By Sheryll Mundo, ABS-CBN News
A female staff from the Clinton Foundation shouted at Vice-President Jejomar Binay and asked him to leave a VIP area where former US President Bill Clinton was staying before his speech at the Manila Hotel.
Binay said he was shooed away by the staff from the VIP holding area where Clinton would wait before speaking at the Manila Hotel forum entitled “Embracing Our Common Humanity.”
“Sabi ko lang (I said) you’re ordering us to leave the room, but don’t shout. You know I happen to be the Vice President of the Republic of the Philippines,” the vice president recounted saying to the female staff.
Binay said that he obediently exited the VIP room and that the female staff immediately apologized to him.
“Sabi ko OK lang. Kailangan titindig tayo at punahin iyon (I told her it was OK. We should stand up and call their attention to their mistakes also),” the vice president added.
He added that Filipinos should always hold their heads high especially when they are being mocked and disrespected. “Sana lagi taas noo tayo kapag tayo minamata o hindi ginagalang,” he said.
A staff from the Office of the Vice President said that they will write a letter to the Clinton Foundation to seek clarification on the incident.
The staff said they made arrangements with the US Secret Service for the presence of Binay at the event.
The Clinton Foundation staff member who shouted at the Vice-President said she was not informed by the US Secret Service about the arrangements made for Binay.
Ugali-asal talaga…imagine, VP ng Pinas sigaw-sigawan at palayasin sa VIP room?
Kita nýo Folks…sa sarili nating bansa e akala mo kung sino sila, wala silang respeto e sila ang visitors sa ating bansa…dapat bigyan ng leksyon ang mga damuho na yan.
Akala nitong staff ni Clinton e nasa America sila…dapat sabunin ang babaeng yan walang MODO…ugali-asal, ibig sabhin kung kaya nilang gawin sa pangalawa sa pinakamataas na namummuno sa bansa ang nangyari kay VP Binay e paano na tayong ordinaryong Pinoy?
i’m not trying to defend no one here, Binay included nor the Clinton staff, but it’s a given for current and former US Presidents na heavy talaga ang security and I will give the benefit of the doubt dun sa staff ni Clinton that they knew who should be at the holding area. they’ve been doing this forever. they know what to do.
now, why Binay was at the VIP holding area was not really clear, i’m sure lahat sila will have to be cleared muna by the the secret service. saaten naman kasi, pag official ka, they expect the world to know who they are. eh kung hindi kilala like what i think happened here? if Binay was properly recognized, i’m sure hindi naman siguro sisigawan yong tao. hindi naman nang-babastos ang mga merkano esp sa mga state visits
Staff member lang yan ng Clinton Foundation ha! Said, she was not informed by the Clinton’s SS re Binay’s presence. Who is she to be informed e basta nandun at nakalagpas sa SS ni Clinton meant pinayagan.
Very plain looking kasi si Binay at baka dami pang bodyguards kaya siguro nagkaganun. Anyway, Clinton’s staff should have inquired about the presence of the dark entity there or directly asked him ‘who are you?’ rather than generalizing that everyone whose face she doesn’t like is there to mess up the event.
Sa sarili nating bansa binabastos tayo ng mga banyaga! This is not acceptable!
This is not acceptable indeed! If it was a Filipino staff who made this kind of mistake against americans I’m sure she’ll get a ton of bricks worth from fellow pinoys, especially from pinoys who have have made american ass licking their mission in life…
…you know, the ones who after offering their behinds to hairy joe, smiles and says out loud “thunk you suh, may i have anutha?”
I expect someone in america to defend americans in one way or another, tama man o mali.
The staff should get more training in foreign diplomacy! my lord! if we reacted to the “wine sucks” comment like it was a national disaster this is a million times worst! oh, but we love the americans than we love our fellow pinoy…too bad…
my god! clinton is surrounded by juveniles! maybe she is just an “intern” too? lets post her picture on the internet! she should be taught a lesson, like monica, she should learn when to keep her mouth shut!
well, what we are hearing here is the side of VP Binay, why not wait for the other side to give the full account of the event before we can give our loonies worth. sometimes we jump too soon only to find out the water too cold for comfortable swim…
well, pinoys have been historically been selling out to americans…remember gregorio del pilar?
“remember tirad pass?!”
But anyways, Ms Belinda Stronach has not denied yet when asked if she had been dating Bill…The Twice divorced mother, MP and was also a girlfriend of now Defense Minister Elmer MacKay, (now dating an Iranian born runner up to miss World Ms World Canada, an activist herself, license pilot at 17,wow, beauty and brain and a university degree, just the rumour, just the current rumour) and also the other woman in the scandal public divorce of a Hockey Star…yes Billy, Ms Stronach said she not use of staying home knitting on Friday nights…you very naughty, naughty…
“clinton’s intern sucks” – tweet that!
One thing about Americans, they are as compassionate as they are also arrogant. For all the good that America stands, it is a fact that America is a bully.
America respects more those people/nations who fought her during the past wars(Germany, North Korea, Italy, Japan, Vietnam, etc) and those nations whose ideologies differ from theirs. A good example is Fidel Castro. For all the Americans’ hatred for the bearded one, Americans regard the Cubans to high esteem.
But once one kisses their ass especially for a very long time, they forever look down on you………….even as one is an ALLY.
One does not earn the Americans’ respect by forever patronizing them.
jawo, I agree! Balewala lang tayo sa kanila because our leaders proved to be US aliping saguiguilid forever, that’s how US interpret an “ally” in us.
Thirty seconds:
Binay could have taken 30 seconds to stand his ground. The first 15 seconds is where Binay instructs one of his protocol-aides to ask, the last 15 seconds — Binay protocol-aide going to the Clinton-staff member to ask Why since Binay is Vice President and arrangements had been made.
“if Binay was properly recognized, i’m sure hindi naman siguro sisigawan yong tao.” – Reyna Elena
So OK lang sigawan basta hindi VP or gov’t official?
#15, we don’t know really what drove that Clinton staff to make sigaw to Binay. My point, if she knew na VP pala yong pinapaalis nya, i’m pretty sure she would not do what she did. understand that they’ve been doing this over and over and over.
Now, to your question: “So OK lang sigawan basta hindi VP or gov’t official?” pag matigas ang ulo and you really want to deliver your message, why not? Hindi ba what that Clinton staff did was very Filipino anyway?
Ang alam ko ang karamihan sa mga Pilipino ay mabait at magalang lalo na sa kanilang mga bisita. Maybe you were referring sa maliit na bilang ng mga Pilipino na arogante at feeling dayuhan ang utak.
Binay reacted well. Also, Clinton’s stuff apologized right away. It was an honest mistake. She was just doing her job.
Hindi siguro makapaghintay … palibhasa Vice President kaya gusto niyang maka-una …. yon napahiya. Pinoy style kasi laging nakikipag-unahan. Namba-braso ika nga. Sa Amerika wala yan …. kung pila … pila … tiis ka. Kahit sa traffic .. sa America … walang gitgitan o unahan … sa atin ano????????
“She was just doing her job.” — NFA
Tama ka Igan. Simpleng simple lang. Disiplina lang ang kailangan.
noong nag salita ang isang tauhan ni P-Noy tungkol sa wine ng Vietnam at ang looks ng mga Vietnam men…sabi natin walang asal..totoo mali ang ginawa niya..buti, itim, yellow or purple man…ang magandang asal ay for all of us…kung buti man siya…kahit na matangos ang ilog niya hindi tama ang ginawa niya…at sa ating bayan pa? kung Pilipina siya mas lalong kahiyaya ang ginawa niya…we have to be kind to all including animals….
Iba naman kasi ang ginawa nitong Mislang na kababayan natin Igan …. labas naman sa trabaho niya kasi. Trabaho lang yon dito sa isa at kahit nagkamali siya …. nag-sorry naman siya agad.
The whole scenario have shown, there is no “perfection” in this world ( kahit na anong talino-dunong, kapangyarihan, karanasan, etc…). We are all subjected to ERRORS or mistakes, the bottom line of learning or education. Humility and open-universal mind is the need of the time. With the above postings, I like #s 6, 2, 8, 15, 18, and 19…# 8 has the best setting of the mind, very open. One of the “negative” cultures that we should avoid is Jumping too soon to a conclusion, without analysis of other factors affecting the general situation ( overall ). Prejudging is not a good thing to arrive into conclusion. This is risky and dangerous ( this what happened during the Manuel Quezons, challenge of independence for the Philippines. He favored more of running the country like HELL,… and we got it…etc..). The greatest book on earth thought also about prejudging…sabi nga ng # 22 “trabaho lang yon,sa isat-isa ( THE vp AND THE protocol of the US staff ), umaray !!!naman agad-agad, for correction, and immediately, nag-sorry naman din, bakit pinalalaki pa natin ang issue ?…di na ba tayo tatanda at mamamatay ( to live forevermore)?..fault findings is always the cause of irritation and resistance. Its better to be always having a broad minded personality….my food for thought.
Apology was not enough. I think a diplomatic complaint should be filed. These arrogant Americans should be taught a lesson for disrespecting a Vice President of the Philippines right in our own land.
I don’t know if the female staff was white or African American. But it doesn’t matter. May kausap akong isang kaibigan kailan lang at sabi niya sa akin ang Amerika daw ang pinaka-racist na bansa sa buong mundo.
On a lighter note, Vice Binay could have been mistaken as an ordinary man due to his look. Di kasi mukhang Vice President. I’m reminded of similar incident that happened to then Vice President Estrada in the US. I think he was treated not well by the US Secret Service.
If the above incident happens to an American official, what do you think’s gonna happen? Let’s say US Vice President Biden was yelled at by a Filipino staff.
MALI: Nasa VIP holding area si Binay na hindi naman dapat
TAMA: Trabaho lang, pinalabas ng staff ni Clinton sila Binay
MALI: Pasigaw ang ginawang pagpapalabas ng staff ni Clinton kay Binay
TAMA: Mahinahong sumagot at nanindigan si Binay
TAMA: Nagpaumanhin ang staff ni Clinton
TAMA: Tinangap ni Binay ang paumanhin
ayun.. tama na lahat.. so okay na tayo ha… kaya TAMA na… 🙂
“She was just doing her job.” — NFA
She could do her job without shouting. Did she not anticipate that the Manila Hotel VIP room is an area for Very Important People only and there was no need to shout? Dapat alam nya beforehand na mga pinaka-importanteng tao ang nandyan who would like to shake hands, or just see the famous Billy boy.
Cleared naman si Binay ng US Secret Service, nagkarun lang miscommunication ang staff ni Clinton at bodyguards. Hahaha!
Lesson: Basta nasa iba kang pamamahay, magtuto kang gumalang kahit hindi ka si Miss Lang! 🙂
may inaapi na naman daw????? wala na bang bago diyaan???? inaapi na lang ba lagi??? hahahhahhaha
Our leaders in general always cry for respect and yet they themselves and their actions in many cases don’t always reflect respect of their own.
Foreigners always think they are better than us in our home. Could be true because they can see what many of our leaders do to many of us…never mind the country but ourselves!
For our leaders, you reap what you sow, always is!
Bill Clinton suggested for our brothers and sisters OFW to be invited back and work here at home. He thought that they can help build this country. I certainly agree with him, problem is our own government, lalo na yung nakaraan, does not know what to do kasi ang nasa isisp nila ay dilihensiya and prefers OFW to stay where they are and just send the money!
tulong-tulong!!!!!!! inaapi daw kami???? bwuahahahahhaha… rally bukas ulit sa embassy!!!!!!!!!! bwuahahahahah
So, alam na natin ang pakiramdam ng mainsulto. Kung anu-ano ng salitang pambugaw langaw ang inabot at aabutin nitong hayupak na aide ni “I did not have sex with that woman.”
Ano kuro ni PeNoy diyan, “okay lang it was only a mistake?” Or dahil may inaasahang tulong ang pinas e baka kiss the butt kaya – hehehe.
Tanungin kaya si Mislang kung ano dapat gawain. Remember may experience siya sa pambabastos. Baka sabihin pa kamo na ganoon ang nangyari dahil di pogi si Binay. Uy, class ba red and white wine diyan? At okay ba mga chicks diyan para kay, “I did not have sex with that woman!
Those were nice words coming from Billy…”invite back pinoys” to work in the country. “He thought that they can help build this country” (olan)
If Clinton could do employment wonders today, he would have done it in his homeland, not anywhere else.
Marunong talagang mambola itong si Bill, but still nice of him to visit Pinas without seeing Gloria Arroyo on the sides.
@isagani: hahahahhah…wala na tayong pakialam sa sex life niya dati bilang pangulo, di ako maka clinton pero naiintindhihan ko na problema nila ni Hilary Iyan…Ang dapat mong pansinin, yung insulto ginawa sa mga Pinoy sa Hong kong! lalo na nung matapos yung 8-23 hostage crisis…. buwhahahhahah…reklamo tayo yang kasi may TRAVEL WARNING na pinatupad ang USA pero ang HONGKONG, nagpatupad ng TRAVEL BAN! malaki pinag kaiba ng travel warning sa travel ban diba? hahahahhahah…
#2 now, why Binay was at the VIP holding area was not really clear, i’m sure lahat sila will have to be cleared muna by the the secret service. saaten naman kasi, pag official ka, they expect the world to know who they are. eh kung hindi kilala like what i think happened here? if Binay was properly recognized, i’m sure hindi naman siguro sisigawan yong tao. hindi naman nang-babastos ang mga merkano esp sa mga state visits.
Binay being in the VIP is the problem of the secrete service not Binays. I believe what Binay related and have no doubt that what he said indeed happened.
I know for a fact that there are many uneducated Americans, probably as many Pinoys. Yes, I also know for a fact that there are many rude Americans in the State Dept., especially the low ranking ones.
Tama si Binay Pinoys should hold their heads high and support one another. I absolutely have no doubt that this Clinton aide yelled at Binay.
diplomatic complaint? pwde ba yun? wala na sa gobyerno si Bill Clinton..
@isagani: mas marami pang chinese ang nang-aapi ng mga pinoy….hhehhehe.. di lang yelled ang nangyari,’kulang pa sa sweldo, panay sapak pa naabot” paano kasi, sasabihin lang ng Chinese, “you are pilipino and you are just our slaves”…bwuahaahha… sa AMerica, maraming pinoy na talagang nakamit ang American dreams kapantay ng mga puti or kung hindi naman, na higitan pa…. Yang aide ni Bill Clinton na tinutokoy mo siguro, sigurado ako di na mula sa State Department ang iyan, kundi aktibong empleyado mula sa Clinton Foundation…The only thing US government agency involved with that visit, is the US secret service….
@perl: ang sasabihin lang ni Pnoy tungkol sa complaint na iyan, REVIEW! hahahhahah
martin,
bakit naman nasama si Pnoy dyan? iintindihin pa ba ng presidente ang ganyang kababawan.. hindi nga nagaksaya oras ang presidente para magpunta dyan sa event ni Clinton.. kahit si VPBinay.. tingin ko hindi na palalakihin yan issue na yan… tapos na yan…
“Embracing Our Common Humanity” pa pala ang topic ng speech ni Clinton. How ironic na ang simula sa vice president pa naman ng pinas ay:
ALIS DIYAN!
@Isagani: problema na ng Clinton Foundation iyan…. Hindi ng United States Of America….@ perl: sabi ko lang, baka masabi ni Pnoy na e review ulit kung mag complaint, eh alam mo naman siya, lahat ng conclusio, lahat pinareview…hehehhehe
@ isagani: mas matindi pa yata yung nasabi ng mga Chinese nationals sa mga DH natin sa HK, pinagsabihan sila nung nagalit ang kanilang amo na, “you are Filipino,and you are our slave”…kysa “Alis diyan”… Sa America, dahil na rin sa kanilang malagim na karanasan sa slavery matagal na, eh malaking kasalanan sa batas ang pag “slave” ng manggagawa…
“After rude treatment from Clinton aide, Binay gets bday greet from US embassy”
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/205753/after-rude-treatment-from-clinton-aide-binay-gets-bday-greet-from-us-embassy
Oh ayan.. bati-bati na…
Bday naman pala eh… Happy Birth Day Mr. Vice President!
Hahahaha!!! OKs lang, mababaw sigurado kaligayahan ni VP pagdating sa US embassy. Aba, mabuti talaga ang nagmamaktol na VP may resulta kaagad. 🙂
RE: i’m not trying to defend no one here, Binay included nor the Clinton staff,… Queen Elene
Ibig sabihin nito…bow lang tayong Pinoy sa kanilang gustong mangyari? Imagine, Pinas ito…at wala sila sa Tate, dapat behave naman sila…VP ng Pinas ang sinigawan niya.
@Balweg: kaya nga nag appplogize nga eh…
Being rude
Shouting an instruction when one can politely say it.
Tweeting a criticism when one can keep it in private.
If Clinton could do employment wonders today, he would have done it in his homeland, not anywhere else. – Chi
He did it before plus plus. Only if the Republican help and stop saying NO to Obama TODAY it may be a different story for the US. At the same token in our country, If our leaders have vision for the country and many of their kind looks for ways to make our country better and strong collectively, instead of dilehensiya, it may be different too for us.
at the same time, our leaders will not cry for respect anymore for it will be given.
@chi,
Apparently she was in charge of screening who goes in in that room. Of course not knowing Binay was her mistake, but her job probably calls for shouting at people when she needs to.
Si Binay, apology lang, sapat na.
Yung nag-insulto (Teves’ camp) kay Freddie Roach, haharapin niya ang mga galit na kamao ni Pacquiao.
Re: ayun.. tama na lahat.. so okay na tayo ha… kaya TAMA na… ~Perl
Ganoon lang…prinsipyo at dignidad ang pinag-uusapan dito, kung nagawa nila sa VP ng Pinas…what do you think sa ating Kapinuyan?
Isip…isip naman, bigyan naman natin ng dignidad ang ating pagiging Pilipino.
Dito sa abroad e trying hard kami to probe sa mga banyagang expats at locals dito sa aming lugar na iba ang Pinoy…kaya naman saludo sila sa diskarte ng karamihan pero di pa rin nawawala yong EWAN nating Kababayan…walang PAKI…sarili lamang ang iniisip sa buhay.
Ganyan ang kalakaran sa Pinas…inaapakan na e ngisi lang at tengang-lipya…remember, di pwedeng magmalaki ang sinuman coz'”nasusulat, HUBAD TAYONG ISINILANG SA MUNDONG IBABAW, at hubad din tayong mamamaalam dito.”
In short, dapat magkaroon tayo ng dignidad at paninindigan sa sarili kahit na tayo e isang purdoy lamang na Mamamayan.
baycas2 – November 12, 2010 2:17 am
Being rude
Shouting an instruction when one can politely say it.
Tweeting a criticism when one can keep it in private.
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Mismo!
olan, sabi ko TODAY.
NFA, masarap na trabaho yan taga-bulyaw. 🙂
@Balweg: kaya nga nag appplogize nga eh…~martinsampaga
Accepted, but next time around dapat magpakatotoo sila sa kanilang sarili…naturingan pa silang 1st world na mamamayan e UGALI-ASAL.
Pwede naman in polite ways na sabihin sa pobre e maninindak pa siya…tutal napag-uusapan lamang ito, e dapat kapulutan na aral ng bawat isa.
Yon lang!
Don’t twist around comment #2; it’s a communication gap. If Binay was identified as VP to Clinton’s staff, there would be no issue. It’s Slick Willy’s safety that was at stake. Patambay tambay si Binay thinking Clinton’s security forces knows him.
Further more, pag nabaril si Bill; the news will be “palpak pala ang security ng secret service, sika na naman ang pinoy at nakalusot sa vip area”.
Wake up!
Wake up!~tru blue
Sleep na ME Igan…hehehe!
Antok na ang Pinoy…well, nangyari na ito so maging lesson na lamang sa bawat isa na dapat ang Pinoy e magkaroon ng dignidad sa sarili.
Di basta-basta binubulyawan o inaapakan…ang langgam nga pag naapakan mo e kukuyugin ka sabay kagat…o kaya snake pag naapakan mo e sabay tuklaw, but tayo namang Pinoy e madali namang magpatawad…basta nag i’m sorry Oks na!
#52 balweg,
mukhang sobrang nasaktan ka talga… sige.. given that situation… ano ngayon proposal mo na dapat gawin ng gobyerno ng Pinas? ng opisina ni VP Binay? at ng pangkaraniwang pinoy?
I may be wrong, ha, pero diba pagkatapos mahuli si Bill Clinton ng ‘I did not have sex with that woman,’ e naghapi birtday din siya ke Mrs. niya o hapi anibersary yata yun? :))
@ Balweg:Ang mga pinoy na nag migrate at di makapag adjust sa Buhay sa America,ay yung mga taong malalakas sa Pilipinas….. Akala nila, kung ano sila kalakas sa pilipinas, ganun din sila sa America, akala nila kung ganun ang asta nila sa Pilipinas, ganun din sa America…hhahahhaha
Di ko ipagyayabang ano ako sa America, pero sa sinabi mo na kung “nagawa ng isa sa VP na Pilipinas, paano na kaya sa ordinaryon pinoy”bwuahahahahha… pag may ugali ka, talagang iwan malayo mararating mo sa pagka galit…hahahahha..
@#60 – ms
Sa mga medyo mamahaling hotel/resto sa atin, when politicians are present, you think they own the place pati na mga servers, walang silang respeto; bulyaw dito at doon. Even mga supervisors at those hotels/restos; puro alipusta ang ginagawa sa mga tauhan nila, walang respeto.
As I always love to say “turn the tables on these unuseful idiots, and they will squeal like pigs”.
#58 Perl,
Simple lamang, isubong kay Clinton NOT kay Tulfo…para mapangaralan sa kanyang UGALI-ASAL…and NOT feeling adelantada…di naman mahirap pagsabihan ang Pinoy except kung naneneyra o nang-aasar na lamang.
Nagkataon na no.2 highest official ng Pinas ang biktima…syiempre maging headline ito,…ngayon na nag sori daw so oks yan, but normally di yan kaagad mawawala sa kukote ng Pinoy ang damage na nangyari…keaksyon lamang ang punto ng usapan…nothing personal!
@#61-tru blue,
marami silang ganyan,pupunta ng america for the 1st time makipag talo pa sa taga TSA sa airport sa America, kasi congressman daw sila sa Pilipinas….eh ang nakakapag boplaks sa kanila, pati mga congressman at senator ng America, dumadaan din pala sa matinding airport inspection tulad ng iba…bwuahahahahhahah
@#62- Balweg,
sabi ko nga mahirap ka na mapa lagay sa ibaba, lalo na pag mataas ka na tulad ni VP mo..imbis umintindi man lang ay hindi na talaga,VP na eh..hehehheheh
hehe, yun naman pala simple lang ang solusyon… at nagawa na naman… kaya oks na… peace na lahat 🙂
#60 ms
Ang reaksyon ng sinuman e bahagi lamang na IN tayo sa mga nangyayari sa ating environment di ba…di ibig sabihin e galit na tayo sa nangyari kundi nais lamang natin bigyan ng diin bakit ginawa o nagawa ang gayong bagay?
Ang langgam nga pag nabulabog ninuman e sure kagat dito kagat doon, tayo pa kayang Pinoy na bulyawan sa harap ng ibang tao…e normal lamang na magreact, except kung manhid o walang paki.
Respeto ang punto dito…at ang pagiging professional sa pakikipagharap sa kanyang kapwa-tao.
#66. Balweg
Naiintindihan ko po balweg, pero punto ko lang naman ipakita din natin ang pagka maintindihin natin…
Naalala mo ba yung nangyari sa Pangulo ng Palau,nung dumalaw sya nung 2007 sa Pilipinas? nung umuwi na sya at nasa aiport, imbis exempted sana sya sa airport security procedure dahil sya ay pangulo ng isang malayang bansa(kahit na mahirap),eh di sya nakilala ng mga taga airport security, may kunting pagtatalo pero siya ay nakipag kumbaba na rin at bumigay din sa gusto ng Filipino Airport security at sila ay makaalis….Pagkatapos ng pangayayari,nung malaman ng NAIA security yung pangyayari,at tinanong yung opisyales ng NAIA kung magbibigay ba daw sila ng Apology…. sagot nila hindi….. kasi di na nila kilala….Mahirap lang na bansa ang palau, at nung bumisita ang kanilang pangulo dito, eh naka commercial flight lang… So ang ginawa ng mga opisyales ng Palau, OK LANG.. KINALIMUTAN NA NILA IYUN….ganun sana tayo balweg.
#67 MS, So ang ginawa ng mga opisyales ng Palau, OK LANG.. KINALIMUTAN NA NILA IYUN….ganun sana tayo balweg.
Di ba yan ang ginawa ni VP Binay…nagpakumbabang lumisan sa VIP room.
Ibig sabihin nito…sa kabila na si VP ang nabulyawan e mag I’M SORRY pa, illogical na ito…nagpaxenxia na nga yong pobre e ano pa gusto nilang gawin ng tao?
But, sa reaksyon ng mga Pinoy na nakaalam sa pangyayari e normal lamang na magsimpatya tayo sa ating Kababayan kasi nga po sino ba ang magmamalasakit sa ating Pinoy kundi ang kapwa-Pinoy except yong mga Makapili o yaong mga EWAN nating Kababayan na walang paki sa kapwa.
Martin has a point. I think Filipinos are just too sensitive.
Pero may phobia na kasi tayo sa mga Kano. Ilang dekada at taon na tayo inaapi? What if it happened to Chinese government that’s not in the best of term with the US at present? May mga bansang tulad ng China at Japan na sobra ang pagkakilala sa kanilang culture at bilang isang bansa. Incidents like this one would not be ignored without a strong reaction. Kanya-kanyang ugali, depende sa bansa at mga mamamayan nila. Tulad na lang sa Thailand, subukan niyo na insultuhin ang kanilang King doon at tignan natin kung makakabalik kayo ng buhay.
#68 balweg,
Akin lang eh mahirap na bansa ang Palau, mas sobrang kahiya hiya iyun kasi talagang sa Airport ng Pilipinas di nakilala ang pangulo mismo ng maliit na bansang Palau,pinilit pa na ipa inspect sa airport imbis exempted naman sana.Nalaman na nga ng taga airport kinabukasan nung nangyari, eh di daw sila magsosory.Hindi saw kasi di nga nila kilala.
Syiempre malakas ang loob nila di mag sorry kasi ano ba naman ang mas mahirap pa sa Pilipinas na bansa, Ang Pala. Di kelangan mag sorry si VP BINAY, kelangan niya lang umintindi, ganun lang,kahit alam nilang mali iyun nagawa ng staff,baka lang din na stress yung staff kaya ganun…
Tandaan mo, pangulo yan. Pangulo ng Palau! at pinadaan pa sa airports security inspection….Dapat nga sa mga taga Palau magalit di ba? May narinig ka bang issue na nag demand sila ng apology? hindi diba? nakipag kumbaba nalang la at para maka uwi….. Kung pangulo mo na siguro iyun, eh sigurado at walang duda, iiyak ka na sa galit…..
Just a few days ago during Pres Obama’s visit to India, there was a photo-shoot that featured Obama and India’s Singh. The Indian protocol-people barred the 8 members of the USA press-corp from entering the room. Obama’s Press Secretary had a verbal argument with the India protocol-people and insisted that the USA press-corp gets into the room, or the entire USA delegation (including Obama) walks out of the room.
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world/gibbs-threatens-to-pull-obama-out-of-meeting-with-indian-pm-singh_100456420.html
If that happened in China, would Gibbs also do the same threat?
@71-tingog boss,
nangyari na rin niyan nung nasa Copenhagen sila….Ayaw ng security ng China na makapasok ang mga American press sa forum ng mga leaders kasama si Obama at ang Chinese President….
to chi at #72: Gibbs did the same thing against Chinese protocol people. Gibbs insisted that the US press-corp accompanying Obama gets into a photo-shoot, or the entire delegation leaves. This was last year, but the setting was Copenhagen.
http://gawker.com/5429825/china-declares-war-on-us-press-obama-bows-to-wen-figuratively
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2010/1108/In-India-Gibbs-risks-life-well-limb-anyway-for-White-House-press-corps
humility is a virtue ang sabi nga ng nanay ko…pero ano ba ang dahilan kung bakit Clinton paid a visit sa atin? I understand he just stayed for a few hours?…oh well iba na nga ang mayamang bansa…
@74- Rose
Hindi bumisita si Bill Clinton bilang isang delegado mula sa gobyerno ng America….di na sya pangulo ngayon, ang tanging US govt. na affiliate sa trip na yun ay ang US secret service lamang bilang security details niya…Private engagement lamang iyon sa Manila Hotel.
“Our common humanity,” such huge meaning Clinton’s lecture attempts to convey and yet some incidents mired the occasion…
Equally offensive, if not more, as Binay’s humiliation is the time when Moshe Dacmeg was being asked to leave (“almost thrown out”) the conference area by an American apparently because of “non-compliance” to dress code.
Dacmeg, a 19-year-old aide of a Kankanaey and administrator of the Baguio-based National Institute of Information Technology (Vladimir Cayabas), wore his traditional G-string attire. He had a prized ticket for the lecture and, in fact, was already allowed entry (though probably in “decent” clothes at first)…only to be asked to get out just because of his “inappropriate” attire!
It’s a good thing professionalism prevailed and Dacmeg’s boss allowed him to put on a shirt so he can be allowed to stay for the lecture:
…little did the American diplomat know that he was almost throwing out an FBI* man!
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*FBI – full-blooded Igorot
May mga bitbit na sariling security ang past presidents ng US. They are guarded just as much as the current one. They do not rely on the local security natin. So, if Binay’s party was not introduced to the security staff of Clinton, walang sasantuhin ang security staff ni Clinton. I bet you too that it was not only Binay who was yelled at but everyone in the room. Siguro din maraming mga alipores si Binay who wanted to go into the VIP room. Ganyan sa atin, sangkatutak na alalay.
Binay is just a few inches than the pandak arroyo and kayumanggi talaga so maybe, Clinton’s staff thought he was just one of the regular guys.
Perhaps the staff suspected Binay was GMA disguised as a man. Or they thought Binay was GMA’s brother.
But as VP relate the incident, the Staff apologized for the misunderstanding and he accepted the apology but why did he, Binay pursued the issue after accepting the Apology? a gentleman would have shaken hands would just move on.
If Binay is so onion skinned, he would have made a big deal when Pnoy hinted that he will not even consider him for the DILG position. Cool naman si Binay. An apology from Clinton’s staff would suffice.
#78. Ay ano ba naman yan, napaka-ironic ang lecture at realidad!
Another good point. Why was Binay complaining to the media if it was not a big deal to him?
Binay might as well focus on investigating the Pag-ibig loan mess implicating Kabayan Noli de Castro. This early, Binay is even saying there’s no evidence to charge Noli. Noli was the Housing Czar then and attended Board meetings that led to the approval of the bad loans.
#81 Vic,
Formality Igan…coz’nga ang incident na ito e ang involve ay leader ng ating bansa. Dapat lamang na ipagbigay alam whoever her boss na wrong ang nagawa ng kanilang staff…so, next time around di na ito maulit pa.
Kasi nga, yaong Sori e personal matter yan but kailangan maisaayos ang protocol sa paghandle ng ganyang isyu…at wala namang masama kung ipagbigay alam ito sa concerned parties di ba.
#84 2b1ask1,
Yeah, it’s a big deal in the sense of mayroong nakawitness sa pangyayari kaya 100% magleak ito sa media…at possibleng mayroong paparazzi to witness the incident.
Off course, kukulitin ngayon si VP ng media…ano ba ng nangyari so dito na siya magbigay ng kanyang side to clarify matters di ba.
Pagkatapos nito, maging headline ito sa media outlets…at mababasa ng Kapinuyan, dito na maglalaro sa kukote ng balana…bakit nangyari ito?
Not knowing na marami e nagkaroon na ng settlement dahil sa nagsori na yong adelintandang staff ni Clinton…after all, di pa yan matatapos na isyu dahil fresh pa sa eyes ng Pinoy.
Ang siste nito e gatungan pa ng media so pagkakakitaan ito…kasi nga big profit ito na sure sasakyan ng marami.
MISMO!
Putang ina nila.
Papuntahin nila dito si Biden, at ako mismo ang mumura, sasabihin ko rin di ko siya kilala.
But this Clinton’s staff (the girl, I mean), you are not shouting at just any VIP, you pussymouth, Binay was a Most Important Person, #2 to be exact. If you didn’t know that, then that’s your problem.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but you, you sucking intern you, abused that privilege.
hahahaha! kaloka mga comments here! an sarap basahin kaya hehehe gaya nito hahaha
sa 711 na lang siguro i-complain hahaha o tama na! baka mag-kapikunan. basta eto na lang isipin naten. TABLA NA! ok?
Philippines vs. Vietnam = Philippines -1
Philippines vs. USA = Philippines +1
O, watch tau what happens in Korea and Japan.
Although mabait si Binay, dapat umalalay si Noy at dineklara agad na persona non grata yung intern, at pinaalis in three hours.
Kung lagi tayong nagtitiimbagang, talagang tatapakan tayo.
And don’t give me no security crap. Walang gustong tumira kay Bill. Mahal ng tao yan, Arabo. Besides, hindi mahilig sa single assassination ang terrorista, kundi mas bombings. Di ba’t si George Bush ay sapatos lang ang inihagis?
#88 Tongue. Apir!!!
#90 atty sax. Agree!
nabasa ba ninyo ang “The Ugly American”? We need not read the book…we know what an “Ugly American” means..nakita na natin ang katotohanan…maputi nga ang karamihan sa kanila pero medio ata maitim ang puso ng ilan…Mabuhay ang Pilipinas…Pilipinas win na win ang sabi nga…
Those who know Binay can say he also fights back. Matapang at palaban din iyan. Not only was he a human rights lawyer, he’s a reserved AFP officer. How many times did we see him demonstrators in Makati? He was calm after being shouted at due to his current position as Vice President. May pinag-aralan naman siya. Ewan ko lang kung nangyari ito kay Jinggoy. Baka nabatukan iyon staff ni Clinton.
Correction: …see him confronting cops and soldiers who tried to stop the demonstrators in Makati.
“But as VP relate the incident, the Staff apologized for the misunderstanding and he accepted the apology but why did he, Binay pursued the issue after accepting the Apology? a gentleman would have shaken hands would just move on.”
– vic
Syempre, para mapagusapan. Parang si Jinggoy, pinapalabas niya na binastos daw siya nang binato sa kanya ang kanyang passport ng HK immigration samantalang ipinakita sa video na kuha sa CCTV na di totoo ang pinagsasabi niya. Ang tawag sa mga yan KSP 😛
I’d rather re-phrase my previous comment:
As expected, most of those who are in america are heavily defending americans, kahit na mali.
?It was Vice President Jojo Binay’s fault that he allowed himself to be shooed away by security aides of former US President Bill Clinton at the Manila Hotel lobby.
He should have stood his ground and told off Clinton’s aides the way then Vice President Erap told off Clinton’s security detail in 1996 during the Apec Summit held in Manila.
When a Clinton aide told Erap not to tail Clinton too closely, Erap blurted out: “I’m the Vice President of this country. Nobody tells me what to do in my country.”
Perhaps Binay was so star-struck with Clinton he had temporary amnesia—he forgot he was the country’s vice president.”
– Ramon Tulfo/ Philippine Daily Inquirer
to mike at #90: “Syempre, para mapagusapan. Parang si Jinggoy, pinapalabas niya na binastos daw siya …… samantalang ipinakita sa video na kuha sa CCTV na di totoo ang pinagsasabi niya. Ang tawag sa mga yan KSP 😛 ”
KSP ba ay kulang sa Panis? 🙄
I imagine the US security brought again sniffing dogs.
Wherever they go, American security throw their weight around. Can’t blame them really.
Someone from Binay’s own staff should have stood up or come forward to tell Clinton’s staffer firmly and defiantly if necessary that she had just shouted at the VP of RP and that it wouldn’t do at all, but not at all! Binay needn’t even have defended himself. Let Clinton’s staffer stammer all the way through…