka kapal nila, mga makakapagal. Wala pa akong alam na katulad nila sa buong mundo, sa kapal!

  21. neonate neonate

    Don’t meddle with our business, says Mikey Arroyo to Teddy Casino in Congress.
    Mind your own business? I beg your pardon; I say it is my right as a citizen to mind ANY monkey business.
    Dr. Nathaniel Cruz, Weather chief of PAGASA confirmed in ABS-CBN that they have not yet acquired the Doppler radar for weather forecasting, but successfully concealed his sulk in the interview. Dr. Cruz, presumably a PhD holder, was unimpressive, talking like a fresh baccalaureate graduate in Meteorology. He explained rainfall in the classical lore of convection currents, rising heated air laden with moisture and forming cumulo-nimbus clouds which then precipitates into rain upon reaching a height of low temperature. (Modern studies indicate that precipitation is a much more complex process that starts with dust nuclei). I think this could be the reason we are still lucky that he has not been offered a high paying weather forecasting job in Singapore.

  22. neonate neonate

    The drought crisis is starting to reek of a conspiracy between Congress and the Executive. Ate Glue plans to ask Congress for emergency powers to mitigate the impending energy crisis. Coincidentally, son Mikey is designated Chair of the Energy committee and bilas Iggy gets the Mining Chair. (Note that coal is mined for use as fuel in Power Plants. Get the picture?
    But surprise, surprise. Another Arroyo is against giving Ate Glue emergency powers. His name is Joker, and he is serious.

  23. “Don’t meddle with our business, says Mikey Arroyo to Teddy Casino in Congress.”

    Ohmigoodness me! How very telling… that piglet Arroyo doesn’t know the meaning of transparency at all, does he? The mere utterance of “Don’t meddle with our business” is symptomatic of the mafiosi type rules of engagment!

    Neonate is absolutely right! “I beg your pardon; I say it is my right as a citizen to mind ANY monkey business.”

    I’d say, excuse me but this piglet arroyo must be taught a lesson here and now! Katayin na yan!

  24. we-will-never-learn we-will-never-learn

    neonate: said
    “His name is Joker, and he is serious” or could it be we are being conned to thinking that he’s the correct choice for the Blue Ribbon Chair. He he he call me cynical or what!

  25. chi chi

    “Don’t meddle with our business, says Mikey Arroyo to Teddy Casino in Congress.”

    Neonate,

    What business is Mikey d’Horsey talking about, Pidal’s corrupt business? They now aggressively into mining business! Do they foresee the horrible end of Gloria, so they’re enriching themselves even more with dirty businesses?!

    Migrate in the bottomless pit of your mining business, bastards!

  26. Re Cocoy’s “Any law-abiding filipino left must now migrate.”

    But Cocoy, this is precisely what Gloria and a handful of scalawags in the Philippines wants to happen. When every law abiding Filipino has left, Gloria, her piggy husband and all their galamays will no longer be blocked! They can do what they want with the country.

    Giving in to this woman shit (Gloria) is selling Pinas to the lowest bidder. Why migrate? Instead build a dungeon for Gloria and her liter of piglets, Mikey, Dato and Luli and whoever in the recesses of the mines in Bulacan! Putragis na mga walanghiya iyan! Palibhasa mga baboy, kaya baboy din ang attitude!

  27. chi chi

    Joker serves only the horrible Gloria and malevolent partner Mike Pidal. All his utterances were, are and will be for his patron’s sake, not Pinas! Matagal na niyang ibinenta and bansa!

    Malapit ng mag-migrate ang Joker na ‘yan, duon sa ibaba!

  28. TurningPoint TurningPoint

    Maybe, Gloria Macagarapal Arroyo’s one concept of legacy is to create more crisis by having her son and brother in law appointed heads (hidhid) to such important committees thereby creating controversies and spawning more crisis. Dito lamang, we now have the inkling on how Mikey Arroyo will fare when he said to Teddy Casino to “mind your own business”. Meaning, he will make the committee his own business. Maliwanag ang kahulugan niyan, may maniobrang gagawin sapagkat: MAY PERA DYAN.

  29. Mrivera Mrivera

    “Diyan magaling ang mga tao sa Pilipinas dahil iyan ang standard na ipinapairal ng mga gunggong na binoboto ng mga pilipino, ang mandaya at magpalusot.”

    yuko, hindi naman lahat. huwag namang ganyan. tukuyin mo ‘yung mga gumagawa ng ganu’n na ay pinaiiral ay pansariling interes lamang.

    naghihirap na nga huwag lamang makulapulan ng tae ng katiwalian ay nadadamay pa sa generalization mo. marami pa namang natitirang nagpapahalaga sa dangal ng pagkatao kahit walang laman ang hapag at walang maihain sa dulang.

  30. goji goji

    Gloria Arroyo has no choice but to place his family on very powerful positions in the House considering the decline of support she has from her own people. With the inevitable split of Garcia and JDV groups, Arroyo must have her own trusted guys to protect her in Congress. In the Senate, she’s comfortably safe with Enrile and Santiago whose combative style has often resulted in her favor. She needs all these before 2010 to remain in power. Comes 2010, don’t be surprised if she’s still in power. Worst scenario is she will make sure it’s her dummy to be elected as President. Will we and the people allow this? The answer is up to us.

  31. Sampot Sampot

    Nakakatawa ngunit nakalulungkot isipin na ang mag-tiyuhin na ‘to ang pinaka-qualified mamuno sa mga committee na dapat ay mapupunta sa mga engineers.

    If changes be made into our system, i would like to see a ban on all politicians whose background is only Political Science and nothing else. I even wonder why it’s called a science when politics is more of an Art.

    Politicians are not the cause but the bane of human progress. Societies’ development is brought about by scientists and engineers and nobody else.

    The dependence on oil to run the world economies had been solved a long time ago – 110 years to be exact.

    Dr. Nikola Tesla, whose works and accomplishments can’t be found in your college textbooks had, among others, discovered, prototyped, manufactured the ff:

    1. Revolving Magnetic Field aka Polyphase Motors which brought about the 2nd Industrial Revolution;

    2. b>Wireless Transmission of Electricity [AC] which could have provided humanity with free source of energy and all its enormous economic benefits;

    3. Wireless Transmission of Voice and Data which has led to our being able to communicate thru this blog;

    4. Weather Manipulation thru Ionization of the Earth’s atmosphere where arid lands could be made irrigable, and disasters like tsunami and earthquakes are prevented.

    5. Remote Control, Robotics and Automation

    We even have our own Engr. Daniel Dingel who’s been riding his water-fueled car for 4 decades now.

    These are the facts which led me to literally burn my textbooks and got myself a WiFi.

    Do these GMA Idiots know a bit of these technologies?

    No, they are thinking more than what Ramos did with his IPPs.

    Again, let’s not wait for politicians to solve our problems – energy, water, economy. Each of us can contribute to its solutions by implementing these technologies into our homes, right NOW.

    For those who are tired of paying bills and can’t stand breathing Carbon Dioxide, just google-up with keyword like “free energy”, “watercar”, “cold fusion”.

    For the skeptics, patents might convince you, so try Google Patents with keyword like “water fuel cell”, “tesla”.

    Once you understand the principles, start building it and don’t stop ’til you got it right.

    These technologies are more than enough for one man. Share it.

  32. “Politicians are not the cause but the bane of human progress. ”

    Professional politicians that is… Problem as ever is we have good people who don’t want to enter politics because of the bad name the word “politician” connotes.

    But I agree with Sampot, we, the people should not depend so much on these politicians, there are things that we can do and should do.

    First and foremost, I believe we should also not allow these politicians to use us, we vote only those who deserve to be in government and those who fail us must be thrown in the bin of nothingness.

    It can be done because we do it in Europe, it’s done in the US (as when Bush got whacked, asswhacked in the mid-term elections), in Singapore, etc – but people, citizens, everybody, etc. must be pro-active.

    If politicians want to be in the business of politics then we the people, those who vote for them should also mean business – not monkey business but legit business.

  33. chi chi

    Sampot,

    You’ve mentioned Dr. Nikola Tesla, I have a scientist friend who is a follower of Tesla and pursued an idea of a perpetual motion machine by use of gravity. As usual, wala ring nangyari when he presented his idea and experiments to the gov’t.

    I’m not very up to date about his progress, but even if the gov’t wasn’t interested, he’s happy that he himself is benefitting from his vision.

  34. chi chi

    We go back to the idea of self-reliance and let’s make these trapolitos and trapolitas inconsequencial to our everyday lives!

    Let’s choose very carefully personalities we will put in the public offices to run the administration of the government, but, yes Anna, let’s not make them run our own lives! Let’s support those deserving politicians and kick out those who are bane of progress!

  35. Sampot Sampot

    chi,

    Ganyan din ang nangyari kay Dingel. Pumunta kay Marcos in 1969, sabi, “Anong manyari sa Bataan Nuclear Plant na plano namin?”

    Sumulpot si Cory. Pinasakay naman niya sa front seat ng kanyang watercar, sabi, “This is the miracle i’ve been waiting for!”

    Two weeks later, “IMF-World Bank would not allow us to manufacture products which will be in competition with theirs [oil].”

    Umeksena naman si Erap. Di rin pinansin. Napatalsik pa.

    That is why for those who have successfully replicated these technologies, don’t approach the politicians. Rather “share” it directly to your neighbors. In fact, this is what’s going on now. Marami dyan na tahimik na lang nagko-convert ng mga sasakyan from gasoline to water-fueled engines.

    Do it silently, this might cost lives.

  36. rose rose

    Neonate: what kind of president would I like to run the political institutions of the country? One who has a vision of a democratic country..not an extension of this one whose vision is just for herself and for her families for generations to come not just 20 years. We can see that now …and it is just the beginning. Reactionary? 3 years of antus anay my love…but let us not allow her to manipulate our voice..let us demand from her administration to allow Sen. Trillanes to work as senator. We need more Trillanes..let the spirit of democracy sink in and work in us..let us be vigilant and cry out loud of what kind of government we want and should have…yes three years but three years is just around the corner..but before 2010 let
    us demand for a change..antus anay my love..a repentant one?
    that is asking for an impossible thing…Gloria repentant?
    Arroyo, repentant? She has heard I am sure of John the Baptist…”repent for the kingdom of God is at hand!” But she refuses to do anything…Repentant? Impossible..
    Politics- a science of political institution’s administration and organization.. She made it an art in the sense that she would manipulate people and use them to get and justify her personal wants and ambitions..by paying them one way or another. The road to hell is wide and open to those who will follow Satan..the road to Christ is narrow..and asks for sacrifices..we have a choice..ano ang sa inyo?

  37. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    -Lotilla resigns from DOE.
    -Reyes leaves DENR for DOE.
    -Atienza replaces Reyes at DENR.
    -Mining (PMDC) removed from DENR; appoints Alvarez to PMDC, PMDC moved to Arroyo’s OP.
    -Arroyo gets Environment Committee
    -Arroyo gets Energy Committee.
    -Arroyos get everything.
    -We get fucked.
    -Gets nyo?

  38. rose rose

    Tongue: pinaglalaruan lang…Remember the game..musical chair? or trip to Jerusalem? pinaiikot lang sa isang tugtug
    paiikot sa mga silya at pagtigil ng music at wala kang silya talsik ka. Yon ang laro ni GMA! But we can play our own game..Sipa.. or hockey use them as pucks and send them all to hell. Or kaya soccer- or kick ball…or bowling using them as pins (pinball ba ang tawag?) make her the queen pin at I am sure each one of us will have perfect scores..strikes lahat ng tira..

  39. Galing mo, Tongue.

    Nakakainis!

  40. we-will-never-learn we-will-never-learn

    This sort of questionable committe control makes the propaganda of the AFP saying that the NPA is responsible for extra judicial killings un-believable.
    Surely the NPA have more pleasing targets to aim at – more pleasing and acceptable to the populace at large!

  41. we-will-never-learn we-will-never-learn

    Whoever is rubbing out the street children have got their priorities way out of line.

  42. zen2 zen2

    walang duda, ang angkan na ito, malamang supling ng mga pamilyang underworld ng Sicily, Southern Italy.

    heto na yung modus vivendi ng mga tulisan, kapalit ng boto sa pagsuporta kay JdV.

    first order of the day, sa Kongreso: PLUNDER !

  43. Mrivera Mrivera

    mula sa ispiker hanggang sa mga nagpumilit makakuha ng chairmanship ng mahahalagang komite sa kotongreso, makakapal na ang mukha ng mgay ‘yan.

    hinding hinding hinding hindi na tatablan ng kahihiyan ang mga sinalibad ng kupal na mga ‘yan!

  44. Golberg Golberg

    Ito,kinuha ko lang sa tono nung kanta ni Vhong Navarro entittled “Totoy bibo.” Kyo na lang ang bahala sa pagkanta. Hehehehehehehehehehe!

    O ang kapal, kapal ng mukha nila, kapal ng mukha nila, kapal ng mukha nila; ang kapal kapal kapal; ang kapal kapal kapal ang kapal ng mukha nila. Ahuh!

  45. chi chi

    Kung magra-rally ang mga militante ay magandang i-placard ang kanta na ‘iyan at ihilera sa dadaan ng mga hinayupak na mag-tiyo na Arroyo-Pidal!

  46. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    Hehehe. Naiinis si Ellen. Lalo na kung merong mga wasps in the beehive. Doon sa ibang threads, may nangpo-provoke na naman. Gustong magpasikat sa grupo ni Manolo.

  47. chi chi

    Tongue,

    Bakit, hindi pa ba siya tanggap sa grupo ni Manolo? Pang-elite lang daw ‘yon a! heheh!

  48. Mrivera Mrivera

    ch, meron bang tatanggap sa amoy suka ng lasing?

    kahit saan, sabi nga ‘nung isang nakabangga dito, kahit saan pumasok ay ipinagtatabuyan na parang me ketong dahil sa kapalaluan.

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