More updates: Search for beheaders
Now military officials are talking.
Brig. Gen. Juancho Sabban, deputy commander of the Western Mindanao Command, is denying he ordered the recall of the three aircraft sent to give support to the embattled Marines that tragic day of July 10. Fourteen Marines died in that encounter with elements of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, 10 of them beheaded.
“Marines were dying, why would I stop (the air strikes)?” said Sabban, a battle-tested officer who also heads Task Force Thunder.
Sabban added,”There was never a recall. When the aircraft were dispatched, the control was transferred to operational control. The ground commander has the control over the aircraft.”
Malaya reported Aug. 3 that “wrong radio frequency” was the reason cited why the aircraft was not able to provide air support to the beleaguered Marines. A radioman’s affidavit submitted to Lt. Col. Nestor Marcelino, operations officer of the 8th Marine Landing Battalion Team stated that “there was ‘no contact’ with the aircraft because the 1MBde gave the wrong frequency to WesMinCom which was later transmitted to the pilots.”
Our source said the standard operating procedure gives the pilots the decision to fire or not at the target if in his judgment he will not jeopardize the friendly troops on the ground.
“For two to three hours the troops were not able to establish radio contact with the aircraft hence he could not determine the location of the enemy as well as the friendly forces. The pilot on his own discretion cancelled the mission because they were running out of fuel,” the source said.
This was disputed by another military official in the report the other day of Malaya’s Victor Reyes saying that the ground forces and the pilots were communicating.
Victor’s source said, “The pilots relayed to radiomen of the brigade that they were to refuel.” It was later discovered that the sorties had been recalled and that the bombs, armed and ready, that the OV10 was carrying were dumped in the sea. The plane would be at risk of blowing up if it landed with an armed bomb.
In denying that there was a recall, Sabban, who was informed of the encounter at 4 p.m. or six hours after hostilities had started, said, “It’s a brigade operation.”
Col. Ramiro Alivio is the commander of the 1st Marine Brigade.
A military official sent us a typical Operation order covering all combat operations wherein situation (enemy forces, friendly forces), mission, execution, service support, command/control are spelled out.
He said “Just looking at the OPORD, we can pinpoint who are responsible for all the snafus: 1Mbde Cmdr (Col. Ramiro Alivio) – for gross incompetence (he is not a combat officer; he grew up in the AFP as an intelligence officer).
“Lt Gen Eugenio Cedo – gross negligence for failing to support the embattled Marines.
AFP chief Hermogenes Esperon, acting defense secretary Norberto Gonzales, and commander-in-chief Gloria Arroyo — murder: for unnecessarily exposing to danger our Marines; conduct unbecoming for preventing retaliation and telling us lies at the expense of the 14 dead Marines.”
Ellen: AFP chief Hermogenes Esperon, acting defense secretary Norberto Gonzales, and commander-in-chief Gloria Arroyo — murder: for unnecessarily exposing to danger our Marines; conduct unbecoming for preventing retaliation and telling us lies at the expense of the 14 dead Marines.”
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Why are these crooks still there? They should resign and have their salaries and pensions cut. Better still, they should be held legally responsible for their crimes and sent to jail for life. Patalsikin Na, Now Na! Coup d’etat na, puede ba?
It appears that what happens in Tipo-Tipo stays in Tipo-Tipo. Western Mindanao Command deputy commander Brig. Gen. Juancho Sabban wants closure on the issue over the failed air support and blames radio snafu. The military report is considered a whitewash or cover-up. An independent body should verify the veracity the facts as reported by the military. What closed chapter? Philippine bogus President Gloria Arroyo, AFP chief General Esperon, Brig. Gen. Juancho Sabban and Col.Ramiro Alivio are criminally responsible that lead to the death of 14 Philippine Marines due to gross negligence and incompetence. I rest my case.
Completely agree that Esperon, Sabban, Cedo and Alivio are all failures and that they should resign immediately, no ifs and buts. A commander is responsible for the unit’s successes and failures. But i really doubt if they will do it. Their great leader GMA doesn’t know the word RESIGN and so i presume these PALPAK generals follow their leader. Criminally responsible for the death of the brave marines, all of them should be facing the court martial by this time. How about switching positions with Gens Miranda, Lim, et al?
Completely agree that Esperon, Sabban, Cedo and Alivio are all failures and that they should resign immediately, no ifs and buts. A commander is responsible for the unit’s successes and failures. But i really doubt if they will do it. Their great leader GMA doesn’t know the word RESIGN and so i presume these PALPAK generals follow their leader. Criminally responsible for the death of the brave marines, all of them should be facing the court martial by this time. How about switching positions with Gens Miranda, Lim, et al?
May ilalabas bang report? I doubt it. This lowlife waste of space calling hinself Chief of Staff is bound to make it confidential, AGAIN, supported by idiots of the same snake specie, acting DND Sec and commander-in-cheap Gloria.
The orders from Wesmincom was to strike at the enemy lines, the armed bombed were proof. Whatever stopped the pilots from carrying out the orders is what made the situation worse, which led to the multiple decapitations. If the usual procedure of this bogus gov’t is to be followed, to wit: denial, non-disclosure then “let’s move on”, We will never see the end of these.
Our forces, once the envy of many countries, is likely to make #1 again in someone’s list as the most incompetent, just like everything else is, in this stolen regime.
For one thing, the beheaded marines are luckier than us. We still have to bury our heads in shame for the rest of non-lives!
If Gen.Esperon and all those failures resign their commission, there will be no more war in Mindanao, our country will be bankrupt.
War is a business. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. The bankers who financed this conflict in Mindanao made profit on the military hardware and at the same time a huge profit on the rebels who bought war gears. If anyone had the cream of the profits it was the bankers as the financier. Being partnerships rather than incorporated organizations, they do not have to report to stockholders. And their profits were as secret as they were immense.There is no use kidding ourselves any longer.
The professional soldiers and sailors don’t want to disarm. No admiral wants to be without a ship. No general wants to be without a command. Both mean men without jobs. They are not for peace. They cannot be for limitations of arms. And at all these moro-moro Vince Mc Mahon World wrestling Entertainment will always be their, lurking in the background but all-powerful, just the same, are the sinister agents of those who profit by war. They see to it that these MILF,Abu Sayyaf lost command do not disarm or seriously limit armaments. The chief aim of any power at any of these conflict has not been to achieve peace with both sides to prevent war but rather to get more armament and more “kurakot” for itself and less for any potential foe.Well, it’s corruption of Elites, all right. A big kickbacks – and the many pay. And there is no way to stop it. Read Gokusen previous post.I just made a summary based on my finite reading comprehension. Am I right!,my friend.
Ibig sabihin ay mas importante kina Gloria at Esperon ang mga MILF/MNLF/Akbar o kaysa buhay ng mga Marines soldiers. Kesehodang mamatay ang mga sundalo na parang hayop basta huwag lang magalaw ang mga maimpluwensiya sa Mindanao na pinagkakautangan ng loob ni Gloria sa kanyang pandaraya at pagnanakaw. Hanggat nakaupo si Gloria, Esperon at mga corrupt na heneral ay hindi matatalo ang mga “kalaban” sa MIndanao dahil ayaw talunin ng mga nakaupo. Kailangang “kumilos” na ang mga tunay na Marines kundi ay ipapaubos lang sila sa mga “kalaban”.
Hmmm..Cedo, Sabban, Alivio..nagtuturuan akala ko panahon lang ng hapon may makapili, noon civilian ang makapili ngayon pala mismo sa loob na at mga general ng AFP ang makapili..di ba nila alam na habang gamit nila isang daliri nila pagtuturo, eh may natitira pa sila 3 daliri na sila ang itinuturo..!
This probe will be another moro-moro excercise. The AFP led by the cheat of staff and several of his “trusted” generals will not see the light of day. It will be another Mayuga and Melo report. Sila sila lang ang nakakaalam. Besides, they can not touch their own kind. Some MILF and Abus are the allies of the rotten local officials. Maybe even the rotten cheat of staff and the bogus president. Time and again, the groups of barbaric men had shown no love for peace (this excludes those members who really wish to have peace in the region). How the charade can be stopped is a tough job! Maybe the toughest job for any leader of the Philippines can have. Tapos, nagkataon pang ang namumuno sa atin ay natulungan nitong mga bandido para umupo sa kanyang trono kaya walang magagawa itong si tiyanak kundi sunudsunoran na lang! She is a hostage to the crisis sa totoo lang. Unless the tiyanak puts up her best suit! She is known to align with the underworld characters and when she is done with them, she hangs them! Let us see what tiyanak does to avenge the death of the 14 marines!
Solving the war problem in Mindanao is like dissolving a flourishing business! And who among the corrupt generals of the most corrupt president the Philipiines ever had would ever do that! To top it all, the local officials and warlords in Mindanao will never stop the war in the region! Mawawalan din sila ng delihensiya!
Government forces have already pinpointed the areas in Basilan where the perpetrators of the beheading of the dead Marines are hiding.
“We have determined some targets, specifically those areas that are suspected to be harboring elements of the Abu Sayyaf Group and this will be our preoccupation for now. In other words, we will be hitting these targets,” said AFP chief Gen. Hermogenes Esperon Jr.
—Huh? Ngayon lang nila na determined saan lugar ang target? Eh nun pang namugot si Abu Sabaya sa Tipo-tipo alam na nila dun ang lugar ng mga Abu at di naman umaalis ang mga yun dun, nakikipag-hide n seek lang pag may opn at nakikipag-patintero sasabihin niya ngayon na-determined na nila?
All for the SONA of the tiyanak, she staged the Fr Bossi kidnap at the expense of the marines! I wonder kung nakakatulog pa itong mga walang kaluluwang mga “lider” kuno.
Luzviminda;The government will not change itself. But the people can change it. They can albeit slowly and with great suffering, stop the madness. That is the hope which we can draw from electing an honest president who has conscience.What we are witnessing from Mindanao and the barbaric beheading is frustration that has turned into anger and rage, followed by coercion and pointing fingers who has to blame in the futile military operation to cover the command unfit behavior. The power elite military should be wise enough to practice injustice uplift with regard to those pitiful low rank soldiers who find themselves on the bottom rung of the ladder, particularly foot soldiers who are without voice, given the present questionable order. It would appear that the elite “loco comanderos” would prefer to engage in a form unbearable excuses.
The ongoing war in Mindanao changed nothing—and it changed everything. Our corrupt political leaders learned little from the experience, and much of what they did learn was wrong. War has become central entertainments in their lives in Islamic region in Mindanao and the way why it is going on? The government cannot always explain. No one can understand life without understanding the war. Because of it, we will never learn.–WWNL,what do you think?
Calderon said he did not set a deadline for serving the warrants because the move would only invite extra-judicial processes and haphazard efforts.
He said the service of arrest warrants is not limited to the PNP as the AFP, local government units, barangay officials or any persons in authority can also effect arrest.
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eh san kaya ang utak nitong si calderon eh, kung yun nga daan-daan na pulis na pumunta ng Basilan para i-serve ang warrant of arrest kahit isa walang nakuha dun sa inakusahan eh,uunahin pa ba ng mga marines ang maghanap ng nasa warrant of arrest eh sa kasalukuyan galit na galit silang hinahanap ang mga namugot. bigyan pa ng karapatan ang lgu at isama na ang barrangay officials..pano sila manghuhuli eh di para nila isubo ang buhay nila dun sa mga yun na alam nilang may hawak na malalaking sandata. at binigyan lang nila ng pagkakataon lalo na ang mga nasa pulitikong pang lokal na gamitin yun laban sa mga kalaban sa pulitika at sasabihin isa yun dun sa mga john does…
Newstar Philippines, Aug. 4=10, 2007: “Wrong radio frequency not true..says Marine Commander Col. Ramiro Alivio of the lst Marine Brigade in Basilan.
Lt. Col. Jessie Bugayong commander of the Marine Landing Team 6 (MBLT6) said the report was unfair. Two of his men died in the ambush.
Lt. Col. Felix Almadrones, commander of the Marine Battalion Landing Team 8 (MBLT8) at the time of the incident said that the radio error that came out is just a tip of iceberg.
Kanino kami maniwala ngayon. Sino ba ang mas mataas ang rank ang Lt. Col. or ang Col.?
Puede ba mangyari ang scenario na ito?..sa galit ng mga sundalo instead of fighting for the pang gulo ito ang kanilang kalabanin at barilin ang mga namumuno sa kanila? They will be court martialed hindi ba?. Esperon just created five courts to handle cases..keep these courts busy kung sakali buhay pa sila…sa dami ng mga sundalo..na ma court martial..they will have their hands full..
Rose;
If the excuse is “Wrong radio frequency” that’s complete baloney. Those soldiers were properly trained. It was a total troops abandonment that warrant a court martial on the person who is in command of this operation.
Ano,ginagago nila ang tao? mga grade I at grade II ay marunong ng mag-text.
rose;
Col. is higher than Lt.Col.In the military they called that full colonel,next step is one star general.
Cocoy,
yup..galing mong mag-analyze..at ang tanong kelan at gang saan dapat tuldukan ang lahat!
cocoy,
alam ko lang star margarine, saka starry-starry night..pag dating sa general…general cleaning, general electric…
gokusen;
Magkaroon lang ng period iyang kaguluhan kung ang lahat ng mga Muslim at Kristiano sa Mindanao ay laging may maisasaing,wala ng nang-aapi at nag-papaapi.Marunong ng magbilang ang mga bata ng mas higit pa sa One,Two,Three,Four at ABCD.Hanggat hindi nangyayari iyan ay laging question mark ang marka sa test paper.
Cocoy: Thanks, kasi ang alam ko lang sa ranking in the army hanggang captain..ang sabi ng isang kaibigan ko na PMAer pag graduate daw nila ay 2nd Lt. after 4 years lst Lt. after 4 years captain..after that kumapit ka na daw sa malakas na politician at mabilis ang pagtaas mo. Ganoon ata ang ginawa ni Esperon.
Tama ka nga kung mag resign ang mga ito ngayon bankrupt ang gov’t. Hindi lang dahil sa na ubos na nilang ninakaw, in addition babayaran pa ang kanilang pension, etc. etc. If found guilty, however, wala tayong babayaran sa kanila at ibabalik pa nila ang ninakaw, hindi ba? Kailan kaya payagan si Sen. Trillanes na magtrabho sa senate?
Puede bang ma court martial si Esperon? Sa paanong paraan?
Mas mataas ang Presidente sa kanya..pero malabo mangyari. Sa ibang lugar vertical ang maglibing sa patay. I don’t wish for her to die now..(pero kung hindi siya magising sa pagtulog niya mamayang gabi ok lang) kasi curious lang kasi ako, na if she is buried vertically upside down..who is hiding behind her skirt?
The buck stops at Gloria! Lahat ng nangyari ay si Gloria ang dapat managot dahil siya ang commander -in-chief daw! Imposible na hindi nagrereport sa kanya si Asspweron, at kahit hindi ay siya pa rin ang dapat managot sa lahat ng nangyari at pagkamatay ng mga marines!
Bakitsa kaguluhan ng mga reports ng kanyang mga bata ay walang marinig sa kanyang mabahong bunganga ni hoy- hay, pontia pilata na naman!
Pambihira, ang mga sinasabi ng mga military officials ay kontra-kontra, puro sintunado pa!
“Just looking at the OPORD, we can pinpoint who are responsible for all the snafus: 1Mbde Cmdr (Col. Ramiro Alivio) – for gross incompetence (he is not a combat officer; he grew up in the AFP as an intelligence officer).
Liar! At bakit ngayon lang nila pinag-aralan ang qualification at expertise ni Alivio?! Bakit hindi bago siya ipadala sa kritikal na operasyon sa Mindanao?!
Hanep! Ang mga itinuturo nila na mga responsable sa snafus ay puro “maliliit”. Wala talagang maaasahan sa administrasyon ng reyna engkantada. Ang mga lider ay iwas-pusoy sa responsibilities pero nagpapakamatay naman na mamuno kuno ng bansa at militar!
Buti na lang at nabasa ko na ang tunay na report galing kay Gokusen. Kahit anupa ang i-Mayuga nila ay hindi na ako intresado!
I-double hung sina Gloria, Asspweron at Mongoloid Gonzales, walang kwentang mga tao (ba?), puro inutil!
Rose,
Hindi ako mabait pagdating kay Gloria, talagang ipinapanalangin ko siyang mamatay! Para sa akin ay hindi ito kasalanan kung ang kanyang pagkamatay ay para sa ikagagaling ng bayan at pinoy!
Mag-isa lang ang buhay niya kumpara sa 800 and counting na biktima ng extra-judical killings ang forced disappearances, among many of her sins against the people!
At ngayon na nangyari ang Basilan massacre, wala rin akong pakundangan na doblehin ang aking dasal na matigok ang trapolita na ito!
Palagay ko ay walang nagtatago sa kanyang skirt, kundi nandun nakatago ang mga documents ng nakaw na yaman ng mga Arroyo-Pidal!
cocoy: said “No one can understand life without understanding the war. Because of it, we will never learn.–WWNL,what do you think?
As I’ve said before I read every comment thats posted here in Elensville but you will have noticed that I’ve tried to refrain from commenting on this one.
Without wanting to insult the marines and the foot soldiers it has always been my opinion being a civilian residing on Mindanao that despite the administration voicing that the problem is ‘destablisers’ the fact of the matter is that the ‘enemy’ are not outsiders, not invaders to our shores but Filipinos albeit Muslims they are Filipinos. If crimes are being committed and no doubt about it, they, are then the PNP is mandated to deal with crime and should do so not the AFP.
Not meaning to insult because there’s no need for that. if the AFP had been already in their barracks where like any professional army they should be they the marines would not have found themselves on the recieving end of a massacre. I can repeat that the functions of the AFP and the PNP are totally diferent in that the AFP are trained to kill and the PNP are trained to presvent and detect crime.
I repeat what I’m always saying, that is to make things worse Haemorrhoid Assperon is way out of his depth and receives no respect from the rank & file.
Have we been so blind not to see this before, this Chief of Staff Haemorrhoid Assperon is a joke apart from being un-professional and a Liar. The AFP is the laughing stock of the whole world.
parasabayan said “The AFP led by the cheat of staff and several of his “trusted” generals will not see the light of day. It will be another Mayuga and Melo report.”
Your right in what you say, but are we ‘the people’ going to allow them to tell their Lies, I don’t think so.
We complain, complain and complain until something snaps somewhere and they are forced to stop their bloody Lies and exchange it for Truth & Justice. Don’t for one moment think that we are alone because we are not, the whole world is watching you Mr Haemorrhoid Assperon .
wwnl,
you hit the nail straight on its head…very well said!
what else can i say?
By-the-way Mr Haemorrhoid Assperon – see you in court!
WWNL, I love your optimism. But under tiyanak, justice is completely blind. The lower courts have time and again shown bias. The supreme court is now showing some muscles but lately it has a new comer justice and we do not know which way he leans. The scale can tip to the other side. Until this corrupt regime is purged, no matter how we make the noise, they fall on deaf ears.
I agree with you 101% that asspweron do not have the respect of the rank and file. I would like to see him in jail for life for the atrocities he has done to the soldiers who relied on his leadership and for his continued protection of the tiyanak at the expense of the lives of his men and the 800 or more extra judicial killings!
If the US, EU and all the other first world countries really want to boot out the tiyanak, they would have done so at the height of the election scandal. Why is she still in power?
wala akong gana sa topic na ito. kumukulo ang dugo ko. pati uric acid ko sumisirit sa inis!
#$@#%&^*@#$&^%$$$$ sabban and company! nasaan na ang inyong dangal? mga kalawang kayo sa kagitingan ng marines!
mga battle tested na mga inurungan ng bayag sa ilalim ng umaalingasaw na palda ni gloria?!
to my knowledge and belief and base on the facts & testimony gokusen wrote in her posts, the basilan encounter issue between the marines and lawless MILF on july 10 that left 14 marines dead and 10 of them even beheaded and mutilated is seen to have been a “pre-planned” by both gloria and assperon including their beneficiaries norberto gonzales and wahab akbar, who sacrificed the poor lives of the brutally murdered marines for the sake of self interest. hence, the issue of OPORD,SNAFU, radio frequency error, miscommunications etc. etc. whatever military SOP is it, all these are nonsense, useless and stupid ! and you can’t put the blame to anyone of those poor foot soldiers in the battle including their commanders because there is only “one” (no one else!) in-charge of command responsibilty but the commander in-chief of the AFP General Essperon from order of the inutile president.
PSB:
The court I want to see Haemorrhoid Assperon in is not a local court but a proper International Court.
We can’t expect to see the EU or UN make the first move it has to be the responsibility of the Filipino people in making the first move. If we seriously want a first world country we must have the strength of character to remove the bad eggs first and foremost, we didn’t do it did we! The changes for the better will surely follow.
The lower morale gets with the rich getting richer and the poor becoming even more poor, with hunger and school drop outs the harder it is to recover for the poor family.
We need to stop listening to her Lies and SONA dreams.
AK-47: to my knowledge and belief and base on the facts & testimony gokusen wrote in HER posts
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Sabi mo, AK-47, “her posts” in reference to Gokusen, bakit babae ba siya? Am I missing something?
We only have to look at Singapore as a country near to us, do you see the Singaporeans depending on outsiders to sort out their elected leaders. Do you really think that they would be prepared to be pushed around lied and insulted by their Justice Secretary, Security Adviser, Army Leaders lying and cheating to them, the Singaporean people.
We complain about corruption, lying, extra judicial killings, kidnap for ransom, abductions etc. but why are we accepting it as a daily occurrence – its up to us the people to stop it, the Singaporeans would – ask them!
ystakei, yes gokusen is very much a “female” according to her. any doubt?
ystakei, what about me? can you guess whether am boy or girl? sige nga kung malakas ang pang amoy mo ! hahaaha…
“Now military officials are talking.”
yes, they are. but is there anyone who shall voluntarily come forward and knife the knot to bare the whole truth?
they maybe talking, yes. but evading responsibility and accountability. poor senior peemayers. they have lost their integrity since they made themselves partner of the cheat!
Mrivera:
Thats exactly correct, these military officials are talking but refuse to take the responsibility of accountability as PMA’rs what a disgrace to their uniform and position and the PMA.
If these officers in the field are not prepared to support and tell the Truth of this massacre of ‘their’ marines do they expect ‘outsiders’ to examine the facts and report on the massacre due to their own weakness to do so. What an insult they are to the marine families and the Marine Corp.
In fact they are a disgrace to the Nation.
wwnl,
please accept: Marine Corps. dati.
ngayon, marines corpse. dahil ipinakakatay sa kalaban tapos, tatakbuhan ng pamunuan.
aray!
I had to double take on that Mrivera.
Ang isang ipinagtataka ko ay tila walang balita ukol sa mga exercise ng mga kano, balikatan kuno…Hmmm…. parang may niluluto.. Hindi kaya bigla na lang eentra ang mga kano at sasabihin kay Glueria na hindi nyo pala kaya ang kalaban nyo… subukan nyo kami, sampol lang ,kami ang huhuli dyan sa mga abu sayyaf na yan… para ano pa at magkabalikat tayo,,, sampol lang, kita nyo na 14 dedo ninyo, kaya tabi muna kayo eksena kami… Talagang nakapagtataka, 3 oras na walang kontak sa eroplano, ang ground forces, gamit ang mga radio na panahon pa ng hapon na issue. E talagang katakatakataka at mga bazooka na hindi pumuputok at m-16 na malakas pa ang utot ng kabayo. At ang isa pa anong ranggo na nangunguna sa team, baka sarhento o private, kaya naglakad na lang ng naglakad hanggang mapapunta sa teritoryo ng MILF. walang nagbibigay ng direksiyon … At baka ang mga sundalong ito ay mga Ilocano, Bicolano, at Bulakenyo na noon lang nakarating sa Mindanao… e talagang ipinapain sa patayan ang mga sundalo natin…
Leonard, the GIs have long been there in the South. I won’t even be surprised if there are already US bases disguised as housing units for these US soldiers. Weren’t there reports that the GIs accompanied the Filipino soldiers even led them in some combat operations against the enemies. Watch out: Mindanao may one day become another Afghanistan. Gokusen can share us what he knows about this.
goji,
yup may tinitirahan ang mga puti dun sa panamao, that is the house of ex-mayor and ang alam ko $1,000.00/mo ang upa nila, its in the seaside.
regarding balikatan, yup they are teaching filipino soldiers but not dun sa mga offensive ng mga pinoy, di sila humahalo at pag may mga bombahan na nililipad agad sila dun sa malagutay wherein may barracks din sila dun..
they help on construction of schools and roads, pag mag-iikot sila may kasama silang mga sundalong pinoy for their security.
dun sa basilan at kahit sa sulu o saan man magkakaroon ng putukan monitored yun ng mga puti at alam ko may mga gamit silang bago lalo na sa communication na ginagamit, lalo na yung compass na paghanap ng kalaban, sattelite cp, at mga debugger, so impossible talaga ang miscommunication..kung ipapatawag lahat yung mga marines na yun at magkakaroon ng fair investigation lalabas ang totoo…sa ngayon tutok sila dun sa massive manhunt nila dun sa mga sinasabi nilang namugot..sana nga makita nila yung mga totoong namugot ang masakit baka maling mga tao na naman ang damputin nila para lang masabi meron silang nakuha…
The AFP top brass deliberate lied in the Tipo-Tipo fiasco. They tend to blame everybody but not themselves. The corrupt Gloria Arroyo regime has been tainted with lies and cover-ups. Lies after lies crumble easily upon public scrutiny.
May bagong palusot si Assperon. Kasalan daw ng piloto dahil naubusan ng gasolina. Paano niya nalaman patapos na labanan? May ESP (six senses) ba siya? Malamang kasunsaba si Esperon sa mga rebelde. Persuasive protection daw? Ano ba talaga?
AK-47
No, lalaki ka kundi naman bakla! Kasi ang mga tunay na babae ayaw ng mga alyas na hindi exotic maliban na nga lang kung gay gaya noong nakita ko sa isang diskohan sa malapit sa amin when my transvestite brother took me to one to entertain me after a day long grieving over my aunt, who is comatose right now and reason why I am here in the US right now.
Nope, I did not come to give her care. I can afford to hire one for her as a matter of fact. Naks, ang yabang! But I won’t hire one from the Philippines. Actually, I don’t need to. She’s already in a nursing home where the caregivers are mostly Filipinos. It’s in Colma, CA, the cemetery town, and near the place where TT says the Pidals have bought another real estate.
I came because I promised to be by her side when she leaves this existence. Amazing, nag-improve ang condition niya when I came. Still hoping I guess to dance hula with me in December when I promised her I would come back.
Anyway, it does not matter whether you are a man or a woman. What matters is you are against the criminals now running the Philippines like hell, and you are for truth and justice as many of us bloggers here are. OK?
mrivera,
maraming salamat. kahit sa anong panahon at tipo, handa ako sa mga pagtutuwid kagaya ng sa kabilang sinulid (lalo na’t galing sa iyo). mabuhay kayo!
Kakasabi lang sa radyo, report ng Inspector General, mali nga raw ang radio freq nung una. Pero dahil meron namang standard freq ang Air Force, hindi nagtagal na-correct din.
Ano ngayon ang nangyari sa palusot ng mga inutil?
Meron pa, di ko alam kung nagkamali lang ng basa yung reporter: “DALAWANG METRO lang daw ang layo ng Marines sa kalaban kaya hindi naka-bomba ang mga piloto”. Ano’ng kagaguhan ‘yan, kung totoo! Kung dalawang metro lang ang distansya, e di ubusan na sana ang laban.
Hindi ko tuloy malaman kung maniniwala rin sa media agad-agad ng hindi nagve-verify. Buti na lang may blog. Baka dito pa makakuha ako ng tamang balita.
remember gracia burnham when she went back here in 2004 to testify ..it was quoted
State prosecutor Nestor Lazaro quoted Burnham as saying, “There is no collusion between the ASG [Abu Sayyaf] and the military.” Senior state prosecutor Leo Cacera followed: “Her statement in court should put everything – the matter, all doubts – to rest,” he said. It was then the turn of acting secretary Merceditas Gutierrez, who said, Burnham’s testimony, “given under oath and in open court, should clarify any misunderstanding that her book might have created”. Buoyed by the happy news, even President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo got in on the congratulatory parade, thanking Burnham for upholding “the integrity and uncommon valor of our armed forces”.
last year when Mercedita Gutierrez was being in questioned dahil dun sa reversal ng decision niya at nagkaroon ng call for her resignation and she was in the US..after couple of days the wife of dulmatin was apprehended by the military and present to the public ..yung pagkuha nila sa asawa at anak ni dulmatin ang ipinalit nilang pangtakip sa issue kay mercedita gutierrez..(ano na ang nangyari dun sa pagpapa-resign kay mercedita gutierrez)
my point here is sa bawat kapalpakan ng gobyerno ang lagi nilang pantakip ay ang issue ng mga hinahanap nilang tao sa mindanao)
American missionary Gracia Burnham returned to the Philippines last year to turn the tables on the very people who held her captive for one year in the jungles of the southern island of Basilan; the Abu Sayyaf, a group listed by the United States as a terrorist organization with ties to al-Qaeda. But when her day-long testimony at the closed-door trial was finished, the main story bannered by government prosecutors was not how she fingered the various thugs who kidnapped and murdered innocents.
The main theme the government wanted the Filipino public and the world to know was how Burnham exonerated the armed forces of the Philippines from charges she made in her 2003 book, In the Presence of My Enemies. In the book, she claimed that certain army members connived with the Abu Sayyaf to divvy up millions of dollars in ransom money the group had raised through their kidnapping sprees. It was a stinging charge that to this day has caused embarrassment and denial among the army and the government, and resulted in nodding heads from a public that has long suspected corruption at the top of their armed forces.
The press might have gone on “quoting” Gracia Burnham, and the government would surely have let them, had it not been for one enterprising reporter from a local television station. He just happened to chance on the judge’s staff while they were reviewing a videotape of the proceedings. In that tape, the reporter noticed that Burnham never said anything that the government claimed she had said. Several times while on the stand, Burnham was asked by defense lawyers if she thought there was “connivance” between the military and Abu Sayyaf. Even before she had a chance to answer, the three government prosecutors stood up and made objections to the question, all of which the judge immediately sustained.
While Burnham was prohibited from speaking with the press and was quickly whisked out of the country, her book gives the real answers to the questions asked. Overall, the book is a harrowing and spellbinding first-hand account of her and her husband Martin’s year in captivity at the hands of the Abu Sayyaf. The couple had spent 15 years performing missionary work in remote corners of the Philippines and decided to celebrate their 18th wedding anniversary with a vacation at the luxury resort Dos Palmas on Palawan island. They were seized on May 28, 2001, along with 20 other hostages, and taken 400 kilometers across the open ocean to the bandits’ island lair of Basilan. One year later, in a botched rescue attempt by the Philippine armed forces, Gracia was freed, while Martin and a Filipino nurse who had also been taken hostage were killed in the crossfire.
The book is a must-read for anyone who wants an insider’s look at how one particular fundamentalist terrorist group operates first hand. Having lived a miserable year with the group in the forbidding jungles, she describes every detail of how the Abu Sayyaf operates, and the circumstances in which they function; the cold-blooded brutality of her captors, the hypocrisy of their religious beliefs, and how the group used their religion as a mere veneer in order to get millions of dollars in ransom.
When the book came out in 2003, it became an instant best seller throughout the Philippines. But its riveting blow-by-blow account of life with murderous bandits was not the only reason the book created a stir. What really caught Filipinos’ attention were the several passages where Gracia writes of what many Filipinos had suspected all along; the hefty amount of ransom that made its way into the hands of the Abu Sayyaf in exchange for the freedom of some hostages, and, more importantly, how the Abu Sayyaf often works in connivance with certain members of the army in raising and sharing that ransom.
On pages 222-223, Gracia writes about how, after months on the run and being exhausted and hungry, the group’s food supply suddenly changed for the better. “The armed forces were feeding us!” she writes. “A group of them [army] met our guys [Abu Sayyaf] and handed over quantities of rice, dried fish, coffee and sugar. This happened several times over the course of a few weeks. Why in the world did President Arroyo’s troops provide the Abu Sayyaf with their daily bread? We were told that it was because Sabaya [the Abu Sayyaf’s spokesman] was wheeling and dealing with the AFP [army] general of that area over how to split up any ransom that might be paid. Arlyn de la Cruz [a television reporter from Manila who had managed to find the group to do a story] had warned us about that. ‘You know, this is going to be a really big deal,’ she [Arlyn] said, ‘and everybody is going to expect their share’,”
Burnham writes. “Sabaya was willing to give the general 20% of the action. But the messenger reported back that this wasn’t enough. The general wanted 50% – when his own government steadfastly condemned the ransom concept altogether.”
Burnham also writes in detail of the infamous Lamitan Hospital siege, still highly controversial today. In this incident, the Philippine military had the entire group surrounded – along with their hostages – after they took refuge inside a hospital in the small Basilan town of Lamitan. Burnham writes that after a night-long gun fight, a jeep filled with high-powered guns and ammunition pulled up outside the hospital entrance and out jumped several cohorts of the Abu Sayyaf. The newcomers explained they were able to get through the cordon by telling the soldiers they were the bodyguards of the provincial governor. The provincial governor, it turns out, was one of the founders of the Abu Sayyaf who had had a falling out with the group. Then the inexplicable happened. The military pulled its troops out from behind the hospital and soon after, the Abu Sayyaf along with its hostages and new weapons, was able to escape.
(..the governor that time is Sakur Tan…and now he again
back to the limelight as sulu governor)
The Lamitan siege was one of the centerpieces of the Senate’s hearings in 2002 into the charges of collusion. A former hostage testified that he was released because ransom was paid and that certain high-ranking military members were involved. Twenty-seven residents from Basilan testified as well. Most claimed there was collusion between the military and the Abu Sayyaf. The Senate report concluded the same. “The Senate committees,” the report stated, “are of the belief that, indeed collusion between some officers of the AFP and the ASG exists.” They concluded that there was “strong circumstantial evidence”, and recommended that the Department of Justice and the Ombudsman conduct further investigation into the charges. The Senate also recommended that the three officers linked to the charges be court martialled
To this day, however, despite the Senate’s recommendations, no charges have been brought against the officers. Clearly, the behavior of the government only creates more questions than it answers. Why is the Philippine government acting as a defense lawyer for its own military and not trying to get to the bottom of these serious allegations? And if there were some members of the military colluding with the Abu Sayyaf group, then shouldn’t they be among the defendants? How much power does the military hold over what is supposedly a democratic civilian government?
These questions are not just important to Filipinos, but should also alert the rest of the international community to the muddled and complicated situation that exists in the southern Philippines. After September 11, 2001, Arroyo, who was installed as president due mostly to a military-backed coup in January of that year, was one of the first to stand up and declare her support for America’s newly declared “war on terrorism”. She even went so far as to declare the Philippines full of terrorists, specifically the Abu Sayyaf. This led to her bringing in the American military to help train the Philippine military to defeat the Abu Sayyaf.
For many Filipinos, though, the Abu Sayyaf isn’t a terrorist group. They are a bunch of murderous thugs who use Islam as a shield to justify their existence and raise tons of cash. They are no different than any of the many other kidnap-for-ransom gangs that exist in various places in the Philippines, but mostly the southern island of Mindanao.
The idea that certain members of the military hierarchy may be profiting from the murder and kidnapping of innocent civilians, while underpaid and under trained foot soldiers do all the fighting and dying, is a scandal most Filipinos want to solve. The Senate has said it now wants to reopen the investigation into this alleged collusion. The government of Arroyo, however, has said that to go back and reinvestigate would be like beating a dead horse. Which, for most ordinary Filipinos seems quite unfortunate. For if the allegations are true, and most believe they are, then the existence of the Abu Sayyaf cannot just be explained by simply calling them “terrorists” and blaming their actions on Osama bin Laden. Their existence is a reflection of those whom they claim to do battle against.
Talking about media, Nicodemo Ferrer, the redneck commissioner who earlier seemed very eager to engage the slimy leech Bedol in a shootout duel, announced that the Comelec may file ELECTION SABOTAGE against two media biggies, not against the same Garci avatar who manufactured, then lost, COCs in his possesion paving way for the victory of the SeNaytor Lady from Maguindanao. Bedol is a freeman after posting a P15,000 bail. There folks, is Abalos’ legacy!
Tribue’s top story tells all.
Inquirer, has a more gut-wrecking headline: “Bedol offers help to reform polls”
Wow!
In other words, the problem is home-grown, an ugly representation of the breakdown of law and order, the responsibility for which can only be placed at the front door of the Philippine government.
— pasencya na sa haba ha kasi i dig out my research paper work and i remember this one i’ve got .. Philippines on Trial over Hostage Tale
By Leslie Davis in Manila / asiatime online…
i need to correct this…(..the governor that time is Sakur Tan…and now he again
back to the limelight as sulu governor)
lamitan is in Basilan..the governor then is Wahab Akbar who is now the Congressman of Basilan, and his wife is the governor an unluckily his 3rd wife who ran as lamitan mayor failed to get the position…)
Gokusen, that was great! Most of us here in Manila may not be as focused as you are because we have not been directly affected by whatever shenanigans the Abus have been plotting in collusion with our own generals, but these stories you keep telling us speaks volumes of our indifference, maybe due to the hopelessness that these twin menaces of the acting cast on both sides of this unending war-based reality show, intends to keep it long enough to beat Days of Our Lives as the longest running soap of all time!
Now It’s very clear why a certain Antonio Trillanes IV needs to move heaven and earth to make it to his seat in that chamber. His presence there would destroy the plot of that perpetual reality show that has, and is, raking in a lot of moolah for its producers and directors.
Even Jerry Bruckheimer’s brightest writers can’t make a script stupid enough for his viewers yet make the same kind of profit at a very minimal cost – which sometimes include sacrificng the cheap lives of some innocent footsoldiers and noisy civilians – to ensure the sponsors’ money continues to flow generously for a long, long time.
Is the final episode airing soon?
Gokusen, WOW, your revelations are explosive stuff. I wonder who the generals are who are involved in the kidnap for ransom operations. I did not know any of these stuff prior but my hunches were right that somehow the military found a way to make business out of the Mindanao operations. Golly, if they wish to retire in style, there is no way they can do that unless they have other sources of hefty income! The dollar or euro loot must be lining up their pockets!
No wonder Akbar can afford several wives and in politics too! Just to run for office costs tons of dough!
No wonder the crooked military officers and those in power in the Abu and MILF turfs do not want the war to end!
Just read that one of the mutilators surrendered to the authorities. Of course this is another scene from a play. Then this villain will be in jail kuno and later on there will be a jail break and he will be freed. This is almost the Standard Operating Procedure of the processing of these hoodlums. We do not even know if the “surrenderee” is for real!
gokusen, you shared with us a very interesting story about the truth and facts of “kidnapped for ransom” business by the arroyo government. you’re not such a great researcher but a wildlife-like hunter for truth and justice. i wish and pray you would come out (without fail) with faith and courage to put an end the never-ending miseries of our dying filipino people. thanks & god bless !
AK47,
thanks..i’m counting on you..di nga ba may kasabihan everyone of us has a purpose why she/he exist in this world..sometimes di natin pansin na akala natin walang maliit na bagay lang ang “tuldok” pero malaking bagay pa lang ang kabuluhan ng “tuldok” sa buhay ng isang tao…
tamang panahon, tamang oras….may lalabas para maliwanagan ang lahat ng bagay…di kinakailangan maging matapang sa paglalahad ng sensitibong bagay kundi “determinasyon” para mapagpatuloy ang kaalaman at matuldukan ang pangungusap at pagtatanong ng bawat nilalang…tungo sa ibayong kapayapaan.
Gokusen: For many Filipinos, though, the Abu Sayyaf isn’t a terrorist group. They are a bunch of murderous thugs who use Islam as a shield to justify their existence and raise tons of cash. They are no different than any of the many other kidnap-for-ransom gangs that exist in various places in the Philippines, but mostly the southern island of Mindanao.
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Thanks, Gokusen, for confirming what I already know. Kaya nga matagal ko nang sinasabing dapat mga pulis, local and NBI ang mamahala sa mga tulisang iyan e. Ganyan din iyong mga tulisan at smugglers sa Mindanao noong araw nang maliit pa ako.
In fact, my uncle, who was dark, tall and handsome at nakakahawig ni Toshiro Mifune, appeared in a Philippine movie titled “Kontrabando.” He never actually gained stardom, because he left for the USA as he opted to be a US citizen like his other siblings when the Philippines was granted its independence.
Even in the 50’s, smuggling and pirating in Mindanao especially in Sulu were widely publicized, and inspired a lot of movies with such theme. Iyong tawagin ang mga tulisan na terrorists in fact is a misnomer. Hindi na lang sabihin mga tulisan at mandarambong!!! Pinapaganda pa ang tawag. Sosyal!
Gokusen,
I was told in 2002 or 2003 about how Senator Magsaysay was sent to Mindanao to investigate about the rumored sharing of ransom money between the Abus and the military that they could take their hostages with them from Palawan to hiding places in Mindanao. Walang nangyari, and my informer suspected that he agreed to cover up for those involved in the military, sa utos na rin siguro noong inutil sa Malacanang.
Matagal ko na rin narinig ang mga nabanggit mong incidents kaya naniniwala ako sa sinasabi mo. If that is not graft and corruption, incompetence, inadequacy, negligence, etc., what is? Ang dali naman ma-detect sa totoo lang, kaya lang nga may lagayan, lusutan, etc. diyan. Kaya iyong mga kriminal nawiwili talaga.
Sayang talaga ang Mindanao. Mayaman sana ang Pilipinas kung marurunong talaga ang mga nagpapalakad ng bansa, hindi iyong puro yabang lang! Nakakai-Yuck!!!
gokusen,
you’re right, we only need a single clear small “period” to end a sentence. otherwise, it would become infinite. yes, we don’t need to be as brave as that just to impress people when we speak out of the truth, rather determination.
Yuko,
Yup, I think that’s during Sept. 2001 were Senate set to conclude their investigation on the alleged collusion between the Abu Sayyaf and certain military officers during a controversial siege in the southern island of Basilan. At kasama dun si Kiko Pangilinan, that was after Fr. Roman Catholic priest Cirilo Nacorda in Lamitan town in Basilan accused five military officers of pulling out troops to let the Abu Sayyaf bandits escape from a surrounded hospital in the town with their hostages on June 2 in exchange for a share of ransom for the hostages.
Those accused, including a brigadier general, have denied the allegations.
Pangilinan said there were “interesting developments” in the past two hearings as to whether or not ransom was paid for the release of three hostages and if the escape of the bandits was a result of either “a tactical error or a deliberate move” by the military.
Witnesses presented by Nacorda have testified that ransom was paid for the “release” of the three hostages and that the military allowed the Abu Sayyaf bandits to flee with the rest of the hostages. The circumstances in the reported escape of the three became the focus of the Senate and House investigations.
Senator Ramon Magsaysay, head of the senate national defense committee probing the allegations, said in a television interview that he had found “strong evidence” to support the allegations. “I am afraid we might even go for a court martial,” he said.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo refused to comment on the Senate and House investigations at a press conference she lamented that the ongoing probes were “demoralizing the military.”
PSB,
di kami naniniwala na sumuko yun, sa muslim di sila susuko sa kanilang pakikidigma ng ganun-ganun lang dahil nga part ng jihad nila yun eh…at pag sila napagbintangan di na yun para magpaliwanag pa..mamumundok na lang yun at sasama dun sa mga nasa bundok…
sa abu mayroon dun na kaya lang din sumama sa grupo ay biktima ng mga pangyayari, marami na rin ang gustong umalis kaso nga lang alam na nila ang mangyayari kapag sila umalis sa grupo..wanted na sila sa govt pati sa mga kasamahan nilang abu..
Today’s news is that one suspect in the Basilan Marines’ killings has voluntarily surrendered. I can smell another fall guy. Why would he surrender and the rest don’t? The heat is too much for AFP and this Arroyo government so they must look for a fall guy. This guy would start pointing fingers and tell names who will never get caught. Then, the incident would disappear and media would not talk about it no more like the many past cases. We’ve seen this happening over and over again!
gokusen,
ang mga kabataang naengganyong sumama sa abu sayyaf ay dahil sa kahirapan ng buhay at kaapihang dinanas sa kamay ng mga nagtatapangtapangang abusadong pulis at sundalo. habang ang namamayani sa bawat sulok ng tiwaling administrasyon ang mga ganid ay patuloy ang daloy ng pagsapi sa alinmang grupong ang pinagkakitaan ay kidnap-for-ransom at pangungulimbat.
latest update…
Basilan : The Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) has agreed to reposition its forces in Basilan to give way to the ongoing operations of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) against members of the Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
As of last night, the AFP had subjected at least two villages, Baguindan and Silnagkom, both in Tipo-Tipo with savage 105mm bombardment and some of the bombs were falling into MILF positions. This alarmed the MILF fighters thinking that they are really the target of the military operations.
Sulu:
Latest this afternoon hundreds of Abu from Indanan fights with the militaries, 9 died in militaries and none in Abu, and take note..nasira pa ang tangke ng mga militar…lots are wounded..
May mga bumaba na rin sa town sa Jolo na mga Abu at marami na ring ulo ng mga civilian ang nakukuha kung saan-saan patunay na naghahasik ng katatakutan sa mga civilian…nangangatok sa mga bahay at namumugot ng ulo..habang nakatingin at nakasubaybay tayo sa labanan sa Basilan mas malawak ang ginagawang pangugulo at pananakot ng mga ito sa Sulu…na kung saan maluwag nilang magagawa ito dahil kakaunti na lang ang bilang ng mga naiwang militar sa sulu
Mrivera,
si Albader Parad is only 23 years old at siya ngayon ang pinaka-berdugong lider ng abu at kilalang mamumugot ng ulo nang-hostage…mas kinatatakutan siya ngayon kaysa dun sa may idad ng lider tulad nila Isnilon Hapilon na taga Basilan ,Radulan Sahiron sa Patikul…
Gokusen,
Para iyang Lamitan siege, kung kailan sukol na ang kalaban, saka iiwan para makatakas. Nagbawas na ng puwersa sa Sulu at dinala sa Basilan, ayun laking tuwa ng Abu Sayyaf, naka harvest na naman sila ng mga armalites! Naka sampu na naman silang napatay.
Kawawa talaga ang mga abang sundalo. Ipinapapatay na lang ng walang kwentang mga heneral. Sampung pamilya na naman ang magdurusa sa walang katapusang reality war show!
gokusen, kinikilabutan ako sa latest news update mo na marami ng ulo ng mga civilan ang napugutan ng mga abusayyaf. ganun ba talaga kasama ang mga abu? grabe !
sa nangyayaring paghahasik ng lagim ng ASG sa jolo, lumalabas na INUTIL ang PNP at ang intelligence collection ng AFP.
kungsabagay ay hindi na dapat pagtakhan dahil iba ang ipinaglalaban ng MNLF at MILF kaysa ASG na kilalang naghahasik ng terorismo. nabubuhay sila sa pangungulimbat, pagkidnap at pagpatay sa kawawang mga walang malay.
subalit bigyang pansin din na hindi magtatagal at magiging ganitong pusakal ang ASG kung walang mga opisyal ng gobyerno na nagbibigay sa kanila ang proteksiyon na sa kanila ay nakikinabang kapag merong pagkakakuwartahan.
Re Tongue’s comment: “Kakasabi lang sa radyo, report ng Inspector General, mali nga raw ang radio freq nung una. Pero dahil meron namang standard freq ang Air Force, hindi nagtagal na-correct din.”
Tongue, that’s also the info I got. Wrong frequency was wrong in the beginning but it was later on resolved. But at that time they were already running out of fuel. In this instance, Esperon is correct.
I was told the helicopter’s fuel is only good for two hours. They came from Jolo. so nabawasan na. So they were in the encounter area for more than one hour.
They should come out officially with the Inspector General’s report so the public will know the truth and those who were responsible for the debacle would be made acountable.
The one we got (on the wrong radio frequency and only six rounds ammunition for Howitzer) was just a portion of the report.
Ellen,
here’s another version of the disaster:
1. Disastrous Operation
a. During the ambush and subsequent firefight, the beleguered troops contacted and asked 1MBde for artillery support that was promptly delivered. Six 105 rnds were shot. Nothing followed. The troops were left alone to survive.
b. 1MBde requested for air support from WestMinCom. The latter directed the CASAF (airforce) to dispatch for close-air and bombing operation which never materialized.
2. Militics in the bungled Operation
a. Somebody informed Sec Norberto Gonzalez and Gen Dolorfino of the ongoing incident. Gonzales told Dolorfino to control the situation.
b. Gen Dolorfino called up Gen Sabban (acting Westmincom) to halt the offensive but the latter denied the pleadings. Sabban is a marine. Thus Gen Dolorfino called up directly the CASAF to abort the air support by-passing the WestMinCom. Dolorfino insisted that since he is the chairman of CCCH, all operations in MILF areas should be his call. The choppers were ordered to return to their base by their commander.
The following day, Norberto Gonzales flew to Basilan and talked to Akbar.
Then Lies followed.
The only truth is 14 Marines were dead. Just like that.
By the way, Dolorfino was offered the WestCom post in Palawan. He prefers the Commandant PMar post.
Sabban will be the deputy cmdnt PMar.
Sabban knew who recalled the air support.
But they chose to shut their mouths rather than get the ire of their idol-assperon.
Spy, yes, these generals will shut up for a juicier position. Who taught them this? None other than the tiyanak and asspweron- the masters of deception!
Thanks, Spy. A young Marine officer mentioned Dolorfino’s name to me as the one who gave the order limiting the ammunition to six rounds because they consider the MILF “friendly forces.” Thanks for the additional info.
ellen,
ask ko lang, how does our soldiers identify the “friendly forces” MILF? do they (MILF) have any “dress codes” designed by gloria and esperon for identity? thanks.
Tanong natin kay Dolorfino or Norberto Gonzales.
ellen,
okay thanks.